WEBVTT - Whit's Revenge 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:18.840 This is Chase Utley and this is the Philly Show. Hi, everybody, 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.599 Welcome to the Philly Show. Rubenmar Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:28.319 z O Lucky. Wednesday, August twenty first, twenty twenty four. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:30.960 How are you guys doing today? You guys doing good? 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.040 I'm great, you know. 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:35.040 I want to ask you guys a question. 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:39.160 Hot Atlanta, it's actually hot. It's not too hot, usually 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:39.680 not bad. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.199 Actually it's the coolest I can remember being in a 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.000 long time in Atlanta in August. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.200 Fallish and it's fallish in Chester County. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:51.279 That's beautiful. It's it's that time earlier. So last night, 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:54.040 last night, I get back to my hotel, and you 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.720 guys can appreciate this. I wanted to have a post 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.880 game beer, and uh so I go down to the 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:01.520 I didn't want to sit at the bar though, so 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:03.319 I was like, I'm going to bring a beer back 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.520 up to my room. So I get a beer bottle 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.280 down there. I assume it's a twist off, go all 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.000 the way back to my room, cannot get the top 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.160 off the beer bottle. So I'm like, too lazy to 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:16.800 go back downstairs. I want to see if I can 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:18.480 do one of those cool things where you put on 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.280 the counter and you open it. 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:20.920 Of course. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.440 I messed that up, so now some of the bottle 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:30.440 breaks on the top. So are you an amateur? I'm 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.440 an amateur. I'm an amateur. So here's what I did. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.440 I was like, I can't waste this beer, but I 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.400 also don't want to choke on any glass. So I 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:44.240 poured some beer very gently into another glass and gingerly 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.480 would you have done the same thing? Because part of 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:50.120 me was going, if I get any in my throat, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.080 am I gonna explain this? Am I that desperate? But 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.360 I did it. And then but after a couple of SIPs, 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.200 I was like, what am I doing to myself here? 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:58.360 I can't go to the hospital. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:00.160 You gottah. 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.880 You gotta get a like a pipe bomb instead, where 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:05.480 you can you know, a tall boy where you. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.760 Can pop the But I I've been where you are. 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.240 You get upstairs with a nice beer after working all 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.520 day and you can't open it. So what you're gonna 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:14.800 do is on the back of the door of the 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.399 hotel room door they have that little plastic sleeve where 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.040 they put like the fire instructions. Yeah, and you can 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.639 pry it off on that if you if you. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.880 Love that, you know that the door locked, Jan just 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:28.800 popping in there. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:29.800 Yeah you can. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:34.640 Yeah, it's the matter with you guys, you know, with 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.800 your wedding ring with Ryan, get pissed off at your 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.040 or what I could do the wedding as well. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.200 Wedding ring pop you could do like like back when 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.080 I was a kid, there was a player named super 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:49.400 Joe Charbono. Remember Joe, Yeah, I think it was the 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:54.000 year and he actually was a legendary story that he 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.120 could open a beer bottle with his eye sockets. 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.200 There's a couple of guys you can do that. At 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:00.799 that point, you. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.960 Had to deal with your teeth and stuff, you know, Pop, 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.400 it's that. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.000 But I was like, but I seriously, I'm in my 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.040 room and I'm going, what am I doing here? Do 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.119 I Do I need a sip of beer? That bad? 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:14.240 I was like part of me was like, yes, the price, 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.800 Like let's let's let's pitch the rest. I don't need it. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:17.919 I've avoided the worst. 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:19.079 You know, you're. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.320 Taking matters into your own hands when you're pouring into 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.360 a glass in one of those places you never know 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.040 in the last time that was actually cleaned that is 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:26.800 also true. 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.600 Has got one of those skits he talks about. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.720 Man, I don't know what he's you clean it a 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.720 glass with somebody's underwear or something. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.680 A lot of a lot of pitch balls last night. 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.880 Uh at my hotel, for sure. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:46.600 You up by the ballpark? Are you downtown? 