1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: All Right, here we go fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: thirty five, hony, forty five fifty and the kick as. 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: Black College. 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 3: Stunned it. 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Oh my godness, he stumbled and the lateral turn a 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: canter on the inside, don't you The lad came off 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: the field the Knights. 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: It's not the size of the dog in the fighting, 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: it's the size of the fight in the dog. 11 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: This is part two of our American breakdown on My 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: Calvary's joined by Stucky and Duck and let's get right 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: back into it. 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Let's talk Rice. 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: The Owls were four and eight last year, three and 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: five in conference play. There now eighty to one to 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: win the conference. Their win total under a new regime 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: is sitting at three and a half six starters returning 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 3: three on each side, the ball one hundred and eighteenth 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: in returning production. If you listen to our G five 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: primer episode, we went deep on Scott abel and what 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: he brings to this job. He's a perfect person to 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: take over for a Rice school that has high academic standards. 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: They don't have a lot of resources, in terms of 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: nil money to go into the portal and to lower 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: players in that way. And this essentially is what he's 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: done his entire career. Go back to his high school days. 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: He took over a team that was downtrod and turned 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: him into an absolute power. 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: In the state of Virginia. 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 3: Then he goes to Washington and Lee's and OC then 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 3: their head coach takes them to New Heights and then 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: at Davidson. What was really interesting is that it was 35 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: a program at the FCS level that didn't have scholarships. 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: He's still able to turn them into a rushing juggernaut. 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: If you look at the last fifteen years as a 38 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: play caller, ten times out of those fifteen years, his 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: offense led that level nationally in he does it because 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: he was inspired by that Tom Osborne iback option play. 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: He started under center in the high school days and 42 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: then overtime slowly moved that back into the shotgun and 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: his gun option attack is something that coaches all around 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: the country come in to Davidson to try to take 45 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: little pieces to add wrinkles to what they're doing in 46 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: their read game. It makes them so difficult to prepare 47 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: for and even in a conference where there's multiple triple 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: option teams. What Rice is going to do is going 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: to be specific to them and difficult to prepare for. Now, 50 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to kick it right to you, Duck, because 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: this is a team that you've been focused in on 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: and a note that you shot me overnight. Man, Rice 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: was close last year. I agree, even though they have 54 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: to replace eight starters on both sides of the ball. 55 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: This is a team that's not starting from zero, but 56 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: they have the right cook in the kitchen to be 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: able to take these sparse ingredients and be able to 58 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: whip up something interesting for the als, How are you 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: playing them situationally? And are you interested in that? 60 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 4: Win? 61 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: Total? Sitting at three and a half. 62 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 5: And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? 63 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 5: Why ply the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas? Not 64 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 5: because they are easy, but because they are hard? Because 65 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 5: that challenge is one that we're willing to accept, one 66 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 5: we are unwilling to postponed, and one we intend to win. 67 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 68 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 6: I mean, it's a dynamic offense that Scott Able is 69 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 6: going to bring in from Davidson. It's unique in that 70 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 6: it's an inverted triple option out of the pistol and 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 6: out of the gun. They run a lot of window 72 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 6: dressing and some motion stuff to create opportunities for receivers 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 6: to carry the ball, along with running backs and the 74 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 6: quarterback themselves. So there's going to be plenty of options. 75 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 6: As long as they can get the offense to learn 76 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 6: the system in fall camp and understand kind of the 77 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 6: reids and the queues. That'll be really important because with 78 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 6: the quarterbacks that they have coming back, it's unique to them. 79 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 6: So there's going to have a little bit of time 80 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 6: in the seat factor or lack thereof, where it's not 81 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 6: necessarily going to be exceedingly crisp all at once, but 82 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 6: it's going to be an offense that'll allow them to 83 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 6: possess the ball, stay ahead of the chains, retain possession, 84 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 6: and keep the defense off of the field, which I 85 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 6: think will be critical. 86 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 87 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 6: I thought Rice last season was actually really close when 88 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 6: you look at some of the games that they lost 89 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 6: against some of the tougher opponents in the American last season. 90 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 6: I mean, my goodness, they beat Utsa, They were right 91 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 6: there with Tulane, beat Navy, beat South Florida. I mean, 92 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 6: it was really an emerging team and I think that 93 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 6: there's a good things in store for Rice as long 94 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 6: as they can get it together. Now the defense is thin, 95 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 6: the front seven is of concern, and I think they'll 96 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 6: be able to get run on just based on the 97 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 6: personnel that they have. I think Rice will be a 98 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 6: great dog three and a half is really the only 99 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 6: way I would play This will be over. I think 100 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 6: there's probably five or six winnable games on the schedule. 101 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 6: I think that they're going to have to feel good 102 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 6: about their group in those situations. They might take some 103 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 6: lumps against some of the stronger teams than American play, 104 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 6: but I think they're going to be a great dog 105 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 6: spots situationally this season where I'm going to be backing 106 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 6: Rice ats Stucky. 107 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: Before you get in here, I just want to kind 108 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: of add one point in terms of roster. 109 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: Building and overall recruiting. 110 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: Because Rice targeted him early in terms of able they 111 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: got him in November. He's able to hit the ground running. 112 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: They secured the sixth best recruiting class from a high 113 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: school perspective in the American the program's second best class 114 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 3: in the. 115 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: Past fifteen years. 116 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: A small transfer class but two quality starters coming on 117 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: the defensive line, a potential addition at quarterback for a 118 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: guy who maybe in the mix yere In Lucas Sheerhorn 119 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: between him and Drew. 120 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: DeVillier, Chase Jenkins. 121 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: Are you seeing anybody at quarterback that you feel even 122 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: a little bit good about their chances to be pesky 123 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: here in year one? 124 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: And if so, are you over the three and a half? 125 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 4: I would lean over. My fear is their schedule is tough, 126 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 4: they drop the top five in the AC. They might 127 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 4: wear down late. This team's going to be super small. 128 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: Like I think Jenkins is going to win the job. 129 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: He was a quarterback converted the receiver, and he's converted back. 130 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: He was QB one in spring. He fits this system 131 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: the best. I mean, he able only average fifteen passes 132 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: per game. So if they want to run the ball, 133 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: it's more of a triple option. It's more like a 134 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: gone option. It's not a pure triple option. Think like 135 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: Chip Kelly offense. Their running back might be five to 136 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 4: seven to one sixty, their wide receivers could be like 137 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 4: five eight one sixty five to seven. Like they're a 138 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 4: small team. They could really wear down late the year, 139 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: and the offensive line could be a disaster. I mean 140 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 4: they lost their one tackle to Ohio State, another tackle 141 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: to the Packers, a guard to UNC. That scares me 142 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 4: with this offense, So it might be a long year. 143 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: Their defense was underrated last year and they had a 144 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: lot of guys who started for like four years that 145 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: are now all gone. Secondary might have went from a 146 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: strength to a weakness. 