Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to another edition of the KSR pre Show.
Speaker 1: Today is Tuesday, April eighth. I am Billy Rutlich with
Speaker 1: no Shannon the Dude. This week you can give a
Speaker 1: call on the Clark's Pumping Shot phone line. That's eight
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Speaker 1: brought to you by Italics Fine Italian Dining right here
Speaker 1: in Lexington on Main Street in the City Center. Big
Speaker 1: thank you dude Jacob Policheck who joined us on the
Speaker 1: KSR pre Show yesterday.
Speaker 2: He gave us the.
Speaker 1: Scoop about the Transfer Portal, the wild West, you could say,
Speaker 1: and the player movement in the sport of college basketball.
Speaker 1: We'll talk more transfer Portal today with our special guest
Speaker 1: Tom Crean, the former Marquette Indiana Georgia head coach, is
Speaker 1: a frequent guest on the KSR pre Show. A couple
Speaker 1: things got moved around. He will join us today at
Speaker 1: nine to thirty to recap the National Championship Game, Kentucky season,
Speaker 1: their first season under Mark Pope, and much more. I
Speaker 1: love Tom. He's a Western Kentucky guy. He was an
Speaker 1: assistant there from ninety to ninety four. He ended up
Speaker 1: marrying I think it was the Harbaugh's sister, so he's
Speaker 1: in the Harball family. Now we got to hear about
Speaker 1: those Thanksgiving dinners. But he's come on a couple times
Speaker 1: before and has been gracious enough with his time. Until
Speaker 1: nine thirty, We're just gonna do a little Billy our
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I'm glad you're alongside with us. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about some news notes happening around the country and around
Speaker 1: the Commonwealth. But first, let's say good morning to our producer,
Speaker 1: Rick Ryder. Our Man's back in studio. Good morning, Rick,
Speaker 1: how are you hey?
Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good.
Speaker 1: Billy always appreciate you the filling in Rick, I always do.
Speaker 1: But I do want to ask you do you live
Speaker 1: in Louisville?
Speaker 2: Rick?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you living in Louisville right now?
Speaker 4: Or yes? I am, yeah, Acord and raised here.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the flooding has continued throughout the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
Speaker 1: The images have been surreal in places like Frankfurt and
Speaker 1: Dawson's Dawson Springs. But you don't have to go far.
Speaker 1: I mean Louisville is underwater right now. Over the last
Speaker 1: couple of days, Rick, the sewage system is so backed
Speaker 1: up in Louisville they have asked people not to take
Speaker 1: long showers, not to take a bath, not to excessively flush.
Speaker 1: Are you doing your part, Rick, and not taking a
Speaker 1: shower for the city of Louisville these last couple of days.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing my best. And then anybody gets near me,
Speaker 4: they can tell that.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully, Rick, you're not getting too stinky. I thought,
Speaker 1: not too bad to know, No, But I thought that
Speaker 1: was bizarre, don't you. I mean, the sewage system so
Speaker 1: backed up that they've asked people not to take extended showers.
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense, but you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: think we'd get to that point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I never thought it would come to this.
Speaker 4: I've heard things like this in other cities in the
Speaker 4: past that got flooded out, but never thought it would
Speaker 4: happen here in Louisville.
Speaker 3: But it has.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just really disappointing to see that thunder
Speaker 1: over Louisville was canceled and all. That is such a
Speaker 1: big event for the city and unfortunately we're not going
Speaker 1: to have all of those festivities.
Speaker 2: In the fireworks show.
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, we've got the bluegrass Steaks running on
Speaker 1: a Tuesday here in Lexington at Keenland. So we have
Speaker 1: just had to adjust with all of the severe weather weather.
Speaker 1: Drew Franklin has had to adjust with everybody going on vacation.
Speaker 1: Matt leaves for Amsterdam, Mario decides to go back home
Speaker 1: to Florida, Ryan and Shannon decide to go on a
Speaker 1: bro date. So I wanted to say Drew did a
Speaker 1: great job yesterday at the start of Drew Palooza along
Speaker 1: with Corey Price and myself. Speaking of Ryan and Shannon,
Speaker 1: did we see the drunk tweets that Ryan and Shannon
Speaker 1: had last night from the bar? I mean, hey, we
Speaker 1: were all watching the National Championship game last night, but I.
Speaker 2: Don't know how many mimosa they were the.
Speaker 1: Twitter if you haven't checked it out at Ryan Lemon
Speaker 1: and at Shannon the Dude. They were just being a
Speaker 1: little goofy and having a good time on their bro date.
Speaker 1: And it was a good time last night as Florida
Speaker 1: defeated Houston sixty five to sixty three to earn their
Speaker 1: third title in really the last decade, right, I mean
Speaker 1: they won a six and seven and now again in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five five the year of the SEC, and
Speaker 1: what a stellar year for the SEC. They make fourteen
Speaker 1: teams into the tournament. Seven teams make the Elite eight,
Speaker 1: two in the final four in Todd Golden, in his
Speaker 1: third year at head coach at Florida, becomes the second
Speaker 1: youngest head coach to win the National Championship at thirty
Speaker 1: nine years old, the youngest being Valvano at thirty seven
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty three. It was also a rocky start
Speaker 1: to the year to Todd Golden if you remember the
Speaker 1: student newspaper at the University of Florida alleging that Todd
Speaker 1: Golden was stalking University of Florida students. He has been
Speaker 1: cleared by a Title nine investigation, but obviously that doesn't
Speaker 1: clear a view of all wrongdoing. But Todd Golden was
Speaker 1: still able to coach his team and coach his team
Speaker 1: to the National Championship where it.
Speaker 2: Looked like Florida was gonna lose.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, they were down twelve in
Speaker 1: the second half, down three at halftime. Houston to look
Speaker 1: to had looked to have all the momentum, Florida could
Speaker 1: not stopped turning the ball over. The intensity that Houston
Speaker 1: played with on defense was phenomenal. It was a great
Speaker 1: first half for Kelvin Sampson and those Houston Cougars. Then
Speaker 1: it started to fall apart well, and then Walter Clayton
Speaker 1: woke up. I mean, my man didn't have a field
Speaker 1: goal until about seven or eight minutes left in the
Speaker 1: second half.
