1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast, and we 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: want to talk about the Israeli hostage ordeal for many 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: of us. I think in the United States we think 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: of it as being over because the living hostages are home. 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: But it is not over. And that's what we want 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: to talk about today. It is not over for the 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: families who are still waiting for their loved ones, their sons, 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: their husbands, their fathers. There is no closure right now, 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: and it may be even worse because many of them 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: are afraid that their loved ones will be forgotten and 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: will not be returned home. And I know they have 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: been speaking with the administration and calling out to the President, 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: who has committed to make sure that these people are 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: connected back with their families. Today we were joined by 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: one of those families, the father of Etai Hen Ruby. Hen, 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me today. 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: We know that your son was one of the He 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: was one of the soldiers on October seventh, Is that correct? 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: Can you take us a little bit through his story? 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I'm a New Yorker. I like to say 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: power outcome of the New York public education system decided 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: after doing the NYU met my wife, we decided to 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: live in Tel Aviv and have three sons. Tai is 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: the middle sibling, so he has an elder and younger sibling. 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: He loved the extra curriculum activities, from basketball to climbing 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: on walls, being a boy scout, any typical kid you 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 2: had bump into. And at the age of eighteen, both 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: my family and my wife's family are Holocaust survivors, so 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: the understanding of protecting the Jewish state, you know, meant 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: a lot to him, and he joined the IDEF. He 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: was in a text division and on that fatal October seventh, 33 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: he was protecting the seas fire on the board of Gaza. 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: They got ambushed, but they did what they were supposed 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: to do. They protected and saved a lot of Jewish 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: lives from Valuy. Terrible fate that tend those Tairovists also 37 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: came both anti tank missiles and utualized the tank after 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: a few hours of fighting. And we were in limbo 39 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: for a number of days not down what happened to him, 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: And only on Thursday, five days after, we got a 41 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: knock on the door saying, well we got to the tank. 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: Inside the tank it's a squad of four people and 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 2: one of them was killed, pinned down inside, three others 44 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: missing an action, and it Tie was one of the 45 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: twelve US citizens that was taking hostage. He is the 46 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: youngest hostage of having a US citizenship. He ties battle 47 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: and his team ended on that fatal October seventh, But 48 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: since then a new battle began. That is the battle 49 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: of two hundred and fifty five families wanted to get 50 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: their loved ones back in fluting twelve US families and 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: that has been seven hundred and fifty nine days ago, 52 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: and were still fighting to get him back. 53 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: You noted that you wear a shirt with his name 54 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: and the number of days that he's been missing. 55 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: That's indeed, it's a way for us to kind of 56 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: emphasize the point each day that passes by. And we've 57 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: been to the White House too often in the last 58 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: two years advocating for the little lease of TCO citizens, 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: including all the other hostages. We have been able to 60 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 2: see back two hundred and forty seven osages, but there's 61 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: still eight left behind excluding my son, still the only 62 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: US citizen left behind in captivity. 63 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: You've praised President Trump for his commitment to do it. 64 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: But I know that you also have said, you know 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: this was you were hoping this would happen in the 66 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: first hundred days. You are you still feel like the 67 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: priority should be US citizens. Your son is still has 68 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: still not been returned home. Do you feel confident that 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 1: the administration is committed to getting him home. 70 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. So we got to know President Trump, and you 71 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: know how he looks at this. Even in his first 72 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: administration from people that know him, he took a special 73 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: interest in US hostages. It should be a liability, not 74 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: an asset, to take any US citizen any place, and 75 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 2: there should be consequences with those people that take US citizens. 76 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: And when this administration began and with the President detailing 77 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: the America First policy, which put an emphasis on bringing 78 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: back US citizens that were held hostage or unlawfully detained, 79 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: and this administration has done a fabulous job. Dozens of 80 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: US citizens from all over have been able to come back. 81 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: I think it was about two weeks ago we had 82 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: a US citizen from Afghanistan held bet It Taliban that 83 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: was able to come back. So we know that the 84 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: President cares deeply about this, as well as the Vice 85 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: President that we met. I think ten days ago and 86 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: Segotary Ribio and of course Special Envoy Gov and child 87 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: Kushna that I've been spearheading these efforts and they said, 88 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: we won't give up. We'll get everybody back. That is 89 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: a commitment. That is the deal that was signed. It 90 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: was signed on forty eight hostages to come back. I 91 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: wasn't on forty or twenty five. It was on forty eight. 