1 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Good morning, good as, good evening, good night. 2 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: No, we're not started like that. 3 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 3: Let's go, let's do this the right way. 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 4: Would good be hoping to point in our. 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 5: Hold on, hold up, it's a boy d J E 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 5: F Ben and this is. 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 4: We are intro doesn't include making. 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 6: Noise, which that's why it sucks. 9 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 4: He comes home with a catchphrase. 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: Why why does it have to be abuse? 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: Right away? Your cute in We're done, We're done. 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: We're done, all right, listen outside the sounds on Peter 13 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Rosenberg and we're from one of his life, the first 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: ever hip hop podcast ever ever. 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: First ever, first. 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 6: But we're joined by the most successful hip hop podcast 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 6: success right and DJA. 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: And we're also. 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 6: Joined by an incredible cast of legends to celebrate hip 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 6: hop fifty Yeah. We got newcomers who are going to 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 6: be legends. We have absolute icons in our miss yeah. 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 4: This is a crazy collection again, this is wild right here. 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 7: We got pioneers, we got people doing it right now. 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: The game hasn't stopped. 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: Fifty years old right now, fifty years old. We're calling 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: this fifty SIPs, ladies and gentlemen, because we're getting drunk. 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, toast today yeah, so toasted hip hop. 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: Who's crazy idea was this panel? 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: It's a great idea, want conglomerations energy? 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 9: Was it the monster go in the boardroom and say, 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 9: let's just do some fucking crazy shit. 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: That's how. 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 9: It's like, just put everybody together, like from every generation. 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 9: And who's whose idea was? I thought he was going 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 9: to claim it? 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: Rosenberg. 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 6: No, I'm happy to claim it, but I would be 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 6: utterly lying. Now this is super exciting. If I can 39 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 6: you announce the man sitting next to you plans this 40 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 6: is crazy man. 41 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 5: Leg Grandmaster kas is not mean, it's like hip hop 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 5: is officially here. 43 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 6: If grand Masters in the bills back, I mean you 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 6: the only one. 45 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 10: That was fifty years Yeah, you're really the only one. 46 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: You look fantastic. What about introducers next year? 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: I mean, guys, we're talking about the. 48 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 6: Original female MC a B girl going back to nineteen 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 6: seventy six. 50 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: Shut up. 51 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 11: But also let me add that to you. 52 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 12: Nineteen seventy seven, I became the first female MC of 53 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 12: hip hop culture before records before nineteen seventy nine. 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 3: Wow. 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: Wow, yes, wow, that's my sister. 56 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 13: We on Rock and Bells Radio Monday through Product. 57 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's right every single day. 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 6: And let me just start before we get to all 59 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 6: these other introductions. I do want to start with you, guys, 60 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 6: the ogs, the true og is here. How has hip 61 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 6: Hop fifty been treated you so far? Have you been 62 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 6: enjoying the celebration most definitely. 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 13: We've been on radio for about almost two years now, 64 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 13: and so we chronologically go over the history of the 65 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 13: culture on a regular since we've been on the radio. 66 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 13: That's what our show is about. And this year has 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 13: been amazing. I mean, we saw it coming, you know, 68 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 13: we talked about it, but actually when it came in, 69 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 13: everything came to fruition and it's like, you know, we 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 13: just hope that. 71 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: It continues in year fifty one. 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 13: Like we talked about earlier, this is important. This is 73 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 13: a milestone, and this is going to be our first 74 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 13: fiftieth and our last fiftieth. 75 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 11: We're going to be around here for the next one. 76 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: So it's extra special to us. 77 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 12: My thing, Yeah, my thing is that, And this is 78 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 12: what I want everybody to understand when we're. 79 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 11: Talking about the fiftieth. 80 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 12: In the version of hip hop culture, there is no 81 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 12: way that we are supposed to be just celebrating the 82 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 12: rap aspect of hip hop. 83 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 11: Culture, the culture and all. 84 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 12: A satus of hip hop coaching and all the elements 85 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 12: is the DJ, the B girl, the B boy, the 86 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 12: graffiti artist. You know what I'm saying, the MC, we 87 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 12: are supposed to be celebrating. And for everybody that's watching 88 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 12: the show right now, if you're not celebrating all of 89 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 12: those aspects, you are not representing hip hop culture to 90 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 12: its fullest. 91 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 11: You're not. You're not. 92 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: These guys came with an agenda. 93 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: This is no no, This is something no no. 94 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 11: This is something that I preach you all the time. 95 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 11: This is something that I preach all the time. 96 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 12: And my thing is that you don't have to be 97 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 12: out there B girl and B boying, you know, but 98 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 12: the DJ, the MC, We'll all celebrate. These are what 99 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 12: accomplished what hip hop is. These are the elements that 100 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 12: it's called hip hop from the time that Keith Cowboys 101 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 12: first coined the name Keith hip hop culture. 102 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 11: This is what hip hop is about. 103 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 12: And so when you hear you know, the status and 104 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 12: you hear some people you know saying ho, you're saying yes, yes, sir, 105 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 12: you got to know where that came from. You got 106 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 12: to understand the history behind it, So there's no gender there. 107 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 12: It's just the history of the culture that we're celebrating 108 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 12: fifty years of hip hop and you gotta know what 109 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 12: that means, and it tells bottom line. 110 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: Blake makes a noise for that, and it's funny to 111 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: say that because I feel, you know, like you said, 112 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: the four elements DJing, graffiti, MC, and then Breaking, and they. 113 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 11: Added knowledge be boxing, but that came later. 114 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 12: But those are the four core elements that encompass what hip. 115 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: Hop is and I feel Breaking sometimes gets treated lesser 116 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: on the on the totem pole. So we got a 117 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: B Boy legend, b Boy Moy in the building who's 118 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: who's had been part of taking Breaking to the Olympics. 119 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: So bro, come on, yo, man. 120 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 14: First off, I just want to say it's an honor 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 14: and a blessing to be surrounded by legends in the game. 122 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 14: You know, I started Breaking ninety five, but to be 123 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 14: surrounded by so much history, I mean, honestly, I get chills, 124 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 14: you know, to be here and to just elevate the 125 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 14: culture and where Breaking is going with now Paris twenty 126 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 14: twenty four and Breaking now being on the Olympic platform, 127 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 14: I think Breaking is finally going to receive that reinforcement 128 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 14: that is always needed because back in the eighties, I 129 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 14: mean it was it was definitely seeing movies like Flash 130 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 14: Dance or documentaries like Style Wars and Breaking. It was 131 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 14: elevating the culture in so many ways, but the Breaker 132 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 14: was always getting pushed back in the back burner. But 133 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 14: you know, thanks Shirak for bringing that to light because 134 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 14: you know, the Bee Boys and the be Girls, you know, 135 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 14: we're a big piece of the culture and it got 136 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 14: to be combined together and reinforced. And I just love 137 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 14: that just the concept and the idea of hip hop 138 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 14: culture growing and to be a part of it. 139 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 3: Man, it's a true blessing. 140 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: Well, it was hard to see b boying and Breaking 141 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: because think about it, like the DJ, it plays the 142 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: music and it's part of foundation. MC's original job was 143 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: to pig up the DJ. And then you take graffiti 144 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: where your goal was for the graffiti to be seen everywhere. 145 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: So that's why they put it literally on a train 146 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: so it would move around the city. How was Breaking represented, 147 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So now it's gonna be 148 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: in the Olympics and on the main screen. It's going 149 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: to show a whole other level of bit. 150 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 14: Look, the Bee Boys, the B Girls, they don't exist 151 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 14: without the DJ, they don't exist without the MC, they 152 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 14: don't exist without the artwork. All together, it paints a 153 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 14: beautiful picture. And I just hope that the IOC, the 154 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 14: International Olympic Committee, can really reinforce that because, you know, 155 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 14: the opportunity of being part of a big platform. You know, 156 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 14: everyone is a little has a little fear that the 157 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 14: essence of hip hop culture might be diluted. But it's 158 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 14: important for people like us to kind of voice our 159 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 14: thoughts and opinions and kind of bring that expertise to 160 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 14: the table and make sure that that we go out 161 00:07:59,080 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 14: there and do that. 162 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: You know, I just want to see. 163 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 6: I just want to see what what commentators they have 164 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 6: from NBC. 165 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 12: That conversation we had because I'm a big girl in 166 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 12: nineteen seventy six, right, and so of course you know 167 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 12: who heard seventy three, you know, father of hip hop. 168 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 12: We've we called him the father of hip hop because 169 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 12: you know, he had the A one B Boys, the 170 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 12: Keiths and Kevin, which you know was called the legendary Twins, 171 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 12: and he changed their name you know recently, Right, No, 172 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 12: for real, and then you had Tricksy the first. 173 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. 174 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 15: I'm loving that. I don't know, I'm glad that he 175 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 15: said that. 176 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: His face was like, oh. 177 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 12: No, no, that's what they were called back in the days, 178 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 12: you know, the first MC so we knew them as 179 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 12: the Twins. 180 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 11: But as they got. 181 00:08:50,840 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 12: Older, twins, thank you, they recently changed the names changing. 182 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 12: But the thing is, what I'm saying is like you said, 183 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 12: you know, far as the B Girls and the Bee Boys, 184 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 12: and we'll get to the graffiti, you know, how they're 185 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 12: intertwined with hip hop, you know in general, but yeah, 186 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 12: the Bee Boys and B Girls are underground. And my 187 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 12: thing has always been, listen, if they go into the Olympics, 188 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 12: you got to know where it came from. And yes, 189 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 12: people like to say, oh B bee Boyism and B 190 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 12: Giralism started back, you know, in the thirties, you know, 191 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 12: when you had you know, different old older people, you know, breakdancing. 192 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 12: But we're talking about hip hop culture and Cass has 193 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 12: this saying that, you know, hip hop didn't invent anything, 194 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 12: re reinvented everything. So I hate when people come, yeah, 195 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 12: when it started in the thirties and started in the 196 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 12: four forties, no hip hop was reinvented, and all of 197 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 12: those elements were reinvented, you know, to you know, to 198 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 12: make up the culture of hip hop. So I would 199 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 12: like to see and we talked about that of how 200 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 12: breakdancing is going to or be girlism or bee boyism 201 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 12: is going to how it's going to affect you know. 202 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 12: I want to see it, take it taken from the 203 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 12: beginning to how it is now. 204 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 7: One thing we got to know is that I don't 205 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 7: think hip pop would have grown internationally the way it 206 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 7: did without the bee boys and girls graffiti, because before 207 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 7: they understood the lyrics they was dancing, was tagging up. 208 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 11: It's none without the other. 209 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the Bulgarian Olympic bee boy. 210 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 3: I heard. 211 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 12: We started with the up rocks, the up rocks in 212 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 12: the seventies with the up rocks, and then it progressed, 213 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 12: you know, to the floor moves and all of that. 214 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 14: Maybe they'll create a sequel to like Cool Runnings right 215 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 14: right about. 216 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: The Bulgarian Boys. 217 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: That would be something. 218 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: Rudenberg. 219 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: You can shout out the Bulgarian. 220 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 4: Shout out the Bulgarian twins side. 221 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 6: If only we had someone here from the graph world 222 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 6: to you know, explain the graffiti. 223 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: So I mean, O g l a graffiti legend. 224 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 6: Risk. 225 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 16: Oh, I'm like gonna try on the wall here, man, 226 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 16: I'm just listening everything. I'm just it's honored to be here. 227 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: This is fucking amazing. 228 00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 4: Risk. 229 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 6: You tell us a little bit about your origins, your 230 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 6: origin story, and when you went to New York from 231 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 6: LA for the first time. 232 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 16: Yeah, man, so, uh, you know, I was interested stret 233 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 16: feeding from someone from New York. And I saw the 234 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 16: trains and and uh style Wars and uh you know 235 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 16: subwhere art that was like the Bible to us, stuff 236 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 16: like that, and all I want to do is paint trains, right, 237 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 16: So we didn't have trains. I went paying some freight trains. 238 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 16: That wasn't the same feeling. I graduated high school. I 239 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 16: hitch hiked that day to New York to hit trains, 240 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 16: and I just I was like, I was on a mission. 