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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? Edo state

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Speaker 1: is that? Woo woo and no them and tie be Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubens seen happy Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: Verboller whod Welcome back to the show, my good friend,

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Speaker 2: how goes it today?

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Speaker 1: It's pretty good? I'm always here for Can I call

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Speaker 1: it Who's Day? Because Tuesdays are kind of like Who's Whosday? Right?

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Speaker 1: Who's who? In college football? Who's who in the top twelve?

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Speaker 1: Who's who of the teams that played late on Saturday night?

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Speaker 1: Who's who? As we glance at the standings and talk

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Speaker 1: pig picture, who's who in terms of who's playing interesting

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Speaker 1: games in the week to come? I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: kind of like Who's Whosday? I don't mind it.

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Speaker 2: And today, by the way, huh not a tuesa cruise

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Speaker 2: per se? Okay, people who have listened to the show

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Speaker 2: the twos cruise. It sort of has its own lore

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Speaker 2: in the verballer hood. We're not doing a twos cruise show.

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Speaker 2: We will do one at some point today, though there

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Speaker 2: will be a c slash boat themed game. Okay, great,

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Speaker 2: sort of that we will get into. I promise I

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Speaker 2: will explain in the interim though. Hello, welcome, I'm Ty

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Speaker 2: Dan so a lot to get through today. The Tuesday

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Speaker 2: episodes have been reserved for leftover thoughts, so hot takes

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Speaker 2: that we've got from the weekend that we didn't have

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Speaker 2: a chance to get through on our Saturday night recap episode.

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Speaker 2: We are also going to go through some of the

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Speaker 2: games that we did not get a chance to discuss

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Speaker 2: and recap because they were playing late into the night.

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Speaker 2: We've got a new Verballer Top twelve poll, which I

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Speaker 2: will reveal here momentarily, and then of course we do

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Speaker 2: have that game as well as what is ahead in

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Speaker 2: this week six. We've got a couple of games that

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Speaker 2: we're going to go through that are played on Friday night,

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Speaker 2: including your Oregon Ducks.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait a lot to a reasonable kickoff time? No? Less? Right?

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Speaker 1: Maybe seven pm Central? Is that what I'm looking at?

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Speaker 2: Nine pm Central? Dan, nine Central or nine pm Eastern,

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Speaker 2: eight pm Central, eight pm Central.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's still pushing it for me. I'm very old.

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Speaker 2: We have a new verball Are Top twelve poll for

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Speaker 2: Week six, voted on by our esteemed members of the

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Speaker 2: verbowler hood out at verballers dot com. I also gave

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Speaker 2: out some guest votes across Twitter and some of their

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Speaker 2: social media platforms. Want to try and expand the footprint

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Speaker 1: Yeah, next week we're turning it fully over to the

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Speaker 1: Hollywood foreign press, who obviously gives out the golden globes

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Speaker 2: There is some movement, as you might expect in this

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Speaker 2: top twelve. Let's start with number twelve usc Oh.

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Speaker 1: Nice impressive win against Wisconsin. Comeback really looks strong in

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Speaker 1: the second half. It's not how you start, it's how

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Speaker 2: Continue seeking its way back into this top twelve. Number eleven,

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Speaker 2: Your Michigan Wolverines dance still my top twelve?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yours? Come on? Yeah, yeah, that's me.

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Speaker 2: Number ten Clemson. Clemson Tigers kind of eken their way

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Speaker 2: So Clemson now officially a top ten team.

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Speaker 1: No close calls since that it was, I mean no

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Speaker 2: Number nine Missouri. Missouri's got one of the only really

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Speaker 2: So we'll see if that effects they're ranking it all.

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Speaker 2: But Maszoo hanging on in the top ten. Miszoo's bounced

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Speaker 1: Miszoo was off this past week correct, So the last

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Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. Number eight is Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Penn State, of course, won one of the few ranked

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Speaker 2: But Miami is still at number seven. Your Oregon Ducks

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Speaker 2: now up to number six. Dan, did what Oregon showed

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Speaker 1: Should it have led to them getting a better ranking

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's it was the performance of a

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Speaker 1: I don't think they allowed an offensive touchdown against UCLA.

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Speaker 1: But you're penalizing them for the slow start still or

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Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm waiting for them to go out there

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about Oregon, though held Ashton

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Speaker 2: Number five Georgia Bulldogs Georgia falls in the polls, lost

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Speaker 2: They are not all that penalized here as a result

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Speaker 2: The Tennessee Volunteers hanging tight in this poll at number four.

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Speaker 2: So I voted them number one last week. This week

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Speaker 2: So I'm pretty high in Tennessee. I think we both are.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're this high on the balls

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Speaker 1: Fourth over Jordan right now. Okay. Number three Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: and I would say a distant third behind the top

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Speaker 1: Thirty eight to seven.

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Speaker 2: Some thirty eight seven, yep. Something in that neighborhood looked

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Speaker 2: Alabama Crimson tide mine, yes, of course, and this was

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Speaker 2: really tight if I'm being honest. Texas and Alabama separated

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Speaker 2: Let's say I'm on the verballer hood as for which

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Speaker 2: but Alabama obviously pushing its way up there by virtue

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts on that top twelve, Yeah, I'd have Alabama

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Speaker 1: going to say that Alabama's win over Georgia, given what

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Speaker 1: if ever so slightly. Then Texas has went over Michigan,

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Speaker 1: both excellent wins, but in this moment, to see what

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Speaker 1: Booke ending that game with impressive play. I would give

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Speaker 2: We will, we will, we will reevaluate in four days.

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Speaker 2: For me, actually, I don't have any qualms with this.

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Speaker 2: I think they're the right number of teams. It appears

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Speaker 2: So just in terms of the poll points as we

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Speaker 1: And then after that.

