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Speaker 4: So it's true.

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Speaker 6: You look the same.

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Speaker 4: Thank you exactly the same. It's so rude.

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Speaker 6: We look exactly the same, all of you. We look good.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's very sweet. I don't. I think they were

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Speaker 5: That's that's the tough skin thing that you do need

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Speaker 3: So yeah, but telling the stories about how a lot

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Speaker 4: I can't believe we let you do some of the Yeah,

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Speaker 6: And not to sound like that, but it really was

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Can we talk model behavior?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this is a Disney movie you book in

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you everything. It was so it was my

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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, they get to play two characters,

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Speaker 6: and I'm you don't really stink into this, and oh

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Speaker 2: But you didn't know who he was in the year

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Speaker 2: two thousand. No, I was not like ever where were you?

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Speaker 2: This was? This was this was peak boy band mania.

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Speaker 2: You were cool. I get it. I god, very clear,

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Speaker 6: I wasn't cool. I wasn't. I was like, I just wasn't.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't really so I wasn't following it. I knew

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Speaker 5: I'm with you, No, it's pop culture. If you're not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if Danielle wasn't dating and they were hanging.

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Speaker 6: Danielle, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 2: It just brings me back to nineteen ninety eight, nineteen

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Speaker 4: The backs are good, They're justice good.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, they are better, They're better better. Look, that's just me.

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Speaker 6: So I got very excited. And Kathy Wee Gifford at

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Speaker 6: this day when I see Justin it's like this it

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I was like, and especially I had done

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: just whatever, but it's.

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00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 4: Sure it helped.

438
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 2: That's great. Helped.

439
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so nice.

440
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 6: And anyway, so justin it was one of the greatest

441
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 6: experiences ever. Like I I hold that it is so

442
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 6: sweet and it like anytime anybody brings it up, it's

443
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 6: such a fun movie that I know was like because

444
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 6: it was his first thing. Although I I I kind

445
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 6: of talked him into letting him grow his hair out.

446
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 6: I know you.

447
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 2: Are you responsible for the long Top promm?

448
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 4: You did it? Long Top?

449
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 6: I was like, He's like, did you say long Top problem?

450
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: Long Top promen?

451
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 6: I love you, You're the best.

452
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks good, but it's a ton of sodium

453
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 4: for the record.

454
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 6: And with too much.

455
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 4: Okay he was.

456
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 6: It was very funny. I remember having a whole conversation

457
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 6: about it. I'm not saying I'm responsible for it, but

458
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 6: I will definitely take credit grow growing the hair out.

459
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 6: And then I felt really bad because I felt like

460
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 6: you got a lot and I felt like it was

461
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 6: my fault. It was my fault that Justin grew his

462
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 6: hair out and got all the leg And I'll.

463
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 2: Be honest, I was a fan of it too. I

464
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: was a fan of it. I liked it when it

465
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: had grown out. I did. I liked it.

466
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 3: But I know a fan and I know we were

467
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 3: just talking about this briefly, but oh my god, how

468
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 3: good was Radio had been in the late nineties For

469
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 3: the record that I know they were. The first album

470
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: was Creep their first album, because it was just it

471
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: was so good.

472
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 6: I would put like at night, I would just leave

473
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 6: well the Bens. Yeah, yeah, that was that ended up

474
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 6: becoming my favorite.

475
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I was talking Mario, this is fun, but

476
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: I Radiohead podcast Welcome to Creep.

477
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 6: We'd like to yes, yeah, but I I was I

478
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 6: would just put it on, repeating I would.

479
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a great album.

480
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 6: I was so good anyway. So yeah, it's fun to

481
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 6: talk about Radiohead too.

482
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 3: It's kind of the Weezer Weezer Radiohead, that whole kind

483
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 3: of thing. That's when the Blue album came out. There's

484
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of different stuff.

485
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 6: Now.

486
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's go from podcast Head back to pod

487
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: meets World.

488
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 4: Fine.

489
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 2: Do you remember auditioning for your part on Boy Meets World.

490
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't I.

491
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: Remember being on Boy.

492
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Speaker 6: I mean they know it's my IMDb. I remember. I

493
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 6: do remember one thing. I remember being like, oh, it

494
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 6: was kind of fun to play a jerk. Oh yeah,

495
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 6: I felt like I was always like the sweet. Yeah.

496
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 6: So I don't know if I remember that from the

497
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 6: actual episode or from auditioning.