92 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: And until today we've seen forty come out. So they're 93 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: still eight on account at four and I could shay, 94 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: you've been today texting mister Wickcoff and mister Kushna. They 95 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: both gave me the commitment that the jobs out there. 96 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: Do you so you believe that those eight will come home? 97 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: Oh he's out face. Uh it's pretty hard. Doctor goes 98 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: through these two years off hell without it. 99 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: Why do you think they think it's been such a 100 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: slow process. We believed that. I mean, we were expecting 101 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: this a couple of weeks ago for everyone to come 102 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: at the same time. Why do you think there's been 103 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: a delay in some of these people coming back. 104 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's come on. You know, they have 105 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: a different compass than we do. They have a very 106 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: good idea where all the hostages. 107 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: Are you do believe that they know where they are? 108 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not buying that they don't know. Well, 109 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 2: just let's not forget. They were the ones that kidnapped 110 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: and abducted them, so they know where they put them, 111 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: so they should have a pretty good idea when they 112 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: stashed them. And they of course would like to lead 113 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: gain control of the areas that the idea of left 114 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: in order to be in a better position when negotiating 115 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: from the second phase, which we you know, have been 116 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: a vocal about that. We believe that the second fashould 117 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: not begin befirst before the first phase has been completed, 118 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: which details the evil leies so all of the twenty 119 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: eight hostages. 120 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: Do you feel that the Biden administration was working as 121 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: hard as the Trump administration was. Did you have meetings 122 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: with the Biden administration? 123 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: Yes, we had a very good meetings with the Biden administration. 124 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: Decided to keep this a bipartisan issue, which you think 125 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: it should be. But to be honest, you know, the 126 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: game plan that the Biden administation had was that it 127 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: Ronaldson on see those hostages come out via Islael and 128 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: the Boston and that didn't pan out, and we thought 129 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: that should be a plan be and you know, going 130 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: to the administration and asking them was plan B. And 131 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: there was never a plan being And I didn't understand why. 132 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: You know, it was such a long time that went by, 133 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: and the previous administration unfortunately did not single out the 134 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: US citizens and wanted to find a way to get 135 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: them out. Uh. With the Trump administration, Uh, you know, 136 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: I could say both sides, we asked this to keep 137 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: this a bipartisan issue, and indeed we asked, you know, 138 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: mister Sullivan to immediately engage was his counterpart, which did happen. 139 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: And as such, we saw that deal happened in January, 140 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: which was very important. That was the first phase of 141 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: this phase, you could call it. And we saw the 142 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: President and his ability to bring the sides together and 143 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: get that deal to the finish line. And what we 144 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: saw two weeks ago, you know, again the President with 145 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: his ability at the UN putting together all of the 146 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: al leaders together, building a coalition that brought Comas to 147 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: the negotiation table. And also mister Kushna that has his 148 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: history of the able Amaccords on being able to ban 149 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: all the adult players together. 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You noted that you grew 177 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: up in New York, so you are a native New Yorker. 178 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: That's that's your hometown. You watched after what happened on 179 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: October seventh with Columbia and the marches and the Free 180 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: Palestine and the River to the Sea, all of that 181 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: that was going on in New York. Why is your 182 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: reaction to that? Do you think that slowed things down 183 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: politically in the United States under the Biden Biden administration. 184 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't think it had that much 185 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: of an impact. I you know, I know as in 186 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: New York, you know we nine to eleven. You know, 187 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: when New Yorkers stand together. I think also on this topic, 188 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: you know, when it's also a little bit about educating 189 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: the people like I would sometimes, you know, Golund and 190 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: talk to people that would be protesting, And I would 191 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: start off by saying something very simple, are you a 192 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: patriotic US citizen? The question, you know, it's always yeah, 193 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: of course I am. And I would ask them, do 194 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: you know on October seventh, forty seven of our fellow 195 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: Americans were killed by Hamas? Are you aware of that fact? 196 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: Most often than not people and were not away of 197 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: that fact? And I think, you know, it's a good 198 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: way to start the conversation and explain that those forty 199 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: seven citizens deserve justice and they are victims of any 200 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: tailist organization that killed over two thousand people and Israel 201 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: in one day. That's a very large number. And just 202 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: by taking even deceased people and using them as negotiation chips, 203 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: like what religion advocates for that Like, I challenge any 204 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: platform that I go on, you'll find me a email 205 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: that would say Islam speaks about making dead people and 206 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: using them as negotiationships like these are people that have 207 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: done stuff that is way out of you know, out 208 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: of the line of what any religion should talk about. 