WEBVTT - 7. In the Shit 0:00:15.036 --> 0:00:26.556 Pushkin. Dark Canyon is a narrow slot canyon that cuts 0:00:26.556 --> 0:00:29.516 a jagged line from the top of Payuma Road down 0:00:29.556 --> 0:00:34.596 toward Montanito. It's choked with poison oak and brush and 0:00:34.676 --> 0:00:38.316 surrounded on three sides by canyon walls at least a 0:00:38.436 --> 0:00:42.956 thousand feet high. The terrain all around it is sunny, 0:00:43.036 --> 0:00:47.516 breezy scrubland, but the canyon itself is cold and dark 0:00:47.796 --> 0:00:53.476 and almost impenetrable. So how did my trees get to 0:00:53.516 --> 0:00:57.476 where she was found in Dark Canyon? Here are some possibilities. 0:00:58.516 --> 0:01:01.956 My trees entered Dark Canyon from the bottom, My trees 0:01:02.116 --> 0:01:05.116 entered Dark Canyon from the top. My trees entered Dark 0:01:05.156 --> 0:01:09.236 Canyon from the Porn ranch. My trees was alone. My 0:01:09.316 --> 0:01:13.916 treees was not alone. My treese was alive, my treece 0:01:14.036 --> 0:01:18.876 was not. If we're going to figure this out, it'll 0:01:18.916 --> 0:01:24.676 be by process of elimination. We tried going up Dark 0:01:24.716 --> 0:01:29.996 Canyon from the bottom a few different times. The remain 0:01:30.076 --> 0:01:32.276 site is not even a mile up from the entry 0:01:32.276 --> 0:01:37.116 point on the Backbone trail, but it is incredibly slow going. 0:01:39.916 --> 0:01:44.396 It's hours of hiking and traversing this stream bed back 0:01:44.436 --> 0:01:46.356 and forth and things to. 0:01:46.316 --> 0:01:51.796 Get up to where she was when I went. It 0:01:51.876 --> 0:01:54.156 was after a winter of heavy rain and the water 0:01:54.236 --> 0:01:54.796 was gushing. 0:01:56.036 --> 0:02:00.596 Even if it was mostly dry in the actual drainage, 0:02:00.676 --> 0:02:04.316 you would be scrambling over boulders and rocks, and you'd 0:02:04.316 --> 0:02:08.676 have to be really motivated to do that, Like, why 0:02:08.716 --> 0:02:09.596 would you do that? 0:02:12.476 --> 0:02:13.436 Let me go that night. 0:02:16.196 --> 0:02:19.676 Hayley, my reporting partner, made another attempt during the dry 0:02:19.756 --> 0:02:22.836 month of July. She bush whacked up the creek bed 0:02:22.876 --> 0:02:25.316 for two and a half hours before hitting a sheer 0:02:25.436 --> 0:02:28.836 rock face, at which point she was forced to turn around. 0:02:32.036 --> 0:02:34.396 We don't think it's likely my teres walked into Dark 0:02:34.436 --> 0:02:38.556 Canyon from the bottom, and if she did, it doesn't 0:02:38.636 --> 0:02:47.196 seem possible that she was alone. I'm Dana Goodyear and 0:02:47.276 --> 0:03:21.596 this is Lost Hills, episode seven in the shit, So 0:03:21.636 --> 0:03:24.836 how else could my trees have gotten into Dark Canyon? 0:03:25.556 --> 0:03:28.076 On Google Maps, it looks like you can access the 0:03:28.116 --> 0:03:31.636 canyon from higher up on Payuma Road. There are trails 0:03:31.636 --> 0:03:35.356 that disappear under a canopy of green brush. We checked 0:03:35.436 --> 0:03:39.316 various turnoffs, sidestepping locked gates and trying to stick to 0:03:39.356 --> 0:03:43.236 public land. One day, we were crashing around in the 0:03:43.236 --> 0:03:47.796 bushes at one of these seeming access points, getting increasingly discouraged. 0:03:47.956 --> 0:03:50.356 When we heard the sound of a radio and a hammer. 0:03:51.236 --> 0:03:53.876 It was a guy in a bandana building a greenhouse. 0:03:54.956 --> 0:03:57.716 My name's Ed. We're up in the hills here in 0:03:57.756 --> 0:04:02.876 the Santa Manca Mountains, and. 0:04:01.156 --> 0:04:02.796 I live in the most beautiful spot in the world. 0:04:03.356 --> 0:04:07.316 And I'm the only one in Malibu who has an undergroundhouse, 0:04:08.236 --> 0:04:10.836 and it's like being in heaven. 