WEBVTT - Maggie Lawson Meets World 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.680 So I would like to share something with our listeners, 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:32.720 something that writer and Will were actually two of the 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.479 first people I told the news too. I was recently 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:41.760 diagnosed with DCIS, which stands for ductyl carcinoma in C two, 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:47.959 which is a form of breast cancer. It is very, 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:54.680 very very early. It's technically stage zero to be specific, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.080 just because I like too much information all the time. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:02.360 I was diagnosed with high grade DCIS with micro invasion, 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:07.520 and I'm going to be fine. I'm having surgery to 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.839 remove it. I'm going to be on some some follow 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.440 up treatment. I've had to make a lot of decisions 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.400 over the last couple of days. And the only reason 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:21.319 I'm sharing it is because you know, if you've ever 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.679 had those thoughts in your life where someone close to 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:28.440 you is diagnosed with cancer, somewhere in your mind you think. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.000 What would I do if this were me? What would 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:32.400 what would I do in this situation? 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:38.280 And for some reason, I had always thought like I 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:43.039 would suffer in silence. I would get the diagnosis, I 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.480 would not tell anyone. I would tell only my small 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:51.000 small group, and then I would just suck it up 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.000 and and and then when I'm on the other side, 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.800 of it. Then I would tell people, here, I've gone 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:01.360 through this journey, and here's what I did. And I 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.080 have as I've gotten older, I have really tried to 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.720 learn from the mistakes, or from not even just the mistakes. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.800 I've tried to learn from the experiences of others, sure, 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:11.800 because I don't think I did that enough when I 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.600 was younger. And one of the women that I have 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.920 learned from is Glennon Doyle, and she often talks about 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:22.760 how a lot of people like to save sharing their 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.400 experiences until they've come out on the other side of it, 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.440 so that they're able to say, here's the pretty picture 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:29.600 of it all, here's what I've. 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.040 Learned, the end of the story, the end of the story. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.880 But the place you have the most to learn from 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.600 is at the very beginning of a story, or in 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:40.800 the very messy middle of a story. 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.920 And my first. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.320 Instinct when I was diagnosed was to do that clam 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.519 up thing, was to be like, Okay, I have to 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.840 share this news with Jensen, of course, and then I 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.440 wanted to share the news with my mom and my 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.560 dad and my brother. And then outside of that, I 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.840 was like, I'm going to just pick a few select 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.359 friends and then what I realized say is the more 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:06.680 people I talked to, the more people had their own experiences, 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.919 either themselves being diagnosed with cancer or a family member 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:13.880 who's been diagnosed with cancer, and the world of resources 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.280 and experiences that can be shared by sharing it and 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.560 things that can be learned. The only reason I caught 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.040 this cancer when it is still stage zero is because 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.280 the day I got my text message that my yearly 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.640 mammogram had come up, I made the appointment. And the 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:35.360 fact that I am good about going to my doctor's appointments, 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.920 when truthfully it would be so much easier with as 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.320 busy as I am, with the fifty jobs I have 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.920 and the two kids and a husband and a house, 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.320 it would be so easy to say I don't have 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.200 time for that. I went to my mammogram last year. 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:49.720 I was fine last year. I don't need to go 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.040 again this year. It's gonna be fine. I was fine 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:52.640 last year. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:54.040 And I didn't. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.480 Instead, I was like, yeah, it's time, got to make 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.000 that appointment. And they found it so so so early 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:04.680 that I'm going to be fine. And so I want 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.360 to share this because I hope that it will encourage 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.880 anyone to get in there if it's time for your appointment, 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:17.280 if you've never had an appointment before, get in there. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.520 If you have to find out that you have cancer, 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.520 find out when it's at stage zero, if possible. And 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.960 so you know, I have some big decisions ahead of 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:28.720 me about what I want to do for treatment. I 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.160 don't have all the answers yet. I still have doctors, 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:35.479 I need to meet with, oncologists, radiation specialists, hormone therapists, 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:37.800 all kinds of stuff that I have still in front 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.400 of me to decide. But I did want to let 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.600 our dear listeners know because it may You know, I'm 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.479 We're going to try to have it not affect things 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.680 as far as our scheduling goes. I'm going to try 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.400 to make it for every episode, but you know, there 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.320 are a possibility we may have to put some things 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.760 on hold depending on what treatments I go through. And 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.600 I did just want everyone to know, I you know, 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:00.480 I'm this is not going to be one of those 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.000 times where my sweet Sleep of Death jokes are gonna 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:03.599 come to buy. 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:04.000 Me in the ass. 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:08.000 I'm gonna be fine, But I did want you all 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:09.919 to know, and well. 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.599 We love you, and you know that we got you. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.200 So whatever, whatever you need, we're here. And if you 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.839 need to miss some or we need to postpone stuff, 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:18.760 it's the last thing that. 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:19.520 You need to worry about. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.560 It's mind boggling right like right now, no joke. My 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:25.440 wife and I know four people, four friends that are 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.480 dealing with breast cancer specific Yeah, it's it's just it's 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.320 the age, it's the time we live in. I don't know, 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.120 but yeah, definitely, it's good to be more. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.839 Prolific, it seems everywhere and for men to you know, 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:42.400 prostate exams and colon oscar I mean, these are the 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.720 things that are super important, so don't put them off. 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.479 And we're so glad you didn't because you are into 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.520 fine and part of the day. You might have some 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:51.680 sucky days coming up, but. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:52.520 We're here for you. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.040 So whatever, I know, I know you are. 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.960 Thank you guys, and uh yeah, we love you, so, 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.360 thank you for being here for this episode of Podmeets World. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.240 I'm Daniel Fit, I'm Rader Strong, and I'm Wilfridel. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.719 Throughout the history of Boy Meets World, we had a 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.839 wide array of very talented guest stars, all just beginning 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.039 their journey in Hollywood. Sometimes they'd hang around for a bit, 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.280 like Adam Scott or Ethan Souplee, while other times they'd 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.800 just swing by, like Carrie Russell or that dolphin Disney World. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:32.760 It's hard not to notice that when you take a 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.840 look at the alumni from our show, many of the 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.640 names would go on to become our listeners and our 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.800 favorite actors. And this week we're excited to talk to 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.279 one of the talented thesbians always featured in those clickbait 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:48.240 articles with the headline twenty people you won't believe appeared 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.760 on Boy Meets World. She's best known as Detective Juliet 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.000 Jules O'Hara on the cult TV show Psych that ran 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:59.200 for eight seasons and three movies, with three more in development. 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.000 She'd also appear on Two and a half Men, Home Improvement, 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:07.279 Santa Clarita, Diet, Lethal Weapon, and Sorry Will four Hallmark movies. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:09.760 We will also talk to her about the two thousand 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.000 Disney movies. She starred in Model Behavior, where she played 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.600 two different characters alongside Kathy Lee Gifford and Justin Timberlake. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.360 But mostly we'll be talking to her about that one 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.240 episode of Boy Meets World. I Love You, Donna Karen, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.360 where she played a fitness obsessed love interest to Sean 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.960 while he also searched to find the owner of a 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:32.480 lost purse. We are thrilled to welcome Maggie Lawson. Hi 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:39.040 h hi, oh my goshall, thank you so much for 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:39.960 being here with us. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.080 Thank you so much for asking me to do this. 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:47.720 How fun? This is fun. I totally rewatched the episode. 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:49.320 Did you okay? Great? 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:53.160 Well, we are just so honored that you were willing 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.160 to come on and talk about this little blip on 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.400 your very impressive resume. 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.280 A yeah, go ahead. 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.960 So we figured we would start with a little origin story. 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.360 You were born in Louisville, Kentucky, right. 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.440 Right, Yeah, okay, How did you ever find yourself taking 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.000 the big trip to be a child actor in Los Angeles? 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.960 It was so it's such a wild story, and it's long, 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.800 so I'm gonna i'll make it really short. But my 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.240 sophomore year of high school, I uh, I came out 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:29.200 on like spring break and I got I got really lucky. 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.880 I met this casting director who then put me in 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:37.400 touch with my an agent, who basically was my agent 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:41.400 for like ten years. I got so I don't I mean, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:43.960 you guys probably remember this, But like there were like 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:48.080 they would hand out holding deals sometimes, you know, yeah, 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.160 and they'd give you a little bit of money and 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.440 say like we're gonna put you in something or whatever. 