147 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: That DC that was drumming it all up. 148 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that they will be an intriguing dog 149 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: to back my numbers say, I mean I project them 150 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 4: three point nine. I'll be looking to back them, but 151 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: passed for me from season long bets. 152 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: Next up the South forward of Bowls seven and six 153 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: last year overall four and four in conference play Hawaii 154 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: Bowl overtime thriller a win over San Jose State, they 155 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: were five to one to win the America win total 156 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: at six and a half, twelve starters returning six on 157 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: each side of the ball, fourteenth and returning production overall. 158 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: The headline here, let's just get it out of the way. 159 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: Will Byron Brown stay healthy and be a star in 160 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: the vierenstoot as he was in twenty twenty three. If 161 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: he doesn't, well, shit, because brace Arci just chose the 162 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Reds and a bag of cash. So if this 163 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: goes sideways with an injury as it did last year, 164 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: the Bulls are going to have to work with freshman 165 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: Lachlan Hewitt, who did ball out in the spring. But 166 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: you gotta take your lumps with a freshman quarterback. So 167 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: could that mean another lost season for them if it's 168 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: all banking on Brown staying healthy. 169 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: If he does stay healthy, though, let's talk about. 170 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty three for a second, forty one one hundred 171 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: total yards, thirty seven total touchdowns killed Syracuse in the 172 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: bowl game. Ran for ninety two yards against Alabama with 173 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: five other starters around him, a vastly improved offensive line potentially, 174 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: and playmakers like Keishaan Singleton, Chaz Nimrod Cartavius noordinate running back. 175 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: You gotta have good injury luck, but the offense could 176 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: be fierce. The defense, ranked one hundred and ninth at 177 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: S and P plus last year, projected to finish all 178 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: the way up to one hundred and seventh in S 179 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: and P plus defense this year. So let me start here. Stuck, 180 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: is putting any faith in a Todd Orlando defense just 181 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: asking for it? Or can the linebacking corps and secondary 182 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: really take a step forward. 183 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean secondary. You got rutgerback, who's I think 184 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: it really good? You do those two solid ones in 185 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: the secondary to power four teams in Austin and Bayern. 186 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: Linebackers should be solid. Defensive line they had three. Their 187 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: defensive line was good last year. They could really get 188 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: after the quarterback. He lost Doug Blue Eli Rutgers. He 189 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: lost good into LSU and then Hawthorns on the Rams. 190 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 4: But I like who they brought in through the portal 191 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: on the defensive lines. I think they'll still be pretty 192 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 4: good there. Do I really trust Orlando not really, but 193 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: I trust Goalish. I mean I think that this team, 194 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 4: I mean I project them at six point eight, so 195 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 4: I show a little value in the over. The reason 196 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 4: I'm not going over and I'm going to win the conference. 197 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 4: This is my horse. North Texas is my long shot. 198 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: I think South Farda is right at the top with 199 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 4: those top flat things, there's like not much separation. The 200 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 4: reason I'm not going over the window and I'd rather 201 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 4: take a longer shot is will Brown stay healthy? Number one? 202 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: I mean even miss the spring game of the hamstring injury. 203 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: I was like, of course, they say, he's fine now, 204 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: but he's got to stay healthy. The beginning of their 205 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: schedule is brutal, like how beat up are they going 206 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: to get? They start Boise at Florida at Miami. I'll 207 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: be on them week one. By the way, against Boise, 208 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 4: anything over a touchdown. 209 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: A potential money line. As as Colin likes to say 210 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: in the Dirty South. 211 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have the humidity too, the humidity factor. Early 212 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: on in the year, I am worried about running back. 213 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: I mean, right, Joyner and Keith were so good for 214 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: them last year, Like they added Franklin in the spring. Norton, 215 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to be as good. 216 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: And they had a ton of injuries in the offense 217 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 4: last year for what it's worth, but their running backs 218 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 4: were so good, I don't there could be a big 219 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 4: drop off there and that that kind of is the 220 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 4: engine that makes this offense go and sets up the 221 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: big plays. But if Brown stays healthy, I mean, look 222 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 4: this goals year three. He's been recruiting. Well, it's team's 223 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 4: top twenty returning production of Brown stays healthy. You look 224 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: at the top. Memphis has quarterback questions, Tulane has quarterback 225 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 4: questions U TSA will get to us that defense questions. 226 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: Navy and Army were already detailed some of their issues. 227 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: And by the way, something I didn't mention with both 228 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 4: of those teams. If their offenses take a step back, 229 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 4: like their offensive lines Army with the quarterback, then their 230 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: defenses get worse. Their defense is benefited from their offense 231 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: being so good last year. So South Florida, I like 232 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: a lot of the town. They have a lot of 233 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 4: young kids that they've been bringing in over the past 234 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: couple of years that could really see an increased role. 235 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of upside with this team, especially 236 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: if Brown stays healthy. So best number out there right 237 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: now is eight to one. So I'm in there. 238 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to pull this up in real time here 239 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: and look at South Florida to make the College to 240 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: Ball playoff thirty to one. 241 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: At any interest in that duck. 242 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 6: Well not really. I don't know if they're to a 243 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 6: point yet where we're going to see them get Florida 244 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 6: or Miami. Think there's a chance. I mean, they're gonna 245 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 6: give Boise State a very competitive game in Week one. 246 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 6: I already have plus eight and a half in pocket. 247 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 6: I think South Florida is the player there in Week one, 248 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 6: but I don't know if they're going to get Florida 249 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 6: or Miami. They'd have to get one of those in 250 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 6: addition to Boise in order to really give themselves a chance, 251 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 6: because there's another conference loss somewhere down the way. So 252 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 6: if you don't get either one of those, now you're 253 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 6: talking three losses and just probably unlikely to make the 254 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 6: college football playoff based on the current landscape and who 255 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 6: else will be in contention. You know, I think the 256 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 6: defensive side of the ball is concerning, But like Stuck 257 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 6: had said, I really like what they did in the portal. 258 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 6: Dre Butler comes in from Charlotte Marifield on the defensive 259 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 6: line from Fau added about three decent G five linebackers too, 260 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 6: So I mean they're definitely trying to shore it up, 261 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 6: and I think that they're going to make a few 262 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 6: strides defensively. I mean it's really about the health though Brown, 263 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 6: like the drop off at quarterback is just so massive. 264 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 6: If he goes down and could really handcuff and limit 265 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 6: what this offense is attempting to do. You know, you 266 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 6: lose your three top running backs, you lose your three 267 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 6: top receivers, there's just going to be a natural kind 268 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 6: of working through that with the offense, despite the fact 269 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 6: that they brought in some talented players through the portal. 270 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 6: So yeah, a little bit of transition here for South Florida. 271 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 6: They've got a lot of tough conference road trips too. 272 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 6: They got to go to North Texas, got to go 273 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 6: to Memphis, got to go to Navy, And there is 274 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 6: a chance that they start zering three straight up in 275 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 6: the non conference, which I think that's why the long 276 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 6: shot future might be a little bit better play at 277 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 6: you know, five and a half to one or six 278 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 6: to one, because they can go oh in three and 279 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 6: that doesn't affect anything in conference play. As long as 280 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 6: they can stay healthy, they can kind of weather the 281 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 6: storm there. So yeah, I mean win totals low for 282 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 6: a reason. I think the slate is tough. They've got 283 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 6: those tough conference road trips, But could definitely see South 284 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 6: Florida kind of being in the mix for the American 285 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 6: at some point this season, as long as they can 286 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 6: win some those tough road games. 