Speaker 1: Like Jeremy Allen White and people like that are always
Speaker 1: hanging around, and it's just.
Speaker 2: Like not me googling who Jeremy?
Speaker 1: And what that guy? Okay, okay, bear guy bear grills,
Speaker 1: mister bear, mister bear, not Paddington Bear, the only bear
Speaker 1: that matters. Paddington.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for finally acknowledging that after all
Speaker 2: these years.
Speaker 1: Wait until he does a full spread in his underwear. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. That's would you be?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, where's the line for you with Paddington
Speaker 3: AI images? You know, like, would you would you care
Speaker 3: if someone did a Calvin Kleine Paddington Bear? I would
Speaker 3: be furious.
Speaker 2: He's a child, is a small Boydton. We just don't
Speaker 2: know about that because bear years and human years.
Speaker 1: I don't like not to be a creep, So we
Speaker 1: don't know for sure.
Speaker 2: We don't know for sure, but even okay, let's say
Speaker 2: Paddington is a full adult. He is a sexual, so
Speaker 2: we don't need to be sexualizing him.
Speaker 1: Shout out the ace community exactly. So anyway, June, Hello,
Speaker 1: how's it going. Good to see you, June, Good to
Speaker 1: see you too. This is Caitlin Durante who's guest co
Speaker 1: hosting today? Hi, nice to meet you.
Speaker 2: Nice to you too.
Speaker 3: She co hosts The Bechdel Cast with Jamie Loftus and
Speaker 3: is like, also a great.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I feel like we'll all get along swimmingly.
Speaker 3: We were just talking about Paddington and just a bunch
Speaker 3: of Paddington stuff anyway.
Speaker 4: Is that is that new movie coming out soon? Are
Speaker 4: you talking about like Paddington, like the movie?
Speaker 1: The movie?
Speaker 5: Ye?
Speaker 1: Well yeah. I brought up Jeremy Allen White from The
Speaker 1: Bear and Caitlyn's like who, And I'm like the guy
Speaker 1: from the Bear and She's like, the only bear is Paddington.
Speaker 1: And then would you what do you think of sexualized
Speaker 1: images of Paddington made made with Ai? And that was definitely.
Speaker 4: Anyway, He's just a big He's a baby.
Speaker 1: He's a pure child, I know.
Speaker 3: And I had to play shitty online Devil's Advocate on
Speaker 3: my wood? Is that actually articulated? And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: it's like there's bear years. I'm like, and I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to be a person on.
Speaker 1: A Jubilee video where I'm like, so there is no
Speaker 1: objective fact.
Speaker 4: We are making Paddington bear porn to make a very
Speaker 4: important point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know ye to discover what that point is.
Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty two, Episode five of The Daily Site Geist, a
Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. Look this.
Speaker 3: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 3: into America's shared consciousness.
Speaker 1: And oh what a day to be.
Speaker 3: Looking into America's shared consciousness because we've got a little
Speaker 3: bit of everything.
Speaker 1: It is Friday, bank. Fuck it's Friday, April fourth.
Speaker 3: That means it's National Vitamin C Day, not the band's
Speaker 3: jeep four by four Day, National Chicken court on blue Day, National.
Speaker 1: School Librarian Day, shout out miss.
Speaker 3: Barkley, my school librarian when I was just a young ute,
Speaker 3: you know, in kindergarten, and put me on to the
Speaker 3: power of books. She said, maybe you like Pee Wee Scouts,
Speaker 3: And I did love Pee Wee Scouts, and then my
Speaker 3: love of books began from there, and then I only
Speaker 3: started reading nonfiction.
Speaker 1: It became a weirdo anyway. It's also National walk around
Speaker 1: Things Day. I don't that doesn't make sense and not.
Speaker 2: As ground things.
Speaker 1: Yeah fuck it.
Speaker 3: It had like an image of like a traffic cone
Speaker 3: with like a bunch of lumber in the road as
Speaker 3: an obstruction doesn't seem like a good thing to celebrate.
Speaker 1: Librarians and chicken Cordon blue though, yes I'm there.
Speaker 3: Who am I I'm Myles Gray aka the Lord of
Speaker 3: lankersam the North Hollywood show Gun with No Gun because
Speaker 3: you got guns, you can have gun problems and also.
Speaker 1: Experimental black and Theese artists Ye Boy Kusama, and I
Speaker 1: am thrilled to be joined today by my guest co host,
Speaker 1: a brilliant comedian, a brilliant teacher, a brilliant lover of cinema.
Speaker 1: How well, just check their.
Speaker 3: Fucking master's degree in film. That's how you'll know they
Speaker 3: respect the art, they respect the medium. If you need
Speaker 3: help with an idea, comedic writing, or otherwise, I would
Speaker 3: say to hit this person though, because they offer that
Speaker 3: kind of support.
Speaker 1: And guess what. They also host a tremendous podcast let's
Speaker 1: already know, called The Bechdel Cast, and as Jack always says,
Speaker 1: our favorite and a grammable name.
Speaker 2: Right, I get the most grammable name in the English language.
Speaker 1: I think how I would say qualifies it. It could
Speaker 1: be Latin dancer Uti, it could be nine tit Dracula.
Speaker 6: Oh, it can be Caitlin d Titanic, Wait, Lauren Dan,
Speaker 6: Lauren Ded Titanic. All of these are encapsulate the same
Speaker 6: person who contains multitudes.
Speaker 1: Please welcome my guests, go host Daylan direct E. We woo,
Speaker 1: we woo.
Speaker 2: And speaking of Titanic, I just have to throw a
Speaker 2: quick plug in here at the very top because I
Speaker 2: am hosting a Titanic themed stand up comedy show in
Speaker 2: New York City. Ever fucking heard of that?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up right now, they'll hold on.
Speaker 2: It's on April fifteenth. Why because that's the day Titanic sank.
Speaker 2: And is that morbid to like commemorate that with a
Speaker 2: comedy show? Maybe? I don't care. I love Titanic. So
Speaker 2: any any people in the New York area or hey,
Speaker 2: travel to New York if you must, come see me
Speaker 2: do stand up and there's gonna be Titanic trivia and
Speaker 2: Titanic shits and jokes and all kinds of stuff April
Speaker 2: fifteenth at Union Hall in Brooklyn. And then also when
Speaker 2: I'm on the East coast, I'm gonna be doing shows
Speaker 2: in State College, Pennsylvania. Why because that's where my family
Speaker 2: lives and I'm gonna be there, just.
Speaker 1: Chin to kill two birds with one stone.
Speaker 3: A for a second, isn't there like a bar in
Speaker 3: like Long Island City that has like an out of
Speaker 3: nowhere Titanic bathroom?
Speaker 2: Yes, it is called fuck I forget what the bar
Speaker 2: is called. It's called like the Baroness or something. And
Speaker 2: Blake Wexler, that's how I know. And okay, I fucking
Speaker 2: posted videos of that bathroom first, and where's the credit?
Speaker 2: Where's the credit?
Speaker 1: But yes, another white guy skating on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me about it anyway. So yes, I'm going
Speaker 2: to be in on the East Coast in April doing
Speaker 2: shows in State College in New York, and I need
Speaker 2: everyone to come to those peason thank you.
Speaker 1: And you know you asked me if I ever heard
Speaker 1: of New York. I had it. I just googled it.
Speaker 2: Okay, what'd you find?
Speaker 1: That's where they did nine to eleven. Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is just stuff you miss in
Speaker 1: history class, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Well, revisionist history in American schools, am I right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Let me know what you thought of Loose Change. I'm
Speaker 3: more curiously you thought about that documentary.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Caitlin. We are thrilled to be joined. I am
Speaker 1: especially thrilled to be joined by somebody you.
Speaker 3: Look, this is the beauty about being a cool person
Speaker 3: on the internet. Sometimes you meet other cool people from
Speaker 3: the internet and you only know their account, and then
Speaker 3: you meet them in real life.
Speaker 1: And you go, I love this fucking person. They have
Speaker 1: the best energy. Is like, it's even better than what
Speaker 1: I thought it would be. Look, most of you probably
Speaker 1: know her from maybe her podcast hosting the podcast Western Kabuki.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know her from you know her fucking fire
Speaker 1: social media accounts. I think most people probably do. And
Speaker 1: if you don't, you should learn up and we will
Speaker 1: get to that handle at the end of the show.
Speaker 1: Or look, you might know her as the social media
Speaker 1: manager for the Onion. All I have to.
Speaker 3: Say is this person is very special in the first time. Yes, please,
Speaker 3: welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Ju Thank you so much for having me. June, what's up?
Speaker 1: It was just so wild I could I didn't believe.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe how quick how easily I fanned out
Speaker 3: on you when we met in Austin. But I did
Speaker 3: when I was like wait, June, and then I was
Speaker 3: like wait, Juniper.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah yeah, And I had never
Speaker 4: so I don't like know if that's like a video
Speaker 4: podcast normally, but I don't like watch podcasts. I'm not
Speaker 4: this is this is not enormous, so I'm not like
Speaker 4: a video podcast watcher, and like, yeah, I know the
Speaker 4: daily zeitgeist. So when I heard you guys, I was like,
Speaker 4: oh shit, like you you both because I met you
Speaker 4: and Jack, Yeah, that was weird.
Speaker 1: I had so much fun.
Speaker 3: Jack and I were so geeked out after We're like,
Speaker 3: I was so happy to tell you guys about like
Speaker 3: super tasting and oh I know that, Yeah, I know
Speaker 3: I And I honestly thought I was like, she may
Speaker 3: have some kind of genetic superpower where she has a
Speaker 3: super palette that food companies pay her for rather than
Speaker 3: a skill that can be developed, almost like a trade. Anyway, Absolutely, June,
Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us. We are going
Speaker 3: to get to know you a little bit better. But
Speaker 3: first usually I'm gonna run down some of the stories
Speaker 3: that are so fucking painful that it's probably easier just
Speaker 3: to tell people the headlines. And if you want to
Speaker 3: do some psychic, psychic damage to yourself, you can look
Speaker 3: into it. But you know what, there's only one huge
Speaker 3: story to really talk about today that's taking up all
Speaker 3: of the air, and those are these motherfucking tariffs that
Speaker 3: Trump just dropped on our asses on Tuesday or the
Speaker 3: worlds are sorry Wednesday, and we're now starting to come in.