Speaker 2: It also became a little bit of a ref.
Speaker 1: Show in the second half. Did you notice that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I believe the stat was there were four foulsand in
Speaker 1: the first half and then twenty five fouls in the
Speaker 1: second half. I don't know who made a call to
Speaker 1: the referees at halftime to say, hey, we can't let
Speaker 1: them play anymore, but it really felt like somebody did that.
Speaker 1: But eventually, Houston turns the ball over on the four
Speaker 1: final possessions of a game, allowing Florida to come back
Speaker 1: and win the take the lead. Houston had seventeen seconds
Speaker 1: left and elected to go for the win in the
Speaker 1: final shot. And look, I think to a degree you
Speaker 1: have to respect that light, right, I mean, they had
Speaker 1: played so well and they were still down a point
Speaker 1: to Florida. A Florida team that had a ton of
Speaker 1: turnovers couldn't hit a three in the first half to
Speaker 1: save their life. Houston had played really well and yet
Speaker 1: still found themselves down by one. They went for the win.
Speaker 1: But in hindsight it's puzzling.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: I mean, seventeen seconds left, you don't go to the basket,
Speaker 1: you don't try to get a two pointer. There's no action,
Speaker 1: You're just waiting for the final shot. Florida, to give
Speaker 1: them credit, plays great defense. Walter Clayton comes out of
Speaker 1: nowhere to force the well the Houston player to almost
Speaker 1: double dribble and not touch that ball again. It ends
Speaker 1: up being a turnover and Florida gets the win. It
Speaker 1: was a fun ending. It was a stunning ending, right
Speaker 1: My jaw is on the ground as much as it
Speaker 1: was when Houston came back to beat Duke, or Florida
Speaker 1: came back to beat Auburn or heck, Florida came.
Speaker 2: Back to beat Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: They were down ten against Texas Tech, nine versus Auburn,
Speaker 1: I believe, and then twelve versus Houston before they came
Speaker 1: back and won. And it's interesting to think It's interesting
Speaker 1: to reflect that the team that gave Florida their first
Speaker 1: loss in conference play this year was Kentucky. That's right,
Speaker 1: one zh six to one hundred at rupp Aerena earlier
Speaker 1: this year, Kobe Brea hit seven three pointers. Florida gets
Speaker 1: their first loss of the year. Shows you what Kentucky
Speaker 1: was when they were healthy. It shows you what Mark
Speaker 1: Pope and that roster could have achieved if those guys
Speaker 1: could have made it the rest of the way. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think kerkkries have played in that game, but
Speaker 1: you had a healthy Lamont Butler, you had a healthy
Speaker 1: Jackson Robinson. Kobe Brea hit seven threes in that one.
Speaker 1: Interesting to think back about Kentucky beating Florida earlier this year.
Speaker 1: But congratulations to Walter Clayton, Congratulations to Todd Golden and Florida.
Speaker 1: An incredible run for them to win the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 1: But I also can't help but think about the other
Speaker 1: side in Houston and the despair that you immediately see
Speaker 1: after the game. Kelvin Sampson another one that was stunned.
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sharp, who was the one that kind of had
Speaker 1: that double dribble, didn't take the shot in the final possession,
Speaker 1: was devastated after the game and goes to show you
Speaker 1: why the NCAA Tournament just means so much.
Speaker 2: These guys as.
Speaker 1: Careers are on the line, they're gonna stop playing the
Speaker 1: sport of basketball, possibly after games like this, and you
Speaker 1: get to see the despair in their eyes.
Speaker 2: It is so human.
Speaker 1: The end of the NCAA Tournament and whether it be
Speaker 1: Andrew Carr saying it's gonna be tough to take these
Speaker 1: jerseys and choose off for Emmanuel Sharp losing in the
Speaker 1: national title game, the emotions are at their best in
Speaker 1: the college basketball NCAA Tournament. Also, something that we didn't
Speaker 1: get to bring up, yesterday was the one year anniversary
Speaker 1: of John Caliperi entering the transfer portal himself entering negotiations
Speaker 1: with the Chicken Man before taking the job at Arkansas.
Speaker 1: So if yesterday was the year anniversary of the Sunday
Speaker 1: that that news all started breaking out, today would be
Speaker 1: the anniversary of the Monday where the bleep hit the
Speaker 1: fan when Cal started walking his dog on Richmond Road
Speaker 1: with the TV cameras right there, right where I had
Speaker 1: to replace Drew Franklin on KSR that week because he
Speaker 1: was at Augusta attending the Masters. I mean talk about
Speaker 1: being at the right place at the right time. I
Speaker 1: joined Matt and Ryan at KS Bar and Grill over
Speaker 1: the next couple days to talk about Cal moving to Arkansas,
Speaker 1: what Kentucky would do next. The sequence of events of
Speaker 1: that week will be remembered forever. Monday, on the Show
Speaker 1: and Cal with the Dog. Tuesday, Cal says goodbye in
Speaker 1: a video, saying that the program needs a new voice. Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Scott Drew's pictures taken in a Mexican restaurant in Waco.