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.720 And I have no idea why. I read for one 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:59.800 show called Unhappily Ever after Yes, Nick Cox, NICKI Cox, Yeah, sure, 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.640 And I didn't get I had never done anything ever. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:05.520 It was the first thing my agent sent me on 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.160 and they wanted to like test me for something. I 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.480 didn't know what any of this was. And I realized 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.160 I was like the option person, you know, testing like 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.559 they bring their favorites and then they bring the options. 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:17.120 I was like the option person. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:18.000 But it went well. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.240 I didn't get it. I went it went pretty well. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.360 And because of that, they like offered me this like 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.560 little holding deal and said but at the time, you know, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.040 this of my family from Kentucky like whatever. We were like, 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.560 what like it was? It was, you know, it wasn't 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.640 a lot, but it was definitely more than we had 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.280 ever had. So we were like, Okay, maybe this should 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.120 be a move that we make. And then within a 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.200 year of me going back and forth between Louisville and 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.080 la they put me in a pilot like a Miller 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:50.160 boy at pilot. That was so like on the air, 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.320 sold on the air. Whatever, moved the family. It was 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:57.440 very exciting. Got here and they said they changed their mind. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.360 Oh not thinking of that. Yeah, but my brother and 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.320 I and my mom at that point were already here. 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.800 My brother was like looking like we were looking at 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.520 high schools and things. So we just stayed. And I 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:17.320 think this was my third job. Maybe I think ever 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.520 or fourth. I'm not gonna write N ninety seven. Yeah, 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:24.400 so anyway, that is like the very very short version 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:28.600 of just a wild, really wild story. But so that's 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:29.240 how I got here. 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.280 So you moved to LA from Louisville. Who is your 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.040 who becomes your LA crew? And did you guys go 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:37.520 to ed Debvick's. 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:44.160 Nice that's a yes, that's a yes. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:44.960 Laugh right there. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.800 I went to Edbevics like once, Okay, I didn't have 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.480 a crew. I was really awkward. I was very like 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.360 home bit like I was like I work and I 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:55.960 go home and that is what I do, and I 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.679 was not like I didn't really have a crew for 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.360 a long time until I was in my twenties. Yeah, 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.440 so I heard about Edubevics and I knew all the 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.720 cool kids went to Eduebevics, but I think maybe I 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.240 only went once and I was with my family and 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.520 it wasn't the best. But I it's just funny you 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:17.040 say that, because I remember being like everyone talks about as. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.240 I wish I had friends to go to ed Debvick's with. 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.600 Yeah, so you were fifteen then when you moved. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.320 Well, no, I was actually seventeen. I was fifteen when 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.319 I started coming out here, and I got really lucky. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.600 On one of the trips, I ended up like when 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.120 I would go back and forth, my agent will let 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.040 me stay with her. She'd like, we'll line up some 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.600 auditions while you come out. And I ended up getting 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.439 a movie called Pleasantville, and I had this very small 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.320 part in it. But it kept me here for like 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.679 three or four months because they ended up like this 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.280 group of kids, you know, in the background sometimes and 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.559 like we were just always around in the town of Pleasantville. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.800 So it bought me this time to be here. And 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:54.520 then it was during that that, like I would I 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.560 would maybe audition and get other things, and so eventually, 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.920 but the summer that we my family came out, that 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:04.199 was the summer of the pilot, so that would have 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.560 that was ninety seven, but I started going back and 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:11.880 forth like fifteen sixteen. Yeah, yeah, and so so just 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.320 like a few years ago, you know exactly. 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:15.600 That's what I sell everybody to. 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.120 But we should say you you are another one. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.640 We've had a string of guests come on the show 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.160 who haven't aged like at all. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:26.439 So it's true. 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:27.120 It's true. 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.000 You look the same. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.280 Thank you exactly the same. It's so rude. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.800 We look exactly the same, all of you. We look good. 