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Speaker 1: This is Chase Utley and this is the Philly Show. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philly Show. Rubenmar Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd

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Speaker 1: z O Lucky. Wednesday, August twenty first, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: How are you guys doing today? You guys doing good?

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Speaker 2: I'm great, you know.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys a question.

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Speaker 2: Hot Atlanta, it's actually hot. It's not too hot, usually

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Speaker 2: not bad.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's the coolest I can remember being in a

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Speaker 1: long time in Atlanta in August.

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Speaker 3: Fallish and it's fallish in Chester County.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful. It's it's that time earlier. So last night,

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Speaker 1: last night, I get back to my hotel, and you

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Speaker 1: guys can appreciate this. I wanted to have a post

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Speaker 1: game beer, and uh so I go down to the

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to sit at the bar though, so

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to bring a beer back

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Speaker 1: up to my room. So I get a beer bottle

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Speaker 1: down there. I assume it's a twist off, go all

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Speaker 1: the way back to my room, cannot get the top

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Speaker 1: off the beer bottle. So I'm like, too lazy to

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Speaker 1: go back downstairs. I want to see if I can

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Speaker 1: do one of those cool things where you put on

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Speaker 1: the counter and you open it.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 1: I messed that up, so now some of the bottle

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Speaker 1: breaks on the top. So are you an amateur? I'm

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Speaker 1: an amateur. I'm an amateur. So here's what I did.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I can't waste this beer, but I

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Speaker 1: also don't want to choke on any glass. So I

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Speaker 1: poured some beer very gently into another glass and gingerly

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Speaker 1: would you have done the same thing? Because part of

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Speaker 1: me was going, if I get any in my throat,

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Speaker 1: am I gonna explain this? Am I that desperate? But

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Speaker 1: I did it. And then but after a couple of SIPs,

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Speaker 1: I was like, what am I doing to myself here?

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Speaker 1: I can't go to the hospital.

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Speaker 3: You gottah.

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Speaker 4: You gotta get a like a pipe bomb instead, where

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Speaker 4: you can you know, a tall boy where you.

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Speaker 3: Can pop the But I I've been where you are.

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Speaker 4: You get upstairs with a nice beer after working all

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Speaker 4: day and you can't open it. So what you're gonna

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Speaker 4: do is on the back of the door of the

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Speaker 4: hotel room door they have that little plastic sleeve where

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Speaker 4: they put like the fire instructions. Yeah, and you can

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Speaker 4: pry it off on that if you if you.

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Speaker 2: Love that, you know that the door locked, Jan just

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Speaker 2: popping in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you can.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the matter with you guys, you know, with

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Speaker 5: your wedding ring with Ryan, get pissed off at your

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Speaker 5: or what I could do the wedding as well.

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Speaker 4: Wedding ring pop you could do like like back when

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Speaker 4: I was a kid, there was a player named super

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Speaker 4: Joe Charbono. Remember Joe, Yeah, I think it was the

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Speaker 4: year and he actually was a legendary story that he

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Speaker 4: could open a beer bottle with his eye sockets.

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of guys you can do that. At

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Speaker 3: that point, you.

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Speaker 5: Had to deal with your teeth and stuff, you know, Pop,

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Speaker 5: it's that.

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Speaker 1: But I was like, but I seriously, I'm in my

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Speaker 1: room and I'm going, what am I doing here? Do

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Speaker 1: I Do I need a sip of beer? That bad?

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Speaker 1: I was like part of me was like, yes, the price,

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Speaker 1: Like let's let's let's pitch the rest. I don't need it.

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Speaker 1: I've avoided the worst.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're.

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Speaker 5: Taking matters into your own hands when you're pouring into

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Speaker 5: a glass in one of those places you never know

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Speaker 5: in the last time that was actually cleaned that is

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Speaker 5: also true.

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Speaker 3: Has got one of those skits he talks about.