0:04:12.516 --> 0:04:14.956 Ed didn't want us to use his last name. He's 0:04:14.956 --> 0:04:17.156 had a few scrapes with the law, and even though 0:04:17.156 --> 0:04:19.636 he's changed his ways, he likes to be under the radar. 0:04:20.676 --> 0:04:23.156 But as it turns out, we're not the first people 0:04:23.196 --> 0:04:27.116 to come around asking about my trees. The Sheriff's department 0:04:27.156 --> 0:04:29.956 had been to see him too, after her remains were found. 0:04:30.596 --> 0:04:33.396 They had information about an access point leading into the 0:04:33.436 --> 0:04:35.236 canyon near his property. 0:04:35.516 --> 0:04:37.836 And then one of them was like grilling me, like, oh, 0:04:37.876 --> 0:04:39.796 what do you And one of the other guys came 0:04:39.876 --> 0:04:41.516 up and said, what do you know about my trees? 0:04:42.156 --> 0:04:44.516 I was thinking, maybe you guys should tell me what 0:04:44.596 --> 0:04:47.236 you know about her, you know, but I didn't. There 0:04:47.276 --> 0:04:48.396 was nothing I could really say. 0:04:49.476 --> 0:04:52.436 Ed takes us into his underground house. We follow him 0:04:52.436 --> 0:04:54.916 through a curtain of camo netting and down a ramp 0:04:54.956 --> 0:04:56.116 to a heavy wooden. 0:04:55.836 --> 0:05:01.436 Door and we're inside. We got the fridge over here. Oh. 0:05:01.476 --> 0:05:04.676 This in the interior is thirty two feet by sixteen 0:05:04.716 --> 0:05:08.916 feet on the inside eight feet tall, and there's a 0:05:09.156 --> 0:05:11.436 I use wood beams, just purely ornamental. 0:05:12.196 --> 0:05:16.116 It's dimly lit and crammed with slimy terrariums holding rare 0:05:16.156 --> 0:05:22.316 botanical specimens, carnivorous plants, miniature bogonias, mosses. He sells them 0:05:22.316 --> 0:05:26.516 on eBay, along with some fancy millipedes he calls pink dragons. 0:05:27.636 --> 0:05:29.836 And then I'm selling this pogonias and this is super rare. 0:05:29.876 --> 0:05:36.996 This one. It's a grass pogonia from Madagascar, Pogonia bognariai, 0:05:38.236 --> 0:05:40.756 and it's pretty spectacular. 0:05:41.956 --> 0:05:45.036 Before he was growing bogonias, he was a marijuana farmer. 0:05:45.996 --> 0:05:47.796 I've been through the whole all the wars. I've been 0:05:47.876 --> 0:05:51.036 arrested bunch of times and almost done a bunch of 0:05:51.076 --> 0:05:54.196 time in prison, and the whole thing. 0:05:55.076 --> 0:05:57.316 Ed says he used to grow in Dark Canyon. 0:05:58.116 --> 0:05:58.836 Yeah, it's going. 0:05:58.716 --> 0:06:01.436 Back to from two thousand and one to about two 0:06:01.476 --> 0:06:04.796 thousand and four, and they were about three hundred plants. 0:06:04.836 --> 0:06:06.356 Here three hundred plants. 0:06:06.436 --> 0:06:12.156 Yeah, back before legals, this area was riddled with illegal grows, 0:06:12.716 --> 0:06:17.676 some amateur operations, others run by drug cartels. Ed says 0:06:17.916 --> 0:06:19.996 Dark Canyon was a great place to grow weed. 0:06:20.916 --> 0:06:22.676 The plants were so big. You know, there was this 0:06:22.716 --> 0:06:25.556 one spot I was telling you about called Queen's where 0:06:25.596 --> 0:06:28.156 the plants were like, you know, twelve feet tall. Well, 0:06:28.156 --> 0:06:30.996 once it gets above that, now you're exposed. Now you 0:06:30.996 --> 0:06:32.476 have a problem. 0:06:32.956 --> 0:06:34.916 One day Ed's grow got spotted. 0:06:35.876 --> 0:06:38.756 There was a helicopter that flew over and they flew 0:06:38.796 --> 0:06:40.916 over here, and they went into Dark Canyon and they 0:06:40.956 --> 0:06:44.356 circled around, but kind of far away, and I go, 0:06:45.196 --> 0:06:47.596 did they see because they flew right over the plant. 