287 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Brown stays healthy. Eight eight to one out there, 288 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: I'm in for. By the way, two of the teams 289 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 4: you mentioned, they have to go to Navy. Well Navy 290 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 4: for what it's worth. The week before is that Notre 291 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: Dame pretty good spot. 292 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 6: And they had a hangover last season after Notre Dame 293 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 6: they had a massive hangover. 294 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 4: The least off, it's gonna be a physical game. And 295 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 4: then they host UTSA, another team that's going to be 296 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: in the run. USF has a bye before that week. 297 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: UTSA plays two lan in the week before, So those 298 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 4: are two pretty good spots. Yeah, I like us F 299 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: eight to one. 300 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: How long has this preview been. We're already on our 301 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: third owl team. 302 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: The Temple owls three to nine last season, two and 303 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: six in conference play, one hundred to one to win 304 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: the conference this fall. Three and a half is their 305 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: win total. Seven starters return five on offense, eighty seventh 306 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: in returning production overall. K C. 307 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: Keeler, what a higher. 308 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: Every time you think Temple is truly doomed, they go 309 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: and pull a great coach out of nowhere. 310 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: Philly Justice. Welcome to Philly, Bitch. 311 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 3: Bobby Wallace basically drive this team into the concrete AstroTurf 312 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: at the Vet. Then they turn around to get al 313 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: golden he turns him into winners. Steve Dazio, you know, 314 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 3: guys being dudes. He leaves her BC. They nail the 315 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: Matt rule higher. 316 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 4: What's better than this? 317 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: Guys being dudes? 318 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: And now they're teetering on irrelevance after Rod Kerry and 319 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: Stan Drayden failed and the land k C. 320 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: Keeler. 321 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: So great job for a program, and that, at least 322 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: on paper, shouldn't be all that enticing when you look 323 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: at the landscape geographically of the American To be able 324 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: to recruit in a city like Philadelphia, to not have 325 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: an on campus stadium, all of these things that are 326 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: usually counting against them, they're still able to get a 327 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: great coach and that can help them, you know, kind 328 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 3: of flip the tables here. 329 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: Moving forward in the American. 330 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: He's won two National Coach of the Year awards, a 331 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: pair of FCS Division one Double A national titles. He 332 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: successfully transitioned Sam Houston up into a ten win FBS 333 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: program last year. Just a home run higher anyway that 334 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: you slice it, will they overachieve and flirt. 335 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: With Bowl eligibility this year? 336 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: That could be a little bit much in terms of 337 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: asking for a miracle. In year one, he does have 338 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: four starters to work with on the offensive line. Tyler 339 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: Walker comes in from Montana State as his play caller. 340 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: In his offense last year with the Bobcats was electric 341 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: average over forty points per game and close to five 342 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: hundred yards total offense. Evan Simon or Giovanni McCoy. I 343 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: think they're going to go with McCoy to use him 344 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: the way that Walker used Tommy Mollot last year. Ma 345 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: Loot won the FCS Heisman, so I think it's going 346 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: to be a better fit. 347 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a reason why they target him. 348 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: Jay Ducker could also get twenty plus carries in this 349 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: offense as they try to shrink down the game and 350 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: protect their defense. 351 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: Because the defense was bad last. 352 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: Year and I don't see the pass rushers materializing in 353 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: year one. They really need Jalen Stewart to be a 354 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: tackling machine for this to be anything other than a 355 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: bottom twenty run defense. Maybe a team I can play, 356 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: catching a lot of points, maybe cashing some overs. I 357 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: got to see how fast they want to play. I 358 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: gotta see their their run pass ratio because they could 359 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: go in a couple different directions depending on quarterback play 360 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: it's a pass for me, but I'll kick it to 361 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: you first duck. 362 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: In terms of what you're seeing with the Els. 363 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 6: The change in scheme offensively for Temple is going to 364 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 6: be significant. We're going to see power spread. We're going 365 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 6: to see Tyler Walker, who comes in from Montanasy sixty 366 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 6: eight percent run last season. We're going to see a 367 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 6: lot of twenty one personnel, some twenty two personnel. We're 368 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 6: going to see some tight ends, some big bodies, just 369 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 6: a different type of system than what they ran last year. 370 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 6: Understand Drayton, Tyler Walker when he was at Montana State 371 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 6: last season ran almost thirty seven seconds between plays. They 372 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 6: were a very power run team, but they methodically moved 373 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 6: the ball down the field and they took their time offensively. 374 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 6: And I assume that Keeler will adopt that sort of 375 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 6: strategy to try to protect that defense. So I think 376 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 6: we'll see some honders early with Temple in their first 377 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 6: couple games of the season, and we'll have to do 378 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 6: that to protect the defense that was just so terrible 379 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 6: last season. Although there will be immediate improvement, if nothing 380 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 6: more than just the culture, the attitude, the way they 381 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 6: practice a lot of that's going to come through. I mean, 382 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 6: Casey Keeler just said at Media Days that he immediately 383 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 6: instilled the Temple tough mentality, the culture, the attitude has 384 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 6: improved significantly, and I think a lot of that is 385 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 6: contagious in a football locker room. 386 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: I think you. 387 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 6: Get a group of guys believing that they're going to 388 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 6: be better, and we could see it early in the 389 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 6: schedule as they go to you and then host Howard. 390 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 6: So I mean, I think there are some opportunities for 391 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 6: Temple to get wins. And I think as long as 392 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 6: they can get the scheme offensively up and running with 393 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 6: the offensive line offensively, they could be okay. Based on 394 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 6: what we might not see a ton more scoring, but 395 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 6: we'll see the run game hit, We'll see them extend 396 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 6: the chains, We'll see them stay on the field. 397 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: You know. 398 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 6: Keeler said that his offensive line in the spring improved 399 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 6: from Practice one to Practice fifteen more than any offensive 400 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 6: line he's ever coached. So some of that could be 401 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 6: coach speaks, some of it could be real. He likes 402 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 6: the group of guys he has along the offensive line, 403 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 6: even though some of them don't grade out exceedingly well. 404 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 6: I think that he's got a bunch there on the 405 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 6: O line that he believes in, and that's good enough 406 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,239 Speaker 6: for me, at least offensively. Defensively, I mean, they're going 407 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 6: to rotate some guys in on defense on the D line. 408 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 6: I'm not positive that there's any real resemblance of a 409 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 6: pass rush last season. 410 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 4: It was just so bad. 411 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 6: The havoc numbers fourteen sacks, forty six tackles for loss, 412 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 6: not nearly enough pressure. They're gonna have to get a 413 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 6: little better there in order to just provide a little 414 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 6: bit of relief to the back end because the secondary 415 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 6: at times got torched. So Brian Smith comes in from 416 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 6: Rice and he was the defensive coordinator that really shored 417 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 6: up the Rice pass defense over the last five seasons. 418 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 6: If you go back and look at the Rice metrics, 419 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 6: they improved incrementally year over year over year in the 420 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 6: pass defense numbers, and so may not be an overnight fixed, 421 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 6: but in due time I think the Temple pass defensive 422 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 6: numbers will improve. I think Unders could be good with 423 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 6: this team, maybe not enough for me to go over 424 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 6: the win total, but certainly a much improved group this year. 425 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 4: I think my numbers say over by a little bit 426 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: not enough to get involved because the schedule is tough too. 427 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: They didn't win the lottery outside of the game ins Howard, 428 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 4: all their easy games are on the road, and then 429 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: what do you think of you? Mass Charlotte and Tulsa 430 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: the new coach teams. Because those games are on the road, 431 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: that's pretty much what their win total is going to 432 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 4: come down to because their home slate is tough. 