Speaker 3: Things are coming into focus. Some think it's stupid. Most
Speaker 3: people think it's stupid. Others would be like, no, this
Speaker 3: is very intentional and I can we can tell you why.
Speaker 3: So I think we're gonna touch on that. We'll also
Speaker 3: touch in with maybe Bill Burr. He was recently someone
Speaker 3: tried to kind of gotcha him at a recent appearance
Speaker 3: at the Mark Twain Prize event where Conan received something
Speaker 3: at the Kennedy Center. He just kind of wasn't happy
Speaker 3: having it in typical Bill Burr fashion. And we'll also
Speaker 3: talk about a trailer for a new movie, because you
Speaker 3: know what movies about. No need fucking dinosaurs. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: they've gotten that boring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I learned in school in my master's program.
Speaker 1: Like their history is boring.
Speaker 4: They got to set up a little bit like, yeah,
Speaker 4: AI is going to take over. We're not going to
Speaker 4: have actual like school soon the way like the Department
Speaker 4: of education is going, So what better way to teach
Speaker 4: people than what like wrinkling and some like fiction. You know,
Speaker 4: it's more exciting, It's way more fun.
Speaker 1: Don't don't. Don't think about the fucking spread of communism
Speaker 1: with a panic attack. The fucking US had no, no,
Speaker 1: they were fucking dynasty. I also I also love that
Speaker 1: this could be a version of history where people like, exactly, man,
Speaker 1: that's why we lost nom because the via cam had
Speaker 1: goddamn velocirapord. That's why we didn't discover that technology yet. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: All right, Well let's get into it, June. What is
Speaker 1: something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 1: What you're into right now?
Speaker 4: So, I mean, I'm kind of like a politics pervert.
Speaker 4: I am like always every single day for the last
Speaker 4: like fifteen years of my life, been following day to
Speaker 4: day politics. So I'm just gonna skip over, like, especially
Speaker 4: because you know, it's all about the tariffs right now.
Speaker 4: So I've been like searching some stuff about the terriffs.
Speaker 4: But then like the first non recent non tariffs thing
Speaker 4: that I googled was the I think it was in
Speaker 4: the twenty sixteen primary. A couple of days ago. I
Speaker 4: poured my friend a beer and it was the head
Speaker 4: was like so bad. It was like fifty percent beer
Speaker 4: fifty percent. And my friend was like, you just gave
Speaker 4: me the Hillary Clinton poor And I was like, wait,
Speaker 4: what are you talking about? And then she told me
Speaker 4: to look up the Hillary Clinton beer poor. And there's
Speaker 4: like a really famous picture of her that I totally
Speaker 4: forgot about, totally memory hold, where she like, is that
Speaker 4: one of those Have you ever been to one of those?
Speaker 1: Those? Uh sometimes are at restaurants where you can pour
Speaker 1: your own beer.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like, yeah, like where you put like
Speaker 3: a card in that like sort of tabs up whatever
Speaker 3: you yes, exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So I think Hillary had to have been
Speaker 4: at something like that. And she poured a little bit
Speaker 4: of her own beer and she like triumphantly holds up
Speaker 4: half beer, half head and she looks so thrilled, so
Speaker 4: excited that she does like the worst poor of all time.
Speaker 3: It looks like almost AI propaganda, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like I don't know why there is like a like
Speaker 3: the coloring too, my ammusing is this real? But it
Speaker 3: really does look like a toddler like just poured a beer,
Speaker 3: Like look, I did beer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's so uppy.
Speaker 4: It like, Okay, it does actually look like or some
Speaker 4: ship made that Like it's doesn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah that AI sort of feel to it, But no,
Speaker 3: this is very much is like even though the Atlantic
Speaker 3: does post dubious things a lot of the time, this
Speaker 3: photo is real.
Speaker 1: So how look.
Speaker 2: Also, the ratio is I would stay closer to like
Speaker 2: ts head and one third beer.
Speaker 1: It's even worse, worse.
Speaker 4: I couldn't even accomplish the Hillary Clinton poor, Like my
Speaker 4: poor was better than that, and I was drunk suring
Speaker 4: it very poor.
Speaker 1: This is why we lost, folks, We lost the we
Speaker 1: lost the beer vote with that one.
Speaker 4: And this this is just like a little touchtone that
Speaker 4: I've been I've been thinking a little bit about where
Speaker 4: you You mentioned that it kind of looks like AI.
Speaker 4: There's been times where people have posted real photos, real
Speaker 4: art and people will freak out, being like why are
Speaker 4: you using AI, and it's like, no, this is real,
Speaker 4: this is a photo, this is not AI. We're like
Speaker 4: hitting that point where AI is kind of becoming in
Speaker 4: some cases like indistinguishable and it's tripping people up and
Speaker 4: it's it's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 1: U oh that people are fooled with Oh.
Speaker 3: It's already for it, like it's already captured. The boomers,
Speaker 3: they have no ability to discern what's real anymore because
Speaker 3: I think their media literacy sort of stops that well,
Speaker 3: it's on TV or it's in a newspaper, and that
Speaker 3: is sort of like that means it's truth because they
Speaker 3: grew up in an era where that's just like that,
Speaker 3: that's where all media was sort of concentrated. And I
Speaker 3: think now with our generation jen X, we're a little
Speaker 3: bit savvier, like you can't believe everything you fucking see
Speaker 3: on TV or read, but then that also turns into
Speaker 3: you can't believe everything doctors say. Uh, it's just like
Speaker 3: we are sort of rapidly deteriorating. But yeah, now with
Speaker 3: this stuff too that you see like there are times
Speaker 3: when like there are like all these fake movie trailer
Speaker 3: channels on YouTube that I have errently clicked or not.
Speaker 3: Aaron's like, oh, the trailer for this is already out,
Speaker 3: and then like ten seconds in after like, wait, what
Speaker 3: the fuck am I what?
Speaker 1: Like this fake? At fuck?
Speaker 4: It's a gold mine, Like there's like a gold rush
Speaker 4: of just ai slop not the first to acknowledge that,
Speaker 4: but it's just gonna get worse as long as these
Speaker 4: companies still get like billions in funding for no reason.
Speaker 3: It's there's like a subreddit on the called ai video
Speaker 3: and a lot of people post like just sort of
Speaker 3: like you know, they're all just kind of circle jerking around, like, dude,
Speaker 3: look how good it's fucking getting.
Speaker 1: And some are good and some are bad.
Speaker 3: But someone recently put like a like a very like
Speaker 3: a real life version of the X Men, but like
Speaker 3: the female characters and X Men, but like hyper sexualized.
Speaker 5: And people like, dude, all right, man, it's we've arrived,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, you guys are so fucking stupid. Oh no,
Speaker 5: look at look at look at the way storms Mohawk
Speaker 5: moves in the.
Speaker 1: Wind and this is okay cool June, what's something you
Speaker 1: think is underrated?
Speaker 4: I think, uh, Super Smash Brothers Melee for the GameCube
Speaker 4: competitive scene is very underrated.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well because I am I love It's been a
Speaker 4: minute since I've gone to a tournament, so so you can,
Speaker 4: so people can assassinate me for that. You may, I'm
Speaker 4: kind of a fraud. I mean, Captain Falcon ok and
Speaker 4: I for almost over ten years now have been playing
Speaker 4: the game competitively. I am not like the best, I'm
Speaker 4: not like top one hundred in the world, but I'm
Speaker 4: a lover, you know, I'm a lover.
Speaker 1: Of the game.
Speaker 4: It's a wonderful game. Highly ch I highly recommend checking
Speaker 4: out the competitive space for Melee, in particular the GameCube one.
Speaker 4: So much fun, great community, great people.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always see like clips. I mean I played
Speaker 1: the game like casually. I think, like most people do
Speaker 1: when you're like in college or you know that era,
Speaker 1: we're gathering around a gaming system and you had no
Speaker 1: job or times or or no job in plenty of
Speaker 1: free time.
Speaker 4: Like sort of meant like, yeah, we're playing GameCube. Yeah,
Speaker 4: a very normal way to play Melee. Yeah, compared to
Speaker 4: the insane way that mean people like me play the game.
Speaker 3: But like I just I occasionally see these clips of
Speaker 3: like the most epic matches and how people are just
Speaker 3: surviving on their last legs and not always.
Speaker 1: That warms my heart. But then I realized how robust
Speaker 1: that whole scene is.
Speaker 3: It's anything you suggest for people who want to dabble
Speaker 3: their toe.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think to watch what to watch?
Speaker 4: That's a really hard question because there's so many iconic
Speaker 4: uh sets anything like any set I think with like AMSA,
Speaker 4: he's a Yoshi player. He revolutionized the Yoshi meta. He
Speaker 4: was thought to be like a very low tier character
Speaker 4: for most of the games competitive history, and then in
Speaker 4: like the mid twenty tens, he was like, no, Yoshi
Speaker 4: can be topp tire and he's like a top fifteen
Speaker 4: player in the world. Now Yoshi, there's like Yoshi Renaissance.
Speaker 4: So any like mid like I think it was Kings
Speaker 4: of Keli three Amza versus Anyone at that tournament was
Speaker 4: like his breakout event. So I highly recommend that.
Speaker 1: I love that. It's like all these tournaments are like
Speaker 1: concerts in your mind. You're like, oh god, let me
Speaker 1: let me think of one that Yo are going to.
Speaker 4: Really they really are, Like so there's some iconic like
Speaker 4: pivotal tournaments that I still like ten year old tournaments
Speaker 4: like are just so pivotal to me. And I remember, yeah, Caitlin,
Speaker 4: were you ever you ever?
