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Speaker 3: What's going on, brother? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: What's happening? Doing? Alright? Not too bad?

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Speaker 3: How are you great?

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Speaker 2: You know for a Saturday in June with no NBA

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Speaker 2: or with the NBA being over, it's still pretty entertaining night.

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Speaker 2: We got the College World Series. Is sore of starting

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Speaker 2: to get interesting. A and M was up nine two

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Speaker 2: it's now, I believe nine five ninety six, something like that,

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Speaker 2: as Desager said. We got the Freeway Series, Dodgers and

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Speaker 2: Angels just not far from where I'm sitting right now,

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Speaker 2: some Major League Baseball games, Copa America, the euro Championships

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Speaker 2: in the morning.

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Speaker 3: So things have been good.

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Speaker 2: Jason, But let's not beat around the bush. Let's get

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Speaker 2: to the big topic of the week. There are really

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Speaker 2: two big topics. We'll get to the Celtics winning another

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Speaker 2: NBA championship later. But the news that I think, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't want to speak for anybody else,

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Speaker 2: but the news that I kind of always expected did

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Speaker 2: officially break on Thursday afternoon. Los Angeles Lakers weird coaching

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Speaker 2: search fire Darvin Ham. On May fourth, it gets really quiet.

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Speaker 2: JJ Reddick says, I'm not commenting on my future until

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Speaker 2: after the NBA Finals. Then Dan Hurley gets involved, nobody

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Speaker 2: else really seems to be whatever. Then there's like a

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Speaker 2: half a moment where people are saying, maybe Manti Williams

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Speaker 2: gets the Lakers job, maybe JJ Reddick gets the Piston's job. Well,

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Speaker 2: it all comes to the end that again I don't

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Speaker 2: want to speak for you, but at least I expected

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Speaker 2: JJ Reddick gets that Los Angeles Lakers head coaching job

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Speaker 2: first and foremost. Jason, you know, it been been about

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Speaker 2: six weeks since since Darvinham was fired. There's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of just stuff out there. Are you ultimately surprised

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Speaker 2: that this is where it ended for the Los Angeles Lakers.

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Speaker 1: If you asked me six weeks ago, yeah, if you

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Speaker 1: asked me over the last four no, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've been able to see these breadcrumbs for a while.

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Speaker 1: I think the the Dan Hurley thing, notwithstanding, this is

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Speaker 1: where I saw it going too, because I read the

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Speaker 1: articles from people that I know are tied close to

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Speaker 1: the right. People like that. You have people that you

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Speaker 1: can tell some of their sourcing is coming from Clutch,

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Speaker 1: or it's coming from Lebron, or it's coming from somebody

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Speaker 1: out there. That there's a reason why certain information gets out,

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Speaker 1: and there's a reason why it gets out in the

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Speaker 1: way that it gets out, in the time it gets out.

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Speaker 1: And the stuff that you were reading just indicated this.

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Speaker 1: And you can actually now go and you can look

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Speaker 1: at the Danny Hurly thing, and you can almost you

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Speaker 1: can almost kind of point at Adrian wilchin Rowski and say,

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Speaker 1: you just were upset. You got scooped, weren't you, And

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Speaker 1: so you threw what you threw out the next day

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Speaker 1: because Sham's actually had it right from the beginning, and

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Speaker 1: he was the one that also wrote the article that

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Speaker 1: was just like, man, you've got to check out this

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Speaker 1: podcast that Lebron James is hosting with JJ Reddick. It's

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Speaker 1: amazing how they break down all these schemes and all

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Speaker 1: this other stuff. But Lebron's out of the coaching searchry

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Speaker 1: like he had. He had nothing to nothing to do

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Speaker 1: whatsoever with it. But except for the fact that the

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Speaker 2: Well he was the teams said he was also the

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Speaker 2: most boring NBA Finals broadcaster in his so I mean

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Speaker 2: he he the resume getting pretty lengthy at this point.

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Speaker 1: What's annoying. What's weird about it is he's good on TV.

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Speaker 1: I think, like just as a you know, as a

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's terrible as an entertainer or terrible

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Speaker 1: I just think that was the wrong role for him,

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Speaker 1: and I think he did really probably because he just

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Speaker 3: Let me jump in.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it was because he knew he was

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Speaker 2: either even if we don't want to assume that he

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Speaker 2: was going to be the Lakers coach, but I mean

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Speaker 2: he was clearly, you know, willing to interview for other jobs.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it became the thing where he went

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Speaker 2: naturally by the way I would add, I mean, he

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Speaker 2: probably started calling games a year or two ago, so

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Speaker 2: it's not as though he has the Jeff Van Gundy

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Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty year resume of doing this.

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Speaker 3: It is possible that he was just bad.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny, what you just laid out is

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Speaker 1: exactly what he's walking into as a head coacher. Like, true,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the Jeff Van Goodney fifteen or twenty Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he has nothing he coached, like a little league or

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Speaker 1: coming from youth basketball. Basically, I don't know. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: So I can't say yes or no because I gotta

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Speaker 1: admit I didn't really watch any of his broadcast during

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Speaker 1: the year, not because I went out of my way

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Speaker 1: not to it, just for whatever reason, those were broadcasts

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Speaker 1: have a good breadth of who is JJ Reddick in

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Speaker 1: the booths until the postseason, and it was not good,

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Speaker 1: especially in the Eastern Conference Finals. You could just see

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Speaker 1: it's just okay, this is this is not a very

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Speaker 1: chemistry here. But I mean, it could be that he knew,

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Speaker 1: you would have to think he already knew where this

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Speaker 1: it put out there. But I look at this and

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Speaker 1: you talk about Darvin Ham and JJ Reddick. Anybody that

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Speaker 1: tells you it's going to be better with JJ Reddick

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Speaker 1: than it was with Darvin Ham is talking out of

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Speaker 1: their rear end. Because we have no idea. It may

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Speaker 1: well be, it may well be phenomenal. It could be

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Speaker 1: how this is going to go, because we've never seen

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick anywhere near this level of coaching, and so

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Speaker 1: it's a complete and total crapshoot. This happened because he

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's so interesting to me. And again, I

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Speaker 2: don't mean to keep bringing up to Dan Hurley thing.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows I'm a Yukon guy, but I I I said,

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Speaker 2: as soon as Dan Hurley the whole thing started, and

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Speaker 2: we don't have to relitigate my Dan Hurley take. But

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Speaker 2: I said, I don't think the Laker because because what

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Speaker 2: I got was, oh Tours, you're being a Yukon homer.

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Speaker 2: You don't turn down the Lakers when they call. And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, people turn down the Lakers all the time,

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Speaker 2: first time head coach, last time they had needed a coach,

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Speaker 2: Frank Vogel was on his third fourth chance.

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Speaker 3: Now Frank Vogel, his credit led him to a title.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: But the point, I'm trying to make people turn down

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Speaker 2: the Lakers all the time. But my point was I

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Speaker 2: don't think this iteration of the Lakers with a soon

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Speaker 2: the record saying I don't believe that if Lebron is

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Speaker 2: your best player in twenty twenty four, you can win

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Speaker 2: a championship. But I also believe Lebron is too egotistical

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Speaker 2: to not be the focal point. Now you could argue

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Speaker 2: Anthony Davis is a little bit better. Whatever we know

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Speaker 2: in that locker room kind of the pecking order. And

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Speaker 2: so why I bring up the Dan Hurley thing. It

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Speaker 2: never made sense to Dan Hurley. But I was surprised

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Speaker 2: at how many people fell like, oh, Dan Hurley has

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's only because he's Lebron's buddy. It's like,

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Speaker 2: this is where it was trending the whole time. And again,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's because I live in LA maybe it's because

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Speaker 2: we work in sports talk radio. But all you had

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Speaker 2: to do was follow very basic breadcrumbs. You know, the

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Speaker 2: Lakers get eliminated right around the same time the Suns do.

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Speaker 2: The Suns higher Budenholzer in like four days. We're talking

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Speaker 3: Basically nothing.

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Speaker 2: There's sort of a James Berazio thing that sort of

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Speaker 2: what it was or whatever. And then the Dan Hurley

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Speaker 2: was JJ Redick is the reported front runner from the beginning.

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Speaker 2: JJ Redick is literally asked about it before the finals

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Speaker 2: It's just it was surprising to me, the Dan Hurley

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Speaker 2: the Lakers. It's like, yeah, is like, is this a surprise?

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Speaker 2: Is this I again, maybe I live in LA maybe

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Speaker 2: I work in Fox, you know, in sports sports taw radio,

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Speaker 2: But I just was like surprised that people were surprised that, oh,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's what it is. Like

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Speaker 1: I said the same thing the whole like, well, we

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Speaker 1: know who runs the Lakers, but I mean that wasn't news.

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Speaker 1: That's been there for a while. Like we we've known

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Speaker 1: who's running the Lakers for quite some time now, pretty

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Speaker 1: much since he got there. He's the one that calls

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Speaker 1: the shots. And when you started seeing what you started

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Speaker 1: finish to it. Now, when Dan Hurley came in there,

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Speaker 1: that certainly stopped me because when I first saw that

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Speaker 1: must have already been near the finish line on this thing,

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Speaker 1: because why else would it come out. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: they've got their coach. And that was just because he

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Speaker 1: ahead and announce this. We bought another you know, five

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Speaker 1: just kind of morphed its way right on back out

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Speaker 1: and step into the job. The only thing that was

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Speaker 3: So whether you.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live Fromthtirerack dot com studios. Before the break, we're talking

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Speaker 2: forward to the future, Jason, do want to quickly look

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Speaker 1: How could I forget?

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Speaker 2: But let's go back to that simple time in twenty

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Speaker 1: Did that happen? That happened on a Saturday, right because

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Speaker 2: me and him went back for a minute or two,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't think much of it. Well, I bring

433
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Speaker 2: it up because I'm sitting there probably a week or

434
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Speaker 2: two later, Jason and my phone just starts blowing up.

435
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: What is going on? And all of a sudden, I

436
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,479
Speaker 2: get like thirty people like Taurres, did you see what

437
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: JJ Reddick just said about you? Did you see what

438
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Speaker 2: JJ Reddick just said about you? I'm like, what are

439
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: you talking about? And so people sent me a clip

440
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Speaker 2: from his show Old Man in the Three, Mary Mack,

441
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Speaker 2: why don't you go ahead and play JJ Reddick In

442
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Speaker 2: March of twenty twenty two, talking about Torres.

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Speaker 6: I had this tweet the other day. Some knucklehead said,

444
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Speaker 6: if NBA teams played defense as hard as college kids,

445
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Speaker 6: I bet you the scores would be in the seventies

446
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 6: and eighties too. First of all, I mean it's just math.

447
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 6: First of all, the shot clocks longer, so there's gonna

448
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Speaker 6: be more possessions in NBA game, and there's eight more

449
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 6: minutes of basketball, so Ed, that's not possible.

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Speaker 3: There is the Los Angeles Lakers head coach calling me

451
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Speaker 3: an f ed. Jason.

452
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Speaker 2: By the way, did you catch the final score of

453
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Speaker 2: Game five of the NBA Finals the other night, MAVs,

454
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Speaker 2: I'll just do it for.

455
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Speaker 1: You, Boston please. I don't remember, but I have a

456
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Speaker 1: feeling I know where we're going here.

457
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: Boston one oh six, Dallas eighty eight. But according to

458
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Speaker 2: the new Lakers head coach, it's a math equation, f head,

459
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: there's eight more minutes in the game.

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Speaker 3: Jason, did you catch the score of Game.

461
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Speaker 2: Four of the NBA Finals? It was MAVs one twenty

462
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Speaker 2: two Boston eighty four. But it's a math equation, f head,

463
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Speaker 2: it's a math equation. Oh, by the way, Game one

464
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Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals Boston one oh seven, Dallas eighty nine.

465
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Speaker 3: Three of the four or five games were in the eighties.

466
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Speaker 3: And by these good news.

467
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Speaker 1: Though, I mean J. J. Reddick probably didn't watch those games.

468
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Speaker 1: Oh I know, wait, he called those games.

469
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Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't say much about them. He did,

470
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Speaker 2: he was I think he was technically in the building.

471
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Speaker 1: He was in a suit at mid court.

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Speaker 2: I will say there is a happy ending to this story,

473
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Speaker 2: by the way, because after he called me an f ed,

474
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: I made sure to tweeted him every single time a

475
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: game ended in the seventies or eighties, and then everybody

476
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Speaker 2: who follows me started doing the same. And eventually, when

477
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 2: he realized that he was dead wrong, he just had

478
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Speaker 2: to block me because he just knew that I was

479
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 2: never gonna let up. So you know, that was a

480
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: little bit of my East Coast I don't start fights.

481
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 2: I finished him, but I bring it up to say, Jason,

482
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Speaker 2: I will say this is that Listen. I think it's

483
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Speaker 2: fun audio to play. I think it's especially fun because

484
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: three of the NBA Finals games ended with the losing

485
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: team scoring in the eighties. Torres was right, Reddick was wrong.

486
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Speaker 2: No big deal. But I mean, you listen to that clip.

487
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Speaker 2: You listen to that, I would call it arrogance. Maybe

488
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Speaker 2: other people wouldn't feel that way. That guy is the

489
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Speaker 2: face of the Los Angeles Lakers, and I do just

490
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Speaker 2: think there is something too. Would you ever catch Eric

491
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: Spolster talking like that? Did you ever catch Jason Kidd

492
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: talking like that? And I don't know, Maybe I'm over

493
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: exaggerating because it was a shot at me. But it's like,

494
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Speaker 2: I just think that speaks to who this guy is,

495
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: and it speaks to the conversation that we had in

496
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Speaker 2: the first segment, which was does this guy really know

497
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Speaker 2: what he's getting himself into?

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Speaker 1: I certainly wouldn't. I mean, I've never met JJ Reddick

499
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Speaker 1: and I've never had a conversation with JJ Reddick. I

500
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Speaker 1: certainly would not.

501
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Speaker 3: Has he ever called you a derogatory name?

502
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Speaker 1: Though? No, Well, like I said, he's had no reason

503
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Speaker 1: to because I've never had an interaction with him. I

504
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: have no idea what kind of guy he is. I

505
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Speaker 1: certainly am not gonna speak to that side of it.

506
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Speaker 1: It's not a word that you want to use. It's

507
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Speaker 1: one that gets I don't know about that specific word,

508
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: but there's plenty of rough language to be found across

509
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: professional sports. There's no question about that. And you look

510
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: at the room that he was in in the moment

511
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Speaker 1: that he used that on that podcast. I think you

512
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Speaker 1: sent me the screenshot of it earlier. Was it Kevin

513
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Speaker 1: Durant there?

514
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant was there. I swear to god, he was.

515
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: A couple other guys in a room and so he's

516
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Speaker 1: doing his thing, and I bet you that is language

517
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: that's used in the locker room. And one of the

518
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: reasons why this hire happens is because he's one of

519
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: the guys. And that was an indicator right there, Like

520
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: you go back and listen to that podcast. This is

521
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: the athlete podcast style, not that everybody does it the

522
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: same way, but it's just guys talking. It's letting you

523
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: in however far they're willing to let you in. But

524
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just kind of like they've got a microphone

525
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: in a locker room and you're listening to them talk

526
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: and you're you're kind of hearing things from a different

527
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Speaker 1: perspective what JJ Reddick said. I have no idea what

528
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Speaker 1: that means about his future. I know that there are

529
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Speaker 1: or what kind of guy is or anything like that.