0:06:47.676 --> 0:06:50.236 I go, I think they did, but I wasn't sure. 0:06:50.316 --> 0:06:51.956 But they were sneaky about it because they didn't just 0:06:51.956 --> 0:06:55.196 circle directly overhead. And so about two weeks later, I 0:06:55.196 --> 0:06:57.516 harvested everything. I did, the whole thing. Three hundred plants 0:06:57.556 --> 0:07:00.076 was a huge amount. Then all of a sudden, I'm 0:07:00.116 --> 0:07:02.356 sitting here, I'm doing something, and all of a sudden, 0:07:02.396 --> 0:07:06.676 the helicopters and they're ten feet above the ground and 0:07:06.716 --> 0:07:08.596 they're sitting right on top of me, and I run 0:07:08.636 --> 0:07:11.196 down into that. I had this whole tunnel area underneath 0:07:11.196 --> 0:07:14.036 the shrubs, like a like a trail that was underneath, 0:07:14.036 --> 0:07:17.036 so it was like a tunnel. And so I went, 0:07:17.076 --> 0:07:20.716 I went running down into there, and these guys were 0:07:20.876 --> 0:07:24.316 like ten feet above the you know. At one time, 0:07:24.356 --> 0:07:26.996 I could actually I was in this little crevice area. 0:07:27.156 --> 0:07:30.036 I could actually feel the rotor wash like this, like 0:07:30.116 --> 0:07:32.956 fifty mile an hour wind just blowing through this little 0:07:33.196 --> 0:07:35.716 dry canyon that I was in, you know, under the brush. 0:07:35.836 --> 0:07:37.676 And I'm telling you it was it was live. It 0:07:37.716 --> 0:07:38.316 was intense. 0:07:40.316 --> 0:07:42.636 Ed says that twenty years ago, a friend of his 0:07:42.956 --> 0:07:45.916 hiking deep into Dark Canyon had come across a big 0:07:45.956 --> 0:07:49.716 industrial pot. Grow Ed thinks if his friend got down there, 0:07:49.836 --> 0:07:52.836 maybe we can too. He warns us, We're gonna have 0:07:52.876 --> 0:07:56.116 to do a little bushwhacking. We check our watches. It's 0:07:56.116 --> 0:07:59.396 eleven am. Do you want to do more torn or 0:07:59.436 --> 0:08:01.196 you want to go down get get hiking. 0:08:01.636 --> 0:08:04.956 Yeah, maybe let's let's go back to your car and olds. 0:08:04.436 --> 0:08:06.716 Yeah, we'll get my heat and then we can come 0:08:06.756 --> 0:08:08.996 back and talk. Yeah, let's get let's get let's get on. 0:08:09.036 --> 0:08:10.316 The Yeah, I like it. 0:08:11.036 --> 0:08:12.996 We go over the lip of the canyon into the 0:08:13.036 --> 0:08:18.236 dense brush. Head's in front, clipping. We're behind him, crawling 0:08:18.236 --> 0:08:19.276 on our hands and knees. 0:08:23.916 --> 0:08:25.556 Yeah, you made a good path here. 0:08:26.316 --> 0:08:26.636 I hope. 0:08:26.716 --> 0:08:31.796 So you want to get one of those cloudy trails. 0:08:31.796 --> 0:08:37.756 If you can't, we pick our way along a ridge, 0:08:37.876 --> 0:08:41.076 then drop into the creek bed. It's filled with massive 0:08:41.116 --> 0:08:45.716 boulders and six foot tall saplings. There's poison oak everywhere. 0:08:48.156 --> 0:08:48.596 How long. 0:08:50.076 --> 0:08:53.156 I think we've been hiking for two hours? But hike 0:08:54.076 --> 0:08:55.556 it crawling, That's what. 0:08:55.516 --> 0:08:59.956 I would call it, too, Crawling, sliding on our butts. 0:09:00.756 --> 0:09:03.876 Haley keeps checking the GPS app on her phone, which 0:09:03.916 --> 0:09:06.956 is loaded with the coordinates of the remain site. The 0:09:06.996 --> 0:09:10.996 little arrow representing our position is still ridiculously far away. 0:09:12.036 --> 0:09:14.436 We press on, but it's starting to seem like we 0:09:14.556 --> 0:09:18.076 might never get there. Ed's been saying just two hundred 0:09:18.076 --> 0:09:20.516 more yards for what feels like hours. 0:09:21.636 --> 0:09:22.996 I also, I could say, no one's been here for 0:09:23.036 --> 0:09:25.556 real life. That's I've never even been this far down myself, 0:09:25.636 --> 0:09:28.796 So probably no one's been here in thirty forty years 0:09:28.836 --> 0:09:30.996 at least, maybe even longer. 