498
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: I do.

499
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 6: I do remember getting I remember my trailer. I remember

500
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 6: because I had a little Uh, I think I had

501
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 6: a trailer outside the stage.

502
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: Because we were at CBS at this point.

503
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 6: CBS Radford, right, yeah, yeah, And so I do remember

504
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 6: that because I was like, it was I think the

505
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 6: first time I had been in like a an actual trailer.

506
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 6: I'd been in like little dressing rooms and things. So

507
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 6: I mean that's my my, my, my memory, and I

508
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 6: remember it being really hot in there, oh, in my trailer.

509
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: But I'm glad to know we treated our guest stars.

510
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 6: It was good. It was good. But you know, it's

511
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 6: weird these things that like stay with you, Like I

512
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 6: kind of remember the smell of the trail. Okay, we

513
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 6: don't have to get into all of that, but don't.

514
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 4: We trailers on on rat he's.

515
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 6: Like little Yeah, there were.

516
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: It was really little honeywagons.

517
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,120
Speaker 6: It was also really nice, not for us.

518
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: No, we had the rooms in the little.

519
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: Rooms like the stairs, but they're okay, So where were

520
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: the where were the trailers?

521
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 6: Then?

522
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: In relation to our stage.

523
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 6: It was like right outside the stage, right, wasn't it

524
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 6: like right?

525
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: It okay, No, you're right, we know, you're sure, you're right.

526
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 5: I'm sure you're right. I'm trying to remember where they

527
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 5: were in relationships. We just will it was where guest

528
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 5: casts stayed, so we never went there.

529
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: You know.

530
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 5: It was like a whole other section that wasn't really

531
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 5: where we were.

532
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, god, it.

533
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 6: Was fun though. I do remember. I remember, I remember

534
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 6: shooting that. I do remember the scene. I remember you

535
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 6: doing this. Yeah, yeah, it was so good. Rewatching the episode, God,

536
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 6: the show was so good.

537
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: Well, you watched you got to watch the best episode

538
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: you were in, the best episode of season five, hands down,

539
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: it was.

540
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: You're right.

541
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: If you were like, let's do a sampling and you

542
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: picked one episode from season five and it's the one

543
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: you're in from from beginning to end, you'd be like,

544
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm going to go back and watch all

545
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: these episodes and then it's really it's really good and

546
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: you really added to it. Honestly, You're We talked about

547
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: what a kind of difficult role that was to end.

548
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: You were so good and you were so funny in it.

549
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: Did you before it? So you don't really remember the audition?

550
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Were you familiar with the show at all before you

551
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: came on? Did you know who any of us were?

552
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 6: I mean I knew the show, yes, Okay, yeah, I

553
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 6: knew it well enough. Absolutely, of course it was massive.

554
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 6: I was so excited. I was so excited. I mean,

555
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 6: that's a good call. World was like, I'm sorry, boy,

556
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 6: meet It's world was uh is was uh So there

557
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 6: was like such an emotional parts. I laughed out loud

558
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 6: like multiple times watching the episode, and I was also like,

559
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 6: this is really emotional. I know I have friends now

560
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 6: whose kids are going back and watching. Oh yeah, the

561
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 6: og like watching just because it's it's a really good show.

562
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 6: It's a really really good show. So I put it

563
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 6: like a level up of like not knowing who and

564
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 6: sync is because I feel like this was really special

565
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 6: and everyone everyone knew it, and that's how people talked

566
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 6: about it even at the time, like this is like

567
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 6: an this is not just like a comedy, you know,

568
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 6: like a before I mentioned like another show, I want

569
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 6: to Yeah, this was this was special. It's really good.

570
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: Were you by any chance obsessed with fitness in real life?

571
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 6: Not really, But I was really like honored that someone's

572
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 6: you know, that feeling of.

573
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: Like wow, you they see something in me.

574
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 6: As a as a workout like a crazy workout person.

575
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 6: Like I remember I did not see myself that way

576
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 6: at all or I remember being like, well this, this is

577
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 6: kind of cool. I'm gonna run this maybe for a

578
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 6: little bit. But no, I I had never I had

579
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 6: never seen myself that way and also like this idea

580
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 6: I think at this time. I do remember, though, like

581
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 6: being aware of like personal training and in a way

582
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 6: that like I feel like I hadn't before because there

583
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 6: was like a time there, I feel like in the

584
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 6: early two thousands where there were all this stuff that

585
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 6: was like oh yeah, diets and workouts and like there

586
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 6: was and maybe that's just what I became aware of

587
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 6: and it's all been like that. But I was like,

588
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 6: I remember being like, oh, this episode makes sense, yes now.