Speaker 1: When the fan base is going crazy tracking planes. Thursday,
Speaker 1: Dan Hurley says no to the University of Kentucky. Imagine
Speaker 1: if that guy would have been the head coach of
Speaker 1: Kentucky this year. And Mark Pope is announced as the
Speaker 1: head coach. Late Thursday night, Friday morning, we do our
Speaker 1: show in the Distillery District and just the strangest three
Speaker 1: hour period where the entire sentiment of the fan base
Speaker 1: seemed to change. It's nice to reflect every now and then,
Speaker 1: but a year ago today we were in the madness
Speaker 1: of Cal entering the Transfer portal. Speaking of the Transfer portal,
Speaker 1: Kentucky got a huge commitment yesterday from Alabama forward Mohammed
Speaker 1: diu Bat. He'll have two years of eligibility. The six
Speaker 1: to seven forward from Queens, New York played the Kentucky
Speaker 1: Wildcats three times this year, and this is exactly the
Speaker 1: piece that Kentucky did not have this past season. I mean,
Speaker 1: think about it. You could look at his stats. He
Speaker 1: averaged seven point two points per game, five point nine rebounds,
Speaker 1: sixty one percent from the field, forty six percent from three,
Speaker 1: and sixty percent from three free throw line. Those numbers
Speaker 1: may not be corrected, and I don't know if he
Speaker 1: shot forty six percent from three, but this is a
Speaker 1: guy that is going to be your defensive enforce. This
Speaker 1: is the guy that is going to help so much
Speaker 1: on the offensive rebounding side of things, on the physicality,
Speaker 1: on the toughness, on the versatility side of it all
Speaker 1: that he's going to bring a dimension to the Kentucky
Speaker 1: roster that Kentucky simply did not have last year. He's
Speaker 1: going he was a thorn on UK side. In the
Speaker 1: three games that he played, he had eight points and
Speaker 1: eight rebounds, three assists in a steal in the game
Speaker 1: on January eighteenth, he had four points, five rebounds on
Speaker 1: a block in the game on February twenty second, and
Speaker 1: the third matchup versus Alabama on March fourteenth in the
Speaker 1: SEC tournament, he had I'm sorry the third matchup thirteen points,
Speaker 1: eight rebounds, two blocks, and a steal in the ninety
Speaker 1: nine to seventy win against Kentucky.
Speaker 2: I think this is a huge pickup.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Tom Crane about this guy a little
Speaker 1: bit later today. With two years of eligibility, you are
Speaker 1: now starting to see this roster fill out. If o
Speaker 1: Way stays, If Travis Perry, Colin Chandler, Brandon Garrison, Trent Noah,
Speaker 1: if they all stay, you now have eleven guys on
Speaker 1: the roster. You add in Jasper Johnson, Malachim, Radio, Acaid
Speaker 1: and Lewis, Jalen Lowe, Cam Williams and Dubote are now
Speaker 1: your three players in the transfer portal class. And what's
Speaker 1: next the USC transfer Wesley Yeats as somebody that's been buzzing,
Speaker 1: how about Jaden Quaintance buzz right now? We got some
Speaker 1: updates from our guy Jack Pilgrim, who I believe is
Speaker 1: going to be joining Drew on KSR. Later today that
Speaker 1: it's down between Auburn and Kentucky. For the former Kentucky
Speaker 1: commit Jaden Quaintans before he ended up leaving to Arizona State.
Speaker 1: He tore his ACL last year. He'll be coming off
Speaker 1: of that injury. There's the Sharpshooter Stretch four from Spain
Speaker 1: at Robert Morris. There's a guy at Jacksonville State.
Speaker 2: I believe there's still a lot of.
Speaker 1: Pieces to fall in this transfer portal, but Mark Pope
Speaker 1: has found his third edition in Muhammad Dubote. Heyf I've
Speaker 1: nine two a H two two eight seven If you'd
Speaker 1: like to join the show today again. Tom Creen will
Speaker 1: be joining us a little bit later in the show
Speaker 1: tonight moved up an hour early. It's Kentucky at the
Speaker 1: University of Louisville baseball game. Kentucky needs this one. They
Speaker 1: have struggled a little bit. They dropped two or three
Speaker 1: against Old Miss over the weekend eighteen and eleven on
Speaker 1: the year, five and seven in conference play.
Speaker 2: Look, it's not a conference game, but it's Louisville. Right.
Speaker 1: You're on the road at Jim Patterson's schedule or stadium
Speaker 1: against a ranked Louisville team. Kentucky leads the all time
Speaker 1: series seventy three point fifty to one. It's the one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty fifth meeting between the two schools. Kentucky. Look,
Speaker 1: I mean they left twelve guys on base and a
Speaker 1: loss to Old Miss. Over the weekend, they take on
Speaker 1: the number two team in the country, Texas this weekend Friday, Saturday,
Speaker 1: or Sunday. You do not have time to drop this
Speaker 1: game versus Louisville and Nick min Jones. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he has the talent that he did last year
Speaker 1: to make a College World Series run. I think they've
Speaker 1: got to start winning games now. I saw a projection
Speaker 1: that Kentucky was one of the last four teams in
Speaker 1: to the NCAA tournament. That was before the Old Miss series.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how things change. But A five nine
Speaker 1: two A two two eight seven again, that game moving
Speaker 1: up an hour early. We'll start at seven pm. That
Speaker 1: means the pregame will start at six forty five on
Speaker 1: news radio six thirty WLAP five oh two two six
Speaker 1: five six six five six is the text line. If
Speaker 1: you'd like to chime in, what'd you think about the
Speaker 1: Gators win? What sound do you like more one Shining
Speaker 1: Moment after this Yuk the season is over?
Speaker 2: Or how about the Masters opening music.
Speaker 1: You've heard that piano riff once or twice already this week, right,
Speaker 1: what's the better sound?
Speaker 2: One Shining Moment or the Masters.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about more of that next and get ready
Speaker 1: for Tom Green, who will join us at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the hour at nine to thirty. You are listening
Speaker 1: to a Tuesday edition of the ksrpre Show. I'm Billy
Speaker 1: Rutliche and we will be right back. All right, welcome back.
Speaker 1: It's the Billy R Sports Show today with Shannon the
Speaker 1: Dude out A five nine two A two two eight seven.
Speaker 1: Give us a call. While everybody else is on vacation,
Speaker 1: Drew Franklin is still back at the bar and he
Speaker 1: will be hosting drew Apalooza Day two today along with
Speaker 1: Jack Pilgrim and Steven Peak from KSR dot Com as
Speaker 1: well as Phoenix Stevens to talk about the women's basketball
Speaker 1: team in Kentucky. Women's basketball returner Tiana Key, who sounds
Speaker 1: like it is going to be on the show with Drew.
