1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Oh how back in now? 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Number two Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Buck is 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: down in Nashville for the rest of the week. I 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: am preparing to go out and humiliate myself on a 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: golf course in a little over two hours from now. 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: We will see how all of that shakes out. We've 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: had a lot of fun with you in the first 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: hour so far. Eight hundred and two two two eight 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 2: a two. Several of you waiting to weigh in. We'll 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: get to some of those calls here in this hour, 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: so if you are chilling with us right now, we 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: will get to you. But interesting data points that came 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: out and with the requisite, hey, these are polls. We 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: know that polls get be inaccurate all of those different aspects. Buck, 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: We obviously have been talking a lot about the Republican 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: race and the twenty twenty four or race according to CBS. 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know if you saw this. I'll give 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: you a chance to guess. 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: What percentage, according to CBS of Republican voters are only 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: considering voting for Trump in this primary, thirty twenty four percent, 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: according to CBS Freaking the Buckster. Yeah, all right, here's 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: the other question, which percent? What percent say that they 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: are not considering voting for Trump at all in the 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: Republican primary. They will not consider Trump, will not vote 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: for him as the nominee. Right, not for the race itself, 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: but in the primary, fifteen percent, twenty seven percent. 29 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: Higher than I thought. 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: So basically, according to this there are roughly even numbers 31 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: of people who are voting in the Republican primary who 32 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: say they are both only for Trump and will not 33 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: consider voting for Trump at all. This is just in 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: the Republican primary. Forty nine percent say buck that they 35 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: are open to Trump and or any other candidate. Okay, 36 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: so twenty seven percent out on Trump, twenty four percent 37 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: only Trump. That's fifty one percent of the Republican electorate, 38 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: and then the other half basically saying, Hey, I'm open 39 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: to Trump, but I'm also considering other candidates. This strikes 40 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: me as roughly accurate based on when I talk to people, 41 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: I would say around a quarter of people are like 42 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: it's Trump or nobody, around a quarter or like I 43 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: absolutely positively will not vote for Trump, but I'll vote 44 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: for somebody else. And about half of you are saying, hey, 45 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: I kind of want to see how this is going 46 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: to play out. Does that strike you buck based on 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: your interactions with people as roughly accurate of what you 48 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: would assess the marketplace. 49 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: You know, there's reading the tea leaves and there's reading 50 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: the call screen. And based upon what we get on 51 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: this show in terms of the calls, I think that 52 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: is about right. I think we get something along those lines, 53 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: which is, I know it's very non scientific polling, but 54 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: based on who calls in and what their feelings are 55 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: about the primary at this point in time, Yeah, I 56 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: think we got a quarter to a third or just like, 57 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: look it has to be Trump and something like a 58 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: quarter to a third, or like I really don't think 59 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: it should be Trump. And then there's the people who 60 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: are like, let's see. There's a big middle of let's 61 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: see okay. And then I want to hit you with 62 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: two other polls that are out today. Nevada, which is 63 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: a state that should be in play, was the only 64 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: state to flip from a Democrat governor to a Republican governor. 65 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: Incumbent losing the governor Democrat assistances to Lack. I think 66 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: lost to Lombardo in the in the state of Nevada, 67 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: so Nevada should be in play relatively close race in 68 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one of those super tight places Biden, according 69 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: to the most reliable polster in Nevada, this guy has 70 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 1: pretty much nailed everything. Biden is eight points above Trump 71 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: in the state of Nevada right now at forty eight 72 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: to forty for Biden versus DeSantis, Biden is up one point, 73 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: so by forty three to forty two. And if you're 74 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: out there and you're saying, Okay, what's the difference here, 75 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: it is with independence, and we're gonna keep slamming this 76 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: because this is the election in twenty four With independence, 77 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Trump is trailing Biden by twelve points. Independent voters favor 78 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: Biden forty eight to thirty six in Nevada over Trump. 79 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Biden versus DeSantis, DeSantis wins independent voters. That is how 80 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: he basically is even right now. And I'm gonna hit 81 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: you with Georgia as well. But here's the big question. 