530
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Speaker 1: It's not the best. The whole thing was just kind

531
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Speaker 1: of ridiculous, Like I don't know why Reddick would actually

532
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: find that and feel the need originally to comment on

533
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: your tweet, Like that's the part of it that I've

534
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: always looked back and it's just like you're JJ Reddick,

535
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: with no disrespect you Torres, but it's like, why do

536
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: you care like this is just somebody else in a

537
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: sea that's tweeting something about sports, and even if you

538
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: take offense to it, you like quote tweeting it and

539
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: putting it out there to try and get you like

540
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: crushed by his followers or by other people any NBA.

541
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: It was just kind of dumb, like there's no, there's no.

542
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't think there was going to be a win

543
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: there for JJ Reddick. But I also think that like

544
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: the whole idea of now we're going to take this

545
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 1: word that is very uncalled for and now let's explain

546
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: the genesis of it and all this kind of stuff.

547
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: Like I did see some stuff this week like the

548
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: podcast might be good, but we've got to get rid

549
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: of the podcast because the Lakers organization can't have a

550
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: dude with his hat on backwards doing a podcast with

551
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: guys and also coaching the team. I don't know what

552
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: the perception is supposed to be now because things have

553
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: changed so much the way that the athletes speak, in

554
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 1: the way that they are permitted to speak through their

555
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: own channels and things like that, in a way that

556
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: it's just not as controlled as it once was. So

557
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is just kind of the

558
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: first sea change or the first indicator of something that

559
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: is shifting in terms of coaching hires. But what's your

560
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: take on it? I mean, does it do you look

561
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: at it and say anything past I mean, like I said,

562
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go after his character.

563
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: It could be a great dude. I have no idea.

564
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: It's just a bad moment. But look, I've had some

565
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: bad moments too.

566
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I can say that I've never

567
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: publicly called anybody a name like that that I don't

568
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: know unless they said something like that to me first,

569
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: in which case like a JJ Reddick, Yeah, I would

570
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: not feel comfortable saying that.

571
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Speaker 3: I actually do disagree a little bit and maybe maybe

572
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: being a little bit.

573
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Speaker 1: Over those that might be fine.

574
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Speaker 2: I just think again, I just think that it's hard,

575
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: Like this is a real job and now he's trying

576
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: to do the selling of you know, you know, I'm

577
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: a grinder and you know, nothing's no one takes the

578
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: job more seriously than I do.

579
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't know.

580
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: I just the way that I look at it is

581
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: I just think there's a way like I think you

582
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: are who you are and by the way, like locker

583
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: room talk whatever. Like I said, I don't think that

584
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: Jason Kidd if he had a podcast, or Joe Missoula,

585
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: if you want to put somebody more in JJ Reddick's

586
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: age range. I just don't think you would talk about

587
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: people like that. And I don't really care that he

588
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: talked about someone in this case me like that. It's

589
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: more that I do think there's like a level of Again,

590
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: I think arrogance is probably a word, but I think

591
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: it's just a level of maturity that I just I

592
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: think you can say all the right things, and you know,

593
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: he'll probably have a press conference Monday or Tuesday and oh,

594
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: you know, this is the job I've been preparing for

595
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: my whole life, and blah blah, blah blah blah. But

596
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: I do still think you are who you are. You know,

597
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: He's obviously had some other contentious moments during his time

598
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: in the media, and I am curious to see how

599
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: he handles the media when things go back, because you

600
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 2: know that especially thirty nine year old forty year old

601
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: Lebron Listen, he's got you know, he's not the same

602
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: player he was.

603
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis.

604
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Speaker 2: It's hard to expect him to play the seventy six,

605
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: seventy seven games, whatever it was this year, and there's

606
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 2: gonna be crap hitting the fan and I am curious

607
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: how he handles things.

608
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: Any last thoughts before we get to segregation.

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Speaker 1: H I will say this, the podcast itself, fact he's

610
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: hosting podcasts and doing some of the things that he's done,

611
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Speaker 1: it just doesn't strike me as a guy that thought

612
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: he was going to be in this spot. That's That's

613
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: the one thing that I would say that's interesting about

614
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: where he finds himself right now in twenty twenty four.

615
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Speaker 1: I don't think that Jay had that in twenty twenty two,

616
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: thought he was ever going to be coaching the LA Lakers.

617
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that that was And maybe it was.

618
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: Maybe he's always wanted to coach. Maybe that's always been

619
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: there and I just haven't heard it. But just this

620
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: felt like he wanted to be a celebrity, like he

621
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: wanted to be a podcast host. He wanted to be

622
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Speaker 1: one of those kind of media types that was going

623
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: to be a lifer, that gonna be somebody that was

624
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: gonna be willing to say things and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Does it strike me as a guy that thought he

626
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Speaker 1: was gonna coach. Because it's kind of similar to be

627
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Speaker 1: careful what you put on social media because it's written

628
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: a permanent marker, you know, it's written in ink. Well,

629
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: the same thing's true of a podcast, like we just

630
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Speaker 1: played the audio from two years ago. JJ Reddick may

631
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: not be that guy, but that lives forever. And the

632
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: choices that you make in the lead up don't strike

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Speaker 1: me as a guy that was paving the way to

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Speaker 1: be an NBA head coach, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: No, I think I think that's fair, and I think

636
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: the social media analogy is a smart one. And I

637
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: think that again, whatever the way you present yourself, and

638
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: by the way, when you present yourself like that, people

639
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: like myself are going to you know, think about you know,

640
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: they're gonna think about these things when you do get

641
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: a high profile job.

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Speaker 3: Whatever Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Radio erit towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tirec

644
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Speaker 2: dot Com studios.

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Speaker 1: It is.

646
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Speaker 2: Even though it's late June, a busy night across the

647
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Speaker 2: world of sports. Let's get to the news desk to Seger, tell.

648
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Speaker 1: Us what you try.

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Speaker 7: Well, we just had the finish of game one of

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Speaker 7: the College World Series. Texas A and M beat Number

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Speaker 7: one Tennessee nine to five. Game two of the best

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Speaker 7: of three is tomorrow at Dodger Stadium, LA, beating the

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Speaker 7: Angels seven to one. In the bottom of the sixth inning,

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Speaker 7: sho Heo Tani with a two run homer his twenty third. Guys,

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Speaker 7: there's such a thing in baseball now as the stat

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Speaker 7: cast era, when we got all these stats such as

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Speaker 7: how long did the home run fly? This is all

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Speaker 7: in the past decade. So at Dodger Stadium in the

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Speaker 7: past decade, nobody has more than one home run hit

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Speaker 7: there that went over four hundred and fifty feet until

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Speaker 7: this week, because in one week sho Hoo Toani's.

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Speaker 8: Hit three of those.

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Speaker 7: At Dodger Stadium tonight his long ball was long four

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Speaker 7: hundred and fifty nine feet the estimate last night he

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Speaker 7: hit went out four hundred and fifty five feet last

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Speaker 7: weekend in LA four hundred and fifty one feet. His

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Speaker 7: Dodgers lead seven to one bottom of the six The

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Speaker 7: other game that's going is in Colorado, Nationals back in

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Speaker 7: the lead seven to six over the Rockies in the

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Speaker 7: bottom of the eighth inning. Everything else final Houston won

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Speaker 7: its fourth in a row, beating Baltimore five to one.

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Speaker 7: Padres won their fourth in a row six ' four

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Speaker 7: over Milwaukee was six nothing. In the ninth the Yankees

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Speaker 7: defeated Atlanta eight to three. Aaron Judge with his twenty

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Speaker 7: eighth homer. He has seven seventy RBIs. We are in

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Speaker 7: June still three RBIs for him. Tonight, Cleveland won its

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Speaker 7: fourth straight game six ' three over Toronto. The Blue

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Speaker 7: Jays have dropped five in a row. Texas shut out

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Speaker 7: Kansas City six nothing, and pitcher Max Schurzer of the

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Speaker 7: Rangers will make his season debut tomorrow. Philadelphia got another

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Speaker 7: win from Zach Wheeler. He's eight and four ERA two

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Speaker 7: point eight four. Philly's destroyed Arizona today twelve to one,

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Speaker 7: and on FS one, the Cubs beat the Mets eight

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Speaker 7: to one. Soccer on FS one Tonight, Mexico in Houston

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Speaker 7: defeated Jamaica one nothing, and their opener of the Copa

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Speaker 7: America tournament. Venezuela came back to beat Ecuador at the

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Speaker 7: forty nine Ers Stadium today two to one, and the

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Speaker 7: Americans will open their tournament play hosting Bolivia in Arlington.

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Speaker 7: Texas on Fox TV tomorrow at the Euro Soccer Tournament

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Speaker 7: Belgium and Portugal. With wins today three WNBA games victories

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Speaker 7: for Minnesota, Washington, and New York, which is fourteen and three.

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Speaker 7: The Liberty defeated LA ninety eight to eighty eight Brianna

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Speaker 7: Stewart thirty three points. Christopher Bell won NASCAR's Infinity Race

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Speaker 7: at New Hampshire. Rain canceled qualifying for tomorrow's Cup Series event.

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Speaker 7: Chase Elliott will start from the Poll Stanley Cup Game

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Speaker 7: seven is Monday, Edmonton at Florida. Edmonton's penalty kill has

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Speaker 7: been so great over the last sixteen playoff games. In

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Speaker 7: the Final, they've killed off eighteen of nineteen penalties. And

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Speaker 7: you go back even further, the Oilers have killed forty

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Speaker 7: six of their last forty seven penalties. They've allowed one

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Speaker 7: power play goal in that whole stretch while scoring three

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Speaker 7: short handed goals. This is a team that fired its

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Speaker 7: coach early in the season, was down three games to

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Speaker 7: none in the final, and has forced a Game seven

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Speaker 7: on the road at Florida on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve de Seger.

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Speaker 2: That is a perfect segue. When we come back. Don't

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Speaker 2: talk very much hockey, but we do have a game seven,

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Speaker 2: we do have history, and I just want j Mart's

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Speaker 2: take on if Edmonton's gonna pull off the shocker in Florida.

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Speaker 2: That's next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio eron Torres, Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Tireck dot Com series. Jason, I do want a

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Speaker 2: quick hockey thing, but I actually have a quick question

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Speaker 2: for you, and it's still a redick thing and we

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Speaker 2: can move off of it. I don't want to pitch time.

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Speaker 2: I'll say about this, do you think it's a mistake?

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Speaker 2: And I'm not here to criticize any and this is serious.

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Speaker 2: After last segment, we had a little fun, but I'm

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Speaker 2: not here to criticize any one man's decision. But you know,

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Speaker 2: if he is, and he is, whether I personally like him,

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Speaker 2: don't like him, whatever, he is deemed to be like

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Speaker 2: an up and coming, like star coach in the making,

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Speaker 2: like he interviewed it was Charlotte. There was clearly some

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Speaker 2: level of interest from Detroit. And I do sit there

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Speaker 2: and say, like kind of where we left off last

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Speaker 2: segment before we got to disager.

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Speaker 3: Which is it's Lebron's team.

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Speaker 2: I know you're by the way, Lebron's had plenty of buddies.

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Speaker 2: Lebron turned his back on Dwayne Wade, Lebron turned his

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Speaker 2: back on whoever. And things are gonna get bad, and

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna be Lebron's fault. He's gonna be the

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Speaker 2: guy that when things go sideways. And listen, even if

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Speaker 2: he's the greatest coach ever, every NBA team has a

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Speaker 2: couple bad weeks during the course of the season. I

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Speaker 2: just you know, on the one hand, I get it,

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Speaker 2: it's the Lakers, it's Lebron. On the other it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, listen, Darvin Ham made the Western Conference finals

741
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Speaker 2: and got cand A year later, Frank Vogel made won

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Speaker 2: an NBA championship. He got canned two seasons later. I

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Speaker 2: just am curious, Like, you know, you're a rising star.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if this goes really sideways, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know if there was maybe a

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Speaker 2: better job that would have potentially opened up.

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Speaker 3: But I could be totally wrong as way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've joked at the worst job that you

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Speaker 1: can have as a coach is to be Lebron James's coach,

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Speaker 1: because we have a track record of that not working

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Speaker 1: out for a lot of those guys. Or I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Spolster. I think he's still maybe the best

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Speaker 1: coach in the league, and you know there have been

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Speaker 1: some otherwise. But the thing with the Reddick higher to me,

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Speaker 1: and I know what you're asking, and I kind of agree, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it could go south and it could harm his you know,

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Speaker 1: his future a little bit, bring him down a Pegger two.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not, though I don't know. The thing that would

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Speaker 1: concern me if I was a Lakers fan, and I

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Speaker 1: think even when I go to sleep at night, if

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Speaker 1: i'm JJ Reddick, it might gnaw at me a little bit,

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Speaker 1: or at least I would have to think about it.

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Speaker 1: Is Lebron James gonna listen to me? Because one, he

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Speaker 1: hasn't done that very much in his career. In second,

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Speaker 1: you guys are podcast hosts together, like you're almost too

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Speaker 1: close to him and your contemporary It's like he's still

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Speaker 1: playing and you're not. But you've played against him and

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Speaker 1: your career. Now, I know that that's not Jermaine to him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jason Kids played against some of the guys

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Speaker 1: in the league that he's coaching against them and things

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Speaker 1: of that nature. But Lebron James, you guys are boys.

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Speaker 1: So you're telling me that you're gonna tell him, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna actually like go toe to toe and force your

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Speaker 1: way on Lebron And he's not going to stand there

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Speaker 1: and just be like JJ, man, I hear what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go do it this way. That's That's

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Speaker 1: the thing that I want to see how that how

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Speaker 1: and if that plays out in JJ Reddick's favor, because

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Speaker 1: I am skeptical that Lebron James is gonna listen to

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Speaker 1: the guy that he was hosting a podcast with as

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Speaker 1: his head coach, because I wouldn't you know, you've always

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Speaker 1: heard that, you know, Aaron Rodgers. The problem for the

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00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: problem for Aaron Rodgers with a lot of coaches is

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Speaker 1: he thinks he's smarter than they are, and in most

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Speaker 1: cases he was right. Lebron James has an incredible basketball

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Speaker 1: like you. And Reddick's a smart guy too, in a

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Speaker 1: smart basket ball guy. And I think that's well known.

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Speaker 1: But is Lebron James gonna think JJ Reddick is smarter

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Speaker 1: than him when it comes to basketball. I have my doubts.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's exactly what my thought is, is that

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Speaker 2: you may be smart. But look, I don't think Lebron.

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Speaker 2: Lebron thought he was smarter than Eric Spolster, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, really, if you think about it, the only

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Speaker 2: coach that's ever really gotten him to buy in really

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Speaker 2: is Coach k I mean, Spolstra did, but it was

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Speaker 2: only after Lebron threw a fit and tried to go

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Speaker 2: to pat Riley and get him fired.

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Speaker 3: And so when he had no choice, he kind of

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Speaker 3: bought in really quickly. Get Jason.

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Speaker 2: As the Sager told us a minute ago, Game seven,

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Speaker 2: NHL Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 3: Finals, I'll tell you I was kind of locked in.

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Speaker 3: Last night.

