Speaker 1: So I would like to share something with our listeners,
Speaker 1: something that writer and Will were actually two of the
Speaker 1: first people I told the news too. I was recently
Speaker 1: diagnosed with DCIS, which stands for ductyl carcinoma in C two,
Speaker 1: which is a form of breast cancer. It is very,
Speaker 1: very very early. It's technically stage zero to be specific,
Speaker 1: just because I like too much information all the time.
Speaker 1: I was diagnosed with high grade DCIS with micro invasion,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to be fine. I'm having surgery to
Speaker 1: remove it. I'm going to be on some some follow
Speaker 1: up treatment. I've had to make a lot of decisions
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. And the only reason
Speaker 1: I'm sharing it is because you know, if you've ever
Speaker 1: had those thoughts in your life where someone close to
Speaker 1: you is diagnosed with cancer, somewhere in your mind you think.
Speaker 2: What would I do if this were me? What would
Speaker 2: what would I do in this situation?
Speaker 1: And for some reason, I had always thought like I
Speaker 1: would suffer in silence. I would get the diagnosis, I
Speaker 1: would not tell anyone. I would tell only my small
Speaker 1: small group, and then I would just suck it up
Speaker 1: and and and then when I'm on the other side,
Speaker 1: of it. Then I would tell people, here, I've gone
Speaker 1: through this journey, and here's what I did. And I
Speaker 1: have as I've gotten older, I have really tried to
Speaker 1: learn from the mistakes, or from not even just the mistakes.
Speaker 1: I've tried to learn from the experiences of others, sure,
Speaker 1: because I don't think I did that enough when I
Speaker 1: was younger. And one of the women that I have
Speaker 1: learned from is Glennon Doyle, and she often talks about
Speaker 1: how a lot of people like to save sharing their
Speaker 1: experiences until they've come out on the other side of it,
Speaker 1: so that they're able to say, here's the pretty picture
Speaker 1: of it all, here's what I've.
Speaker 2: Learned, the end of the story, the end of the story.
Speaker 1: But the place you have the most to learn from
Speaker 1: is at the very beginning of a story, or in
Speaker 1: the very messy middle of a story.
Speaker 2: And my first.
Speaker 1: Instinct when I was diagnosed was to do that clam
Speaker 1: up thing, was to be like, Okay, I have to
Speaker 1: share this news with Jensen, of course, and then I
Speaker 1: wanted to share the news with my mom and my
Speaker 1: dad and my brother. And then outside of that, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to just pick a few select
Speaker 1: friends and then what I realized say is the more
Speaker 1: people I talked to, the more people had their own experiences,
Speaker 1: either themselves being diagnosed with cancer or a family member
Speaker 1: who's been diagnosed with cancer, and the world of resources
Speaker 1: and experiences that can be shared by sharing it and
Speaker 1: things that can be learned. The only reason I caught
Speaker 1: this cancer when it is still stage zero is because
Speaker 1: the day I got my text message that my yearly
Speaker 1: mammogram had come up, I made the appointment. And the
Speaker 1: fact that I am good about going to my doctor's appointments,
Speaker 1: when truthfully it would be so much easier with as
Speaker 1: busy as I am, with the fifty jobs I have
Speaker 1: and the two kids and a husband and a house,
Speaker 1: it would be so easy to say I don't have
Speaker 1: time for that. I went to my mammogram last year.
Speaker 1: I was fine last year. I don't need to go
Speaker 1: again this year. It's gonna be fine. I was fine
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 2: And I didn't.
Speaker 1: Instead, I was like, yeah, it's time, got to make
Speaker 1: that appointment. And they found it so so so early
Speaker 1: that I'm going to be fine. And so I want
Speaker 1: to share this because I hope that it will encourage
Speaker 1: anyone to get in there if it's time for your appointment,
Speaker 1: if you've never had an appointment before, get in there.
Speaker 1: If you have to find out that you have cancer,
Speaker 1: find out when it's at stage zero, if possible. And
Speaker 1: so you know, I have some big decisions ahead of
Speaker 1: me about what I want to do for treatment. I
Speaker 1: don't have all the answers yet. I still have doctors,
Speaker 1: I need to meet with, oncologists, radiation specialists, hormone therapists,
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff that I have still in front
Speaker 1: of me to decide. But I did want to let
Speaker 1: our dear listeners know because it may You know, I'm
Speaker 1: We're going to try to have it not affect things
Speaker 1: as far as our scheduling goes. I'm going to try
Speaker 1: to make it for every episode, but you know, there
Speaker 1: are a possibility we may have to put some things
Speaker 1: on hold depending on what treatments I go through. And
Speaker 1: I did just want everyone to know, I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm this is not going to be one of those
Speaker 1: times where my sweet Sleep of Death jokes are gonna
Speaker 1: come to buy.
Speaker 2: Me in the ass.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fine, But I did want you all
Speaker 1: to know, and well.
Speaker 3: We love you, and you know that we got you.
Speaker 3: So whatever, whatever you need, we're here. And if you
Speaker 3: need to miss some or we need to postpone stuff,
Speaker 3: it's the last thing that.
Speaker 4: You need to worry about.
Speaker 5: It's mind boggling right like right now, no joke. My
Speaker 5: wife and I know four people, four friends that are
Speaker 5: dealing with breast cancer specific Yeah, it's it's just it's
Speaker 5: the age, it's the time we live in. I don't know,
Speaker 5: but yeah, definitely, it's good to be more.
Speaker 3: Prolific, it seems everywhere and for men to you know,
Speaker 3: prostate exams and colon oscar I mean, these are the
Speaker 3: things that are super important, so don't put them off.
Speaker 3: And we're so glad you didn't because you are into
Speaker 3: fine and part of the day. You might have some
Speaker 3: sucky days coming up, but.
Speaker 4: We're here for you.
Speaker 2: So whatever, I know, I know you are.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, and uh yeah, we love you, so,
Speaker 1: thank you for being here for this episode of Podmeets World.
Speaker 2: I'm Daniel Fit, I'm Rader Strong, and I'm Wilfridel.
Speaker 1: Throughout the history of Boy Meets World, we had a
Speaker 1: wide array of very talented guest stars, all just beginning
Speaker 1: their journey in Hollywood. Sometimes they'd hang around for a bit,
Speaker 1: like Adam Scott or Ethan Souplee, while other times they'd
Speaker 1: just swing by, like Carrie Russell or that dolphin Disney World.
Speaker 1: It's hard not to notice that when you take a
Speaker 1: look at the alumni from our show, many of the
Speaker 1: names would go on to become our listeners and our
Speaker 1: favorite actors. And this week we're excited to talk to
Speaker 1: one of the talented thesbians always featured in those clickbait
Speaker 1: articles with the headline twenty people you won't believe appeared
Speaker 1: on Boy Meets World. She's best known as Detective Juliet
Speaker 1: Jules O'Hara on the cult TV show Psych that ran
Speaker 1: for eight seasons and three movies, with three more in development.
Speaker 1: She'd also appear on Two and a half Men, Home Improvement,
Speaker 1: Santa Clarita, Diet, Lethal Weapon, and Sorry Will four Hallmark movies.