241 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 4: Is what is exactly h hitch hiking? What is exactly that? 242 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: Well, you put your dumb up and after that was 243 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 3: just on TV. 244 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: You do one of these days. I didn't even get 245 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: out of Hollywood. SOE was like, what are you doing? 246 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 4: I sad I'm hitchhiking to paint trains. 247 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: He goes, you're fucking stupid. 248 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: He goes, take my car. 249 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 16: I'm like, what's the acting is, I'll pay you to 250 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 16: drive the car said great. 251 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: So it was. 252 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 16: It was a little easier, but I made it to 253 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 16: New York and I met some great legendary dudes, Ghosts 254 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 16: and Vin and Reese and Kat and Chino and all 255 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 16: these dudes within like five minutes in New York. 256 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: And they're like. 257 00:11:59,559 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: What do you do? 258 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 4: I told me. They said, that's fucking wild. 259 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: They you're gonna get killed. 260 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: You're fucking out of your mind. 261 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 16: And they hooked me up, man, and they took me 262 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 16: in and they took me into all your hearts and 263 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 16: the trains, and we started painting. I met Lee and 264 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 16: all these dudes and went to Henry's studio and it 265 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 16: was fucking amazing. And uh, that was my introduction to graffiti, 266 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 16: to becoming like on the platform of graffiti with all 267 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 16: these giants, so to speak. And I was always embraced 268 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 16: by New York and I was a West Coast student. 269 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 16: I have a New York style, and that's where it 270 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 16: came from. That's how it started, you know. I was 271 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 16: started in eighty three, and uh yeah, I love it, 272 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 16: love the art form. I appreciate every aspect of it. 273 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 16: I appreciate every aspect of hip hop, you know. 274 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 11: And let me let me go sound with you, sir. 275 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 12: When you talk about graffiti art, a lot of people 276 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 12: like to say, okay, so graffiti, you know, it was, 277 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 12: had their own their own section, right. But how it 278 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 12: came in to play with hip hop culture is because 279 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 12: you had the people like Buddy Esquire, who was the 280 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 12: king of flyers in New York, and then you had 281 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 12: Anthony Rowley, and then you had other you know, artists 282 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 12: you know that were painting on the trains in New 283 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 12: York City. 284 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 11: And what happened was in nineteen. 285 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 12: Seventy eight switched the whole game of graffiti coming into 286 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 12: play with hip hop culture. And how that started was 287 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 12: is that they took what they were doing on the 288 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 12: trains and transitioned it to flyers. And so that's how 289 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 12: he said, okay, well, hip hop, you know, graffiti is 290 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 12: not fighters. But that's how it came into play with 291 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 12: hip hop through the through the graph artists that were 292 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 12: painted on the trains, like the Buddy Esquires and Anthony 293 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 12: Rowleies that would transferred that information over to flyer makers, 294 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 12: and so Buddy Buddy Esquire became the first uh graffiti artists, 295 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 12: you know, to make flyers. He was a part of 296 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 12: my group, the Flankie four plus one of the Brothers Disco, 297 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 12: and he began to start making fights for every single 298 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 12: group artist that was out there, you know. And so 299 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 12: that's how you know, graffiti intertwined with that. And he 300 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 12: started drawing uh graffiti on people. 301 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: Pays you make your sound French. 302 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 12: Saw the Bronx, but I'm living in Texas down so 303 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 12: you get the book. So you're getting at the book 304 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 12: the world. So what happened is that he he started 305 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 12: drawing on on on the pants and the dungarees, you know, 306 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 12: the eight ball jackets and all that stuff. And on 307 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 12: my DJ's car, DJ Breakout on the Doom Buggy. He 308 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 12: started doing the graffiti on doom buggies and cars. And 309 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 12: that's how graffiti came over to hip hop culture as 310 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 12: one of the elements for hip hop culture. 311 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: I want to I want to look at graffiti. 312 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 6: Guini, Why can you tell us a little bit about 313 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 6: your your coming up, your first sort of engagement with 314 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 6: hip hop, like do you I always ask that to 315 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 6: New York artists. But growing up in Texas, what was 316 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 6: your first engagement with hip hop? 317 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: Cost That's a. 318 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 10: Great question actually, So I had a stepmom that was 319 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 10: really into music and she would keep a lot of 320 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 10: music around it, and it was it was a mix 321 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 10: of music, right, So there was some hip hop, early 322 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 10: hip hop throwing in there, but then it was also 323 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 10: like Millie Jackson and Dolomite and like real wold shit. 324 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: Right, you know. 325 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 10: So as hip hop started to become more reflective, I 326 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 10: was like, okay, well, well the ship they were making 327 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 10: then it's kind of like this but with different beats 328 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 10: and all of that. But I think for me it 329 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 10: was obviously the message was the first record that I 330 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 10: was like, damn broken glass everywhere with the fuck are 331 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 10: these people living there? 332 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: Right? 333 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 10: Like we had we had projects and we you know, 334 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 10: we had projects. 335 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: It was crazy, but it wasn't broken glass everything. 336 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 6: You know what. 337 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 11: People just don't care. 338 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: Right where they lived at. 339 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 10: And the more you listen to it, like me being 340 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 10: in Texas, in the small town of Port Art, I'm like, yo, 341 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 10: it shit happening in LA That kind of sound like 342 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 10: it's happening here. It shit happening in New York. That 343 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 10: kind of sound like it's happening here. I just don't 344 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 10: get those words right. And then you start meeting people, 345 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 10: you start to break down the lexicon. Oh, that's what 346 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 10: that means. We just call it like stabbing the nigga. 347 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 10: So that's what buck fifty mean, that's what okay? 348 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: All right? 349 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 11: Cool? 350 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: And then you start all I'm like, oh yeah. 351 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 10: And then the Ghetto Boys made the song you know 352 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 10: the world is a ghetto, and we realized that everything 353 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 10: that we're doing, everybody else is doing. We use different words, 354 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 10: we saved a different way. We say graffiti, right, but 355 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 10: we all know what we're talking about. But I wanted 356 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 10: to be an active part of it, right. I came 357 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 10: in as a fan with a real big appreciation of lyricism, 358 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 10: and I was like, one day, like I want to 359 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 10: I saw a microphone fiend. I was like, I want 360 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 10: to be cool like that. Like the video Black and 361 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 10: White Walking with the Light had the little dude with 362 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 10: the chain. I said, I'm gonna get Oh, I'm kids, 363 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 10: my little man gonna have a gold chain. We're gonna 364 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 10: be flying all that type of shit. 365 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But it was something that 366 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: I felt like I had to be a part of. 367 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 10: It felt so different from everything else that everybody was doing, 368 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 10: and there was a clear entry point for me to 369 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 10: get in. So I started out actually breakdancing first. You 370 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 10: know what I'm saying. I think my move was a 371 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 10: suicide because I was a big dude when I got 372 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 10: this suicide. Yes, yes, I remember going to break In 373 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 10: two and we just started breakdancing in the movie, did 374 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying, Like, we just started. 375 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: Battling in there, you know. 376 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 10: But when I picked up depending, I started writing and trash. 377 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 10: It'd be very real. My first rounds were trash. They 378 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 10: were garbage. But I was on beat, which is better 379 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 10: than half of the niggas in the group I was with. 380 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 10: They didn't even nobody took the beat. But I wanted 381 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 10: to be a great MC right. I wanted to be 382 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 10: where if I ever did go to New York and 383 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 10: I met somebody that I looked them to, like a 384 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 10: big Daddy or Coogi Rap or Bis Markie or Massas. 385 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 10: I was a big Juice Crew fan, obviously because they 386 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 10: were like one of the people that perpetuated eight or 387 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 10: eight base right and the South Base was a big 388 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 10: part of the culture, so it was very easy for 389 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 10: us to enjoy New York music. But I wanted to 390 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 10: when I met MC's to be like, Yo, you can rap. 391 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 392 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 10: It wasn't And when I started rapping in eighty eight, 393 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 10: it was not about getting money. It was not about 394 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 10: being rich. I never knew if I would ever make 395 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 10: any money off of hip hop. I didn't know if 396 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 10: I would ever put a record out. But I wanted 397 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 10: people to say I was a dope MC. And here 398 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 10: I am thirty two years later, still beating niggas up 399 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 10: on the mic. 400 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? 401 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: Well, And can we add burgers to the hip hop element? 402 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 12: There the number one Burger. 403 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: Let's make some nowise trill. 404 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 9: But by the way, if if you've never been there, 405 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 9: it's one of the coolest spots in the world. Like, 406 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 9: you go there, you can just chill out. No one's 407 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 9: gonna bother you. There's so used to stars there, like 408 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 9: everybody's v P. It's like and I stayed online like 409 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 9: a regular person. I paid my tab like a regular 410 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 9: person because I am a regular person and it's a 411 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 9: great spot. But the thing about it is when you 412 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 9: think about that's hip hop, like that's it is hip hop, 413 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 9: like it's almost it almost should be on every you know, 414 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 9: on your writer, like on your writer, Like I don't 415 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 9: even care if you don't go to Texas radio, I 416 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 9: don't know know nothing to just sell on the radio. 417 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 4: I don't need to care if you you go straight 418 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: to the. 419 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 9: Trio Burgers and get your hip hop experience. 420 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 10: On because it's hip our music playing, there's murals on 421 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 10: the wall, like you know. We try to make sure 422 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 10: for me, it's about cultural experience, right. We all representatives 423 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 10: of the culture. We all inherently carry culture with us, 424 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 10: so we every time we come outside and people meet us, 425 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 10: we may be the only representation of hip hop that 426 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 10: they see, you know what I'm saying. So I feel 427 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 10: like my restaurant may be one of the first cultural 428 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 10: buildings that they may come to and actually experience a 429 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 10: hip hop environment. So I needed to look like it's trill. 430 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 10: I needed to feel like it's trill. I needed to 431 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 10: sound like it's trick. But we already know the burger 432 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 10: tastes trill. But that's what I want when somebody from 433 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 10: New York or Miami or La whatever. When they come down, 434 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 10: they should feel like I'm in Houston right now. I'm 435 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 10: in bum be shit right now. You know what I'm saying, 436 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 10: because that's all we do is provide cultural experiences for people. 437 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 10: Were these cultural conduits. 438 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: To the world. 439 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 9: And I'm sorry to say that, but because so many 440 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 9: people besides jay Z rappers would never be the entrepreneurs, 441 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 9: they will always say that we was the stupid people 442 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 9: signed these contracts with perpetual long deals. 443 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 4: Yes, sound like this. 444 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 9: I know people that still signs in their contract right now. 445 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 9: People don't get a chance to have a second career, 446 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 9: so you know what I mean, or some of us 447 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 9: are third career, you know what I mean. Like, so 448 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 9: just to see you in the culinary arts. 449 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 4: What does that? 450 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 3: There? 451 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 2: You go? 452 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 10: But it's really a cultural brand, right because what happens 453 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 10: is is we go out into the world and we 454 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 10: become more influential. 455 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: Whatever. 456 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 10: We're carrying cultural equity with us and typically that cultural 457 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 10: equity is always co opted by the sponsors and record 458 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 10: labels or whatever. But they basically try to pay us 459 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 10: a bunch of money to sell their products so that 460 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 10: we don't turn around and use this cultural equity to 461 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 10: sell our products, you know what I'm saying. And that's 462 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 10: where the real transition comes in, when we realize the 463 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 10: real power we have. Well, if I'm doing this for them, 464 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 10: if they're paying me five hundred racks to promote this product, 465 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 10: they're gonna use my cultural. 466 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: Equity and they're gonna make millions. 467 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 10: So I got to get my hands on a product 468 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 10: that I can sell to the people and get my 469 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 10: own millions. So I found my burgen. I encourage everybody 470 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 10: to take the cultural equity that you inherently carry as 471 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 10: a representative of this culture and find you. 472 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: Now as. 473 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 6: At what point was did you realize that this thing 474 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 6: that you guys were doing back in the late seventies 475 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 6: could one day become something that has cultural equity and 476 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 6: leads to millions of dollars? Like was there was there 477 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 6: a moment when you went, oh, this thing's gotten way 478 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 6: bigger than I even realized. 