Speaker 1: Did you ever? Do you ever dabble with the GameCube?
Speaker 2: With the games I never had a game cube. I
Speaker 2: went straight from wait is game Cube?
Speaker 1: I love hang On is Hot?
Speaker 2: Then well it's too late Miles GameCube is Nintendo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I skipped over that, and I also skipped over the week.
Speaker 2: I went straight from like classic like nineteen eighties. Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we had an N sixty four, so I had like
Speaker 2: all those shitty ones and then I had an N
Speaker 2: sixty four and then I skipped all over a bunch
Speaker 2: of them and then went straight to the switch and
Speaker 2: mostly I play Overcooked. I love it, yeah best, And
Speaker 2: so people obviously have.
Speaker 1: You played over Yeah, that's my favorite.
Speaker 2: If you want to test the quality of your relationship
Speaker 2: with someone, of your communication skills, of your collaboration skills,
Speaker 2: you have to play Overcooked with people, and if you
Speaker 2: aren't not, if you you just and then sometimes you
Speaker 2: have to break up with someone because it didn't work out.
Speaker 2: I based on how you play.
Speaker 1: You know, it's wild.
Speaker 3: Before I got engaged to her Majesty, we my like
Speaker 3: one of my best friends put us onto Overcooked, and
Speaker 3: I like him and I grew up playing games together,
Speaker 3: so like we figured it out really quick because we
Speaker 3: had been playing like nintent, like switching the controller back
Speaker 3: and forth since we were like five years old, so
Speaker 3: it was easy to like hop into this and then
Speaker 3: her match is like, oh, what game is this?
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, hop In, hop.
Speaker 3: In, And the way I had to adjust my expectations
Speaker 3: for someone who I've been gaming with since a child,
Speaker 3: and like my partner who does not really game.
Speaker 1: It got wild. But we dialed in our communications so
Speaker 1: much that I was like, this is we can make it.
Speaker 2: We can make we can you can? You can get
Speaker 2: married now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I love the genre of game like Mario Party and
Speaker 4: Overcooked that could just ruin relationships those. I think there
Speaker 4: needs to be more of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, June, what is something that you
Speaker 1: think is overrated?
Speaker 4: Something I think is overrated? And I chose this independently
Speaker 4: of before we were going to talk about the tariffs
Speaker 4: and Curtis Yarvin. But I think Curtis Jarvin in particular,
Speaker 4: his writing and his quality of writing is insanely overrated
Speaker 4: for someone who's like the intellectual of like the anarcho
Speaker 4: capitalist movement right now and like the neo reactionaries. I
Speaker 4: don't know if you've ever actually read any of his writing,
Speaker 4: but oh my dude, he is god awful at writing.
Speaker 4: Like I'm not a good writer, Like I am horrible
Speaker 4: at writing. There's the reason why.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 4: I'm a good like shit posty short form writer. I'm
Speaker 4: not like a good like article writer. I don't do like,
Speaker 4: you know, two thousand word article when I was when
Speaker 4: I was in college, my girlfriend at the time had
Speaker 4: to proofread and like ghost edit everything I wrote, because
Speaker 4: you know, I'm just like my writing long form, it
Speaker 4: gets a little messy. But Curtis Jarvin, I'm better than
Speaker 4: that dude. Yeah, Like, I think most people are better
Speaker 4: than that dude is writing as dog shit.
Speaker 1: Boring, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a Behind the Bastards episode which I
Speaker 3: would encourage people to check out if you need a
Speaker 3: primer for Curtis Jarvin. But June, give people a sort
Speaker 3: of not I guess there's so much you can say
Speaker 3: about Curtis Yarvin, But what what would be your log
Speaker 3: line for people who are like when they say who
Speaker 3: is Curtis Yarvin?
Speaker 2: Such as me? I might say that to break it.
Speaker 1: Down for you, break it down for it you did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So this is a guy that he continues and
Speaker 4: this this is a guy that went under my radar
Speaker 4: for a long time and I think continues to because
Speaker 4: he's not really talked about in the media. He's not
Speaker 4: really acknowledged in any way, so people are just like, oh,
Speaker 4: he's people make the mistake of, oh, he's just some
Speaker 4: like online weirdo. He's not important to focus on. But
Speaker 4: he's not just an online weirdo. He is much like
Speaker 4: many of us, but he is a particular type of
Speaker 4: weirdo who is like genuinely like he is. He calls
Speaker 4: himself neo reactionary. He is essentially what amounts to I guess,
Speaker 4: a right wing economic theorist. And he has very close
Speaker 4: ties to Peter Teel, who is you know, very close
Speaker 4: friends with Trump. Musk runs Jadevans, he owns JD, he
Speaker 4: owns genuinely, he owes his entire career to him basically,
Speaker 4: but he is like an anti democracy, anti freedom technou.
Speaker 4: He what he wants is to destroy the US government
Speaker 4: and most governments through his theory called the Butterfly Revolution
Speaker 4: and his rage theory. So basically, long story short, he
Speaker 4: wants to destroy democratic governments in favor of creating small
Speaker 4: city state like technocracies run by people like Peter tele
Speaker 4: and yeah CEO.
Speaker 1: As the figurehead, and.
Speaker 4: He basically wants it to like you have to up
Speaker 4: into different zones, so you could like free movement to like, Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm sick of living in the Elon Musk zone. I
Speaker 4: wanted to move to the Peter tele zone. He basically
Speaker 4: what it amounts to, I think the easiest way to
Speaker 4: put it is he just wants pure global anarcho capitalism.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and they're on their way. I mean, you
Speaker 1: look at it right now. It's in happening in real time.
Speaker 1: We have Elon Musk acting as the CEO of America
Speaker 1: making wild cuts, destabilizing the government because of the other
Speaker 1: huge part of it is like accelerationism too, is that
Speaker 1: they're like, we need everything to fucking crumble and die,
Speaker 1: so people are ready for a just cataclysmic societal change.
Speaker 4: That's what's super relevant with all of this is it
Speaker 4: does seem like the powers behind Trump's second term are
Speaker 4: all believers in the butterfly revolution and the destroying the
Speaker 4: economy government to get us to that point. That is
Speaker 4: like it's playing out in front of us like his theory.
Speaker 4: If you take a take a read of his Butterfly
Speaker 4: Revolution from twenty twenty two, it's it's kind of scary
Speaker 4: how it's all lining up on Trump on Rice is.
Speaker 2: How dare he be smirched the good name of butterflies.
Speaker 4: I love butterflies. I studied biology in college. I love
Speaker 4: the monarch. I love you know, milkweed. I love the
Speaker 4: connection between the like milkweed and monarch butterflies. He is shaming,
Speaker 4: shaming the beautiful creature.
Speaker 1: Really, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: All right, look, we're gonna talk about this. So we're
Speaker 3: gonna take a quick break and we're gonna get into
Speaker 3: the tariffs because even though these people think they're smart,
Speaker 3: they're I think they're doing like the dumbest version.
Speaker 1: Of the dumb thing they're trying to do.
Speaker 3: Even like, I feel like there are other ways to
Speaker 3: bring a total economic collapse, I guess the world markets,
Speaker 3: but we're doing it in like this weird car salesman
Speaker 3: way with.
Speaker 1: Like discount rates and shit, it's car dealerships have full control.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 3: And we are back. So Liberation Day came and went.
Speaker 3: It was April second, a day that will live in infamy
Speaker 3: for sure. Well, I mean every fucking day at this
Speaker 3: point is.
Speaker 1: Do you feel Do you feel liberated?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel liberated from all of
Speaker 3: the stocks that I had.
Speaker 1: That I look at all. I look at my stock portfolio,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what happened? It is?
Speaker 3: It is one thing where again, like the right now,
Speaker 3: a lot of people are like, you know, we've had
Speaker 3: we have a very healthy economy.
Speaker 1: It's like, you have a very healthy stock market. It's
Speaker 1: not like if we're talking about dollars and cents and
Speaker 1: how working people get, you know, around their day to
Speaker 1: day lives. We do not have a healthy economy by
Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination. We have rampant inequality.
Speaker 3: But anyway, if you look at Liberation Day, there was
Speaker 3: this whole thing. He was like, these are reciprocal tariffs
Speaker 3: because America we're tired of being used and abused by
Speaker 3: the world, you know, leaning on countries with predatory loans
Speaker 3: from the IMF and then making making them open up
Speaker 3: military bases that we run on their land. We are
Speaker 3: such victims all the time. It's it's it's terrible, it's terrible.
Speaker 4: It's horrible when we spread our ideology to the people
Speaker 4: of all these other countries. Having power for realism is horrible.
Speaker 1: You know how hard it is. Killing like socialist revolutionaries
Speaker 1: in Latin America, like we had to create like a
Speaker 1: whole school to train people how to do it, and
Speaker 1: like custs like one million dollars. Fuck, oh my god,
Speaker 1: so fucking hard. They can take advantage early early God.
Speaker 3: Anyway, so the reciprocal tariffs are meant again because it's
Speaker 3: all through. I think they're the first players, like they're
Speaker 3: trying to sell it, especially to conservatives, as this is
Speaker 3: America taking back its power and so we're talking about
Speaker 3: it's like it's reciprocity.
Speaker 1: They're they're fucking us over, therefore we have to fuck
Speaker 1: them over. But really they're crashing the economy.
Speaker 3: So for starters, he's putting tariffs just on two islands
Speaker 3: that aren't even inhabited by human beings.
Speaker 1: I don't even know they existed.
Speaker 3: I never I had And no disrespect to this island
Speaker 3: that has no human beings on it, but and no
Speaker 3: disrespect to the penguins and shit. But the Herd and
Speaker 3: McDonald islands. I thought that was a joke, Like I
Speaker 3: was like Heard and McDonald.
Speaker 1: I'm like what amber Heard and Michael McDonald have their
Speaker 1: own islands, but no, they sit like between Australia and
Speaker 1: South Africa. It takes days to get there by boat.