82 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: DeSantis is unquestionably better right now with independence, buck could 83 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 1: he maintain that advantage? Or is this because the left 84 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: in this country hasn't gone to war as much with 85 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: DeSantis as they have with Trump, and so DeSantis is 86 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: the more less defined candidate and they will tear him 87 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 1: down like they have torn Trump down. 88 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: I think that's a really intriguing question that nobody knows 89 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: the answer. How would you assess that right now? 90 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: I remember when it wasn't even it wasn't even about 91 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: the primary, but it was just big in the national 92 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: conversation how popular DeSantis was as a governor because of 93 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: COVID and the COVID response the people who moved to Florida, 94 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: and they started to run those DeSantis is worse than Trump, 95 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: remember that, Worse than Trump, Scarier than Trump. And that's 96 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: amazing because Trump, we were told by those same media outlets, 97 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: was a once in a lifetime threat to our democracy, 98 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: and somehow they started to set the groundwork for actually 99 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: Rons is even scarer. So there is that. There's the 100 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: U he hasn't gone up against, and he's obviously still 101 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: not a candidate, which we have to keep in mind here, 102 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: but DeSantis has not had the full force of the 103 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: media trying to destroy him as a presidential candidate. They 104 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: have tried as a gubernatorial well gubernatorial candidate really more 105 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: so as a governor, So I think that's a component 106 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: of it. I also think that Trump is going to 107 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: and the people around him. Look, the more I talk 108 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: to folks, the more that some of the senior campaign 109 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: advisors around Trump, I'm told are seasoned and get it 110 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: these days and understand what has to be done. They understand, 111 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: you gotta win this one. There can't be any oh no, 112 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: we won this one too. If you didn't win, or 113 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, if there was a you know, he's got 114 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: to win the White House in twenty twenty four or else. 115 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: This is going to be a damage not just to 116 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: the brand, but I think to the whole movement that 117 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: was built around Trump and Trump isn't they see it? 118 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: They get it, And what I'm told is that they 119 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: understand there has to be a message from Trump that 120 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: is not only national in the broadest sense of growth, 121 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, the economy being better and things being more 122 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: sane and less left wing lunacy, but also what is 123 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: a specific pitch for the independent voters, because one percent 124 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: of the people who show up in twenty twenty four 125 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: are going to decide who wins this thing. That's just 126 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: the reality of it that we face by the numbers, 127 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: and so I think Trump is going to focus in 128 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: on that. I think you'll see even before the primary 129 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: is over, he's going to start to make moves that 130 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: look more like it's toward the center. 131 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: You pointed it out, and I think it's true. Trump 132 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: is actually running to the left of DeSantis right now, 133 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: particularly on abortion in particular. Okay, another stat and by 134 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: the way, this is why I also think it's super 135 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: smart of Trump to take the offer from CNN and 136 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: do the live town hall. Heck, if MSNBC would offer 137 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: Trump a live town hall, I'd be kind of inclined 138 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: to do it as long as it's live, not taped. Georgia, 139 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: this is the state that to me, of all the 140 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: states that went against Trump, I think Georgia was the 141 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: most disappointing to me personally, because if you look at 142 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,479 Speaker 2: the map, the South solidly supported Trump except for teny 143 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: eleven thousand votes in Georgia. Georgia is still a challenge. 144 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: Remember Trump came out and went and endorsed against Brian Kemp, 145 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: and then Brian Kemp smoked Stacy Abrams even without Trump's support, 146 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: in fact, the opposite of his support, and the one 147 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: guy and I went and campaigned as hard as I could, 148 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: the guy that Trump was most steadfast behind Herschel Walker. 149 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: He lost to Reverend Rafael Warnock. And I went and 150 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: I busted my ass. You guys know this. For Walker, 151 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: I spoke at his rallies, I did everything I could, 152 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: and he couldn't get over that hurdle. Lost in the runoff. 153 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: Here is the poll coming out today buck from the 154 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: Atlanta Journal Constitution. Ron DeSantis five point lead over Joe 155 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: Biden in Georgia. Outside the margin of error, this would 156 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: be a flip, right, gotta win Georgia, whoever the nominee is. 157 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: If you don't win Georgia, you're not gonna win the election. 158 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: In twenty four DeSantis up five points on Joe Biden, 159 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: Trump down one, down one right now, according to the 160 00:09:54,320 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: Atlanta Journal Constitution. That is a six point difference between 161 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: who's voting in Georgia. 162 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: Why does it happen? 163 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: DeSantis does better than Trump with independence and with voters. 