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Speaker 6: Man, I don't know what he's you clean it a

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Speaker 6: glass with somebody's underwear or something.

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Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of pitch balls last night.

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Speaker 1: Uh at my hotel, for sure.

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Speaker 3: You up by the ballpark? Are you downtown?

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Speaker 1: I'm in Buckhead. I'm in Buckhead. You're not right across

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Speaker 1: the street from your nice Yes, sir, my place. You

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Speaker 1: know it's it's nice, it's nice. Uh so, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: last night there's some pitfalls during the game. Rinaldo Lopez,

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Speaker 1: just first game back from the il, strikes out ten guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, the top three guys in the lineup, go

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Speaker 1: oh for twelve with seven strikeouts, final seventeen. Phillies are

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Speaker 1: retired in order wit Maorfield. You knew he was going

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Speaker 1: to do something last night out.

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Speaker 3: You knew that.

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Speaker 1: No, you knew it was he that good Reuben Lopez.

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Speaker 1: Last night his.

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Speaker 5: Stuff was really really outstanding. I mean, we didn't take

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Speaker 5: a great, not a great approach against him, had opportunities to.

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Speaker 5: We had him on the ropes. Phillies had him on

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Speaker 5: the ropes a couple of times. There was a couple

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Speaker 5: of three zero counts. Brandon Brad Marsh got into a

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Speaker 5: couple of did I say Brad Brandon Marsh got into

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Speaker 5: a couple of you know, Marshie the guy, the hockey guy.

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Speaker 5: I talked to him all the time, so I screw

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Speaker 5: up the name all the time. But anyway, Brandon had

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Speaker 5: an opportunity, a couple opportunities with some three oh counts

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Speaker 5: to do some damage and like was taking all the

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Speaker 5: way up. I'm not sure if we had like the

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Speaker 5: best approach against him, but that slider he's got as

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Speaker 5: one of the best sliders I've seen. I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: like a it's if it's not twelve six, it's like

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Speaker 5: eleven to five. It's a downer. It's hard, it's firm.

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Speaker 5: He he's got a super quick arm, works super fast.

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Speaker 5: He does all the things that you want to do

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Speaker 5: as a starting pitcher. And it was a great find

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Speaker 5: by the Braves man signing him. Basically was signed. They

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Speaker 5: signed him as a as a bullpen guy, and then

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Speaker 5: he gave an opportunity to be a starter. He had

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Speaker 5: started years ago, maybe four or five years ago, and

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Speaker 5: then became a full time bullpen guy and did very

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Speaker 5: very well for Chicago White Sox, and then when they

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Speaker 5: signed him and they gave Hi an opportunity, he ran

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Speaker 5: with it. And he's been outstanding now that the workload

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Speaker 5: is an issue, and I think that's one of the

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Speaker 5: reasons why he had the stress elbow just.

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Speaker 2: Coming back from that il.

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Speaker 5: But he had only thrown maxed out at seventy one

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Speaker 5: pitches in z i el stint. But his stuff was

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Speaker 5: nasty and he took care of those first three guys

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Speaker 5: in the lineup. Turner made some contact at leads, but

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Speaker 5: the other guys, I mean, Harper and Schoberg got eaten

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Speaker 5: up pretty pretty pretty badly by that slider.

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Speaker 4: And when the Phillies had met on base, he made

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Speaker 4: big pitches, sometimes at the bottom.

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Speaker 3: Of the order.

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Speaker 5: But the other thing, the other thing I wanted to

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Speaker 5: say about that was that you know, his numbers coming

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Speaker 5: into the game point zero nine to six batting average

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Speaker 2: Position this season.

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Speaker 5: That is a ridiculous number that I mean, it got

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Speaker 5: better because he I mean, you talk about making pitches

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Speaker 5: when you have to, man, he was really good. And

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Speaker 5: then the fact that they just couldn't Mustard and they

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Speaker 5: couldn't get a base runner for three and a half

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Speaker 5: or four and a half innings.