Speaker 1: No one lives there. So but again, keep the penguins
Speaker 1: in your thoughts because you know they they're probably not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to export anything to the United States.
Speaker 4: And they they look beautiful though, like I know, they
Speaker 4: look gorgeous. They look like Fuji as an island. Actually,
Speaker 4: we don't have to punish nature once. It's like they're beautiful.
Speaker 3: Just some Howard Lutnik shows up with like a fucking
Speaker 3: stick and he's like, hey, come up off your money.
Speaker 3: So some have suggested that the islands were included because
Speaker 3: the tarifflest was thrown together using like a cursory Wikipedia
Speaker 3: search of like world's nations. That's one theory. Another is
Speaker 3: they went by what domain names exist for different countries
Speaker 3: and just went, okay, everything that has a specified domain
Speaker 3: that's a country, and we are going to have to
Speaker 3: go after them.
Speaker 1: Other people are like.
Speaker 3: Eh Okham's razor maybe say it is probably the CIA
Speaker 3: fact book.
Speaker 1: That feels like maybe like the White House's Wikipedia.
Speaker 3: Because that is one of the places where they list
Speaker 3: these you know, these two islands. But really beyond like
Speaker 3: the stupidity of like where these tariffs are being levied
Speaker 3: like one was like on a military base.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're like, what understand the American government is taxing
Speaker 4: a US military base in our country, which is insane,
Speaker 4: Like that has to that cannot be in.
Speaker 1: Its a list. And look we're using AI so we're
Speaker 1: gonna break a few eggs here, just crocket. Yeah right.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of that time. Do you remember when Gosh,
Speaker 2: I'm going to get the details wrong, probably, but like
Speaker 2: like Trump booked an event at the Four Seasons. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Like it was actually like a car mechanic or something
Speaker 2: that he just called.
Speaker 4: The total landscaping is what it was. Yeah, that was
Speaker 4: the thing. I think Giuliani was like dripping paint off
Speaker 4: his face. He was like the tam he was dripping.
Speaker 3: It was the beginning of the stop the steal thing
Speaker 3: in the dumbest fashion. He thought it was a four
Speaker 3: seasons and it was four seasons total landscaping, and then
Speaker 3: it became like the lib's favorite shirt.
Speaker 1: I'm guilty. I did get one for Christmas and it was.
Speaker 4: But it's giving that yeah yeah, yeah, not very talked
Speaker 4: about much today, but I do love how Donald Trump
Speaker 4: was just like funck Giuliani left him in the dust
Speaker 4: he is in this current administration sacrificed him on the altar. R.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, really funny. Dude, Giuliani doesn't have ship. Every
Speaker 1: time I read about him, he's like crying in court
Speaker 1: about how he has nothing anymore, and he's like, what
Speaker 1: do you want me to do?
Speaker 4: Trump has no loyalty to his biggest supporters. No loyalty.
Speaker 4: It's kind of hilarious.
Speaker 3: This is and and we'll get to that too because
Speaker 3: because this is part of a much larger picture of
Speaker 3: these tariffs. So the tariffs themselves another bit of an
Speaker 3: issue here because they are called reciprocal tariffs, but then
Speaker 3: they're like they're actually discounted. If you look at some
Speaker 3: of the the graphic cards that he was holding up,
Speaker 3: he was sort of saying like, Okay, these are the
Speaker 3: tariffs charged to the U. Like a first of all,
Speaker 3: all of these numbers on there are absolutely foolish and
Speaker 3: made up, like they're not based on anything real. As
Speaker 3: many people have pointed out. The bigger thing here though,
Speaker 3: is how did they even like come up with this shit?
Speaker 3: Like this just seems like arbitrary numbers. But a journalist
Speaker 3: that used write for The New York or James Curvetski,
Speaker 3: I think I'm saying that right, reverse engineered the formula
Speaker 3: and basically said Trump took or not Trump. The people
Speaker 3: in the White House took each country's trade deficit and
Speaker 3: divided it by their exports to the United States and
Speaker 3: then did that by half. That's not really important. Ye,
Speaker 3: what's an incredible way to do it. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 3: like so, which means that no actual tariffs were being calculated, Like,
Speaker 3: that's the thing we need to think about here. It
Speaker 3: was just sort of what's the trade deficit and what
Speaker 3: is the amount of the number of dollars that we're
Speaker 3: doing in terms of exports imports, and it has not
Speaker 3: like the tariffs are not being incorporated into the calculation,
Speaker 3: and so others call it a more of a policy
Speaker 3: of surplus targeting. The numbers are so off. The thirty
Speaker 3: nine percent tariff that the EU supposedly charges on his
Speaker 3: little card sheet, according to the White House, is like
Speaker 3: their own numbers. It's more than ten times higher than
Speaker 3: the actual average weighted tariff charged by the EU. It's
Speaker 3: two point seven percent, but we're calling it fucking thirty
Speaker 3: nine percent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like suicidal. It's like a suicidal tariff essentially, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: like what y'all I buckle up.
Speaker 3: The White House has eventually like they they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: we can show you our mathre Like it wasn't what
Speaker 3: you're saying.
Speaker 1: It was totally not done that way. You want to
Speaker 1: see our like our approach here it is in simple
Speaker 1: mathematics of the bunch of Greek letters, So it looks
Speaker 1: fancy like fancy.
Speaker 2: Mad scribbled on a napkin from.
Speaker 4: Yeah, essentially, from what I understand, it is exactly the
Speaker 4: same calculation, exactly exactly, except.
Speaker 1: There's Greek numbers.
Speaker 3: So it looks I think, to like the average person
Speaker 3: who like isn't like wonky about economics or anything, they're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's different than what that guy just said.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing a triangle and like a little backwards e
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 1: It's weird shit in there. Definitely smart stuff going on
Speaker 1: to the White House. But again this has led to
Speaker 1: another thing that people are asking a big question here
Speaker 1: was this generated by artificial intelligence? Now it seems like
Speaker 1: it seems like it was right. Yeah, I mean, the
Speaker 1: White House hasn't confirmed it, but many people have looked
Speaker 1: into asked chat GPT Gemini, Claude Grock, all these large
Speaker 1: language models, basically saying the prompt was, what is a
Speaker 1: quote easy way to solve trade deficits and put the
Speaker 1: US on an even playing be an even playing field.
Speaker 1: Then it spit out the deficit divided by exports formulas
Speaker 1: that we just talked about right now, So people are like, oh.
Speaker 3: What's this, what's the math here? Exactly what are we
Speaker 3: getting at? The one thing credit to Gemini, it did
Speaker 3: caution that the quote real world economic implications of this
Speaker 3: suggestion are quote far more complex and could lead to
Speaker 3: substantial negative consequences. Even the fucking AI knows. They're like, look, man,
Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck I'm saying, but I
Speaker 3: do know that this is dangerous if you try to
Speaker 3: do this in real life.
Speaker 1: And I'm out.
Speaker 4: I think this is just a sign of what's to
Speaker 4: come though with with well maybe in particular with right
Speaker 4: wing governments. There's been a lot of people that have
Speaker 4: done a lot of interesting pieces recently. I can't name
Speaker 4: on off the top of my head, but of the
Speaker 4: how AI and AI generated art is the new aesthetic
Speaker 4: of fascism and how they like these people, these far
Speaker 4: right wingers love just like slop generated content and text
Speaker 4: and all of this stuff, and they are taking full
Speaker 4: advantage of this for the destroyer of all of us basically.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good point because we were just
Speaker 1: talking the other day about how they all attack the
Speaker 1: concept of empathy, and that's like fundamental to get people
Speaker 1: to be all in on just fucking attacking marginalized people
Speaker 1: and eventually just their neighbors. Like, if there's no such
Speaker 1: thing as empathy, then you'll there's no need to consider
Speaker 1: what the experience is like for another human being on earth.
Speaker 1: But then that also, I feel like is a huge
Speaker 1: part of making good art, is like you need that
Speaker 1: ability to like express something deeper and AI is like
Speaker 1: to your point in June, that's the perfect way because
Speaker 1: these people have no fucking empathy, but they want to
Speaker 1: make art or do.
Speaker 4: They do view artists and writers and comedians and all
Speaker 4: these people as like the cool kids. There's a reason
Speaker 4: why I feel like they idolize comedians and view them
Speaker 4: as like their thought leaders. I don't know if you
Speaker 4: know who Asthma. Of course you two, you're you are
Speaker 4: the thought leader of this of this podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've encountered Asmund Gold's content on YouTube a couple
Speaker 1: of times.
Speaker 4: Yes, there was a recent clip of him when the
Speaker 4: studio Ghibli variants from chat GPT were coming out, like
Speaker 4: those those art creations, and he was talking about like
Speaker 4: he was showing some of them and being like artists,
Speaker 4: real artists, he said, are going to have to get
Speaker 4: real jobs soon. He was like loading that artists, like
Speaker 4: physical actual real artists were going to suffer because of
Speaker 4: AI art and how like good it's getting, how efficient
Speaker 4: it's getting at creating something that passes as art, and
Speaker 4: and people like this relish in the destruction of like
Speaker 4: I think for a long time, groups of people that
Speaker 4: were viewed as like the cool kids like artists, right, writers,
Speaker 4: And I think that's why they're going all in on this,
Speaker 4: because they can destroy art and take control of it
Speaker 4: for their own that lets them have another vector of
Speaker 4: fish propaganda for themselves.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, I mean it's just so funny too, Like
Speaker 1: they don't realize it's all derived from human creativity, so
Speaker 1: it has a ceiling in terms of like what it
Speaker 1: can actually do in terms of creating something that's novel
Speaker 1: or new. Because right now, are you being like yeah,
Speaker 1: sure you did nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: Ghibli okay, yeah, like average capitalist we all asked for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean we're so obsessed with nine eleven.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever going to forget it. And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well no, I was. My friend was talking.