164 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: This is interesting in Georgia over the age of sixty five. 165 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: All right, this is the Atlanta Journal Constitution poll. DeSantis 166 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: running six points better in Georgia than Biden. Now, if 167 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: you can't win Georgia, this is why I said my 168 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: advice to Trump. If he said, Clay Travis, you get 169 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: to pick my VP, I would say, apologize to Brian Kemp, 170 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: put him on your ticket as the VP. Take Georgia 171 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: off the board for Democrats because you gotta win Georgia. 172 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: Georgia is the state. You win Georgia, then you can go. Look, 173 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: could you flip Nevada? Could you flip back Arizona? Can 174 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: you win one of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and then the 175 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: big ten states? But Georgia is the one you have 176 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: to have. But this is a desposit Again, I understand, 177 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: and it's a poll. But DeSantis running six points better 178 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: in Georgia. Trump has got real issues in Georgia. To 179 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: me go, put Brian Kemp on the ticket. Apologize to 180 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: peach state voters twice. Now we have lost, and I 181 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: say we as the Republicans lost the runoffs. 182 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: We lost, We lost Senate control because of the right 183 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: that weren't the right Republican for Georgia. That's what happened. 184 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: Two of them. That's right. 185 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: Warnock has won twice now when he should have lost 186 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 2: both times and John Ossaf also won. 187 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: Should question is do we did we learn the lesson? 188 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: And do we want to win? I mean, ultimately this 189 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: is going to come down to do we want to 190 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: win these places? Because we've had enough losses that no 191 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: status quo for the GOP in these battlegrounds ain't gonna 192 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: cut it. Status quo is not going to get it done. 193 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean that I'm saying, oh well, it 194 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: has to be Trump ward has to be to say 195 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: this doesn't mean that. It just means what is the 196 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: plan and what is the pathway? Because running the twenty 197 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: twenty two playbook or the twenty twenty playbook in these 198 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: same places, based on all the data you can see, 199 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: is going to come up short. The good news is 200 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: we've got, you know, got from part of the math 201 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: in my head eighteen months before this is actually decided, 202 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: and so that's plenty of time to put in place 203 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: the kinds of not only strategy when it comes to messaging, 204 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: but also the ground game that is necessary. One thing 205 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: that was really and any would saying, oh, what kind 206 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: of stuff you're talking about? When Trump came out after 207 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and said, we've got to do ballot 208 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: harvesting where it's legal. We've got to do early voting 209 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: wherever we can. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. 210 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: You're putting that in place, and you're messaging to you know, 211 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: low propensity voters in key states, independent and swing voters 212 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: in key states. That's how you actually win an election 213 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: doing this stuff that's really amusing and fun. Whether it's DeSantis, 214 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, fly kicking Disney in the face, or you know, 215 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: Trump making fun of CNN and it's terrible ratings. That's 216 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: amusing to us. But those kinds of things aren't going 217 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: to win elections. And we need to understand that now. 218 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: And everybody needs to study what Brian Kemp did, because 219 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: remember Stacy Abrams ran a well funded darling of the 220 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: left campaign. 221 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: She raised money hand over fist she got I remember 222 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: the numbers kicked. Do you remember the number sci it was? 223 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: So I remember, I think you told me it wasn't 224 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: like one hundred million dollars in that Senate race or 225 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: something that they governor's race and the Senate race too. 226 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they poured money in, but they managed to 227 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: tie Herschel and obviously Herschel's past life. You know, he 228 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: had issues that they they bludgeoned him with, which factored in, 229 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: you know, suburban moms in Gwenett County felt more comfortable 230 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: with the Reverend Rafael Warnock than they did with Herschel Walker. 231 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: I'm just telling y'all, I worked as hard as I 232 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: could to get Herschel to win, and we couldn't do it. 233 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell everybody I knew my number. I hate. 234 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: I never want to overstated the number when it comes 235 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: to something like this. Warnock's campaign here, according to Open Secrets, 236 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars. Yeah, the last time 237 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: around one hundred and fifty million dollars raised for a 238 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: Senate seat. Okay, this is what we are up again. 239 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,359 Speaker 1: So when we talk about Fetterman is you know, incapable 240 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: and Biden's too old. They don't care. They're going to 241 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: have massive turnout machines with a ton of money behind 242 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: them and the media lying, propagandizing, doing anything they have 243 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: to do in order to get it across the finish 244 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: line for their team. So we got to know what 245 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: time it is. Look, I've made no secret of the 246 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: fact that my mom is the best superhero. 