Speaker 1: We will also talk to her about the two thousand
Speaker 1: Disney movies. She starred in Model Behavior, where she played
Speaker 1: two different characters alongside Kathy Lee Gifford and Justin Timberlake.
Speaker 1: But mostly we'll be talking to her about that one
Speaker 1: episode of Boy Meets World. I Love You, Donna Karen,
Speaker 1: where she played a fitness obsessed love interest to Sean
Speaker 1: while he also searched to find the owner of a
Speaker 1: lost purse. We are thrilled to welcome Maggie Lawson. Hi
Speaker 1: h hi, oh my goshall, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: being here with us.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much for asking me to do this.
Speaker 6: How fun? This is fun. I totally rewatched the episode.
Speaker 2: Did you okay? Great?
Speaker 1: Well, we are just so honored that you were willing
Speaker 1: to come on and talk about this little blip on
Speaker 1: your very impressive resume.
Speaker 6: A yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: So we figured we would start with a little origin story.
Speaker 2: You were born in Louisville, Kentucky, right.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, okay, How did you ever find yourself taking
Speaker 1: the big trip to be a child actor in Los Angeles?
Speaker 6: It was so it's such a wild story, and it's long,
Speaker 6: so I'm gonna i'll make it really short. But my
Speaker 6: sophomore year of high school, I uh, I came out
Speaker 6: on like spring break and I got I got really lucky.
Speaker 6: I met this casting director who then put me in
Speaker 6: touch with my an agent, who basically was my agent
Speaker 6: for like ten years. I got so I don't I mean,
Speaker 6: you guys probably remember this, But like there were like
Speaker 6: they would hand out holding deals sometimes, you know, yeah,
Speaker 6: and they'd give you a little bit of money and
Speaker 6: say like we're gonna put you in something or whatever.
Speaker 6: And I have no idea why. I read for one
Speaker 6: show called Unhappily Ever after Yes, Nick Cox, NICKI Cox, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 6: And I didn't get I had never done anything ever.
Speaker 6: It was the first thing my agent sent me on
Speaker 6: and they wanted to like test me for something. I
Speaker 6: didn't know what any of this was. And I realized
Speaker 6: I was like the option person, you know, testing like
Speaker 6: they bring their favorites and then they bring the options.
Speaker 6: I was like the option person.
Speaker 4: But it went well.
Speaker 6: I didn't get it. I went it went pretty well.
Speaker 6: And because of that, they like offered me this like
Speaker 6: little holding deal and said but at the time, you know,
Speaker 6: this of my family from Kentucky like whatever. We were like,
Speaker 6: what like it was? It was, you know, it wasn't
Speaker 6: a lot, but it was definitely more than we had
Speaker 6: ever had. So we were like, Okay, maybe this should
Speaker 6: be a move that we make. And then within a
Speaker 6: year of me going back and forth between Louisville and
Speaker 6: la they put me in a pilot like a Miller
Speaker 6: boy at pilot. That was so like on the air,
Speaker 6: sold on the air. Whatever, moved the family. It was
Speaker 6: very exciting. Got here and they said they changed their mind.
Speaker 6: Oh not thinking of that. Yeah, but my brother and
Speaker 6: I and my mom at that point were already here.
Speaker 6: My brother was like looking like we were looking at
Speaker 6: high schools and things. So we just stayed. And I
Speaker 6: think this was my third job. Maybe I think ever
Speaker 6: or fourth. I'm not gonna write N ninety seven. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so anyway, that is like the very very short version
Speaker 6: of just a wild, really wild story. But so that's
Speaker 6: how I got here.
Speaker 1: So you moved to LA from Louisville. Who is your
Speaker 1: who becomes your LA crew? And did you guys go
Speaker 1: to ed Debvick's.
Speaker 4: Nice that's a yes, that's a yes.
Speaker 2: Laugh right there.
Speaker 6: I went to Edbevics like once, Okay, I didn't have
Speaker 6: a crew. I was really awkward. I was very like
Speaker 6: home bit like I was like I work and I
Speaker 6: go home and that is what I do, and I
Speaker 6: was not like I didn't really have a crew for
Speaker 6: a long time until I was in my twenties. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so I heard about Edubevics and I knew all the
Speaker 6: cool kids went to Eduebevics, but I think maybe I
Speaker 6: only went once and I was with my family and
Speaker 6: it wasn't the best. But I it's just funny you
Speaker 6: say that, because I remember being like everyone talks about as.
Speaker 2: I wish I had friends to go to ed Debvick's with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you were fifteen then when you moved.
Speaker 6: Well, no, I was actually seventeen. I was fifteen when
Speaker 6: I started coming out here, and I got really lucky.
Speaker 6: On one of the trips, I ended up like when
Speaker 6: I would go back and forth, my agent will let
Speaker 6: me stay with her. She'd like, we'll line up some
Speaker 6: auditions while you come out. And I ended up getting
Speaker 6: a movie called Pleasantville, and I had this very small
Speaker 6: part in it. But it kept me here for like
Speaker 6: three or four months because they ended up like this
Speaker 6: group of kids, you know, in the background sometimes and
Speaker 6: like we were just always around in the town of Pleasantville.
Speaker 6: So it bought me this time to be here. And
Speaker 6: then it was during that that, like I would I
Speaker 6: would maybe audition and get other things, and so eventually,
Speaker 6: but the summer that we my family came out, that
Speaker 6: was the summer of the pilot, so that would have
Speaker 6: that was ninety seven, but I started going back and
Speaker 6: forth like fifteen sixteen. Yeah, yeah, and so so just
Speaker 6: like a few years ago, you know exactly.
Speaker 2: That's what I sell everybody to.
Speaker 4: But we should say you you are another one.
Speaker 3: We've had a string of guests come on the show
Speaker 3: who haven't aged like at all.
Speaker 4: So it's true.
Speaker 5: It's true.
Speaker 6: You look the same.
Speaker 4: Thank you exactly the same. It's so rude.
Speaker 6: We look exactly the same, all of you. We look good.
Speaker 4: This crew there was this is your crew.
Speaker 6: Now can we go to antics?
Speaker 1: Absolutely so from our shared time as kid actors in
Speaker 1: the nineties, do you remember anyone who was always at
Speaker 1: like every audition you had. Who were the people you
Speaker 1: were constantly up against?
Speaker 6: Carrie Russell? Yeah, I saw Carry Russell a lot for
Speaker 6: a little while, like Rachel McAdams. Yeah, but like not
Speaker 6: you know, do you know Brie Blair? Do you know? Yes,
Speaker 6: it was like brid I always saw each other. We're
Speaker 6: still friends. Those were probably my free that I feel
Speaker 6: like I saw a lot. Marisa Coughlin, I saw a lot, Uh,
Speaker 6: Katie Holmes, I would see I mean the Dawson's Creek
Speaker 6: that Michelle William like that like that crew a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's nothing. Yeah, it's so funny to talk about now.
Speaker 2: I know, thinking about it, it's a whole other life.
Speaker 6: It's a whole other and it isn't it isn't like
Speaker 6: it's so weird. Yeah, and here we are literally, yeah.
Speaker 2: Here we are.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what did your family back in Kentucky think when
Speaker 1: you move here and you kind of have success right away?
Speaker 1: Were they surprised or did? Were they like we always
Speaker 1: knew she was destined for big things.