0:09:32.796 --> 0:09:36.276 By now, the canyon is engulfed in shadow. It's two 0:09:36.356 --> 0:09:39.196 thirty less than three hours till the sun goes down. 0:09:39.956 --> 0:09:41.996 We're not going to make it to the remain spot, 0:09:42.356 --> 0:09:46.476 not even close. We have to turn around. We haul 0:09:46.516 --> 0:09:48.516 ourselves out of the creek bed and up to where 0:09:48.516 --> 0:09:51.156 we have a vantage point. I can see the porn 0:09:51.196 --> 0:09:55.356 ranch through my binoculars. Everything between here and there is 0:09:55.436 --> 0:09:59.316 trackless wilderness. How would you describe that terrado on there? 0:09:59.396 --> 0:10:03.316 Oh you're in Shia, Yeah, you're in living hell. 0:10:05.076 --> 0:10:07.116 Bed pulls out a loaf of bread and takes a 0:10:07.116 --> 0:10:07.996 few bites you. 0:10:07.996 --> 0:10:10.236 Itself is another three So it's about an eight hundred 0:10:10.276 --> 0:10:14.236 foot canyon in there. It's very very intense. I have 0:10:14.396 --> 0:10:16.796 been down in there, and I'm telling you it's you 0:10:16.836 --> 0:10:19.876 feel like a little teeny tiny bug down there. You 0:10:19.956 --> 0:10:23.076 look up at this massive cliff, you know, and yes, 0:10:23.116 --> 0:10:26.356 the earth, Yes, the Earth's crust has been lifted up 0:10:26.476 --> 0:10:28.196 out of the ground and you've just seen the side 0:10:28.196 --> 0:10:30.276 of the earth. So it's just spectacular. 0:10:31.756 --> 0:10:34.636 I don't remember if we actually got around to saying 0:10:34.636 --> 0:10:37.716 at our turnaround point that I mean, we've been going 0:10:37.756 --> 0:10:40.756 for two hours and we were like a fifth of 0:10:41.076 --> 0:10:44.756 the way that we needed more than two hours to 0:10:44.796 --> 0:10:49.196 where my trees remains worse. So there's just no way 0:10:49.356 --> 0:10:51.156 on earth she hiked in from the top. 0:10:51.556 --> 0:10:55.516 There's there's no way on earth. There's no way on 0:10:55.556 --> 0:10:58.316 earth that somebody brought her body in from the top. 0:10:58.596 --> 0:11:00.596 No, there's no way, no, no, it's impossible. 0:11:02.036 --> 0:11:04.156 He finishes as bread and we drink the rest of 0:11:04.156 --> 0:11:06.956 our water. It takes us another couple of hours to 0:11:06.956 --> 0:11:09.836 get back to Ed's place, beat her way out of 0:11:09.836 --> 0:11:12.556 the brush, just as the sun slips below the horizon. 0:11:15.876 --> 0:11:18.436 So did my tree center dark canyon from the bottom? 0:11:19.076 --> 0:11:23.636 Probably not. Did you go down from the top? No way, 0:11:24.076 --> 0:11:28.316 But we do know there's another way in through the 0:11:28.396 --> 0:11:45.076 porn ranch. Sues Randall, aka the porn Queen of Montanito, 0:11:45.116 --> 0:11:48.796 lives in a big, white Spanish style house surrounded by 0:11:48.836 --> 0:11:54.036 horse corrals and stables. She's in her seventies, feisty and petite, 0:11:54.116 --> 0:11:55.556 with white pixie cut hair. 0:11:56.196 --> 0:11:59.076 We are the upper class. Some men come on, Oh, 0:11:59.116 --> 0:12:01.916 we started upper class and worked our way slowly down. 0:12:03.556 --> 0:12:07.676 But with an English accent you can get away with Filth. 0:12:09.316 --> 0:12:11.796 Had a huge career as a photographer of high end 0:12:11.876 --> 0:12:16.036 adult content. Back in her heyday, porn was classy by 0:12:16.076 --> 0:12:19.676 comparison to what's out there today, I think lush highly 0:12:19.716 --> 0:12:22.836 produced images of Stormy Daniels in a lacy white bra 0:12:23.156 --> 0:12:26.156 beside a donkey. But Sus is retired now. 0:12:27.196 --> 0:12:28.956 I got kicked in the face by one of my 0:12:28.996 --> 0:12:31.756 horses in lust and I so that was a good excuse. 