479 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 13: Yeah, people ask me all the time, did you ever 480 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 13: did you ever, you know, did you ever field or 481 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 13: envision that hip hop would grow to the you know, 482 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 13: to the extent that it has. And I'll you know, 483 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 13: I honestly answered I, Hell no, I'll be stupid if 484 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 13: I say, yeah, I knew it was gonna be as big, 485 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 13: And I have no equity in it. 486 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: I have except for who I am. 487 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 13: That's equity though, Yeah, that's that's the piece. 488 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: But it's a lot of people. If I have known, 489 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: I would own hip hop, Okay, you. 490 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 11: Could not. 491 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 13: You couldn't not have a hip hop chicken store, or 492 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 13: a hip hop clothing store or hip hop. 493 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: Hip Hop is. 494 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 13: The biggest culture in the world, is the biggest business 495 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 13: in the world, and it's the only business you can 496 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 13: get into without answering to nobody. You ain't got to 497 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 13: answer to nobody to say your product or. 498 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 4: Is hip hop. 499 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 13: You don't got to be certified by nobody. There's no 500 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 13: governing board of the culture of hip hop. It's just 501 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 13: a free for all. Now, whatever industry, whatever conglomerate, whatever corporation, 502 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 13: do you know that you could just walk into it benefits. 503 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 2: Off you know what I mean. 504 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 13: So in that sense, that's why it's grown to the 505 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 13: proportions that it has. And had I known, I definitely 506 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 13: would have taken a stake in it. But we were 507 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 13: part of developing it. It was in the process of being done. 508 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 13: We were in the creative process. We wasn't looking on 509 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 13: how to market it to the masses or how to 510 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 13: mass produce it, you know what I mean. We went individuals, 511 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 13: all trying to make a name for ourselves in the bronx, 512 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 13: you know what I mean, or wherever we are. 513 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 6: We were, so do you when people started really blowing up, 514 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 6: when the first rap stars started happening, right. 515 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'm getting to that, getting to that. 516 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 13: The first time I knew okay, there was a couple 517 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 13: of signs that showed me, okay, this is going. 518 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 2: Past what we're doing right here. 519 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 13: The first thing was in seventy nine when Rappers Delight 520 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 13: came out. Okay, when the first commercialized rap song came out, 521 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 13: and we knew, okay, this is going somewhere past where 522 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 13: we thought. The second one for me was the movie 523 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 13: Wild Style, and we did the movie Wild Style. 524 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: It was like a stamp of validation. 525 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 13: From outside, like, Yo, that shit y'all doing is valid. 526 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: It's cool. I don't care what if you Because hip 527 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: hop in the beginning. 528 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 13: Wasn't like, oh Wow, what's that thing you're doing? 529 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: That's great? 530 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 13: People was like what the fuck is Sit down now? 531 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 13: Why y'all, why are you scuffing up the see because 532 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 13: spin around. 533 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: On the floor. You're not supposed to connect to that 534 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: life post. 535 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 3: What did you say? 536 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 13: You know what I mean, that's not music. That's all 537 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 13: we heard, Okay. But and the fact that you know 538 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 13: it got passed all that and grew to the proportion 539 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 13: that it is. It's a testament to the power of 540 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 13: hip hop. And like budd Bee said, you know, find 541 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 13: find your burger, okay, because we all, we all got 542 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 13: a stake in this culture, especially us that been here 543 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 13: the longest. 544 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 7: One thing, I think that there needs to be a 545 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 7: distinction maybe between the culture that is hip hop and 546 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 7: the industry that monetizes hip hop calling itself hip hop. 547 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 4: Yes, isn't it? 548 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 9: Isn't that you feel like the hip hop union that 549 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 9: we've been talking about, like like that That's what me 550 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 9: and e FN like when we first sorted ship. We 551 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 9: felt like, you know, every other job that you have, 552 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 9: like you have pensions, you have shit like that, like, 553 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 9: and there's people who put it in time in hip 554 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 9: hop and I feel. 555 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 3: Like what I'm talking about, Like, I feel like I. 556 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 9: Feel like every artist, you know what I mean, I 557 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 9: should go to build a definitely a trust fund. Like 558 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 9: I don't know how much money it is, but you 559 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. So if anybody ever gets sick, 560 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 9: anybody ever would like need something like I feel like. 561 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: We should have a pension. I feel like like I 562 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: feel like, you know what. 563 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 9: I mean, like after twenty five years you're in here, 564 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 9: you should get a big ass check or you know 565 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 9: what I mean, like and your family should be straight. 566 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: Like no one in hip hop. 567 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 10: But see that what the problem is is that everybody 568 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 10: within the culture agrees with the concept, but the funding 569 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 10: has to come from the people that monetize the culture, right, 570 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 10: and we're never going to get the labels to agree 571 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 10: on that. So unless we the actual practitioners take it 572 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 10: upon ourselves to protect each other and help each other, it's. 573 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: Never just one new artist. 574 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 11: So I want to add to that. 575 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 12: I want to add to that, Nori, because you have 576 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 12: Curtis Blow, you have Chuck d you have Special Air, 577 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 12: that have the hip hop coalition that that. 578 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 11: Is what they're trying to do right now. 579 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 12: So they're still trying to form, you know, similar to 580 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 12: you know, a unique KRS one is a part of 581 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 12: it to MC like is a party two. So they're 582 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 12: still trying to form it to ensure that exactly what 583 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 12: everybody is saying, it does come. 584 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 10: To fruition, because if you go to Hollywood, like there's 585 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 10: there's funds, right actors, there's literally a house in Hollywood 586 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 10: where when actors is a big mansion and when actors 587 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 10: get old and they can't afford to pay rent, you 588 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 10: can go and live in the house. 589 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's a there's a big, 590 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: nice house. 591 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know. 592 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 10: So, but again, everybody has to figure out what their 593 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 10: level of participation is going to be. Do we make 594 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 10: the jay Z's pay more, right, do we make the 595 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 10: scar Lips pay less? Or do we just have a 596 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 10: general amount right that everybody contributes to and then somebody's 597 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 10: got a monitor to finance. Is that because so many 598 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 10: of us inside of the culture have had such bad 599 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 10: financial situations within the culture, have been taken advantage of 600 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 10: by contractual loss, we come in with a lot of 601 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 10: apprehension about money, you know. 602 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 603 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 10: So it's going to take literally the same way that 604 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 10: we have this diverse group of individuals representing the culture here, 605 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 10: we need hip hop lawyers. We need hip hop accountants, right, Like, 606 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 10: that's part of the culture too. Somebody's got to help 607 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 10: protect us from the vultures and. 608 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 11: They're out there. 609 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: Boys that. 610 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: We just we just have to really find a. 611 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 10: Way to agree on what the level of participation is 612 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 10: for different representatives of the culture. 613 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 12: And it would benefit all of us simply because at 614 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 12: some point, Kas and I we helped create this culture, 615 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 12: and then you have Nori, and then we have you, 616 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 12: you know, and then we have Scarlet. At some point 617 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 12: we're all going to get older and we're all going 618 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 12: to become. 619 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 11: Legends, pre legends, you know, or legends, whatever. 620 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 12: School, old school, We're all going to become old school 621 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 12: and og. So this is to protect all of us 622 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 12: and for the people that's going to be coming behind us. 623 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 6: So you said there could literally be so you could 624 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 6: literally be like a card carrying member of the only issue. 625 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: The only issue is. 626 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 10: If you look at like workmen, unions and teamsits and 627 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 10: all of that, all of the people in the union 628 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 10: genuinely make the same amount of money, right, so they're 629 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 10: all getting the same ship pulled out of that check. 630 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 10: We have too many varying levels of income and hip hop. 631 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 10: So we just got to figure out if you're this 632 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 10: level of rapper, you contribute this. If you're here, you 633 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 10: contribute this. If you're independent and you get a higher profit. 634 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Not just a rapper, you're 635 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: gonna have to kick it. If you're a podcaster, if 636 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: you're if you're. 637 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 10: The most success if you're the most successful podcaster, if. 638 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: Your ship's up here, I know how this works. 639 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 11: But what you say, contribute, that's true. 640 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 15: I'm post. 641 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 12: We have to get the corporations that has been a 642 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 12: stake and have not really given best. 643 00:28:50,280 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 17: Every corporation, every quarter benefited. 644 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: But we talk all this hip hop, let's talk to 645 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: the youngest artists in the building. 646 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: Scarlet Starlet. 647 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: When you hear all this hip hop fifty talk, what 648 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: what do you think in your generation? 649 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 10: Like? 650 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: And you hear like, does it even make any sense 651 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: that it's fifty years old? 652 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 4: Right? 653 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 15: I thought it was really older? 654 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: Right? 655 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 18: Right? 656 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: Ain't that. 657 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 11: Years? 658 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: Isn't that flow? 659 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: Right? 660 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 4: No? 661 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: No, babies say, they say very new in the in 662 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things, a new culture, a new genre. 663 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's fifty years now, But it's like think 664 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: of you know, yeah, classical music is hundreds of years old, 665 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: like this is very new. And do we all look 666 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: like old men to you? We look like a bunch 667 00:29:50,880 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: of old freaks, right, legends, Because I really like, I 668 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: really like I'm from the Bronx, and I really like 669 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: the resurgence of the Bronx and hip hop right now. 670 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: There's like so many brons exactly, and you. 671 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: Must be so proud. 672 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 4: I am. 673 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: Yes, it's crazy, yes. 674 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: And really so many dope girls right now, so many. 675 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 12: And I went to Scarlet off record and I told 676 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 12: her how proud I am of her, because the first 677 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 12: thing people like to say when when they know that 678 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 12: I'm a OG and the first female and see of 679 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 12: hip hop culture, Well, what do you think about the 680 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 12: female artists out here today? 681 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 11: And I rock with all of them? 682 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 12: Why Because a lot of times when we talk about 683 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 12: hip hop, and I said that before, people just look 684 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 12: at the rap aspect. But we are all individuals, we 685 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 12: all sounded alike. Then it wouldn't be rap music and 686 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 12: it wouldn't be hip hop. So I love what you 687 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 12: have brung to the table, especially being a new artist. 688 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 12: Because I told her when I heard our song and 689 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 12: I was driving on the highway in Texas, and she 690 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 12: was like, back the fuck up, move the fuck back. 691 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 4: You know what. I'm sad. 692 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 12: And I was on a highway like this, telling everybody 693 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 12: on the highway back to fuck up, move the. 694 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 11: Fuck back, because I get it. I get it, you 695 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 11: know what I'm saying. This is how we live, not 696 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 11: just in the Bronx, but also in New York City. 697 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 12: We always had that type of attitude in New York. 698 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 11: Look, I just gotta go fuck with me, let me 699 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 11: get myself together. 700 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 12: And I respect her so much in everything people think. 701 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: People think out of New York. People think New York 702 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: is a rude We're not rude. We're just in a rush, 703 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: like a favorite. 704 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 11: Back the fuck up, Move the fuck back. You know, 705 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 11: we got things to do. 706 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you personally. 707 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 6: But it's also crazy to think about now where hip 708 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 6: hop can still go because if you look back at 709 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 6: the last thirty years. 710 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 4: We've had all these moments. 711 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 6: I mean, Latifa and Moni put out Ladies First thirty 712 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 6: some years ago, right and you're. 713 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: Like, wow, it's time, it's time. 714 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 6: Fast forward, you get you get Lauren, fast Forward, you 715 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 6: get Nikki. We keep going, and it really was this 716 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 6: is the first year where the women have brow. 717 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 4: Redominated the whole fit. Yeah, it's amazing. 