WEBVTT - How Icebergs Work (Very Cool)

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should know?

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<v Speaker 1>From House Stuff Works dot com? Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W Chuck Bryant

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<v Speaker 1>and that makes this stuff you should know? How's it

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<v Speaker 1>killing everybody? It's a joy stage, Josh, so oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's just it's been a joy. Stay. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>you think? I'm very glad you think it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>joyous day. What do you think? You haven't had a computer,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't care. I know my laptop has been

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<v Speaker 1>apparently too full of data to operate whatever that means. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's stuffed it up with fifty gigs of shady stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right. Yeah, it's called research, I guess. So every

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<v Speaker 1>single bit of that it was hard facts buddy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And songs? Yeah? Videos is that? Well? There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Videos tend to stop stuff up by especially high res ones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably what it was. I would imagine. So on

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<v Speaker 1>your work computer, no less, Well, what am I going

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<v Speaker 1>to do? Cary? Answer? Computers? Why where are we talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this? I don't know you started it let's hear

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<v Speaker 1>the intro. Chuck, Yes, I'm quite sure that. Um, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm kind of stupid for mentioning probably the most

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<v Speaker 1>famous ship ever to be sunk by an iceberg, but

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<v Speaker 1>humor me. Of course. We all know the wreck of

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<v Speaker 1>the William Carson, which in seven went down off the

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<v Speaker 1>coast of Labrador. Uh. It had a number of cars

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<v Speaker 1>on board, but more importantly, a hundred and nine souls, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what they call you when you're to see. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a hundred and nine souls lost. I never really

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<v Speaker 1>hope heard that or paid attention. Really, I thought they

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<v Speaker 1>would say lives lost. They say souls. They say souls.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they used to old time, you wise, before Kennedy

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<v Speaker 1>in the separation of Church and date. I guess right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess now they call them lives before they were

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<v Speaker 1>souls all souls lost. That's sad. Yeah, it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>even sader. It's like the saint crying right under certain circumstances. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the luckily a hundred and nine souls were not lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero souls were lost on the William Carson, as everybody knows.

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<v Speaker 1>The cars went down, though, which is a tragedy for

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<v Speaker 1>the insurance companies covering those cars. But as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>like every school child knows the story of the William Carson.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that there were other ships that have

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<v Speaker 1>hit icebergs? I was not aware of any. It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lady of the Lake Okay, yeah, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>about that one went down in the Grand Banks. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make a movie about that. Uh no, no, you're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of ex caliber Um. The Lady of the Lake went

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<v Speaker 1>down the Grand Banks on its way to Quebec with

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<v Speaker 1>seventy people on board, seventy souls. Um the s s

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<v Speaker 1>hush SHD toft hush and toft okay yeah, um off

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<v Speaker 1>the coast of Greenland in nineteen fifty nine on her

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<v Speaker 1>maiden voyage. Can you believe this? That makes it so

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<v Speaker 1>much worse that it's a maiden voyage. People dead all

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<v Speaker 1>because of icebergs. I mean, there's been other ships that

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<v Speaker 1>have hit icebergs, but um, all because a chunk of

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<v Speaker 1>floating ice took out an entire ship. Souls and souls

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<v Speaker 1>and souls were lost. Yeah. You know, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>young fan named Shelley Stein right now that is about

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<v Speaker 1>to throw her iPod through a window. Is that the

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<v Speaker 1>person who always wants to hear about that that other ships, thinking, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's been begging for like two years leading into the anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Um. Anyway, what's crazy is that all of

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<v Speaker 1>these ships were lost. As a matter of fact, between

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty two and eighteen passenger liners went down in

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<v Speaker 1>a place called Iceberg Galley. But it was only the

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<v Speaker 1>last twenty five years that we started tracking icebergs. What's

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<v Speaker 1>even more amazing, though, is that we have learned a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount in those twenty five years, and we're still

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<v Speaker 1>learning and we will dispense with the learning forth with.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. This is interesting. Was this a grabster? Yeah? Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>he puts together a nice article, then he he does.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows what he's doing. He's a professional. I never

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<v Speaker 1>feel uh, I never feel bad about about his. But

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<v Speaker 1>you feel bad about some of them. Yeah, like the

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<v Speaker 1>ones I write, like the ones you write. They're very adventurous.

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<v Speaker 1>They were for the Adventure Channel right at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>So chuck, um. I think people they're sitting there sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at home thinking right now, like they're talking about icebergs

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a chunk of floating ice and You're

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely right. It is just a chunk of floating as

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<v Speaker 1>not just a chunk. There's so much more to us um.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, iceberg salt water, Nope, fresh water yep. Why well, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I learned virtually everything I've ever known about icebergs within

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<v Speaker 1>the past forty same here, by the way, Uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>is ice um, but it's not sea ice or pack ice.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you see deadly sketching there motoring through that

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<v Speaker 1>that sea ice. Those those aren't little chunks of iceberg.