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Speaker 3: Wheeler pitched really good. He left that one fastball right

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Speaker 3: down the belt, yep, and it was Zona crushed it.

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Speaker 4: Zona's having a great year. He's not far off of

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Speaker 4: Taani in that MVP discussion. You know, I think his

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Speaker 4: home run trot is silly, but the guy can mash.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm just kind of struck with this team. They have

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Speaker 4: trouble with good teams. They don't play consistently well against

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Speaker 4: the top teams. Against good teams, I don't even consider

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Speaker 4: Atlanta the top team with all their injuries. But they're

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Speaker 4: a good team, and they struggled against good pitching. Last night,

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Speaker 4: Atlanta had an elite level pitching. So yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 4: that could be a fear or concern, uh come October.

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Speaker 5: It could be they have that they've struggled against a

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Speaker 5: tough pitching. You know, in October they've actually had done

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Speaker 5: well against pretty good pitching when when it bell rings,

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Speaker 5: but at times. I mean, they got beat up at

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Speaker 5: the end with the Arizona uh uh in the NLCS.

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Speaker 5: But I you know, there's some adjustments need to be made.

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Speaker 5: I am a little concerned. I think it seems like

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Speaker 5: these guys are a little beat up. I found out

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Speaker 5: a little bit of information about, you know, the pinchhole

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Speaker 5: pinch inting thing on Sunday, why a couple of guys

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Speaker 5: didn't get in there. I just think that there's more

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Speaker 5: to it than just you know, these guys, you know,

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Speaker 5: didn't that Toper just wanted to rest them. I think

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Speaker 5: that they're bang They were banged up enough, I think

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Speaker 5: to maybe make sure that.

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Speaker 2: They they got their rest that day.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not sure exactly what it is, but I

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Speaker 5: just got the feeling just being in the clubhouse that

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Speaker 5: there was a little bit more to it. There was

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Speaker 5: a really late lineup delivery yesterday. We didn't get the

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Speaker 5: line up until well after Topp or even talked right

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Speaker 5: Todd right after we talked, you know, it just sounds

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Speaker 5: like some guys are a little bit uh beat up

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Speaker 5: right now, bumps and bruises, And I think that that

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Speaker 5: was part of the story about Sunday that we had

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Speaker 5: talked about. Right at those at and Harper weren't used

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Speaker 5: and then they got a couple of days off and

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Speaker 5: they just looked a little sluggish, just overall looked a

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Speaker 5: little sluggish, And you would think that they'd be a

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Speaker 5: little bit more lively playing in this.

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Speaker 2: Series because it's an important one, especially for the Phillies.

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Speaker 1: Let's continue that thought in a second. We will be

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Speaker 1: right back.

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Speaker 4: Well, Ruben, you was saying, you know, there was a

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Speaker 4: little more to it, and you believe it's more to it.

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Speaker 4: I think this is often more to it often, and

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Speaker 4: that's why I'm really curious to see what range of

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Speaker 4: Suarez looks like. It just seems like it's taken a

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Speaker 4: long time for this, for this back thing, and it's

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Speaker 4: been an uncertainty. Just wonder if there's quote unquote, as

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Speaker 4: you said, more to it, so we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and sometimes you don't like to listen.

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Speaker 2: I've been in these positions.

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Speaker 6: Everybody goes through bumps and bruises during the course of

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Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty two games ser season, and you

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Speaker 6: don't necessarily want to like divulge all the information because

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Speaker 6: that might give another team a competitive advantage, like when

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Speaker 5: I think the answer is it really rests on Brandon

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's the right formula necessarily, But is

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Speaker 4: It'll give him a shot to you know, try to

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Speaker 1: They need some mofents right now. They got to win

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Speaker 1: Would you guys sit Harper? Now he's not himself, Maybe

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fight for Red October. This is this is an

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Speaker 5: really worried about that all that much. I mean you

437
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Speaker 5: end up having, I mean, you know, a ridiculous lineup.