209 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: And we all at the end children of God, Like 210 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: it's not a competition who is sufflatable. We walked this 211 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: planet together dead things you should in p do it well. 212 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: It is interesting because we've seen quite a division in 213 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: the United States over religion. As much as people don't 214 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: want to talk about religion, they have separated people into Christianity, Islam, 215 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: and Judaism, and they have said that this is good 216 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: and this is bad. And there seems to be a 217 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: real true rise of anti Semitism. And I mean we're 218 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: in the midst of this right now seeing Nick Fointes 219 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: on the Tucker Carlson Show, and you have the Heritage 220 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: Foundation that says we are okay with this, and then 221 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: they backtrack on that when you I mean you said 222 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: you come from a family who lived through the Holocaust, 223 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: knowing that you come from family members that saw the 224 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: worst of the worst. What would they say today as 225 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: they see this happening in the United States? 226 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: They would be shocked. Yeah, I think I think it's 227 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: a bigger topic. You know about today how people consume 228 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: and flage the opinion, and that's typically based on a 229 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: TikTok of forty five seconds. You know, it's not I 230 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: think the most educated way to look about it. And 231 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: it's very easy to put people into buckets people are 232 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: much more complicated than that. As I said, I grew 233 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: up New York City public education. You know, we grew 234 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: up together. We didn't care about religion. And my best 235 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: friend was from Tucky. I needed. I would go to 236 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: his place to play. I would take off my shoes 237 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: at the house, and you know, I thought I was 238 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: respecting them. That was fine. And then he would come 239 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: over to my place and I know that he would 240 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: eat kosher almost with one another. You know, we just 241 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: want to play baseball, and you just enjoy ourselves. So 242 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, how we got to where 243 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: we got today, And it goes back to what I said. 244 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: You know, we, you know, acknowledge the fact that people 245 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: that majority of the people just want you know, simple 246 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: life for themselves, even the people in Gaza. You know, 247 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure that they is hunger in Gaza. You know, 248 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: hamas you know, has been taking that food and have 249 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: been you know, taking it and selling it on the 250 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: black market. And I'm showing that many people that just 251 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: want a simple life as you and I just likes 252 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: to do, and we need to take those extremists, get 253 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: them out, and you know, find ways to be able 254 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: to talk to one another. Like I said, I'm going 255 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: to protesters in Colombia and just saying, look, you know, 256 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: we all us citizens, we have you know, a few 257 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: things in common before looking at it that a different. 258 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: There has been a real demonization of Israel, and I 259 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: think you are absolutely correct. It is the fifteen seconds 260 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: on TikTok. The people who haven't ever been to Israel 261 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: don't understand it. Can you take us a little bit 262 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: inside of what life in Israel is and the freedom 263 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: that you have there. I think we spoke recently to 264 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: the Israeli ambassador to the United States and he came 265 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: on and he was talking about the fact that we 266 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: as Americans don't know what it was like having to 267 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: protect before October seventh, and what Israel always goes through 268 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: to make sure that the citizens are safe there. But 269 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: on the ground, it is a very free and beautiful society, 270 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: isn't it. 271 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Tel Aviv is very much like the New York 272 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: I tell people that come to Tel Aviv, you should 273 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: go to New York for us. Take the subway, you know, 274 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: a couple of times, just to get the idea of people, 275 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: you know, on top of one another. It's you know, 276 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: there's a lot of high tech, so there's a lot 277 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: of the younger population that is in high tech positions. 278 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: And you know, Bill a Valley viblent positive on a community, 279 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,239 Speaker 2: we have a problem. We live in a bad neighborhood, 280 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: which means that you need to take care of yourself. 281 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: And that means that at the age of eighteen, going 282 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: to the army is mandatory, which kind of is a 283 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: different process than in the States where you go to college. 