718 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 12: Women has always been on the front line. We've always 719 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 12: been on the front line. It's just that y'all dudes, 720 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 12: wasn't talking about y'all wasn't talking about it. But we've 721 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 12: always been on the front line. 722 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 3: Always like a lot of. 723 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 18: Opportunity for all types of different females to come in 724 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 18: the game, because before it wasn't really like that, you know, 725 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 18: but like now it's just like a whole bunch of 726 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 18: femalesle to just take over and do what they want. 727 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: There's enough room for everybody. I mean, they're winning. 728 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 13: I think they're winning because they're so different from each other, 729 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 13: you know what I mean, whereas a lot of the 730 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 13: males is such a male dominated, you know, genre as 731 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 13: far as numbers are concerned, and it's pretty much the same. 732 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 13: You're hearing the same thing constantly. So when you hear 733 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 13: something different, it's innovator, is right, it's young and wakes 734 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 13: you up. 735 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 2: You be like, okay, let me go over here. And 736 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: that's where everybody is. 737 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 12: And that's one of the reasons why Scarlett is winning 738 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 12: right now, because people wouldn't expect you know adult, you 739 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 12: know mcs and female to come out and be that aggressive. 740 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 12: But at the same time, you know, lady, like you 741 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 12: understand because what you did was you appeal to so 742 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 12: many different aspects, not just the men, but the women. 743 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 12: So your content for every female that's out there, your 744 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 12: content at some point has to be different, because if 745 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 12: it's not different, you're going to be in the in 746 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 12: the in the rams with everybody else until you have 747 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 12: somebody like Scarlet. 748 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 11: They came out and said back the fuck. 749 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 12: Up, moved back, and she she got the attention of 750 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 12: everybody because her content was different. And in order to 751 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 12: stay in the game as a female artist, you got 752 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 12: to start bringing different content and that's how you're going 753 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 12: to survive. 754 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 9: And she signed to the perfect label Rough Riders. Yes, 755 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 9: perfect label, perfect label we all. 756 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: Know had great success yet with a female artist, you know. 757 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 9: But but but not only that in the streets and 758 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 9: like if you if I was to say that in 759 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 9: the first time I heard her music, I would say 760 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 9: that was a female DMX. I would say that, like 761 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 9: you know what I mean, like and like and to 762 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 9: be with I'm like, this shit is perfect, like this 763 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 9: is God coming down. 764 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 4: Swiss beats. You know, this is this is. 765 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 9: DMX coming to Swiss in a different form. 766 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 4: I got to too deep? Did I get too deep? 767 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 4: Did I got too deep? 768 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 769 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, but it is like, 770 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 4: just just think about it. 771 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 9: If we believe that life continues, DMX never moved on. 772 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 9: D MX is in her spirit. I mean, I'm sorry, 773 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 9: but that's hard. I felt like that's hard. I feel 774 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 9: like that's hard. I feel like that's Hall. 775 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 6: Another another young artist who's impressed a lot of people 776 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 6: and who just like from the first second I saw him, 777 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 6: felt like he had that spirit and conscience of classic 778 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 6: hip hop mentality, caring about more than just the surface. 779 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 4: Is the Bay Zone symbol? 780 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 3: Who's with us today? U? 781 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 6: Where did you get sort of your hip hop sensibility 782 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 6: because you are not like everyone who comes along. 783 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: In the game, but still very contemporary. 784 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 4: Well right, right, well said exactly. 785 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 8: First off, let me say, allow me to be patient 786 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 8: and answering this because I'm still fucked up that Bunn 787 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 8: told me they recorded riding dirty in a. 788 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: Bathroom, so. 789 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 3: I'm still trying to put all that together. 790 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 8: But being somebody from the West Coast, especially being from 791 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 8: the Bay Area, we grew up with an independent mindset. 792 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 8: So we grew up with this mindset of like we 793 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 8: could do it all. We could make the beat, we 794 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 8: could promote it, we could write the rap. For me, 795 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 8: a big part of hip hop was my mom. My 796 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 8: mom was a real estate agent that used to be 797 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 8: a rapper, and she sold houses all around the world. 798 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 8: So as a six year old kid, I knew what 799 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 8: it felt like to be in Brooklyn. I knew what 800 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 8: it felt like to be in Atlantic City. I knew 801 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 8: what it felt like. I had a sister in Texas, 802 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 8: so I seen the world a lot as a kid, 803 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 8: and one thing I would notice was West Coast music 804 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 8: didn't really translate the best around the world. So I 805 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 8: was like, when I started making music, how can I 806 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 8: make something that translates to the hip hop culture in general. 807 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 4: So I never was like. 808 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 8: Obsessed with trying to impress the youth. As much as 809 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 8: they say hip hop is a youthful sport, I still 810 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 8: feel like youth is very fleety. I feel like they 811 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 8: grow up at a point in time and they still 812 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 8: need guidance. I was always like trying to impress my peers. 813 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 8: So when Noori came to Oakland, in January and was like, Nigga, 814 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 8: you to do that gave me everything like that. 815 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 3: That meant more to me. 816 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 8: That meant more to me than my first check, because 817 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 8: it let me know I made him proud. It let 818 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 8: me know I made Joe Budden proud. It let me 819 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 8: know I made Jay proud. To let me know when 820 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 8: Bun just told me, oh man, we get the song, 821 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 8: I was mad about my vocals and let me know 822 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 8: I made him proud. So more than the money, more 823 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 8: than anything. I came in this shit just wanting to 824 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 8: make my peers proud and be accepted by people I 825 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 8: looked up to. 826 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: And that's why I love your story. You're hustle. I 827 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: remember you told a story where somebody invites you to 828 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: the studio in la You had to fly to the 829 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: Bay and ain't drove right back Nipsey right. 830 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 3: It was the first time I met Nipsy. So I 831 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 3: was in Atlanta. 832 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,959 Speaker 8: This is around twenty twelve or I'm just young, trying 833 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 8: to figure it out, and I'm running around, you know, 834 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 8: got a little money, and it was a three sea 835 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 8: fests and I kept hearing about you need to go 836 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 8: to these festivals like south By, Southwest and a three 837 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 8: sea fests and all these different things. So I was like, man, 838 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 8: let me get a ticket and go. So me and 839 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 8: my homies went out there. And at the time they 840 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 8: had this club called Compound. I don't know if it's 841 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 8: still okay, okay, okay. 842 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 3: So Nipsey was in Compound. He was like, man, what 843 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 3: y'all do? I was like, Man, I do music. He 844 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 3: was like, next time you in La? 845 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 16: Hit me? 846 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 3: I straight up live to him. I was like, I 847 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 3: live in La. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, 848 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: I live in La. 849 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 4: Like when you going back? 850 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 8: He was, I'm going back Monday. I'm like me too, right, 851 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 8: So I flew back to the Bay. My car was 852 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 8: parked at the airport. I didn't even go home and 853 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 8: got closed. 854 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 2: I got my car. 855 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 8: I put gas in my car at a Camaro at 856 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 8: the time, got my car, put gas in my car, 857 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 8: and drove straight to La. I got on the Grapevine. 858 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 8: I text NIF Yeah, just landed at Lax. 859 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 3: Where are you at? 860 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 8: He takes me back twenty minutes later, I'm downtown. Pull up, 861 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 8: sent me the address. Came through and he had a 862 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 8: wall of books. He had a wall of books, and 863 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 8: we did a song, and before I left, he was like, 864 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 8: I want you to pick a book before you leave, 865 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 8: and I really want you to read it. And the 866 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 8: book I picked was The twenty two Immutable Laws of 867 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 8: Brandy And I read that book and it taught me 868 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 8: how to look at myself like a product, not a person. 869 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 3: And I got that from Newfoud. 870 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: That's something does without even reading the book. 871 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: Problem, don't you ever disrespect me. 872 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: Calling me a library, yo. 873 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 6: But theam so that's your story because literally of my 874 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 6: Namn story is just a few years ago. 875 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 3: It was pandemic. It was during the pandemic. 876 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe we'd met another time at a 877 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 6: random sobs or whatever, but my boy, Top Shelf Premium 878 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 6: was having an event in Brooklyn, early pandemic, super spreader 879 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 6: event by the. 880 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 4: Way, and oh super. 881 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 6: Shit, all right, but something didn't do as well as 882 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 6: good and you were when you were outside. So I'm 883 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 6: on the block and I see this dude who just 884 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 6: looks like somebody like this is a super underground event, 885 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 6: not a ton of people who look like they have something. 886 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 2: This dude just like, like, who is this guy? 887 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 6: He looks like a superstar standing outside a car posted 888 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 6: up little do I know that at this time, this 889 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 6: man is just finishing up his garbage route literally, like 890 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 6: you were still on the job, right, But the look 891 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 6: he had was superstar rapper and then bro within I 892 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 6: swear to god, within eighteen months you became a superstar rapper. 893 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 4: Like, how did you just like we heard simbl story. 894 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 6: Of he kind of figured out his brand, how did 895 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 6: you figure out how to get the whole gorilla and 896 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 6: Them's thing together? 897 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 3: It was day one. 898 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 19: I've been everywhere I go since I'm a teena's yelling out, 899 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 19: fuck your life. 900 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 15: That's been my shit since since as. 901 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 4: Long as I can remember. 902 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying. 903 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 19: Yeah, no, there's not nothing new like when I had 904 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 19: when I first started rapping in like the early two thousands, 905 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 19: I had a group of us my friends that was like, Yo, 906 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 19: we're gonna call ourselves. 907 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 15: I was like, were calling ourselves fuck your life that sit. 908 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying. If they don't like it, 909 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 15: if they're not with us, then fuck they life, you 910 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 15: know what I'm saying. 911 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 19: And and and then I started battling. I went to 912 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 19: the fight club. You know they told me about it. 913 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 19: I started just beating everybody like I had like twenty 914 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 19: wins and. 915 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 2: Like no loss. 916 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 15: I beat everybody and and it started though with the 917 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 15: branding with graffiti. 918 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 19: Before I was rapping, I was doing graffiti because I 919 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 19: knew that if you saw my name on the wall, 920 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 19: you was gonna talk about me. And then when I 921 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 19: started rapping, I'm not good at art or none of that. 922 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 19: I just were writing as big as. 923 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 15: I could on any wall that I could. 924 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 19: I kept a markle with me, and then it started 925 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 19: just every every block and Coney Island said and them's, 926 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 19: and then every block all over the city. And then 927 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 19: people started noticing me from that, and then the fight 928 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 19: club shit happened, and then people thought I was just 929 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 19: a battle rapper, But what I was doing was taking 930 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 19: verses from songs and just beating people with it, you 931 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 19: know what I'm saying, And and and I just kept going, 932 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 19: and then I kept trying and and and and not 933 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 19: doing it. 934 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 15: But I always knew that I had something, you know 935 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 15: what I'm saying. 936 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 19: And I knew that no matter what, should keep throwing 937 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 19: shit at the wall enough times, ships sign's gonna stick, 938 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 19: you know what I'm saying. 939 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 15: And I went to jail, and then. 940 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 19: I got fucked up on drugs, and then it was 941 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 19: just like you know, one night, I just had like 942 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 19: a moment of gravity where I was like, ya, I 943 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 19: could keep going how I'm going, I'm gonna be dead 944 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 19: by the time I'm thirty, or I could stop everything 945 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 19: right now, live my dreams. 946 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 15: And the next day I woke up. 947 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 19: I touch nothing, sense, I don't drink, I don't smoke, 948 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 19: I don't do nothing. 949 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: I just focused on winning. And then. 950 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 15: I just kept doing it, and then I just kept 951 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 15: Instagram came out. 952 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 19: I just kept showing my personality, showing the people on 953 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 19: my block, fucking with people, just real New York shit. 954 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying. We're on the block every day. 955 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 19: My error is from I came up right before the internet, 956 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 19: so before cell phones, right in that midst of it 957 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 19: was coming out. 958 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 15: So when I used to come out, it was like, yo. 959 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 19: If you if you leave your house, you can't get 960 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 19: in touch with you to meet up on the corner 961 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 19: and joke on each other. And if you don't got jokes, 962 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 19: they're gonna kill you. You're gonna have a bad night 963 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 19: every night, you know what I'm saying. 