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Speaker 5: There's no I mean, he can dream on it, sure,

439
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Speaker 5: the problem dreaming on it. I just don't know that

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Speaker 5: they that they will have the payroll flexibility to do that.

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Speaker 2: That's you're talking about. You talk about over five hundred

442
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Speaker 2: million dollars I think for the guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's that's a negotiation that that's going to

444
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Speaker 3: take place. At the toll booth on the RFK Bridge

445
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Speaker 3: formerly the Triborough Bridge, because it's going to be Mets

446
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Speaker 3: and Yankees.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there will be no deferments deferrals in that

448
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: that contract, and unlike the Otani deal, that's gonna be

449
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Speaker 1: a real legit.

450
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Speaker 2: Five or more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is from Instagram DF Mets. What's with Jose Alvarado?

452
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Speaker 1: Do you guys have any thoughts on what's going on

453
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Speaker 1: with Jose? He walked four last night in less than

454
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Speaker 1: an inning. First Phillies pitcher to do that since Dustin McGown,

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Speaker 1: I think in twenty fifteen, only eleventh film he's reliever

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Speaker 1: to walk four in less than an inning. As far

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Speaker 1: back as Baseball Reference can go, it doesn't happen too often.

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Speaker 4: Watching him from the center field camera, he's it's just

459
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Speaker 4: his finish. He's all over the place. Yeah, he seems Yeah,

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Speaker 4: his mechanics and he's not really nicely aligned with home plate.

461
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Speaker 4: He's really kind of falling off and almost like Sir

462
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Speaker 4: Anthony when he used to go bad his direction. I

463
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Speaker 4: don't know if he's trying to throw too hard, trying

464
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Speaker 4: to make the ball do too much because he knows

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Speaker 4: he's been struggling, but he just seems when he's going good,

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Speaker 4: it seems to be just a natural flow to his release,

467
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Speaker 4: and it's just it's just not there. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if he's thinking too much because he's been struggling.

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Speaker 3: But it's troubling. I mean, the whole bullpen is troubling.

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Speaker 4: You know, they got very high arras out there since

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Speaker 4: the break, they're not throwing enough strikes there. If you

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Speaker 4: look at the stats, they're like in you know, the

473
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Speaker 4: bottom five and in walks and just their control numbers

474
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Speaker 4: are off and they're not pounding, and it's it's it's

475
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Speaker 4: a it's a big concern to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's it's a chicken of the egg. I'm

477
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Speaker 2: not sure which ones which.

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Speaker 5: So sometimes when you're not mentally where you need to be,

479
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Speaker 5: your mind does things. Your body does things that your

480
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Speaker 5: mind is making it. Do you know it's not a

481
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Speaker 5: natural flow, like you said, natural flow. He's not allowing

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Speaker 5: his mechanics. It might be his mind or is it

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Speaker 5: his mechanics failing him and then putting him in a

484
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Speaker 5: position to have less confidence. I think I'm not sure

485
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Speaker 5: which one it is, but I know as a player,

486
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Speaker 5: when I struggled mentally. I knew I took some tape

487
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 5: or back then it was tape, but and watched the

488
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Speaker 5: video that I was doing things that I would could

489
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Speaker 5: not believe I was doing. Like I was watching myself,

490
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Speaker 5: going is that me actually hitting? Because that's not what

491
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Speaker 5: I do when I hit, when I hit well. And

492
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Speaker 5: so I think that's sort of what's probably happening, that

493
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Speaker 5: his mind is not allowing him to get in a

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Speaker 5: position to be consistent, and you know, you just hope

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Speaker 5: that he shakes his way out of it, has a

496
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Speaker 5: couple of positive outings and can go from there.

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Speaker 4: How do you handle him because you know, you walk

498
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Speaker 4: four batters that can really you know, wound your confidence,

499
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Speaker 4: name your confidence.