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<v Speaker 1>That's saltwater, right, that's frozen seawater. Frozen seawater and iceberg

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<v Speaker 1>was um is a piece of a glacier that has

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<v Speaker 1>busted off or calved, calved, calved like having a calf,

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<v Speaker 1>like giving birth to a cat is calving, calving, calving, calving. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I had it until you threw me off. Well saying

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<v Speaker 1>cal I thought it would be calving, calving, caving away

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<v Speaker 1>from a glacier. How many times we just say calving

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<v Speaker 1>and a glacier. Uh, Let's talk about glaciers for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Glaciers are packed snow basically. Well, yeah, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they're a little more interesting than that. Well, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the that's the base route. Though in certain latitudes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it never gets warm enough for snow to fully melt

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<v Speaker 1>all the way in the summertime. So what you have

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<v Speaker 1>an accumulation of that snow that builds up over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again over the centuries, over the eons,

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<v Speaker 1>as old as ten thousand years old, sometimes right. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a glacier. But glaciers are also additionally interesting

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<v Speaker 1>in that um, they become so heavy that they over

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<v Speaker 1>this freezing thaw cycle and um the accumulation of layers

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<v Speaker 1>that they all of the air bubbles are pressed out

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<v Speaker 1>of them. So glaciers are blue, the color of frozen

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<v Speaker 1>water with no air in it. Um. And they also

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<v Speaker 1>move under the force of their own weight. They moved downward,

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<v Speaker 1>downhill towards sea level, because sea levels as downhill as

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<v Speaker 1>it gets right until you hit the sea, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, So because of this, they they are this

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<v Speaker 1>ultra dense form of ice. So it slips down, floats

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<v Speaker 1>out into the sea. Tidal motions eventually will cause little

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<v Speaker 1>cracks and fissures, and then a piece of the glacier

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<v Speaker 1>will break off and boom there that's an iceberg. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a freshwater piece of the glacier freshwater glacier chunks, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's freshwater because it's made of snow, not seawater. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you said that it floats out into the sea.

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<v Speaker 1>That's called an ice shelf. Um. And up north and

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<v Speaker 1>northern latitudes, Um, the biggest ice shelves are found on

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<v Speaker 1>the western coast of Greenland. Was there Arctic or northern

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<v Speaker 1>icebergs that are formed up there off of those glaciers

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<v Speaker 1>down south in Antarctica where there are penguins. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the only place there's penguins. I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure everybody knows. I know. And no polar bears. No,

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<v Speaker 1>only a pool would say that. Yes. Um, the pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much the continent of Antarctica is ringed with ice shelves

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of open sea, so the icebergs

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<v Speaker 1>can get really big. They can keep extending, extending, extending,

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<v Speaker 1>But then like you said, yeah, they break off and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have an iceberg. Don't talk about ice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fascinating. Like I want over this again and

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<v Speaker 1>again and again until I finally got it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I got it. It's so easy though I

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<v Speaker 1>was making a lot of pot of it. Yeah. Uh, ice,

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<v Speaker 1>as we all know, is the solid phase of water

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<v Speaker 1>you have you know, liquid solid gas. Iis a solid

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<v Speaker 1>phase thirty two degrees fahrenheit for fresh water zero celsius.

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<v Speaker 1>Salt water is gonna need to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>colder because, um, there are basically salt molecules getting in

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<v Speaker 1>the way of the ice forming. Well. They they they

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<v Speaker 1>move faster I believe than water molecules, and it takes

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<v Speaker 1>a lower temperature to slow them down. And also it's

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<v Speaker 1>greater density if you're talking saltwater, right, which is important,

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<v Speaker 1>very important. But ice also is the is peculiar meaning unique,

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<v Speaker 1>and that it's the only solid phase of any substance.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that is less dense than the liquid phase.

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<v Speaker 1>So ice is less sense the water, and then seawater

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<v Speaker 1>is denser than fresh water. So well, and it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>to remember the ice is less dense because when you

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<v Speaker 1>put a little ice cube in your little chardonnay this summer,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a red neck, it'll float. Yeah, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>little uh, ice forms in a crystalline shape, so those

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<v Speaker 1>that leaves area for gaps, I guess, And so what

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<v Speaker 1>is the air in there? Uh? I'm sure there's just

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<v Speaker 1>less dense. It's just the it's just it's less dense. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>if you take water and freeze it, you can think

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<v Speaker 1>of it as spreading out, so it gets bigger, has

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<v Speaker 1>it has a larger volume, but it'll weigh the same

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<v Speaker 1>as that lesser amount of water, right, And when you

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<v Speaker 1>put something, say ice, in water, it's buoyant in that

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of water displaces has to equal the weight

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<v Speaker 1>of the ice that's displacing it. But since there's more

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<v Speaker 1>ice than an equal weight of water, there's some leftover

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<v Speaker 1>that floats. And that is what we call the tip