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By the way, we mentioned this Trump the 275 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: town hall that's coming here. He is rather sorry here 276 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: CNN is It's just kind of remarkable to hear it 277 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: at this point because he was effectively he was like 278 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: he was Clay Travis. He was benned from their air 279 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: for four years. Here he is not, not really but 280 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: pretty close to it. Here's CNN play clib. 281 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: One quick programming note. Former President Trump is going to 282 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: take questions from New Hampshire primary voters and an exclusive 283 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: CNN town hall. I'll moderate that event on Wednesday, May 284 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: tenth at nine pm Eastern. 285 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. New Hampshire is a state 286 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: where as I understand it, that's a particularly challenging state. 287 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: Right now among GOP voters for Trump, so I think 288 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: he will get some Now, I'm sure CNN is going 289 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: to push the most challenging and you know, the toughest 290 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: questions for him. But to be fair, as long as 291 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: as long as the people asking the questions really are 292 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, GOP primary voters, and that's being reflected. I mean, 293 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: that's the game, right, you want to be president of 294 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: the United States. Now, Trump can handle. The amount of 295 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: heat he can handle is obviously superhuman in some ways. 296 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: But I do think it'll be worthwhile to see how 297 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: he takes these questions from some Republicans in New Hampshire 298 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: Clay who aren't only on the Trump train yet. 299 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: Oh. 300 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: I think it's super smart and as long as it's live, 301 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: I think Trump will come off well. And I think 302 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: for the CNN audience again, they have built him up 303 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: to such a devilish proportion that when you actually see Trump, 304 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: he's actually a very likable guy. And I think the incongruous, 305 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 2: incongruousness nature and congruity there is actually really beneficial to Trump. 306 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: And I think he should be doing as many non 307 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 2: traditional outlets as he can if he's really trying to 308 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: appeal to these independent voters that he has to persuade 309 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: to come back to him. 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The New York Times is reporting that Vice, 332 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: a company that once had a five point seven billion 333 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: dollars valuation attributed to it, that raised billions with a 334 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: b of money, that they are about to file for bankruptcy. 335 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: In addition to Vice potentially filing for bankruptcy, BuzzFeed, which 336 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: is one of the lions, I would say of the 337 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: early two thousands media industry. You probably remember seeing those 338 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: BuzzFeed quizzes and all that stuff on your Facebook feeds 339 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: back in the early two thousands. Buck BuzzFeed stock is 340 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: basically worthless now they did a spinoff one of those SPACs, 341 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: and let me look at the actual stock price today. 342 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: We are sitting at fifty two cents a share. The 343 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: market cap valuation for BuzzFeed is now just seventy seven 344 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: million dollars, and they went public at ten. So the 345 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: BuzzFeed stock price is down ninety five percent since it 346 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: went public. And to me, this is interesting because first 347 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: of all, a lot of these guys are going to 348 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: have to learn to code. But the market here for 349 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: media companies, particularly ones that often were I think it's 350 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: fair to say, slanted towards the left is collapsing in 351 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: real time as the economy in general is wobbling. And 352 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: we mentioned this yesterday, including a lot of big bank stocks. 353 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: Right now, it's stock market down big today. Three of 354 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: the four biggest bank failures to ever occur in United 355 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: States history have happened in the last six weeks, including 356 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: the second largest yesterday. And it's like many people aren't 357 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: even taking note of what exactly is going on. It's 358 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: a calamitous time. 359 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: You know, there's that old joke. I don't even it's 360 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: not even a dad joke. I think it's a graandpod joke, 361 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? How did you go bankrupt 362 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: gradually then suddenly? Yeah, it feels a bit like the 363 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: impending recession right now falls into that category where we've 364 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: been seeing all these indicators for a long time. I 365 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: think some of the major Wall Street banks are forecasting 366 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: basically a seventy percent chance of recession this year, and 367 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: yet we're kind of just we're so used to hearing 368 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: about this and the Biden administration that I think we 369 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: get a little bit numb to how big the fallout 370 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: can be. Tech were the tech companies which Clay have 371 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: really been pushing the Nasdaq and been a huge the 372 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: so called fang stocks, right Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Google. That's 373 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: where people's for A and k's have been getting the bumps. 