Speaker 6: Oh that's very sweet. I don't. I think they were
Speaker 6: both I think supportive, and then I also think there
Speaker 6: was a little bit of like you're you all are
Speaker 6: out of your mind, like this is this is insane
Speaker 6: and yet you know, I mean, we didn't even like
Speaker 6: to give you a little like background in Kentucky, we
Speaker 6: didn't even own a car, like that's where we were,
Speaker 6: Like my grandparents had to give us a car to
Speaker 6: like drive to Los Angeles. So it was a whole
Speaker 6: I'm actually glad now that I look back on it,
Speaker 6: that we we didn't know we were so ignorant. It
Speaker 6: was just, you know, so we hadn't and I think
Speaker 6: about my mom now, who's like my age now, but
Speaker 6: like with three kids and a teenager being like, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna go to LA and like, it's just so wild
Speaker 6: to me when I think about those moments and how
Speaker 6: we just we just did it. I don't know, we
Speaker 6: just did it. But but I don't think we thought.
Speaker 6: We didn't even have you know, you don't. We didn't
Speaker 6: have the information to even think that far. So it
Speaker 6: was more just like, I don't know, let's give it
Speaker 6: a shot, and then you know, we stayed. My mom
Speaker 6: actually has since me back to Kentucky, but my brothers
Speaker 6: and I are we're all we're all here still, wow,
Speaker 6: greatly rightly, I mean, I want to hear like, I'm
Speaker 6: sure we all have those versions, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was yeah, oh yeah, my mom says to
Speaker 1: this day, my mom says, if I knew now what
Speaker 1: I knew what I know, I would never let you
Speaker 1: get into it. And she's like, and I guess, looking back,
Speaker 1: I'm happy I didn't because it all worked out and
Speaker 1: you're fine, and like I didn't have anything to worry about.
Speaker 1: She's like, but had I known what we were up
Speaker 1: against and what it was going to be like I
Speaker 1: would have been like, oh no, I'm too afraid for
Speaker 1: all of.
Speaker 6: That, can you imagine? I do think.
Speaker 5: I think part of what we compare it to now though,
Speaker 5: is like what it's like to be an adult actor,
Speaker 5: which is like very different when you're that age, especially
Speaker 5: back then, if you were getting parts and getting feed
Speaker 5: like positive feedback, it would keep happening, do you know
Speaker 5: what I mean? Or maybe don't, like it's I guess
Speaker 5: the pool was just so much smaller. There was so
Speaker 5: much less competition that if you worked and if you
Speaker 5: were responsible and mature, like you would keep working. And
Speaker 5: I think that there was like a it was just
Speaker 5: a snowball effect, you know. And I think that if
Speaker 5: like obviously you were getting everything, like things were coming
Speaker 5: your way. What's crazy to me is that like when
Speaker 5: that when you got the show and there and then
Speaker 5: they didn't you know, you move, made the move and
Speaker 5: they yanked it from under you, Like that would have
Speaker 5: been the do or die moment for me, like as
Speaker 5: a parent, like do I keep putting my kid through
Speaker 5: this kind of like yeah, I would be most worried
Speaker 5: about like just your fragile you know, But I mean
Speaker 5: maybe or not, maybe she looked at you and you
Speaker 5: were like, I got this. I'm okay, I'm rolling into
Speaker 5: the next job.
Speaker 1: And she was like, I.
Speaker 4: Could see that.
Speaker 5: That's that's the tough skin thing that you do need
Speaker 5: from this industry, and maybe you developed it because of
Speaker 5: that experience.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but telling the stories about how a lot
Speaker 3: of us got here, I mean when I say these
Speaker 3: stories out loud, my parents are like.
Speaker 4: I can't believe we let you do some of the Yeah,
Speaker 4: we let you do. I can't believe we didn't.
Speaker 6: And not to sound like that, but it really was
Speaker 6: a different time. Yes, yes, I know everything was different.
Speaker 4: Then, yep.
Speaker 6: I mean we barely had what email. I mean, we
Speaker 6: were gonna writ tagers and texts to like go to auditions,
Speaker 6: and I think, like even that the excess, Like I
Speaker 6: just think if I'm with you, well, and my mom
Speaker 6: says the same thing, like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Now, before we get into your appearance on Boy Meets World.
Speaker 2: Can we talk model behavior?
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is a Disney movie you book in
Speaker 1: two thousand and you play two girls, a model and
Speaker 1: a nerd, of course, and your love interest is Justin
Speaker 1: Timberlake and also Kathy Lee Gifford and her son Cody
Speaker 1: are in it too. Was this movie as insane as
Speaker 1: it sounds? Yes, tell me more, tell me everything.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you everything. It was so it was my
Speaker 6: first like lead thing where like, oh my god, how
Speaker 6: did I I am that? But I was so excited.
Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, they get to play two characters,
Speaker 6: and I'm you don't really stink into this, and oh
Speaker 6: my god. I was so excited. And and at the
Speaker 6: time they were like, we're going to try to you know,
Speaker 6: stunt casts or get you know, somebody for your mom
Speaker 6: and somebody for the eleven Trists, and they were saying
Speaker 6: all of this, and then I heard rumors of, uh,
Speaker 6: this this justin Timberlake person.
Speaker 2: But you didn't know who he was in the year
Speaker 2: two thousand. No, I was not like ever where were you?
Speaker 2: This was? This was this was peak boy band mania.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 6: And it wasn't like, yes, I saw TRL but like
Speaker 6: boy bands. I was like listening to like Radiohead and like.
Speaker 2: You were cool. I get it. I god, very clear,
Speaker 2: very clear.
Speaker 6: I wasn't cool. I wasn't. I was like, I just wasn't.
Speaker 6: It wasn't really so I wasn't following it. I knew
Speaker 6: the Backstreet Boys were huge, but I was like, who
Speaker 6: is in Sync? I don't know who?
Speaker 5: I'm with you, No, it's pop culture. If you're not
Speaker 5: into like pop culture, even while you're making pop culture,
Speaker 5: you cannot be into it. You could just be put
Speaker 5: on the blinders like I did. I would never have
Speaker 5: known who n Sync was if we hadn't met them Danielle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if Danielle wasn't dating and they were hanging.
Speaker 6: Danielle, I forgot about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm trying to not be offended now,
Speaker 1: but like hearing you say I knew who the Backstreet
Speaker 1: Boys were, but I'm not aware of in Sync.
Speaker 2: It just brings me back to nineteen ninety eight, nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety nine and having to be like.
Speaker 4: The backs are good, They're justice good.
Speaker 2: Honestly, they are better, They're better better. Look, that's just me.
Speaker 2: What did I say?
Speaker 6: Like I was kind of a socially, I just was
Speaker 6: removed a little bit from and so I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: everyone was like, oh my god, Justin really is going
Speaker 6: to play the Elevenders side I look him up. I
Speaker 6: was like, I don't know who he is, and I
Speaker 6: was and everyone was like, this is a really big deal.