Speaker 3: He has like a like a gen Z like skater neighbor,
Speaker 3: and he's like he's like, dude, it's like it's he's like,
Speaker 3: I feel so uncool when I see these dudes like
Speaker 3: hanging outside. I started talking to them. He's like he
Speaker 3: was saying, how these guys like they're so into nine
Speaker 3: to eleven, Like it's like as a vibe, like as
Speaker 3: an aesthetic. Yeah, like they go to like there's like
Speaker 3: a nine to eleven party that they go to, like
Speaker 3: holy there's like a club night.
Speaker 2: And I was like, can I feel bad for my
Speaker 2: Titanic show that I'm putting on?
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, look, don't don't feel bad. There
Speaker 1: was someone someone that you're stoll be like too soon,
Speaker 1: too soon. That was nineteen twelve, given, come on now,
Speaker 1: come on now, America nineteen fourteen. Wait, nineteen twelve.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't two years.
Speaker 1: So my grandmother was.
Speaker 3: Born two days before the Titanic sank and I remember her,
Speaker 3: and she when her one hundredth birthday was around the
Speaker 3: day anniversary.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yah, you know you're so true. You're so true.
Speaker 1: I am so true. Thank you so much for recognizing that. Sorry,
Speaker 1: what were you saying to you?
Speaker 4: America hasn't even fallen to the tariffs yet, and there
Speaker 4: was already a America has Fallen party.
Speaker 1: I'm going to so.
Speaker 4: I think America just loves disasters. We love disasters.
Speaker 3: We love disasters because it helps us usher in new
Speaker 3: forms of authoritarianism.
Speaker 4: Actually, it's the embrace of irony as like a replacement
Speaker 4: for like any emotion, Like like, I love irony. I
Speaker 4: love the veil of irony. But it gets to a
Speaker 4: point where we, I don't know, we use it to
Speaker 4: cover up actual like lack of hope in this world.
Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, the loss of like a genuine
Speaker 4: nature I think leads to the embrace of a more
Speaker 4: insane irony.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally damn true. Words.
Speaker 2: You're so true too.
Speaker 1: You're so true, June. That's the thing about you, Caitlin,
Speaker 1: you too. Everyone's so true on this show.
Speaker 3: This is too much. The truth is, they say, they say,
Speaker 3: The truth is what out there no this right here
Speaker 3: on this show truth. The world has already responded to
Speaker 3: these wacky ass tariffs. Mind you, these are going to
Speaker 3: cause so much pain for American people. Like if you
Speaker 3: for people that are living I said, for people that
Speaker 3: are living paycheck to paycheck, we're looking at an average
Speaker 3: of three hundred dollars more a month. You are going
Speaker 3: to need to find That's what the that's what this means,
Speaker 3: because it's a little abstract when people do percentages, but
Speaker 3: when you really break down what they say projected around
Speaker 3: thirty eight hundred dollars more for like most people, not
Speaker 3: most or like you know that that sort of weighted average,
Speaker 3: that's three hundred dollars extra month.
Speaker 1: That's this is to be able to afford.
Speaker 3: Like everything's gonna because everything around you, the cost is
Speaker 3: gonna go up. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna take a second,
Speaker 3: but it will. And when it does, that's when we're
Speaker 3: gonna really see some.
Speaker 1: Terrible, terrible outcomes.
Speaker 3: The world is already beginning to respond, like the EU
Speaker 3: is basically saying like, okay, so yeah, y'all want to
Speaker 3: fuck around, Like we're not about to get fucked around
Speaker 3: by Trump, and we are gonna launch reciprocal tariffs. We have,
Speaker 3: we have plenty of countermeasures that we are going to deploy.
Speaker 3: The UH German Economic Minister have this to say quote,
Speaker 3: that is what I see, that Donald Trump will buckle
Speaker 3: under pressure, that he corrects his announcements under pressure. But
Speaker 3: the logical consequence is that he then also needs to
Speaker 3: feel the pressure. And this pressure now needs to be
Speaker 3: unfolded from Germany, from Europe, in the alliance with other countries,
Speaker 3: and then we will see who is the stronger one
Speaker 3: in this arm wrestle boo. So just so you know,
Speaker 3: because Trump's whole thing, a lot of people are painting
Speaker 3: this as like it's a racket, like it's a it's
Speaker 3: a protection scheme, because this is the way Trump can
Speaker 3: extract further concessions out of other nations. But I do
Speaker 3: want to play this one clip where Howard Lutnik, who
Speaker 3: is the Commerce Secretary, He's on CNN. He's being asked
Speaker 3: on CNN like, okay, well this is obviously we all
Speaker 3: know logically, we've all seen Ferris Mueler's day off. Tariffs
Speaker 3: don't work, they're bad, So what can these countries do
Speaker 3: to potentially get right? And we don't have to completely
Speaker 3: fuck up the global economy. This is what Howard Lutnik
Speaker 3: has to say.
Speaker 8: So the European Union and China, they have already vailed
Speaker 8: to retaliate. At what point would the administration consider pulling
Speaker 8: back on tariffs, especially on those ten percent across the
Speaker 8: board tariffs. Where is the room for negotiation.
Speaker 9: I don't think there's any chance that President Trump's kind
Speaker 9: of back off his tariffs. This is the reordering of
Speaker 9: global trade, right, That's what's going to happen. But the
Speaker 9: world should stop exploiting the United States from America. Let
Speaker 9: our farmers sell their products, let our ranches sell their products.
Speaker 9: They won't take lobster in Europe or the UK. I mean,
Speaker 9: why won't they take Americans down?
Speaker 8: They didn't for a while, but now they do.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 3: They don't because no, he just you were just corrected,
Speaker 3: you asshole, But because any els is like, they don't
Speaker 3: take our beef, and and she was like, yeah, because
Speaker 3: of the hormones and stuff. They just have higher standards
Speaker 3: for what they feed people, Like yes, smart fucking whatever you.
Speaker 4: Know, think RFK maha that make America healthy again would
Speaker 4: be all on board with those regulations and those standards
Speaker 4: in the UK or in.
Speaker 1: Like the EU. Yeah, it turns out no.
Speaker 3: But again, we all know that Trump doesn't actually come
Speaker 3: up with these methodologies himself, Like he has a team
Speaker 3: of like ethno nationalists and Curtis Jarvin loving techno fascists
Speaker 3: and Argo Cat like all these fucking people that surround
Speaker 3: who make their way into the inner orbit and whisper
Speaker 3: these sweet little nothings into his ear, but frame it
Speaker 3: in a way that appeals to his sense of revenge
Speaker 3: or whatever, and like this is this, this could be
Speaker 3: the way maybe we should try something Like this part
Speaker 3: of me is wondering, like because you know, we've seen
Speaker 3: how Peter Teal has been just lurking in the on
Speaker 3: the sidelines, getting people like JD. Vance into the Vice presidency,
Speaker 3: getting Elon Musk and like just bringing Silicon Valley closer
Speaker 3: to like basically the executive.
Speaker 1: Branch and melding them into one thing. I'm like, is
Speaker 1: this the plan that Peter Teal and Elon.
Speaker 3: Like we're thinking of specifically when he was like we
Speaker 3: gotta fuck we gotta wreck the fucking economy to get
Speaker 3: this shit going, or is it like Trump had the
Speaker 3: idea just like how we saw when clearly, like when
Speaker 3: Putin's like, you gotta fucking figure out how I'm gonna
Speaker 3: beat Ukraine and he's like, fuck this guy, and we're
Speaker 3: turning our backs on him, and he's like, dude, that's
Speaker 3: too obvious, Like don't fucking do it?
Speaker 4: Like that is I actually do think this is the plan,
Speaker 4: because what's the same the I think his first name,
Speaker 4: Scott Besan, the Treasury secretary. He has been like posting
Speaker 4: like this is what we want. This is the exact
Speaker 4: reaction we expected. This is just the beginning. Like these
Speaker 4: people are all in on this. The people that are
Speaker 4: I Trump right now, and I'm not even like I'm
Speaker 4: not trying to say this in an inflammatory or exaggerated fashion.
Speaker 4: They are anarcho capitalists that are essentially running the economic
Speaker 4: policy of this second Trump term. So I do think
Speaker 4: like this, like shock to the economy is genuinely I
Speaker 4: believe the plan.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's not the way they intended the world. I'm out,
Speaker 4: but I do think this is their first step to
Speaker 4: really getting us to that point that they want to.
Speaker 1: The next thing is going to be to downgrade the
Speaker 1: America's credit standing. You know, that's the next hurdle that
Speaker 1: we're going to cross and is going to really, I think,
Speaker 1: show people that this is very much intentional and this
Speaker 1: is the road to the Butterfly Revolution. What a fucking
Speaker 1: nice name for that.
Speaker 4: I know, it sounds beautiful, it's so deceiving. Yeah, they
Speaker 4: love their Yeah, yeah, I hate that. It's so indignified
Speaker 4: saying that. And then what the butterfly Revolution is is, Oh,
Speaker 4: we're going to destroy every like the entire world basically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we'll see what happens here. This is
Speaker 3: going to be gall we have. Unfortunately, we have front
Speaker 3: row seats to the shit show.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing is that it hasn't even really
Speaker 4: started yet. I don't remember who said this, but like
Speaker 4: you know, right now, all we're feeling is like the
Speaker 4: stock market collapse and to an extent that money is fake.
Speaker 4: The stock market isn't real. But someone I wish I
Speaker 4: remember who said this, said that the stock market might
Speaker 4: not be real, but the layoffs and yeah, I canom
Speaker 4: a cardship from that will be real. So it will
Speaker 4: be hard very soon.
Speaker 1: Probably because you think about how publicly traded companies balance
Speaker 1: their books, and one big thing is like, well, we
Speaker 1: need to cut costs and that'll make the shareholders happy
Speaker 1: and maybe we can start correcting it from here. But
Speaker 1: it's also wild to see people so many like the
Speaker 1: vibes on like Bloomberg, TV, CNBC all these shows where
Speaker 1: they're just like I see NBC. One dude is like,
Speaker 1: this is actually like worse than the worst case scenario
Speaker 1: that like even we thought.