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Speaker 2: Edmonton wins Game six. Obviously they were trailing three. It's

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Speaker 2: now three to three. Heading back to Florida on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Are you into the hockey? Have you enjoyed it?

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Speaker 3: Are you going? Are you planning on watching Game seven

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Speaker 3: on Monday night?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm gonna watch it. I mean I used to

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Speaker 1: be and I talked to Arnie about this when you

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Speaker 1: were off. I used to be a huge hockey fan.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big time Pittsburgh Penguins fan, and it's just

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Speaker 1: kind of dropped off and I don't know what really

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Speaker 1: caused it. The game is still fun to watch, and

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Speaker 1: in this moment, I hope a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: gonna watch this. This is fascinating for some since what

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Speaker 1: nineteen forty five that you might have a team come

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Speaker 1: back from three to zero and win the Stanley Cup

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Speaker 1: and it's a possibility for a Canadian team to win

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Speaker 1: for the first time in ages and it's Connor McDavid,

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Speaker 1: one of your most marketable stars. I mean, you have

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Speaker 1: everything going and still what's fascinating to me is, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the better story is my Is it

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Speaker 1: better to come back from three to zho and win

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Speaker 1: or is it more captivating down the road the thirty

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Speaker 1: for thirty that you could do on this if you

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Speaker 1: come all the way to tie it and then still lose,

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Speaker 1: like if you go if you come down from three

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Speaker 1: to zho to tie it and then somehow with all

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Speaker 1: the momentum against them, the Florida Panthers win. That's that

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Speaker 1: to me is maybe the more fascinating possible outcome.

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Speaker 3: Well, it will be interesting, it will be fascinating. Florida.

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Speaker 2: I'm far from a hockey expert, but they've certainly been tight,

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Speaker 2: and last night they just looked very tight. Emmonton up

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Speaker 2: two to nothing after the first period. It was all

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Speaker 2: downhill for Florida from there. Fox Sports Radio Ara Torris,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios,

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Speaker 2: will come back new NBA champion Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 3: What's it mean? Plus Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Sunday for the East Coast, Saturday for everybody else. And

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Speaker 2: we're reacting to a busy couple days and frankly a

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Speaker 2: busy week in sports. If you missed out one, we

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00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: talked a lot about the big news. JJ Reddick is

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Speaker 2: officially the Los Angeles Lakers head coach.

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Speaker 3: Well, we will revisit that.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me in just a moment, but there was I

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Speaker 2: guess you would say something else pretty big, Jason, and

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Speaker 2: that is that. Oh, by the way, we have ourselves

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Speaker 2: a new NBA champion. So congrats to the Boston Celtics.

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00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: They were the best team in the NBA during the

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Speaker 2: regular season, blew through the NBA playoffs in the Eastern Conference,

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Speaker 2: and we kind of sat there and said, we all did,

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Speaker 2: or at least I did.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Ow good are they really?

862
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Speaker 2: You know, they had to beat a bad Miami Heat

863
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 2: team in round one without Jimmy Butler. Round two, Donovan

864
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: Mitchell's a little bit banged up. Round three, the Eastern

865
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: Conference finals, the Pacers as a sixth seed, Are you

866
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: kidding me?

867
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: Bring it up?

868
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: Because they did the same thing to the Dallas Mavericks

869
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: that they did to pretty much everybody throughout the playoffs,

870
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: dominant run. They win in five, as we set a

871
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: minute ago, final score game five one, one, six eighty eight.

872
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: I got a lot of thoughts on this, Jason. You know,

873
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: it's been talked about. We know Game five was was

874
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: earlier this week, it was a while ago at this point,

875
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: but your reactions as you watched the confetti fall as

876
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics win yet another NBA championship.

877
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: This was the team that was supposed to win. It

878
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: should have won it and won it. I am glad

879
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: we got the Eastern Conference Finals because the Pacers gave

880
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: him a run for their money and had an opportunity

881
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: to win at least two of the games early. That

882
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: may have changed the way that series played out. But Boston,

883
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: as most good teams do, as most champions do, runs

884
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: into some degree of adversity and has to escape a

885
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: few times. And that's exactly what they did. And then

886
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: they got into the finals, especially after the break, and

887
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: their brand of basketball was not harmed by the time

888
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: off and whatever lightning the MAVs had captured was gone.

889
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: It just wasn't the same team. Luca even it took

890
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: him a little bit of time, and I know he

891
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: was banged up, no question about that, But at that

892
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: point in the season, well really, at any point, nobody

893
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: that's playing is going to care about that, like that's

894
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: just a that's a problem that you're going to have

895
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: to deal with. He did play through it, clearly he

896
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: was hurt, but this was a team that was loaded,

897
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: that made good decisions in the offseason, and this was

898
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: exactly where they should have found themselves in that Eastern Conference.

899
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: Even without those injuries. It it would have made it

900
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: a tougher path for them, but they still should have

901
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: ended up here. So I think my initial takeaway is

902
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: kind of boring, but it's just, yeah, that was the

903
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: best team in the NBA and that's exactly the way

904
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: this should have ended, and it would have been a disappointment,

905
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: I think to a lot of people in NBA circles,

906
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: and certainly to Celtics fans, if this isn't how it ended.

907
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: I know that sounds crazy that if you don't win

908
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 1: a championship it's a disappointment, but I believe that's how

909
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: it was framed all year.

910
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.

911
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: So first of all, I agree, and I remember us

912
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: talking as the playoff began. This felt like kind of

913
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: put up for shut up time for the Boston Celtics, Like,

914
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 2: if you don't do this this year with the Brown

915
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: Tatum thing. I mean, this was year seven, year six,

916
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: whatever it is, It's like, it really might be time

917
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: to have a serious conversation. But I also bring it

918
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: up because my first real takeaway is we just spent

919
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: all this time talking about JJ Reddick taking the Lakers job,

920
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: and you know, do you want to coach Lebron because

921
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: the second things go wrong he wants to blow things up.

922
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: And the Celtics are kind of the exact opposite of it.

923
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: And I think it's so cool, and I think it's

924
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: interesting in how we consume the NBA. We get so

925
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: caught up in Dame Lillard to the Milwaukee Bucks. We

926
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: spent how many weeks did we spend talking about Dame

927
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: Lillard demands a trade last year? Where's it going to be?

928
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. Isn't that ended up with

929
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: them losing in the first round. I know Joanni's got hurt, whatever,

930
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: but the point remains, it wasn't a very successful postseason.

931
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: Bradley beal, Oh my goodness, the new Big three in Phoenix.

932
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: Whatever falls apart, they lose in the first round, they

933
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: fire rank Frank vocal. I bring it up because the

934
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: Celtics they're the exact opposite. There was talk like Joe.

935
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: Mizzoula, I don't know. I mean, he only got the.

936
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: Job because he Mayadoka got into such some trouble off

937
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: the corner, got fired, he's not qualified. You can't bring

938
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: it back. You're gonna waste a year. Brown and Tatum's prime.

939
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: Also the Brown and Tatum thing. You gotta get rid

940
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: of one of them. They'll never work together. There's the

941
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum is he and Alpha is he a superstar?

942
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 2: And that is kind of my first big takeaway. Jason

943
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: and we can get into some other ones, but I

944
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: think we spend so much time in the NBA talking

945
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: about these cool fantasy basketball trades and moves and this

946
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: and that, and James Harden's going here, Kyrie is going.

947
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 3: There, and I guess Kyrie's a bad example because they

948
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 3: made the finals.

949
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: But the point I'm trying to make is that I

950
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: think there's something to stability. There's something to that old

951
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: school kind of sticking with a core, maybe longer than

952
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: the public thinks that you should, and being rewarded with

953
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: the success the championship brought them this year. In Boss, Yeah,

954
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's right. I think that you.

955
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: Usually do yourself favors if you get into spots where

956
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: you can tweak rather than complete overhaul. Like it doesn't

957
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: mean that you can't, you know, burn the thing down

958
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: or tear it down to the studs and build it

959
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: back up. But that's when it's completely bottomed out. I

960
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: do think we are in an impatient age, and I

961
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: mean in everything, not just in sports, but I mean

962
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: I think about how angry I get during two minutes

963
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: of commercials now compared to commercials back when I was

964
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: a kid, or any number of other things fast food

965
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: and instant stuff being brought to your door. If Amazon

966
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: can't get it here within two days, I'm just like, well,

967
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: what's the point yep. Back in the day, I used

968
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: to have to send off something in four to six

969
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: weeks later I would get it. So things have changed.

970
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: I think we live in more of an instant gratification

971
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: of society, and it has also, I think led to

972
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: a lot of quick triggers. When you it's just a

973
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: different mentality and you think about like the Cleveland Browns

974
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: just an example they did. They were just a turnstile

975
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: for coaches, like a year after year after year, there'd

976
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: be somebody new. Now they've stuck with Stefanski for a

977
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: while and they've actually found a little bit of success.

978
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 1: You're right, they easily could have moved on from Missoula.

979
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: They easily could have traded Jalen Brown, because numbskulls like

980
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: me said, that's exactly what they should have done. They

981
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: stuck by it, They stayed the course. They recognized that

982
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: they were not fundamentally flawed to where they couldn't win.

983
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: They just didn't finish, and they were going to take

984
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: another crack at it, but they were going to make

985
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: a couple of moves. They were going to move Marcus Smart,

986
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: as popular as he was, and they were going to

987
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: bring in dreu Holiday, and they were going to see

988
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: what they could get out of Kris steps Porzingis. So

989
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: they move him into it and everything works and they

990
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: end up winning the championship. And you're right. We spent

991
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: a lot of time on Bradley Beal to Phoenix and

992
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: Dame Lillards, as you mentioned, And I think one of

993
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: the reasons why is because that stuff is right for

994
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: tabloid and content. Like it's just the offseason in the

995
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: NBA just gets so interesting to watch. And I think

996
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: that ESPN and Fox and all the broadcast partners that

997
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: anybody has anything to do with the NBA does a

998
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: great job at pumping the league before the games are played,

999
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: and then during the regular season for about six months,

1000
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: it's not all that interesting, and then it gets interesting

1001
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: again in April, and then it gets interesting again until

1002
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: you get back to October when the game start, and

1003
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: then we start to back off again and say, ah,

1004
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: you know, whatever moves that we were excited about back

1005
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: in July or August, those are going to be huge

1006
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: come April, and that ends up being what it is

1007
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: the Celtics. One of the reasons why I think the

1008
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: narratives surrounding the Celtics was what it was all year

1009
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: is because they were so boring because they didn't do

1010
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: anything that exciting exactly. They just cut the grass a

1011
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: little bit shorter, but they didn't completely take the lawn out.

1012
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: They didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, if

1013
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: you want to use that old cliche. Just kind of

1014
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: tweaked the edges. And they brought in a winner like

1015
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: Drew Holliday, but they didn't get rid of the core

1016
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 1: that put him there, because they felt like that Corps

1017
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: just needed a little bit better complementarians, and so they

1018
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: brought in the right guys and now they're champions.

1019
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: It is kind of Wild.

1020
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: We spend so much time talking about the Dame Lillard

1021
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: part of the Drew Holiday trade.

1022
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: Drew Holliday obviously had a much bigger impact. Let me

1023
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: ask you this.

1024
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: You know, producer Shay mentioned this to us before the

1025
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: show of like who is in best position? It's really

1026
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: a two part question in my opinion, which is, you know,

1027
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: I think the conversation everybody's having this week is like,

1028
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: or is Boston gonna be a dynasty? Or is this

1029
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: a one off whatever? Blah blah blah. I bring it

1030
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: up because I'm more inclined to say that it actually

1031
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: might be a dynasty because I don't see that team

1032
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: emerging in the East. I mean, Philly, like, you got

1033
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: to show me something when it matters, Joel Embiid, I'm sorry,

1034
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 2: It's the truth.

1035
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 3: Milwaukee.

1036
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 2: You know, whatever's going on there, whether it's Giannis trying

1037
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: to pull strings or Doc Rivers is that bad or

1038
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 2: Dame isn't the player? That's been weird for like two

1039
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: two and a half years now, and I think it

1040
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: got exposed big time without Drew Holliday. The Knicks, Like

1041
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: the Knicks are a great story, but I mean as

1042
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: good as Jalen Jalen Brunson is excuse me? Is he

1043
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 2: really that guy that's gonna get you over the hump

1044
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: against the team like Boston with the way that they play.

1045
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 2: I just bring it up because I don't know about

1046
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: the dynasty thing, but I don't see that team in

1047
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: the East that's ready to dethrone them anytime soon. And

1048
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: so if you know, there's no reason I don't think

1049
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: they're back in the finals two out of the next

1050
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: three years, three out of the next four years, three

1051
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 2: out of the next five years, whatever, and maybe potentially

1052
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: win another one or two of these things, because I

1053
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: just I think the path through the East, at least

1054
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 2: as I see it right now, remains pretty.

1055
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: Easy, and I think that's certainly valid.

1056
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: I think that I hate to say it, and I

1057
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: hope to be wrong, but I just don't trust and

1058
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: then Beat's going to be healthy enough for Philly to

1059
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 1: be that team. They just he hasn't been so far,

1060
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 1: and even like he came back and he tried and

1061
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: all credit to that, but then it didn't work out.

1062
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: And I don't think that they're coming back stronger this

1063
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: coming year from that, and I just don't trust his

1064
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: body The Knicks and the Pacers are two teams that

1065
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: I like a lot that I think need more than

1066
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: they have. I think if I'm the Knicks, I just

1067
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: go in on another guy because I think Jalen Brunson

1068
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: can be part of that. He can be a Jalen Brown,

1069
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: he could be a a Tatum, He could be one

1070
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: of those guys, but he needs another one. And look,

1071
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: that's true for virtually everybody in the league. Very few

1072
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: teams in recent memory in the NBA are one guy

1073
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: and that's like it was just one alpha dog and

1074
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Speaker 1: nobody else. And then they won a championship like Dirk

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Speaker 1: did it. Like you can't point to a lot of

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00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: other like just total studs on that team. But even

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00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: they had some some solid guys and I think another

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00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer on that team. But I mean, Lebron

1079
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: never won it on his own. It was with Anthony Davis,

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00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: or it was with Kyrie Irving, or it was with

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh And that's the way it was.