Speaker 6: So I got very excited. And Kathy Wee Gifford at
Speaker 6: the time as well. I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 6: the best you know, she was on I don't know,
Speaker 6: the Today Show or whatever and regis yes, So I
Speaker 6: I that was that seemed like I was like, this
Speaker 6: is I got very intimidated very quickly, and yet I
Speaker 6: didn't really even know who it was. But I will
Speaker 6: tell you it was his first acting job. He was
Speaker 6: so kind. His mom was on set with him the
Speaker 6: whole time. My mom was on set with me the
Speaker 6: whole time. They hung out like we had and to
Speaker 6: this day when I see Justin it's like this it
Speaker 6: was such a time for both of us. It was
Speaker 6: like my first big role, like lead in something, and
Speaker 6: it was a Disney Sunday Night movie, which at the time,
Speaker 6: you know, those were kind of like a big deal
Speaker 6: to get or whatever.
Speaker 4: And the Wonderful World Disney. It was great.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I was like, and especially I had done
Speaker 6: so little at that point that it was like I
Speaker 6: just it felt so that was really magical. And for him,
Speaker 6: it was like in Sync was just about to take off,
Speaker 6: and he was about to take off, and like that
Speaker 6: was all like kind of bubbling, and then it was
Speaker 6: his first acting job and so we had this like
Speaker 6: just very sweet, fun experience. It was his first time
Speaker 6: screen kiss and Gifford was wonderful. In fact, she was
Speaker 6: so she was so kind. And my brother, I remember
Speaker 6: at the time, was trying to get into USC and
Speaker 6: like she was, and there was like we were trying
Speaker 6: to get financial aid for him and all kinds. There
Speaker 6: were just a lot of things that we didn't know
Speaker 6: if it was actually going to happen. And Kathy had
Speaker 6: Frank call USC to just give like a vote of
Speaker 6: Frank Giffert, Sorry I should say Frank Giffort, her husband,
Speaker 6: who was a major, like the biggest Like when I
Speaker 6: think of these things people did, I think, now you know,
Speaker 6: we're even it's just wild.
Speaker 4: How many did it work? Did he get it? Did
Speaker 4: he get in?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I don't know if it was from the Frank College
Speaker 6: just whatever, but it's.
Speaker 4: Sure it helped.
Speaker 2: That's great. Helped.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so nice.
Speaker 6: And anyway, so justin it was one of the greatest
Speaker 6: experiences ever. Like I I hold that it is so
Speaker 6: sweet and it like anytime anybody brings it up, it's
Speaker 6: such a fun movie that I know was like because
Speaker 6: it was his first thing. Although I I I kind
Speaker 6: of talked him into letting him grow his hair out.
Speaker 6: I know you.
Speaker 2: Are you responsible for the long Top promm?
Speaker 4: You did it? Long Top?
Speaker 6: I was like, He's like, did you say long Top problem?
Speaker 2: Long Top promen?
Speaker 6: I love you, You're the best.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks good, but it's a ton of sodium
Speaker 4: for the record.
Speaker 6: And with too much.
Speaker 4: Okay he was.
Speaker 6: It was very funny. I remember having a whole conversation
Speaker 6: about it. I'm not saying I'm responsible for it, but
Speaker 6: I will definitely take credit grow growing the hair out.
Speaker 6: And then I felt really bad because I felt like
Speaker 6: you got a lot and I felt like it was
Speaker 6: my fault. It was my fault that Justin grew his
Speaker 6: hair out and got all the leg And I'll.
Speaker 2: Be honest, I was a fan of it too. I
Speaker 2: was a fan of it. I liked it when it
Speaker 2: had grown out. I did. I liked it.
Speaker 3: But I know a fan and I know we were
Speaker 3: just talking about this briefly, but oh my god, how
Speaker 3: good was Radio had been in the late nineties For
Speaker 3: the record that I know they were. The first album
Speaker 3: was Creep their first album, because it was just it
Speaker 3: was so good.
Speaker 6: I would put like at night, I would just leave
Speaker 6: well the Bens. Yeah, yeah, that was that ended up
Speaker 6: becoming my favorite.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was talking Mario, this is fun, but
Speaker 1: I Radiohead podcast Welcome to Creep.
Speaker 6: We'd like to yes, yeah, but I I was I
Speaker 6: would just put it on, repeating I would.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a great album.
Speaker 6: I was so good anyway. So yeah, it's fun to
Speaker 6: talk about Radiohead too.
Speaker 3: It's kind of the Weezer Weezer Radiohead, that whole kind
Speaker 3: of thing. That's when the Blue album came out. There's
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of different stuff.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's go from podcast Head back to pod
Speaker 1: meets World.
Speaker 4: Fine.
Speaker 2: Do you remember auditioning for your part on Boy Meets World.
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't I.
Speaker 4: Remember being on Boy.
Speaker 6: I mean they know it's my IMDb. I remember. I
Speaker 6: do remember one thing. I remember being like, oh, it
Speaker 6: was kind of fun to play a jerk. Oh yeah,
Speaker 6: I felt like I was always like the sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I don't know if I remember that from the
Speaker 6: actual episode or from auditioning.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 6: I do remember getting I remember my trailer. I remember
Speaker 6: because I had a little Uh, I think I had
Speaker 6: a trailer outside the stage.
Speaker 2: Because we were at CBS at this point.
Speaker 6: CBS Radford, right, yeah, yeah, And so I do remember
Speaker 6: that because I was like, it was I think the
Speaker 6: first time I had been in like a an actual trailer.
Speaker 6: I'd been in like little dressing rooms and things. So
Speaker 6: I mean that's my my, my, my memory, and I
Speaker 6: remember it being really hot in there, oh, in my trailer.
Speaker 2: But I'm glad to know we treated our guest stars.
Speaker 6: It was good. It was good. But you know, it's
Speaker 6: weird these things that like stay with you, Like I
Speaker 6: kind of remember the smell of the trail. Okay, we
Speaker 6: don't have to get into all of that, but don't.
Speaker 4: We trailers on on rat he's.
Speaker 6: Like little Yeah, there were.
Speaker 2: It was really little honeywagons.
Speaker 6: It was also really nice, not for us.
Speaker 2: No, we had the rooms in the little.
Speaker 3: Rooms like the stairs, but they're okay, So where were
Speaker 3: the where were the trailers?
Speaker 6: Then?
Speaker 4: In relation to our stage.
Speaker 6: It was like right outside the stage, right, wasn't it
Speaker 6: like right?
Speaker 2: It okay, No, you're right, we know, you're sure, you're right.
Speaker 5: I'm sure you're right. I'm trying to remember where they
Speaker 5: were in relationships. We just will it was where guest
Speaker 5: casts stayed, so we never went there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: It was like a whole other section that wasn't really
Speaker 5: where we were.
Speaker 4: So yeah, god, it.
Speaker 6: Was fun though. I do remember. I remember, I remember
Speaker 6: shooting that. I do remember the scene. I remember you
Speaker 6: doing this. Yeah, yeah, it was so good. Rewatching the episode, God,
Speaker 6: the show was so good.
Speaker 1: Well, you watched you got to watch the best episode
Speaker 1: you were in, the best episode of season five, hands down,
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 1: If you were like, let's do a sampling and you
Speaker 1: picked one episode from season five and it's the one
Speaker 1: you're in from from beginning to end, you'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm going to go back and watch all
Speaker 1: these episodes and then it's really it's really good and
Speaker 1: you really added to it. Honestly, You're We talked about
Speaker 1: what a kind of difficult role that was to end.