Speaker 4: Like so they could, they would have a gun to
Speaker 4: their own head on television. That's what it feels like.
Speaker 1: Because they really look like they're like, but this was
Speaker 1: our sacred god, like the stock market. What but the
Speaker 1: last time you were in office, like we all made
Speaker 1: a ton of money and then what what he This
Speaker 1: isn't the thing I mean he said.
Speaker 3: They've been saying this like the there's gonna be some
Speaker 3: pain before things get better. That wasn't just because they
Speaker 3: were talking about that's why the egg prices aren't going down.
Speaker 3: So I'm with the like the larger picture here, which
Speaker 3: is there is going to be some real financial hardship.
Speaker 3: So we'll see where this goes, don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, We'll see. We'll see who knows.
Speaker 3: To to soon to tell, But just a little bit
Speaker 3: of perspective here would seem.
Speaker 1: Like it's going to be uh, pretty difficult. It is
Speaker 1: wild to get like emails already from like fucking like
Speaker 1: online stores or like, hey, just because the tariffs are
Speaker 1: going up, doesn't mean our prices have to. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: are y'all fucking st sid This shit's gonna look so
Speaker 1: stupid in like a few months. But okay, And.
Speaker 4: There's still some true believers that are like, oh, this
Speaker 4: is part of the plan. Five d chests. I watched
Speaker 4: the plan. Trust the plan.
Speaker 1: Oh man, you better learn a trade, You better learn
Speaker 1: a gross of food. All right, to go to the
Speaker 1: sock factory. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll
Speaker 1: come back to talk about some more fun things after this,
Speaker 1: and we're back. Bill Burr, he has been getting a lot.
Speaker 3: Of attention recently because he's you know, says funny shit
Speaker 3: and is mean to Elon Musk and hates billionaires, so
Speaker 3: that that's kind of getting people's attention.
Speaker 1: But recently he was at this Kennedy Center event where
Speaker 1: Conan O'Brien was getting like the Mark Twain Prize. Uh,
Speaker 1: and these journalists really tried to like do this thing
Speaker 1: where they wanted to kind of pulk the beehive and
Speaker 1: try and get like a quote out of him and
Speaker 1: maybe some news and Bill Bert, I mean credit to him.
Speaker 1: He knew exactly what the fuck was going on, and
Speaker 1: it just this is just I just want to play
Speaker 1: this exchange because it's very interesting to see how like
Speaker 1: the media was going to try and get a little
Speaker 1: bit more sort of stuff that they could like try
Speaker 1: and maybe paint his words or his worldview as being like,
Speaker 1: I mean, look at look at what he said. He's crazy,
Speaker 1: He's off the mark. He said, Elon Musk is a
Speaker 1: laminated face with air plugs. Cunt. That's so terrible. Wow.
Speaker 1: So here is bil Bert on the red carpet, just
Speaker 1: trying to support Conan O'Brien and he gets hit with
Speaker 1: ay man, what about Luigi Masoi? Your reaction to Luigi
Speaker 1: and MAGIONI is reading up?
Speaker 2: You know that perhaps you've been supportive of what he did.
Speaker 1: What is your take on that if you were reading up.
Speaker 7: I don't think you read up on it because I
Speaker 7: said what I felt about it, and I said, what
Speaker 7: a lot of people he said took.
Speaker 1: It that way?
Speaker 2: So could you clarify?
Speaker 7: No, I'm not going to just have some contrable for
Speaker 7: moments you can get clicks.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I mean, I'm here to for Conan,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not doing all of this. What do
Speaker 1: you bring up next week? In Middle East?
Speaker 7: I went to summer school three out of four years
Speaker 7: in high school. I'm not qualified to talk about this.
Speaker 1: Warming. You said about Elon that he was ruining ear
Speaker 1: if I saw in the view, you're critical of him.
Speaker 1: What do you think of all the boycotts, even the
Speaker 1: viol I don't watch the news.
Speaker 7: I don't watch the news. I have no idea what's
Speaker 7: going on. I watch Instagram. I watch people wipe out
Speaker 7: on motorcycles. I watch lions and hyenas fight each other.
Speaker 1: This is the things that I do.
Speaker 7: And I don't think you should be asking a comedian.
Speaker 1: Your German medians are on top of current events.
Speaker 7: You're no, no, that's that's weak that you guys passing
Speaker 7: the buck. You guys need to have balls again, which
Speaker 7: you don't. You guys always goes.
Speaker 1: Should we be thinking this? You guys presents stuff like that.
Speaker 7: You see guys just to have balls, you need you
Speaker 7: get your balls back.
Speaker 1: And it's not my job. I am a dancing clown. God,
Speaker 1: is he's so real for that?
Speaker 4: Like I expect that so much because, like I just mentioned,
Speaker 4: I mean earlier that like so many people look at
Speaker 4: comedians as like the profits of today's age is like
Speaker 4: having a perspective that surely no one else can. But
Speaker 4: they were trying to catch him up with that because
Speaker 4: he's straying away from like the right wing version of that,
Speaker 4: where like Joe Rogan sits down all right today we
Speaker 4: will today we will learn about how vaccines are killing everyone,
Speaker 4: right and people like seals right exactly.
Speaker 1: And I think it's funny too. All the comments this
Speaker 1: this is a clip from Twitter, Like the comments underneath
Speaker 1: are a mix of people like there's my king and
Speaker 1: other people like dude, he's compromised.
Speaker 4: You had that page that the Twitter page up. I
Speaker 4: saw that reply that said something about like, oh, he
Speaker 4: might not be a George Carlin fan. It's like, I'm
Speaker 4: sorry not to be like a George Carlin like lover,
Speaker 4: but like one of George Carlin's most famous bits was
Speaker 4: about how he was ready and excited for the destruction
Speaker 4: of the entire world, Like George Carlin would be loving
Speaker 4: the era we live in, right, well, hell yeah, he
Speaker 4: would be going out being like thank god, these capitalist
Speaker 4: pigs are destroying everything, like like.
Speaker 1: Going mascot for everyone to see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it is Yeah, I mean Bill Burr continues
Speaker 3: to to to say that shit, it's funny to just
Speaker 3: see like again, how just merely again because what he's
Speaker 3: saying isn't necessarily like novel in the sense like no
Speaker 3: one has said these things. But it's that he's connecting
Speaker 3: his sense of outrage and his sort of comedic perspective
Speaker 3: on how absurd and obscene the inequality is around us
Speaker 3: and our lack of ability to contend with any of
Speaker 3: it and the absurdity or like the capitulation of media,
Speaker 3: et cetera. Just he's like just brings it all together
Speaker 3: for a lot of people be.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's right, that's this is this is something
Speaker 1: so we will see. I feel like the Democrats are like,
Speaker 1: do we do we get Bill Bird a run?
Speaker 3: But no, he would never he would never know that,
Speaker 3: he would never do it. No, No, But I'm saying, like,
Speaker 3: when you think about how lazy the thinking is, Like
Speaker 3: I saw something where they're like Adam twenty two needs
Speaker 3: to be the new Joe Rogan of the left.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, wow, we're really we're really just
Speaker 1: think again. The lesson for Democrats after this election was
Speaker 1: we need to find a podcaster.
Speaker 4: That was like, it's not I'm honored that they think that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Frank and you used to be too.
Speaker 3: Right, but it's but I'm like, no, motherfuckers, you need
Speaker 3: to blow up the status quo and stand for something
Speaker 3: in opposition to the status quo because that's the thing
Speaker 3: that people are fucking responding to, not a podcaster. Absolute buffoons.
Speaker 3: But again they're they're here to maintain that. So anyway,
Speaker 3: let's move on. I asked everybody. He said, gave a
Speaker 3: little homework to Caitlin. In June, I said, look, we
Speaker 3: got to a movie trailer I want to talk about
Speaker 3: for the.
Speaker 1: Film Primitive War.
Speaker 3: It's the trailer just dropped for it, and I we
Speaker 3: have to look. Let me first give people the log
Speaker 3: line about this. I know up top I teased a
Speaker 3: nom war about dinosaurs. This is the log line or
Speaker 3: the paragraph they used to describe this film. Quote set
Speaker 3: in Vietnam in nineteen sixty eight. What a big year
Speaker 3: for to set this in the Vietnam War.
Speaker 1: The primitive war movie will follow a search and rescue
Speaker 1: team known as Vulture Squad, sent to an isolated jungle
Speaker 1: valley to reveal the fate of a missing Green Beret platoon.
Speaker 1: As they hunt through the primordial depths of the valley
Speaker 1: and the casualties mount, the Vulture Squad members must embrace
Speaker 1: their savage instincts to survive the horrors they face, interesting
Speaker 1: including the ultimate aprec apex predators, Americans. Oh wait, no, dinosaurs. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's.
Speaker 4: Really convenient that, Yeah, dinosaurs were the villain. That's the
Speaker 4: true villain. Sothing is that.
Speaker 1: That was the first thing that struck me. So we
Speaker 1: all watched the trailer, yeah, and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is a weird reframing of such a bad conflict that
Speaker 1: is so on its face backwards and just unjustifiable. But
Speaker 1: then they're like, but then they got then they got
Speaker 1: fucked up by the dinosaurs, so then they were back
Speaker 1: on their sides, and it's not even just like a
Speaker 1: reframing of entirely what happened.
Speaker 4: And of course it's like fictional and all of that,
Speaker 4: but I still love at the end of the day
Speaker 4: that the true victims of this were were not the
Speaker 4: people that we the Americans invaded. But the Americans exactly, exactly,
Speaker 4: they're the victims. They were straight by the dinosaurs, not.