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Speaker 1: You had three in Boston. Now you had two in

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00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: Boston this time around. I think Jayleen Brunson absolutely could

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00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: be part of one two punch that wins a championship,

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00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: and I like the way the Knicks played, and I

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00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: like their role players. I like what they could do

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00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: from the three, but they need somebody else. I don't

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00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: know who that guy is. I don't know who the

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00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: perfect guy is for them, but they need to find

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00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: some compliment to Jalen Brunson and then we can have

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00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: that conversation. And then Indiana showed me a lot. I

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00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: don't know that they're going to dethrone Boston, but boy,

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00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: they gave him all they wanted, and I don't think

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00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: Caliburton's gonna get worse. They just paid Siakam. I don't

1095
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: know if that was the right move, but I still

1096
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: think they need a little bit more. But those are

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Speaker 1: my two, and I thought they played a great series

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Speaker 1: against one another. I'm not looking at the Indianas and

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00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 1: the Cleveland's. I really like Donovan Mitchell. Maybe they're gonna

1100
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: trade Darius Garland and do something else there because those

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00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: two guys don't really mesh well. But I don't look

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Speaker 1: at anybody else and feel like they're right there on

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00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: the cusp of taking a team like Boston. I like

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00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: some of the youth on the East Side. I just

1105
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: don't think anybody's ready to compete outside of I do

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00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: really like New York, and I take Indiana's the other one.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torris, Jason Martin. We

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Speaker 2: are broadcasting live from the tireck dot Com studios, and

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00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: we should mention shortly after the show our podcast will

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Speaker 2: To search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

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Speaker 2: and you'll see this show posted right after we get

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Speaker 2: off air. When we come back, it is Sunday on

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Speaker 2: the East Coast, which means we got another iteration of

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Speaker 2: what might be the best rivalry in sports right now,

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark Angelry Sunday. We'll discuss that next and also

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00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: the chaos of last week's matchup. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Tors Jason mart

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00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. Tell you

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Speaker 2: what since we got the the Sager segment coming up

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Speaker 2: here in about twenty minutes to say, you'll give us

1126
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: his extended update, saga, why don't you take the floor,

1127
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 2: give us your update right now, and of course we'll

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Speaker 2: hear from you in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 7: Well, everything is now final. The game at Dodgers Stadium

1130
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 7: is over, seven to two. The Dodgers beat the Angels.

1131
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 7: Winning pitcher Tyler glassnow La Native, was great again. Seven innings,

1132
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 7: just seventy four pitches, one earned run, allowed, ten strikeouts,

1133
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 7: no walk show Hey Otani with a two run homer,

1134
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Speaker 7: his twenty third. The Yankees beat Atlanta eight three, Aaron

1135
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 7: Judges twenty eighth home run, Colorado eight seven over Washington.

1136
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Speaker 7: You've got to hear how it ended. The Rockies had

1137
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 7: tied it up seven to seven and had bases loaded

1138
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 7: three to two count bottom of the ninth.

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Speaker 1: Time violation on pitchcock violation, Don Finnigan, and that's.

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Speaker 8: The game, Rockies radio, Yeah, that's how it ended. Lost

1141
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 8: to the cl the Nationals.

1142
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 7: Kyle finn again, a guy who has twenty one saves

1143
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 7: this year. But pitchclock violation on a full count. It

1144
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 7: had been an o two count. San Diego won its

1145
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 7: four straight game. Cleveland won its fourth in a row.

1146
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 7: Houston won its fourth in a row. Seattle won nine

1147
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 7: nothing at Miami, Boston and Minnesota with victories, and Philly

1148
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 7: beat Arizona twelve to one. The College World Series Finals

1149
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 7: started tonight. Texas A and M ranked fourth, beat number

1150
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Speaker 7: one Tennessee nine to five. Aggie's led seven to one

1151
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Speaker 7: in the third inning. This begins a best of three.

1152
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Speaker 7: Game two is tomorrow. Rain canceled qualifying for tomorrow's Cup

1153
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 7: Series event. Chase Elliott will start from the poll. Christopher

1154
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 7: Bell won NASCAR's Infinity Race at New Hampshire. Copa America

1155
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Speaker 7: is on FS one. Two games tonight, Mexico in Houston

1156
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Speaker 7: defeated Jamaica won nothing. Venezuela at the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 7: Stadium Today came back to beat Ecuador two to one,

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Speaker 7: two second half goals. Ecuador after a red card, played

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Speaker 7: with ten men not eleven for most of the match.

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Speaker 7: The tournament started Thursday Nightina defeated Canada in front of

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Speaker 7: a very full house in Atlanta, over a million viewers

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Speaker 7: on FS one. For that the tournament is being held

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Speaker 7: in the US, not in South America as it normally is,

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Speaker 7: so they've invited some of the North American teams to join.

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Speaker 7: Games are on Fox and FS one, including the US

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Speaker 7: opener on Fox TV. Tomorrow, the American men will host

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Speaker 7: Bolivia from Arlington, Texas. Fox is also carrying the Euro

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Speaker 7: Soccer Tournament. Germany is hosting Switzerland three pm Eastern Tomorrow

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Speaker 7: as part of the Euro coverage. That final, by the way,

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Speaker 7: will be next month in Berlin. Germany's look great so far,

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Speaker 7: so his Spain, Belgium, and Portugal each one today Chechia,

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Speaker 7: Chechia as they're known now, excuse me, ty Georgia one

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Speaker 7: to one and the checks out shot him twenty seven

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Speaker 7: to five in the game. Georgia's only gold came out

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Speaker 7: a penalty kick at the end of the first half.

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Speaker 7: And three WNBA games. New York Liberty fourteen and three

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Speaker 7: defeated La ninety eight to eighty eight. Brianna Stewart thirty

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Speaker 7: three points in the first half. She had twenty four points,

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Speaker 7: five assists and five blocks. That is a first in

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Speaker 7: WNBA history. Four and a half Minnesota beat Phoenix seventy

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Speaker 7: three sixty Washington which is two and thirteen beat Dallas

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Speaker 7: ninety seven sixty nine.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sager. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio. Aaron Torres. Jason Martin broadcasting live

1185
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: from the Tireck dot Com studios. It is past midnight Eastern,

1186
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Speaker 2: which means it's Sunday on the East Coast, and that

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00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: means that, in a perfect transition from de Sager, we

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00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: got ourselves. Jason, I'll say this, man. You know, I

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00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: was questioning of would interest in Caitlin Clark and even

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Speaker 2: Angel reason we're gonna talk about both of them in

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Speaker 2: a minute, Would it translate once they left college?

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00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I think, as we discussed last week, part of it is,

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Speaker 2: of course the discourse around the two of them, and

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Speaker 2: certainly Kitlyn Clark, certainly unfortunately, because I think she's a

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00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: great player and it doesn't have to be there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of conversation that comes up because of her race,

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Speaker 2: because of her sexuality, whatever. But I bring it up

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Speaker 2: because tomorrow, you know, Sunday, depending on where you are,

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Speaker 2: maybe today four pm Eastern Indiana at Chicago.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into what happened last week. But listen, I'm

1202
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 3: not gonna lie.

1203
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna oversell it, but I'm sort

1204
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: of intrigued by what's gonna happen in this game after

1205
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: last week and whether they want to admit it or not. Certainly,

1206
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: I don't think Kaitlyn Clark cares, but Angel Reese clearly

1207
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: cares about it Kaitlyn Clark, and this seems to be

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Speaker 2: becoming a real rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Jason. Yeah, she has to care about Kaitlyn Clark because

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00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: she's irrelevant. I know the second she's not doing something

1211
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: surrounding Kaitlin Clark. We wouldn't know who she was in

1212
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: college if not for Kaitlin Clark, and we certainly wouldn't

1213
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Speaker 1: know anything about her now. She can say whatever she wants,

1214
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Speaker 1: but something is going to happen to this game, probably

1215
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: because Angel rees needs it to. Like, let's just be

1216
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 1: as simple as that. Caitlin Clark will sell out whether

1217
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Speaker 1: Angel Reese is there or not. Angel Reese, like, you're right,

1218
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Speaker 1: there is certainly intrigues surrounding this because the chances of

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Speaker 1: something happening are quite high. I saw Angel Reese this

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Speaker 1: week compared to Dylan Brooks because the way that she

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Speaker 1: goes about what she does, like she's not looked at

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Speaker 1: in like the classification of somebody that's more respected that

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00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: was also kind of an enforcer player, but instead somebody

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00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: that's an instigator. I don't know that that's fully fair,

1225
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Speaker 1: but I look at all of it, and I have

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Speaker 1: several takes about all of it. But I know we

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Speaker 1: have some audio that we want to play and really

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Speaker 1: kind of set all this up. But Angel Reese's entire

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00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: career is basically predicated, and certainly whatever she's going to

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Speaker 1: do in the future, the relevance that she has and

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Speaker 1: the eyeballs and the attention are all going to come

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Speaker 1: from what she does and or says about Caitlyn Clark

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Speaker 1: and the person who knows that most of all is her,

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Speaker 1: And so she's gonna drift on Caitlin right through the

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Speaker 1: checkered flag.

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Speaker 2: Well, and so you know, I probably should have done

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Speaker 2: a better job myself of setting up They play on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: but of course that's a week after what was certainly

1239
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Speaker 2: a very interesting game. We know what happened Indiana Fever win.

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Speaker 2: There is a hard file from Angel Reese. You know,

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Speaker 2: there was some discourse on social media about how hard

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Speaker 2: of a foul was it. Was it intentional? Should she

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Speaker 2: be should she have been ejected? Should she be suspended?

1244
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Speaker 2: I thought it was a hard foul. I thought it

1245
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: was mostly a basketball play. But why it was interesting

1246
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 2: was what Caitlyn Clark had to say after the game.

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Speaker 2: Mary Mack play the quick SoundBite of Angel Reese after

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Speaker 2: last week's game.

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Speaker 5: I think we went up really strong a lot of times,

1250
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Speaker 5: and we didn't get a lot of calls.

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Speaker 3: And going back at looking at the film, I've seen

1252
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 3: a lot of calls that weren't made. I guess some

1253
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 3: people got a special whistle.

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Speaker 2: That was Angel Reese saying some people get a special whistle.

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Speaker 2: I mean, only Angel Reese knows what she was saying,

1256
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Speaker 2: but it sure does like she's talking about Kaitlyn Clark,

1257
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Speaker 2: who she nearly took her head off.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: I thought the discourse around that specific play was a

1260
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: little bit much. I don't think she should have been suspended.

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Speaker 2: I don't think she should have been ejected. But it

1262
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: is kind of funny that Angel Reese calls herself it

1263
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: basically once again Angel Reese making herself the victim, which

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01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: I think is interesting in its own right. But Angel

1265
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: Reese saying that Caitlin Clark is getting an unfair whistle

1266
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: after Angel Reese threw it to the ground with that

1267
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Speaker 2: hard fil.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because if she doesn't say that, then we're not

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01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: talking about it now, and we haven't talked about it

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Speaker 1: all week long. Is she trying to insinuate that wasn't

1271
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: a foul. I mean that was a foul. It wasn't

1272
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Speaker 1: a special whistle you may have. And I remember her saying,

1273
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, I was going for the ball. Yeah, but

1274
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: you didn't hit the ball. You hit her. You're right,

1275
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: like you hit her head like, I don't care what

1276
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: you were going for. I imagine a lot of people to

1277
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: commit fouls were going for the ball and ended up

1278
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: getting the wrist or the elbow or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Do I think you were trying to injure Kaitlyn Clark? No?

1280
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: Do I think that was a hard foul? Yes, I

1281
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: agree with you shouldn't have been injected. I don't think

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01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: it needed to have the level of discussion that it did.

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Speaker 1: The reason that it did is because it's Angel Reese

1284
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: and it's Kaitlyn Clark, and this is what you do.

1285
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: And if you're an in and if you are you know,

1286
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: in media, then you're going to make this something as well,

1287
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: because there is intrigue and there's a tabloidish kind of

1288
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: feel to all of this. But I just I look

1289
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: at the whole thing. And I'm going to say something

1290
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: that I was thinking during a commercial breaks, like how

1291
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: do I want to say this? How careful do I

1292
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: want to be when I say this? And I even

1293
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: did a little bit of research to kind of try

1294
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: to back it up a little bit. The Kaitlin Clark

1295
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: problem for the w NBA players, it's such an exposing

1296
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: thing to their league and to their ideology. And this

1297
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: is what I mean. Caitlyn Clark is white, and there

1298
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: have been a lot of great white players in the WNBA.

1299
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: We know this throughout time. She's also heterosexual, and there

1300
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: have been some of those, but in twenty twenty four,

1301
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: the safest thing that you can be in the WNBA

1302
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: is black and gay. And if you are Caitlyn Clark

1303
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: and you're white, that's okay because I mean you think

1304
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: of you know, Super Herd or Brianna Stewart or whoever

1305
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: you want to talk about. And there have been some

1306
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: great white players in the league, but a lot of

1307
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: them have also been gay, like Sue Brd. Caitlyn Clark

1308
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: comes out of Iowa, not Yukon, and she's white. Her

1309
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: faith has been out there. She is straight, even though

1310
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: it's not something that was talked about very much. As

1311
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, before I heard about it, I

1312
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: was just I just kind of figured, Okay, well, I

1313
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: don't know, it's not been a focal point. But the

1314
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: thing that irritates them and the reason why this has

1315
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: gone the way that it has, is because they can't

1316
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: stand the fact that she is those two things and

1317
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: is popular. Because this is not supposed to be for

1318
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: her and people like her. This is supposed to be

1319
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: for a different classification. This is supposed to be the

1320
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: opportunity to put that ideology out there, and Caitlin Clark

1321
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: is a gigantic threat to it because she steps in

1322
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: on day one and she's already arguably the most popular

1323
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: athlete they've ever had before she ever plays a game,

1324
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: and she's everything that they want to try and diminish,

1325
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: if that makes sense.

1326
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 2: One, she's unquestionably the most popular athlete that they've ever had.

1327
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: Or you know, if there's another one from the early days,

1328
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: I don't remember anyone being anywhere close to his popular.

1329
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Lobo is the only other one that I

1330
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: thought of, because it was so early, and Lobo was

1331
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: like one of the first women's basketball players that I

1332
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: knew of because I saw what she had done at

1333
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: Yukon and was old enough. I mean, yes, I remember

1334
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: like Cheryl Miller and Cheryl swoots to some of these people,

1335
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: but like Lobo was the one I remember coming out

1336
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: of college that kind of had that Latner feel. Yeah,

1337
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: so it was, but I still think Caitlin Clark's by

1338
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: far are the biggest athlete star that they've had.

1339
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's tough because and this goes to what

1340
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: we talked about when when Jamel Hill basically made the

1341
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: comment that you just insinuated, Jamel Hill said the same

1342
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 2: thing that you did three weeks ago. She said, you know,

1343
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: she's getting different coverage because of her sexuality, because of

1344
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: her race.

1345
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: I don't believe that.

1346
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: I just believe that people really enjoy watching her play basketball.

1347
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 2: I think the numbers that I will reflect that, and

1348
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: I you know, I it's it's got to be some layer.

1349
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 2: It's so complicated because I think it's a lot of

1350
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 2: what you said is that she doesn't fit the narratives.

1351
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: And it's like I have struggled and I've wrapped my

1352
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 2: head around why she is so direct. It's because it's crazy.

1353
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: If you watch what's going on. She's not liked by

1354
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: other teams. She's clearly not liked by some coaches. You know,

1355
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Links coach who's the Olympic team coach, was

1356
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: liking tweets about you know, she's not bigger than the league,

1357
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: and then she made her account private whatever. And so

1358
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 2: I've tried to figure out why it is, and I

1359
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 2: think it's it's it's obviously simple jealousy. Is it because

1360
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: of her sexuality? Is it because of a race that

1361
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: has a lot to do with it, but that irritates them.

1362
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm saying the reverse of what Jamel Hill say, Like

1363
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 2: the fact that she is getting coverage irritates them. It's

1364
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: less on it, it's more on their side. Like most

1365
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: of the people watching Kate and Clark are like, man,

1366
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that she's straight and white. Like, I

1367
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 2: don't think that that's part of it. I don't think

1368
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: that's why people are watching Kitlyn Clark.