Speaker 1: So Drew's reached into the Roaldecks and found a great
Speaker 1: guest lineup for the show today. Really glad that Corey
Speaker 1: Price was on the show yesterday. That guy is just smart,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Just that intelligence to be
Speaker 1: able to recall every national championship winner from nineteen forty on. Man,
Speaker 1: it's just a different kind of intelligence and he has
Speaker 1: continued to kill it as a statistic statitician. Excuse me
Speaker 1: for the University of Kentucky. Speaking of women's basketball over
Speaker 1: the weekend, we did not mention Yukon beat South Carolina
Speaker 1: eighty two to fifty nine, dominated in the women's basketball
Speaker 1: title game. Do you know the coach for Yukon is
Speaker 1: now twelve and one in title games to twelve championship
Speaker 1: for Yukon, Page gets there, finally gets her title in
Speaker 1: a blowout game, one that don Staley was not too
Speaker 1: happy about. She was throwing some temper tantrums on the sideline,
Speaker 1: not happy. But it was a masterclass, that is what
Speaker 1: she said about Yukon after the game. Speaking of women's basketball,
Speaker 1: the uk team got a commit as well over the weekend,
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky transfer Josie Gilvin, who averaged thirteen points a
Speaker 1: game and six point three rebounds. She shot over forty
Speaker 1: percent from three at her time at Western Kentucky last year.
Speaker 1: It is a depth edition in the back four backcourt
Speaker 1: for coach Kenny Brooks and the Cats. But you can't
Speaker 1: help but think about a player like Cassidy Row anytime
Speaker 1: a player, even a player from the state of Kentucky
Speaker 1: has added like Western Kentucky transfer Josie Gilvin. You know,
Speaker 1: I've struggled a little bit on the topic of Cassidy
Speaker 1: Row kind of went back and forth. Initially, I gave
Speaker 1: my take on the air with Shannon the Dude, and
Speaker 1: the one Matt and ended up agreeing with is that
Speaker 1: you gotta let Kenny cook, you know, to a degree,
Speaker 1: you want him to make the program in his image.
Speaker 1: But you know what, yesterday I gave a call to
Speaker 1: KSR pre show frequent co host Richie Farmer, who knows
Speaker 1: better than Richie Farmer than the expectations of a fan
Speaker 1: base and a state like Kentucky. And basically, you know,
Speaker 1: I made sure Richie was free. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: call him while he's at work or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but I was just like, hey, Richie, I wanted to
Speaker 1: bout something off you.
Speaker 2: You know, I want to know what you think about
Speaker 2: this Cassidy row situation.
Speaker 1: I'd love you have you on the show sometime, but
Speaker 1: just you know, you know, man a man, honestly, what
Speaker 1: kind of what are your thoughts on the situation? And
Speaker 1: I fully expected Richie to be on the side of
Speaker 1: Cassidy and he was. You know, he completely understood that
Speaker 1: if he was in her situation, he would.
Speaker 2: Be devastated, and rightly so.
Speaker 1: But he also said that he saw both sides. And
Speaker 1: he also said that if he was in Kenny Brooks's situation, well,
Speaker 1: one he doesn't want to be in Kenny Brooks's situation,
Speaker 1: but two if he was, he didn't know what he
Speaker 1: would do. Because Cassidy does deserve a senior day, right, guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, she has put blood, sweat and tears into
Speaker 1: this program, and I get the addition of fourteen fifteen
Speaker 1: players of depth and making sure everybody can do their
Speaker 1: best on the roster. But she has just spent so
Speaker 1: much for this program that I thought that she could
Speaker 1: be honored in the right way. But then I flip, right,
Speaker 1: then I flip and I say, look, I mean, nobody
Speaker 1: deserves a roster spot. Nobody should be owed it just
Speaker 1: because you are from the state. With Cassidy's dad going
Speaker 1: on local radio shows, this situation has not gone away
Speaker 1: and many media members.
Speaker 2: Taking a stand.
Speaker 1: I mean, there have been some very fiery opinions on
Speaker 1: this topic, and I don't think either or wrong.
Speaker 2: You know, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, and.
Speaker 1: That's not what you do on sports radio, right, But
Speaker 1: there is nuance in life, and sometimes the truth is
Speaker 1: much closer to the middle than maybe that you expect.
Speaker 2: I love talking to Richie about it.
Speaker 1: I mean we talked maybe fifteen twenty minutes about just
Speaker 1: you know, is Richie gonna play? And how that all started?
Speaker 1: And even when Richie started playing, it's like, is Richie
Speaker 1: gonna play? More?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I mean when does that stop? And you know that's
Speaker 1: not you know, something that.
Speaker 2: Is a fault.
Speaker 1: It's just the passion of the fan base. It's what
Speaker 1: makes bb and special. It's what sets them aside from
Speaker 1: every other fan base in the country, is that you
Speaker 1: are gonna get the is Richie gonna play?
Speaker 2: Why is Cassidy Row being treated like that?
Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of our own and that's
Speaker 1: why this situation is so unique. You know, Originally I'm
Speaker 1: from Saint Petersburg, Florida, and so the Florida Gators were
Speaker 1: the biggest team around where I lived. And let me
Speaker 1: tell you, it's a little disupporting that Florida wins the
Speaker 1: college basketball National Championship because, let me let you in
Speaker 1: on a secret, they don't care about college basketball down there.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's changed since when I moved from Florida in
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, so I was there for six
Speaker 1: oh seven when they won back to back titles. But
Speaker 1: they care more about hockey than they do college basketball
Speaker 1: down there in Gainesville, Florida. It is amazing how much
Speaker 1: more they care about high school football than they do
Speaker 1: college basketball or really any other college sports outside of
Speaker 1: college football.
Speaker 2: They just don't care.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a football state, and I would say
Speaker 1: hockey is even closer behind that. But maybe that's changed,
Speaker 1: Maybe Todd Golden is starting to change that opinion of Florida.
Speaker 2: Fans in college basketball.
Speaker 1: I just feel for Kenny Brooks and Cassidy Row in
Speaker 1: this situation because I don't think there is a right answer.
Speaker 2: I think there is good points on both sides.