964 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 2: So I just learned it. 965 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 19: But wait, quick, quick, like get getting on people. But 966 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 19: in New York, people don't understand that's like a bombing. 967 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 19: You know, that's like bombing. 968 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 15: If I'm joking on I'm not gonna joke down the road. 969 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not at all. 970 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 15: If I don't know you, I'm not gonna I'm not 971 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 15: gonna joke with you. 972 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 19: If I don't know you, if I don't like you, 973 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 19: I'm not gonna fuck with you in this the fuck 974 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 19: out here, you know. So it just I found a 975 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 19: cheat cold, you know what I'm saying. Like everybody thinks 976 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 19: I'm like a comedian or now I'm a rapper. 977 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 15: I've been doing this, you know what I'm saying. 978 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 19: I've been chopping people's heads or pauls, you know what 979 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 19: I'm saying. I've been battling, beating everybody. But and I've 980 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 19: been nice with the balls, but that ship wasn't getting 981 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 19: me this way. So I just went this way, started 982 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 19: joking on people and fucking with people. And then they 983 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 19: started taking notice. And then every between every don't ever 984 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 19: disrespect me video or bing bong side talk, I throwing 985 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 19: a freestyle, yo, you know what I'm saying. 986 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 15: Take that, And then eventually and then the bing bo shit. 987 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 12: Also, we talked about you on the radio, right because cassiay, 988 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 12: bing Bong, what the fuck is that? So I said, cass, 989 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,720 Speaker 12: watch what the fuck happened? That shit gonna go viral? 990 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 12: And and what probably liked about the next week bing Bong, 991 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 12: he started saying, that's a product. 992 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 19: Yeah, now that's a product, a straight hip hop blizzard 993 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 19: bomb bomb. So what I used to do, I had 994 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 19: the merch and I used to show it every week 995 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 19: when I dropped new shit and be like, yo, just 996 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 19: check the new ship bomb. 997 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 15: Check this new ship bomb on my Instagram. And then 998 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 15: one that I was like bing bong, bing bong, and 999 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 15: then people started laughing. I was like, I got something. 1000 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 15: And then side talked came. 1001 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 2: We did a video and I was like, yo, I'm. 1002 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 19: Gonna start saying that bing bong bing and then it 1003 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,959 Speaker 19: just took its own world, you know what I'm saying. 1004 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 15: And I was like, all right, I got something here 1005 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 15: and then. 1006 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 19: And then just kept doing those type of videos and 1007 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 19: then you know, you know, I did the album with 1008 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,280 Speaker 19: scram Jones and then be met up with Paul Rosenberg 1009 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 19: and congratulations. 1010 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 4: All of it is is hustle. 1011 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 15: That's all of it is just hustled, like I knew 1012 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 15: I got something. 1013 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 19: And by this point where we're at today is like yo, 1014 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 19: like switch up, Like right to where Bing Bong was, 1015 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 19: it was like I was working a regular job, but 1016 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 19: it was like, ya, I've been doing this rap shit 1017 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 19: now for probably like ten fifteen years. If I just 1018 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,280 Speaker 19: quit now, that's like working a job about to retire 1019 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 19: and just saying. 1020 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 4: Fuck, I don't want my money. 1021 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 19: I don't want my retime and money. Now I'm gonna 1022 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 19: just cry. I said, nah, I put it too much 1023 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 19: time to fucking quit. I'm gonna keep doing this shit 1024 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 19: until this shit happens. And then you know, shit happened, 1025 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 19: you know what I'm saying. 1026 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,959 Speaker 10: And then the thing you said when you said about 1027 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 10: it was just hustle, Like don't don't underplay your success 1028 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 10: like that because you was hustling twelve fourteen, sixteen hours 1029 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 10: a day and then fucking off for the other eight hours. 1030 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 10: And that shit on the gate all the hustling you did. 1031 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying. You see it all the 1032 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 10: time where people like I work all day grind then 1033 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 10: I go. 1034 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 2: Blow a check. You know what I'm saying. 1035 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 10: You gotta have checks in the mail, coming to blow 1036 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 10: a check. But at some point, like you said, I 1037 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 10: stopped doing the drugs, I stopped drinking, I stopped everything, 1038 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 10: and you locked all the way in and made hustle 1039 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 10: like your life's plan not a life stop. 1040 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I made that differ. 1041 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 15: I made it fun. 1042 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 19: I made like so since I don't drink, since I 1043 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 19: don't do none of that no more, what's fun of 1044 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,439 Speaker 19: me is making money. 1045 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 15: When I go to the club, That's just not fun 1046 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 15: of me. When I'm getting paid to go club, that's 1047 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 15: fun to me. 1048 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 19: I just smucked it around in my head where it's 1049 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 19: not fun unless I'm making money, you know what I'm saying. 1050 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 19: And then, you know, just even before this rap shit 1051 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 19: and I bought my mother house and just that's all 1052 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 19: from the ground, you know what I'm saying, Because I'm 1053 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 19: not willing to take anything less than what I want 1054 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 19: to do. And since I'm a kid, this hip hop 1055 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,280 Speaker 19: shit has been in me, instilled in me since watching 1056 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 19: The fucking Disorder these Fat Boys, you know what I'm saying. 1057 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 15: That was like my favorite movie back in the day. 1058 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 3: And yeah, because what happened is. 1059 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 19: My father died at four, and then Coney Allen in 1060 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 19: the project Dwyer Gard's my projects. You know, like my 1061 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 19: moms would go to work and I would just be 1062 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 19: in the crib by myself, and all day I would 1063 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 19: just watch rap movies and listen to albums and and 1064 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 19: and like I'm like a fucking encyclopedia for hip hop, 1065 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 19: you know what I'm saying. And hip hop raised me 1066 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 19: and and I knew since day one, this is what 1067 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 19: I wanted to do with my life. And some people 1068 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 19: give up, you know, life happens. I just wasn't willing 1069 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 19: to your mother. 1070 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: That's all hip hop mentality. Because I always say lately, 1071 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: I've been saying if anyone asked me my culture, my religion, 1072 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 1: my my background, I say hip hop is the answer. 1073 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, hip hop and drink. 1074 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: Hip hop is the answer. 1075 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 4: Political, what was it? 1076 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 11: No? 1077 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,959 Speaker 4: No, No, I'm Republican or Democrat? Yeah, hip hop craft 1078 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 4: hip hopocrats. Yeah, I'm just like it. 1079 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 3: Crazy branded. 1080 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: For somebody talking, I know, but that's that's that's the 1081 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: power of hip hop. And then I wanted to say 1082 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: d J. Stacks that going to building International club King 1083 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: he He's when I first heard your record scholar's record, 1084 00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: yet he was playing it, he was doing it a 1085 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 1: event together. And that's what the importance of a DJ 1086 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: is still to this day. I know everybody breaks music 1087 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 1: on TikTok and on the internet, but still there's nothing 1088 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: like a DJ playing a song loud in a club 1089 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: more an event. And that's what this guy does, man, 1090 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: and he's like pure hip hop stats. 1091 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 4: What was your what was your path to find in dj? 1092 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 4: Oh Man? 1093 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 20: I think it's a little different for everybody else in 1094 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,280 Speaker 20: a sense of I was born and raised in Brooklyn. 1095 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 3: Both my parents are Haitian. 1096 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 20: But when I say Brooklyn, I say different because I 1097 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 20: feel like people from the Bronx are like, that's hip 1098 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 20: hop right. 1099 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 4: But I'm gonna get to that though, but I'll be 1100 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 4: feeling like Bronx. 1101 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 2: Is like hip hop hip hop right. 1102 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 20: And in Brooklyn where I grew up at like Brownsville, 1103 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 20: seen Brownswi and flat. 1104 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 3: Bush, it was very Caribbean, like super Caribbean. 1105 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 4: So the hill part was growing up. 1106 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 20: My older brothers they used to run with this sound 1107 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 20: called stone Love that you probably know about all Legitimika, right, 1108 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 20: and my parents are Haitian, so the Haitian music was 1109 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 20: there and Spanish music, all types of music. My father, 1110 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 20: he was like a real music collector, so it was 1111 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 20: anything from Whitney Houston to Phil Collins whatever. Now my 1112 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 20: hip hop really honestly came from Queens because my older cousin, 1113 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 20: my older cousin, right, My older cousin lived on one 1114 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 20: twelve in Springfield's right, and I used to go to 1115 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 20: the crib and see the turntables and all that, and 1116 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 20: then you know, rest in peace. Like one of his 1117 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 20: boys used to come over and who's one of his 1118 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 20: voice was jam assja wow. So I just to be 1119 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 20: in a crib with them and I'm theyve chrise nam, 1120 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 20: you don't touch my turntables and I'm moving here sneak playing. 1121 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 20: And I started realizing the difference in music, like with 1122 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 20: dancehall and anything else, there's but so much technique you 1123 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 20: could actually do certain things, break it down the record 1124 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 20: and all that, and we're hip hop. It was like 1125 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 20: I could break this record down. 1126 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 3: And tell a story. 1127 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 20: I could do certain things with this I can't do 1128 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 20: with everything else. And then plus it was bars, you know, 1129 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 20: it was less singing and more you know. 1130 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 3: Words and lyrics and stuff like that. 1131 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 20: So you know that's my That's where I came from 1132 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 20: with that, and in the fashion you know, the A 1133 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 20: repeat rock cams, the epm ds and then the queens. 1134 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 20: Hip hop to me that really caught me was the 1135 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 20: mob deeps the CNN. 1136 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, nas like, like, so I 1137 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 3: must say, like first thing is for just being on 1138 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 3: this panel. 1139 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 20: Right here and sitting amongst like real legends is like 1140 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 20: super dope, and I truly appreciate it. And I just 1141 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 20: did my homework, like I started just doing research on 1142 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 20: hip hop and like you know where it came from, 1143 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 20: and you know, and I started listening to like West 1144 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 20: Coast and Midwest and you know, I started listening to 1145 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 20: like the bum. 1146 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: B's and you know all that. 1147 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 4: So it was just weird. 1148 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:35,240 Speaker 2: So I started. 1149 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 20: I was kind of confused for a while because I 1150 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 20: studied music, so you know, I studied samples. Where did 1151 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 20: this record come from? Where didn't get this from? And 1152 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 20: I was kind of lost for a minute. But then 1153 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 20: I started realizing where the money at the moneys and 1154 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 20: hip hop like nothing nothing, and then the lessons are 1155 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 20: in hip hop, like it's so much more to be 1156 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 20: told than learned from to me, so I kind of 1157 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 20: just went that route, and I've been Gucci since, Like 1158 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 20: I literally played most of the biggest festivals across the world. 1159 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 2: Right now, That's that's why I'm at with it. 1160 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 8: Yes, the first time you drink asis Fee, what was 1161 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 8: la Champagne? 1162 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 2: I was? 1163 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 6: I was on drink Champa. I was super excited. Yes, 1164 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 6: I was a mix of scared and excited. I thought 1165 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 6: they a little scared walking. 1166 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 4: Into the room. 1167 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 6: I thought I thought Nori was gonna like really throw 1168 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 6: me to the wolves, not a bad way, because he 1169 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 6: was just like, there's a lot of watching, there's a 1170 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 6: lot of ship you could get from me, and he didn't. 1171 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:33,919 Speaker 3: They didn't. 1172 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 4: They didn't actually. 1173 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 3: Steer me into that much of it. 1174 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 2: Yea, Now did I know that? 1175 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 4: Two weeks later they didn't have one guest. 1176 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 6: After another who hated my guts and would have rip 1177 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 6: me to thread no plan. They have whole clips on 1178 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 6: why they hate Peter Rosenbro. 1179 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 3: Because I'm. 1180 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 10: My thing is every time I would link with nor 1181 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 10: I've only really spent like five extended periods with. 1182 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 2: Nord and the third one was drink Champs right, But 1183 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 2: the first two. 1184 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 10: Times Pissy drunk just in general interaction like I went 1185 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,280 Speaker 10: to projects. I got there about like five in afternoon. 1186 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 10: I ain't leave to like three in the morning, and 1187 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 10: we just out we. 1188 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: Treating shit in pain, we drinking armadale. 1189 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 10: We just on the block, niggas getting slapped, niggas get fuck. 1190 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 3: It was hilarious. 1191 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 4: Fact this shit was hilarious. 