Speaker 1: The Mong people or the people of Laos, where tons
Speaker 1: and tons of munitions were just dropped like a fucking drop,
Speaker 1: like a bomb drop off on their way back from
Speaker 1: doing bombing runs. No, no, no, it's it's it's Jeremy Piven
Speaker 1: with a bad Southern accent. Caitlin. What's what's your take
Speaker 1: on seeing the smashup of Tigerland and Jurassic Park?
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for asking. This is my time
Speaker 2: to shine as a thought leader, yes.
Speaker 1: A thought leader and film expert.
Speaker 2: Yes, and a master degree havever in cinema. It seems
Speaker 2: to me as though someone wind up.
Speaker 1: It seems.
Speaker 2: I'm an intellectual for academic, if you will. It feels
Speaker 2: like someone watched god Zilla minus one and was like.
Speaker 1: Wonderful, great movie, got the complete.
Speaker 2: And they're like, okay, that, but like, let's change it
Speaker 2: a little bit. It'll be the Vietnam War instead of like,
Speaker 2: you know, World War two, It'll be it'll be dinosaurs
Speaker 2: instead of god So you know, American afayat right, right, right,
Speaker 2: and then and then it's and then they made that,
Speaker 2: and you know, I a plus filmmaking.
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, the shot with the knife in the philosophertors,
Speaker 4: I like, I can't lie, that's kind of that was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm that it's so fucking wacky that I'm like,
Speaker 1: I kind of I might check it out. I might
Speaker 1: check it out.
Speaker 4: The perfect slop, pure yeah, and a lot of adult
Speaker 4: traded beautiful slop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually I didn't realize this is based on
Speaker 1: existing ip there's a book that came out. It bixed
Speaker 1: on a book that the director options. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but apparently so this is being released in July, which
Speaker 1: not incidentally is also when Universal is putting out Jurassic
Speaker 1: World Rebirth. So look, we might have a Barbenheimer summer
Speaker 1: with I don't know, I mean, they're always trying to
Speaker 1: make this happen. I don't know how we match these two.
Speaker 2: But okay, what's it called Primitive War, Primitive Jurassic.
Speaker 1: World War, World War of.
Speaker 2: The World's Jurassic Jurassic War of the Primitive.
Speaker 1: World's twenty five, the Year of the Dinosaur.
Speaker 3: Yes, let's yes, exactly, let's put it. Let's yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's run that by Hollywood because we do have their number.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll just see what they think.
Speaker 3: But yeah, this is going to be This is like
Speaker 3: they're calling it a mockbuster. I hadn't heard that term before.
Speaker 1: I haven't either. What is that, Caitlin? Have you heard
Speaker 1: this term before? No?
Speaker 2: But I see where it's going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're like, clearly they're not trying to say
Speaker 3: this is like we saw the production quality. It's less
Speaker 3: than big budget studio, but they're.
Speaker 2: Doing not horrible.
Speaker 1: No, they're like movie slot right, because.
Speaker 3: They are getting like like they're using a lot of
Speaker 3: visual effects techniques like this sort of VFX studio, like
Speaker 3: how they did for a lot of Disney shows where
Speaker 3: it's all projected behind them, Like clearly you can tell
Speaker 3: there's a lot of blue screen and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, this mockbuster sort of thing is interesting because
Speaker 3: then I clicked on another article about how this is
Speaker 3: kind of like becoming like a burgeoning sort of like
Speaker 3: lane where people are like lending, like people from Star
Speaker 3: Wars worked on another movie this director did that had
Speaker 3: Ken Jong in it that I had never heard of before.
Speaker 3: It was called, uh, it's called occupation rainfall never hurts it,
Speaker 3: but like it only costs like sixteen million dollars to make,
Speaker 3: and then it like it made money back from it
Speaker 3: even though no one really heard about it, and like
Speaker 3: you were like, oh, this is an interesting lane where
Speaker 3: you can kind of turn a profit without spending all
Speaker 3: your money and trying to do all this big budget shit.
Speaker 2: Did it get a theatrical release in the US? Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know why they like export it to, Like
Speaker 2: it must be like.
Speaker 3: On streaming or some shit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I have no idea, but it they apparently people watch
Speaker 3: it and like tem Uira Morrison, isn't it who you
Speaker 3: know plays Jango Fett and Boba Fet and all the
Speaker 3: Star Wars shit.
Speaker 4: But anyway, is the Mockbuster like a natural evolution of
Speaker 4: like like the like early two thousands to like early
Speaker 4: twenty tens era of like weird parody films where they
Speaker 4: were like kind of not super serious. Everyone knew they
Speaker 4: weren't super serious, but they were still like taken seriously
Speaker 4: as movies. Is this like the next era of that?
Speaker 4: Is that like what it kind of is saying?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's basically sort of like this kind
Speaker 3: of gave way to like the B movie. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: like that were sort of informed by Blockbuster films that
Speaker 3: then they're just gonna draft off of and then be like,
Speaker 3: hey what about this kind of thing.
Speaker 2: So someone who recently rewatched cinematic masterpiece Snakes on a Plane, Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: oh on, I feel like there's there's some correlation there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, absolutely absolutely, because like there's there's like also
Speaker 3: other ones like this. There was like a Missus Doubtfire
Speaker 3: sort of send up that was called Wanted Perfect Father.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also yeah, then have you heard of Nick?
Speaker 1: These these films are from the Philippines that are using
Speaker 1: there's like a Filipino version that's where the Missus doubt
Speaker 1: Fire Perfect Wanted Perfect Father came from. And then there's
Speaker 1: a Titanic parody also from the Philippines. And they also
Speaker 1: have Bobo Cop, a parody of RoboCop.
Speaker 2: There's how do you spell the Titanic one? I need
Speaker 2: to watch this immediately. I can't believe I.
Speaker 3: Didn't t A T A Y And I see there's
Speaker 3: not it's not even hyper LinkedIn the Wikipedia article. But
Speaker 3: I'm sure we can ask Brian the editor, who has
Speaker 3: found many obscure films for us that we've tried to watch.
Speaker 1: Locate this one for us too, Caitlin, the way your
Speaker 1: face just immediately went to your computer from like I
Speaker 1: must find this now, what is this?
Speaker 2: I thought, because there are so many bad either like
Speaker 2: knockoff kind of Titanic sequel, because there's Titanic two, right,
Speaker 2: there's Titanic six sixty six. There's a bunch of animated
Speaker 2: movies that came out.
Speaker 1: In the late nineties or like Italian or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're yeah, there's like a legend of Titanic is
Speaker 2: one of them? And then I think that's a sequel legend?
Speaker 4: Is that the one with like the mouse? It was
Speaker 4: the Mouse? I saw that in high school and I
Speaker 4: was blown away. Like one of my friends was like,
Speaker 4: you got to check this shit out. It's one of
Speaker 4: the most astonishingly like bad but like good because it's
Speaker 4: so bad movie you.
Speaker 2: Remember, Yes, Tentacles, Yes, the Giant Octopus. Because not to
Speaker 2: spoil legend of Titanic listeners, but here's what happens.
Speaker 1: On hold on, hold on, I do I do owe
Speaker 1: a debt of responsibility to the listener. This is a
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, just so you know if you need to
Speaker 1: skip ahead, skip ahead two minutes so you don't ruin.
Speaker 1: What is Titanic too?
Speaker 2: You said Legend of Titanic animated feature from I think
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight. Okay, it is a story in which
Speaker 2: I mean lots of lots of stuff happens. It's a
Speaker 2: rich text.
Speaker 1: It's very bad.
Speaker 2: But the climax is basically, Titanic strikes the iceberg, it
Speaker 2: breaks and you know, breaks in half, the all classic stuff.
Speaker 2: But there's an enormous octopus named Tentacles, and he uses
Speaker 2: his tentacles to put the Titanic back together and he
Speaker 2: saves everyone.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's a very positive lives and if I remember correctly,
Speaker 4: there's like a wonderful like music sequence. It's like a
Speaker 4: film for everyone. Basically, it's what you're trying to say,
Speaker 4: exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, wow, fantastic.
Speaker 2: I know we've just blown you away.
Speaker 1: Where can I find that? Where do I watch that YouTube?
Speaker 2: Dot com?
Speaker 1: Oh? The YouTube?
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I'm pretty sure it's still there.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm having that.
Speaker 3: Those are the best movies though, for real, are on
Speaker 3: fully on YouTube. It's not a good movie unless the
Speaker 3: whole thing is on YouTube without ads. That's truly, or
Speaker 3: it's like broken up into sixteen clips. That's fine because
Speaker 3: I was like earlier back in the day when you
Speaker 3: had to string together.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's like a ten minute time limit on YouTube,
Speaker 2: remember that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not any now when I just now listen to
Speaker 3: what is love the ten hour loop version.
Speaker 1: Kids these days they don't understand how hard consuming video was. No, no,
Speaker 1: now sh it's just popping up on their servers or
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck they're using these days.
Speaker 4: On your tam phone in your dang little pocket. You
Speaker 4: can pull that up. It's everyone time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Speaking as a Gen Alpha child me myself, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess I didn't really know what it was like.
Speaker 1: Canonically gen Alpha.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, in my head canon, you are Gen Alpha.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, Thank you well, June. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us on the daily Zeit guys, where
Speaker 1: do the people find you, follow you, support you, read
Speaker 1: all that, just experience your genius.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Thank you
Speaker 4: for having me on. This is so much fun. You
Speaker 4: can find me on I'm primarily on Blue Sky these days.
Speaker 4: You can find me at Junelper dot Beer. So that's
Speaker 4: j u n l p e Er dot Beer and
Speaker 4: you can also find me on the Western Kabuki Podcast.
Speaker 4: We're basically just a podcast about what's going on online.
Speaker 4: We talk about politics, gaming, and like the gamer Gate world,
Speaker 4: so we cover like the politics around that. We talk
Speaker 4: about like crypto and tech type stuff, and we just
Speaker 4: have a few different series that we do. One of
Speaker 4: our fan favorites is the Worst Post Bracket that we
Speaker 4: do quarterly, So we're just kind of like a show
Speaker 4: about just whatever whatever we want. It's a comedy show,
Speaker 4: so you can find me there as well.