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<v Speaker 1>of the iceberg. And when do you get confused, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the tip of the iceberg. That is the part that

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<v Speaker 1>sticks out, and it's about, depending on the iceberg, about

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<v Speaker 1>one six to one ninth. And I'm sure everyone's seen

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<v Speaker 1>those awesome pictures on the interwebs of you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the water and under the water of the iceberg.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty cool, right, you've seen those. I have very

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<v Speaker 1>nice And the reason there's very variation between how much

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<v Speaker 1>iceberg is showing it is because of the variation in

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<v Speaker 1>the concentration of salt in seawaters or any particular part

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<v Speaker 1>of seawater. And and um. Also uh, some icebergs are

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<v Speaker 1>denser than others as more as he said, just like people. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that you mentioned earlier that glacial ice is blue. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>That is true. Um. During different melting and freezing cycles, though,

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<v Speaker 1>they will turn white because the air gets trapped in there. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then sometimes these really old icebergs that have formed

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of these thick Antarctic ice shelves like

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<v Speaker 1>that have been around for thousands of years might actually

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<v Speaker 1>have a greenish hue because it's just you know, soaked

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<v Speaker 1>up organic matter under there over the years, right and

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<v Speaker 1>then so which is kind of a dirty yellow brown.

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<v Speaker 1>But icebergs have the tendency to roll over without warning,

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<v Speaker 1>which is one reason why you wouldn't want to camp

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<v Speaker 1>on an iceberg. No, they're dangerous to be around. They are.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually there was one that floated down to New

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<v Speaker 1>Zealand and some helicopter charters were like selling flights to

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<v Speaker 1>go check them out, and one of them landed on

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<v Speaker 1>the iceberg and they realized prett quickly they shouldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>that anymore. Um. But did they like getting short did it? No?

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<v Speaker 1>They made it out okay, But when they got back

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<v Speaker 1>and told people, I'm sure some scientists like, wait, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you just do? Right? Don't ever do that again?

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<v Speaker 1>Tc um, but the iceberg will roll over. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the green part up that's with the light

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<v Speaker 1>reflecting up through the blue park when you get this

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant emerald green. And that's some old ice right there, Bubby, Bobby, Yes, Bobby,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never said that before. Uh. The life cycle of

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<v Speaker 1>an iceberg is pretty interesting too. Why we mentioned they

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<v Speaker 1>can be as old as ten thousand years before they

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<v Speaker 1>ever reached the ocean, and um, this is like centuries

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<v Speaker 1>of compression. So that's why it's so so dense, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's blue. And then once it calves off though

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<v Speaker 1>and and from the glacier, you've got about three to

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<v Speaker 1>six years on average, right if it's like say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>up in the in iceberg galley and never strays below parallel,

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<v Speaker 1>which is apparently where the water starts to get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot warmer. Four Parallel goes for Americans through like the

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<v Speaker 1>tip of Minnesota and the Upper Peninsula Michigan. People below

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<v Speaker 1>that are like, it's still pretty cold. I imagine, um,

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<v Speaker 1>so ones that stay up there and never come back down,

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<v Speaker 1>can float around for like fifty years and just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of alt the way slowly and quietly. Right. Ones that

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<v Speaker 1>make it further south, like one made it to Bermuda once,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure was quite a surprise. Um. Those go

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<v Speaker 1>away fairly quickly. Uh yeah, and I enjoyed this. Um.

0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.640
<v Speaker 1>One account of this expedition. Um. What's the guy's name?

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Gregory Stone witnessed and wrote about in his book

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<v Speaker 1>Ice Island um, which I believed the largest ones are

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<v Speaker 1>called ice island sometimes. Yeah. Right. Um. His quote is

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<v Speaker 1>in this iceberg basically became destabilized, and it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>it exploded, like right in front of his face. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well he said that there was an ice debris field

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<v Speaker 1>across two miles. Yeah, and he said it was like

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<v Speaker 1>shards of crystal shattering. Right. But if you think about it,

0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what happens when you put in ice cuban water. Yeah.

0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.840
<v Speaker 1>You hear that noise, right, It's called thermal shock. Yeah,

0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.640
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty cool. And it's also because ice is less

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<v Speaker 1>dense than water. As it's liquefying, it shrinks because think

0:13:56.400 --> 0:14:00.200
<v Speaker 1>about it's contracting and it's pulling apart the outer warm

0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:04.360
<v Speaker 1>or layer from the inner colder layer, and this cracks

0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.880
<v Speaker 1>form and the ice cube essentially explodes. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the same thing that happened. Yes, when you pour

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<v Speaker 1>that that twelve year old scotch on top of your

0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.760
<v Speaker 1>single cube of ice. If you're into that, I don't

0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.520
<v Speaker 1>know if you should be doing that. But okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a neat guy. I like my I like it

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<v Speaker 1>a little cold, and and I'm not so hardcore with

0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the single malts, so too remove that bite just a

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<v Speaker 1>bit is good for me. You don't so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>like take it neat through your nose as that the

0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.560
<v Speaker 1>way to do it. Yeah, the way you drink it

0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:37.160
<v Speaker 1>with ice through your mouth. Yeah, I know, scotch pure

0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.880
<v Speaker 1>scoff at me, but scalp away or whatever. Just do

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<v Speaker 1>what you like exactly. Um, that it was very supportive.