589
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: So you you and Writer had your big scene together,

590
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: and and Ben and I were obviously there as well.

591
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: What do you remember, if anything about young Writer or

592
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: or any of any of us that week.

593
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 6: I remember you were so you were so nice that

594
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 6: you were like, uh, you were so warm and so welcoming.

595
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 6: I did not think I was very good, like so

596
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 6: I was like very like. I was like, oh, I'm

597
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 6: not I'm like not hitting this. I remember I think

598
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 6: getting a note about making a face, which I actually

599
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 6: saw when I rewatched it. I was like, oh my god.

600
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 6: I remember getting this note about like like you say

601
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 6: something about meat and I'm like eat fat to burn fat,

602
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 6: or I make some jokes like this. Yeah, and I

603
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 6: was supposed to give like I don't really know if

604
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 6: I agree with that, but I'm saying it to like

605
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 6: make him feel better. Look, and I just felt like

606
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 6: I couldn't nail it. So I you know, I felt

607
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 6: like a little I had so much fun doing it,

608
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 6: but I was also I was so new. So Danielle,

609
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 6: I remember you being so nice writer. We like talked

610
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 6: about the scene.

611
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember you.

612
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 6: You were like we like sat and like had a

613
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 6: conversation about like what was going on in the scene.

614
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 6: And I love that. I felt like I was like

615
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 6: I hadn't had a lot of that kind of like

616
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,239
Speaker 6: prep and thought like going into scenes like it. So

617
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 6: as we were like doing it over the course of

618
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 6: the week, I remember it being like like we had

619
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 6: conversations about like the characters. I felt like I was

620
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 6: on one of the most profession sets I had definitely

621
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 6: at that point I ever been on. Uh, you all were

622
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 6: like so so so wonderful. It was so much fun. Michael, Yes,

623
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 6: we met, I didn't know.

624
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: We're sure you met at a run.

625
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 6: Also, just like like the nicest, warmest group of people.

626
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 6: I loved it, and it's Mike Michael, the Michael. Yeah.

627
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 6: It was also just every everybody was wonderful. It was wonderful.

628
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 6: It's a very like fun experience and like a memory

629
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 6: other than I having, Like, am I am I getting this?

630
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 6: Is this funny? Am I being funny? Am I too? Me?

631
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Every everyone who ever? I mean including us. I was

632
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: gonna say every guest star, but it wasn't just the

633
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: guest stars. It was always us. There were the note

634
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: sessions after the run throughs. No matter how confident you

635
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: went into them, you always left feeling like, well, I

636
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: didn't nail it.

637
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: I suck, I am not good.

638
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: Everyone else I feel like is good and it's me

639
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: that didn't nail it, and tomorrow will be better if

640
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: I am better. And then you would find out the

641
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: next day whether or not you had made it better

642
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: or not.

643
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I forgot about note dicussions.

644
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: Right.

645
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 6: I don't think they do those anymore?

646
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: Right, No, not with the whole cast didn't.

647
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 7: Then to that degree, like that was were they were,

648
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 7: they were, they were involved, we talk about this a

649
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 7: lot on the on the podcast because.

650
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: There were a lot of on screen kisses going on

651
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: back there. I feel like there are significantly less on

652
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: screen kisses on TV today than there used to be

653
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: because you go in for the.

654
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: This.

655
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 6: Every thing I did then was just somebody. Yeah, you

656
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 6: had to make it out. It was like a thing that.

657
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: Was like, all right, well, who am I making out

658
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: with this week? Yes?

659
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so true. Though there was I know lot

660
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 6: of that. There was a lot of kissing. I know

661
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 6: now that I'm thinking about it, I'm like, I don't

662
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 6: know that I see that as much anymore.

663
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: I really don't see teenagers kissing that offense.

664
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: They don't have it nearly as much as they did.

665
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: But so wait, so you were justin Timberlake's first on

666
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: screen kiss.

667
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 4: Who was your first on screen kiss?

668
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 6: My first? Oh my god?

669
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: Oh you all?

670
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: I want to know the I want to know every

671
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: I already know. I want to know every detail of

672
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: this story.