433 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Philly, bitch. 434 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: Dude's not like Temple has a great homefield advantage, but 435 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: you would rather have some of those games against the 436 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: lower level teams in this conference. Playing them in Philly 437 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 4: would be more preparable than playing some of the top teams. 438 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: I think the McCoy's gonna win the job as well. 439 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 4: I'm not the biggest fan. They want to run the ball. 440 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 4: I'm not sold on the offensive line. We'll see. Also 441 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 4: the receiver group, like who is going to step up? 442 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: There was this receiver room. I mean they lost down 443 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 4: and right right. It was such a stud I mean, 444 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: the receiver room looks really rough. The offensive line was 445 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 4: so bad at run blocking, and that's like what they 446 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 4: want to do. But yeah, I agree, they want to 447 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: be a ball control offense, the defense. I mean, it's 448 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 4: amazing how bad their D was last year. But the 449 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: D was also because the offense was so bad. But 450 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 4: they lost Thomas MC State, they lost to Black their 451 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: other defensive end of the Ravens. And then in the secondary, 452 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: losing Johnson really hurt there at he went to NC State. 453 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 4: Their cornerback. This cornerback room. Who who's playing corner for 454 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: this team? Like D two guys So cornerback and wide 455 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 4: receiver look really rough. That's my two biggest questions on 456 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 4: this team. My projections small lean to the over. I'm passing, 457 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 4: but I agree with doct They'll be some times we 458 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: can back the als throughout the season. I don't hate 459 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 4: like under week one against U Mass either. 460 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 6: Oh it's good though, because I have U Mass Temple 461 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 6: written up in the Action Network AAP, so I like that. 462 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 6: I like you Mass Temple under. I already wrote that. 463 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 3: Up, all right, Green Wave time two Lane nine and 464 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: five last season seven and one in the American lost 465 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: to Army in the AAC title game, got drilled by 466 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: Florida and the gas Erulla Bowl plus three forty to 467 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: win the conference this fall and win till was sitting 468 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: at eight and a half five stars returning to an offense, 469 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: three on defense, seventieth in returning production, so much big 470 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: headline talent left. Darien Mensa gets his bag at Duke 471 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: Mackay Hughes leaves four Oregon eight starters on defense gone, 472 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 3: but they portal in thirty four to three star recruits. 473 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 3: They added Caden Samanza, who I like a lot more 474 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: as a backup now that Jake Retzlaf is on his 475 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 3: way to the big easy retz Laf had bright spots 476 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: last season, but he needs to be more accurate, needs 477 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: to cut down on those turnovers and continue to threaten 478 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: teams with his legs. All that being said in upgrade 479 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: that I think smooths out the loss of Mensa a 480 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: little bit to at least to a certain extent. All 481 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: four co coordinators are back, which is nice from a 482 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: staff continuity perspective. I'm just not in love with the 483 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: game changing potential talent on the perimeter on either side 484 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: of the ball. They want to run the ball, but 485 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: they have to replace three starters from a really good 486 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: run blocking unit. Moe Westmoreland could be the savior on 487 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: the edge defensively, but they're betting on a transfer to 488 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 3: Pop and the D line in general. 489 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: I'm a bit worried at cornerback. 490 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: They may need transfers from both Albany and Wafford to 491 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 3: start for them, which when you look at their overall 492 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: talent in the last three years and all the success 493 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 3: they've had to be able to drop down on the 494 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 3: FCS level and really need this is what wouldn't be 495 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: a nice to have. 496 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: This is kind of a must have for them. Is 497 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: a bit concerning Duke and ole Miss. 498 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: You know they catch early, they got, you know, a 499 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: stretch of passing teams to face in conference at UTSA, 500 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 3: at Memphis FAU in a three week stretch. 501 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: This defense could get lit up in the back end. 502 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: Given what they lost, I think they. 503 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 3: Deserve to be able to say eight and four six 504 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 3: conference wins. Hey, successful season, let's celebrate, But that would 505 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: be under on the win total. The plus three forty 506 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: to win the conference says like you need to be 507 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: in it the whole way, if not getting there in 508 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 3: terms of the expectation. So I just think that the 509 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: bar has been raised so much in New Orleans that 510 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, an eight win campaign is kind 511 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 3: of lackluster. I just think they have too many playmakers 512 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: to replace and address all at the same time. And 513 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 3: I'll go to you first, Duck in terms of rets, laugh, 514 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 3: the news and the circumstances of him leaving Salt Lake 515 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 3: City are kind of a circus on their own. 516 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: But where are you on him as. 517 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 3: Somebody who can be essentially a playmaker to raise the 518 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: play of every single person around him and to be 519 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: able to give them a little bit more to prepare for. 520 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: Or do you think he's just more of like a 521 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: turbo version of a game manager. I don't know exactly 522 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: where I'm falling on him, because he had his breakout 523 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 3: moment last year, but BYU, I think in some spots 524 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: won despite him. 525 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: So talk me through what's happening. 526 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 3: And do you even expect him to win the job 527 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 3: coming in so late in the process. 528 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, the staff made it very clear that he had 529 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 6: to get in there and compete for the job and 530 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 6: it wasn't going to be handed to him. Let's put 531 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 6: it this way. I bet two lane under eight and 532 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 6: a half early in the summer on the wind total. 533 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 6: Didn't change my opinion on the win total. I didn't 534 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 6: buy out. I didn't cash out. I didn't do any 535 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 6: of that stuff. I firmly comfortable with the position, and 536 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 6: let's see if he goes out there and wins the job. 537 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 6: I think that the real book on two lane is 538 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 6: going to be they lost so much production in the 539 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 6: defensive front seven, which really carried their team at times 540 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 6: last season, and I'm not sure that they replaced it. 541 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 6: I think when you look at guys that were lost, 542 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 6: like Fob's White and Aiden Huntington, Corey Platt, I mean, 543 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 6: these are big time players, and then the offensive guys 544 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 6: Darien Minsla and Makai Hughes are the headliners. But there 545 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 6: was just so much lost production. Parker Peterson was a 546 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 6: good player, Machado the linebacker was a decent player who 547 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 6: went P four. 548 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a lot of holes. 