0:12:32.396 --> 0:12:35.436 But also when we shoot, we'd spent two or three 0:12:35.516 --> 0:12:38.316 days getting ready. I'm going I'm not going to go 0:12:38.396 --> 0:12:40.916 and just shoot. You know, it's going to be prepared 0:12:41.276 --> 0:12:46.196 allah Playboy kind of drapie pape, all that crappy whapye. 0:12:47.036 --> 0:12:50.836 Sus came to America in the seventies courtesy of Hugh Hefner, 0:12:51.116 --> 0:12:55.436 who hired her as a photographer at Playboy and then 0:12:55.796 --> 0:12:59.956 later at Hustler. She shot herself using a cable release 0:13:00.036 --> 0:13:00.636 and a mirror. 0:13:01.436 --> 0:13:03.876 Male photographers wanted to shoot me. Oh no, no, no, 0:13:03.956 --> 0:13:07.396 I'll shoot myself. It's much more relaxing instead of having 0:13:07.436 --> 0:13:10.876 to do what some guy tells you. You get stiff 0:13:10.916 --> 0:13:15.636 and your shoulders raised, and you like this. It's like dancing. 0:13:15.676 --> 0:13:18.876 You've got to be on a flow. It was. 0:13:19.956 --> 0:13:20.476 It was cool. 0:13:20.516 --> 0:13:22.436 I'm glad I did it because I certainly don't look 0:13:22.476 --> 0:13:23.076 like that now. 0:13:24.356 --> 0:13:28.156 At the dawn of internet porn, sus became a business tycoon, 0:13:28.676 --> 0:13:31.316 minting money on her site sus dot. 0:13:31.236 --> 0:13:34.756 Net, instead of being lockstock and boo. You know, I 0:13:34.836 --> 0:13:36.756 would do what I wanted to do. I would go 0:13:36.796 --> 0:13:40.116 and party with them and then do what I wanted 0:13:40.116 --> 0:13:43.196 to do, and they'd get mad, and I'd say up yours, 0:13:43.316 --> 0:13:45.716 and I'd get fired, and then I'd go work for 0:13:45.796 --> 0:13:50.316 somebody else, and then the same thing hefna Flint. I 0:13:50.476 --> 0:13:53.916 fought with all of them, but it meant that I 0:13:54.036 --> 0:13:59.236 ended up shooting for myself independently and owning all my pictures, 0:14:00.036 --> 0:14:02.156 so that when the Internet came, I was the only 0:14:02.196 --> 0:14:04.556 photographer who owned her own pictures. 0:14:05.836 --> 0:14:08.636 Susan's house is up the hill from Montanito, at the 0:14:08.716 --> 0:14:09.956 end of a long driveway. 0:14:10.836 --> 0:14:13.276 Oh, the history of this house is quite interesting. It's 0:14:13.356 --> 0:14:16.356 been here since like the forties. Has been ranches here, 0:14:16.956 --> 0:14:19.876 and Bishop Raley had a chapel down there for the 0:14:19.956 --> 0:14:24.276 Church of Antioch, and this house in the seventies burnt down, 0:14:24.676 --> 0:14:29.436 and the guy who owned it rebuilt it, and he 0:14:29.676 --> 0:14:32.716 did all these arches and everything, but he rebuilt it 0:14:32.756 --> 0:14:36.196 around the bar so he could party with lee ages 0:14:37.596 --> 0:14:40.476 and then they got so drunk he'd be sober an 0:14:40.516 --> 0:14:45.636 hour a day. So he lost the ranch. But he 0:14:45.756 --> 0:14:47.916 was up here drunk with a gun, and nobody come 0:14:47.916 --> 0:14:50.116 and see him except I used to ride up on 0:14:50.156 --> 0:14:51.596 my horse and chit chat him up. 0:14:52.476 --> 0:14:55.956 Because you had designs on this property. 0:14:54.996 --> 0:14:57.156 And he knew I wanted it. It took three years, 0:14:57.236 --> 0:14:58.876 and he knew I'd look after it. 0:14:59.596 --> 0:15:02.596 She says. Montanito was a great place to ride horses 0:15:02.716 --> 0:15:03.516 and raise a family. 0:15:04.356 --> 0:15:06.796 We moved to this area because we were looking for 0:15:06.836 --> 0:15:10.196 a good school district for the kids. Kids do that 0:15:10.236 --> 0:15:14.356 for you. Your life revolves around them. I mean work 0:15:14.476 --> 0:15:17.516 was work, but it was not our social life. There's 0:15:17.516 --> 0:15:19.996 nothing more boring than a bunch of pornographers, I'll tell you. 0:15:20.756 --> 0:15:24.316 But the ranch was also the perfect porn location, first 0:15:24.356 --> 0:15:27.236 for Sues and then for her daughter, Holly, who followed 0:15:27.276 --> 0:15:28.396 her mom into the business. 