673
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 6: This is crazy. I was a pleasant phil Okay, So

674
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 6: I read for the Marley Shelton role in that, which

675
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 6: is Toby McGuire's love interest, and the director Gary Ross

676
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 6: was like at my audition, he said, you know, you're

677
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 6: too green. You haven't done anything, but like, I want

678
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 6: to see you do something in this I just can't.

679
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 6: It can't be this. So I'm gonna put you in

680
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 6: the town. And I played this character named Lisa Anne.

681
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 6: There were three like girls like we were a little

682
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 6: click and pleasant fille. And on the very first day

683
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 6: he came up to me, this is a horrible story.

684
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell it. He came up to me and

685
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 6: he said, we've decided it's a great story, but we've

686
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 6: decided to you know, there's one character that it comes

687
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 6: to color before all of the others, and it's because

688
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 6: she discovers sexual feelings. And I'm sixteen, and he says,

689
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 6: you know, I think we're gonna make that your character

690
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 6: because and I saw it in the script that Lisa Anne,

691
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 6: my character has this moment where she's making out with somebody.

692
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 6: And I remember in the script it said all tongues

693
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 6: and hands that was description of it you and I

694
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 6: was like, oh okay. And i'd heard about stage kisses

695
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 6: at that time or you know screenca I was like,

696
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 6: can't be that bad. And dad, you know, and so

697
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 6: Gary's like, are you comfortable with that, and I was like,

698
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 6: can I just ask a question, what does it mean

699
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 6: when it says like all tongues and hands? He said,

700
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 6: it means exactly what it says in the script, and

701
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 6: are you okay? Like he was really kind about it,

702
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 6: like I just want to make sure you're comfortable about it.

703
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 6: If not, well, and of course me, I was like,

704
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 6: I I.

705
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: Uh, okay, I want this job.

706
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 5: I want to go and I really if you're not,

707
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 5: we'll replace you with somebody else. You will always find

708
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 5: another sixteen year old who will do this.

709
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 6: So we we on the very first day that these

710
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 6: scenes are are maybe going to happen. He he says,

711
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 6: we're have you have you met the person you're going

712
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 6: to be uh making out with? Because and hands with

713
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 6: bugles and hands and he he said, because he doesn't.

714
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 6: He didn't have at the time any lines. So he said,

715
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 6: we we picked somebody that we sort of felt, you know,

716
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 6: you all this is horrible. I sound horrible. So he's like,

717
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 6: he's like, let's let's I'm going to bring you a

718
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 6: picture of him, and you tell me, and I'm going

719
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 6: to also bring you some of the other people that

720
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 6: we were considering.

721
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 5: The lineup.

722
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 4: You were casting. You got to cast your own.

723
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: Let talk, let talk.

724
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 4: Let her talk.

725
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 6: So my my again, like my sixteen year old self,

726
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 6: Maggie now would be like overthinking this, like don't say

727
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 6: anything like everything's okay, yes, yes, sure like whatever. At

728
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 6: the time, I was so I didn't know, So I

729
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 6: was just like, yeah, no, like I I can, I

730
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 6: can I look at the.

731
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 2: Next Yeah, I love you, Marie?

732
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 6: Is me in my mind? You all it feels like

733
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 6: the sad Is this all? Like from the memory of it,

734
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 6: I'm sure it was like don photos. So I go

735
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 6: with them going through the photos and I'm like, who's this?

736
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 6: And he said, oh, you know, this is so and

737
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 6: so he's you know, he was like a basketball player

738
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 6: from Wake Forest and he just came down whatever.

739
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

740
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 6: I just slid the picture and I thought I was like,

741
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 6: this guy's attractive and I okay, And so he said

742
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 6: it's great, Well, we'll go ask him if he's okay

743
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 6: with this. So he goes and he finds them, we

744
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 6: meet and he's like, are you too okay with this?

745
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 6: I got to say for you know, like the care

746
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 6: that I feel like he took around this like.

747
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: The progressive exactly pretty progressive for the time.

748
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I'm so so grateful for it. I meet this person,

749
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 6: he's so sweet, and we were both like we've he's obviously.

750
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 6: He was like, I'm just here making extra money. Is

751
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 6: like a background performer. Uh, really, I'm not a master,

752
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 6: and like now I'm now I'm going to be making

753
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 6: out with you on the scene. I was like, well,

754
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 6: I've never made out with anybody in the scene, and

755
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 6: he was like, are we supposed to practice? And I

756
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 6: was like, I don't know, I don't. I don't know

757
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 6: that it's like that, but but we can definitely talk

758
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 6: about what we're both comfortable with. And I don't know

759
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 6: if you know this person, but you probably do. Do

760
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 6: you know Mark Lucas? Do you know he was not fuff?