Speaker 1: You were so good and you were so funny in it.
Speaker 1: Did you before it? So you don't really remember the audition?
Speaker 1: Were you familiar with the show at all before you
Speaker 1: came on? Did you know who any of us were?
Speaker 6: I mean I knew the show, yes, Okay, yeah, I
Speaker 6: knew it well enough. Absolutely, of course it was massive.
Speaker 6: I was so excited. I was so excited. I mean,
Speaker 6: that's a good call. World was like, I'm sorry, boy,
Speaker 6: meet It's world was uh is was uh So there
Speaker 6: was like such an emotional parts. I laughed out loud
Speaker 6: like multiple times watching the episode, and I was also like,
Speaker 6: this is really emotional. I know I have friends now
Speaker 6: whose kids are going back and watching. Oh yeah, the
Speaker 6: og like watching just because it's it's a really good show.
Speaker 6: It's a really really good show. So I put it
Speaker 6: like a level up of like not knowing who and
Speaker 6: sync is because I feel like this was really special
Speaker 6: and everyone everyone knew it, and that's how people talked
Speaker 6: about it even at the time, like this is like
Speaker 6: an this is not just like a comedy, you know,
Speaker 6: like a before I mentioned like another show, I want
Speaker 6: to Yeah, this was this was special. It's really good.
Speaker 2: Were you by any chance obsessed with fitness in real life?
Speaker 6: Not really, But I was really like honored that someone's
Speaker 6: you know, that feeling of.
Speaker 2: Like wow, you they see something in me.
Speaker 6: As a as a workout like a crazy workout person.
Speaker 6: Like I remember I did not see myself that way
Speaker 6: at all or I remember being like, well this, this is
Speaker 6: kind of cool. I'm gonna run this maybe for a
Speaker 6: little bit. But no, I I had never I had
Speaker 6: never seen myself that way and also like this idea
Speaker 6: I think at this time. I do remember, though, like
Speaker 6: being aware of like personal training and in a way
Speaker 6: that like I feel like I hadn't before because there
Speaker 6: was like a time there, I feel like in the
Speaker 6: early two thousands where there were all this stuff that
Speaker 6: was like oh yeah, diets and workouts and like there
Speaker 6: was and maybe that's just what I became aware of
Speaker 6: and it's all been like that. But I was like,
Speaker 6: I remember being like, oh, this episode makes sense, yes now.
Speaker 1: So you you and Writer had your big scene together,
Speaker 1: and and Ben and I were obviously there as well.
Speaker 1: What do you remember, if anything about young Writer or
Speaker 1: or any of any of us that week.
Speaker 6: I remember you were so you were so nice that
Speaker 6: you were like, uh, you were so warm and so welcoming.
Speaker 6: I did not think I was very good, like so
Speaker 6: I was like very like. I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 6: not I'm like not hitting this. I remember I think
Speaker 6: getting a note about making a face, which I actually
Speaker 6: saw when I rewatched it. I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 6: I remember getting this note about like like you say
Speaker 6: something about meat and I'm like eat fat to burn fat,
Speaker 6: or I make some jokes like this. Yeah, and I
Speaker 6: was supposed to give like I don't really know if
Speaker 6: I agree with that, but I'm saying it to like
Speaker 6: make him feel better. Look, and I just felt like
Speaker 6: I couldn't nail it. So I you know, I felt
Speaker 6: like a little I had so much fun doing it,
Speaker 6: but I was also I was so new. So Danielle,
Speaker 6: I remember you being so nice writer. We like talked
Speaker 6: about the scene.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember you.
Speaker 6: You were like we like sat and like had a
Speaker 6: conversation about like what was going on in the scene.
Speaker 6: And I love that. I felt like I was like
Speaker 6: I hadn't had a lot of that kind of like
Speaker 6: prep and thought like going into scenes like it. So
Speaker 6: as we were like doing it over the course of
Speaker 6: the week, I remember it being like like we had
Speaker 6: conversations about like the characters. I felt like I was
Speaker 6: on one of the most profession sets I had definitely
Speaker 6: at that point I ever been on. Uh, you all were
Speaker 6: like so so so wonderful. It was so much fun. Michael, Yes,
Speaker 6: we met, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: We're sure you met at a run.
Speaker 6: Also, just like like the nicest, warmest group of people.
Speaker 6: I loved it, and it's Mike Michael, the Michael. Yeah.
Speaker 6: It was also just every everybody was wonderful. It was wonderful.
Speaker 6: It's a very like fun experience and like a memory
Speaker 6: other than I having, Like, am I am I getting this?
Speaker 6: Is this funny? Am I being funny? Am I too? Me?
Speaker 1: Every everyone who ever? I mean including us. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say every guest star, but it wasn't just the
Speaker 1: guest stars. It was always us. There were the note
Speaker 1: sessions after the run throughs. No matter how confident you
Speaker 1: went into them, you always left feeling like, well, I
Speaker 1: didn't nail it.
Speaker 2: I suck, I am not good.
Speaker 1: Everyone else I feel like is good and it's me
Speaker 1: that didn't nail it, and tomorrow will be better if
Speaker 1: I am better. And then you would find out the
Speaker 1: next day whether or not you had made it better
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I forgot about note dicussions.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: I don't think they do those anymore?
Speaker 1: Right, No, not with the whole cast didn't.
Speaker 7: Then to that degree, like that was were they were,
Speaker 7: they were, they were involved, we talk about this a
Speaker 7: lot on the on the podcast because.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of on screen kisses going on
Speaker 1: back there. I feel like there are significantly less on
Speaker 1: screen kisses on TV today than there used to be
Speaker 1: because you go in for the.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 6: Every thing I did then was just somebody. Yeah, you
Speaker 6: had to make it out. It was like a thing that.
Speaker 2: Was like, all right, well, who am I making out
Speaker 2: with this week? Yes?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so true. Though there was I know lot
Speaker 6: of that. There was a lot of kissing. I know
Speaker 6: now that I'm thinking about it, I'm like, I don't
Speaker 6: know that I see that as much anymore.
Speaker 2: I really don't see teenagers kissing that offense.
Speaker 3: They don't have it nearly as much as they did.
Speaker 3: But so wait, so you were justin Timberlake's first on
Speaker 3: screen kiss.
Speaker 4: Who was your first on screen kiss?
Speaker 6: My first? Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Oh you all?
Speaker 1: I want to know the I want to know every
Speaker 1: I already know. I want to know every detail of
Speaker 1: this story.
Speaker 6: This is crazy. I was a pleasant phil Okay, So
Speaker 6: I read for the Marley Shelton role in that, which
Speaker 6: is Toby McGuire's love interest, and the director Gary Ross
Speaker 6: was like at my audition, he said, you know, you're
Speaker 6: too green. You haven't done anything, but like, I want
Speaker 6: to see you do something in this I just can't.
Speaker 6: It can't be this. So I'm gonna put you in
Speaker 6: the town. And I played this character named Lisa Anne.