1369
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: That's just an unfortunate byproduct for the w NBA players

1370
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: and that's created an added level of vitriol. Let me

1371
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: throw you a hypothetical question. I just want to get

1372
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: your initial thought to this. What is the narrative surrounding

1373
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: Kitlyn Clark, And how is she perceived if she happened

1374
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: to like women and not men by the w NBA

1375
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: players and the people in that league.

1376
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 3: Is she still as popular as she is now?

1377
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no no. Is is she perceived

1378
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: by her contemporaries? How is she perceived by other teammates, well,

1379
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: the team fans? Yes, yes, yes, everything's still the same. Yeah,

1380
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 1: the scenario would still be the same. Let's I don't

1381
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: know that it would be right. Maybe it would be

1382
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: because again, that wasn't a focal point of her college career.

1383
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about her sexuality. But if she were

1384
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: gay and not straight and she were doing the exact

1385
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: same thing, had the same college career, had all of

1386
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: those things, do we think that the same incidents and

1387
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: these same little comments and all the stuff that has

1388
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: come since she has gotten into the WNBA, do you

1389
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: think that that would have still been the same. The

1390
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: show has still been hated and targeted in some of

1391
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: those things.

1392
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 2: I will be blunt and I know where you're going

1393
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: with this, and I think I disagree because I think

1394
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: she would be justice hated if she was not heterosexual,

1395
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 2: Because I just think there's a level of hate with

1396
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 2: clearly how many people are interested and invested in what

1397
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 2: she is doing and just the interest that she has brought.

1398
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: Now again, now listen, I'll be honest, I don't think

1399
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 2: the sexual preference has very much to do with anything. Now,

1400
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 2: maybe in the league, whether people like her or not.

1401
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 2: That's that's my point. I'm talking about that, that's my priceed.

1402
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, how would she be seen by the

1403
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 2: other player. I'm asking you you think that she would

1404
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 2: be better received. I don't know that I have a

1405
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 2: strong opinion, but you think she would be better received

1406
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,520
Speaker 2: if she was outwardly a homosexual woman.

1407
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: More than being outward just just that it was known

1408
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: that way, that that was not something that could be

1409
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: talked about. On the other side, I would suggest to

1410
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: you that yes, it would be entirely different. And the

1411
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: reason why is because Caitlin Clark, being an ambassador as

1412
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: she is for women's basketball, she's got to be she's

1413
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: got to have the right opinions, she's got a cardif

1414
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: right place, and she's not in multiple categories. You can

1415
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: be one of those two things, but being white and

1416
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,560
Speaker 1: straight and being super popular can create a problem.

1417
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: Well, and that's where I think a lot of the

1418
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 2: frustration comes in. And we saw that last week when

1419
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: and we talked about this last week, like she basically

1420
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 2: refused to answer questions about is her name being weaponized

1421
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 2: and then she kind of dipped one toe in. I

1422
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: think that's where a lot of the frustration comes in.

1423
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 3: More than.

1424
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 2: More than her sexuality and even more than her race,

1425
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: it's that she's not willing to go where everybody else

1426
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 2: wants to go, which is that this is the w

1427
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,799
Speaker 2: we have the greatest product ever, the fact that nobody

1428
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: ever showed up before, Like she's just not willing to

1429
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: play the victim in any way, shape or form, even

1430
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: and I think this is the frustrating part too. Even

1431
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: when she gets her head knocked off by angel reaes Okay,

1432
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: it's a hard foul, but you know, you know, rather

1433
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: than going to the podium and saying something that they

1434
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 2: asked her, they were like, what did you make of

1435
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 2: that fole? She's like, my only focuses on making the

1436
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: free throws. I think that now is is a bigger

1437
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 2: thing that's frustrating people more than anything, is that she

1438
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 2: won't respond and that she just keeps turning the other

1439
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 2: cheek and you know.

1440
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 1: Well, that's right. I mean, she's given them nothing like

1441
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: she is. She is, and it's dropping hot coals on

1442
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: their heads basically because she's not because if she retaliated,

1443
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: they would use it all ye, and she knows it.

1444
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: She has to whether she wants to or not. And

1445
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: who knows, only she knows. She has to take the

1446
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: high road because it's the only way she can survive.

1447
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 1: As long as she takes the high road on everything,

1448
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: she's giving them nowhere to go every like they're the

1449
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 1: ones that are gonna look worse moment by moment. That's

1450
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: why she's getting the whole Well, she's being silent while

1451
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: all these people are doing it's not her fault, but

1452
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: she's supposed to be the one that's supposed to stand

1453
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: up and talk about what all these other people are

1454
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: randomly saying on Twitter to various players and all this

1455
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: because they're using her name. What a ridiculous standard that is.

1456
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,799
Speaker 1: But again, all of this that, even the angel ree stuff,

1457
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: it's all about just trying to bait her. I agree

1458
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: into creating a narrative that is otherwise not there. And

1459
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 1: I think that it's pretty clear.

1460
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 3: Well, and that's where I would agree with you.

1461
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 2: Whether the popularity would be, whether she would be better

1462
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 2: received if she was outwardly homosexual, whatever that part, I

1463
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: don't know, But I do think the point that you made,

1464
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 2: the point that I agree with one hundred percent, is

1465
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,520
Speaker 2: that there is a clear message that all of these coaches,

1466
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 2: it's not just players, these coaches, these I don't know

1467
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 2: about the administrators because the WNBA commissioner isn't hiding. I

1468
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 2: don't know this person even exists, but it's very clear

1469
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 2: that there's a message that that league wants delivered, which

1470
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: is we're here, We're great, We've always been great.

1471
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: If you weren't here, already, shame on you.

1472
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: And it's like, no, we weren't here because you were boring,

1473
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: You're not just focus.

1474
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: That's just like every time I see them, just like,

1475
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: keep on saying this all you want. But the reason

1476
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: no one was talking about your league is because there

1477
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 1: was nothing to talk about. Like whatever you want to

1478
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: however you want to drum that up. With all due respect,

1479
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: I understand that you're playing these games and that you're

1480
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: giving it your role, but look, movies come out that

1481
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: are terrible that people worked really hard on sure books

1482
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: come out that are terrible that spent you know, it

1483
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: took people three four years to write. Just because you

1484
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: put in a lot of work doesn't necessarily mean that

1485
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 1: it's good. Like an objective sense for me or subjective

1486
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: sense for me trying to find entertainment. These are different things.

1487
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: So the fact that your league hasn't been relevant up

1488
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: to this point, and we should have been on the

1489
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: train before, No, we shouldn't have because there was no

1490
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: train to get on. It wasn't interesting.

1491
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 2: Well, and one last thought on that, and you know,

1492
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: we got to get to the Seger. But one I

1493
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Speaker 2: agree with that part is it's clear there's a message

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01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: that the league wants delivered and Caitlyn Clark refuses to

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01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: deliver that message. Can I just say one last thing,

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Speaker 2: sort of Kaitlin Clark related sort or not? Can you

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01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 2: stop shoving Asia Wilson down my throat?

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Speaker 3: Seriously?

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Speaker 2: I get it, she's a great player. Not every great

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Speaker 2: player is interesting. That has nothing to do with race

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01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 2: or sexuality or whatever. Tim Duncan was less interesting than

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01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant. Tim Duncan was every bit statistically the player

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01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant was he wasn't one tenth beloved. Kareem abdul

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01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 2: Jabbar was wasn't one tenth as beloved as Magic Johnson,

1505
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 2: even though Kareem abdul Jabbar did everything better than Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 3: That is one. You know, there's a lot. I think

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01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 3: we got to the point.

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01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent on just the

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01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: broader Why why is there so much frustration with her?

1510
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: But I had to get that one off my chest.

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01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 2: Asia Wilson is a great player, seven twenty eight points

1512
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: and twelve boards per game this year. Just because you're

1513
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 2: good to your point about the league as a whole,

1514
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you're interesting. I'm sorry that Asia Wilson is

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01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 2: an interesting I'm sorry that Tim Duncan was less interesting

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01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: than Kobe Bryant.

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01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,560
Speaker 3: That's just the way the world is sometimes.

1518
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Ertorris Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

1519
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 2: tyreck dot Com studios, will come back to Saga with

1520
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 2: his extended update.

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01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 3: That's next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody.

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01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from

1523
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 2: the tyreck dot com studios. Love the Kyle Clark conversation.

1524
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: If you just missed it. Make sure to download the podcast.

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01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 3: Bluntly.

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01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: Don't think you're gonna hear that in many places in

1527
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 2: sports talk in general.

1528
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 3: But you know what else you don't hear nearly enough.

1529
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 2: Steve Desager extended update, My man, give us something good

1530
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 2: what we miss today.

1531
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: I think Arney might disagree, but we agree.

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01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 7: Game seven is what we've got coming up in sports

1533
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 7: late on me. I've got a stat for you in

1534
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 7: just a moment. But Monday, we've got Stanley Cup Game seven,

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01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 7: Edmonton at Florida. The Panthers have somehow lost three straight.

1536
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 7: They were not only up three games to none, but

1537
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 7: now they haven't even held a lead in any game

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01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 7: since then. In the past week plus, road teams have

1539
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 7: won each of the past three game sevens in the

1540
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 7: history of the Final. Before then, the home teams were

1541
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 7: dominant twelve and two in game sevens of a final.

1542
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 7: But five years ago, when Saint Louis won the Cup

1543
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,759
Speaker 7: for the first time, they won a Game seven at Boston.

1544
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,480
Speaker 7: Boston in twenty eleven won a Game seven at Vancouver

1545
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 7: in a shutout, and Pittsburgh in two thousand and nine

1546
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 7: won a Game seven at Detroit two to one.

1547
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 8: Now this is in.

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01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 7: Pro sports in North America. The first game seven in

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01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,879
Speaker 7: a championship round in five years since the twenty nineteen

1550
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 7: World Series. Notable because this is the longest stretch of

1551
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 7: our lifetimes. If you add up the major sports, this

1552
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 7: is thirteen straight championship rounds NHL, NBA, MLB without a

1553
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 7: single game seven in the final since the twenty nineteen

1554
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 7: World Series, longest stretch in fact, since the NBA was

1555
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 7: founded back in the nineteen forties. The previous long was

1556
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 7: nine straight combined finals without a game seven, and that

1557
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 7: occurred right about two thousand. So what we've got coming

1558
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 7: up Monday is can Florida actually win the Cup? They've

1559
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 7: still never won it. The franchise started in nineteen ninety three,

1560
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 7: lost the final in nineteen ninety six, lost the final

1561
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 7: last year. Edmonton's last Stanley Cup came in nineteen ninety.

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01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 7: The Ordlers these last three games, they've outscored Florida by

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01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 7: thirteen goals. That ties the best goal differential by any

1564
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 7: NHL team in the final over any three game span.

1565
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 7: The other team to do that was Gretzky's Edmonton team

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01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 7: nineteen eighty four. They were a plus thirteen over their

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01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 7: opponent last three games of the final that year. Here

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01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 7: we had Florida winning the series opener in a shutout

1569
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 7: and winning four to one in game number two, and

1570
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 7: everybody's talking up the goalie and they got the four

1571
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 7: to one lead before holding on. In Game three. It

1572
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 7: was three games to none. Last Saturday night we were

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01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 7: on after an eight to one Edmonton win, and they've

1574
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 7: just kept winning in games five and six since then.

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01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 7: So this had in the postseason. Remember, we had an

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01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 7: NBA Finals at three games to none, and we had

1577
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 7: a Stanley Cup Final at three games to none. This

1578
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 7: had been the first time since nineteen ninety six that

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01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 7: both of those sports finals had their teams leading three

1580
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 7: games to none. You'd have to go back to the

1581
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 7: Jordan Bulls and the Colorado Avalanche back in the nineties.

1582
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 7: But neither winds up in his suite and a sweep,

1583
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 7: and in fact, we get one that goes seven. Which

1584
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 7: is notable that the Edmonton Oilers are the team that's

1585
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 7: involved in this because they fired their coach early this year.

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01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 7: They had a record of three and ten at the time,

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01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,959
Speaker 7: and they're not only in the final, but after trailing

1588
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 7: three games to none in the series, they are this

1589
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 7: close to taking the cup. For those who didn't hear

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01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 7: the news yesterday, the LA Olympic organizers said they're twenty

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01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 7: twenty eight summer games will have the swimming competition in

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01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 7: the La Rams Football Stadium.

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Speaker 1: So cool.

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01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 3: I know they're doing the trials, yes now.

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01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 7: I had mentioned this last weekend on one of the shows,

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01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 7: that the Indianapolis Colts Stadium is being used for the

1597
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 7: Olympic swim trials that conclude this weekend.

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Speaker 3: They built a temporary.

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Speaker 8: Pool over the concrete floor.

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01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 7: They put a black curtain over the fifty yard line

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01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 7: and basically cut the building in half, and they use

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01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 7: half of it for the swim meet and have over

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01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 7: twenty thousand fans.

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01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 2: Two things, did you see? Softball will be played in

1605
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City? And how do we get Chris Plank on

1606
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 2: the freaking call?

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01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 1: Real?

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01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 3: Because that man deserves that role. Let me say that said.

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01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 7: That they're going to use where the Women's College World

1610
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 7: Series is in Oklahoma City for the Olympics off ball

1611
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty eight, because obviously that seat's ten twelve thousand,

1612
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 7: not the two thousand like UCLA or whatever out here. Also,

1613
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 7: canoe slalom in twenty twenty eight will be out there.

1614
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 7: The LA Clippers have an arena that opens next season

1615
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 7: in nearby Inglewood, but basically across the street from the

1616
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 7: Rams Stadium. The Clippers Arena is now going to host

1617
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 7: basketball for the Olympics in twenty twenty eight. Olympic gymnastics

1618
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,759
Speaker 7: will be at the Lakers Arena downtown. So with that swimming,

1619
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 7: original plan for Los Angeles in twenty twenty eight was

1620
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 7: to build an Olympic pool on top of the USC

1621
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 7: baseball field. Oh wow, because last time they had the

1622
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 7: Olympics in LA nineteen eighty four, they had it at

1623
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 7: USC's own swim stadium, but there are only five ten

1624
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 7: rows of seats. They had all these gold medal races

1625
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 7: in this tiny place. Now they're going to have it

1626
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 7: at the Rams Stadium in twenty twenty eight.

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01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 3: Amazing stuff to say, or save some of it.

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 2: We got one more update. You got as much time

1629
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 2: as you need there, because that's a lot of good stuff.

1630
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 2: Steve Disager, thank you very much. Fox Sports radio eritors

1631
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Tyrek dot Com studios,

1632
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 2: will come back discuss the story of the week in

1633
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: the NBA JJ Redick, what's X Fox Sports Radio. Welcome

1634
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:21,280
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1638
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1642
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 2: dot Com Studios. Jason Martin out in Nashville, jmar By

1643
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 2: the way, we are on up until two am Eastern Time.

1644
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1645
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Speaker 3: Let's get into it.

1646
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 2: Big story of the week besides the Celtics winning another

1647
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 2: champ is their greatest rival, AH not anywhere close to

1648
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 2: a championship, Jason JJ Reddick now officially the head coach

1649
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: of Lakers. You know you brought up this point before

1650
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 2: the show. I think it's a great one, and in

1651
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: O're one we did discuss just JJ, how is he

1652
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 2: going to be?

1653
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:16,839
Speaker 3: Is it gonna work? Whatever?