Speaker 1: A five nine two eight zero two to eight seven
Speaker 1: couple minutes left before we take our bottom of the
Speaker 1: hour break, and then former Indiana head coach Tom Crean
Speaker 1: is going to join us. He also coached at Marquette
Speaker 1: and Georgia. Looking to get some insights about the national
Speaker 1: title game last night, Kentucky's newest commit, and the transfer portal,
Speaker 1: and also if he missed his time at Western. I
Speaker 1: mean we talked about the white squirrel, the albino squirrels
Speaker 1: week recently. You know, I want to know if he
Speaker 1: misses walking up that hill every single day. It is
Speaker 1: not for the faint of heart. We Western grads have
Speaker 1: the best calf muscles, there are no doubt. But looking
Speaker 1: forward to talking to Tom a little later today. You
Speaker 1: can also Texas five h two two sixty five six
Speaker 1: six five six, where one person says Billy Florida's starting
Speaker 1: guards were both zero star recruits. Maybe we shouldn't judge
Speaker 1: Pope's recruits by which school they're coming from. You know,
Speaker 1: I think I saw the stat that there were no
Speaker 1: five star recruits in the starting five of the National
Speaker 1: Championship last night as well, and that's, you know, a
Speaker 1: sign of the times, right. We've seen the transfer portal
Speaker 1: change so much, but also let's speak to Pope's roster
Speaker 1: building techniques right now. I don't think it's about just
Speaker 1: amassing talent like Cal did in the past, but who
Speaker 1: is the right fit, who is going to play a
Speaker 1: role in my system? And I think you're seeing exactly
Speaker 1: that with Diubate. I mean, that's a guy that is
Speaker 1: going to play a specific role in pope system as
Speaker 1: an enforcer, as the guy that's going to guard the
Speaker 1: best player on the other team. You know, just filling
Speaker 1: out your roster is much different in twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: than it was in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty even twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. But how Pope navigates these waters is going
Speaker 1: to be the most interesting story of the offseason. There's
Speaker 1: no doubt.
Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take a break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we will hopefully connect with Tom Creen,
Speaker 1: the college basketball coach and ESPN analyst, to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit more about the Cats. It's Billy Rutlige a
Speaker 1: day without Shitton the dude here on this Tuesday edition,
Speaker 1: and the ksrpre Show will be right back. Welcome back,
Speaker 1: we roll along on a Tuesday of the KSR Pre Show.
Speaker 1: I'm Billy Rutledge and now joining us on the Celebrity
Speaker 1: Hotline is KSR pre show frequent co host. It's Tom Crean,
Speaker 1: the former college basketball head coach and college basketball analyst
Speaker 1: on ESPN. It's great to have you back on, Tom.
Speaker 2: How have you been.
Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I'm doing great. It's good to be
Speaker 3: with you, so thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's great to connect with you again. How how
Speaker 1: has the tournament been?
Speaker 2: Tom?
Speaker 1: I know you've been really busy doing a lot of studiosh,
Speaker 1: you've also broadcasting some games. So how how is the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five tournament for Tom Crean?
Speaker 3: I loved it. I worked with what I was with
Speaker 3: ESPN through most of the champions well through all of
Speaker 3: the Championship week, and then it's been Westwood One Radio.
Speaker 3: So I did Westwood one Radio up in Milwaukee where
Speaker 3: Kentucky was and had a chance to be a part
Speaker 3: of that. You see guys like Matt Jones up there
Speaker 3: and other people with you guys. And then I did
Speaker 3: Atlanta for the Sweet sixteen and an Elite and got
Speaker 3: to call those games. So I loved it. I didn't
Speaker 3: go to the Final four. I really don't go out
Speaker 3: there as much right now unless I have something that
Speaker 3: I'm definitely going out there to do. But I love
Speaker 3: the tournament and I love the season and just watching
Speaker 3: teams improve, you know, being able to see why are
Speaker 3: they winning, why are they losing? What are they got
Speaker 3: to get better at? You know, I love all that,
Speaker 3: so I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: You know, Matt mentioned that he met you up there,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to that and Mark Pope's first season
Speaker 1: at Kentucky and Justice. But I do want to touch
Speaker 1: on Florida winning the title last night. I mean, Todd
Speaker 1: Golden in his third season, has built a heck of
Speaker 1: a roster, and Tom they did it by coming back
Speaker 1: once again three straight games, or they've come back with
Speaker 1: a nine point deficit. I mean, quite the win for
Speaker 1: Florida and quite the tournament for SEC.
Speaker 2: Was it not?
Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely? I mean quite the year for the SEC.
Speaker 3: I mean that's just it's just awesome and and to me,
Speaker 3: it showed teams got better. It really did. And you
Speaker 3: couldn't judge the teams nationally just on league play because
Speaker 3: there are so many even games, so many games of
Speaker 3: really good teams that once they got into the nation
Speaker 3: again after the non conference season, that they would show
Speaker 3: that and that, and that's exactly what they did. A
Speaker 3: lot of great leagues year in and year out, and
Speaker 3: the SEC just went to a different level this year.
Speaker 3: And when you think about it, even on the women's side,
Speaker 3: I mean, four of the eight teams in the in
Speaker 3: the final four, I'm both tides and they come from
Speaker 3: the SEC, and you get one champion out of it.
Speaker 3: You can't have it a lot better than that. Two
Speaker 3: champions I guess they would really want. But when you
Speaker 3: got four of the eight and the champion, that's an incredible,
Speaker 3: incredible year.
Speaker 1: Well, Tom, I think they're set up for many years
Speaker 1: to come to be a very good conference in college basketball.
Speaker 1: But I can't help but think about the other side
Speaker 1: in a national championship game, the losing side, and Calvin Sampson,
Speaker 1: what a great story he was with Houston, Emmanuel Sharp
Speaker 1: devastated after the game. It's the agony of defeat. And
Speaker 1: there's a cliche that says most coaches hate losing more
Speaker 1: than they like winning. I want to ask you, does
Speaker 1: that apply to you? And do you think about some
Speaker 1: tough losses when you see things like that?