1192 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 10: Yes, it's pissy, pissy drunk. So then when I get 1193 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 10: ready to go to drink tamps, I'm like, I'm going 1194 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 10: to do this interview knocking up. 1195 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm not doing all of that. 1196 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 10: Three hours later, my interview with him in drinks After 1197 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 10: is literally two hours and forty five minutes, and we 1198 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,919 Speaker 10: try to stop from like ninety minutes all the way, 1199 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 10: and we just the show restarts like three times because 1200 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 10: like you know what, let's do this, let me ask 1201 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,240 Speaker 10: you this, and I'm drinking. 1202 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 9: Let's go yeh Ben, keep it real. This is when 1203 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 9: we was learning ourselves. We were just letting you and 1204 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 9: the beatlets we fucked up on like like I can't 1205 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 9: wait till like we do our episode. Now I got 1206 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 9: our stick together now, I actually I'm actually articulated with. 1207 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 4: This motherfucker now. Like before before, what we were doing, like. 1208 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 9: Fat Joe just put a mic in front of us 1209 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 9: and started talking and then we threw the episode out 1210 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,839 Speaker 9: and it was like everybody likes this, Like we don't 1211 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 9: understand that us just talking to each other. 1212 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 4: It's gold I kid you not kid you not. 1213 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 2: I know. 1214 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 4: I'm a say like we knew something. 1215 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 3: We knew something. 1216 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 4: That Nas had hit me. I forget which period career 1217 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 4: this was. 1218 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 9: This is alright, this is the time where Tyler Kali 1219 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 9: most death and who. 1220 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 3: Else was on that cover? 1221 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 4: What you mean the cannabis? 1222 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 13: You mean? 1223 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 4: No, no, what saw us cover? It was like back 1224 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 4: back hip hop okay, And. 1225 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 9: I don't remember. It was like it was like and 1226 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 9: Nas came when we better. We were just talking and 1227 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 9: he was just like, how you feel about to cover? 1228 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 9: I was like, you know, he was like yeah, And 1229 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 9: then we was just talking and then were talking and 1230 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 9: then we're talking and then he said to me he 1231 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 9: predicted it. 1232 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 4: He said, yo, one day. 1233 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 9: I don't know if we said one day they're gonna 1234 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 9: pay us for our conversation or one day they're gonna 1235 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 9: pay you for your conversation. 1236 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: I forget. 1237 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 4: And then I remember that. I was like, holy shit. 1238 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 2: And then. 1239 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 9: You assholes kept letting me go up to the motherfucking 1240 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 9: morning show and y'all let me talk. 1241 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 13: And then. 1242 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 9: I realized I knew ninety sevens number. 1243 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 4: I was like, what the fuck am I doing? I'm 1244 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 4: working for living I don't even know. 1245 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 9: It til Berg, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely did my 1246 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 9: Spanish Trailburger first. 1247 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 10: Glorie's key of success is that Norri might be the 1248 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 10: most genuine person facts and hip hop and when I 1249 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 10: mean and jam. I've known norriy through all these different 1250 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 10: stages of his career, same exact wild words made up 1251 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 10: on the spy, lots of drinking and all bregarious conversation. 1252 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 10: Big personality comes in the room and takes it over. 1253 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 2: That's always been a part of that. 1254 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 10: But also Norri has been ridiculously underrated as a man 1255 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 10: in this fucking game. Everybody put a wall around him 1256 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 10: and a roof over him that never held. 1257 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,280 Speaker 2: Nori was not supposed to go as far in hip hop. 1258 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 10: As he went, but he still had bigger records than 1259 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,879 Speaker 10: niggas were way better marks. You know what I'm saying, 1260 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 10: Because personality like people genuinely want. 1261 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 2: To be in your company. You know what I'm saying, because. 1262 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 10: The only difference between going on drink champs and hanging 1263 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 10: on the corner with you is microphones and camp. 1264 00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, that's the. 1265 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 1: Only one hundred percent I'm going. 1266 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 2: To your shows like going to the barbershope, right. 1267 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 13: I know. 1268 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: I always say Norie was my first rapper. Friend were 1269 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: almost the same age. The first rapper that was successful 1270 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: that was my friend is Nori. And I met so 1271 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: many artists through Norri before they were ever big. I 1272 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 1: met two chains in your studio before he was big, 1273 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 1: Lil Wayne Project, Pat David Banner All was in the 1274 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: studio with Nori. Because he didn't worry about if they 1275 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 1: were wherever they was from. He showed love to everybody 1276 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 1: that came through, and like you came to New York 1277 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 1: and he would pick you up, or you come to 1278 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: the studio, he got weed for you and take people 1279 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:43,280 Speaker 1: to the tunnel for the club. And it's like everything 1280 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: he's doing now exactly like you said, He's always been 1281 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: the same. It's just you know, I guess if n 1282 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: gave him a little direction like do it this way. 1283 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but by the way we work. 1284 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 6: While we're giving out, although we still got to be 1285 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 6: talking to the microphone but still but also while we're 1286 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 6: giving out flowers to people just being the same people 1287 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 6: all the time. I was literally just having a conversation 1288 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 6: with someone yesterday about like as radio people and really 1289 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 6: the three of us as DJs, DJs and radio people. 1290 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 4: It's kind of a similar thing. 1291 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 6: Like our relationships with people have ebbs and flows, and 1292 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 6: there are people that you're super close with for a time. 1293 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 6: Nine times out of ten, when they reach a certain 1294 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 6: level of success, I'm sorry. 1295 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 4: They get funny and they. 1296 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,959 Speaker 6: Stop, they stop returning the calls, the number goes green. 1297 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 4: You never hear from them again. 1298 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 6: We are sitting amongst the two most normal, non weird 1299 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 6: no motherfuckers. 1300 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 4: In the history of the game, between Buddy and No. 1301 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 6: There's not a stage that I've been in anything I'm 1302 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 6: dealing with where people are saying sit about me, that 1303 00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 6: you guys don't pick up the phone and. 1304 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 4: Show love and like, I'm just sorry. 1305 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 6: A lot of your peers, they may be great in 1306 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 6: many ways, they don't hold on to that quality though, 1307 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 6: which is endearing. 1308 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 3: Yo, that that goes a long way. 1309 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 19: But Yo, that goes a long way in hip hop 1310 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 19: because being getting in this game, I meet legends that 1311 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 19: I came up listening to and you meet them and 1312 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 19: you're like, this, dude's a fucking fun They're like, now I. 1313 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 2: Understand why they was dissing you. 1314 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 15: Yell, you understand me. 1315 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 2: But then you meet genuine people that might have not 1316 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 2: been your favor. 1317 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 19: But like, I fuck with him so much, right, just 1318 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 19: because the energy and the love that they show, and 1319 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 19: it goes a long way just being yourself. That's is 1320 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 19: a big part of like, you know, listen, if I 1321 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 19: try to embody that because because I meet the legends 1322 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 19: like like Bun and I'm meeting no they and they 1323 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 19: genuinely who they are and who you think they are, 1324 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 19: because so many times in this rap game you meet 1325 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 19: rappers that you think who they are and they're nothing 1326 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 19: like that. 1327 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 14: But if I could say something to that, because earlier 1328 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 14: you talked about the coalition, and the reason why coalitions 1329 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 14: and hip hop don't exist is because people have not 1330 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 14: found the route the right circle yet. It's hard to 1331 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 14: find the humility and the genuine people that can actually 1332 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 14: come together and a trustworthy and create a trustworthy journey 1333 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 14: that people can trust and so like, the concept of 1334 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 14: building a coalition has existed for many years, but the 1335 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 14: reason why. 1336 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 3: Yeah or union or whatever either way. 1337 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 14: Right At the same time, the reason why it doesn't 1338 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 14: exist is because everybody can talk about it, but very 1339 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 14: few can actually do it. 1340 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 3: What Bun shared about. 1341 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 14: Like financial freedom or creating financial equity, Like who's talking 1342 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 14: about that? Nobody is, And the reason is everyone's thinking it, 1343 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 14: but very few can actually come together to do it 1344 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 14: because we stop just what. 1345 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 10: You're doing for you exactly and to start executing for us. 1346 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 10: And everybody quite frankly, just isn't take finance out of it. 1347 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 10: My people's mentality is not built around them taking things 1348 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 10: away from themselves for the greater collect you know what 1349 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 10: I'm saying, because a lot of us come from circumstances 1350 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 10: where we never had nothing. Then we finally get it 1351 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 10: and you like, why should I share it? You know 1352 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 10: what I'm saying with people that won't even appreciate it. 1353 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 10: So it just you got to find that in a circle, 1354 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 10: a diverse group of people from all walks of the culture, right, 1355 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 10: represent all walks of the culture that we trust, like 1356 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 10: just people that we trust, but like you said, mostly 1357 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 10: examt even who they think they are, they're not who 1358 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 10: they present themselves to be. And you get them in 1359 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 10: a room when you talk about some real shit and 1360 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 10: ain't got no conversation for it. 1361 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:32,919 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I'm glad. 1362 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 12: I'm glad you brought up the entrepreneurship because that's one 1363 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 12: of the things that the younger generation said. 1364 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 11: Okay, y'all, don't kick the older ogs. Don't kick the 1365 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 11: ballistic to us. They don't taught us how to move. 1366 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 12: Only thing they say to us is you shouldn't be 1367 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 12: rapping like that. You shouldn't be doing this, you shouldn't 1368 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 12: be doing that. And this is how we bridge the 1369 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 12: gap between the younger generation, you know, and the older generation, 1370 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 12: you know, to kick those blistics and let them know, Okay, this. 1371 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 11: Is how you move. 1372 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,479 Speaker 12: You want to be a rap artist, be a rap artist, 1373 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 12: but take that money that you use and put it 1374 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 12: into something else because you may not always be that 1375 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 12: rap artist. So you have people here today to be 1376 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,439 Speaker 12: able to kick those ballistics to the younger generation and say, look, 1377 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 12: you know, we're going to give you the knowledge, but 1378 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 12: you have to take the knowledge. 1379 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 11: We're not talking at you, we're just talking with you. 1380 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 12: You just have to listen, and you don't have to 1381 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 12: take everything that we say, but just take it into 1382 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,000 Speaker 12: consideration because. 1383 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 11: What we all may have went through with different right, 1384 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 11: we have the experience. 1385 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 2: But some older artists don't want to connect with young gus. 1386 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 11: And they should. 1387 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 10: Very honest, right, older artists, and I'm talking about mind 1388 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 10: generally before we even get to casual generation, my generation. Right, 1389 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 10: they look at what newer artists are doing, the level 1390 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 10: of success that they're attaining, the amount of money they're 1391 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 10: making for doing basically the same thing we did, and 1392 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 10: in some people's minds, we did it better, but they 1393 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 10: made more money. 1394 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 2: For that's just a sign of the times. 1395 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 4: That's got nothing to. 1396 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 2: Take the money out of it. We're all fighting the 1397 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 2: same truck to get somewhere. 1398 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 18: See, it's like a younger artist like for real, like 1399 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 18: all the ogs really like been like supporting me for 1400 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 18: me of course, and like giving me advice and stuff 1401 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 18: like that, like Snoop Dogg bust rhymes, stuff like that. 1402 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 3: We will see one day one day. 1403 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 8: One thing I'm noticing is like when it comes to 1404 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 8: artists like me and Scarlet, who feels nostalgic, y'all open, 1405 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 8: y'all give it to us because. 1406 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 3: We've been the criteria I feel like like. 1407 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 2: But when it's. 1408 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 8: Like and we respect that, but when it's like a 1409 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 8: younger person that ain't necessarily speaking when we speak, y'all 1410 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 8: alienate them, and then that fucks up the culture as 1411 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 8: a whole. 1412 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 3: Not saying everybody, you. 1413 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 10: Know what I'm saying in general, I was looking at 1414 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 10: in my early years, well UGK was doing the ninety 1415 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 10: two was not popular, right, we would not looked at. 1416 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 2: We were not included and ship. You can go back 1417 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 2: and look, there's no videos. There's no music videos. 1418 01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,439 Speaker 10: Because the Red Company didn't want to make them because 1419 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 10: they didn't think gonna like us. There's not a lot 1420 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 10: of magazine shit. My first magazine cover was twenty two 1421 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 10: years after I started. 