1654
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 2: You talk about the state of the two most glorious

1655
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: franchises in the history of the NBA. Boston Celtics not

1656
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 2: only coming off of a championship, but clearly well run.

1657
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 2: Brad Stevens wins the Executive of the Year. Young corp

1658
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 2: that was drafted developed together, you find the right pieces.

1659
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 2: Por zingis, Derek White, these other guys, Drew Holliday obviously

1660
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 2: the biggest one of all.

1661
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 3: So well run.

1662
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 2: Whether we think they're gonna be a dynasty or not,

1663
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 2: they are clearly built for the long haul. They've been

1664
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: to several conference finals, they made of finals in twenty

1665
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 2: twenty two, they win the championship this year and probably

1666
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 2: have another five to six year window with their two

1667
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: superstars very much in their prime.

1668
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 3: Then you have the Los Angeles.

1669
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 2: Lakers, forty year old superstar probably gonna draft his son

1670
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 2: even though his son isn't an NBA player, And you

1671
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 2: just drafted a guy whose only coaching experience is his

1672
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 2: son's I think middle school or elementary school team. Jason

1673
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 2: really does speak to how frank frankly, it speaks out

1674
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 2: well the Celtics are run. It does speak to just

1675
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,759
Speaker 2: how dysfunctional the Lakers have become.

1676
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: Well wait a second, I read I read an article

1677
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: pretty popular website that suggested that Brownie James is the

1678
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:37,879
Speaker 1: next Jeru Holiday.

1679
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were going to go with JJ Reddick.

1680
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 2: The Lakers got young pat Riley.

1681
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a that was a great piece at

1682
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: the place at the New York Times bought. You know what,

1683
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: the most beautiful ending all this would be is if

1684
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: Lebron left.

1685
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 3: Like you think I was thinking about that?

1686
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, I mean really like, I don't think

1687
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: there's a chance of that, by the way, but just

1688
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: throwing the hypothetical out there. But in terms of the Celtics,

1689
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: if you want to think of the first decade of

1690
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: this century as kind of dominated by the Lakers in

1691
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: the Spurs, do you think that's probably fair?

1692
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds right.

1693
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: I mean, the Celtics were in the mix, and the

1694
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: Pistons won in there as well, But those are probably

1695
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: the two teams that I would look at. I mean,

1696
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: there's a couple of others, but the Celtics have just

1697
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: kind of been here for a while, Like they've just

1698
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: kind of become very similar to the Patriots, although they

1699
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 1: didn't have the same level of success when it comes

1700
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: to winning championships. They've just been rock solid, consistent. I'll

1701
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: say they kind of remind me of like the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1702
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 1: Like they've just kind of been close enough that it's

1703
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: been almost frustrating to watch at times that they haven't

1704
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: actually cashed in more than they have considering some of

1705
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: the talent that's come through there, and just it's like

1706
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: within an eyelash, they'll win and then they'll find a

1707
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,560
Speaker 1: way to not win. But they've been kind of that franchise,

1708
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: the one that you just they're never going to be

1709
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 1: that bad. They're just not. And the Lakers at this

1710
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 1: point are very much just in flux, looking at pretty

1711
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: soon a post lebron you know future, and Anthony Davis

1712
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: isn't going to play forever either, and what are they

1713
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: going to be after that point? How far are they

1714
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: going to have fallen by then? We have seen some

1715
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 1: iconic franchises they have fallen on tough times and it takes,

1716
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: you know, the right hire can fix it or the

1717
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: right acquisition. A Lakers are never going to have trouble

1718
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: getting talent, but we are in an age where you

1719
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: can become famous even in a very very small market

1720
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: and make a ton of money because of social media

1721
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: and because of not just technology but also just like

1722
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, you can fly to LA and still do

1723
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. You can fly to New York.

1724
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: You can do a lot of things now a lot

1725
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: faster than you used to be able to. So LA

1726
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: maybe isn't quite the destination that it once was, even

1727
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:01,480
Speaker 1: if it's still there.

1728
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 2: But.

1729
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: It is weird. Like you think about the Lakers, But

1730
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: what's funny is this, Like the celticsleft. Joe Missoula is

1731
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: their coach. It's not like they've got the greatest coach

1732
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: in the history of the world that was a slam

1733
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 1: dug hire from day one and all of that. There's

1734
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 1: plenty of conversation about Missola even this year, but he

1735
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 1: still wins. And maybe Reddick's going to be the exact

1736
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: same thing. But I do find it fascinating that the

1737
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: La Lakers in twenty twenty four they went with a

1738
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 1: guy that before you found out he was the top

1739
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: of the heap, no one would have talked about. Just

1740
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: like a regular sports fan across the country would not

1741
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: have even considered that the Lakers were going to look

1742
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: at somebody like JJ Reddick, and they end up with

1743
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick and maybe it ends up being the greatest

1744
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: hire of all time. Using pat Rowley's name in the

1745
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: same sentence with JJ Reddick needs to stop, like that's

1746
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 1: not doing anyone any favors whatsoever. But I will I'll

1747
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: throw this out there because when I read this in

1748
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: one of the staff females that we got this week,

1749
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: it just I just started laughing and thinking about it.

1750
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick suggested, and I thought this was just and

1751
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: he even said, he goes, this is not gonna happen,

1752
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: but this is also not crazy, and I just I

1753
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: thought it was brilliant. First of all, what if the

1754
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks drafted Brownie James, knowing inside that Lebron's kind

1755
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: of itching to play with Kyrie again, and tried to

1756
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: force his hand to come to them and just be like,

1757
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 1: whatever you want to pay me, I want to play

1758
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: with my son, and I want to play with Kyrie.

1759
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: Let's go win a championship. And he's not even worried

1760
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: about the salary at that point, and he comes in

1761
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: like you want to talk about hypothetical that's just fun

1762
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: to just throw out there. I thought Dan Patrick had

1763
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 1: to take of the week just tossing that out there.

1764
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 1: I found that fascinating.

1765
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 2: Well, you know, first of all, I'll say this is

1766
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 2: that listen, I think the way that you led the

1767
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: segment the idea of Lebron playing for anyone other than

1768
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 2: the Lakers. But he is a free agent, and like,

1769
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going anywhere either, but he has

1770
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 2: bailed on plenty of other situations, and he's certainly I mean,

1771
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: you know, he's said all sorts of weird things about

1772
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 2: you know, playing with Steph and you know Bronni's working

1773
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: out for the Suns. So that is an interesting take.

1774
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 2: I had not really thought about it. Him and Luca

1775
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 2: would be certainly very interesting amongst them. Let me ask

1776
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 2: you a different First of all, let me say this,

1777
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: and by the way, what I think it speaks to

1778
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 2: more than anything is I do think that it speaks

1779
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: to the fact, like the Lakers element of this, it's

1780
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 2: just how dysfunctional this organization has become. And it's so

1781
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 2: funny because again I hate keep going back to the

1782
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 2: Dan Hurley thing, but it's like I think the whole

1783
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 2: Dan Hurley fiasco opened up everybody's eyes of how just

1784
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 2: goofy this place is. Is that it's the Lakers. It's

1785
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: the purple and gold. But you look under the hood,

1786
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 2: family owned business. All the money's invested in the organization,

1787
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 2: and let's be honest, since Genie Buss took over, it's

1788
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 2: been kind of a disaster. And I remember I said this,

1789
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 2: you know when when when the Hurley stuff was going down.

1790
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: It's like, really since Kobe, or about three really about

1791
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 2: two three years before he retired, but.

1792
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:20,759
Speaker 3: Certainly since Kobe retired.

1793
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 2: If Lebron hadn't decided that he wanted to live in

1794
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 2: La to pursue things off of the court, this was

1795
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 2: a rudderless organization with no direction, no plan.

1796
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 3: They missed on a I don't know.

1797
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 2: I can't say they missed on a bunch of draft picks,

1798
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 2: brandon Ingram became an all star, Julius Randam whatever. But like,

1799
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 2: it isn't a good it isn't a well run organization.

1800
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 2: I think that I will say, And we might have

1801
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 2: mentioned this last week, Jason, but I do think this

1802
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 2: whole situation has really shined a light on just how

1803
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 2: dysfunctional this organization is. The Dan Hurley pursuit ending up

1804
01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 2: with JJ Reddick. You know, there was a report this

1805
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 2: week for me Ethan Sherwood Strauss I believe is his name,

1806
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: who said that Jerry West was banned because Jeanie didn't

1807
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 2: like him, and it's like, you really have people that

1808
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: aren't competent running this organization.

1809
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: I was actually gonna mention Wes, not because I knew that,

1810
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: because I didn't know it, but I wasn't gonna say,

1811
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 1: no way this goes down if West is the executive. Well,

1812
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: like the Lakers, with Jerry West and Jerry Buss and

1813
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: like this stuff just didn't happen like they were a

1814
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 1: buttoned up. It's not that they weren't in the news.

1815
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: They just there was something about the way that the

1816
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: thing was run that felt I don't know if it's

1817
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 1: stable is the right word.

1818
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 2: Well, Jerry Buss was a real business man. I mean,

1819
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 2: his kids are just people that inherited a lot of

1820
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 2: money from their dad. I mean, they're not all that

1821
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,799
Speaker 2: different from James Dolan. And then Jerry West, of course

1822
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 2: is probably, you know, right up there with pat Riley

1823
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 2: and maybe one or two others, is the greatest executive ever.

1824
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 2: I did think, by the way, and you know, this

1825
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 2: was a little bit of a dark take, so I

1826
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 2: didn't really want to get into it last week, but

1827
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 2: like I didn't think it was a little bit fitting.

1828
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,919
Speaker 2: That not fitting, but you know a little bit ironic.

1829
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what the right word is. But but

1830
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 2: Jerry West passing, you know, right as this fiasco is

1831
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 2: going on, it really did show you. And I think

1832
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 2: it made a lot of Lakers fans appreciate just how

1833
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 2: great he was and great at what he did and

1834
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 2: just how dysfunctional it's been large. I don't want to

1835
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 2: say since he's left, but but you know, he's the

1836
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 2: guy that drafted Kobe, traded for Kobe, that was drafted

1837
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 2: at thirteen. He was the guy that convinced Shack to

1838
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 2: come down. He was the guy that whatever all the

1839
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 2: other great moves that he made. And I do think

1840
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 2: there's some weird symbolism there about him passing away kind

1841
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 2: of right in the chaos of everything and just how

1842
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 2: far this organization has fall.

1843
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it just it really is interesting

1844
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:51,599
Speaker 1: just how the foundation of the Lakers just doesn't feel

1845
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 1: the same. It's not that is a franchise that you

1846
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: just can't count on anymore, Like it just feels a

1847
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 1: little untrustworthy. That might be the wrong word for it.

1848
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: But it's just I don't look at the Lakers and

1849
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 1: think royalty anymore. Nope, unless I'm thinking of Fletch and

1850
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of Magic and Kareem and James Worthy, Michael

1851
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 1: Cooper or certainly the more the newer teams with Shaq

1852
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: and Kobe and Robert Lorri and Palgasas and all that.

1853
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 1: Like Lebron never felt like a Laker to me, still

1854
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 1: doesn't Anthony Davis whatever. But you look at the rest

1855
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: of it, it's just like, this is not the Lakers

1856
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 1: that I grew up on. This is not a franchise

1857
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,759
Speaker 1: that's in what I believe to be a particularly good place.

1858
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: And here I do find kind of comparisons with the

1859
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: Patriots because and this happens to a lot of teams,

1860
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: like after some great run, most teams do have some

1861
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 1: real lean years. The Spurs we talked about the Spurs earlier.

1862
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 1: Spurs have been going through it. Now they've got Victor

1863
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 1: wynm Mignona. We'll see what they are in the future,

1864
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 1: but we had heard from them in like half a

1865
01:31:56,120 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 1: decade prior to this point. Generally that's the way it goes.

1866
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: But when you're the Lakers, when you're the Yankees, when

1867
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: you're one of those teams, it's not supposed to happen,

1868
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: and so it stands out even more because with great

1869
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: power comes great responsibility and publicity.

1870
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 2: Well and there's no doubt and you know, I will

1871
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 2: say I think there's kind of like a fitting analogy.

1872
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 2: It's not quite as bad or maybe maybe it's worse.

1873
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, but like with the Cowboys.

1874
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: Right, like, yeah, absolutely a great one.

1875
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 2: Leyeah, Like when Mike McCarthy just his team isn't ready

1876
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 2: for a playoff game against the Packers and they get

1877
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 2: run out of the building by a court you know,

1878
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 2: first year starter at quarterback in Jordan Love and a

1879
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 2: bunch of young guys. Like I think there's this natural

1880
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 2: inclination of like, I mean, Jerry's got to make it.

1881
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,839
Speaker 2: Way you could get Bill Belichick, I mean Nick Saban's available,

1882
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, you gotta make it.

1883
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 3: And it's like no, Jerry Jones is kind of like

1884
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 3: not been.

1885
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 2: The epitome of elite ownership for a while now now,

1886
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 2: like to his ca really to Steven Jones's credit, like

1887
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 2: they've hit on a lot of draft picks that have

1888
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 2: put them in good position. But like when it comes

1889
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 2: to like making the moves that make a franchise great,

1890
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 2: Jerry really hasn't been willing to do those. And so

1891
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of parallels there. I mean,

1892
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,719
Speaker 2: it's not a perfect apples apples because.

1893
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 1: Of course, because the Lakers have won some championships.

1894
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 2: The Lakers have won some championships. The counter to that

1895
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 2: is that Jerry was the owner when the Cowboys won,

1896
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 2: and obviously the Lakers are run by now the children

1897
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 2: of the guy who kind of turned things around. But yeah,

1898
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 2: it's just I don't know, man, It's just I really

1899
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:34,919
Speaker 2: think it's been exposed by the way. It is interesting.

1900
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,839
Speaker 2: This is another conversation for another day. You said Lebron

1901
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 2: never feels like a Laker. I could tell you, man,

1902
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 2: the vibe in this city, like the number of people,

1903
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 2: Like even when I moved here in twenty twelve, it

1904
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 2: was the tail end of like Kobe's peak, and you know,

1905
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,600
Speaker 2: lamar Odom was still there, so that meant that the

1906
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 2: Kardashians were showing up to games and stuff. And it's

1907
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 2: just it's not the same. And like, there are a

1908
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 2: lot of Lakers fans that I know that are just

1909
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 2: like I'm out on this team until Lebron's gone because

1910
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 2: they just don't like what he's done, how things aren't

1911
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 2: decisions are getting made, how he handles himself. It is

1912
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 2: just a chaotic, chaotic, chaotic situation with Los Angeles Lakers.

1913
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you're getting I would say this

1914
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: so fast. If you think about like great bands, right,

1915
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: like you could have a superstar front man, but you

1916
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 1: still know who the band is. And then there's some

1917
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: bands that are like you know the front man and

1918
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: that's it, because that's the way it goes through, Like

1919
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 1: because Tom Petty used the Heartbreakers as often as he

1920
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: did and wanted to feature them as much. Even though

1921
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 1: we knew Tom Petty, we knew them all as one unit.