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.520 This crew there was this is your crew. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.120 Now can we go to antics? 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:47.240 Absolutely so from our shared time as kid actors in 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.360 the nineties, do you remember anyone who was always at 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.040 like every audition you had. Who were the people you 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:54.480 were constantly up against? 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:01.720 Carrie Russell? Yeah, I saw Carry Russell a lot for 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:05.560 a little while, like Rachel McAdams. Yeah, but like not 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.080 you know, do you know Brie Blair? Do you know? Yes, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.120 it was like brid I always saw each other. We're 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:17.640 still friends. Those were probably my free that I feel 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:22.600 like I saw a lot. Marisa Coughlin, I saw a lot, Uh, 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.640 Katie Holmes, I would see I mean the Dawson's Creek 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.920 that Michelle William like that like that crew a little bit. Yeah, 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.760 that's nothing. Yeah, it's so funny to talk about now. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.240 I know, thinking about it, it's a whole other life. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.880 It's a whole other and it isn't it isn't like 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:42.199 it's so weird. Yeah, and here we are literally, yeah. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:42.440 Here we are. 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:43.400 Yeah. 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.560 So what did your family back in Kentucky think when 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:50.320 you move here and you kind of have success right away? 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.200 Were they surprised or did? Were they like we always 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.200 knew she was destined for big things. 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.760 Oh that's very sweet. I don't. I think they were 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.880 both I think supportive, and then I also think there 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.400 was a little bit of like you're you all are 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.520 out of your mind, like this is this is insane 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.080 and yet you know, I mean, we didn't even like 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.040 to give you a little like background in Kentucky, we 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.240 didn't even own a car, like that's where we were, 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.120 Like my grandparents had to give us a car to 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.160 like drive to Los Angeles. So it was a whole 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:24.160 I'm actually glad now that I look back on it, 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.160 that we we didn't know we were so ignorant. It 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.760 was just, you know, so we hadn't and I think 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:35.080 about my mom now, who's like my age now, but 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.560 like with three kids and a teenager being like, I'm 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.920 gonna go to LA and like, it's just so wild 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.080 to me when I think about those moments and how 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:46.920 we just we just did it. I don't know, we 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.280 just did it. But but I don't think we thought. 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:51.800 We didn't even have you know, you don't. We didn't 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.200 have the information to even think that far. So it 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.320 was more just like, I don't know, let's give it 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.080 a shot, and then you know, we stayed. My mom 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.080 actually has since me back to Kentucky, but my brothers 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.880 and I are we're all we're all here still, wow, 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:08.840 greatly rightly, I mean, I want to hear like, I'm 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.240 sure we all have those versions, you know. 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.400 Yeah that was yeah, oh yeah, my mom says to 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.920 this day, my mom says, if I knew now what 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.800 I knew what I know, I would never let you 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.720 get into it. And she's like, and I guess, looking back, 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.560 I'm happy I didn't because it all worked out and 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.040 you're fine, and like I didn't have anything to worry about. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.840 She's like, but had I known what we were up 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.000 against and what it was going to be like I 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:34.680 would have been like, oh no, I'm too afraid for 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:35.040 all of. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:36.880 That, can you imagine? I do think. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.040 I think part of what we compare it to now though, 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:41.920 is like what it's like to be an adult actor, 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:46.240 which is like very different when you're that age, especially 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.120 back then, if you were getting parts and getting feed 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.680 like positive feedback, it would keep happening, do you know 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.240 what I mean? Or maybe don't, like it's I guess 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.440 the pool was just so much smaller. There was so 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.920 much less competition that if you worked and if you 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.640 were responsible and mature, like you would keep working. And 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.080 I think that there was like a it was just 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.640 a snowball effect, you know. And I think that if 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:13.040 like obviously you were getting everything, like things were coming 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.280 your way. What's crazy to me is that like when 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.560 that when you got the show and there and then 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.960 they didn't you know, you move, made the move and 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:23.080 they yanked it from under you, Like that would have 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:24.840 been the do or die moment for me, like as 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.400 a parent, like do I keep putting my kid through 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.760 this kind of like yeah, I would be most worried 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.720 about like just your fragile you know, But I mean 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.760 maybe or not, maybe she looked at you and you 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.200 were like, I got this. I'm okay, I'm rolling into 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:37.680 the next job. 