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely absolutely you do, And you don't ever get
Speaker 3: over those I mean, anybody that thinks that that Calvin
Speaker 3: will be able to move on from that loss, No,
Speaker 3: you don't. I mean, yeah, you move on in your
Speaker 3: life and you get ready for the next day and
Speaker 3: the next game and the next season and all those
Speaker 3: type of things. But those things never leave you, and
Speaker 3: and not when you're invested like that, because it's it's
Speaker 3: it's not just the result, it's the relationships that you
Speaker 3: have that that lead to a result. And when especially
Speaker 3: when you've had the year and the season that they
Speaker 3: have had and built it the way that they did
Speaker 3: at Houston, and you just see how much they've invested
Speaker 3: into each other and then to come up short in
Speaker 3: a game that it wasn't that they lost, it was
Speaker 3: that they lost doing things that they don't They don't
Speaker 3: do right. They were out of character on some of
Speaker 3: the turnovers, they were out of character on not getting
Speaker 3: the shots up, things of that nature. Those were the
Speaker 3: hard parts in a game like that, and that's where
Speaker 3: you feel for but you don't get over those things.
Speaker 3: Still think about losing to Kansas in the Final four
Speaker 3: and two thousand and three all the time. I mean,
Speaker 3: as great as the Kentucky game was in the Elite eight.
Speaker 3: We still didn't beat Kansas until you never forget those
Speaker 3: things and.
Speaker 1: It could end so poor. But there's got to be
Speaker 1: it's got to be such a rewarding process to invest
Speaker 1: in young people like that time. I mean, as a
Speaker 1: coach for so many years, I mean, you get to
Speaker 1: know so many great guys and that to see them
Speaker 1: better themselves as human beings is probably the most rewarding
Speaker 1: part of it.
Speaker 2: Not even just wins and losses, right.
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, absolutely, the relationships you have. I mean, example
Speaker 3: of that two thousand and three team, that two thousand
Speaker 3: and three team at Marquette is still so close in
Speaker 3: still group texts and chats and they still spend time
Speaker 3: together during the season and events. It's just that doesn't
Speaker 3: go away, right, all those things. Every team bonds in
Speaker 3: a different way and and they're going to be there,
Speaker 3: going to be memories that people have forever. But when
Speaker 3: you win and go through hard things together and you
Speaker 3: overcome and you achieve, think about think about think about
Speaker 3: how quick that they would pack rupp Arena at the
Speaker 3: Untouchables came back you know for a night, right, I Mean,
Speaker 3: it's just there's just incredible memories on those type of things,
Speaker 3: and so yeah, you feel really honored and absolutely blessed
Speaker 3: to be involved in that as a coach and you
Speaker 3: and you do understand that you have a real hand
Speaker 3: in that and bringing people together. But at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, it's how they make you feel about
Speaker 3: you and how they make you feel about about how
Speaker 3: they feel about you as a coach or as a person.
Speaker 3: That's what the that's what the difference is, and that's
Speaker 3: what's so incredible. And that's why when you lose with people,
Speaker 3: and there's the old saying, you know, you've got to
Speaker 3: find people you can lose with, right And and that's
Speaker 3: I always tell people in coaching, hire somebody that that
Speaker 3: you can be on a three game losing streak with
Speaker 3: them and not wonder where they're at when when you
Speaker 3: get ready for the next game, you know. And I
Speaker 3: think that's that's coaching, that's leadership, that's life. That's so
Speaker 3: much and I think that's that's there's no price tag
Speaker 3: you can put on that. Coaches make a lot of money, right,
Speaker 3: especially at the collegiate level, but there's no price tag
Speaker 3: you can put on those relationships and those memories that
Speaker 3: you have.
Speaker 1: Would you ever be interested in getting back into coaching town.
Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely, yeah, the right things, if the right thing came,
Speaker 3: absolutely I would because you never stop being a coach.
Speaker 3: And even now, you know with broadcasting, I love it.
Speaker 3: I love the game planning, I look at I love
Speaker 3: the way. Okay, how do they win? How do they lose?
Speaker 3: What do they got to do? Like I said earlier,
Speaker 3: like I love all that, but you missed the floor,
Speaker 3: you missed the practices, you missed the competition of the game.
Speaker 3: And really what I missed immensely And you still get
Speaker 3: this with your former players, whether they're in the NBA
Speaker 3: or going through things in life, is you miss helping
Speaker 3: people solve problems. And that's what coaching is so much about, right,
Speaker 3: how do you help others get better? How do you
Speaker 3: help them fix things? How do you help them solve problems?
Speaker 3: Because when they go into the real world, their life,
Speaker 3: their families, they've got to be able to solve those things.
Speaker 3: And every way that you can give them, it's not enabling,
Speaker 3: it's helping them have the wherewithal and the skills and
Speaker 3: tools that they need to go along with what they've
Speaker 3: learned from their families. On how they're going to run
Speaker 3: their own families and their own businesses in their own lives.
Speaker 1: Let's shift to Kentucky here. Mark Pope's first season at
Speaker 1: Kentucky ends with eight Top fifteen wins. They are twenty
Speaker 1: four and twelve on the year, they made the Sweet
Speaker 1: sixteen after beating Troy in Illinois. You know, Preparina was
Speaker 1: packed several times this year, as you alluded to, but
Speaker 1: you had the shit chance to sit down with Matt
Speaker 1: Jones a little bit also, Mark Pope, what are your
Speaker 1: overall thoughts on Mark Pope's first season at Kentucky.
Speaker 3: I think they did a great job. I mean I
Speaker 3: really did. I already put together a really good staff.
Speaker 3: I think one of the big keys was bringing Mark
Speaker 3: Fox with him, because there's a guy now that could
Speaker 3: that understood Mark and could help a new staff. Obviously
Speaker 3: he brought guys from BYU, but when you get Jason
Speaker 3: and you get Alvin Brooks and people like that, like
Speaker 3: they don't know Mark right, and so that's where Mark
Speaker 3: Fox could be such a key part of that. And
Speaker 3: Mark Fox is an outstanding coach, so he comes in
Speaker 3: and he's got that the ability to help Mark but
Speaker 3: also to help the rest of the staff, And I
Speaker 3: thought that that staff was fantastic, and I thought what
Speaker 3: they did improving their team, putting the team together, really
Speaker 3: having an idea of what they wanted. Obviously, they have
Speaker 3: the wherewithal and the money and all those things to
Speaker 3: be able to get the players that they want, and
Speaker 3: they have a lot to sell. But there's a lot
Speaker 3: of teams right now in the country that have a
Speaker 3: lot of money that aren't getting the right kind of
Speaker 3: players and aren't getting the players that fit their head coach.