Speaker 6: There were three like girls like we were a little
Speaker 6: click and pleasant fille. And on the very first day
Speaker 6: he came up to me, this is a horrible story.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell it. He came up to me and
Speaker 6: he said, we've decided it's a great story, but we've
Speaker 6: decided to you know, there's one character that it comes
Speaker 6: to color before all of the others, and it's because
Speaker 6: she discovers sexual feelings. And I'm sixteen, and he says,
Speaker 6: you know, I think we're gonna make that your character
Speaker 6: because and I saw it in the script that Lisa Anne,
Speaker 6: my character has this moment where she's making out with somebody.
Speaker 6: And I remember in the script it said all tongues
Speaker 6: and hands that was description of it you and I
Speaker 6: was like, oh okay. And i'd heard about stage kisses
Speaker 6: at that time or you know screenca I was like,
Speaker 6: can't be that bad. And dad, you know, and so
Speaker 6: Gary's like, are you comfortable with that, and I was like,
Speaker 6: can I just ask a question, what does it mean
Speaker 6: when it says like all tongues and hands? He said,
Speaker 6: it means exactly what it says in the script, and
Speaker 6: are you okay? Like he was really kind about it,
Speaker 6: like I just want to make sure you're comfortable about it.
Speaker 6: If not, well, and of course me, I was like,
Speaker 6: I I.
Speaker 2: Uh, okay, I want this job.
Speaker 5: I want to go and I really if you're not,
Speaker 5: we'll replace you with somebody else. You will always find
Speaker 5: another sixteen year old who will do this.
Speaker 6: So we we on the very first day that these
Speaker 6: scenes are are maybe going to happen. He he says,
Speaker 6: we're have you have you met the person you're going
Speaker 6: to be uh making out with? Because and hands with
Speaker 6: bugles and hands and he he said, because he doesn't.
Speaker 6: He didn't have at the time any lines. So he said,
Speaker 6: we we picked somebody that we sort of felt, you know,
Speaker 6: you all this is horrible. I sound horrible. So he's like,
Speaker 6: he's like, let's let's I'm going to bring you a
Speaker 6: picture of him, and you tell me, and I'm going
Speaker 6: to also bring you some of the other people that
Speaker 6: we were considering.
Speaker 5: The lineup.
Speaker 4: You were casting. You got to cast your own.
Speaker 2: Let talk, let talk.
Speaker 4: Let her talk.
Speaker 6: So my my again, like my sixteen year old self,
Speaker 6: Maggie now would be like overthinking this, like don't say
Speaker 6: anything like everything's okay, yes, yes, sure like whatever. At
Speaker 6: the time, I was so I didn't know, So I
Speaker 6: was just like, yeah, no, like I I can, I
Speaker 6: can I look at the.
Speaker 2: Next Yeah, I love you, Marie?
Speaker 6: Is me in my mind? You all it feels like
Speaker 6: the sad Is this all? Like from the memory of it,
Speaker 6: I'm sure it was like don photos. So I go
Speaker 6: with them going through the photos and I'm like, who's this?
Speaker 6: And he said, oh, you know, this is so and
Speaker 6: so he's you know, he was like a basketball player
Speaker 6: from Wake Forest and he just came down whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just slid the picture and I thought I was like,
Speaker 6: this guy's attractive and I okay, And so he said
Speaker 6: it's great, Well, we'll go ask him if he's okay
Speaker 6: with this. So he goes and he finds them, we
Speaker 6: meet and he's like, are you too okay with this?
Speaker 6: I got to say for you know, like the care
Speaker 6: that I feel like he took around this like.
Speaker 1: The progressive exactly pretty progressive for the time.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I'm so so grateful for it. I meet this person,
Speaker 6: he's so sweet, and we were both like we've he's obviously.
Speaker 6: He was like, I'm just here making extra money. Is
Speaker 6: like a background performer. Uh, really, I'm not a master,
Speaker 6: and like now I'm now I'm going to be making
Speaker 6: out with you on the scene. I was like, well,
Speaker 6: I've never made out with anybody in the scene, and
Speaker 6: he was like, are we supposed to practice? And I
Speaker 6: was like, I don't know, I don't. I don't know
Speaker 6: that it's like that, but but we can definitely talk
Speaker 6: about what we're both comfortable with. And I don't know
Speaker 6: if you know this person, but you probably do. Do
Speaker 6: you know Mark Lucas? Do you know he was not fuff?
Speaker 6: He's in like a bunch of Christmas movie like whatever.
Speaker 6: It was Mark Lucas.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 6: When I see him, I'm like, it's the funniest story that.
Speaker 2: You gaate story. I'm sorry, no, it's great.
Speaker 6: It's just so silly.
Speaker 4: He owes you his career.
Speaker 6: But it's more it's just I think back of like
Speaker 6: these crazy stories now and like like he brought me
Speaker 6: my So that was my first on screen kiss and
Speaker 6: it was all It really was all tongues and hands
Speaker 6: and it was not like, you know, we're we're going
Speaker 6: to talk about how we're stage kissing here. So Mark,
Speaker 6: you know, thank you for being a wonderful partner. But
Speaker 6: then I had to like pull myself back going forward
Speaker 6: because I was like, well, that's not how it is, right, Yeah,
Speaker 6: So yeah, it was very different. But I got to
Speaker 6: bring a lot of experience to justin Timberlake, so I
Speaker 6: felt like I could speak to it in a very
Speaker 6: it's awful you all, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I already told the story on here how unbelievably thrilled
Speaker 1: I was. There's an episode we have coming up where
Speaker 1: I get to, uh, I make out with somebody. And
Speaker 1: you know, at this point, I had been kissing Ben
Speaker 1: week after week, and that at this point was like
Speaker 1: second nature. We had been doing that a lot, so
Speaker 1: anytime one of us got to kiss somebody new, it
Speaker 1: was very much like.
Speaker 2: Who are they gonna cast? Who's who's it gonna be?
Speaker 2: Who's think?
Speaker 6: I know, like even now, I feel like if I'm
Speaker 6: reading for something, you have a chemistry reader, you have
Speaker 6: like you know, it's a weird thing. That we do
Speaker 6: and like, so it's still to I still I almost
Speaker 6: feel the exact same way I did then about it.
Speaker 6: Now there's still like this I don't know, curiosity and
Speaker 6: then also like it's it's it's a weird, weird thing
Speaker 6: that we do and it's also fun. Yeah, very yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway do people Do people ever recognize you from Boy
Speaker 1: Meets Work?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's not the one they go to.
Speaker 6: I get a lot of like, uh, are you Alicia Silverstone.
Speaker 6: That's actually I get the most. But I do get
Speaker 6: get a lot of like messages or dms of oh
Speaker 6: my god, I forgot you did an episode of this.
Speaker 6: I was watching it the other day or my right,
Speaker 6: I was watching it whatever. So yes, I it's still
Speaker 6: it plays a lot. I feel like it's oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's still.
Speaker 2: It's still always on.
Speaker 6: How specially you all? You all look great. This is like,
Speaker 6: what a cool thing after thirty something years that you're like,
Speaker 6: we get to talk about these these times.
Speaker 1: You know, we we really are I would I would
Speaker 1: downplay it, but we really are very proud of the podcast,
Speaker 1: Like we really are very proud of what we've what
Speaker 1: we've done, our friendship, our relationship, are like, we're just
Speaker 1: we're proud, and we we love it and we don't
Speaker 1: take it lightly, and we we recognize what an immense
Speaker 1: honor and privilege it is to still be cared about
Speaker 1: in any capacity and to have been a part of
Speaker 1: something that has less left and impact.