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:38.280 And she was like, I. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:39.080 Could see that. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.280 That's that's the tough skin thing that you do need 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.760 from this industry, and maybe you developed it because of 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:44.520 that experience. 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.040 So yeah, but telling the stories about how a lot 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:48.400 of us got here, I mean when I say these 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.120 stories out loud, my parents are like. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.880 I can't believe we let you do some of the Yeah, 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.320 we let you do. I can't believe we didn't. 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.720 And not to sound like that, but it really was 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.560 a different time. Yes, yes, I know everything was different. 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:03.720 Then, yep. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.080 I mean we barely had what email. I mean, we 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.680 were gonna writ tagers and texts to like go to auditions, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.000 and I think, like even that the excess, Like I 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.840 just think if I'm with you, well, and my mom 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:17.680 says the same thing, like, oh my god. 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:18.360 Yes. 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.520 Now, before we get into your appearance on Boy Meets World. 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.200 Can we talk model behavior? 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.080 Okay, So this is a Disney movie you book in 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.800 two thousand and you play two girls, a model and 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:37.240 a nerd, of course, and your love interest is Justin 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:41.720 Timberlake and also Kathy Lee Gifford and her son Cody 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.440 are in it too. Was this movie as insane as 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:50.119 it sounds? Yes, tell me more, tell me everything. 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.320 I'll tell you everything. It was so it was my 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:57.560 first like lead thing where like, oh my god, how 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.639 did I I am that? But I was so excited. 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.240 I was like, yeah, they get to play two characters, 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.480 and I'm you don't really stink into this, and oh 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.919 my god. I was so excited. And and at the 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.800 time they were like, we're going to try to you know, 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.040 stunt casts or get you know, somebody for your mom 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:12.760 and somebody for the eleven Trists, and they were saying 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:16.720 all of this, and then I heard rumors of, uh, 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:20.000 this this justin Timberlake person. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.080 But you didn't know who he was in the year 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:26.760 two thousand. No, I was not like ever where were you? 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:30.680 This was? This was this was peak boy band mania. 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:30.959 I know. 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.719 And it wasn't like, yes, I saw TRL but like 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.000 boy bands. I was like listening to like Radiohead and like. 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:42.280 You were cool. I get it. I god, very clear, 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:43.480 very clear. 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.920 I wasn't cool. I wasn't. I was like, I just wasn't. 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:48.840 It wasn't really so I wasn't following it. I knew 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.600 the Backstreet Boys were huge, but I was like, who 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:53.240 is in Sync? I don't know who? 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:59.359 I'm with you, No, it's pop culture. If you're not 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.680 into like pop culture, even while you're making pop culture, 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.320 you cannot be into it. You could just be put 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.760 on the blinders like I did. I would never have 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.560 known who n Sync was if we hadn't met them Danielle. 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.520 Yeah, if Danielle wasn't dating and they were hanging. 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:16.200 Danielle, I forgot about that. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.720 I mean, listen, I'm trying to not be offended now, 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.040 but like hearing you say I knew who the Backstreet 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:22.879 Boys were, but I'm not aware of in Sync. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.639 It just brings me back to nineteen ninety eight, nineteen 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.040 ninety nine and having to be like. 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:29.600 The backs are good, They're justice good. 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.960 Honestly, they are better, They're better better. Look, that's just me. 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:35.080 What did I say? 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.919 Like I was kind of a socially, I just was 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.600 removed a little bit from and so I was like, oh, 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:42.439 everyone was like, oh my god, Justin really is going 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:43.960 to play the Elevenders side I look him up. I 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.240 was like, I don't know who he is, and I 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.400 was and everyone was like, this is a really big deal. 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.280 So I got very excited. And Kathy Wee Gifford at 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:52.879 the time as well. I was like, oh, this is 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:54.840 the best you know, she was on I don't know, 0:19:54.880 --> 0:20:00.120 the Today Show or whatever and regis yes, So I 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.600 I that was that seemed like I was like, this 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.080 is I got very intimidated very quickly, and yet I 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:06.960 didn't really even know who it was. But I will 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:10.159