761
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 6: He's in like a bunch of Christmas movie like whatever.

762
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 6: It was Mark Lucas.

763
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Yes.

764
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 6: When I see him, I'm like, it's the funniest story that.

765
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: You gaate story. I'm sorry, no, it's great.

766
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 6: It's just so silly.

767
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 4: He owes you his career.

768
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 6: But it's more it's just I think back of like

769
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 6: these crazy stories now and like like he brought me

770
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 6: my So that was my first on screen kiss and

771
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 6: it was all It really was all tongues and hands

772
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 6: and it was not like, you know, we're we're going

773
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 6: to talk about how we're stage kissing here. So Mark,

774
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 6: you know, thank you for being a wonderful partner. But

775
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 6: then I had to like pull myself back going forward

776
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 6: because I was like, well, that's not how it is, right, Yeah,

777
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 6: So yeah, it was very different. But I got to

778
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 6: bring a lot of experience to justin Timberlake, so I

779
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 6: felt like I could speak to it in a very

780
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 6: it's awful you all, I'm so sorry.

781
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: I already told the story on here how unbelievably thrilled

782
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: I was. There's an episode we have coming up where

783
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: I get to, uh, I make out with somebody. And

784
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, at this point, I had been kissing Ben

785
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: week after week, and that at this point was like

786
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: second nature. We had been doing that a lot, so

787
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: anytime one of us got to kiss somebody new, it

788
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: was very much like.

789
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: Who are they gonna cast? Who's who's it gonna be?

790
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: Who's think?

791
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 6: I know, like even now, I feel like if I'm

792
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 6: reading for something, you have a chemistry reader, you have

793
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 6: like you know, it's a weird thing. That we do

794
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 6: and like, so it's still to I still I almost

795
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 6: feel the exact same way I did then about it.

796
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 6: Now there's still like this I don't know, curiosity and

797
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 6: then also like it's it's it's a weird, weird thing

798
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 6: that we do and it's also fun. Yeah, very yeah.

799
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 1: Anyway do people Do people ever recognize you from Boy

800
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 1: Meets Work?

801
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 6: No?

802
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's not the one they go to.

803
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 6: I get a lot of like, uh, are you Alicia Silverstone.

804
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 6: That's actually I get the most. But I do get

805
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 6: get a lot of like messages or dms of oh

806
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 6: my god, I forgot you did an episode of this.

807
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 6: I was watching it the other day or my right,

808
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 6: I was watching it whatever. So yes, I it's still

809
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 6: it plays a lot. I feel like it's oh.

810
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's still.

811
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: It's still always on.

812
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 6: How specially you all? You all look great. This is like,

813
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 6: what a cool thing after thirty something years that you're like,

814
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 6: we get to talk about these these times.

815
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: You know, we we really are I would I would

816
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: downplay it, but we really are very proud of the podcast,

817
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: Like we really are very proud of what we've what

818
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: we've done, our friendship, our relationship, are like, we're just

819
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: we're proud, and we we love it and we don't

820
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: take it lightly, and we we recognize what an immense

821
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: honor and privilege it is to still be cared about

822
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: in any capacity and to have been a part of

823
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: something that has less left and impact.

824
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 2: Act on people.

825
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: So we I'm not going to let that go without

826
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: telling you that it really does mean something to us.

827
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: So thank you.

828
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 6: It's beautiful. I mean, it's really really really special. I'm

829
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 6: really happy for you all. Yeah. On the podcast, you know,

830
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 6: it's also very successful and it really lived. This show

831
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 6: really lives, like it's rare to say that about a show.

832
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Well, the year after you were with us on on

833
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World, you went on and did Home Improvement,

834
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: which set was more fun.

835
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 6: Oh definitely Boy Meets World.

836
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, yeah.

837
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was the I was the older woman. I

838
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 6: was in college, and I was as Zachary Taye, Brian's

839
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 6: old love interest. So much kissing.

840
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: God, you're right, I know.

841
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: It was so much kissing as so.

842
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: So much kissing.

843
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was every week for a while. It was

844
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 4: every week, especially Rider.

845
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: And I was just what it just this week, this week,

846
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: this week, Okay, here we go, and if you.