374 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: They need to keep up with the projection so that 375 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: folks can retire, right That's what's been driving not all 376 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: of the stock marketed gains, but a lot of the 377 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: stock market gains. Tech industry is hemorrhaging employees right now. 378 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: You don't hear that much talking about that these days. 379 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: Either you've brought up the commercial real estate side on 380 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: sere ouside of it, you've got commercial real estate, which 381 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: I feel like that's at this point they're just hoping 382 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: to hold on to you know, they're hoping to hold 383 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: on to things until there's a turnaround and all of 384 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: a sudden people start coming into the office more. I 385 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: don't know what the long term play is, but you 386 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: have a number of factors here when you add possible 387 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: bank failures, the tightening of credit that's occurring, the FED 388 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: raising rates, but also banks tightening credit in general to people. 389 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you see the rates that people are getting 390 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: on mortgages, and then you should talk about commercial properties. 391 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 2: Yikes, it's rough out there. It's rough, for sure. All right, 392 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: let's get to some of your calls. Let's start with 393 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: Laura in a North Carolina. Laura, you want to react 394 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: to those bud Light numbers down twenty six percent as 395 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: their business has collapsed. 396 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Dylan Milvaney, who's I pretending to be a female, 397 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: pretending to be a girl, not a woman? Is advertising well, 398 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 4: bud Light I think was driven by men boycotting mainly, 399 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: but she's also or he is also advertising for Mabeling, Alta, 400 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: nikewear for women, Kate Spade handbags, all these women products, 401 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 4: and we as women are not doing anything about it 402 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 4: with this person, this man pretending to be a female, 403 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 4: pretending to be a little girl. 404 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: You know that you're preaching an extra to the choir here. 405 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: Excellent point. I would just say that what this shows you, 406 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: you know, there's the look at us. We finally showed 407 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: them how we're not going to and for this anymore mentality. 408 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: And then there's the they got so overconfident with how 409 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: much the corporate wokeness would go without pushback that they 410 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: thought they'd run a trans influencer campaign on bud Light. 411 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Play, there's that's a different 412 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: perspective on it, but it's a little bit like we're 413 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: defending on our five yard line instead of high stepping 414 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: into their end zone. It's very good sports analogy. Thank you, Buck. 415 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: And let me say this. 416 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: She's right men and and and I've hammered this, but 417 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: I think it makes people think a lot. There are 418 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: no famous women who become men. I just want you 419 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: to think about it from a cultural perspective. Actually, there's 420 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: an addendum to that. If they are a famous woman 421 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: and become a man, they become a lot less famous. 422 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, like the Ellen Page Ellen Page thing, not not 423 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: getting big movie roles anymore. I mean that's the only 424 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 1: one that comes to mind, But you think of some 425 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: other ones. I've never seen anybody who's made a transition 426 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: to male from female and then accelerated their career if 427 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: they were previously famous. I mean maybe there's someone. I'm 428 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: just not thinking of them. No, you're right, And that's 429 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: where I had that revelation. 430 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: And it's because I think culturally, men aspire, generally speaking, 431 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 2: to be bigger, stronger, faster versions of ourselves. Right Like, 432 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 2: if you look at what men look up to, it's 433 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: badass athletes, it's badass special forces. 434 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 5: I mean you're thinking, you're thinking stud radio guys like 435 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 5: bucking radio. Yeah, totally, the raw masculinity coursing through your 436 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 5: radio station right now. All of you are thinking to yourselves, 437 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 5: if only I could be the alpha male that Clay 438 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 5: and Buck are right, But I'm joking about this, But 439 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 5: you know, you look at at what young boys aspire to. 440 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 5: It's superheroes, right, it's Superman, super ripped alpha male status. 441 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 5: And women who decide to become men, let's be honest, 442 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 5: are going to be, by and large kind of wimpy dudes, 443 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 5: and men don't look up to them, and they have 444 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 5: no cultural cachet. 445 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: And there's something that by the way, that was an excellent, 446 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: excellent call we just had. And I think one of 447 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: the great testaments of the show is how high quality 448 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: our callers are because of how insightful this audience is 449 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: and the amount of knowledge, expertise and wisdom that it's 450 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: brought to bear here by all of you every day. 451 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: But I would just say it is true, Dylan mulvaney 452 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: is not pretending to be a woman. Dylan mulvaney is 453 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: really pretending to be a thirteen year old girl thereabouts. 454 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: Even an immature version of a thirteen year old girl, 455 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: you know, like not the way that girls even behave. 