0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I meant you as like people in general. Okay, so

0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:51.800
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't supportive. Um, let's talk about some factoids and

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<v Speaker 1>this this is to me. The fact of the show

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<v Speaker 1>is that there are actually six official classifications with their size,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first two it sounds like they were having

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to drink when they had the naming party

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<v Speaker 1>and sobered up a bit, because the smallest one's about

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<v Speaker 1>the size of a car, maybe a little smaller, called growlers,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the next one, maybe about the size of

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<v Speaker 1>your house, is called a burgie bit. I put the

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<v Speaker 1>emphases on a bit like a burgie bit, a burgie bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, it's pretty cute. It is very cute. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they got I guess sobered up or got bored

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<v Speaker 1>or ran out of whiskey, and then they said, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>then the next ones are small, medium, large, and very large,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really boring compared to burgie bit. It is,

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<v Speaker 1>but the very large ones are kind of interesting in

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<v Speaker 1>that they just keep going and going. The largest one

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<v Speaker 1>ever record is the B fifteen iceberg. Yeah, broke off

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<v Speaker 1>of the Ross ice shelf down in Antarctica. Apparently it

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<v Speaker 1>was about the size of Jamaica. Yeah. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's broken apart into smaller piece of sense, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think the original um area was about sixty square miles.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all. That's a big chunk of ice. Yeah, And

0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.800
<v Speaker 1>in order to be I mean, that's the upper limit,

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<v Speaker 1>like it can just be as big as they're gonna get.

0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.800
<v Speaker 1>There's no like cap or anything like that. To call

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<v Speaker 1>it super extra large. Um, but very large. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to be about twenty four stories tall and a little

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<v Speaker 1>longer than two football field six to be classified is

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<v Speaker 1>very large. Yeah, that's that's big man. If you think

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<v Speaker 1>about that, Yeah, it's huge. UM. I'm sorry, it's very

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<v Speaker 1>large or it's huge huge. Um. The other two classifications

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<v Speaker 1>that icebergs can fall in are equally boring as the

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<v Speaker 1>last four size names. They really could have done better

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<v Speaker 1>than this if you ask me, But they're the t

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<v Speaker 1>shape classifications are tabular and non tabular. And tabular is

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<v Speaker 1>basically just like a well, it looks like a table,

0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:54.840
<v Speaker 1>like a or a tab tablet, writing tablet, and it's back.

0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like tall with steep sides and a flat tops

0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.760
<v Speaker 1>like a floating plateau. Um. And those tend to come

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<v Speaker 1>off of the ice sheets down in the act Antarctic.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, Yeah those are um. I think they have

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<v Speaker 1>to have a with five times greater than their height

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<v Speaker 1>to be tabular. And then non tabular have I think

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<v Speaker 1>five different classifications. You got blocky flat top steep signs.

0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:23.879
<v Speaker 1>They sound like characters they do wedged um flat with

0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.280
<v Speaker 1>a steep surface on one side and a gradual slope

0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.240
<v Speaker 1>on another. So it's like the high right haircut. Yeah,

0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the gumby the gumby the dome which is round and

0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.320
<v Speaker 1>smooth pinnacle, which means it has at least one big

0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:40.520
<v Speaker 1>tall spiral sticking up, and then the ones that um

0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.679
<v Speaker 1>deteriorate to where they form a big canyon. And it

0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.639
<v Speaker 1>looks like two different icebergs, but it's really connected. Underneath

0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.120
<v Speaker 1>those are dry docks, so that means they have two

0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:55.080
<v Speaker 1>tips sticking out, but they're connected underwater. It's like mind blowing.

0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.199
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty much. It was. It's pretty neat at the

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<v Speaker 1>very least. So, um, we've got northern icebergs, southern icebergs, um,

0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:08.879
<v Speaker 1>and there's plenty of icebergs like elsewhere, but for the

0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.280
<v Speaker 1>most part, in northern icebergs, like we said, form off

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:17.199
<v Speaker 1>the western coast of Greenland, because Greenland, apparently I read this,

0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Greenland and Antarctica are the only place where, um, there's

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<v Speaker 1>ice sheets, glaciel glacial true glacial sheets, glacial sheets. Boy,

0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a tough one, that was. It surprised me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't expecting that. Uh. And in Greenland there's about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty glaciers that cap the majority of the icebergs. Yeah,

0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.399
<v Speaker 1>that was I thought pretty cool. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>cool too. Um. Roughly forty thousand medium too large h

0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.600
<v Speaker 1>calv from Greenland glaciers each year, is that right? And

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<v Speaker 1>they are about ten percent as strong as concrete, which

0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought sounded not super strong, but apparently that's like

0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.800
<v Speaker 1>way harder than like freeze our ice. Oh yeah, like

0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.000
<v Speaker 1>this ice is different than the ice you put in

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<v Speaker 1>your scotch, right, which is why when icebergs run into

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<v Speaker 1>one another, it tends to break it up into smaller icebergs.