549 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 6: Now defensively for two lane that you really have to 550 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 6: shore up. And these are veteran experienced players that are 551 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 6: now no longer there, So you're retooling a lot defensively, 552 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 6: which was kind of the crux of your team and 553 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 6: when you were playing up in competition, it was that 554 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 6: defense that you could rely on at times. Well, now 555 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 6: you've got three P four teams on the schedule in 556 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 6: the non conference, and I'm not so sure that that's 557 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 6: going to play out the same way that it has 558 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 6: over the last two seasons. I've actually faded two Lane 559 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 6: in Week one. I have seven and a half with 560 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 6: Northwestern in hand, and I feel really happy about that. 561 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 6: And I feel like Northwestern can go down there to 562 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 6: New Orleans and give them everything they can handle and 563 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 6: win the game on the field. So would not surprise 564 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 6: me at all if Two Lane starts one in three 565 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 6: in the non conference and then hosting East Carolina and 566 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 6: Army will just be no walk in the park. And 567 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,959 Speaker 6: certainly games will be favored in and should be expected 568 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 6: to win, But I don't think those will be walks 569 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 6: in the park. And then later on down the way, 570 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 6: you've got to go to Utsa and you've got to 571 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 6: go to Memphis back to back, and I think that'll 572 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 6: be where the win total is lost. They'll drop one 573 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 6: of those. We'll find maybe another one down the way. 574 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 6: But I'm exactly where you think. I think this is 575 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 6: an important hook. I think this is a team that 576 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 6: can have a very successful season. I think they can 577 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 6: be kind of in that top three or four in 578 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 6: the American this year, maybe they don't make the conference 579 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 6: championship game, but they're still having a very good year, 580 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 6: and I think it's eight and four, so I went 581 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 6: under the win total. I don't really have a strong 582 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 6: opinion on that they're going to win the league. I 583 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 6: think there's better plays out there and just a season 584 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 6: where we see a drop down for two lane. They've 585 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 6: done a great job over the last five years elevating 586 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 6: the stature of their program significantly. People forget the twenty 587 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 6: years before that, but they've done a really good job 588 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 6: elevating their program. This year, I think it just creeps 589 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 6: back down slightly under the win total. 590 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 3: We say it a lot there's teams that win the 591 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: scheduling lottery. This is like the scheduling surprise tax bill. 592 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 3: Because this is challenging across the board. Do you agree, 593 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: Stucky that this could be a team that could play 594 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 3: close to their level last year and still lose four 595 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: or five games. 596 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. Tough non conference. You got Memphis and 597 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 4: UTSA on the road. You also have Temple and Charlotte 598 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 4: at the end of your schedule. You asson at their 599 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 4: wins for Julane, but maybe they're not. Those are brand 600 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 4: new teams at the end of the year. FAU too. 601 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 4: You have those three new, brand new teams at the 602 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 4: very end of the year, you were banking on them 603 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 4: being wins. I your betting the over hy project seven 604 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 4: point seven right around seven point seven four. So I 605 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 4: like the under as well. I mean, you look at 606 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 4: the offense. You lose Mensa. I'm not a buyer in 607 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 4: red slap that he really moves the needle. He kind 608 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 4: of raises the floor because their quarterback situation was a disaster. 609 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 4: But those two receivers to the NFL not in love 610 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 4: with their room. You lose your tight end to Miami, 611 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 4: not in love with that room. Your offensive line, your 612 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 4: left side will be okay, but you lost three really 613 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 4: good ones. Is your center, right guard, and right tackle 614 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 4: over seventy five hundred career snaps. Every single position group, 615 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 4: at least on paper going into the season is worse 616 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 4: off than it was last year. So have a lot 617 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: of respect for some role in this program. But they 618 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 4: have a high floor because they played the bottom four 619 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: and they're still a good team. But I'll make them 620 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: prove they can get the nine wins out of the under. 621 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 5: Th time. 622 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: Th time. 623 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: It's Tulsa time the Golden Hurricane three and nine last year, 624 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 3: one and seven in the American seventy five to one. 625 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: No thanks to win the conference this year. Win total 626 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: at three and a half, six stars, returning three on 627 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 3: each side, ninety fourth in returning production. 628 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick my neck out here. 629 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: There's a lot of new hires across the G five 630 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: that I can talk myself into. I'm out on Trey 631 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: Lamb from day one. He's thirty five years old. He 632 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 3: went twenty seven and twenty five in four full seasons 633 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 3: at the FCS level, plus a couple. 634 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: During that weird COVID year. He did well at Gardner Webb. 635 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: But as we discussed in the G five primer, the 636 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: Big South before it merged with the OVC was a 637 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: really lousy FCS conference, So to be twenty seven and 638 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 3: twenty five when you dig into it more, every single 639 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: time that they played up and they played ranked teams 640 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: to the FCS level, I think they were aposed a bit, 641 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: and I just think he needed to go the coordinator 642 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: route at the FBS level, build a little bit more 643 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: experience understanding of what it takes, because you know, when 644 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: you look at what they did. They just outscored people 645 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: in his time at Gardner Web. I don't see that 646 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: from this offense, at least in year one, because we 647 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 3: got Kirk Francis. His QBR was twenty seven point seven 648 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 3: last year, one hundred and twenty fifth in the country 649 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: of qualified quarterbacks. I don't need the cutout to be, 650 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: you know, having their offense bailed them out in this year, 651 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 3: and then their defense returns three starters from a unit 652 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 3: that gave up just about five hundred yards per game 653 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 3: last season. 654 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: That's one hundred and thirty second. 655 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 3: I believe Christian is in the opener, but they're an 656 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: FCS playoff team from last year. 657 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: Then they traveled into Mexico. 658 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: State, which is a winnable game, but you absolutely one 659 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: thousand percent you need them to get those two if 660 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: you're even thinking about going over on this number. 661 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: I hope they win both. 662 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: Then I'm just gonna unload on them really for the 663 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: next month until the market catches up on them, because 664 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: five of the six top finishers in the American last 665 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: year await them on their conference slate, as well as 666 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: a trip to still Water to play Oklahoma State, a 667 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: home tilt with Oregon state. I see two and ten. 668 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: I'm going under on this one. I know you have 669 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: to pony up from a juice perspective. Last I saw 670 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 3: it was minus one fifty to go under the three 671 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: and a half. I would bump it down to three. 672 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: Have a push on three because I think two and 673 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: ten is where this is going to head duck. We've 674 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: discussed this before in terms of Lamb and this fit 675 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: and what they're trying to do offensively. 676 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: I don't see it in year one. 677 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: Has anything changed for you since we recorded about a 678 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: month ago. 679 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: Not really. 680 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 6: It was so disappointing to see this Tulsa team completely 681 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 6: quit on the season after the ECU lost last year. 682 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 6: The attitude, body language, the effort. It was like totally 683 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 6: checked out, like did not give a shit. What was 684 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 6: also really stunning was how bad the defense was. Five 685 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 6: point eight yards per carean league play. They allowed sixty 686 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 6: six percent completion percentage with thirty eight eight touchdown passes 687 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 6: against last year, when they had nineteen sacks registered seven 688 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 6: times last year Tulsa surrendered forty. 689 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Five points or more. It was just so bad. 690 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 6: It was way down there with Utah State and New 691 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 6: Mexico at the very bottom of the barrel in FBS. 692 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 6: They did portal in some guys defensively at defensive linemen 693 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 6: and linebacker, and those units could be a little bit 694 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 6: stronger maybe than what we saw last season out of Tulsa. 695 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 6: It's marginal improvement. Secondary is totally of concern for me 696 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 6: and still bad. I don't like what they're going to 697 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 6: roll out there for the starting platoon. I don't think 698 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 6: it's going to be enough talent to really affect improved 699 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 6: margin in the past metrics or in the win loss record. 700 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 6: You know, they're going to play fast offensively with this 701 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 6: Trey Lamb system that they're going to roll out there, 702 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 6: but instead of the consistent vertical shots that we saw 703 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 6: from previous regimes, we're going to see some smash mouth 704 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 6: ground game. They're going to use some heavier set formations. 705 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 6: They'll still be in the gun and try to use 706 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 6: some spread, but we'll see a tight end or two 707 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 6: in some of the formations. 