1922
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 1: We know Dave Grohl is a massive superstar, but we

1923
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: know the Foo Fighters and we actually knew some of

1924
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: the other guys like the late Taylor Hawkins and things

1925
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 1: like that. There are some bands and then there's some

1926
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:55,600
Speaker 1: other bands where it's just like, oh, well, I know

1927
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 1: the front man and that's it, and or I know

1928
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 1: one guy in the band and that's the thing with

1929
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 1: it was it was always the Lakers. Now it just

1930
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 1: feels like Lebron James and the Lakers. Yep, that to

1931
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 1: me is the difference, Like it just feels like the

1932
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: Lebron James tour as opposed to an actual team, and

1933
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:14,759
Speaker 1: that's a problem.

1934
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1935
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 2: And it's one thing when it's in Cleveland and it's

1936
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 2: his hometown and they've never won anything. It's another thing

1937
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 2: when it is Los Angeles Lakers. And again, it feels

1938
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 2: like his brand has become bigger than the Lakers, and

1939
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:31,919
Speaker 2: it feels like it's it's a negative connotation because ultimately,

1940
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 2: what ends up happening is is that you know, his

1941
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 2: brand has become bigger and now feels like he's kind

1942
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 2: of making the decisions. I think a perfect example is

1943
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 2: who's the next head coach? But you know what I

1944
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 2: also think is a good example of that. Jason, who

1945
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 2: they might be drafting this week in the NBA Draft,

1946
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,679
Speaker 2: will come back discuss Bronnie James. Is it a done

1947
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 2: deal to the Lakers? Rich Paul had some interesting comments

1948
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 2: this week, But again, if he ends up a Laker,

1949
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,520
Speaker 2: what does it say about the state of this organization

1950
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: that it's next? Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox

1951
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Aeron Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting live fromthtyreck dot

1952
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Speaker 2: Com studio. Should mention shortly after the show, our podcast

1953
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 2: will be going up. If you missed any of today's show,

1954
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Speaker 2: be sure to check out the podcast. Just search Fox

1955
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your shows. Be sure to follow,

1956
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Speaker 2: rate and review again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1957
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts, and you'll see this show posted

1958
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 2: right after we get off air. So JMRT talked a

1959
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 2: little bit about the Lakers last segment. Obviously weird, weird,

1960
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 2: weird situation. Well, then in theory, could get even weirder

1961
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 2: this week. NBA Draft is this week. By the way,

1962
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 2: the buzz is just through the roof for the NBA

1963
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 2: Draft or no, I'm kidding. I will say, like one,

1964
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 2: there's a couple foreign guys that I get. It makes

1965
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 2: it a little more complicated. I actually think Donovan Clinging

1966
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 2: from Yukon, I think there's a good chance that he

1967
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 2: ends up going number one. It feels like there's some

1968
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 2: buzz there, so at least a name that you know.

1969
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 2: American basketball fans are somewhat familiar with a.

1970
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 1: Lot early though from what I saw, a lot of

1971
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 1: it is people that most fans have never watched and

1972
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 1: know nothing about.

1973
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy because even the American kids, there's a

1974
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: lot of G League ignite stuff. And for people who

1975
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 2: don't know the the program has actually since been shut down.

1976
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's going to be a weird draft, made

1977
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 2: weirder by two things.

1978
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Speaker 1: One.

1979
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Speaker 2: First of all, I don't know if you remember this.

1980
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 2: They're actually making it over two nights.

1981
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Now, which is not necessary.

1982
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 2: Not only it's not necessary, but I mean, I will say,

1983
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 2: if there's one year to do it, it's probably this

1984
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 2: year because the most high profile player in the draft,

1985
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 2: if he gets rounded, yeah, is the second rounder, and

1986
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 2: that is, of course Brownie James.

1987
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,480
Speaker 3: And I think you and I have had the conversations.

1988
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 3: Man Like, I.

1989
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 2: Feel bad criticizing him as a person because by all

1990
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 2: acounts seems like a great kid. Everybody a USC loved him, whatever.

1991
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 2: But he is about to enter a professional space, and

1992
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 2: one that frankly feels not on any feels like there's

1993
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 2: no measurement that leads anyone to believe that he is

1994
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 2: qualified to be one of the sixty or so players

1995
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Speaker 2: that should be drafted over the course of the next week.

1996
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 2: Of course, except that his father is one of the

1997
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 2: greatest players of all time, bring it up. His agent,

1998
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Speaker 2: Rich Paul, did talk a little bit about this this week.

1999
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 2: He said, Bronni is the same as all my previous clients.

2000
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 2: I got the word out early to teams. Actually, I

2001
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 2: want to read this part first, because he's only worked

2002
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 2: out for the Lakers and the Suns, and that's kind

2003
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 2: of sort of come under fire. And Rich Paul said

2004
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 2: this to ESPN, So this is nothing new. The goal

2005
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,640
Speaker 2: is to find a team that values your guy and

2006
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 2: try to push to get him there. It's important to

2007
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 2: understand the context and realize this has always been the

2008
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,679
Speaker 2: strategy with many of my clients through the years, especially

2009
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 2: those in need of development like Bronni. My stuff is

2010
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 2: by design, So that part I actually don't fundamentally disagree

2011
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 2: with is a you know, any agent's job is to

2012
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Speaker 2: put your client in the.

2013
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Speaker 3: Best position to succeed.

2014
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

2015
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Speaker 2: I don't know really what to make of it. I

2016
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:12,440
Speaker 2: do think it's interesting. I do think he's getting drafted

2017
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Speaker 2: by the Lakers. I do think it's probably a mistake.

2018
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Speaker 2: But I do think, Hey, listen, in life, you know

2019
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 2: there's nepotism across the board. I mean, you know, we

2020
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 2: saw it in usc and missions where parents were working

2021
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 2: to get their kids in to a school that they

2022
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 2: weren't qualified for whatever. But yeah, I think this just

2023
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 2: proves even further Laker dysfunctioned because I believe they're going

2024
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 2: to use a second round pick later this week.

2025
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Speaker 3: I'm Brownie James.

2026
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Speaker 1: I do think that there are a lot of second

2027
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Speaker 1: round picks that don't end up panning out. So it's

2028
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,799
Speaker 1: not as it's not the end of the world. Everything

2029
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: he said to one hundred percent right, I will say,

2030
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Speaker 1: you know, I wish he'd be good like for his sake,

2031
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 1: because I don't think a lot of this is on him,

2032
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: and I do feel some sympathy for his situation because

2033
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: he's never going to be good enough. And I think

2034
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 1: most people are waiting for the train wreck and want

2035
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 1: to see the train wreck, and I don't think in

2036
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 1: the moment that they're going to think about the young man.

2037
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Speaker 3: There's a human there yet.

2038
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do think that if you know, there

2039
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: were a redemption story to it after the fact, that

2040
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 1: people would be there for that as well. But mainly

2041
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 1: the Vichriel is going to come because of his dad,

2042
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: not because of him. I don't it's crazy because I

2043
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 1: just don't think he can win. I don't think he

2044
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 1: can win in any way, shape or form here because

2045
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:37,759
Speaker 1: he's going to be seen as the boss is higher effectually. Basically,

2046
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, he wasn't the top lawyer, as

2047
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he barely graduated law school. But

2048
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 1: the highest paying firm in New York's picking him up

2049
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: because it's you know, one of its senior partners happens

2050
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 1: to be his father or something to that extent, and

2051
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: that's how it's going to be perceived. And he does

2052
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 1: have some people in the media that are going to

2053
01:40:54,920 --> 01:41:01,799
Speaker 1: back him, but it is crazy, it's preposterous. It shows

2054
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 1: like this year you want to talk about privilege, this

2055
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 1: is a perfect example of privilege, because no way would

2056
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 1: he be spoken of at all if not for this.

2057
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 1: But what you said about him being a really good

2058
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 1: kid and everybody loved him at USC. I hope he

2059
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 1: comes in he's good in the locker room and all

2060
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 1: this and learns, and I'd love to see him turn

2061
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 1: out to be good. Has nothing to do with his

2062
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 1: dad one way or the other, just I'd love for

2063
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 1: his sake. I'd love for him to be good. And

2064
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: I wish he was good now, because as fun or

2065
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: as interesting as his story is from a media perspective

2066
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 1: and what you can do with it, I'd just rather

2067
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 1: it makes sense. I'd rather his son have been good,

2068
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 1: really good, and not just all but just men. His

2069
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 1: potentials through the roof, I don't think it is. I

2070
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 1: think his potential is average at best, and I don't

2071
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: think that I don't really think that, even if he

2072
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 1: maximizes his potential, he's a guy that's more than I'm

2073
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 1: not even sure he's an NBA player even then. I

2074
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I don't know what he does

2075
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 1: in the NBA. And when I see names like Rue

2076
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 1: Holiday and people in articles being attached to Briny, and I'm like,

2077
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Like? The only reason you

2078
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 1: can do this is because you're not gonna be held

2079
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 1: to account for this nonsense later. It's just an unfortunate scenario.

2080
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 1: But you're right. Never before has there been a second

2081
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 1: round NBA draft pick with as much interest and hype

2082
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 1: as him, And I agree with you. I think the

2083
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: Lakers are gonna draft him unless somebody pulls something out

2084
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: before them. But I do think that there's no chance

2085
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:31,839
Speaker 1: he doesn't get drafted.

2086
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll just wrap by saying this. I think

2087
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 2: it speaks a little bit to what I just said

2088
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 2: last segment, where the frustration with Lakers fans is, you know,

2089
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 2: decisions are being made by Lebron that aren't in the

2090
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 2: best interests of the Lakers. They're in the best interests

2091
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 2: of Lebron, whether it be JJ Reddick, whether it be

2092
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 2: drafting his son, some of the other moves.

2093
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 3: That have been made through the years.

2094
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 2: And I can't speak for every Lakers fan, but I

2095
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:55,919
Speaker 2: know there's a lot of them that are really frustrating.

2096
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I literally have buddies that are just like,

2097
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm out on this team until he's gone.

2098
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 3: So that's probably another conversation for another day.

2099
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what Fox Sports Radio eritors Jason

2100
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 2: Martin will come back. Do want to talk about just

2101
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:13,560
Speaker 2: completely switch gears and talk about the incredible scene Thursday night, Birmingham, Alabama,

2102
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 2: rickwood Field. We'll continue that conversation next, but first final

2103
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:20,840
Speaker 2: time this evening to Seger, the floor is yours, my friend.

2104
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 7: And that all that got such great reviews the Fox

2105
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 7: telecast of how they did that from start to finish,

2106
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 7: I mean, some people were already saying this needs to

2107
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 7: get Emmy consideration next year of how good it was.

2108
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 7: Thursday night, Fox TV drew two point three to five

2109
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 7: million viewers for Giants Cardinals. Those two teams took yesterday

2110
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 7: off and they're playing in Saint Louis this weekend. Cardinals

2111
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 7: beat the Giants nine to four. As you talked about

2112
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 7: the absolutely silly Brownie Drew Holiday comparison, sorry for chuckling.

2113
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 7: Can I just say out loud that Drew Holiday started

2114
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,640
Speaker 7: every game at UCLA as a freshman.

2115
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 3: And was really good.

2116
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, let's just sit.

2117
01:43:57,479 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 3: They make a final four, they I think.

2118
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, and let's move on people. By

2119
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 7: the way, the golf is perfect for you two. This weekend,

2120
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 7: we got the PGA event in Connecticut. Then the live

2121
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 7: golf event is a Nashville.

2122
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 3: That's whoa we're competing.

2123
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 7: Wow competitive Yrell Hatton leads the Live Golf tournament by

2124
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 7: three strokes. Bryson to Shambo tied for third with John

2125
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 7: Rahm four strokes back. Meanwhile, in Connecticut at the Travelers,

2126
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 7: Cameron Young shot fifty nine today, including two eagles no bogees.

2127
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 7: He's tied for eighth. That's not even the course record there.

2128
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 7: Jim Furick shot fifty eight on that course in twenty sixteen.

2129
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 7: That's also the tour record. Tomkim leads by one stroke.

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Speaker 7: It's Travelers. Scottie Scheffler tied for second place. Rain canceled

2131
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 7: qualifying for tomorrow's NASCAR Cup Series event. Chase Elliott will

2132
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 7: start from the poll. The Infinity Race at New Hampshire

2133
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:52,920
Speaker 7: went to Christopher Bell programming note Switzerland at Germany and

2134
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 7: euro Soccer on Fox TV tomorrow three pm Eastern Time,

2135
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 7: and then the US host Bolivia in its Cope America

2136
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 7: opener from Arlington, Texas. Mexico won its opener tonight in Houston,

2137
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 7: won nothing over Jamaica. Venezuela came back to beat Ecuador

2138
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 7: two to one. At the Euros today, Belgium defeated Romania

2139
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 7: to nothing, including a goal in the second minute. Portugal

2140
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 7: shut out Turkey a three nothing. Portugal led two Zip

2141
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 7: in the first half after an own goal. A lot

2142
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,839
Speaker 7: of those so far in that tourney Checkia TI, Georgia

2143
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 7: one one, WNBA three games wins for Minnesota, Washington and

2144
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 7: New York is fourteen and three after beating La eighty

2145
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 7: eight Brianna Stewart thirty three points. Four games on Sunday,

2146
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 7: including Indiana at Chicago, and yes, we have a game

2147
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 7: seven Monday in the Stanley Cup Edmonton at Florida. Remember

2148
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 7: I had mentioned at the beginning of the series the

2149
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 7: distance between these two cities, Edmonton, Alberta to Sunrise, Florida

2150
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 7: about twenty five hundred miles, the longest distance between Stanley

2151
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 7: Cup Final opponents in league history. And it looked like

2152
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 7: it would mean nothing because Florida was going to get

2153
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 7: a sweep. Right, They're up games and none instead, another loss,

2154
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,639
Speaker 7: very long flights, another loss, very long flight. Yep, they

2155
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:08,440
Speaker 7: are back home for Game seven on Monday. A Canadian

2156
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 7: team has not won the Cup since nineteen ninety three,

2157
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 7: zero to six in the final, since Montreal beat the

2158
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 7: La Kings and Gretzky in ninety three. Well, two notable

2159
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 7: baseball pitching performances to talk about in a moment. First Off,

2160
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 7: the College World Series did start tonight and Texas A

2161
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 7: and M led Number one Tennessee seven to one in

2162
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 7: the third inning. Aggie's nine to five to the final

2163
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,679
Speaker 7: that starts the best of three. Game two is tomorrow

2164
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 7: now pitching at Dodger Stadium tonight. Tyler Glasnew got the win,

2165
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:40,600
Speaker 7: the La Native with seven innings, one earned run, ten strikeouts,

2166
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 7: no walks, and only seventy four pitches in his seven innings.

2167
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 7: Dodgers over the angel seven to two. Sho Hey otania

2168
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 7: two run homer his twenty third. The Yankees got an

2169
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 7: early home run from Aaron Judge his twenty eighth eight

2170
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 7: three the final over Atlanta. Judge has seventy RBIs than

2171
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 7: the twenty eight homers and is batting three oh one.

2172
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 7: Selazuna hit his twenty first homer for the Braves. He

2173
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 7: has sixty four RBIs is batting three to twelve. But

2174
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 7: the Braves offense went four for thirty in this game,

2175
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 7: the loss to Charlie Morton. Great pitching matchup or performance,

2176
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 7: I should say for Minnesota in their ten to two

2177
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 7: win at Oakland, and the A's record is twenty nine

2178
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 7: and fifty. By the way, we actually had a complete game.