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Speaker 1: How do you seriously, like, how.

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Speaker 3: Do you pick the next spot for him to get

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Speaker 3: in a ballgame after what you saw last night?

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Speaker 5: So the next spot that you get him in the

504
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 5: ballgame is when he's able, because he threw a lot

505
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Speaker 5: of pitches. But to me, the next time you pitch

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Speaker 5: the guy is in a non stress situation.

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Speaker 2: He pitches.

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Speaker 5: You know, in the fifth inning of it of a

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Speaker 5: game or sixth inning of a game where it's a

510
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Speaker 5: blowout either way, and you just get him on the

511
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Speaker 5: mound and get him to you know, get him to perform.

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Speaker 2: And hopefully he performs well.

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Speaker 5: Now, if he doesn't perform well again, then that makes

514
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Speaker 5: it even more difficult and things start to spiral.

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Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 3: For this guy.

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Speaker 5: I love Jose Alvarado. I love the man, and I

518
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 5: love the way he goes about it. He's a great teammate,

519
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 5: he's a great person. You pull for these guys because

520
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 5: one he can be dominant when he's on, and two

521
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Speaker 5: he's just a good guy. And you know, you hope

522
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Speaker 5: he works his things out, whether it's mechanical or mental.

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Speaker 5: You hope he gets on track.

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Speaker 1: Joe Massina Instagram. We get a lot of Scott Kingery questions,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw one out here. Why is Scott

526
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Speaker 1: Kingery buried? Cal Stevenson was not in the forty men

527
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Speaker 1: and they made room for him. I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: the answer is that they just don't feel like he's

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Speaker 1: the right guys. He's basically played only shortstop this season, shortstop,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of second base. I think he got

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Speaker 1: He's only played like one game or two games in

532
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Speaker 1: the outfield. They don't need an infielder right now. They

533
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Speaker 1: think Weston Wilson's a better option as an infielder. So

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Speaker 1: Scott Kingary's having a nice season in Triple A, stays

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Speaker 1: in Triple A.

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Speaker 4: You know, the outfield point is probably legit. He hasn't

537
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Speaker 4: played on That's kind of where their needs have been.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying go out there and play left field

539
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Speaker 4: for you, but you know they've seen a lot of

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Speaker 4: Scott Henry and they just probably feel like he's not

541
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Speaker 4: the answer, and they have other guys ahead of them

542
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Speaker 4: in their mind. You know, Wilson Hayes is going to

543
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Speaker 4: come back. They brought Stevenson, but I do you know

544
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Speaker 4: acknowledge he's He's had a nice year down there.

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Speaker 5: The bigger question for me is Cody Clements, Like why

546
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Speaker 5: is Cody Clements not in the big leagues and Cal

547
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Speaker 5: Stevenson is. I think Cody Clemens is a more accomplished hitter,

548
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Speaker 5: and I think he's got more to offer than does

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Speaker 5: Cale Stevens. And I know Cal Stevens is swinging the

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Speaker 5: bat very well. With Cody Clemens, I.

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Speaker 2: Think he's close.

552
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Speaker 5: I think he's healthy, he's been healthy, he's been playing.

553
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 5: I think that maybe it could be a defensive thing,

554
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 5: but they got both Marshall and and Roll has to

555
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 5: play center field, so you know, I don't I'm not

556
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Speaker 5: really I don't really understand that the profile there. I

557
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 5: do think that Cody Clements is a little bit more

558
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 5: accomplished hitter. But hey man, I'm glad I don't have

559
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Speaker 5: to make those decisions. There's always reasons why, and uh,

560
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Speaker 5: I'm not a fly on the wall anymore, so I

561
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Speaker 5: don't have to worry about those decisions.