0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:17.000
<v Speaker 1>They're very much subject to um wave motion uh storms,

0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.480
<v Speaker 1>other icebergs land When they run into things, like they

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<v Speaker 1>break up, and it's one of the things that has

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<v Speaker 1>a big deletrious effect on their lifespan. But it's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the it's part of the iceberg life cycle. Going

0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:35.920
<v Speaker 1>with the okay, good, Um, they are pretty slow but um,

0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.480
<v Speaker 1>to give you an idea, like a fast moving iceberg

0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.640
<v Speaker 1>goes about two point two miles per hour and that's

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<v Speaker 1>Hauland oh, I'm glad you bring this up because that

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<v Speaker 1>raises a very important point because we see the tip

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<v Speaker 1>of the iceberg and because we're so um anthropocentric, Um,

0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.679
<v Speaker 1>we assume that wind drives icebergs, you would be dead wrong.

0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.680
<v Speaker 1>And assuming that since most of the iceberg is underwater,

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<v Speaker 1>it's currents that drive icebergs, makes sense. Yeah, um. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's how icebergs can be trapped, like in the Antarctic,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're trapped in that current or up north in

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<v Speaker 1>the Labrador Current, they kind of stay trapped up there. Um.

0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:19.400
<v Speaker 1>But it also makes them subject to wave motion currents

0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.680
<v Speaker 1>from other far far off storms. And I guess getting

0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.000
<v Speaker 1>hung up on things underwater, yes as well. It's another

0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:29.800
<v Speaker 1>good point is um, they apparently strike the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>land a lot. Yeah, and they can like wreck the seafloor,

0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.320
<v Speaker 1>can't they. But if you think about it, like there's

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of parts of North America where glacial movement carved

0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.639
<v Speaker 1>geological features are of the land. The icebergs do the

0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 1>same thing when they're dragged along by the current. And

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:51.920
<v Speaker 1>say one's a thousand feet tall underwater and it hits

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 1>a patch of sea that's less than a thousand feet

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.800
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna strike New York City and fast go to

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<v Speaker 1>Central Park and look at the there. Oh yeah, yeah,

0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.400
<v Speaker 1>they got all those little grooves cut out, that's ice.

0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:11.040
<v Speaker 1>That's ice ice baby. Um no, no, it's not nice. Uh.

0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:14.399
<v Speaker 1>The ecology this was sort of surprising to me because

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<v Speaker 1>I just figured they're just floating along. Maybe they melt

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, what's the big whoop? But I didn't

0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:24.280
<v Speaker 1>really consider the fact that it's melting this glacial fresh water,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it at times, depending on the size

0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.720
<v Speaker 1>of the iceberg, all around in the sea water. And

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.240
<v Speaker 1>that's got to have some sort of ecological effect. Yeah,

0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.560
<v Speaker 1>And I couldn't find anything anywhere that said, like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of life that's adapted to living in fresh

0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:40.040
<v Speaker 1>water even though it's home is sea water, and they

0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.199
<v Speaker 1>live around icebergs. I couldn't find anything like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>apparently it has little effect on these animals because icebergs

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:51.000
<v Speaker 1>are basically like floating time released nutrient capsules. Yeah, it's

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.720
<v Speaker 1>like teeming with life around it. So they must love it,

0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:55.800
<v Speaker 1>these little krill and plankton. It's like a lot of

0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:59.840
<v Speaker 1>small stuff generally, Well, what there's there's a there's a

0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 1>definite Um, what's that chain called food chain that iceberg support. Um.

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 1>They bring a lot of iron rich nutrients from the

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.600
<v Speaker 1>land as a gift to the sea, and as they melt,

0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:17.960
<v Speaker 1>they slowly release this stuff. This supports um algae, right,

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:20.560
<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of algae that that grows on

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 1>their krill. These little tiny shrimp like things eat the

0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:26.440
<v Speaker 1>algae um, and then all these other animals eat the krill,

0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and then the birds prey on the other fish that

0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:31.720
<v Speaker 1>are eating the krill. So this whole food chain develops

0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.280
<v Speaker 1>around this iceberg. It's pretty cool. But even even something

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:37.720
<v Speaker 1>that I think they've only recently begun to figure out

0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:41.560
<v Speaker 1>is that icebergs are there a sign of climate chains,

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Like everybody's worried about all the icebergs melting in the

0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 1>sea levels rising, and for good reason. But they're also

0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 1>figuring out that they also aid in carbon sequestration in

0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the ocean. That makes sense. So this algae and all

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 1>this stuff is they're eating this iron. There's a transfer

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 1>of carbon from the land to these uh that this

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.960
<v Speaker 1>life that eventually will die fall down to the bottom

0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:08.640
<v Speaker 1>of the sea and keep the carbon trapped with it,

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:12.119
<v Speaker 1>So algae that wouldn't be there um is soaking up

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 1>carbon and then being eaten and passed along in this

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.240
<v Speaker 1>undersea food chain, and they found that, Um, the carbon

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>absorption around in iceberg is twice what it is elsewhere

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.199
<v Speaker 1>because this algae wouldn't be there if it weren't for

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:28.640
<v Speaker 1>the iceberg. So there it's soaking up the CEO too.