1422 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, It wasn't trendy to embrace 1423 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 6: Southern artists the East. 1424 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 10: Look at an artists and realize they're getting a bum 1425 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 10: rap just on how they present themselves. Like I was 1426 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 10: with Sexy Red on Friday and Roland Loud sweet girl, 1427 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 10: beautiful girl. 1428 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1429 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 10: People look at her approach as being different. No, that's 1430 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 10: always existed. That's always existed. Hip hop has always had 1431 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 10: this idea of reclaiming their bodies and their identity. Right, 1432 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 10: that comes from slavery. Right, people came out of slavery. 1433 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,479 Speaker 10: They either wanted to recapture their soul because they felt 1434 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 10: broken and they went to the church, or they were 1435 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 10: people that wanted to reclaim their physical body because they've 1436 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 10: been raped, they've been slaved, and then just servitude all 1437 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 10: of that, and those people went. 1438 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 2: To the jew joint. 1439 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 10: So both of those are equal representations of the black 1440 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 10: experience in America and the experience of people of color 1441 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 10: in America. So we can't look down at people who 1442 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 10: aren't bar centric, right, because that doesn't mean that they're 1443 01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 10: the best people for the culture. 1444 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 2: They're just better at what they do. But maybe that's 1445 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 2: all they can do is rap. 1446 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 3: That's it. 1447 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,919 Speaker 10: They're no good out of any other part in their life. 1448 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 10: So for me, if somebody isn't necessarily purely lyrically driven, 1449 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 10: then there's got to be other aspects of their personality 1450 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 10: that people are gravitating to, and we have to look 1451 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 10: at that and see like, well, maybe there's a part 1452 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 10: of life that I didn't experience based on where I 1453 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 10: grew up, on my age. 1454 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 2: That they're experiencing. 1455 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,919 Speaker 10: And this person vocalizes that we got to be open 1456 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 10: to that because we were talking about. 1457 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 2: Crack and shit like that when it was not a popular. 1458 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 8: Thing, but it also wasn't everywhere, and then y'all OG's 1459 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 8: was saying the same thing. 1460 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:37,440 Speaker 1: We ain't with that. 1461 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's this generational gap, right 1462 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 10: that exists in society. 1463 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 2: Period's got nothing to do with music. 1464 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 10: Your mom's music was crazy to your grandmother. Your music 1465 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 10: is crazy to your mother, your kid's. 1466 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 2: Music is crazy to you. That's a generational gap. 1467 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 10: We shouldn't be on the same shit at fifty with 1468 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 10: eighteen year old niggas. We should not be on the 1469 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 10: same page on no level other than just get it 1470 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 10: better in our situation. That's the only thing I should 1471 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 10: have in common typically with a young person is drive, momentum, hustle, 1472 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying, locking in on your goal 1473 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 10: those and so if we can't connect on the music, 1474 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 10: we can't connect. 1475 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 3: On the content. That's cool. 1476 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 10: I'm not supposed to like everything young people are saying, 1477 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 10: but I'm supposed to. 1478 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 3: Support the most what you do best best. 1479 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: Moms not understand me listening to the bread were still. 1480 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,080 Speaker 3: In the same way you know, I make rap music. 1481 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 2: But she I said, my mom money, She's like, don't 1482 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 2: send me there. That's too much the. 1483 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 8: Same way, the same way that you just broke that down. 1484 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 8: It's how we look at it as younger artists. So 1485 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 8: it's like me personally, when NAS dropped last night, I 1486 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 8: felt like I had to be the first to support it, 1487 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 8: one whole drop four four four. I feel like I 1488 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,439 Speaker 8: have to be the first to support it because these 1489 01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,240 Speaker 8: are people that showing me how to exemplify myself as 1490 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,400 Speaker 8: a man. But when I get the forty seven year 1491 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 8: old rapper that's still talking about being on the block, 1492 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 8: fucking five girls and doing all nigga, you got a 1493 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 8: fucking wife with five. 1494 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 3: Kids, tell us about that? What's life like that like? 1495 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 10: Because they don't want to hear you compete with me 1496 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 10: to talk to you, and they shouldn't be talking to 1497 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,200 Speaker 10: you exactly, should be talking to people that were eighteen 1498 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 10: when they were eighteen, exactly. 1499 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 2: When twenty five when they're twenty five. 1500 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 10: Because where I'm at in life is pretty much with 1501 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 10: everybody that started with me is in life. So the 1502 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 10: minute I stopped trying to connect with them about where 1503 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 10: we are now, that means I want some of what 1504 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,800 Speaker 10: y'all got, and I'm never going to get it. I 1505 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 10: know every young rapper out here. I can go get 1506 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 10: a verse from any person. But do people really want 1507 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 10: to hear that? If I go get a verse from 1508 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 10: Future and I could go do that, do future. 1509 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 2: Fans want to hear me with him? No? Do my 1510 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:45,480 Speaker 2: fans want to hear me with Future? 1511 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 11: No? 1512 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 10: Can we mutually agree but still have respect for each other? 1513 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 3: But do all of us? 1514 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 8: But do all of us want to see Future go 1515 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 8: to trull Burger? 1516 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 7: Yes? 1517 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's just shit I'm talking about. Yeah, 1518 01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 3: that's what I'm talking That's why I love you? 1519 01:06:59,120 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 4: What about? 1520 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 1: And I asked the question real quick? What about the 1521 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 1: other side of it? 1522 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 11: Hold on? 1523 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 4: Let me say something though, Okay, let me say something. Sorry. 1524 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 3: Sorry. A lot of times. 1525 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 9: O G would come and approach a young artist, and 1526 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 9: because it happened to me when I was the young artist, 1527 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 9: When I was the young artist, and the you this 1528 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 9: is this is DJ jump each other such like, okay, 1529 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 9: what's going on up Jo? And they sitting there and 1530 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,640 Speaker 9: they talking, and then I can't identify with him because 1531 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 9: it's just me from different areasks, right, So I'm like, 1532 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 9: all right, cool, cool, cool, and you know everybody you 1533 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 9: don't know, like like we didn't know every single person 1534 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 9: in the NBA. He was a fan of the Cargo Bulls, 1535 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 9: but you can't name every motherfucker on the goddamn team. 1536 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 9: So that should happened to me, and so I became 1537 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 9: dom g. Then I was walking in and people was like, well, 1538 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 9: who the fuck is this nigga? 1539 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like the young niggas was like, yo, okay. 1540 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Something or But. 1541 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 9: What I had to do was I had to recreate 1542 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 9: my whole ship, like oh shit, I had to start 1543 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 9: wearing these juries for these people, something for them to identify, 1544 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 9: something for them to be like, Okay, I don't know 1545 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 9: this old motherfucker, but he got on a. 1546 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 4: Nice walk or he got on something like must have 1547 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 4: been what he did. 1548 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 9: And sometimes sometimes that's the way to to relate to them, 1549 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,599 Speaker 9: because a lot of times I don't relate to all 1550 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 9: of them. What you said, you said, we accept you know, 1551 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,679 Speaker 9: y'all three, because y'all got bars and you got things 1552 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 9: like that. But a lot of the times we don't 1553 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,920 Speaker 9: even know how to approach you because your energy wasn't 1554 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 9: the same, Like we wanted to meet Michael Jordan. Like 1555 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 9: Alan Ibison wanted to meet Michael Jordan then crossed them over, 1556 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 9: but he wanted to meet him first. 1557 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And a lot of times, 1558 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:49,639 Speaker 4: as now I'm an. 1559 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,839 Speaker 9: Elder statesman, I don't feel like the young generation we wanted. 1560 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 4: To meet us. I don't feel like they wanted to, 1561 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 4: but they Jordan Jordan, they. 1562 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 3: Do want to meet with Steph Curry the day. 1563 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 10: Where the space is, where we are the same space, right, 1564 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 10: and where's the level of entry for young people? A 1565 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 10: lot of times what you think is is apprehension is 1566 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 10: really like, man, I want to say something to du 1567 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:14,880 Speaker 10: but I don't know. 1568 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 2: I don't know how to. 1569 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 4: I'm so happy for her. 1570 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,519 Speaker 9: I'm so happy for because I know her crew, I 1571 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,880 Speaker 9: know everything that she represents. So it's easy for me 1572 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 9: to say, your homegirl, your little yo, I'm. 1573 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 4: So happy for you. 1574 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 9: You know, Nims, I didn't even know he was rapping. 1575 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 9: I thought I just seen him on Instagram. I didn't 1576 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 9: even know, like he's actually a legend. I was like, damn, man, 1577 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 9: I learned that the other day. You know what I mean, 1578 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:40,599 Speaker 9: and it's just like I want to relate but something, 1579 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:41,760 Speaker 9: but I also don't want. 1580 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:42,360 Speaker 4: To feel stupid. 1581 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 10: So this is what we need. 1582 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 4: We walk in that room and they're like, what in. 1583 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 10: The same way, in the same way that that monster 1584 01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 10: can put this room right with generational you know, counterparts 1585 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 10: and contemporaries in here, we as a culture guy to 1586 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,639 Speaker 10: make sure that there's better. 1587 01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 2: Entry points for these conversations. 1588 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,600 Speaker 4: You know, I'm saying, take drink chests at Trilburger's. What 1589 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,600 Speaker 4: else is hip hop? Come on, there's maybe some more 1590 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 4: hip hop products English. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 1591 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,320 Speaker 9: Diamond chans, diamond change, Okay, don't own it, but we 1592 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 9: gon own it today. 1593 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:26,680 Speaker 13: We got we had enough jewelers of color, yes, and 1594 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 13: we're gonna have. 1595 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,040 Speaker 4: We should have a real hip hop day, like in 1596 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:29,800 Speaker 4: every state. 1597 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,759 Speaker 2: We should have like hip hop like retreat. 1598 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:34,519 Speaker 3: That would be fun. 1599 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 10: A let's go to not journalists and people like that, 1600 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,680 Speaker 10: like people that are you know, like people that are 1601 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 10: active participants in the culture. When we need to workshop 1602 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 10: and build with each other, right, and it can't just 1603 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,839 Speaker 10: be at you know, on a weekend where there's parties 1604 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 10: and other ship that's gonna take us away. Yeah, we 1605 01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,680 Speaker 10: need somewhere where we can build with studios and bar 1606 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,479 Speaker 10: everything that we would want to participate an indulgent should 1607 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,720 Speaker 10: be on the site so nobody feels like they need 1608 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,559 Speaker 10: to leave and go anywhere. Whatever we need for us 1609 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 10: to manage three days together somewhere have it there on 1610 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 10: the site. 1611 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,679 Speaker 13: It's a lock out the whole its subconscious effort. 1612 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 12: And even a young generation, because I think it's very important, 1613 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:22,040 Speaker 12: you know, to include the young generations. Yeah, simply because 1614 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 12: you know, there's not an artist, a young artist that's 1615 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:26,280 Speaker 12: out there that I. 1616 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 11: Don't know about. 1617 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 12: I know about every single rap artist that's out there now. 1618 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,679 Speaker 12: Why because I'm making my business to understand where they're 1619 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 12: coming from. Because they're really speaking some of the stuff 1620 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,600 Speaker 12: that we lived. It's just that they're talking about it 1621 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 12: more now, and so we have to include. Hip Hop 1622 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 12: has always been inclusive. Everybody has always had a table 1623 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 12: at hip hop, and we have to ensure, Like Jun 1624 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 12: be Ugk, I knew about y'all before y'all even started 1625 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 12: making songs with jay Z because I had the best 1626 01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,680 Speaker 12: of both worlds. I'm from New York, the Bronx, but 1627 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,719 Speaker 12: I was in Texas. So I appreciated y'all even before 1628 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 12: he knew about y'all. So I think if you open 1629 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 12: up and learn about these different artists, you don't have 1630 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,519 Speaker 12: to like what they're saying, because I don't like everything 1631 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 12: that's out there, but I respect their craft. And until 1632 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 12: we get together and bridge that gap, that is the 1633 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,880 Speaker 12: only way that that hip hop is going and rap 1634 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 12: music within hip hop is going to survive what we're 1635 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 12: all respecting the crafts from everybody to come through. 1636 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real. 1637 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:32,479 Speaker 13: The culture, The culture is alive, and well, the business 1638 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,759 Speaker 13: not so much, you know what I mean. But because 1639 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 13: of the Internet and because of our access to. 1640 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,840 Speaker 2: Information, now everybody's better. 1641 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 13: Everybody sounds better, everybody speaks better, everybody knows more, everybody's 1642 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,679 Speaker 13: a little more in tune with everything. 1643 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 2: So we take that and we. 1644 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 13: Put that into like the things that we're trying to 1645 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,840 Speaker 13: put together as far as preserving this culture called hip hop. 1646 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,479 Speaker 2: Now, I gotta bounce, I'm out. 1647 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,639 Speaker 4: All right, I gotta all right. Yeah, one last question 1648 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,720 Speaker 4: before we lose you. First of all, on behalf of 1649 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 4: all of us here. 1650 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:07,040 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1651 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,600 Speaker 4: You being here means this whole thing doesn't exist without you. 1652 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,639 Speaker 6: But Is there anything as we celebrate hip hop fifty, 1653 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,519 Speaker 6: is there any one specific message maybe that you feel 1654 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,000 Speaker 6: like people are not getting. 