284 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: So you have to go well much more quicker. You know, 285 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: you get a gun and you know you need to 286 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: know how to protect yourself. But it creates a very 287 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: vibe and community where in most occasions and the idea 288 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: if you go to some technology unit and you gain 289 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: a profession and then you kind of use that as 290 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: a catapult to build your profession in civilian life, and uh, 291 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's a very beautiful community. It has also 292 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: a lot of contrasts where we have in Jerusalem all 293 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: the main litligions are there, which creates a lot of 294 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: tension and he as well, it's difficult sometimes to be 295 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: able to talk to your neighbors and get along. But 296 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: I think at the end, the majority of the people 297 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: just want to get along with one another, as you 298 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: know I did in New York City, and I think 299 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: that's where we should spend on an effort on. And 300 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: what has happened here in Isael the last two years 301 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: is not good. I think that even you know, the 302 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: is Veelli government has too many extremists instead about the 303 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 2: people that are more in the center and finding ways 304 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: to speak to about one another, which is unfortunate. And 305 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: in the United States as well, somehow wisdom became a 306 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: partisan issue instead of being a bipartisan issue as it 307 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: always has been for decades. And I think it's something 308 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: that also, you know, the is Vali government needs to 309 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: think about how lea position is well in the United 310 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: States and hopefully that would also change of it, maybe 311 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: the anti Semitism we see happening in the United States today. 312 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: What do you think could change? What do you mean 313 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: explain that? What do you think could change that? 314 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: I think, you know, Isdelle should position itself inside of 315 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 2: the United States something that is a bipartisan concept that 316 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: for decades, it's always out of very high approval within 317 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: the United States population. We see a change in that, 318 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: specifically with the younger generation, and I think you know, 319 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: there needs to be more worked. That needs to be done, 320 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: not to educate bet how similar the A is, the 321 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: early democratic state is to the United States and found 322 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: the same values as in the United States, and being 323 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: a blatant for the United States and what's happening in 324 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 2: the Middle East. That's the yelling democracy. And I think 325 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: that is the benefit of having this alliance with one another. 326 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 2: You know, I'm both the US and as the early citizens. 327 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: I could speak to that. But sometimes in the last 328 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 2: couple of years, I've seen why the younger population has 329 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: gone down different paths. Simple dad just wants its kid back, 330 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 2: you know. It's a little bit about my pay late, 331 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: but something to think about. 332 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: I think. I mean, I think we've all been stunned 333 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: by the I guess it's like the infiltration of this messaging. 334 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: It's coming on both sides. I see it with the 335 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: Free Palestine movement that has not been about freeing people. 336 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: It's been about it's truly a movement of hate, I believe. 337 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: And I see it on the right too. I see 338 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: it with the nick Fuinteses of the world that are 339 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: out there saying hideous, hideous things, and people took our. 340 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 2: Scene, you know, another's you know, talker calls and then 341 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: talk like that a couple of years ago. 342 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: Right exactly exactly, So how That's what I just keep 343 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: asking myself, how is this happening? What is behind this? 344 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: And I don't understand. I don't understand what's behind it. 345 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: And I've said this on the program a few times, 346 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: so some of our audience members will will know the story. 347 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: But in twenty eighteen, we interviewed Holocaust survivors that lived 348 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: in the United States and I sat with a older 349 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: man and his wife who his wife had been in 350 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: one concentration camp and he had been in two different 351 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: concentration camps. So he was talking. She was very quiet, 352 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: she said almost nothing, and as I walked out the door, 353 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: she grabbed onto my arm and looked me in the eyes. 354 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: And the only thing she said the whole time, and 355 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: she said, they hate the Jews, and they'll do again. 356 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: And I remember so naively thinking this would never happen again. 357 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: And that's why today when I see this, it breaks 358 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: my heart because I think of her, and I think 359 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: of that it was not just, it wasn't nasty, it 360 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: was fear, and it was well founded. 