Speaker 1: Fantastic Fantastic. Now, is there a tweet or post some
Speaker 1: work of media, social or otherwise that you're enjoying.
Speaker 4: So that I'm enjoying, So I have this like sickness.
Speaker 4: It's it's like post their brain. So when I'm really
Speaker 4: enjoying something online, it's usually because I'm just astonished at
Speaker 4: how insane it is. So I this is RFK Junior,
Speaker 4: and like the whole Make America Healthy Again movement has
Speaker 4: become kind of a sideshow to all of the agonies
Speaker 4: going on in the world right now. But one of
Speaker 4: my favorite things to do right now is not just
Speaker 4: a single tweet is to go on the Steak and
Speaker 4: Shake Twitter page because they really sly embraced the the
Speaker 4: make America Healthy again, and they got beef pala instead
Speaker 4: of seed oils. So like that sphere is going crazy
Speaker 4: under Steak and Shake, and Steak and Shake is really
Speaker 4: leaning into it. They're like doing like the fascist aesthetic.
Speaker 4: They're posting all sorts of like Elon musk Tesla type stuff.
Speaker 4: So I have like a color of different tweets, it's
Speaker 4: mostly the replies that I'm interested in. I love like
Speaker 4: genres of tweets, and right now the genre of insane
Speaker 4: make America healthy again reply or to Steak and Shake.
Speaker 4: So this is just an example. So Steak and Shake says,
Speaker 4: as of April second, we will begin using one grade
Speaker 4: a Wisconsin butter to replace the current buttery blend which
Speaker 4: contains seed oils. This change will be made in all
Speaker 4: of our restaurants. And someone replies to that saying, boy,
Speaker 4: y'all keep this up, and I'm gonna eat nothing but
Speaker 4: steak and Shake. Please don't make a banana putting shake
Speaker 4: with real bananas. I'd get fat. And I just like
Speaker 4: there's just something about like these people that are like, oh,
Speaker 4: we need to make America healthy again, and how do
Speaker 4: we do that? Make everyone go eat fast food only
Speaker 4: all the time? Exactly, And they like genuinely believe this.
Speaker 4: They're true believers. And I'm just fascinated by these people.
Speaker 4: I am in love with these reply sections. If you
Speaker 4: are ever bored, go to the steak and shake reply sections.
Speaker 4: Any post, it doesn't even matter. It's just a bunch
Speaker 4: of people on that level just speaking truth to power.
Speaker 4: And God, I I've laughed so hard at some of
Speaker 4: these people.
Speaker 1: Wow, oh my god. Yeah, it's like it's so weird.
Speaker 3: It's like the replies because I remember looking when I
Speaker 3: saw that, like their their logos kind of took on
Speaker 3: a very Third Reich vibe, like very obviously.
Speaker 1: Too when you're like, yo, what are we doing steak shake?
Speaker 1: Like I mean, not, what are we doing? Like, oh
Speaker 1: I see you steak and shake? Yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Like now I'm just looking at these replies,
Speaker 3: it's like they almost feel like they're bots. But they're
Speaker 3: also like your brain. People's brains are so cooked. They
Speaker 3: just sound like mindless automatons too, who are just what
Speaker 3: it is is critical? Yeah, Oh my.
Speaker 1: God, God. Anyway, thank you for that, June. I enjoy
Speaker 1: is mind drop. Yeah, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1: Now let me see, Caitlin Dronte. What where do the
Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you, experience you here, you experience
Speaker 1: your genius, even engage with it if they would like to.
Speaker 2: Gosh, well, you can listen to the Bechtel Cast. I
Speaker 2: would absolutely love that. It's the podcast that I co
Speaker 2: host with Jamie Loftis, and we talk about movies through
Speaker 2: an intersectional feminist lens. And obviously we're going to cover
Speaker 2: what the fuck was it called? Primitive war?
Speaker 1: Oh? Primitive war? Yeah? God, you have to, yes, simply must.
Speaker 2: I am doing those shows that I mentioned at the
Speaker 2: top of the episode in State College, Pennsylvania and New
Speaker 2: York in mid April, so I would love for people
Speaker 2: to come out to those. You can find more information
Speaker 2: and tickets on my website at Caitlindurante dot com. Slash
Speaker 2: shows and uh yeah, I teach us screenwriting classes and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, so you can check out more information
Speaker 2: about that on my website as well. Follow me on
Speaker 2: Instagram and that's those are most of the things.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, And is there work of media, social or
Speaker 1: otherwise that you're enjoying.
Speaker 2: So I haven't seen this yet, but I'm encouraging people
Speaker 2: to watch it. I have a ticket to see it
Speaker 2: on this Sunday. But the film The Encampments, the documentary
Speaker 2: that is being released by Watermelon Pictures about the encampments,
Speaker 2: I think specifically at Columbia University, about the student protesters
Speaker 2: who you know, gathered and are protesting Israel's genocide against Palestine.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I am encouraging people to go check
Speaker 2: out that documentary at screening in different cities right in
Speaker 2: the next few days. It seems like there's like a
Speaker 2: very limited release, but I'm hoping that the more people
Speaker 2: see it, the more what the wider release it will get.
Speaker 2: If you go to a Watermelon Pictures dot com, you
Speaker 2: can find information about screenings and where those are.
Speaker 1: And when that's crazy. I just I was walking and
Speaker 1: someone offered me free tickets to a documentary that Galga
Speaker 1: dot is premiering also in La called Nothing Here, which
Speaker 1: is pretty wild. It almost seems too real, doesn't it
Speaker 1: is that real? No? No, it just feels like the
Speaker 1: kind of thing that would happen. Uh. And it's so
Speaker 1: horrifying the fact that you tricked me, says a lot
Speaker 1: about society, and I'm not even Ai. I'm not even AI, folks.
Speaker 1: I'm doing this with my own fucked up smooth of
Speaker 1: brain over here. Okay, imagine what AI can do. I
Speaker 1: mean ship It's probably gonna ship out a whole documentary. Anyway.
Speaker 3: You can tweet. I like, so June now that you.
Speaker 3: I was looking to the Steaky Shake.
Speaker 1: Twitter and I found it. It's the best account on
Speaker 1: Twitter around. Some gold found some gold.
Speaker 3: So apparently the Steak and Shake was doing like a
Speaker 3: Tesla tallow twofer like they were. Yeah yeah, so what
Speaker 3: is that? Like if you own a Tesla you get
Speaker 3: a deal or something or they were selling stuff at
Speaker 3: Tesla dealerships.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like there was like some partnership with Tesla. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So there's like a bunch of happy freaks holding fast
Speaker 1: food in front of cyber trucks in this photo. And
Speaker 1: there's this one is replies from at Tesla Lisa, but
Speaker 1: the s's are five said, I specifically drove my cyber
Speaker 1: truck forty minutes each way. Parenthetical, Well, the truck drove
Speaker 1: me and I just sat there today to visit your
Speaker 1: location in Englewood, Colorado. The food was excellent and the
Speaker 1: staff was very friendly. Thank you for supporting us. You
Speaker 1: gained a customer. Then underneath at Brandon Tsla tweeted when
Speaker 1: restaurant in La absolute madness.
Speaker 4: Seriously, I am not choking. I've spent like at least
Speaker 4: a couple of hours just going through all of those.
Speaker 4: There's some like absolute gems, Steak and Shake. They have
Speaker 4: the best Twitter right now, they've collected all the freaks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally my favorite. Another person, my favorite timeline, what
Speaker 1: shit y'all?
Speaker 3: Life is about to Life is about to come at
Speaker 3: some of us real fast.
Speaker 1: But credit to the people that have been bracing themselves
Speaker 1: for a moment. Anyway.
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Speaker 3: Okay, we've been doing this like seven years now, but
Speaker 3: You can go to the description of this episode right
Speaker 3: now in your podcast app, and then you can scroll
Speaker 3: around you look for the footnotes. Thank you, Caitlin, which
Speaker 3: is where we gonna where we link off to the
Speaker 3: articles we talked about other information that will help you
Speaker 3: know guide your understanding, maybe about Curtis Yarvin and the
Speaker 3: butterfly Revolution, and we also link off to a song
Speaker 3: that we think you might enjoy. I'm going to suggest
Speaker 3: today a track called Cocaine Turkey by the producer Milch
Speaker 3: I l H. It's from this album called Soul five Too,
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like low five tracks, but like
Speaker 3: mixed with like sort of like R and B eighties
Speaker 3: R and B samples. It To me, it feels less
Speaker 3: low fi and more like vapor wave. But if vapor
Speaker 3: wave was using mostly like R and B in like
Speaker 3: eighties or like soul, like just kind of that aesthetic
Speaker 3: rather than like the fully fully vapor wave type of
Speaker 3: vapor wave.
Speaker 1: But that's the energy is spooky, That's what I The
Speaker 1: good vapor wave makes you feel like I'm in a
Speaker 1: haunted mall. This cocaine, this track that we're going out
Speaker 1: is called Cocaine Turkey.
Speaker 2: Andation to cocaine Bear.
Speaker 1: I don't know, makes you think. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: we might have another movie. We might have to talk
Speaker 1: about cocaine turkey. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So are you on like the like dark wave, like
Speaker 4: dark scented type type.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is more like it's I mean, like they're
Speaker 3: sort of slowed down soul and R and B samples
Speaker 3: and like with like reverb and it's like definitely getting
Speaker 3: like compressed and crushed the other ways to make it
Speaker 3: give it a little more texture and grit to it.
Speaker 3: But all the tracks are like a minute and forty
Speaker 3: to like two and a half minutes.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. Check out the album Soul
Speaker 1: Fi too, and just.
Speaker 3: Let it play and I'm sure it'll do something to
Speaker 3: your brain in a good way, in a good one,
Speaker 3: in a good way.
Speaker 1: Okay.
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