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Speaker 1: Hey, there're folks. It is Tuesday, October the twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: We are in our top five on our horror hit list.

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Speaker 1: Today's movie is number four. It is a classic. It

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Speaker 1: is scary, it is goofy, it is silly, it is gross,

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Speaker 1: and it's PG thirteen. Welcome to this episode of Amy

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Speaker 1: and TJ as we continue our deep cuts giving you

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Speaker 1: our countdown to some of the best horror movies. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you've never heard of Roll. This is absolutely one of

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Speaker 1: our most endearing yes horror movies and it's PG thirteen.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it's PG thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, we've rewatched it, and I am standing

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Speaker 3: by that statement.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it's PG thirteen. I'm shocked by it.

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Speaker 3: This thing is scary and it's fun, and those two

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Speaker 3: things don't always go together because it's never deliberately campy

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Speaker 3: or ridiculous. It's just good entertainment and it's just scary

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Speaker 3: enough that you keep going back to it.

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Speaker 1: We have been watching this movie for years and years

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Speaker 1: and years and years and years, and we did not

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Speaker 1: realize it was PG thirteen until we started putting this together.

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Speaker 1: So yesterday essentially, and I said it to you, and

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Speaker 1: you said, what the hell? Because we have you announced.

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Speaker 1: Very early on we started doing this list. TJ completely

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Speaker 1: checks out. If you tell him a movie is PG thirteen,

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Speaker 1: he will not watch a PG thirteen horror movie. And

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Speaker 1: here we are.

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Speaker 2: Here, we are two in our top five.

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Speaker 4: I'm embarrassed, all right.

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Speaker 3: So number four is Drag Me to Hell. And I

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Speaker 3: have to tell you. When this first came out, the

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Speaker 3: name of it turned me off. I thought this is

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Speaker 3: be over the top, ridiculous, not anything I'd want to watch.

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Speaker 2: This movie is amazing. It just I think it nails

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Speaker 3: Terms of course how scary it is, how fun it is,

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Speaker 3: how entertaining it is, how much I love the main characters,

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Speaker 3: and of course we love us some justin long long.

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Speaker 1: This one came out in May of two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 1: It's an hour and thirty nine minutes again, this one

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Speaker 1: PG thirteen, But it is strictly in that horror genre.

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Speaker 4: So what is this one about?

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Speaker 3: Christine Brown has a loving boyfriend and a good job

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Speaker 3: in an effort to impress her boss, she denies an

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Speaker 3: In retaliation, the crone places a curse on Christine, threatening

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Speaker 3: her soul with eternal damnation. Christine seeks a psychic's help

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Speaker 3: to break the curse, but the price to save her

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Speaker 3: soul may be more than she can pay. This movie

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Speaker 3: is so damn good. It changed how I feel in

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Speaker 3: a park garage. It changed how I feel about even

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Speaker 3: turning someone down or upsetting someone. And you and I

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Speaker 3: actually had a moment in our relationship that was a

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Speaker 3: game changer based on this movie.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yes, I remember. There are some things in

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Speaker 1: references you can make in your life that are so

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Speaker 1: and you completely. I didn't have to explain anything. And

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Speaker 1: when you all see this movie, you will understand what

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Speaker 1: So that's what we're talking about. This one rolls I

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Speaker 1: did not realize did this well at the box office

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Speaker 1: forty two million dollars domestically another forty eight point seven

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Speaker 1: million Internationally. This thing made ninety one million dollars on

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Speaker 1: a reportedly thirty million dollar budget. Wow, that's a that's

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Speaker 2: And in two thousand and nine too.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how Look, obviously, horror movies have been

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Speaker 3: I do feel like this type of horror movie this

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Speaker 1: we have to go back into account of how many

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Speaker 1: movies justin Long is in in our top thirty.

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Speaker 2: I had that same thought.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea that he was in as many

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Speaker 3: We weren't using that as a factor, But it turns

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Speaker 1: But he is once again, and you know what he is.

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Speaker 1: We anytime we were discussing this. Anytime we see Justin

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Speaker 3: He's like the Knight, the Knight in shining armor who

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Speaker 3: the the Angenu. She's the female lead in this and

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Speaker 3: the girlfriend to Justin Long, the director of Sam Raimi

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Speaker 3: and Rotten Tomato score?

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Speaker 1: Is this the biggest disparity I think on our list

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Speaker 2: I am shocked by this.

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Speaker 3: I would have thought that the Rotten Tomato score, what

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Speaker 3: the direction that it is. So. The critics gave this

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Speaker 3: a ninety two percent on Rotten Tomatoes. That's about as

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Speaker 3: good as it gets. Audience score sixty two percent. Why

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Speaker 3: to try and bring this score down. I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: How could you what this is such a.

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Speaker 3: Great audience pleaser That's why I could see how the

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Speaker 2: So I'm shocked.

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Speaker 1: and so it's not even a good criticism. It just

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Speaker 1: I don't know why people are so crazy about this movie.