0:15:29.556 --> 0:15:31.556 I grew up in what I like to say, kind 0:15:31.596 --> 0:15:34.596 of the Sue's bubble. Everything that we shot was very beautiful, 0:15:34.716 --> 0:15:35.396 very high end. 0:15:35.796 --> 0:15:38.556 Holly has occasionally used the ranch for shoots as well, 0:15:38.756 --> 0:15:40.396 though it's been years at this point. 0:15:40.836 --> 0:15:43.316 It's a great property. I mean it's big, it's lots 0:15:43.316 --> 0:15:46.036 of parking, there's lots of different areas to shoot. 0:15:46.076 --> 0:15:48.436 It's super private, yeah, but you don't. 0:15:48.236 --> 0:15:52.396 Get them screaming through the gullies. You don't get echoing. 0:15:53.676 --> 0:15:55.916 Holly said that one time a shoot of hers had 0:15:55.916 --> 0:15:58.556 been interrupted by a pop bust in Dark Canyon. 0:15:59.756 --> 0:16:04.676 We had a huge, like illegal weed patch up the 0:16:04.756 --> 0:16:09.796 canyon and I was actually shooting when they were harvey it. Well, 0:16:09.796 --> 0:16:12.596 when I say harvesting it, when they were possessing it. 0:16:12.676 --> 0:16:12.836 You know. 0:16:12.876 --> 0:16:16.476 The police had come and they these police helicopters and 0:16:16.516 --> 0:16:18.756 they had all this weed that they put in these 0:16:18.836 --> 0:16:22.916 huge nets and then the airlifted it directly over our ranch. 0:16:22.956 --> 0:16:25.396 And I just remember being here and my whole crew 0:16:25.516 --> 0:16:27.356 was here and the models were like, I hope they 0:16:27.476 --> 0:16:31.556 drop some so yeah, but that was the only like 0:16:31.676 --> 0:16:33.516 big weed bus that we saw. 0:16:34.876 --> 0:16:38.396 And they got to it from Upper Payuma and we didn't 0:16:38.396 --> 0:16:41.196 even know. We never saw anybody going down then until 0:16:41.276 --> 0:16:45.036 still the cops turned up. We didn't know, otherwise we'd 0:16:45.036 --> 0:16:46.476 have been up there taking. 0:16:46.156 --> 0:16:49.556 Some SU's agreed to give me a tour of the property. 0:16:49.916 --> 0:16:51.876 We got in a quad and she drove me around. 0:16:53.476 --> 0:16:56.396 I asked her about my trees. She told me that 0:16:56.436 --> 0:16:59.596 when she learned of my Teresa's disappearance. She organized a 0:16:59.636 --> 0:17:00.316 search party. 0:17:02.436 --> 0:17:04.996 I mean, we spent days looking for her on horseback 0:17:04.996 --> 0:17:07.596 when she went missing, riding these things. 0:17:08.236 --> 0:17:11.796 And then but then people started to speculate that Sus 0:17:11.916 --> 0:17:15.276 might somehow be involved in my Teresa's death. My Terce 0:17:15.396 --> 0:17:17.796 was young and beautiful, and her body was found on 0:17:17.876 --> 0:17:22.236 public land bordering SUS's ranch. That would obviously make for 0:17:22.276 --> 0:17:25.636 a compelling narrative. But like so many elements of the 0:17:25.676 --> 0:17:28.276 my Teres Richardson story that have taken hold in the 0:17:28.276 --> 0:17:32.236 public imagination, I've seen no evidence to support this theory, 0:17:32.836 --> 0:17:33.716 none whatsoever. 0:17:35.356 --> 0:17:38.596 Yeah, people were accusing me of having done s and 0:17:38.756 --> 0:17:39.996 m or something unmurdered. 0:17:40.516 --> 0:17:41.676 Sorry, yeah, I just don't want. 0:17:41.516 --> 0:17:46.356 To go there. That's bullshit. Come on, Yeah, if I'm 0:17:46.356 --> 0:17:48.396 going to murder anybody, it's going to be a cop. 0:17:59.436 --> 0:18:02.356 We drove up SUS's driveway and stopped the quad at 0:18:02.396 --> 0:18:06.396 an overlook at the edge of Dark Canyon. It was 0:18:06.436 --> 0:18:10.196 a sheer drop to the creek bed. My Teresa's remains 0:18:10.196 --> 0:18:12.836 were found down there and about a quarter mile east 0:18:12.916 --> 0:18:13.636 of where we stood. 