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. Um, but they also take it away what

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 1>icebergs giveth uh and not just boats and chips Like

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that's a tanic there, I said it, Okay, Um, they

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 1>can actually, like I said, they can clog up shipping lanes.

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>They can. In the case of B fifteen, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it actually um had a pretty uh deliterious effect on

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Emperor Penguin's Yeah, in much of the March of the

0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Penguins and they so you know what happens in that

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>sad movie. I guess what. They have to walk around it. Yeah,

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and there's a they really have a tight schedule. When

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:09.639
<v Speaker 1>they hit an iceberg that's you know, taller than the

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>penguins don't fly, remember, and it's really wide, they have

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to go around it. They learn to fly. Yeah, that

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:21.200
<v Speaker 1>would just solve a lot of problems. Um. So yeah,

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it can have negative effects on the little penguins, a

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 1>cute little penguins, and um, it can rake the sea

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 1>floor and just destroy it basically over the course of

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:38.120
<v Speaker 1>many years. No good, no another cool thing. And this

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I couldn't find if they're actually moving

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 1>on this. But the United States military UM called up

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the RAND Corporation said, hey, boy, these things are huge

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>chunks of awesome drinking water, totally safe to drink because

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>it's from the water. Boy. Yeah really I never saw

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 1>that all the way through. That was pretty um it Uh.

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 1>They called the rain corporations said, hey, can we study

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.639
<v Speaker 1>these things? And how viable is it too? I know

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 1>it sounds crazy, but how viable is it to get

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 1>one of these icebergs over here and provide fresh drinking

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>water for people who need it? And it sounds like

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not the most ridiculous idea in the world. Um.

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Their study said that a system allowing a ten percent

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:27.439
<v Speaker 1>yield could provide water for five hundred million people at

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a cost of eight dollars per one thousand cubic meters,

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>which is not too bad. I mean, it's way more

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 1>expensive than it should be, I think, than than we

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:40.879
<v Speaker 1>pay for water now. But our water is artificially cheap,

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:45.120
<v Speaker 1>so as water becomes more expensive, if there's any icebergs left.

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 1>We may want to go do that, And they say,

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess they just nudge it through the water closer

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<v Speaker 1>and closer. Um. And this is where it gets a

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<v Speaker 1>little hinky. It says in the article, using massive insulating

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<v Speaker 1>sheets to slow the melting. I don't know what that

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, but it looks like, um my l are

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<v Speaker 1>like you used to reflect the sun on your car.

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 1>That's what they would use. That's all it'll take, you know,

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>like those um sun blankets or whatever, just something to

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<v Speaker 1>reflect the sun sunlight radiation. Well, it's also moving into

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<v Speaker 1>warmer water that was not gonna melt it from below,

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>or it'll melt it from below for sure. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you protect what you can. I guess, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess if you're harvesting icebergs, you're right, they're not the

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 1>they're not the only ones looking at this. UM. I

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<v Speaker 1>ran across an M I T proposal of building a

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<v Speaker 1>pipeline from Alaska, where there's plenty of glaciers that the

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<v Speaker 1>western US makes sense, but the author concluded it's like

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<v Speaker 1>four and eighty seven billion dollars to build the pipeline

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<v Speaker 1>and keep it going, and that just wouldn't be worth it,

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<v Speaker 1>uh in canals to another Another group studied that and

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<v Speaker 1>suggested a canal well and in the United States have

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<v Speaker 1>exactly hurting for water. It would be nice that they

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<v Speaker 1>did some of these studies and like pushed it to

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<v Speaker 1>where they don't have fresh water right now at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, it's been a little money for them,

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 1>like straws oat. Um, well, I guess we already went over. Well,

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Iceberg Galley is actually a little more interesting. They started

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<v Speaker 1>studying it. They formed the International Ice Patrol uh way

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<v Speaker 1>later than they should have, I guess, but they probably

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the equipment they needed back in the day

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<v Speaker 1>to do what they do now. Um, the Coastguard US

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<v Speaker 1>Coastguard administers it and they worn ships. They kind of

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<v Speaker 1>run it through their little program and say, we think

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<v Speaker 1>this is where it's headed. This is how big it is. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in this area, you might want to watch

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<v Speaker 1>out for this, for this guy floating your way. Well,

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>they basically say, like there's ice up here, don't go

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<v Speaker 1>above this these coordinates. That's called the limit of all

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 1>known ice. Wow. And they the Coast Guard also does

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<v Speaker 1>some other stuff for the I should say the Ice

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<v Speaker 1>Patrol Um, they do other things like um bomb icebergs. Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you find out more about that? No? I looked

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<v Speaker 1>it up on YouTube because I was like, surely somebody's

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>videos everybody dropping obamba and iceberg. I couldn't find anything.