708 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: They do have a couple backs. 709 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 6: A Jay Allen is a pretty decent back. Seveon Morrison 710 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 6: comes in, Dom Richardson comes in from Baylor, So they 711 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 6: do have some talent in the running back room, which 712 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 6: could if the offensive line gets short up, you know, 713 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 6: maybe they stay on the field a little bit to 714 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 6: protect that defense and kind of hang in there a 715 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 6: little bit against lesser opponents. Jeremiah Ballard has a lot 716 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 6: of pressure on him. He has got to step up 717 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 6: in the receiver room like he did at UTEP because 718 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 6: last year he completely disappeared. Really, it would be stunning 719 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 6: for this offensive line to get up to mediocre, which 720 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 6: would be up from bad. 721 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: So the schedule is tough as well. 722 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 6: I think right away you've got six games that you're 723 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 6: just not going to compete in Army Navy, Tulane, Memphis, 724 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 6: you're not going to compete in Oregon State and Oklahoma State. 725 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 6: You're kind of behind the eight ball. So you're really 726 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 6: limited in your shots on goal for trying to accumulate wins. 727 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 6: This is a true year zero. It's a reset. They're 728 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 6: trying to implement new schemes. I don't think they have 729 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 6: exceedingly great personnel. 730 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: Probably be pretty tough to. 731 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 6: Accumulate four wins here for Tulsa. 732 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, College kirkoat Chains, he's immobile in the pocket. I 733 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: think he's gonna get benched. I think they're going to 734 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 3: go with another option, and I think they're going to 735 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: get their doors blown off. This is the one team 736 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 3: in the American I am so far down on. Are 737 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: you seeing any positivity right away? In a year zero stuck? 738 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: Will you. 739 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 4: Sit my watch back to living on? I am. I 740 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 4: kind of disagree with you, guys. I mean, look, I 741 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 4: think they're their ceiling is like five wins, but uh 742 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 4: five or six that they're not. I don't think they're 743 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 4: going to a bowl, but I could see them winning 744 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 4: four or five games. I actually like Lamb. There's a 745 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: ton of like energy and enthusiasm around them. I think 746 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 4: Wilson is the worst coach in college football, so for 747 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 4: anyone would have been upgrade over him, but I think 748 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 4: this is a big upgrade. Yeah, they're gonna go air ray. 749 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 4: This is Tenny light. Get the ball off quick. They 750 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 4: don't need Francis to move. He's just gonna He's just 751 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 4: gonna sit there and uh like point guard. Uh. I 752 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: like some of their weapons too that they brought in. 753 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 4: I know that they lost Benjamin and Williams of Wide 754 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 4: or Suit, but I like some of the guys they 755 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 4: brought in, Booker tas Miller. They got some guys back 756 00:32:59,200 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 4: from that shit. 757 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: There's some here. 758 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 4: Presley who was converted from a running he was dical 759 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 4: on a state running. It's a wide receiver. He's gonna 760 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 4: be playing running back and they're gonna use them all 761 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: over the field. Keep an eye on that. You know, 762 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 4: Morrison and Allen two there, So I think they have 763 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 4: some talent. The offensive line is the concern. Yeah, they're 764 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 4: second to lose to everybody who cares. This is one 765 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 4: of the worst historically bad pass defenses. There's still questions there, 766 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 4: but they can't be any worse than last year. But like, 767 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised that they picked off like Navy 768 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 4: twenty five. Dog, you give me twenty five there, I'm 769 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 4: gonna take out a mortgage. My number shows a little 770 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 4: bit of value to the over, not enough to get 771 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 4: to the window. 772 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: I like to hire. 773 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 4: There'll be a lot more fun to watch, and they 774 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: quit last year. Like the culture, the energy will be 775 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: much better, So tiny lean to the over, but I'm 776 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 4: I'm not going to the window, so I'll root for 777 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 4: you guys. 778 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: Well, well, well it's Trent Dilferd. Time. 779 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: You have a strong leader that has courage, boldness, willing 780 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: to think outside the box UAB. 781 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 3: The Blazers went three to nine last year, two and 782 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 3: six in conference play. They cashed the under for the 783 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: second straight went year. On their win total, they're eighty 784 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: five to one the American this full four and a 785 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 3: half of their win total. Three starters returning two on offense, 786 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: one on defense, on hundred and twentyeth in returning production. 787 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: You know, after seven wins in two years, nobody's more 788 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: thankful than me that I even have a job. 789 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: Before we get to Trent, let's start with mark Ingram 790 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 3: the ad at Ua B. I could go a lot 791 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 3: of ways with this, but I think I'm gonna keep 792 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 3: it fresh. I'm gonna borrow some lyrics from a number 793 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 3: one hit from the Summer Manchild by Sabrina Carpenter. How 794 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: could we sum up how Ingram has handled this coaching situation? 795 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: Maybe money call in stupid crazy. Maybe it's is he 796 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: stupid or is it slow? 797 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 3: Or maybe he's just useless, because that is exactly how 798 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 3: I would characterize someone who didn't fire Trent Dilfer. 799 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: Trent Dilfer was ready to be fired. 800 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 3: I think he like knocked on his door and he 801 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 3: already had everything in a little brown you know, a 802 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 3: packing box ready to go. 803 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: Well plays their nation made it really clear there's no 804 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: reason to trust me. 805 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 3: They went two to nine last year against FBS competition. 806 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 3: They lose a Mari Thomas to Houston. If you're going 807 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 3: to keep anybody, if you're trying to spend any money, 808 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: keep him. He's your best weapon. They lost two, if 809 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 3: not three starters in the offensive line, depending on how 810 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 3: you look at returning starters. This was all in addition 811 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 3: to Dilferd's general attitude, which vascillated between angry, sarcastic to 812 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: prea cheat to depressive. You can be a lot of 813 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: things in the world of college football coaching. Yes, Trent, 814 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 3: you can be a prick. There is a ton a 815 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 3: clown car of college football coaches who have been assholes. 816 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 3: But you got to be successful to hang around if 817 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 3: you want to actate this, and you can't act like 818 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 3: you're above it all. 819 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: On multiple occasions, he's looked. 820 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 3: Down on this level of coaching football, and he's made 821 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: gaffes that I think have heard his locker room certainly 822 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 3: hurt the fan base, which then trickles down to hurting 823 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: fundraising and nil. He said he wasn't impressed being on 824 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 3: field level and seeing Brock it's like, Okay, I guess 825 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 3: you're just not impressed with anything at the college level. 826 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 3: And then he like downplays the seriousness of what they're 827 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 3: trying to do. He had that press or where he's like, 828 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 3: it's not like we're fricking Alabama reader room, you clown. 829 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 3: There's nothing a G five fan base wants less than 830 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: being told, like, you know, get patted on the head 831 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 3: and say, all right, it's cute what you're trying to do, 832 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: but you're not in Alabama. 833 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: You're not a blue blood. Like. 834 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 3: He's created a toxic situation inside his locker room and 835 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: in the community, and for that reason, I think we 836 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 3: got white flags ridden all over this season. The only 837 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 3: positive thing he does bring in Steve Russ, he actually 838 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 3: is a full grown adult as a defensive coordinator for 839 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 3: the first time at UAB, he was coordinating the Air 840 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: Force defense for you know. 841 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: Six years. 842 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 3: Those defenses, I think they were protected by the brand 843 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 3: of offense they played. They gave up a lot of points, 844 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: they didn't necessarily give up a yards because there were 845 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 3: fewer plays. I think he's going to just do a 846 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 3: better job shoring up some of the fundamentals. I don't 847 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 3: think they're going to have quite as many blown coverages 848 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 3: or communication issues. So it is an upgrade. But this 849 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 3: UAB defense is almost totally brand new, one hundred and 850 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: fourteenth in returning production. So when people ask me on Twitter, 851 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 3: are we fading Trent dil for hell yet? 852 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: Brother? 