Speaker 3: But Mark's teams, they didn't do that. They did get
Speaker 3: the guys that fit. He built a great culture inside
Speaker 3: of there this year and again, when you come into Kentucky,
Speaker 3: I mean you're not only building on winning and building
Speaker 3: on tradition, you're building on the expectations that are always
Speaker 3: in that program. And I thought John did so much
Speaker 3: with that for so long there, right, and then Mark
Speaker 3: comes in like it's Kentucky for a reason, and I
Speaker 3: think he did a great job of embracing all that,
Speaker 3: embracing the fans, embracing everybody there, but really at the
Speaker 3: same time getting his team better. And I think they'll
Speaker 3: continue to improve like that because there always going to
Speaker 3: be a destination program. If you're having success at Kentucky,
Speaker 3: you're really not looking to leave other than to go
Speaker 3: to the pros. I mean, there's always going to be transfers,
Speaker 3: but there are certain programs that you go in there
Speaker 3: and you really don't no matter how well you're playing,
Speaker 3: this is where you want to be. And I think
Speaker 3: Kentucky's one of those schools. Still.
Speaker 1: I think you hit the nail on the head when
Speaker 1: you said the word fit and Pope recruited to fit
Speaker 1: his scheme and his style, and not that Cal didn't
Speaker 1: do that. It felt like he amassed talent a lot
Speaker 1: of times. But Cal had an old saying that Kentucky
Speaker 1: he isn't for everyone. And I think that you know
Speaker 1: that was that applied even more so in the transfer
Speaker 1: portal era, where guys are asking for money or they're
Speaker 1: asking for playing time, and it seemed Mark Pope reinstilled
Speaker 1: the the values of the name on the front of
Speaker 1: your jersey and not the name on the back. Tom,
Speaker 1: if you were coaching today, what's some advice that you
Speaker 1: would give to kids entering the transfer portal?
Speaker 3: Well? I think also with John, the people lose sight
Speaker 3: of this there was a transition. I mean I went
Speaker 3: through the transition of COVID and and then and then
Speaker 3: a year later, you're dealing with the portal and you're
Speaker 3: dealing with the NIL when everybody has that, And I think,
Speaker 3: you know how John built, it was not going to
Speaker 3: be as sustainable once once the model changed and was
Speaker 3: moving in that direction. And I thought he did a
Speaker 3: lot of good with that this year at Arkansas, having
Speaker 3: young players and having some guys that he knew, but
Speaker 3: also getting some older guys, And I think that's where
Speaker 3: it's at. I think if I was giving advice to
Speaker 3: younger players, first off, you eat people are there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people that are paying for numbers that you've
Speaker 3: already had. There's still people that are paying for what
Speaker 3: you've done right, and I'm not sure that that is
Speaker 3: always going to be the best model. Younger players have
Speaker 3: got to understand that the more that they improve, the
Speaker 3: more skills that they have, the more that they can
Speaker 3: shoot the ball, the more that they can be low
Speaker 3: turnover people that are good decision makers, if they're inside players.
Speaker 3: The more that they can shoot it, that they can
Speaker 3: pass it, that they can protect the rim, that they
Speaker 3: can find ways to get fout. Skill development right now
Speaker 3: should be in an absolute premium no matter what, because
Speaker 3: as this continues to go, people will be paying for
Speaker 3: projection and skill. They really will. They are to a
Speaker 3: degree obviously, when it's a high school player, like I
Speaker 3: think the Kentucky class this year is outstanding, and I
Speaker 3: know a Kata Lewis and I know Malachi Marino from
Speaker 3: knowing them for some time or from working with them
Speaker 3: at different camps like those two guys. And I don't
Speaker 3: know Johnson well, I think he's a heck of a player,
Speaker 3: but the two I know those guys are going to
Speaker 3: be fantastic at Kentucky right because because there's potential, there's upside.
Speaker 3: They've proven at their level that they can do it.
Speaker 3: But you can see that they're going to get better,
Speaker 3: and I think that's that's what this is all about.
Speaker 3: Don't get so caught up in what you think everybody
Speaker 3: is getting or what everybody how you're going to get paid.
Speaker 3: You better understand that if your skills aren't continuing to
Speaker 3: grow and get better, that's going to put it's going
Speaker 3: to put a shelf life and a ceiling on how
Speaker 3: far you can go. Because as this continues to go,
Speaker 3: paying for players that can absolutely come in and have
Speaker 3: the skill and impact winning is going to be is
Speaker 3: going to be paramount.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned Johnson and Moreno, both Kentucky kids. So
Speaker 1: they're one going to understand what it means, the importance
Speaker 1: the fan base puts on it, and the expectations that
Speaker 1: come with it. I do want to ask you about
Speaker 1: one specific player that Kentucky has gotten, and that was
Speaker 1: yesterday Mo Diabate, the six to seven power forward from
Speaker 1: Alabama committed to the Cats. He's a complimentary piece that
Speaker 1: can bring a lot of toughness, don't you think.
Speaker 3: Tom Oh Absolutely, I love what they're doing in the
Speaker 3: portal so far. But Jalen Lowe it with Cam Williams,
Speaker 3: and then to get Diabat. Here's the thing about him.