456 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: A woman, doesn't you know? You just you look at 457 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: some of these videos and the sort of the super 458 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: high fake falsetto voice and the the clapping of the hands, 459 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: and it is a caricature not even of womanhood, but 460 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: a caricature of girlhood. Yeah, and I do think it 461 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: wasn't isn't in the uh was it mulvaney who did 462 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: the you know, three hundred days of being Uh uh, 463 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: that's that's that's how that person became famous, right, three 464 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: hundred days of being I think it was a bit 465 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: of being a girl, right, or girlhood was. 466 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: Three hundred and sixty five days counting down, like counting 467 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: a full year of being a girl. 468 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: But that's that's very very strange, right, because what we're 469 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: told is that when trans men or when men transition, 470 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: their transitioned to being a woman. But yet they elevate 471 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: somebody who is clearly doing an impersonation of a caricature 472 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,239 Speaker 1: of like a thirteen year old girl. Why, that's very strange, right, 473 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: This is not an adult Dylan mlvaney as a quote 474 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: woman is not acting in public, like any adult male 475 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: or female ever would Yes, So how is that normal 476 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: for anyone? Why is that to be elevated and respected 477 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: in any way? And it's woman face, which is a 478 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: phrase that I think needs to be more utilized because 479 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: it's an exaggerated fake version of a woman put on 480 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: by a man, to your point, and also a girl. 481 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: But what they're taking advantage of buck is woman to man. 482 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: No one makes money, no one becomes famous. There is 483 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: no aspirational quality or respect by and large that is 484 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: foistooed upon someone pretending to be a man. Why are 485 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: women allowing men to make millions of dollars pretending to 486 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: be women. That's a question for all women listening to 487 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: us right now, because men aren't standing for it. By 488 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: and large, you aren't getting rich by pretending to be 489 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: a man. You are by pretending to be a woman. 490 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: You know, they keep saying, oh, it's not that common, 491 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: the sports things, right wing talking point. Let's just talk 492 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: radio and Fox News what they say. Another one, transgender 493 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: cyclist Austin Killops has finished first place in the women's 494 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: category in the Tour of the Gila Killips Broke Free 495 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: from the Pack. YadA, YadA, this is a road race, 496 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: so a cycling in New Mexico, I think right, Oh 497 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: so it would be Hila like Heila Monster, which I 498 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: think that's correct, thank you. The elite level road race 499 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: with a thirty five thousand dollars prize for first place. 500 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: The twenty seven year old was sanctioned to compete in 501 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: the event sent a set by rules of the UCI, 502 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: And of course there's controversy and YadA, yah, YadA. I 503 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: have a year. 504 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: Buck of equal pay and a dude one pretending to 505 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: be a woman in that racing contest. 506 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: So really there's. 507 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: Actually financial incentive for a crappy man, oh bicyclist, cyclist, 508 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: however you want to say it to flip and become 509 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: a women's champion. 510 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Clay, there is I'm not a psychiatrist, you know, 511 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: maybe get Jordan Peterson to call in. But there's some 512 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 1: malignant narcissism that's at work here. I mean this notion 513 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: that anybody would think that what they're doing by transitioning. 514 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: And now you know, okay, if you want to transition, 515 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: why don't the women, why doesn't the transition to women 516 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: ever include? But I still want to play against the 517 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: guys I'm gonna tell you my mom was so good 518 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: at tennis when I was growing up that she played 519 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: on the men's letter just because she was so good 520 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: and she beat most of the guys. Why don't that 521 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: you know? And that's just you know, one of these situations, 522 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: the transition. People never want to come, you know, they 523 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: never want to compete against men. Still, why why is 524 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: it so important to win? Well, I think, well, it's 525 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: a great point. And also this ties in with the 526 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: woman to man. A woman who decides to become a 527 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: man doesn't even make the male sports team. So everybody 528 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: out they'll say, oh, this trans thing is not really 529 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: that big of a deal. Well it is. 530 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: If you're a man who decides to become a woman 531 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: the flip side, you have basically no chance of making 532 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: a mins team. 533 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: The point is, somehow, it's never they never want to 534 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: continue to compete against their own gender. They have to 535 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 1: compete against the other one. 536 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: You know. 537 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we all see what's going on. Inflation 538 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: and prices are rising, my friends, and now there's a 539 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: banking crisis we've been talking about all show. 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Sunday, Hang with Clay and Fucking a new podcast. 