Speaker 2: Act on people.
Speaker 1: So we I'm not going to let that go without
Speaker 1: telling you that it really does mean something to us.
Speaker 2: So thank you.
Speaker 6: It's beautiful. I mean, it's really really really special. I'm
Speaker 6: really happy for you all. Yeah. On the podcast, you know,
Speaker 6: it's also very successful and it really lived. This show
Speaker 6: really lives, like it's rare to say that about a show.
Speaker 1: Well, the year after you were with us on on
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World, you went on and did Home Improvement,
Speaker 1: which set was more fun.
Speaker 6: Oh definitely Boy Meets World.
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was the I was the older woman. I
Speaker 6: was in college, and I was as Zachary Taye, Brian's
Speaker 6: old love interest. So much kissing.
Speaker 2: God, you're right, I know.
Speaker 1: It was so much kissing as so.
Speaker 2: So much kissing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was every week for a while. It was
Speaker 4: every week, especially Rider.
Speaker 3: And I was just what it just this week, this week,
Speaker 3: this week, Okay, here we go, and if you.
Speaker 6: Were right, you guys were the single, you know, the
Speaker 6: yeah wow and you're both You're so good too. Everyone's
Speaker 6: so good on the show, like really talented people. You
Speaker 6: all are.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: We like to think that we have a cult audience.
Speaker 1: But you would go on to play Detective Juliette O'Hara
Speaker 1: on Psych and all of its resulting films, and this
Speaker 1: has become a show with an elite group of diehard fans.
Speaker 1: Could you have ever predicted what that show would become?
Speaker 6: Oh my god, we didn't know anyone. I mean USA
Speaker 6: when when we did that, see, I mean they had
Speaker 6: Monk at that point, but like it was even I
Speaker 6: remember reading. I was like USA is doing a series
Speaker 6: and what is true? It was so it wasn't even
Speaker 6: on the map really right other than Monk. So not
Speaker 6: only did I not have I could never have predicted
Speaker 6: or seen this kind of uh, you know life for
Speaker 6: the show. It was more like, uh, we didn't know
Speaker 6: anybody was watched. We didn't know any We were in
Speaker 6: such a bubble in Vancouver when we were doing it
Speaker 6: as well, Like it was it was really a shock
Speaker 6: to us. It was really social media, which at the
Speaker 6: time when like Twitter was sort of starting, I think
Speaker 6: there was MySpace and that's where we saw. We were like, oh,
Speaker 6: people talk about the show and these on social media.
Speaker 6: We started to see that a little bit, and then
Speaker 6: I think like season three we went to a comic
Speaker 6: con and that's when we were like, oh, there's there's
Speaker 6: this is this is a thing. But no, my god, no,
Speaker 6: I I I'm so grateful for it. And and but
Speaker 6: could never have I mean, you know, oh, no, this
Speaker 6: is a fun, silly, nerdy little show. And then it
Speaker 6: was now, it's now, it's again, it still lives. It's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because it's still fun film.
Speaker 1: When you guys do the movies, would you keep making
Speaker 1: psych films forever?
Speaker 2: If you could forever?
Speaker 6: Oh we have we have so much fun. We are
Speaker 6: just as close off screen as we are on Still.
Speaker 6: I mean, they're my family. I truly like we have
Speaker 6: a psych or our family, a psych family text thread
Speaker 6: that we are every somebody's on every day like we
Speaker 6: we are in constant it's it's I'm blown away, but yeah,
Speaker 6: it's it's a it's a real true I know everyone
Speaker 6: says that like we were a family, but we we
Speaker 6: really are after all this time and everything we've been
Speaker 6: through too, I think, yeah, we we got we just
Speaker 6: we hit the we hit the jackpot. It's just like
Speaker 6: you all, you know, it's like so rare for these
Speaker 6: things to happen, uh like this, and we're so lucky
Speaker 6: when they do.
Speaker 5: I remember I was hanging out with you right right
Speaker 5: before you got went to Vancouver and you got psych
Speaker 5: and you had been doing like series after series, and
Speaker 5: I remember that It's so funny because I was trying
Speaker 5: to think, like what was like because you were kind
Speaker 5: of like, I don't know about the show. I don't
Speaker 5: know anything. You know, you liked the script, but I
Speaker 5: but it was also that it was single camera and
Speaker 5: you had been doing so much multi camera and you
Speaker 5: would like just just miss some big multi camera show
Speaker 5: or something. And then you were I remember you just
Speaker 5: we were at the we went to the movies, like
Speaker 5: I forget what we were going to see, and you
Speaker 5: were like, I'm just gonna do it. I'm going to go,
Speaker 5: you know, and like the town knows, like because somebody
Speaker 5: said to you, like we know you can do multi camera.
Speaker 5: There's there'll be other shows if this one doesn't. Mark
Speaker 5: story Writer because I remember you were like because you
Speaker 5: were leaving, you were like going to Vancouver and it
Speaker 5: was like a big move and you.
Speaker 2: Were like banging out.
Speaker 5: Well, so I came and I guest starred on Crumbs
Speaker 5: and that's how we reconnected. And then we had the
Speaker 5: same manager, right with Ellen, and then you were dating
Speaker 5: yeah and so and Brooke and so like we became
Speaker 5: couple friends in two thousand and four ish or whatever,
Speaker 5: right when I moved back to LA two thousand and five,
Speaker 5: so that's right. And then I remember you like left
Speaker 5: to do psych and and then I never saw you again.
Speaker 5: She got you, but I just remember the conversation, and
Speaker 5: now I'm remembering that. I I know what the conflict was.
Speaker 5: It was that it wasn't a major network that it
Speaker 5: was USA. Was was was the risk that you were taking,
Speaker 5: and you were like, is anybody going to watch this?
Speaker 5: Is this going to be a thing? And you were like,
Speaker 5: but you were excited to do single camera because you
Speaker 5: had done so much multi camera and it was like,
Speaker 5: obviously that that single camera is going to become more
Speaker 5: of the thing, and you were like, I'm gonna go
Speaker 5: do this show. It's a detective thing.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I'm a little blown away by I like, I.
Speaker 5: Just wish I could remember what movie we went to see,
Speaker 5: because I.
Speaker 4: Like, okay, so.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and four, we're going to see probably Knows.
Speaker 4: And then you know, like that kind of thing.
Speaker 6: It's going to help screening of mohave. Did you know
Speaker 6: we all sit at a table after we went to
Speaker 6: the it was at the Grove, remember, and we went
Speaker 6: to like oo's yeah, so Eric right, and a woman
Speaker 6: like an executive I was at a party and some
Speaker 6: like executive from Fox who I had known, like since
Speaker 6: I had moved to LA. She was like just somebody
Speaker 6: I'd check in with. And I saw her and she
Speaker 6: was like, stop stop with the multi camp, Like we
Speaker 6: know you can do it.
Speaker 5: How do you remember because you remember it because we
Speaker 5: were It was like a big moment and you were like,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to do I need to like expand
Speaker 5: my repertoire and I'm going to do this single camera show,
Speaker 5: even though it's USA and even though maybe nobody will
Speaker 5: see it and I have to move all the way
Speaker 5: to Vancouver, I'm going to do it.