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Plenty of calving stuff. Um. And they also spray paint

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>them with very bright paint, which it seems wrong to me,

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>just so you can see him. Yeah. Yeah, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>tagging like a new car or something, um, a beautiful

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:22.479
<v Speaker 1>new car made by nature, or putting like m radio

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<v Speaker 1>transmitters on them, which makes sense. But then when they

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<v Speaker 1>start to break up, it's like, well, there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>chunk that has the radio transmitting three ft big. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got nothing else? I don't either, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>something else, all right, what you got? So it became um,

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<v Speaker 1>I became interested in the idea of this article mentions

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<v Speaker 1>a nautical mile, sure, well, like why why is there

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<v Speaker 1>a nautical mile in a mile? And I found out why.

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<v Speaker 1>So a nautical mile is um one point one five

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<v Speaker 1>o eight miles And the reason why is because a

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<v Speaker 1>notical mile, when going around the equator, takes into account

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<v Speaker 1>the curvature of the Earth. A regular mile um or

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<v Speaker 1>called a statute mile is what it's called. Goes from

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<v Speaker 1>one point on the map to another through a straight line,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that it's not taking into account the curvature

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<v Speaker 1>of the earth, which means that the nautical mile accurate

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<v Speaker 1>is more accurate and thus a little longer than the

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>regular mile from minute to minute along a degree. So

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<v Speaker 1>a mile is really not a mile. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying on land, huh, no, it's not because it's a

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's like if you take the earth, cut

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<v Speaker 1>in half of the equator and turn it over. You've

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>got the two halves and you're looking in the molten

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>center um and you divide it into three six degrees,

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>divide those degrees in two minutes, and the measure a

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<v Speaker 1>minute to a minute. If you do a straight line,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as accurate. If you do the curve line,

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>it will be accurate. And a kilometer is this way

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<v Speaker 1>out there. And seventeen the French Academy of Sciences said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna designate a kilometers the amount of the length

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<v Speaker 1>the distance from the north pole to the equator through

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Paris divided by ten thousand. Pretty clever. So there you

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<v Speaker 1>have it, Um, nautical miles. I love it. Thanks man,

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<v Speaker 1>I really uh went all out on this one. I

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<v Speaker 1>think so too, kudos sir. Um. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>learn more about icebergs, you can type in that word

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<v Speaker 1>I ce E b r g s in the search

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<v Speaker 1>bars how stuff works dot com and I'll bring up

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<v Speaker 1>this fine, fine article by A Grabowski. Um and I

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<v Speaker 1>said search bar how stuff works, which means it's time

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>for listener mail. Before listener mail quickly. I know we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to Comic Con. Oh, yes, we are. This is exciting,

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>It is very exciting. We've never been San Diego, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Right July twelfth to fifteenth. We will be there, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe on the today. Yeah, and we will be

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<v Speaker 1>presenting and we are not quite sure the deats yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but as we find out, you will find out excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're gonna be there, come see us. Yes,

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>come say hi to us. We're pretty friendly. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be pressing flesh, as they say, hands, baking hands and

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<v Speaker 1>then okay, so I'll be listening, len okay, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>wait again, hold on, yes, uh we have a huge

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>announcement dude. Yeah, um, we are running a pretty cool

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>contest if you asked me, agreed, Chuck. You know how

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>every Halloween we read a short story. So far we've

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>read one by HP Lovecraft, the tune we read Barnice

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>by a ground poet. Well, we thought, hey, why don't

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>we see what our listeners can do. This is your

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<v Speaker 1>brainchild and a great idea, Thank you very much. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're holding a horror fiction contest um by our listeners. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can say and then your submission. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you win, we will read your story as our

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween episode. That's right. Um, let's get down to brass

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<v Speaker 1>tacks here. Here, here's what we're gonna be ranking on

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<v Speaker 1>the scale of one to five in the following categories.

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<v Speaker 1>This has all got to be, you know, on the

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<v Speaker 1>level h interestingness, a plot, awesomeness of characters, well paced pacing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, it's gonna be well paced, scariness, and overall

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<v Speaker 1>quality of writing. And it's actually gonna be a bracket.