556 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get 557 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: your podcasts. 558 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: I think this is this is interesting. You have a 559 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: story from the New York Times, Claire. They just trying 560 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: to get rid of, you know, put some of this 561 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: stuff out there now so that it doesn't affect the 562 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: election because you just said, first off, CNN reporting on 563 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: what a mess the border is, right, you just told me. 564 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: The border right now as we get ready for Title 565 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: forty two to end next week, and Biden is sending 566 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred troops to the border, which is probably a 567 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: tenth of what they need, right, but at least. 568 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: And just understand that when we send national or troops 569 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: to the border, they're not arresting people, they're not deputized, 570 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: they're not doing any of that stuff. They're essentially doing logistics, 571 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: some surveillance assistance, but a lot of what border patrol 572 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: ends up doing because of all of the surrenders that 573 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: occur where people and I've seen this, I've seen both, right, 574 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: I've seen guys who are making a run for it. 575 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: They get over a wall, or they go in an 576 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: area where there's no wall, which there's still obviously a 577 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: lot of and Border patrol has to get get in 578 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: the truck and you know, track them down and wrestle 579 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: them to the ground if they don't stop. But most 580 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: of what you're seeing are people waving at portatrol saying 581 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: hey here I am, I want my water and a 582 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: sandwich please, and also, you know, take me in for 583 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: a medical check and then release me because I want asylum. 584 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: That's what's actually had. So the National Guard is not 585 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: people think of this, I think often as oh wow, 586 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: well it's helpful. Porder patrol could use the man power assistance, 587 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: but it's not like locking down the border from illegal crossings, 588 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: the fence and al all the rest of it. Right, 589 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: So that's one piece of it. I think we're gonna 590 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: talk quite a lot about this coming up in what 591 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: on May eleventh, Title forty two ends, which means that 592 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: one of the only authorities that is being used as 593 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: a stopgap measure to prevent people from claiming asylumn once 594 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: they come into the country illegally, that will go away, 595 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: which just means now it's going to be an even 596 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: bigger free for all. We'll be talking about that. But 597 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: also this story Clay about the Whole Foods in San Francisco, 598 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: the post pandemic opening of a Whole Foods in San Francisco, 599 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: that we want to talk about. You know, Carrie was 600 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: just in San Francisco and I asked her. I was like, 601 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: what was it like out there? She's like, yeah, of course, 602 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: there's still nice areas and nice stuff. But the downtown, 603 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: oh yeah, the main areas of San Francisco. It is 604 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: a bad scene there right now. We got some calls 605 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: in here, Lisa in Ramsey, New York. I mean, I'm 606 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: born and raised New Yorker. I'm learning about Ramsey, Lisa. 607 00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in. 608 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 3: Hi, guys, it's absolutely New Jersey. I'm in New Jersey. 609 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna that's a code read for the call 610 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: screen because they said New York. But that's why I 611 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: was like, I didn't even know there was a Ramsey, 612 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: New York because there's not New Jersey. There we go, 613 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: what's going on? Lisa. 614 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: I have a slightly different take on your the Dylan 615 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 3: mulvaney story with bud Light. Sure, so I compare it 616 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 3: to when the NFL years ago tried to increase their 617 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: brand and their sales and appeal more to women. Remember 618 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 3: when they shrink It. They did that shrink it and 619 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 3: pink it, and they wanted to sell more merchandise to women. 620 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 3: They wanted more female viewership among women. So I think 621 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 3: bud Light was attempting to do the same thing by 622 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 3: increasing their brand awareness outside of like a forty crowd 623 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 3: like I think you know when that woman was talking 624 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 3: about the freddy sort of image. So they're trying to 625 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 3: appeal more. 626 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: To but Lisa, for example, appealing to women, who's an 627 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: actual Yeah. 628 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 2: But my thing is, I don't disagree with Lisa's theory, 629 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 2: but it's insulting to women to try to appeal to 630 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: women by using a fake woman to do so. 631 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: Oh, it's not appeal. It's not meant to appeal to women. 632 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: It's meant to appeal. The Dylan mulvaney campaign is meant 633 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: to appeal to woke coastal elites who put their pronouns 634 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: in their email signatures and you know, like it was 635 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: a purely political move. 636 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: It's not about women. Women aren't They're all s. Those 637 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: people are never going to drink bud Life either. They 638 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: probably don't even drink beer. Sorry, bud Life rip.