853 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 3: We are fading this guy again. They don't have the 854 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 3: horses or a unique scheme. I think the defense will 855 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 3: be upgraded a little bit. Maybe we're talking about like 856 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 3: the one hundred and twelfth defense in the country. But 857 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 3: this fade train steams on. We're not stopping for anything 858 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 3: under four and a half. Let's make it three straight 859 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 3: unders for Trent Dilfer. 860 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: We fully expect bad things to happen, trusting that the 861 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 2: bad things that can happen most likely will all. 862 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: Right, suck. 863 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 3: You just disagree with me on Tulsa. I think that'll 864 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 3: be a fun one to bring up throughout the season. 865 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: Are we going to be sparring on UAB and Dilfer? 866 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 4: My numbers say smallerly over I mean, I project four 867 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 4: point three said now pass. But I'm not a kid 868 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 4: and a guy. We'll see if you can take a 869 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 4: jump I mean, you gotta remember France as a kid 870 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 4: in a not that much experience for Tulsa and UAB. 871 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 4: We'll see if they could take a leap at kidnap. 872 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 4: It had seventeen touchdowns, eleven interceptions, but fourteen big time throws, 873 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 4: twenty two turn over, six percent turn ember where they 874 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 4: played percentage and they lose beb their bell heel back 875 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 4: to Indiana. It was seven of their top eight receivers. 876 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 4: Their offensive line is a major question, especially at center 877 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 4: after they lost Wilson to UVA. So I had questions 878 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 4: about the offensive line. There's only nineteen career FBS starts there. 879 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 4: We'll see if the offense can come together. There are 880 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 4: some intriguing weapons. I mean Hook's Milner Brown from Iowa. 881 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 4: McCrae has looked good. There's a lot of injuries in spring. 882 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 4: Hard to really see what was going to have gone 883 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 4: on with the offense. But look, I don't have anything 884 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 4: on the win total, but I want to talk about 885 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 4: the defense. I actually like what they did on the defense. 886 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 4: The defensive line worries me. But some of the guys 887 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 4: they brought in the secondary, I mean Crumpley from Pitt 888 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 4: Fisher from Maryland Baka from Kent. He was their leading tackler. 889 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 4: Royster from Saint Francis, I think is a good player. 890 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 4: Nicol bet Cheeks for BC he started for a while. 891 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 4: They brought in all these former starters that they were 892 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 4: able to get at UAB. So their secondary, which was 893 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 4: pretty underrated last year. Are considering in UAB how bad 894 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 4: they were standards, but I think they reloaded well. And 895 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 4: then you mentioned the higher russ and then they brought 896 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 4: in a bunch of other assistants from the commanders from 897 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 4: the NFL ranks. Why is that important? Well, if you 898 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 4: AB is gonna go over or when I'm looking to 899 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 4: bet them that this is worth noting For the Army game, 900 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 4: another reason to go under on Army. 901 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: UAB has a. 902 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 4: Bye before Army and they're catching them early in the year, 903 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 4: before the second half of the year. They have a 904 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 4: buy before Army. At home. It'll be the second the 905 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 4: second option team that they face and they'll be coming 906 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 4: off of a bye. And by the way they play Rice, 907 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 4: they're one of two teams in the country that play 908 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 4: three option teams. You bring in a coordinator from Air 909 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 4: Force who spent eight years coaching the defense at air 910 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 4: Force and you're gonna play three option teams. I think 911 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 4: that's important, so they might be live in you know 912 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 4: that that might get them a win at Rice Day 913 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 4: late in the year. So I like some of the 914 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 4: back end additions on the defense, and I like the 915 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 4: hire of Ross, especially on a schedule you're playing three 916 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 4: option teams. They could end up getting that Army game 917 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 4: after the bye week second option team. You have Ross 918 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 4: that sneaky spot on the schedule, but passed for me 919 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 4: on you a day. 920 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 6: Hard to see this team winning enough enough of the 921 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 6: coin flip games in order to get to six wins, 922 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 6: and a lot of those games are going to be 923 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 6: on the road, So at Yukon, at Rice, at Tulsa, 924 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 6: at FAU. I mean you'd have to go almost not at. 925 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,760 Speaker 4: Home for any of the bottom seven teams in the league. 926 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 6: Harder to believe in the rhetoric that's used by him. 927 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 6: We saw him get up there during the media days 928 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 6: for the American Conference, and you know what he had 929 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 6: to say. It just seems uninspiring. He talks about himself 930 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 6: a lot. He talks about how good he's done with 931 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 6: his you know whatever, and if. 932 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: You took a towel and you soaked it and then 933 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: you started twisting it to get the water out. But 934 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 2: it's not dry. It's still damp. So then you got 935 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: to really grind it a little bit harder, get a 936 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 2: couple more drops out. It's not dry. Then you step 937 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 2: on one side and you twist it more. You get 938 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 2: some partners a squad, and you think this towel is dry, 939 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 2: but there's still more water in there. We're trying to 940 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 2: twist that towel. That's how we're looking at our program. 941 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 6: It's just uninspiring to me to want to rally around 942 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 6: this UAB program. I think they probably are going to 943 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 6: be a year late and sending him off. I think 944 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 6: that injecting some life into this once proud UAB football 945 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 6: program would be something that this that UAB would really 946 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 6: benefit from. 947 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that. 948 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 6: It's just I don't have a real strong opinion. I 949 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 6: think that there are some guys that are going to 950 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 6: be okay. I think the running back they bring in 951 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 6: from UTEP could be a bell cow. They could ride 952 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 6: him a little bit and he could be explosive and 953 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 6: show a little wiggle. They've got four pass receivers that, yeah, 954 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 6: they could shine or they could be turds. I really 955 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 6: don't know exactly how that's going to shake out. O 956 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 6: line is, from all my accounts, a mess, and it's 957 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 6: going to be really tough to see that group really 958 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 6: come together early enough to where it's going to hessitate 959 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 6: winning some games early. So I just I don't see 960 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 6: a lot to believe, and I'm not getting to the 961 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 6: window on over by any means. I certainly don't see 962 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 6: a bowl game. I just think that there's just too 963 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 6: much that this group has to overcome, very very sharp 964 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 6: on the coordinator hire and the guy they brought in 965 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 6: from Air Force to discuss triple option. That's a real 966 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 6: interesting caveat. I don't know if they beat those teams necessarily, 967 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 6: but they could. 968 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: All right, let's finish up the American meet Me, Meet 969 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: me UTSA. 970 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 3: The road Runner seven and six last year, four and 971 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 3: four in conference play, plus four to twenty to win 972 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 3: the conference this season, win total sitting at seven and 973 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 3: a half, eleven returning starters, all of them on offense, 974 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 3: thirty first in returning production, seventh offensively. As I mentioned 975 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 3: the whole offense returns, we got an elite chief five 976 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 3: quarterback and Hoan McCown Utsa was red hot to finish 977 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 3: last season. They go five and two down the stretch, 978 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 3: they nearly pull off an upset of Army, who. 979 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,240 Speaker 1: Won the conference. 