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Speaker 2: It's just curious.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get in some uh well, we'll start wrapping

564
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Speaker 1: this up with some off topic, offbeat questions. This is

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Speaker 1: from Anthony on Twitter as Anthony Espenson. Which Phillies player

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Speaker 1: would be great at a different sport minus Johann Rojas

567
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: at ultimate frisbee. His downfield speed and lateral quickness would

568
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Speaker 1: be unstoppable on cuts. Ten minutes with me and I'll

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Speaker 1: get him competent and throwing a frisbee.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Wow to the frisbee. I don't know enough about

571
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Speaker 2: frisbee to make that call.

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Speaker 1: But good I don't know either. I'm gonna take his

573
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Speaker 1: word and say he can make Johann Rojas are an

574
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Speaker 1: ultimate frisbee player. I mean, I think, what's what's the

575
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Speaker 1: cop on answer?

576
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: J T Real mutto at any sport football, WWE you know,

578
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: tremendous athlete.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good I think.

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Speaker 3: I think Bryce Harper, like especially in his twenties, could

581
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Speaker 3: have been like a Ronnie Lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just pulverize somebody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like just you know what position do you call it?

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Speaker 3: I don't even know? Safety?

585
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 1: Safety right?

586
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: Safety?

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00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: Maybe?

588
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just you know, accelerate up and crush people.

589
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: I could see, uh, I could see Bryce Harper being that.

590
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would definitely throw his body at somebody.

591
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would be. He attacked when he charged the

592
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Speaker 3: mound on that guy in San Francisco.

593
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Speaker 1: Hunter Strickland.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Then the bodies were coming out with That

595
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Speaker 3: is an intense video. I think Brandon Marsh.

596
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Speaker 2: Would be a pretty good cover guy. I'd see him

597
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Speaker 2: as a D back.

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Speaker 1: I could see that.

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Speaker 2: I see Brandon Marsh is a little d back or

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Speaker 2: maybe even like a maybe like a slot receiver.

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Speaker 3: I could see Trey Turner being like a Tommy Fleetwood

602
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Speaker 3: on the golf course.

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Speaker 1: That's true. There there are some good golfers on that

604
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Speaker 1: there's some good golfers on the team.

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Speaker 2: There, yeah, there are.

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of guys that could, uh who.

607
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Speaker 2: Can wheel it a little bit the best?

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Speaker 3: Oh really? Yeah?

609
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think he might be one of the

610
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Speaker 2: better ones.

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Speaker 1: Rubin. Our friend SIXO has a question for it. I

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Speaker 1: honestly have no idea what this means. I have no

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Speaker 1: idea what this means. Why does Ruben hate having lunch

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Speaker 1: with his friends? I have no idea what that means.

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00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Ruben?

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Speaker 2: Do you have any idea that?

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Speaker 1: But no, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where it comes to you.

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Speaker 1: Did you did somebody on the lunch?

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Speaker 5: He comes from left field a lot. That's Jim's buddy,

622
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Speaker 5: that's Slsbury's bobo.

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Speaker 3: I've been Uh, I don't know. I I basically owe

624
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Speaker 3: six to lunch for about five years. Like maybe that's it.

625
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Speaker 3: Maybe that's answer like a trivia Twitter question once and

626
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Speaker 3: and but then the pandemic came and I became a hermit.

627
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: And did you throw me under the bus?

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Speaker 1: That was four years ago, Jim, But he said he

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Speaker 1: wanted to.

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Speaker 3: Have lunch with you. If you remember, he's if you

631
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Speaker 3: remember he used to always be on your ass, and

632
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: I talked him off your ass, Ruben, So you know,

633
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: you know, was he the only guy on my ass? Yeah?

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00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: He wasn't the only one, Ruben.

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Speaker 1: That was the one that was the one guy that

636
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Speaker 1: was on you for.

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Speaker 2: Lunch.

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00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: Happened very very soon, six stough.