1655 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,360 Speaker 13: The importance of it, is that we established the foundation 1656 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:30,200 Speaker 13: for a cultural movement that rivals any in history, any war, 1657 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:34,640 Speaker 13: any you know what I mean, calamity anything you can 1658 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,400 Speaker 13: put hip hop up in the same breath as anything 1659 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,400 Speaker 13: that you can mention that happened in history. And I'm 1660 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,200 Speaker 13: proud of that and I'm proud to be part of 1661 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,320 Speaker 13: the fabric of the part. 1662 01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,120 Speaker 9: Thank you my brother. Okay, he hopped on a flight, 1663 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,360 Speaker 9: You get some more money? Come on, God damn. 1664 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:03,960 Speaker 2: Yes. 1665 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,840 Speaker 4: And this is this, It's justould be how hip hop is. 1666 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,920 Speaker 4: No one sitting his seat, no one sitting his seat. 1667 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 4: And see this, miserve put his jersey right here for 1668 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 4: this jersey right? 1669 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,680 Speaker 8: I want I want to ask Rosenberg in Cipher a 1670 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:23,599 Speaker 8: question before we get out of here. Being radio guys 1671 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 8: that came from, you know, traditional radio, how did y'all 1672 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 8: feel about the evolution of podcasting. 1673 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 3: I know that I know they were, but they come 1674 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:36,400 Speaker 3: from so. 1675 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,599 Speaker 10: Basically, do you guys look at podcasting the way cast 1676 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,679 Speaker 10: looks at right right, right right. 1677 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 1: Original I'll be honest, drink Champs is overcharging for what 1678 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:49,719 Speaker 1: they did. 1679 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:56,840 Speaker 4: To the It's like, you owe, what's forty is that? 1680 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:57,439 Speaker 4: You know this? 1681 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:03,479 Speaker 1: We started Rosenberg got put on the radio by Ebro, 1682 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 1: introduced us and he said, y'all gonna do a morning 1683 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 1: show together. And we didn't know each other. So this 1684 01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,600 Speaker 1: man had the smart idea. He said, Yo, let's do 1685 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 1: a podcast so we get to learn each other's personality. 1686 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 4: So you had like a religious marriage. Yeah, basically it 1687 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:18,120 Speaker 4: was arranged. 1688 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:19,800 Speaker 1: It was a marriage. 1689 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 4: You're supposed to be called a raised marriage. 1690 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1691 01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:31,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff that Rosenberg says and does 1692 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 1: that I hate and disagree with, and. 1693 01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,160 Speaker 4: He got a lot that's overstated now I do. 1694 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 2: I'm a big guy. 1695 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 1: But what I will always defend Peter Rosenberg is for 1696 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,800 Speaker 1: his love of hip hop. Me and him can talk 1697 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 1: hip hop for hours and hours and hours. And what 1698 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,639 Speaker 1: we did we didn't know what we were doing back then. 1699 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 1: We just we were lucky enough to be in Hot 1700 01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,720 Speaker 1: ninety seven and lost Forfessa was. 1701 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 4: Dropping new drink ships this week. 1702 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,600 Speaker 1: Last week, yeah, like Large Professor was dropping a re 1703 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:12,640 Speaker 1: release twenty anniversary of the main Source or something. So 1704 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,400 Speaker 1: he was stopping by High ninety seven, and he would 1705 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 1: always grab and be like, Yo, can we go in 1706 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 1: the back room and do an interview, which then became 1707 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:25,960 Speaker 1: wand up interviews and the wand up interviews. We were 1708 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:30,839 Speaker 1: just two hip hop NERD fans getting the oral history 1709 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,920 Speaker 1: of hip Hop'na be honest, y'all was ahead of yall time. 1710 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we know that, No, we know that. 1711 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,800 Speaker 9: Like this is what it was like we were high 1712 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,800 Speaker 9: ninety seven. We trained not the curse like y'all trained us. 1713 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,240 Speaker 9: Like I would go to Hot ninety seven. I would 1714 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 9: think of everything I'm about to say without a curse word, 1715 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 9: like I would be our I preman say that every interview, 1716 01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:55,960 Speaker 9: and then y'all were coming in a room and be 1717 01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 9: like to the next room. 1718 01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:58,880 Speaker 4: It's like we're in the principal's office. 1719 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:00,800 Speaker 9: But then you I would say, let's go to the 1720 01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,280 Speaker 9: dean's office and then said you could curse here, said whatever. 1721 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:09,080 Speaker 4: We never trusted y'all. This is a setup at somewhere. 1722 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,679 Speaker 4: We're gonna say something and then then we're gonna be banned. 1723 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 4: And then I didn't. I did get banned not to 1724 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 4: talk about Yeah, but that's I know, I know, Jesus, it's. 1725 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 9: Not talking about that well, but that's why, that's why 1726 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 9: I came off like I will always say, probably your 1727 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,200 Speaker 9: your fort Rosenburg. I'm like this that is like podcast 1728 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 9: is nerdy, And the e f N would call me 1729 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 9: and be like, I'm listening to a podcast. 1730 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, I know I helped the nerds get on. 1731 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:46,360 Speaker 3: Well for real. 1732 01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,120 Speaker 9: I mean, we're a billionaires boys club right now, Holy moly. 1733 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:56,280 Speaker 9: But I was like, maybe we're not that nerdy yet. Yeah, man, 1734 01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 9: and FM was like, listen, I'm telling you, I'm on you, 1735 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 9: and then he was. 1736 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:09,040 Speaker 4: Right, but I'll tell you, I tell you what's crazy 1737 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:09,400 Speaker 4: about that. 1738 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 9: I'm in La one night hanging out with Kid Cuddy. 1739 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,200 Speaker 4: Excuse me, I was with Alchemists. 1740 01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:18,679 Speaker 15: It's a big difference. 1741 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 9: It's a big difference. No, No, it was Michael, No, No, 1742 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,640 Speaker 9: I'm with Alchemists. And he goes to me, let's go 1743 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 9: to this Kid Cutty show. 1744 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,400 Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. 1745 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,280 Speaker 4: At the time, I'm in hip hop purgatory. 1746 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,600 Speaker 9: I don't know if anybody knows what hip hop purgatory is, 1747 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,040 Speaker 9: but you're going to receive it at some point. And 1748 01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:52,600 Speaker 9: that's where you go from being like here to like 1749 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 9: down here. 1750 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 3: But you're like right here, and you don't. 1751 01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:02,280 Speaker 4: Know because if you go up, you made it. But 1752 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:08,320 Speaker 4: if you go down, no coming back, going to the garbage, 1753 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:10,000 Speaker 4: getting back to the. 1754 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,559 Speaker 2: Garbage for real. 1755 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 9: You gotta realize they get tired of us after a while, 1756 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:17,640 Speaker 9: they get tired of us and they want to kick 1757 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 9: us to the fucking curve. That's the reason why we 1758 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,599 Speaker 9: made dreams chance. We want to make people that's been 1759 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:22,679 Speaker 9: in the head so long. 1760 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 4: So anyway, what alchimist, he goes, let's go to this. 1761 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,840 Speaker 9: I don't want to be seen like I don't want 1762 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 9: to like I'm in purgatory, Like I'm like, I'm not confident, 1763 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:36,160 Speaker 9: So damn. 1764 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 4: This is ill right, I ain't gonna lie. 1765 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,920 Speaker 9: I feel feel deep telling this story and I'm about 1766 01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 9: and I'm about the light of. 1767 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,360 Speaker 4: Blood and act like I don't know if you can 1768 01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 4: smoke or not. I'm not sure. We're gonna figure that 1769 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:45,680 Speaker 4: out later. 1770 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:52,040 Speaker 9: So anyway, so anyway, I walk in and then I 1771 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,360 Speaker 9: don't want to say nerves, but all of these hip 1772 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,599 Speaker 9: hop alternative people came up to me, was like, you're 1773 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 9: the god, and I was like why, I was like, 1774 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,960 Speaker 9: I didn't shoot nobody over here, you know, what I mean. 1775 01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,320 Speaker 4: And I didn't realize. 1776 01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 1777 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 9: That's that's how I identify with being the man like 1778 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 9: back then, like you had to you had to pop somebody, 1779 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:14,599 Speaker 9: you know what I mean. 1780 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,280 Speaker 4: But they're coming to me. 1781 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,639 Speaker 9: And what I don't realize is that like you put 1782 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,879 Speaker 9: on for Rell, like the first time we seen Pharrell 1783 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:22,840 Speaker 9: is and he's our god. 1784 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,000 Speaker 4: And I was like, this is this whole of. 1785 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:29,719 Speaker 9: The alternative hip hop that Kanye and this was like, holy, 1786 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 9: this is not gangster. There's nobody in there with a 1787 01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:38,439 Speaker 9: bandann and nobody quit walking, nobody, nobody, nobody in la. 1788 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,519 Speaker 9: I'm like, I'm like, you ain't gonna ask me what 1789 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 9: hood I claim? Like you know, because I'm used to 1790 01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 9: who you claimig Like, no, no, this was alternative that 1791 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:53,800 Speaker 9: this word used alternative. And I looked and I was like, Wow, 1792 01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,080 Speaker 9: there's a whole nother section of hip hop that a 1793 01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:01,160 Speaker 9: tribe called quest because they had it to me through 1794 01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,720 Speaker 9: for real, but for real's not where it comes from. 1795 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:04,400 Speaker 4: It comes from. 1796 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,640 Speaker 9: Actually call question and then what's the native tongue? And 1797 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 9: it's all under the native to and I'm looking like, 1798 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,760 Speaker 9: holy shit, it's still kind of went back to New York. 1799 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,040 Speaker 9: But I'm in LA and that's when I will discovered 1800 01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:23,919 Speaker 9: what is it called? Uh the Kanye. It's not backpacking. 1801 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:29,120 Speaker 9: This is upgraded from backpack. This is a different it's 1802 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:35,519 Speaker 9: a kid cutting and yes, it's just alternative alternative alternative, Yes, 1803 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,639 Speaker 9: and and I realized this other places a hip hop 1804 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,280 Speaker 9: like in my day. 1805 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:42,479 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, this is horrible. 1806 01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,720 Speaker 9: But if I didn't, if I performed and nobody got stabbed. 1807 01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:47,720 Speaker 4: I was like, this is a horrible show. 1808 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,640 Speaker 8: So I liked it. 1809 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,560 Speaker 4: If I did what what what? I wanted somebody to 1810 01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:56,360 Speaker 4: get what what? What? 1811 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:56,680 Speaker 11: You know? 1812 01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,240 Speaker 9: What I meant, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry I 1813 01:21:59,240 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 9: went I went too far. 1814 01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 4: Gods, I'm sorry. Don't get stabbed. No, No, I'm so glad. 1815 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,080 Speaker 4: I don't wrap no more. I'm so glad. 1816 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:06,439 Speaker 3: I'm like. 1817 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,920 Speaker 9: When I did reggae tho, I was like, I'm never 1818 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,719 Speaker 9: going back. You want me to go back to rap? 1819 01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,639 Speaker 9: I just see people dance. So I'm like, got so lean, 1820 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:26,679 Speaker 9: Holy shit, this is and nobody nobody gets stabbed, Nobody 1821 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:27,280 Speaker 9: like this. 1822 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 4: Hip hop is fucked up. At one point, I'm sorry, 1823 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,720 Speaker 4: I'm sorry I didn't remind y'all of that. I know. 1824 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, it had nothing to do with the ninety people 1825 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 1: you walked in with. 1826 01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:41,760 Speaker 3: You have backstage harreat me completely. It had nothing to 1827 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:42,120 Speaker 3: do with me. 1828 01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 4: I'm tell you that. I'll tell you that. Well, you 1829 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:46,679 Speaker 4: gotta say you're a question. I'm sorry. 1830 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,800 Speaker 8: I'm telling this click story. Before we got here, I 1831 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,680 Speaker 8: think I'm in like the fourth or fifth grade. I'm 1832 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,800 Speaker 8: like fourth or fifth grade, and I'm arguing on my teacher, right, 1833 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,160 Speaker 8: and I tell the teacher, I'm like, you don't understand, 1834 01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,760 Speaker 8: like dot, I'm finna blow up. 1835 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 3: Don't even got to be here, right, So she like, 1836 01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:02,680 Speaker 3: what are you? 1837 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:02,920 Speaker 11: Like? 1838 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,040 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? 1839 01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,040 Speaker 8: So I'm like, you want me to learn this and 1840 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:07,640 Speaker 8: learn that when I already know what I want to 1841 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,080 Speaker 8: do in life, I'm gonna be a rap star. 1842 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,519 Speaker 3: So she was like, where is that going to take you? 1843 01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:12,800 Speaker 1: And I was like to the moon. 1844 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,160 Speaker 3: And she says what right? And I look at her 1845 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:16,920 Speaker 3: and I go what what what? 1846 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:17,519 Speaker 2: What? What? 1847 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 4: What? 1848 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:18,160 Speaker 2: What? 1849 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:18,760 Speaker 4: What? 1850 01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:19,040 Speaker 6: What? 1851 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,040 Speaker 8: And the whole class, the whole class starts seeing this 1852 01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,680 Speaker 8: ship to the point I just did an interview on 1853 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,439 Speaker 8: BET and my mom told the story about when she 1854 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,599 Speaker 8: got the call that I was in the class standing 1855 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:31,639 Speaker 8: on top of the desk. 1856 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:32,760 Speaker 1: Going who what what. 1857 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:37,439 Speaker 4: Greatest story? 1858 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:42,480 Speaker 2: Alternative? 1859 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:50,400 Speaker 9: Holy this was great man. I want to thank everybody here, 1860 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:51,599 Speaker 9: even though I'm not moderating. 1861 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,160 Speaker 3: Shut out, shut out the monster energy before. 1862 01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,919 Speaker 8: Fifty of your hip hop right here, man, toast everybody 1863 01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,040 Speaker 8: that had done this. Always say like rappers was my 1864 01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,559 Speaker 8: father when I didn't have one. 1865 01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:14,000 Speaker 3: So I appreciate whole. 1866 01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 8: I appreciate Nor, I appreciate Big, I appreciate Pop, I 1867 01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:21,160 Speaker 8: appreciate X. I appreciate Scarlet for being a female that's 1868 01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:24,360 Speaker 8: not hyper sexualizing, giving men something to shout out that 1869 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,320 Speaker 8: women confide to when we could all be in the 1870 01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,120 Speaker 8: club together. So when I'm in the club, I want 1871 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:29,760 Speaker 8: to tell them to hold the folk club. 1872 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,000 Speaker 3: That's so nuts. That's hip hop, mister fifty 1873 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:00,599 Speaker 18: At