Speaker 3: And that's the chances, the chances of not only getting
Speaker 3: on a show, that's going to be successful, but a
Speaker 3: show that's then literally going to help put the.
Speaker 4: Entire network on the map.
Speaker 3: As I mean, you are the chances of that are
Speaker 3: so slim that it is a risk because you're like, well,
Speaker 3: I mean, what are the but it did, it turned
Speaker 3: around the entire network.
Speaker 5: As an actor, you just always want to go with
Speaker 5: something that's already established, it's already successful, and you know,
Speaker 5: at that time, everybody was hoping to get friends. Everybody
Speaker 5: is hoping to get like the huge multi camera in
Speaker 5: town job that was going to be a hit and
Speaker 5: then open up all these other doors. So doing something
Speaker 5: like on a cable network or out of town or
Speaker 5: single camp, you know, it was all risk. But yeah,
Speaker 5: it's interesting. Yeah, that's the screening of Mohavey. That's so
Speaker 5: which we ended up being called Death Valley, right, okay,
Speaker 5: oh right, o, god right, I hadn't heard the name
Speaker 5: we shot it, but yeah.
Speaker 6: Writer and Eric were in a movie together. So Eric
Speaker 6: was my boyfriend at the time, and.
Speaker 2: It was Eric Eric who Christian Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah he was different than Hans Christian Anderson. I found
Speaker 4: out different person.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you for the clarity.
Speaker 4: Game problem just to throw that out there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's so wild. God, we're going out quite a bit.
Speaker 5: I feel like, well you can't because Eric and I
Speaker 5: were making the movie and you came out for a
Speaker 5: little bit with your you guys had a dog.
Speaker 6: And Tristan Tristan the Bulldog.
Speaker 2: Trist In the Bulldog later remembers so much about your life.
Speaker 5: Are you remember about you remember my audition for Boy
Speaker 5: Meets World? No, I didn't remember you being on Boy
Speaker 5: Meets World at all. Like I remember showing up on
Speaker 5: crumbs and being like, because Boy Meets World is like
Speaker 5: I was so checked out by this season, like I
Speaker 5: didn't you know, Like but but you know, I remember
Speaker 5: things in my personal life like are you know friends
Speaker 5: and stuff? I remember details.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it was it was we all. It was
Speaker 6: a time. It was a time.
Speaker 2: It was a time. We can all agree on that
Speaker 2: a time.
Speaker 1: So looking back at Boy Meets World and this episode,
Speaker 1: seeing seventeen year old Maggie on screen, what would you
Speaker 1: like to say to her?
Speaker 6: Now? Oh my god, oh god, I would like to
Speaker 6: say to her? Uh wait, is this like a serious question,
Speaker 6: just like an acting question.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a however you want to take it
Speaker 1: however you want it to be, if, if if.
Speaker 6: There was something. And my heart breaks this a little
Speaker 6: bit because I like, I look and I think, like,
Speaker 6: oh man, like I want to like say, like just
Speaker 6: enjoy all of this, like the because I remember I
Speaker 6: really would be in my head a lot, and as
Speaker 6: you were just mentioning, like you get the note, you
Speaker 6: get the thing, and I remember like the worry and
Speaker 6: the and the like I was. I really was like
Speaker 6: socially awkward at the time. So I think what I
Speaker 6: would say is like, uh, let go and enjoy this,
Speaker 6: and uh, because everything's gonna everything's gonna be okay, everything's
Speaker 6: gonna everything's gonna work out. It's all gonna be okay.
Speaker 6: But I didn't know that at the time, so I
Speaker 6: don't know. That's probably more serious and heavy answer. But
Speaker 6: as I was watching it, all the memories even of
Speaker 6: that time in my life just came back, and I
Speaker 6: was like, oh man.
Speaker 1: You may not be surprised to know the majority of
Speaker 1: people I asked that question to say the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: Everybody says, the exact everybody said. Anybody's like, just enjoy it,
Speaker 2: just enjoy what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Ye stop stop stressing about it. It's all okay, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be fine.
Speaker 6: We're lucky. This is fun. This is fun, you know God.
Speaker 1: Yes, anyway, Well, thank you so much for joining us,
Speaker 1: for talking about this week of your life that you
Speaker 1: spent with us. We're so honored you were willing to
Speaker 1: come back and spend an hour with us today talking
Speaker 1: about this week of your life. We thought you were
Speaker 1: so wonderful in the episode. Your episode is the standout
Speaker 1: episode of the season. Where we are at this point.
Speaker 6: It's so special, like and the love connection thing, because
Speaker 6: don't you all go on to be together on the show. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so good, so good.
Speaker 2: You're so sweet for.
Speaker 6: Being such a jerk that I pushed me into the
Speaker 6: arms of the purse. Thay, thank you all so much
Speaker 6: for having me, and congratulations on the pod and like
Speaker 6: the success that you continue to still have from like
Speaker 6: the show. And it's just really lovely to see both
Speaker 6: your faces.
Speaker 5: Great to see you Magize.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 6: Bye bye Van.
Speaker 1: So fun to talk to her too. What a great, vibrant,
Speaker 1: bright personality she is.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's one of those things that you know
Speaker 5: when you hear about how kind of effortless the beginning
Speaker 5: of her career was as far as like this person
Speaker 5: saw her and recommended her. That this person recommended to that.
Speaker 5: And it's like when it's that like straight line of ascension,
Speaker 5: you know that there's something special, you know, some talent
Speaker 5: or some inner spark or something that just is undeniable,
Speaker 5: and it's like this person's going to have a career
Speaker 5: and we just kind of have to get out of
Speaker 5: her way, you know, and that there are people like that,
Speaker 5: they're just shooting stars and you're like, okay, and to
Speaker 5: be able, you know, the trick is to maintain it,
Speaker 5: you know, and to knock it burned out to not
Speaker 5: you know, and she hasn't. She's just loved it and
Speaker 5: enjoyed it and made it her career and taken it seriously.
Speaker 1: The very first trick was for her family to not
Speaker 1: overthink all the things there are, to overthink about all
Speaker 1: the reasons why we shouldn't pick up and move from
Speaker 1: Louisville to la and all the reasons why it could
Speaker 1: not work. Had had that not been a risk they took,
Speaker 1: which is a massive risk, it wouldn't have paid off.
Speaker 5: And she said brothers, like she has multiple others that
Speaker 5: moved in there. It sounds like they were younger. It's like,
Speaker 5: that's such a commitment. Think about the sacrifice that they
Speaker 5: made for you know. But I guess if you don't
Speaker 5: even have a car, the amount of money that your
Speaker 5: sixteen year old daughter might make is like she said, everybody, she.
Speaker 1: Said, it was not a ton of money, but at
Speaker 1: the time, it was more than they had ever seen.
Speaker 4: So that's that's in context.
Speaker 5: That's really hard to Yeah, that can turn south so quickly,
Speaker 5: like some people we've interviewed on this show whose parents
Speaker 5: were like just gobbling up that money and being you know,
Speaker 5: so child acting.
Speaker 2: Is weird, man, Yeah, it is. It's weird, very weird.
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