361 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could show you know my family's background. You know, 362 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 2: my dad his education ended at the age of sutteing 363 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: fleeing from the Nazis, and he came to the States 364 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: late nineteen fifties, didn't have much in his pocket. He 365 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: became a Union walker insuction, would wake up five in 366 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: the morning, put you know, blent on the table. My 367 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: mom was an avon lady. And if you remember that concept, 368 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: many many yeah. And you know, we you know, made it, 369 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: made it together, and we have begged neighbors you know, 370 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: from different origins as well. We knew and I don't 371 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: live together. And it was a beautiful time you go. 372 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: You know, I remember it as a kid. You would 373 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: go down till late at night and everybody would be 374 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: outside on the sidewalks and we're playing baseball or catch 375 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: up whatever, and we would get along with one with 376 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: one another. And somehow that kind of disappeared from a 377 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 2: lot of the cities in the United States where everyone 378 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: is kind of like secluded one with the other. Uh. Again, 379 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: you know, my topic is, uh the fact that you know, 380 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: we are US citizens. We grew up in the States. 381 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: You know, I tie my son did what it was 382 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: supposed to do, protecting people simple people and he was 383 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: taking kidnapped and that was like two years ago, and 384 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: we just want him back. Uh, you know, we touched 385 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 2: a little bit about the topic about you know, deceased, 386 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: you know, and what it means. So we were told 387 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: the year ago that he was most likely killed and 388 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: sometimes people don't get it, like, you know, what, what 389 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: do you want him back? From the Jewish religion, and 390 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: the belief is the soul lives for tonnity, so just 391 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: and the body is a vessel and when the soul 392 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: needs to move on to the next phase and the body, 393 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: you know, we say less than peace. What does that mean? 394 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: It means that the body needs to be in a 395 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: place that the soul can move forward. And nobody could 396 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: say that's the case. What's the tie? And we want 397 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: him back. When we met mister Whitcoff the first time 398 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 2: he shared with us that was we're a part of 399 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 2: the same Matt club. He lost the son about a 400 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: decade and a half ago, and he said, you know, 401 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: I get you because I also lost the son. And 402 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: my wife flipped at him, Puss I can and said, 403 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: you know the sweet cough almost you know why, because 404 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 2: when you feel sad, you want to be with him. 405 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: You have a place to go to. We don't. And 406 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: you know, it took half a minute to pass us, 407 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: you know that. And he looked back to her and 408 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: she's like, I understand now. And I think the President 409 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: himself at the beginning also it was difficult for him 410 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: to understand the concept. But you hear him today speaking 411 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: so vocally about the need, you know, to bring back 412 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: off so that that would kill because that's the closure. 413 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: And I'm a dead man walking saving my son, a 414 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 2: saving a living. As you say, he will save me, 415 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: and he will save my family as well as the 416 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: others that want done back. And hopefully, you know, this 417 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 2: advestation will keep on doing what it wants, what it 418 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: needs to do when a is committed to do meeting 419 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 2: me face to face, looking me in the eye and 420 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: telling me we'll get your boy back. And the President 421 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: yesterday called the family from Long Island that that some 422 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 2: came back, and that was one of the things that 423 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: they asked him. When he called. He said, look, job's 424 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: not done this till another US citizen he needs also 425 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: to come back. And the President gave his commitment that'll 426 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: make that happen. 427 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: I believe that you know my my experience with President 428 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: Trump has been that family is so important, and I 429 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: will this is something I haven't shared before, but when 430 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: I was running for office, we went to mar A 431 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: Lago and we sat with the press for about twenty minutes. 432 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: My dad was very sick at the time. We lost 433 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: him just a few months after that meeting, but he 434 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: was very sick, and I was kind of holding his 435 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: arm so that he could stand and talk to the president. 436 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: And it was the first thing that President Trump noticed. 437 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: He said, you care so much about him, So you 438 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: really love him, don't you. And I think that was 439 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: just he said it out loud because family is so important, 440 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: and I think that's how he looks at people. How 441 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: he determines how people feel about others is how you 442 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: treat your own family. And I think part of having 443 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 1: you here today was so that people could have that 444 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: connection and know that you talk about your family being 445 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: patriotic and joyful, and here you are, what an amazing 446 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: father after all this time to continue you wear the shirt, 447 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: you're out there every day, you talk on the phone 448 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: with the administration weekly. You are not giving up what 449 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: to your your other two sons when they live look 450 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: at you. They must be so amazed by you. 451 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he he's a middle kid, the sandwich. 452 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: I don't know about you. I'm also a sandwich with 453 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: he's the more difficult one. So you know, they always 454 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: wanted to find ways have one. I have a middle kid. 455 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: So then the ones that always had the ones, you know, 456 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: checking Boundley. So as you know, I said, I'm a 457 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: New York I'm a pile out, a New York Knicks fan. 458 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: So the eldest he became a Knicks fan, of course, 459 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: and he tied. You looked at me and looked at 460 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: the elder siblings said, uh, he became a Celtics fan. 461 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: You know, like that's hilarious. 