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<v Speaker 1>You can follow this. We'll have you r l s

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<v Speaker 1>later for you know where you can follow this bracket

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<v Speaker 1>on the house to work site. Well, so you and

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<v Speaker 1>I are going to judge all the submissions and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna select based on these this criteria the top sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the top sixteen gets put onto the bracket, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's up to everybody to read and vote, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the one that's picked Democratic is number one. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the one that wins. This is I mean, I'm really

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>genuinely excited about this. Yes, Um, In speaking of genuine

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to see genuinely scary stuff. Agreed. Um. I

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want to give too many hints, but if you're

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>creeping into like torture porn territory, you're not going to

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>be impressing anyone with your literary skills. Agreed to get

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 1>get creative. I'm glad you pointed that out. Uh so

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the if you want to submit your stuff, you jump,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to send it to how Stuff Works Underscore

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<v Speaker 1>Contests plural at Discovery dot com. Oh, and to qualify,

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<v Speaker 1>the email has to have the words by participating in

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<v Speaker 1>this contest, I agree to abide by the contest rules.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of mouthful, but um, it has to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the email that you send in your submission with

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<v Speaker 1>and emails that don't have that in it are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be disqualified. I'm afraid. Yes, And what is our limit.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a limit here or character or not word

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<v Speaker 1>limit three thousand to four thousand words and three thousand minimum.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go under disqualified the four thousand maximum. Don't go

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<v Speaker 1>over disqualified. Yeah, we gotta be sticklers on the rules

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>here because it's official, right exactly. Um. So the whole

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>thing starts um, Monday, June eighteenth, and it goes until

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>even pm Friday, July. Okay, you have the within that

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>time to submit your um, your stories, and uh after that,

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<v Speaker 1>after the deadline, sorry, it's closed. I mean you and

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I get to judging. I might submit under a pseudonym

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<v Speaker 1>just for fun. Okay, I don't know if pseudonyms are Okay, no,

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<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, sorry, no pseudonyms allowed, Chuck. Yeah, no,

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:34.399
<v Speaker 1>pseudonym is allowed. Uh. You have to be eighteen to enter,

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's open only to America. It is as usual,

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>one submission per person. Um. We'll post all the rules

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<v Speaker 1>on a blog post and put it on Facebook. Um,

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 1>but that's generally the criteria. So get to writing, see

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>if you can scare our socks off, and um, we

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>look forward to reading. This is gonna be awesome. Yeah,

0:34:55.800 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be really make Halloween wonderful. Wow, there

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<v Speaker 1>we go. Ready, yep, now, I guess it's time for listener. Indeed, Josh,

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this one um good email from a Chicago,

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Chicago guy. That's a terrible Just yesterday, guys, I was

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<v Speaker 1>finished reading a book Robin Dunbar wrote called Grooming, Gossip

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and the Evolution of Language. Her argument is that language

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<v Speaker 1>evolved out of a need to keep up social relationships

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<v Speaker 1>with group members. Put in its most basic form, Over time,

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<v Speaker 1>our brains evolved to be larger, which made our average

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<v Speaker 1>group size increase. At the same time. Once our group

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<v Speaker 1>size became large enough, today our average group size is

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<v Speaker 1>about one. We didn't have enough time in the day

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<v Speaker 1>to groom one on one with that many group members

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<v Speaker 1>to keep up our social bonds with them. So we

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<v Speaker 1>have all language, so we could use language as a

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<v Speaker 1>way to verbally groom with more members at a time

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the group strong. That's interesting. It was my

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>understanding that our brains have actually decreased in size and

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<v Speaker 1>the last years because of group group size, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>increased and we have to rely less on our like

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<v Speaker 1>instincts and run from thunder and stuff like that. I

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>smell a cage match. Um. Another interesting experiment I read

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<v Speaker 1>about is this to Scientists were studying vervet monkeys in

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<v Speaker 1>their natural habitat. They started recording the sounds of the

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<v Speaker 1>vervets um and make notes about what they were doing

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<v Speaker 1>when they made the noise. After examining a large sample

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<v Speaker 1>of noises, they found a correlation between the sound they

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<v Speaker 1>made and what was happening when they made it. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe the noises were difficult to distinguish by the naked

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<v Speaker 1>human ear, but the pattern was obvious when they compared

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<v Speaker 1>large numbers of them together. The verbets made a different

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<v Speaker 1>noise for when an error predator was spotted, when a

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<v Speaker 1>ground predator was spotted, when approaching a dominant male, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not quite language where it like syntax, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>still more advanced than I thought they were. Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty much to hope it wasn't too dense, but

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<v Speaker 1>if it was, and that has revenge for the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>podcast as a listener right there, that's right, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is from Matt Schunk from Chicago. Thanks Matt SHUNKA go bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah seriously, bear. Um. I guess I always like to

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<v Speaker 1>hear about new books that I should be reading. I'm

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>sure like we have any time for that anymore. Did

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.319
<v Speaker 1>you hear that that was a limit? It was? Um

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<v Speaker 1>send us your book recommendation, suck us. You can turn it.

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0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess you'd post it on that um. Or you

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<v Speaker 1>can send us an email good old fashioned electronic mail,

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