0:18:15.316 --> 0:18:23.316 I'll call it Matries Canyon just to myself, but I'm 0:18:23.316 --> 0:18:33.236 really trying to. 0:18:28.636 --> 0:18:31.916 The twenty twelve report from the Office of Independent Review 0:18:32.116 --> 0:18:35.036 included only a few details about the discovery of my 0:18:35.116 --> 0:18:39.036 Teresa's remains. One of these details was that the rangers 0:18:39.036 --> 0:18:42.676 had hiked into the site from quote, a property located 0:18:42.716 --> 0:18:48.196 on Payuma Road that would be SUS's property, the Porn Ranch. 0:18:49.276 --> 0:18:52.556 The report also said that after Malibu Search and Rescue 0:18:52.556 --> 0:18:56.436 and the homicide detectives arrived by helicopter, the rangers hiked 0:18:56.476 --> 0:19:00.076 out the way they'd come in. The report notes that 0:19:00.116 --> 0:19:01.756 it took them about a half an hour to get 0:19:01.796 --> 0:19:04.916 back to their starting point at the Porn Ranch. So, 0:19:05.316 --> 0:19:09.116 according to official documents, there's a way in from SUS's life. 0:19:11.236 --> 0:19:14.276 Sue's is extremely private and she takes the security of 0:19:14.276 --> 0:19:17.516 her property very seriously. There are big dogs and the 0:19:17.556 --> 0:19:21.556 place is crawling with groundskeepers. That means you can't just 0:19:21.636 --> 0:19:24.476 show up there and knock on the door. It literally 0:19:24.516 --> 0:19:26.676 took years to convince her to let Haley and me 0:19:26.836 --> 0:19:30.196 come back and poke around a bit. We were hopeful 0:19:30.276 --> 0:19:33.116 that we could find that elusive trail, the one used 0:19:33.116 --> 0:19:35.316 by the rangers that would take us to the remain 0:19:35.396 --> 0:19:41.676 site in half an hour. Sue's had arranged for a chaperone. 0:19:40.396 --> 0:19:43.156 Travis local guide, Montonita resident. 0:19:43.556 --> 0:19:46.476 Travis shows us the staging area that was used by 0:19:46.596 --> 0:19:49.716 law enforcement during the recovery of my Teresa's remains. 0:19:50.196 --> 0:19:52.916 Yeah, I mean, it's a really short little cut across here, 0:19:53.276 --> 0:19:56.996 but I think honestly that they probably entered down there. 0:19:57.516 --> 0:19:59.756 I don't know where she entered, but that's definitely where 0:19:59.756 --> 0:20:00.396 the police entered. 0:20:01.236 --> 0:20:04.596 We start walking through thick green grasses on a narrow 0:20:04.676 --> 0:20:08.956 horse trail that quickly turns into an even narrower game trail. 0:20:10.436 --> 0:20:15.076 But yeah, this whole area hasn't for in a long time. 0:20:15.116 --> 0:20:17.756 The flight's overgrown so beautiful. 0:20:20.996 --> 0:20:22.276 Love that safe smell too. 0:20:22.556 --> 0:20:25.316 It's the ball into a game trail because nobody really 0:20:25.316 --> 0:20:28.916 goes this way anymore. But yeah, it's just deer, deer 0:20:28.956 --> 0:20:31.596 and deer and coyotes, probably mountain lines. 0:20:33.596 --> 0:20:36.516 I can tell. We're somewhere above the creek bed. I'm 0:20:36.556 --> 0:20:39.876 thinking this is the shortcut we've been looking for, and 0:20:39.956 --> 0:20:43.196 I can't help it. I'm getting really excited. It's where 0:20:43.236 --> 0:20:46.556 we go from here. Down here go where the coyotes go. 0:20:46.876 --> 0:20:50.276 We get down low, limboing under a tangle of branches. 0:20:51.796 --> 0:20:54.076 You know, this is kind of like the tree because 0:20:54.076 --> 0:20:56.156 it looks stable, but it'll actually just break. So watch 0:20:56.196 --> 0:21:01.396 over the scene and DESI it's probably has it overgrown. 