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00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: So here's another one. This is from Pat Kritz. Pat

640
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Speaker 1: Kritz designed the Philly Show logo regarding the smellulator sign

641
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Speaker 1: off what exactly are we smelling? Later like, if the

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00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: Philly Show were a Yankee candle or a colone, what

643
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: would the fragrance be? And he said hashtag merchandising ideas

644
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: a Philly Show Yankee candle.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Todd, do you remember Ruben?

646
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 4: So when game Kapler was the manager, he used to

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Speaker 4: have scented candles in the manager office. I still remember

648
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 4: walking into the clubhouse and the managers in Tampa Bay, Todd,

649
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 4: do you remember this?

650
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Speaker 3: And he had offee scented candle after the game, and

651
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: honestly got it smelt like the best Starbucks on Earth.

652
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Speaker 3: And I had my wife buy one because it was

653
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Speaker 3: so intoxicating. It was. It was so nice. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: even focus on the interview. His office smelt so good.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to be in the right spirit man. He

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Speaker 2: always wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Be in the right There was definitely a vibe when

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Speaker 1: he walked into Gabe's office.

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Speaker 3: Uh you know.

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Speaker 1: He he painted the walls in his office instance of

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Speaker 1: Bank Park and in Clearwater. It was you know, usually

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Speaker 1: it's like an office, you know, white, big awful fluorescent lights.

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Speaker 1: He he painted the room like a nice relaxing gray, right,

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Speaker 1: Jim was like a gray. And then he put in

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Speaker 1: his own lights and missed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was definitely a vibe. Always some some music playing

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Speaker 1: lowly in the background. So, uh, that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: So what we would do caught, we would do coffee.

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Speaker 2: I like coffee.

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Speaker 3: I could smell the show.

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Speaker 2: That'd be a good one for me.

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Speaker 1: You know, grass and grass and dirt, you know, for baseball.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: How about pine tar, that's a good visual.

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Speaker 1: I smelled a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: I was that boy and added all over my hands

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Speaker 2: all the time.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they don't they use that tough skin though

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Speaker 3: they don't. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: The motor stick doesn't smell like when the bat boy

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Speaker 4: would pour the pine tar on the rag.

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Speaker 3: I mean that was baseball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's when men were men.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Going again, James.

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Speaker 1: This is an interesting one. Ginger Avenger for a couple

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Speaker 1: of questions related any funny stories of about the baseball's

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Speaker 1: unwritten rules being broken? And are there any unwritten rules

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Speaker 1: for beat writers?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, never wear shorts on a plane. No shorts

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Speaker 3: on a plane. That's my rule. That is the.

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Speaker 5: No shorts at that when you're when you have your notebook. Man,

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Speaker 5: come on, when I'm working.

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Speaker 2: I used to get remember, I used to get all

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Speaker 2: you guys about how you're addressed.

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Speaker 5: I think it was maybe maybe it was David Murphy,

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Speaker 5: Like David Murphy would come in like with like a

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Speaker 5: T shirt and like raggedy jeans or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I was like, dude, can you dress like a professional please?

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Speaker 1: I'm I agree, I no, I agree, I I I

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00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: always wear pants at the ballpark. Some some people will

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Speaker 1: wear shorts. I'm not a fan of the look. Myself.

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00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: I wear a collared shirt. I'm not a fan of

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Speaker 1: the T shirt look. Jim, you've occasionally warned a T

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Speaker 1: shirt to the old ballyard.

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Speaker 2: That's because you don't want to get You wanted to

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Speaker 2: give Hamburger training Hamburger.

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Speaker 4: But I would always have my TV shirt hanging, you know,

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Speaker 4: with my college shirt if I need to need to switch.

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00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: Do you remember here's another pet, even mine.

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Speaker 3: On the road.

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00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: You show up for a three game series, you sit

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Speaker 4: in the same seat all three days. I used to

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00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: hate it with somebody plopping your seat on day three.

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00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 4: You would throw my feng shua off.

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00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 3: I couldn't work totally great.