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Speaker 1: You almost be crazy. You got caught like just attacking

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Speaker 1: a criategic criticism. But the critics, at least their consensus

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Speaker 1: on this one is Sam Raimi. Now, the director, Sam

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Speaker 1: Raimi actually mentioned he has some big credits to his name,

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Speaker 1: time director that knows what he's doing. But the critic consensus.

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Speaker 1: Sam Raimi returns to top form with Drag Me to Hell,

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Speaker 1: a frightening, hilarious, delightfully can't be throwright.

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Speaker 4: That's a good way to put it.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that, and we have some critic reviews,

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Speaker 3: and again ninety two percent did really really well. Drag

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Speaker 3: Me to Hell is sometimes funny and often startling horror movie.

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Speaker 2: That is what it wants to be, and that is

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Speaker 1: It throws you off, like you're yelling at the screen

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Speaker 3: Movie stands as the latest in a line of occasional,

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Speaker 4: That's a good way to put it.

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Speaker 1: Yep, the next one here a gooey, frenetic, raucous and

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Speaker 1: Analyzing our economic collapse, yeah, that comes into it as well,

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Speaker 1: But the morality part of it, you do ask yourselves

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Speaker 3: I do agree, you do ask yourself what would I

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Speaker 2: So, Yes, there is a.

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Speaker 3: Big moral dilemma in the central part of this story.

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Speaker 1: She goes against what she knows to be the right

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Speaker 4: Does? It's a core moral question.

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Speaker 3: It's almost as if she unknowingly made a deal with

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Speaker 3: the devil. Yes, Drag me to Hell is the most

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Speaker 2: Agreed, That is a really good way to put it.

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Speaker 4: The next one is good.

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Speaker 3: Not only is it genuinely scary, it's also outrageously funny,

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Speaker 3: and for once, it's intentional.

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Speaker 1: Put it this negative one here, this next one. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously demonology isn't some serious scientific cause like we

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, an old woman who wants a loan puts

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's someone who doesn't watch enough horror movies.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you do your thing. Some of the audience reviews

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Speaker 1: we'll get into here. A lighthearted take on horror that

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Speaker 3: Great half half horror, thriller, dark comedy, must watch. Just

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Speaker 1: Nothing one said, it's so messed up and I absolutely

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Speaker 3: Silly, completely unhinged, disgusting, bad special effects.

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Speaker 1: What I mean, all of those for us, silly check,

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Speaker 1: all in the pro column for us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right. They did it on purpose. It is so deliberate, but.

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Speaker 3: It is a lot of fun if you're in and

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Speaker 3: it's hard to not be in the right mood.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I would say you could watch this.

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Speaker 3: Movie going into any mood you're in, and you will

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Speaker 1: That is a very good This is a if there

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Speaker 1: ever is one. This is a mood boosting horror film.

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Speaker 3: There is a reason why I cannot count how many times, personally, individually,

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Speaker 3: it immediately puts you in a lighthearted mood. You laugh

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Speaker 4: But you know what we have to say, and we'll

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Speaker 4: get into this a little more. But we have to say.

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Speaker 1: Scary without being violent and gory, hence the PG thirteen.

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Speaker 1: What goes with a movie called Drag Me the Hell?

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Speaker 3: Stay here, welcome back, as we talk about number four

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Speaker 3: But it is a fun ride on your way down.

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Speaker 3: We love this movie why it made our list. It's

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Speaker 4: But oh, come on.

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Speaker 2: You've gotta smile on your face while you're horrified.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Even is it missus Goodush? Is that her name? I

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Speaker 1: So again another reason it's on our list, even though

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Speaker 2: Correct. All right, So who's this for?

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Speaker 2: Just there it is scary, like it's scared me.

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Speaker 3: Out, yes, so and who it's not for if if

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Speaker 3: But if you're looking for a traditional horror movie, this

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Speaker 1: I don't think this one's classified as a horror comedy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it does have camping moment, but it's not

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Speaker 1: As long as you are open minded and accept it

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly all right, food drink pairing.

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Speaker 3: We talked about all of the wonderful scenes in this movie.

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Speaker 2: You can add like an apple cake.

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Speaker 3: Bas you can add pecans and cranberries, but you can

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Speaker 3: but it's a it's an apple cake bas as much better.

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Speaker 3: But yes, she brings it much to the discuss of

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Speaker 3: But it's a central part in the movie. So if

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Speaker 2: No, So where do you watch Drag Me to Hell?

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Speaker 2: Right now? You can find it?

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Speaker 4: What you're done with the food picke just the harvest cake?

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Speaker 2: What would you watch with Drag Me to Hell?

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Speaker 1: None of that stuff because it was never in my

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Speaker 2: And of course this is one that I prefer. I

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Speaker 1: Highly, highly highly recommend all the ones in our top five.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and this one is one of our all time favorites.

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Speaker 3: We hope you love it as much as we do

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Speaker 2: It really is, all right. And with that, thank you

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Speaker 2: for listening everyone. I'm Ade Roboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We

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