462 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: Of course. 463 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: Well, you know we would be sitting now on the couch, 464 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: you know, basketball season, just thought it. We would be 465 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: talking about the Knicks and the Celtics and what will 466 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: be going on. And that's why he's missed. And you know, 467 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: we have a dinner table where we have an empty chair, 468 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, everybody feels it and we all 469 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: just want to be able to be as whole in 470 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 2: order to move on. So that's why we advocate and 471 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: want and. 472 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: Back do the other boys. Are they in the eye? 473 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: No, No, So the youngest is fifteen and the eldest 474 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: is twenty four. 475 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so the youngest is not at this time. Mad 476 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: you join when you're eighteen? Is that what you said? 477 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Eighteen two, two and a half years. 478 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next 479 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. What's it like for him 480 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: to watch this? I mean at fifteen, I have a 481 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: daughter that's sixteen. I have a daughter that's fourteen. They 482 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: have been surprisingly for me, they have been so in 483 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: tune with the hate and we're they're very they go 484 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: to Christian school and they're very faithful. They're very involved 485 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: in our religion. And I think that I look at 486 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: our religion, the Christianity and your religion as being a 487 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: religions of love, and really I think religion should be 488 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: the number one focus should be love. And they've seen 489 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: so much hate. Or your younger son, how has that 490 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: affected him? He lost his brother and now there is this, 491 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you're bombarded on social media with this hate. 492 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: How do how does he react? And how do you 493 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: think we switch that? 494 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a shelter. And as much as possible 495 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 2: from that. You know, he does have a normal routine. 496 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: You know, high school you know has its own challenges 497 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: as you know, Yes, and we have a support system. 498 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: So the cuss and the blessing is the fact that 499 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 2: jun online and fifty five families have become a new family, 500 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: families of hostages, and within that you find, you know, 501 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: those that you are able to use as a support 502 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: system because they understand things that we need to encounter 503 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: as well. So those that he is able to speak 504 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: to and from his own age and talk about things 505 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: that only those that are going through that can understand. 506 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 2: So that is the you know, cuss and the blessing 507 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: of what happened to us. 508 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: Is there anything that you would say to I mean, 509 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: you noted that Tucker Carlson has seemed to change. For 510 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: people who are suddenly speaking in this negative way, what 511 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: would your message be to them? 512 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so to be honest, you know, talking and I 513 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: you know we text every once in a while. I 514 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: thought to give them a different viewpoint. I like to 515 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 2: think that maybe we could agree upon such as being 516 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: a patiotic, you a citizen? What does that mean when 517 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 2: it comes to us sausages being held against their will? 518 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: And you know where the United States should have an 519 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: obligation to support that. You know, we can disagree about 520 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: other things, but I think on that topic we agreed upon. 521 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: And I just you know, like you said, being a 522 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: good Christian is looking at the good, looking at the love. 523 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: You know, there's enough hate going on. You know. The Christianity, 524 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: you know, does come from the Old Testament, which is Judyism. 525 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: So that a lot of uh shand values one what's 526 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: the other? So I would say to talk, you know, 527 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: I think what what makes us more all similar than 528 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: what makes us diffoot? 529 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, we are forever connected. I would agree with that, 530 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: And I just want to say that we look at 531 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: what you do every day, and we look at the 532 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: families who have lost people and the families who have 533 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: even the hostages that come home that go on to 534 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: live their life. We know that they are also forever changed. 535 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: And our prayers are with you. We are thinking of 536 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: you all the time. I want you to know that 537 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: it is not the things that you see that seem hateful. 538 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: There are so many more of us who are praying 539 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: for you every day and want to make sure that 540 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: Eatype comes home. 541 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: God blessed, Thank him for saying. 542 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: That absolutely and I appreciate you coming on today. God 543 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: bless you Ruby Hen. We appreciate you, Thank you, Thank 544 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: you all for listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For 545 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: this episode and others. Go to tutordisonpodcast dot com. 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