2179
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 7: There are so few of those these days. I looked

2180
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 7: it up. Last year's leader incomplete games had three for

2181
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 7: the full season's Bailey ober at six foot nine for

2182
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 7: the Twins today, not only through a complete game, struck

2183
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 7: out ten and did so with eighty nine pitches thrown.

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01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 7: According to the great researcher Sarah Laggs, pitch counts have

2185
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:44,839
Speaker 7: been tracked since nineteen eighty eight, and in all those years,

2186
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 7: there had only been one game where a guy threw

2187
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 7: a nine incomplete game with at least ten strikeouts and

2188
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 7: did so on fewer than ninety pitches, and that was

2189
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 7: David Cohne's perfect game in nineteen ninety nine. So kudos

2190
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 7: to Bailey Ober, who turns two twenty nine next month

2191
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 7: out of College of Charleston. As for the earlier games, today,

2192
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 7: Cleveland won it's four straight. Guardians are having a great year,

2193
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 7: six to three. They beat Toronto, which has lost five

2194
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 7: in a row. All of the scoring in that game

2195
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 7: came on homers seven total, and the Cleveland closer has

2196
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:18,679
Speaker 7: been superb. Emmanuel Class is twenty third save his era

2197
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 7: is zero point seven to four. Philadelphia's record fifty to

2198
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 7: twenty six. Phils beat Arizona twelve to one. Zach Wheeler

2199
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 7: another win. He's eight and four, and Philadelphia gave pitcher

2200
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 7: Christopher Sanchez a four year extension. Bryce Harper had four

2201
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 7: hits today. Nick Castianos five RBIs. Pitcher Max Scherzer of

2202
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:40,679
Speaker 7: the Rangers will make his season debut tomorrow. Texas today

2203
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:42,839
Speaker 7: was up one nothing in the eighth and beat Kansas

2204
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 7: City six nothing. John Gray the win on FS one.

2205
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 7: The Cubs defeated the Mets eight to one. Jamison Tyle

2206
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 7: in the win with ten strikeouts in seven innings. Cubs

2207
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 7: scored five times in the first and the White Sox

2208
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 7: got a rare victory five to one at Detroit. And

2209
01:48:56,240 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 7: congratulations to college Baseball's player of the Year, George's Charlie Condon.

2210
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:03,720
Speaker 7: He'd already won the Deck Howser Trophy. He took the

2211
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 7: Golden Spikes Award tonight as the country's top amateur baseball

2212
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 7: player for Georgia. Batty average for thirty three and thirty

2213
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:17,719
Speaker 7: seven homers, the most in college baseball since Lance Berkman

2214
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 7: for Rice over twenty five.

2215
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 8: Years ago hit forty one.

2216
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 1: Back to you.

2217
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:24,679
Speaker 2: I saw that, and I was like that that has

2218
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,680
Speaker 2: to be I don't I can't remember that many home

2219
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 2: runs from a guy in a long time.

2220
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 3: So, I mean, you know, what do they play about

2221
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 3: sixty sixty.

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Speaker 8: He's not one hundred and sixty two games yeah.

2223
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Speaker 2: Incredible, Thank you very much to seg or to say,

2224
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 2: we'll be back tomorrow.

2225
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 8: Aren't you gonna be here tomorrow?

2226
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 3: I will be I'll be in with Mark Willards, so

2227
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 3: the gang will be back. Mary'll be here, I'll be here,

2228
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 3: You'll be here.

2229
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 8: And then Arnie after a Monday morning.

2230
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 3: Oh, who are you in with? J Martin?

2231
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm in with No, with No okay for the two

2232
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 2: pros and a cup of Joe. Okay, I'm sorry, all right,

2233
01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 2: so J mart and Brian No at six am East

2234
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:04,679
Speaker 2: time on Monday. I'll be in five eight eastern five

2235
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 2: Pacific with Mark Willard tomorrow forward.

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01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 1: Hearing you guys break down every dribble of full fever

2237
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 1: sky is real quick.

2238
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with Willard's intensity on the Caitlin Clark Fever?

2239
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 2: I mean, no pun intended. I mean, are we gonna?

2240
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 2: Are we gonna go at it? Or is he?

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01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's god familiar. I don't know. I don't

2242
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 1: know if he's got a bunch of scorching I've only

2243
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 1: hosted with him once. I don't know if there have

2244
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 1: been any scorching hot WNBA takes or not from him.

2245
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 3: It's gonna be the only thing going on tomorrow, I

2246
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 3: mean the College World Series.

2247
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 7: I don't think we're USA on Fox with the opening

2248
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 7: the Copa America tomorrow as well. By the way, you

2249
01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 7: talked about the WNBA, did you notice that it was

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01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 7: last night they moved the game out of Atlanta's little

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01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 7: arena and put it in the Hawks Arena and sold

2252
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:54,640
Speaker 7: it out over seventeen thousand. So appropriate, something unusual like

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01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 7: that and crazy. It was the Fever Dream match.

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01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.

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01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the normal Atlanta arena host if you want to

2256
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 2: call it that. Wherever they play host holds thirty five

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01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 2: hundred and for fun, I looked it up. The Hawks

2258
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 2: averaged about fourteen thousand fans per game this year, had

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01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 2: seventeen plus last night for Caitlin Clark and the Fever

2260
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 2: The Fever Dream. As de Seger said, So Saga and

2261
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 2: I will be back tomorrow. Ja, Marty'll be in on Monday.

2262
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason will come back. We'll discuss that

2263
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:27,679
Speaker 2: Rickwood game, wrap the show that's next. Fox Sports Radio

2264
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 2: celebration of a great show tonight, great song Mary, Welcome

2265
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 2: back everybody Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin. We

2266
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 2: are broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios.

2267
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 2: We're taking you up till two am Eastern time. Bernie

2268
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 2: Frado of the Bernie Freddo Show will follow us. Bernie's

2269
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 2: got all sorts of good stuff on the docket for

2270
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 2: this evening. Jameson before the break, we briefly talked about,

2271
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:56,560
Speaker 2: you know, with we're chating with the Sager, so we

2272
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 2: figured we'd save it for the back end. Did you

2273
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 2: catch any of the game Thursday night? Rickwood feel Birmingham, Alabama?

2274
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:07,040
Speaker 2: A great scene, you know, great job by everybody at Fox.

2275
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:10,679
Speaker 2: Just an amazing scene. Obviously a former Negro League park,

2276
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:13,640
Speaker 2: and obviously you know, and we could get to the

2277
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,519
Speaker 2: other part of it in a minute, but you know,

2278
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 2: it came just a day, a day or two after

2279
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 2: the passing of Willie Mays. But did you get a

2280
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 2: chance to watch any of the game on Thursday night?

2281
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 1: Chase not live. I was able to watch it after

2282
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 1: the fact, a lot of highlights, and I think MLB

2283
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: and Fox both did a nice job of putting it

2284
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 1: on like YouTube, where you could watch two to two

2285
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 1: minutes here or ten minutes there. I thought the black

2286
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 1: and white stuff, in particular, the retro broadcast portion was

2287
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,720
Speaker 1: I mean Chef's kiss. Like, there's nothing negative to say

2288
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 1: about the entire broadcast, and all the raves that I've

2289
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:51,560
Speaker 1: seen seem very warranted. But like, if they had just

2290
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 1: run the whole thing in black and white, I think

2291
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 1: it would have been great. I know you don't want

2292
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 1: it to look over gimmicked, but there was something about

2293
01:52:56,640 --> 01:53:02,679
Speaker 1: that that just it felt it felt special, it felt unique.

2294
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:05,760
Speaker 1: But even when they would show like shots of the

2295
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:08,960
Speaker 1: entire field of Rickwood and you saw the amount of

2296
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 1: seats that were there, it just it looked like you

2297
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:16,679
Speaker 1: were you had been transported many decades past and being

2298
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 1: the same week as Willie May's passing, and just it

2299
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 1: was just a wonderful environment, wonderful experience, and Baseball needed it.

2300
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 1: There's been some there's been some problems that they've had

2301
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 1: to deal with, even with their own television coverage and things.

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01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: This year. That was a big time win for all involved.

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01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 1: At a tremendous job by Fox and just a great

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01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:38,559
Speaker 1: just a great thing for Baseball to have done. A

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01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 1: total win.

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01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Fox really does knock it out of

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01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 2: the park. No, Yeah, no doubt they You know, I've

2308
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 2: been with this company in some form of fashion for

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01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 2: like ten years now almost and Fox TV does amazing

2310
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:54,720
Speaker 2: stuff always, but especially with big events. I mean, you know,

2311
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 2: the company was built around Sunday, NFL football, Daytona five

2312
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:03,640
Speaker 2: hundred play off Baseball, and I give them credit, and

2313
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 2: I don't know who gets the credit for kind of

2314
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 2: the unique you know, the games that have been set up.

2315
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 2: You know, you look at the Field of Dreams game

2316
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 2: was unbelievable. Was a few years ago. I think they

2317
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 2: did a second one as well. I could be mistaken

2318
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 2: on that, and then this one was just spectacular. So

2319
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 2: whether it's it's Fox MLB both whatever, but no, I

2320
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:29,440
Speaker 2: thought it was great. I thought it was an incredible

2321
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 2: celebration of this sport. You know, they had on the

2322
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 2: set obviously Reggie Jackson. I mean, I'm sure a lot

2323
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 2: of people saw the viral clip of his time playing

2324
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 2: in the minor leagues in Alabama certainly did not have

2325
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 2: the best memories, but also you know, made sure to

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01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 2: credit you know, the teammates and management and managers that

2327
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 2: had his back. And then they had Barry Bonds and

2328
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 2: King Griffey Junior on set at the same time, which

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01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 2: was pretty cool. As well, really quickly, Jason, you know,

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01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to overdo this because one, it's a

2331
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 2: few days oh to you know, you didn't see Willie

2332
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 2: Mays play live.

2333
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 3: I didn't see Willie Mays play live.

2334
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 2: Bluntly, I think most of our audience probably didn't see

2335
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 2: him play lived. Did you have any thoughts about his passing?

2336
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 2: You know, the only thing that really stood out to

2337
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 2: me was, obviously was that you know that it obviously

2338
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 2: happened in the lead up to this game. He obviously

2339
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 2: played in the Negro leagues to start his career. And one,

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Speaker 2: I think it speaks to just the incredible longevity of

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Speaker 2: everything that he outside of all the statistics and we

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01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 2: all know how great he was. But but two, you know,

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Speaker 2: it was funny because I saw a statement a few

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01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 2: days before his passing where somebody asked him or a

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01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 2: family member or whomever, you know, will will he be

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01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 2: in attendance obviously with the Giants being in that game,

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Speaker 2: and there was a statement that was released basically it said,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'll be watching from home and I would

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01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 2: love to be there, but I won't be able to

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Speaker 2: make it. And so obviously, you know, seeing that he

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01:55:56,760 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 2: passed just I think two days before this game. Very sad,

2352
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 2: you know, you just feel awful to see it happen,

2353
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 2: but obviously an incredible life. Ninety three years old passed

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Speaker 2: away on Tuesday of this week.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna sound just off the wall, but I've

2356
01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 1: always said that, you know, my two favorite baseball players

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Speaker 1: I never got to watch play were Willie Mays and

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01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: Hank Aaron.

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01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 3: Sure, and I.

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01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 1: Still feel that way, like I never got to watch

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01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 1: WILLI play. I've seen the highlights of the catch, and

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01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 1: I've seen some highlights of what he did, and I've

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01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 1: read a biography and all these other things. Something about

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01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 1: Willy Mays, I was just like, man, I wish I

2365
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 1: could have seen him, Like, yeah, of course you got

2366
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 1: your babers and all this other kind of suff I

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01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 1: get all that. Something about Willy Mays always stuck out

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01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 1: to me. And so this one hit. You know, I

2369
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 1: think it also makes you think about as you're getting

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01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 1: older now I'm in my mid forties, you know we're

2371
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 1: gonna have these moments where these iconic athletes, iconic figures

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01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 1: that we just that almost seem superhuman, are going to

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01:56:57,520 --> 01:57:00,720
Speaker 1: pass on, and you start to think about legacies and

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01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:04,040
Speaker 1: what they've done in their lives. And I mean Willie

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01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 1: Mays was from a different time, but he represented something

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01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 1: very very important and it's not something we can really

2377
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 1: speak to because of our age. But we're getting to

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01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 1: that point, like we're starting to see. You know, the

2379
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 1: first stage I think in figuring out you're actually getting

2380
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 1: older is when you see players taking coaching jobs.

2381
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 3: Their sons are all playing now.

2382
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like guys that I watched play who I

2383
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 1: don't think are that old, are now coaching in the league,

2384
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 1: coaching in the NBA for exam. We even talk about Reddick.

2385
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know Steve Nash and Jason Kidd,

2386
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:44,720
Speaker 1: and you're seeing it in the NFL now with you

2387
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:48,560
Speaker 1: know a number of different guys, Gerrod Mayo, and you know,

2388
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy to think. And then you also look

2389
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 1: at and I see this too now, like I'll go

2390
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 1: do I'll go check out a Peloton workout or something,

2391
01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 1: and all of the music that is on that I'll

2392
01:58:00,400 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 1: just have to back off it and go find a

2393
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 1: nineties ride because I don't know any of the artists,

2394
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 1: And like you know, I was paid for a while

2395
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:12,560
Speaker 1: to be a cultural critic, and I was super up

2396
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 1: on all of music and all this kind of stuff,

2397
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 1: and it's just gone now. But I think that it's

2398
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:19,919
Speaker 1: just another example of that. And so there's a generation

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01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 1: that came before us where the Willie Mays story hits

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01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 1: completely differently than it does for us. But even I

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01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 1: and even you understand to some degree just how big

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01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 1: a figure Willie Mays was.

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01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 2: Zero doubt, And you know, I think the only thing

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01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 2: that stood out to me was the word I used

2405
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 2: a minute ago, is longevity.

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01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 3: But you know, first of all, you know, the.

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01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 2: Negro leagues just at this point just feel like this

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01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 2: figment from a different world, and it was obviously right,

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01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 2: but like he was a living person that played in

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01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:01,280
Speaker 2: that league, and you know, great, I think the other

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01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 2: incredible party was seventeen years old when he played in

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01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 2: that league and ended up playing twenty five more years

2413
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 2: of professional sports. So yeah, Willie May's an incredible career.

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01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think we're the perfect people to

2415
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 2: talk about him, but clearly we understand his importance to

2416
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 2: the history of Major League Baseball. And obviously it was

2417
01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 2: especially you know, sad given the circumstances of this week.

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01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 2: Tell you what Jason don't want to end it down,

2419
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 2: not but we do have to get out of here.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank the crew, Mary mack on the board,

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01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 2: producer Shay Steve De Sager, for my partner Jason Martin.

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Speaker 3: I am Aaron Torres.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next Bernie Frado of The Bernie Fratto Show.

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01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 2: I know Bernie's gonna have some good stuff on Willie

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01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 2: Mays as well as as well as the rest of

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Speaker 2: the week in sports. Make sure to download the podcast,

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01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:48,839
Speaker 2: a lot of good stuff. We'll be back next Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Listen to Jay mart on Monday Morning, Toris Morrow, Fox Sports.

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