847
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 6: Were right, you guys were the single, you know, the

848
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 6: yeah wow and you're both You're so good too. Everyone's

849
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 6: so good on the show, like really talented people. You

850
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 6: all are.

851
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: Thank you.

852
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: Well.

853
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: We like to think that we have a cult audience.

854
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: But you would go on to play Detective Juliette O'Hara

855
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: on Psych and all of its resulting films, and this

856
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: has become a show with an elite group of diehard fans.

857
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: Could you have ever predicted what that show would become?

858
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 6: Oh my god, we didn't know anyone. I mean USA

859
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 6: when when we did that, see, I mean they had

860
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 6: Monk at that point, but like it was even I

861
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 6: remember reading. I was like USA is doing a series

862
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 6: and what is true? It was so it wasn't even

863
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 6: on the map really right other than Monk. So not

864
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 6: only did I not have I could never have predicted

865
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 6: or seen this kind of uh, you know life for

866
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 6: the show. It was more like, uh, we didn't know

867
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 6: anybody was watched. We didn't know any We were in

868
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 6: such a bubble in Vancouver when we were doing it

869
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 6: as well, Like it was it was really a shock

870
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 6: to us. It was really social media, which at the

871
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 6: time when like Twitter was sort of starting, I think

872
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 6: there was MySpace and that's where we saw. We were like, oh,

873
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 6: people talk about the show and these on social media.

874
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 6: We started to see that a little bit, and then

875
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 6: I think like season three we went to a comic

876
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 6: con and that's when we were like, oh, there's there's

877
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 6: this is this is a thing. But no, my god, no,

878
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 6: I I I'm so grateful for it. And and but

879
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 6: could never have I mean, you know, oh, no, this

880
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 6: is a fun, silly, nerdy little show. And then it

881
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 6: was now, it's now, it's again, it still lives. It's great.

882
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because it's still fun film.

883
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: When you guys do the movies, would you keep making

884
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: psych films forever?

885
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: If you could forever?

886
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 6: Oh we have we have so much fun. We are

887
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 6: just as close off screen as we are on Still.

888
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 6: I mean, they're my family. I truly like we have

889
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 6: a psych or our family, a psych family text thread

890
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 6: that we are every somebody's on every day like we

891
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 6: we are in constant it's it's I'm blown away, but yeah,

892
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 6: it's it's a it's a real true I know everyone

893
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 6: says that like we were a family, but we we

894
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 6: really are after all this time and everything we've been

895
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 6: through too, I think, yeah, we we got we just

896
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 6: we hit the we hit the jackpot. It's just like

897
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 6: you all, you know, it's like so rare for these

898
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 6: things to happen, uh like this, and we're so lucky

899
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 6: when they do.

900
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 5: I remember I was hanging out with you right right

901
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 5: before you got went to Vancouver and you got psych

902
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 5: and you had been doing like series after series, and

903
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 5: I remember that It's so funny because I was trying

904
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 5: to think, like what was like because you were kind

905
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 5: of like, I don't know about the show. I don't

906
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 5: know anything. You know, you liked the script, but I

907
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 5: but it was also that it was single camera and

908
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 5: you had been doing so much multi camera and you

909
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 5: would like just just miss some big multi camera show

910
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 5: or something. And then you were I remember you just

911
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 5: we were at the we went to the movies, like

912
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 5: I forget what we were going to see, and you

913
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 5: were like, I'm just gonna do it. I'm going to go,

914
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 5: you know, and like the town knows, like because somebody

915
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 5: said to you, like we know you can do multi camera.

916
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 5: There's there'll be other shows if this one doesn't. Mark

917
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 5: story Writer because I remember you were like because you

918
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 5: were leaving, you were like going to Vancouver and it

919
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 5: was like a big move and you.

920
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 2: Were like banging out.

921
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 5: Well, so I came and I guest starred on Crumbs

922
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 5: and that's how we reconnected. And then we had the

923
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 5: same manager, right with Ellen, and then you were dating

924
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 5: yeah and so and Brooke and so like we became

925
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 5: couple friends in two thousand and four ish or whatever,

926
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 5: right when I moved back to LA two thousand and five,

927
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 5: so that's right. And then I remember you like left

928
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 5: to do psych and and then I never saw you again.

929
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 5: She got you, but I just remember the conversation, and

930
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 5: now I'm remembering that. I I know what the conflict was.