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00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: If you pick your seat first game of a series,

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00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: you sit there. You do not move seats. You do

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Speaker 1: not move seats. I've seen Jim get very very mad, Rubin.

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00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: He gets like like totally thrown off his game. If

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Speaker 1: if somebody, if he shows up at the ballpark and

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Speaker 1: someone sitting in his seat, especially in Clearwater Spring Training

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00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: and city Field, he'd lose his mind.

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00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: He wait, so I have a quick question about that.

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00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: Let me pose my own question. So there's a hierarchy

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00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: where you sit, right? Is it the veteran, the guy

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00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: who's been on the the longest.

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00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Is there a hierarchy where you guys not really as

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00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: to where you are at home?

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Speaker 5: Typically, like I know, nobody's on one side, and then

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Speaker 5: it's inquirer and then it's you.

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Speaker 2: Todd, and yeah, Jim and then Todd, do you guys

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00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: line up in that or how does it work for you?

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Speaker 3: Guys at home were long standing and and and they

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: were marked off though too. Yeah, they're kind of on

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00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 3: the on the road on the road, on the road.

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Speaker 3: Usually sometimes it's marked off, but usually just says visiting

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00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 3: media and you know four or five here you walking.

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Speaker 4: Hey, your seat is your seat that first day. I

742
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 4: used to love that seat next to the petition in

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00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 4: city field.

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00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: Todd. I know they would notice get on me because

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00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: Ruben I like to spread out. Todd will always give

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00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: me a lot, like when I sit next to you.

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00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: You got crap everywhere you got, you got ship everywhere.

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00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: Jim would walk in, Jim, Jim will walk into the

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Speaker 1: press box. He's the only guy will still go to

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00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: the d wah wah or wherever in New York and

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00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: come it'll show up. And then they have the New

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00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: York Post, and then the Daily News and then the

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00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: New York Times, and they're all spread out everywhere, plastic

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00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: bag full of goodies.

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00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: Goodie's gonna have goodies, you gonna have a coffee, you

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00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: gonna have goodies.

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00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: So that would be the unwritten rules, right, stay in

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00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: your seat, pick your seat, stay in your eat. Jim

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00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: doesn't like shorts. No shorts.

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00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: I remember Gelby showed up early in his career with

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00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: shorts on. I was like, dude, that's a no no.

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00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got you gotta wear them out because you

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00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 4: don't want to be sitting on a plane and touching

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Speaker 4: somebody's leg.

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00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: You know, a scab on there, a mosquito.

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Speaker 2: Stop stop it.

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00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: There's a great you know, Jim, it's funny. There's a

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00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: great uh scene in Curb Your Enthusiasm. Larry David has

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00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: the same bit in an episode of Criby Your Enthusiasm.

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Speaker 1: He jumped for me.

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00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: He you probably did.

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00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: He jumps some guy in the show about wearing shorts

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00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: on a plane says, I don't want to look at

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00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: your legs for four hours. This is it's disgusting. Harry,

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00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: it's gross. Put on some pants. I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 3: And here's the other thing. If you get a window seat,

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00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 3: you do not get up to go to the bathroom.

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00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 3: You hold it. You do not disturb the people next

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00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: to you. If I'm on the aisle, I don't want to,

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00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: you know, just you can wait until you get to

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00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: Cincinnati to use the restaurant.

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Speaker 5: The other thing is that have you guys end up

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Speaker 5: being on a plane lately where there's not all three

784
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 5: seats taken?

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00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember, I remember the days where you'd

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00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 3: get on an early morning plane and you could move

787
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: around because it would be open seats. Yeah and ale

788
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: at nice and spacious and you could spread out. Now

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00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: everything's a starting, can it is.

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00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: That's a great place to end. No shorts on a plane, everybody.

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Speaker 1: If you disagree, send us a tweet at Jimmy Hills.

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00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: We'll set you straight. So we'll be back later this week.

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