980 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 3: I really feel confident that this is going to be 981 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 3: a top three offense to the American But for all 982 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 3: this offensive up side, the defense is in a complete 983 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 3: refresh back to back years. They lose the American Defensive 984 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 3: Player of the Year, but Jess Lepp is a phenomenal 985 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. And yes, this is a huge job to complete, 986 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 3: but you got Vic Shaw stepping into that pass rushing 987 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 3: position that helped Tray More and Jamoori Robinson explode. Statistically, 988 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 3: I think to a certain degree, this LEP system just 989 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 3: create statistical monsters on the edge. They've rolled out, you know, 990 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 3: a fronts with that potentially could have three juniors and 991 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 3: a senior on the defensive line to be able to 992 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 3: gum up some of the works. In terms of their 993 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 3: run defense, I think they can be a unit that 994 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 3: will still generate a lot of tackles for loss, but 995 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 3: can they cap the explosives going against them? Thirty nine 996 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 3: plays of thirty yards or more allowed last year from 997 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 3: scrimmage that was one hundred and thirty second nationally, So 998 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 3: when they didn't get home, people were just killing them 999 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 3: over the top. The secondary has to play better. They 1000 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 3: went out and get kk Meyer from Nevada, which shows 1001 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 3: they really did their homework, you know, to be able 1002 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 3: to get younger players with upside. 1003 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: I think he should be a quality starter. 1004 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 3: Bottom line, I think this offense should be great by 1005 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 3: give standards. I trust Left to coach them up on defense, 1006 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 3: and when you'll give the schedule, Yeah, they're going to 1007 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 3: lose to A and M, but then I think anything 1008 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: else is possible. They can be favored in nine or 1009 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 3: ten games. Outside of that, they get too lane off 1010 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 3: of a buy. These guys are my pick to win 1011 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 3: the American at north of four to one. I also 1012 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 3: took a flyer on them at eighteen to one to 1013 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 3: get into the College Football Playoff. When it comes to 1014 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 3: quarterback play, I know that last year we saw the 1015 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 3: G five representative just ride Ashon Gentz who that was 1016 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 3: the right choice obviously generational running back. But I think 1017 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 3: moving forward you're going to have to have not just good, 1018 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 3: but probably great quarterback play to punch your ticket to 1019 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 3: the playoff. I think they have it stuck, I'll go 1020 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 3: to you first. In terms of the road runners, this 1021 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 3: is also a coach. 1022 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: That I know. 1023 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 3: The G five show has made money on BBOC in general, 1024 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 3: has made a lot of money on trailer over the years. 1025 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,919 Speaker 3: Do you think it's time to get back and hitch 1026 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 3: our wagon to his trailer? 1027 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 4: Five? The ones the best price out there for what 1028 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,879 Speaker 4: it's worth. I'm not quite there, but I show value 1029 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 4: in the over. I might bet the over. I mean 1030 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 4: I project them at eight point three eight, So best 1031 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 4: price on the win total over seven and a half 1032 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 4: minus one thirty five is out there. You said it. 1033 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 4: But the offense returns everybody, and they even had injuries 1034 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 4: in the offensive line. They get a couple into your 1035 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 4: starters back and once they got kind of a continuity 1036 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 4: on the offensive line late in the year, their offense 1037 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 4: really started to hum. This could be one of the best. 1038 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 4: I think this will be the best offense in the conference. 1039 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 4: They have plenty of weapons and their offense gonna be good. 1040 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 4: The questions on the defense, like you lost your top 1041 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 4: five guys on the defensive line. Brown was really good. 1042 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 4: Robinson went to West Virginia. Triplett went to Georgia, tech, 1043 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 4: your linebackers. You lost eighty three hundred snaps six thousand 1044 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 4: with UTSA. You lost a five year starter, you lost 1045 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 4: one to Colorado, one to West Virginia. Then in the 1046 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 4: second you lost a couple to the NFL, and you 1047 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 4: have to bring no returning starters back. So I had 1048 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 4: a lot of questions about the defense. One thing that 1049 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 4: was really evident last year, and this is all you 1050 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 4: hear Trailer talk about his penalties. They were so on 1051 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,439 Speaker 4: disciplined last year. It was very uncharacteristic of the team. 1052 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 4: That's all he's hampening on. I mean, he is just 1053 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 4: drilling that home. So I think you'll see them be 1054 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 4: much more focused and much more discplin last year. Last 1055 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 4: year they were They had one hundred and thirteen penalties, 1056 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 4: second most in the country. Forty two led to first downs. 1057 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 4: That's six more than anybody else. They were one of 1058 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 4: two teams with one thousand plus penalty yards. I think 1059 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 4: they'll be much more disciplined this year. That'll clean up 1060 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 4: some of the issues they had. This team kind of 1061 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 4: started to surge at the end of the year, but 1062 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 4: it's all about the defense. Will the defense be good 1063 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,879 Speaker 4: enough to balance out the offense. They avoid Memphis, Tulsa, Navy, 1064 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 4: and UAB and schedule Trailers twenty nine and three at 1065 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 4: home sixteen and five in November. They have an easy 1066 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 4: road schedule after Texas A and M. You know, you 1067 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 4: got Tulane the usf Army late in the year when 1068 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 4: Trailer really gets going. So yeah, this is set up 1069 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 4: for a big year that I am picking Utsa to 1070 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 4: make the conference title against USF All right, duck, we're 1071 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 4: almost out of time, so hit us with your angle 1072 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 4: on how to play the Roadrunners. 1073 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, very solid offensive football team. They're really short up 1074 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 6: at all position groups. They have a real luxury at 1075 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 6: the G five level with the short up offensive line 1076 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 6: with depth that very few teams have. So the other 1077 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 6: great thing that they have that nobody's talking about, their 1078 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 6: tight end room is incredible. They have four tight ends 1079 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 6: that are six five, two forty or heavier and they're 1080 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 6: all pass receiving tight ends. So when I look at 1081 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 6: that group, they utilize their tight end group in the 1082 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 6: past receiving department. Who's covering these matchup nightmares Texas State, Temple, 1083 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 6: Rice two Lane, Charlotte ECU, Like, who's covering these guys? 1084 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 6: I just don't see a lot of favorable matchups for 1085 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 6: the defenses that are on this schedule, and so this 1086 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 6: offensive system is going to stress weaknesses in their opponent's 1087 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 6: defenses significantly. I think we'll see improve defensive play. I 1088 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 6: think the penalties which I had in my notes one 1089 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 6: hundred and thirteen penalties for one thousand and fifty four yards, 1090 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 6: the direct result was two or three losses on the 1091 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 6: field that they probably should have won. It directly cost 1092 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 6: them the game against Rice, It directly cost them the 1093 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 6: game against Tulsa. It was embarrassing how undisciplined and poorly 1094 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 6: just the penalties were such a problem that compiled, and 1095 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 6: so to compartmentalize that and isolate that in the offseason 1096 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 6: and really focus on discipline, I think we'll really see 1097 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 6: this team jump. I bet UTSA bet at a price 1098 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 6: that's no longer available, but I bet you TSA to 1099 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 6: win the conference. I think they have a fantastic chance 1100 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 6: of running up the wins in conference play and getting 1101 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 6: to that situation where they're in the game. So I think, 1102 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 6: you know, you figure out what you want to do 1103 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 6: when they get to the conference championship game. If you 1104 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 6: want to ride the ticket or hedge and take profit 1105 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 6: or whatever you want to do. 1106 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: But we're not there yet. 1107 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 6: But yeah, I think UTSA is a fantastic team in 1108 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 6: the American this season, and a very competitive group up 1109 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 6: and down their schedule. I'd lean over the win total 1110 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 6: as well. 1111 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 4: One sentence recaps to Tulane under UTSA over Navy, under 1112 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 4: Army under North Texas long shot off Florida, my future duck, 1113 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 4: what you. 1114 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 6: Got FAU under two lane under Army under North Texas 1115 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 6: long shot UTSA to win the conference. 1116 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, UTSA is my pick to win the conference, as 1117 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,879 Speaker 3: I mentioned in terms of best bet, and I think 1118 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,879 Speaker 3: you can right a lot of wrongs if you hit 1119 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 3: that playoff number. 1120 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: At eighteen to one. 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