931
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 5: It was that it wasn't a major network that it

932
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 5: was USA. Was was was the risk that you were taking,

933
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 5: and you were like, is anybody going to watch this?

934
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 5: Is this going to be a thing? And you were like,

935
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 5: but you were excited to do single camera because you

936
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 5: had done so much multi camera and it was like,

937
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 5: obviously that that single camera is going to become more

938
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 5: of the thing, and you were like, I'm gonna go

939
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 5: do this show. It's a detective thing.

940
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 6: I don't know, I'm a little blown away by I like, I.

941
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 5: Just wish I could remember what movie we went to see,

942
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: because I.

943
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 4: Like, okay, so.

944
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 2: Two thousand and four, we're going to see probably Knows.

945
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 4: And then you know, like that kind of thing.

946
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 6: It's going to help screening of mohave. Did you know

947
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 6: we all sit at a table after we went to

948
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 6: the it was at the Grove, remember, and we went

949
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 6: to like oo's yeah, so Eric right, and a woman

950
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 6: like an executive I was at a party and some

951
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 6: like executive from Fox who I had known, like since

952
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 6: I had moved to LA. She was like just somebody

953
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 6: I'd check in with. And I saw her and she

954
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 6: was like, stop stop with the multi camp, Like we

955
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 6: know you can do it.

956
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 5: How do you remember because you remember it because we

957
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 5: were It was like a big moment and you were like,

958
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to do I need to like expand

959
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 5: my repertoire and I'm going to do this single camera show,

960
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 5: even though it's USA and even though maybe nobody will

961
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 5: see it and I have to move all the way

962
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 5: to Vancouver, I'm going to do it.

963
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: And that's the chances, the chances of not only getting

964
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: on a show, that's going to be successful, but a

965
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 3: show that's then literally going to help put the.

966
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 4: Entire network on the map.

967
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: As I mean, you are the chances of that are

968
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 3: so slim that it is a risk because you're like, well,

969
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: I mean, what are the but it did, it turned

970
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 3: around the entire network.

971
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 5: As an actor, you just always want to go with

972
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 5: something that's already established, it's already successful, and you know,

973
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 5: at that time, everybody was hoping to get friends. Everybody

974
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 5: is hoping to get like the huge multi camera in

975
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 5: town job that was going to be a hit and

976
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 5: then open up all these other doors. So doing something

977
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 5: like on a cable network or out of town or

978
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 5: single camp, you know, it was all risk. But yeah,

979
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 5: it's interesting. Yeah, that's the screening of Mohavey. That's so

980
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 5: which we ended up being called Death Valley, right, okay,

981
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 5: oh right, o, god right, I hadn't heard the name

982
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 5: we shot it, but yeah.

983
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 6: Writer and Eric were in a movie together. So Eric

984
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 6: was my boyfriend at the time, and.

985
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 2: It was Eric Eric who Christian Okay.

986
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 4: Yeah he was different than Hans Christian Anderson. I found

987
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 4: out different person.

988
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you for the clarity.

989
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 4: Game problem just to throw that out there.

990
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's so wild. God, we're going out quite a bit.

991
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 5: I feel like, well you can't because Eric and I

992
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 5: were making the movie and you came out for a

993
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 5: little bit with your you guys had a dog.

994
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 6: And Tristan Tristan the Bulldog.

995
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: Trist In the Bulldog later remembers so much about your life.

996
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 5: Are you remember about you remember my audition for Boy

997
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 5: Meets World? No, I didn't remember you being on Boy

998
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 5: Meets World at all. Like I remember showing up on

999
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 5: crumbs and being like, because Boy Meets World is like

1000
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 5: I was so checked out by this season, like I

1001
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 5: didn't you know, Like but but you know, I remember

1002
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 5: things in my personal life like are you know friends

1003
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 5: and stuff? I remember details.

1004
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it was it was we all. It was

1005
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 6: a time. It was a time.

1006
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 2: It was a time. We can all agree on that

1007
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: a time.

1008
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: So looking back at Boy Meets World and this episode,

1009
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: seeing seventeen year old Maggie on screen, what would you

1010
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: like to say to her?

1011
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 6: Now? Oh my god, oh god, I would like to

1012
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 6: say to her? Uh wait, is this like a serious question,

1013
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 6: just like an acting question.

1014
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: It's a it's a however you want to take it

1015
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: however you want it to be, if, if if.