0:21:02.596 --> 0:21:08.676 Yeah, oh yeah, there is a trail down here. But then, 0:21:09.236 --> 0:21:14.036 to our indescribable disappointment, we find ourselves on the backbone trail, 0:21:14.436 --> 0:21:16.596 a few yards from the point of which you turn 0:21:16.716 --> 0:21:19.716 up into the creek bed, the place We've been so 0:21:19.836 --> 0:21:25.156 many times before. I feel like I'm being pranked. We 0:21:25.316 --> 0:21:28.396 convince Travis to take us back to the overlook, the 0:21:28.436 --> 0:21:32.436 place Sus calls my Trees Canyon. In the years since 0:21:32.436 --> 0:21:35.436 I was last there, I've tried many times to picture 0:21:35.476 --> 0:21:39.516 it precisely to test mentally. Anyway, if there could be 0:21:39.556 --> 0:21:42.916 a hidden trail, it would be the most direct route in. 0:21:43.956 --> 0:21:46.356 And another thing is you wouldn't have to walk up 0:21:46.396 --> 0:21:49.956 SUS's driveway to get there. There's a fire road with 0:21:50.036 --> 0:21:53.436 an outlet higher up on Payuma Road that leads right 0:21:53.516 --> 0:21:58.036 to the overlook. It's gated and probably guarded, but still 0:21:58.876 --> 0:22:01.556 someone could have slipped through there in the dead of night. 0:22:05.196 --> 0:22:07.396 Back at the staging area, we get in the quad 0:22:07.476 --> 0:22:08.556 and head to the overlook. 0:22:11.436 --> 0:22:14.556 Okay, so the fire road entrance is over there. Yep, 0:22:14.636 --> 0:22:17.836 this is the road coming down. That's the start of 0:22:17.836 --> 0:22:18.316 the canyon. 0:22:18.996 --> 0:22:21.956 We're standing by a wooden horse fence looking down over 0:22:21.996 --> 0:22:23.596 a precipice into the canyon. 0:22:25.116 --> 0:22:28.636 It's a sheer drop off. That's probably i'd take close 0:22:28.636 --> 0:22:31.196 to three hundred feet I mean to the to the 0:22:31.236 --> 0:22:32.916 base of the creek, which you can kind of see. 0:22:32.996 --> 0:22:35.276 I mean, I don't even know that could even be 0:22:35.276 --> 0:22:40.556 four stories high. And then from the GPS, I'm guessing 0:22:40.636 --> 0:22:45.396 she's probably about a quarter mile that way, so we're 0:22:45.436 --> 0:22:48.636 not even i mean, let's say about we're probably about 0:22:48.636 --> 0:22:50.236 a two thirds of the way in to where she 0:22:50.276 --> 0:22:50.676 would be. 0:22:51.356 --> 0:22:54.436 So you'd have to drop down four stories and then 0:22:54.956 --> 0:22:58.116 hike up a quarter mile to get back in there. 0:22:59.196 --> 0:23:02.596 It would take a very very skilled bushwhacking guide to 0:23:02.636 --> 0:23:05.596 get back in there, because it's impassible, and there's so 0:23:05.636 --> 0:23:08.596 much poison oak down there, and it's mature poison oak, 0:23:08.676 --> 0:23:10.876 so you can't really even bushwhack it. You just got 0:23:10.876 --> 0:23:14.956 to go through it. And that's what the amount of 0:23:15.036 --> 0:23:16.596 search and rescue said, and that's why the reason the 0:23:16.636 --> 0:23:19.116 helicopter to get back in there, because it's it's impassable. 0:23:20.276 --> 0:23:23.356 We stand there quietly, just looking out over the Canyon 0:23:23.516 --> 0:23:25.116 with its dozen shades of green. 0:23:28.636 --> 0:23:34.276 Everything in Montanedo proper is pretty rustic and kind of 0:23:34.316 --> 0:23:36.236 just you know, it's unrefined. I think that that most 0:23:36.236 --> 0:23:38.396 of these mountain communities back in the Santa Monica Mountains 0:23:38.396 --> 0:23:42.996 are people like, you know, living kind of you know, rustically. 0:23:43.036 --> 0:23:46.876 But you know, you can go into Calabasas and hang 0:23:46.916 --> 0:23:49.476 out with Kanye and the Kardashians if you want, because 0:23:49.476 --> 0:23:53.836 this is technically Calabasas, but this ain't Calabasas. You know, 0:23:53.956 --> 0:23:58.236