Speaker 3: When when Alabama struggled, especially in second halves, it was
Speaker 3: defensively and and there were certain players fears numbers might
Speaker 3: be down defensively, Aiden Holloway, Grant Nelson. The one guy
Speaker 3: that was a constant for them throughout the year defensively
Speaker 3: and and impacted their team on the rebounding end in
Speaker 3: the defensive end was Mo Diabate. I mean, he was
Speaker 3: a guy that the more he played okay and even
Speaker 3: in second per halves, the better they played. And there
Speaker 3: are still certain things that have to be improved offensively
Speaker 3: with him, there's no doubt about it. But he's a
Speaker 3: guy that makes things happen. Like he Mo Diabate would
Speaker 3: have fit in perfectly in a game last night on
Speaker 3: either one of those front lines because he can rebound
Speaker 3: the ball, he can defend the rim, he can get
Speaker 3: to the rim. He's gonna be He's going to be
Speaker 3: in motion to keep coming. I mean Condon and how
Speaker 3: for Florida they never stop going to the basket on
Speaker 3: either a drive or a follow up or a rebound.
Speaker 3: Right see about days like that? I mean, I love him.
Speaker 3: That's a huge loss for Alabama because it's hard to
Speaker 3: replace a motor in an impact I'm both like he
Speaker 3: is so right now Kentucky, those three portal signs. Cam
Speaker 3: Williams can cut, he can shoot. I think he's going
Speaker 3: to have to get his release just a little bit
Speaker 3: higher as he continues to grow and want to become
Speaker 3: a pro. But I thought this would be the year
Speaker 3: Jaalen Lowe would be a pro from Pitt and I
Speaker 3: think now you give him and you put him in
Speaker 3: the pick and rolls, and you put him in the offense.
Speaker 3: Now that'll be one more year more like Mark wants it.
Speaker 3: At Kentucky, I think they have done phenomenal. You could
Speaker 3: say they're high school recruiting class and their portal class.
Speaker 3: You could easily make a case when you combine those
Speaker 3: right now for being as good as anybody's in the
Speaker 3: country to this point.
Speaker 1: Wow, listen, listen to that Tom creen. You're getting used
Speaker 1: to that college basketball analyst role with the takes.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it well, no, but but I mean it's sincerely.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not about it's not about how everybody's ranked. Right,
Speaker 3: And obviously there's great recruiting classes and we're nowhere near
Speaker 3: where the portal is going to be. But when you
Speaker 3: talk about impacting a team, right, the fit a team.
Speaker 3: Let's put it that way. I'm not trying to not
Speaker 3: trying to make a statement that's that's outlandish. When you
Speaker 3: talk about guys that come in make a team, it fit,
Speaker 3: and it can impact winning. The guys they've gotten in
Speaker 3: the portal so far and the recruits they've signed. If
Speaker 3: they keep developing the way they have. I think they're
Speaker 3: excellent fits and I think you could argue for them
Speaker 3: as good as anyone in the country.
Speaker 1: Tom Creen has been our guest here on the KSR
Speaker 1: pre Show today, the former head coach at Marquette, Indiana, Georgia.
Speaker 1: Tom one final question before I let you go. You're
Speaker 1: a Hilltopper man. You're a guy from ninety to ninety
Speaker 1: four you were on the Hill. I know you got
Speaker 1: some fond memories there. You've met your wife there.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that comes to mind when I
Speaker 1: bring up the Hilltoppers?
Speaker 3: Everything? I loved it there, my father in law, Jack Harbaugh,
Speaker 3: and Jackie Harbaugh being there working for Ralph Willard. We
Speaker 3: went from having eight points and seven rebounds returning the
Speaker 3: first year we were there, the year three, being in
Speaker 3: the sweet sixteen, year four winning a championship, going to
Speaker 3: the NSAA tournament, and then we left for Pittsburgh. But
Speaker 3: some of the greatest years not only in my life
Speaker 3: because I've met my wife, but because of learning a
Speaker 3: whole different style, being in an environment where improvement, daily
Speaker 3: improvement of your skills was it the foremost of the program.
Speaker 3: Working for an absolute incredible coach and Willard. I loved
Speaker 3: every bit of it, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Well, Tom, really appreciate you jumping on with us again.
Speaker 1: It seems like we always do this around NCAA tournament time.
Speaker 1: And now that the tournament is over you can get
Speaker 1: some rest. I guess it's a little vacation time for Tom.
Speaker 1: So big thank you for joining us, and can't wait
Speaker 1: to talk to.
Speaker 2: You again, sir.
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Billy.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: Tom creen one of the more frequent co hosts on
Speaker 1: the KSR pre.
Speaker 2: Show over the years.
Speaker 1: Who would have thought, and now Matt and Tom are
Speaker 1: buddies again. It's interesting how things work out. It's it
Speaker 1: is awesome. So we'll take a break A five nine
Speaker 1: two eight two two eight seven. We'll have one segment
Speaker 1: ago here on the ksrppre Show.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back.
Speaker 1: It's our final segment of the KSR pre Show, a
Speaker 1: Tuesday edition.
Speaker 2: Big thank you to.
Speaker 1: Tom Crean who joined us today. It sounded like he
Speaker 1: was dog sitting at Ryan Lemon's house during the interview.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard that, Rick the dog's
Speaker 1: barking in the background, but I haven't worried there. But
Speaker 1: they were just agreeing with him. It sounded like in
Speaker 1: the advice he was spitting out some high praise about
Speaker 1: Kentucky's recruiting class in Transfer Portal. Always good to hear.
Speaker 1: I want to leave you on one note, and it
Speaker 1: comes from our guys from Roup to No Good. They
Speaker 1: put on a great podcast. Big Blue Bud is one
Speaker 1: of their members. I believe he was one of the
Speaker 1: main guys that helped get the billboard up for Big Z.
Speaker 1: He pointed out that Mark Pope now has four left
Speaker 1: handed players on his upcoming Kentucky team, Akaden Lewis, Jalen Lowe,
Speaker 1: Jasper Johnson, and now Mo Diabatee. Counting Amari Williams, that's
Speaker 1: five total leftie players in two years. According to Buddy,
Speaker 1: cal had twelve lefties in fifteen seasons at UK, So
Speaker 1: what's with the lefties? Is that part of the recruiting
Speaker 1: as well? I'm not sure who knows what Popes get
Speaker 1: saying to these guys, but I do love the idea
Speaker 1: of more lefties on the team.
Speaker 2: That's going to do it for us.
Speaker 1: Drew Franklin, Drew Palouza next, I'm Billy Rutlis.
Speaker 2: This has been the ksrprecio