1016
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 6: There was something. And my heart breaks this a little

1017
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 6: bit because I like, I look and I think, like,

1018
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 6: oh man, like I want to like say, like just

1019
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 6: enjoy all of this, like the because I remember I

1020
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 6: really would be in my head a lot, and as

1021
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 6: you were just mentioning, like you get the note, you

1022
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 6: get the thing, and I remember like the worry and

1023
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 6: the and the like I was. I really was like

1024
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 6: socially awkward at the time. So I think what I

1025
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 6: would say is like, uh, let go and enjoy this,

1026
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 6: and uh, because everything's gonna everything's gonna be okay, everything's

1027
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 6: gonna everything's gonna work out. It's all gonna be okay.

1028
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 6: But I didn't know that at the time, so I

1029
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 6: don't know. That's probably more serious and heavy answer. But

1030
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 6: as I was watching it, all the memories even of

1031
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 6: that time in my life just came back, and I

1032
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 6: was like, oh man.

1033
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: You may not be surprised to know the majority of

1034
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: people I asked that question to say the exact same thing.

1035
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: Everybody says, the exact everybody said. Anybody's like, just enjoy it,

1036
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 2: just enjoy what you're doing.

1037
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: Ye stop stop stressing about it. It's all okay, you're

1038
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: gonna be fine.

1039
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 6: We're lucky. This is fun. This is fun, you know God.

1040
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: Yes, anyway, Well, thank you so much for joining us,

1041
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: for talking about this week of your life that you

1042
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: spent with us. We're so honored you were willing to

1043
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: come back and spend an hour with us today talking

1044
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: about this week of your life. We thought you were

1045
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: so wonderful in the episode. Your episode is the standout

1046
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: episode of the season. Where we are at this point.

1047
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 6: It's so special, like and the love connection thing, because

1048
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 6: don't you all go on to be together on the show. Yeah,

1049
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 6: so good, so good.

1050
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: You're so sweet for.

1051
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 6: Being such a jerk that I pushed me into the

1052
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 6: arms of the purse. Thay, thank you all so much

1053
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 6: for having me, and congratulations on the pod and like

1054
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 6: the success that you continue to still have from like

1055
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 6: the show. And it's just really lovely to see both

1056
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 6: your faces.

1057
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 5: Great to see you Magize.

1058
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1059
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 6: Bye bye Van.

1060
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: So fun to talk to her too. What a great, vibrant,

1061
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: bright personality she is.

1062
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's one of those things that you know

1063
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 5: when you hear about how kind of effortless the beginning

1064
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 5: of her career was as far as like this person

1065
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 5: saw her and recommended her. That this person recommended to that.

1066
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 5: And it's like when it's that like straight line of ascension,

1067
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 5: you know that there's something special, you know, some talent

1068
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 5: or some inner spark or something that just is undeniable,

1069
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 5: and it's like this person's going to have a career

1070
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 5: and we just kind of have to get out of

1071
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 5: her way, you know, and that there are people like that,

1072
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: they're just shooting stars and you're like, okay, and to

1073
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 5: be able, you know, the trick is to maintain it,

1074
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 5: you know, and to knock it burned out to not

1075
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 5: you know, and she hasn't. She's just loved it and

1076
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 5: enjoyed it and made it her career and taken it seriously.

1077
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: The very first trick was for her family to not

1078
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: overthink all the things there are, to overthink about all

1079
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: the reasons why we shouldn't pick up and move from

1080
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: Louisville to la and all the reasons why it could

1081
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: not work. Had had that not been a risk they took,

1082
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: which is a massive risk, it wouldn't have paid off.

1083
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 5: And she said brothers, like she has multiple others that

1084
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 5: moved in there. It sounds like they were younger. It's like,

1085
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 5: that's such a commitment. Think about the sacrifice that they

1086
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 5: made for you know. But I guess if you don't

1087
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 5: even have a car, the amount of money that your

1088
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 5: sixteen year old daughter might make is like she said, everybody, she.

1089
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: Said, it was not a ton of money, but at

1090
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: the time, it was more than they had ever seen.

1091
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 4: So that's that's in context.

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Speaker 5: That's really hard to Yeah, that can turn south so quickly,

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Speaker 5: like some people we've interviewed on this show whose parents

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Speaker 5: were like just gobbling up that money and being you know,

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Speaker 5: so child acting.

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Speaker 2: Is weird, man, Yeah, it is. It's weird, very weird.

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