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:53.720 I'm in Buckhead. I'm in Buckhead. You're not right across 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:57.000 the street from your nice Yes, sir, my place. You 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.320 know it's it's nice, it's nice. Uh so, yeah, but 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.960 last night there's some pitfalls during the game. Rinaldo Lopez, 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.360 just first game back from the il, strikes out ten guys, 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.160 you know, the top three guys in the lineup, go 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:14.600 oh for twelve with seven strikeouts, final seventeen. Phillies are 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:19.039 retired in order wit Maorfield. You knew he was going 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:20.640 to do something last night out. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:21.560 You knew that. 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:26.159 No, you knew it was he that good Reuben Lopez. 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:27.760 Last night his. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.600 Stuff was really really outstanding. I mean, we didn't take 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.800 a great, not a great approach against him, had opportunities to. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.840 We had him on the ropes. Phillies had him on 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.479 the ropes a couple of times. There was a couple 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.440 of three zero counts. Brandon Brad Marsh got into a 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.440 couple of did I say Brad Brandon Marsh got into 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.640 a couple of you know, Marshie the guy, the hockey guy. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.000 I talked to him all the time, so I screw 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.600 up the name all the time. But anyway, Brandon had 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.200 an opportunity, a couple opportunities with some three oh counts 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.479 to do some damage and like was taking all the 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:03.720 way up. I'm not sure if we had like the 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:08.000 best approach against him, but that slider he's got as 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.240 one of the best sliders I've seen. I mean, it's 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.760 like a it's if it's not twelve six, it's like 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.440 eleven to five. It's a downer. It's hard, it's firm. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.640 He he's got a super quick arm, works super fast. 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.480 He does all the things that you want to do 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.320 as a starting pitcher. And it was a great find 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:29.000 by the Braves man signing him. Basically was signed. They 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.680 signed him as a as a bullpen guy, and then 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.560 he gave an opportunity to be a starter. He had 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:38.480 started years ago, maybe four or five years ago, and 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.960 then became a full time bullpen guy and did very 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.760 very well for Chicago White Sox, and then when they 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.800 signed him and they gave Hi an opportunity, he ran 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.400 with it. And he's been outstanding now that the workload 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:50.960 is an issue, and I think that's one of the 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.920 reasons why he had the stress elbow just. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:56.159 Coming back from that il. 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.680 But he had only thrown maxed out at seventy one 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.440 pitches in z i el stint. But his stuff was 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:06.200 nasty and he took care of those first three guys 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.680 in the lineup. Turner made some contact at leads, but 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:13.320 the other guys, I mean, Harper and Schoberg got eaten 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.160 up pretty pretty pretty badly by that slider. 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:18.839 And when the Phillies had met on base, he made 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.320 big pitches, sometimes at the bottom. 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:21.440 Of the order. 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.160 But the other thing, the other thing I wanted to 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.720 say about that was that you know, his numbers coming 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:33.560 into the game point zero nine to six batting average 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.600 against with runners in scoring. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:37.600 Position this season. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:43.320 That is a ridiculous number that I mean, it got 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:47.320 better because he I mean, you talk about making pitches 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.920 when you have to, man, he was really good. And 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.080 then the fact that they just couldn't Mustard and they 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.080 couldn't get a base runner for three and a half 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:56.160 or four and a half innings. 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:02.520 Wheeler pitched really good. He left that one fastball right 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.600 down the belt, yep, and it was Zona crushed it. 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.000 Zona's having a great year. He's not far off of 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:13.120 Taani in that MVP discussion. You know, I think his 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.160 home run trot is silly, but the guy can mash. 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:19.720 Yeah. 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.040 I'm just kind of struck with this team. They have 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.280 trouble with good teams. They don't play consistently well against 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.520 the top teams. Against good teams, I don't even consider 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.360 Atlanta the top team with all their injuries. But they're 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.600 a good team, and they struggled against good pitching. Last night, 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.600 Atlanta had an elite level pitching. So yeah, I agree, 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.400 that could be a fear or concern, uh come October. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.080 It could be they have that they've struggled against a 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:49.200 tough pitching. You know, in October they've actually had done 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:54.320 well against pretty good pitching when when it bell rings, 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.280 but at times. I mean, they got beat up at 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:02.520 the end with the Arizona uh uh in the NLCS. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:08.640 But I you know, there's some adjustments need to be made. 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.080 I am a little concerned. I think it seems like 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.560 these guys are a little beat up. I found out 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.000 a little bit of information about, you know, the pinchhole 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.640 pinch inting thing on Sunday, why a couple of guys 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:24.440 didn't get in there. I just think that there's more 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.760 to it than just you know, these guys, you know, 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.880 didn't that Toper just wanted to rest them. I think 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.319 that they're bang They were banged up enough, I think 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.040 to maybe make sure that. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.240 They they got their rest that day. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.959 So I'm not sure exactly what it is, but I 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.280 just got the feeling just being in the clubhouse that 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.559 there was a little bit more to it. There was 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:51.280 a really late lineup delivery yesterday. We didn't get the 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.360 line up until well after Topp or even talked right 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.080 Todd right after we talked, you know, it just sounds 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.400 like some guys are a little bit uh beat up 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.559 right now, bumps and bruises, And I think that that 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.160 was part of the story about Sunday that we had 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:11.440 talked about. Right at those at and Harper weren't used 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.240 and then they got a couple of days off and 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.839 they just looked a little sluggish, just overall looked a 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.000 little sluggish, And you would think that they'd be a 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.080 little bit more lively playing in this. 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.960 Series because it's an important one, especially for the Phillies. 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.439 Let's continue that thought in a second. 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It just seems like it's taken a 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.800 long time for this, for this back thing, and it's 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.840 been an uncertainty. Just wonder if there's quote unquote, as 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.480 you said, more to it, so we'll see. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.640 Yeah, I mean, and sometimes you don't like to listen. 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.120 I've been in these positions. 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.199 Everybody goes through bumps and bruises during the course of 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.240 one hundred and sixty two games ser season, and you 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.800 don't necessarily want to like divulge all the information because 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.679 that might give another team a competitive advantage, like when 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.880 a guy goes on the IL or the guys like 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.680 having to sit and not play for three or four days. 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.240 Okay, you got to give people, deliver the people the 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:15.240 news why is this happening? But there are certain things 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.640 that you know, you keep closer to the best because 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.599 you don't want to give, you know, other teams competitive advantages. 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.839 And so if somebody's banged up, whatever it may be, 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.400 sometimes it's it's okay to be a little quiet about it. 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:34.920 And and I understand that. But that said, you're right, 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.240 I mean, and I know Topper talked about it a 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.080 lot yesterday. His job is to make sure that these 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.760 guys are healthy because if they're healthy, they got a chance. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.600 If they're not healthy, it makes life a lot more difficult. 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.280 In September October, he was also quoted as saying, just 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.400 what we were saying, there's more to it than just him. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:58.079 He consults with the trainers, sports science people. It's a 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.640 group effort. He's gathering information from everybody, and. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.559 If a day of rest is prescribed, there's a lot 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:10.439 of people that are in on that decision, and you know, 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.640 they're all invested in it and they're going to and 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:14.120 the manager is going to follow through on. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.679 It, and the players themselves, and the players themselves as well. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.319 Todd Yeah, no, that you know. Rob is not a 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.760 guy who's very online. But he did make a point 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.520 to kind of I can't even remember the question that 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.600 got the ball rolling, but he made a point to say, listen, guys, 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.719 I hate losing. I want to win, but sometimes you 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.439 have to do them do things that you know you 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:40.840 can't exactly divulge everything. But I do hate to lose. 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:42.679 I do want to win, but sometimes you have to 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.720 look at the at the bigger picture. So yeah, Rubin, 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.560 and maybe those guys are banked up. And if they 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.320 are banged up, and he told them you are not playing. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.000 He did not want to. And we and you guys 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.880 talked about it the other day, just the routine and 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.240 the process of getting ready to pinch hit late in 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.959 the game. And I I I wrote about this, you know, 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:06.360 in an alternate universe. Right, say it's the ninth inning 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.480 and Rob goes, I want to win this game. I 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.640 want to sweep the Nationals. He sends Bryce Harper to 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.240 the plate, pulls an oblique on a swing, or he 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.640 blows out his hand. He run on the first baseline. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.440 And one of the questions after the game is had 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.959 he done his normal pregame routine now? But I just 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.880 wanted to win that ball game. Now Rex is on 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.080 the injured list, imagine what the uproar would be there. 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.079 So you know, it's damned if you do if you're 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.440 in your damned damned if you don't. So we got 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.679 you guys want to answer some questions from our two 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:44.000 let's do it. Got a lot got some questions here. Yesterday, 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:48.839 Hector Ners was released by the Chicago Cubs. This is 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.800 from Owen Swozo. I'm probably miss butchering that last name. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.400 Do you think Hector Harris would be a good waiver 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.800 claim or his underlying stats too much of a red flag? 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:01.839 I took a quick glance at his stats. Strike get 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.480 said down a little bit. You know, Hector, he walks 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.679 a ton of guys, lives on the edge a lot. 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:12.160 He's under his uh stack cast metrics are way or 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.160 are in the blues? Oh, they're all in the blues, 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:15.400 which is not good. You don't want to be in 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.480 the blues. You want to be in the reds. Hector Naris. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.440 Would you take a shot on Hector nearis? 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:21.080 I wouldn't. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.360 He's already hasn't he already cleared waivers? 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.240 So he he might have Yeah, he might have cleared. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.120 He can clear, he did clear, so he can go wherever. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:32.560 You know I would, I would, actually, you know, I 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:33.880 think they talk about everybody. 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.480 I would talk about it, but you know, I I 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.560 don't know, but I see all the fives and six 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:42.840 is down there in the bullpen e R since the 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.080 uh since the break UH. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:49.760 So I would definitely talk about it, but it wouldn't 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.600 be as a closer. I mean, they have a closer 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.680 stevens Uh. I don't know if I would do it, 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:56.720 and I'm not sure he would do it either. He 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.680 would come here. I think he might have something different, 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.000 but who knows. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:06.000 I love the guy, I love the person. I'm just 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.040 just for a couple of different reasons. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.960 And I kicked it around a little bit with uh 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:16.600 with some folks there in the clubhouse yesterday, because you know, 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.960 it's an interesting thought, just because you know, maybe another 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.960 veteran guy. He understands the Phillies. He's been there, he's 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:29.280 done it, he knows the system. I just think that 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.160 there's a couple of things against him. One the fact 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:33.920 that he lives on the edges. I mean, one of 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:35.880 the biggest problems that the Phillies have right now is 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.800 it consistent strikes out of the bullpen, right, and the 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.000 and the deep counts. You saw with Alvarado yesterday, You've 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.600 seen it with a lot of guys Oryan Kirkering. I mean, 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.400 it's the deep deep counts. Man, everybody's going two two 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.440 three two almost every time. There's not quick outs. There's 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.440 not you know, you saw that out of the out 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.680 of the Braves bullpen. They were just pounding the zone 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.760 and that's the way you get it done. And that's 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.520 scared me a little bit about Hector. And the other 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.640 thing I think is they need they probably need some 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.160 flexibility some guys that they could sort of move up 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:09.880 and down. I mean, if they pick him up and 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.040 then send him, there's not a lot of flexibility with them. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.120 They basically if they give him a chance and they 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.200 have to sort of release him or whatever. I don't 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.280 know if it creates a whole lot of flexibility, it's 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.160 a good thought. I just don't know if he's necessarily 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.800 the answer. The answer is in the clubhouse right now. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:32.600 Those guys have to start throwing consistent strikes and if 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.400 it doesn't happen, then that's going to be really trouble. 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.360 So then you got to get somebody to step forward. Hey, 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.040 every team's had like somebody. I remember years ago it 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.440 was like Bob walk and Marty Bistrom came up. The 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.600 young guys who came up, you know in nineteen eighty 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:50.080 and pitched their asses off. You need somebody to step up. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:51.840 Ryan Kirkerman did a pretty good job at the end 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.960 of the year last year. For somebody who's got to 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.600 step up and do their job. And hopefully there's somebody 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.080 out there who's light, you know, clicks on and they 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:02.480 and they start pitching better. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.800 Emily Horde on Twitter when hate when Austin Hayes comes 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:08.800 back from the injury list, how do you perceive Weston 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.720 Wilson's role on the team, given the fact that he 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.120 can play almost anywhere and can hit lefties very well. 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.520 Austin began a rehab assignment last night Tuesday night with 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.560 Triple A. It's going to play a few games, could 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.560 be back this weekend in Kansas City. Weston's played great, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:28.719 He's he has crushed lefties. You brought in You traded 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:33.320 for Austin Hayes, though, Yeah, and when you got him, 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:34.960 you see, this guy's are every day left field or 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:36.359 we want to see if he can play every day 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:40.720 in left field? That's what do you do with that. 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.120 I think they're gonna look at Hayes because they made 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.000 a trade for him. Sure, it was kind of their 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.920 signature every day, you know, position player trade and they'll 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.480 give him a look. But if Western Wilson, although. 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.399 His playing time is can cut back a little bit 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:59.200 after that big week, it's nice to know that he 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:00.879 can be there. I don't know how they're gonna balance it, 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.600 but I think you play the hot hand, and I 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.240 think Hayes is going to get a shot when he 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.600 comes back, especially if he swings it well up at 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:09.399 Lehigh Valley. 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.760 I think the answer is it really rests on Brandon 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.760 Marsh in a lot of ways. If they don't feel 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.960 like Brandon Marsh is able to hit right handers, and 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.240 he's been striking out at like a huge rate, and 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:26.159 I really like it. I like his game, his his 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:27.760 strikeout rates are really high. 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.080 And who knows? Does does he now sit against right 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:35.560 handers from time to time? Do they put Hayes and 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.600 Wilson in the same outfield. I doubt it. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:43.359 I don't think that's the right formula necessarily, But is 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.880 it possible. I mean, Hayes and Western Wilson can both 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:49.680 play center field. I don't know that they'll sacrifice the 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.919 you know, the defense for for maybe a little bit 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:58.080 more bad but I doubt they'll do that, but I 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.800 think a lot of it predicates on you know, they're 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.480 trust in Brandon marsh because he really he's kind of 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:05.760 been in fits and starts. 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.120 You know, Brandon's Brandon's. 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.720 Got a lot of ability, he just hasn't been super 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.440 consistent and is there are a lot of punch outs 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.199 to him in this game right now. 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.720 Don't you think we'll see West and Wilson tonight against 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:19.320 the lefty and give him. 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:23.520 It'll give him a shot to you know, try to 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.240 lay some claim to that job because you have to 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:28.120 go with the productive bat. 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.639 They need some mofents right now. They got to win 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.840 a game against these guys. And one thing we didn't 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.119 mention at the top is that, you know, the the 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:39.080 Braves are now within six games still comfortably. I still 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:40.760 think the Phillies are going to win the division. But 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.480 bigger picture, Dodgers now have the best record in the 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:48.280 National League and the Phillies and Brewers are tied for 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.200 the second best record in the National League. Now, the 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.399 Phillies right now have that they got to win one 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:54.919 more game to win the season. They had to head 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.960 tiebreaker over the Brewers, but they finish a game back 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.399 and the Brewers and the Dodgers. Now they're playing the 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:03.840 Braves and an NL Wildcard series at the season end 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.240 of the day. So got to get some of this, 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:08.600