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Speaker 2: that's where I kind of look to, all right, this

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Speaker 2: where to rank some of these teams, anywhere from nine

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Speaker 2: now in this poll is Iowa State. Number fourteen is

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Speaker 2: Number fifteen is Indiana. Indiana has not gotten much love

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Speaker 2: seventeen is Notre Dame, which is actually low as compared

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Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame is a few spots higher.

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Speaker 2: But those five teams right now are kind of like

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Speaker 2: the next best among the voting public here in the verballerhood.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate everybody voting.

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Speaker 1: In this poll.

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Speaker 2: But had more votes than ever. It seems as if

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Speaker 1: It's great. Ty. You're a comically wealthy dude, and when

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. Is there a different bet for you?

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Speaker 2: That's sort of the headliner. Give us your feedback, sliver

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Speaker 1: Should we travel back in time? Dan Rubinstein, I would

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Speaker 1: Ashton Gent is ridiculous, smashed him. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: a big home win. Wazoo ranked again, Yes, Boise number

437
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Speaker 1: twenty five now yeah, yeah, number twenty five. All right.

438
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Speaker 2: So with all that being said, those are some of

439
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 2: the games that we did not have a chance to discuss.

440
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Speaker 2: We do have some lingering thoughts. I know, you always

441
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Speaker 2: come armed with a bunch of them.

442
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

443
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Speaker 2: The only bit of news that I would throw out

444
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Speaker 2: here at this point is that Purdue fired Graham Harrell,

445
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 2: so the offensive coordinator. He is, you know, among the

446
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: first big names to go here in the early part

447
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 2: of the season. Not a head coach, but the offense

448
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 2: at Purdue had really been in a bad spot. And

449
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: this is not exactly a surprise given the state of affairs.

450
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Speaker 2: So we will see which direction they decide to go next.

451
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Speaker 2: We have our guy Eric out onverballers dot Com has

452
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Speaker 2: been sending us a few thoughts on the matter. He's

453
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Speaker 2: deep on the Perdue message boards and whatnot, so we'll

454
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Speaker 2: see if any of that stuff comes true. But they're

455
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Speaker 2: looking for a new guy to call their plays, and

456
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Speaker 2: if you've watched Perdue football, it makes a lot of sense.

457
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Speaker 2: So with that being said, from a news standpoint as

458
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Speaker 2: you think back to Week five, would have still bounce

459
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Speaker 2: around in your head.

460
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Speaker 1: Well, everybody through interceptions, it seemed everybody hit sixty yard

461
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Speaker 1: field goals randomly. I saw Texas State's dude Louisville obviously,

462
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Speaker 1: you saw in the Notre Dame game. Me it like

463
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Speaker 1: a fifty six yarder. I want to say, do you

464
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: want to quit this podcast? You want to quit this

465
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Speaker 1: podcast now and just focus solely on doing some sort

466
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Speaker 1: of deep dive on how college kickers suddenly got this good.

467
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Speaker 1: I'd worry about making too much money as somebody solely

468
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Speaker 1: researching college football kickers on each How did this happen?

469
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Speaker 2: It's not just college, by the way, it's the NFL. Yeah,

470
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: anything outside fifty is now routine. Some of us are

471
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Speaker 2: old enough to remember when that was a crapshoot, when

472
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Speaker 2: it felt like it was not a certainty. Even at

473
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Speaker 2: the NFL level. These guys are going to make that.

474
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Speaker 2: That was a big deal. Now it's like if you

475
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Speaker 2: don't make it, you're shunned.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if there's some sort of micro change that

477
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Speaker 1: kickers have made in the way that, like, you know,

478
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Speaker 1: the high jump was executed a certain way forever then

479
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Speaker 1: was the Fosberry flop? Was that when going over sort

480
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Speaker 1: of backwards, like something changed in the way that kickers train,

481
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Speaker 1: that kickers think that kickers aimed, and everybody's doing that

482
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Speaker 1: same thing, like the euro step, like the you know,

483
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Speaker 1: NBA moves are evolving over time. I wonder if you

484
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Speaker 1: would have to be in that universe to understand why

485
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Speaker 1: kickers are more powerful and more accurate from deep But

486
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Speaker 1: otherwise I just love seeing it. I think you know

487
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Speaker 1: that the narrative has changed from college kickers to hey,

488
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Speaker 1: college kickers. It's pretty great. It is pretty great, you know,

489
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Speaker 1: and I'm all for it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, for as fun as the

491
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Speaker 2: joke is about the college kickers, college kickers going from

492
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Speaker 2: the joke and the punchline to now suddenly a weapon,

493
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Speaker 2: a big weapon if guys are kicking these sixty yarders,

494
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Speaker 2: I don't know, that's a cool story. That's something in

495
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Speaker 2: college football to feel good about.

496
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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about the Penn State offense

497
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Speaker 1: because we didn't really touch on this game all that much.

498
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Speaker 1: Does it seem like they can throw? Illinois has a

499
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Speaker 1: decent enough defense. Maybe did they prove anything to you

500
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: in terms of establishing themselves as a legit contender because

501
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: of offensive advancement.

502
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 2: So getting the ground game to the point that it

503
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: can be used against the defense like Illinois in that

504
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: spot is I think the first.

505
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Speaker 1: Thing that I need to bench. I know you won't

506
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Speaker 1: know about.

507
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 2: The passing game, but yeah, getting that ground game back

508
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: to where it should have been last year is only

509
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: going to help Drew Aller agree, because last year they

510
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: didn't have any explosivity in the in the rushing attack

511
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Speaker 2: at all. It was bad, and they have explosive runners,

512
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Speaker 2: So that tells me it was either line or play

513
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Speaker 2: calling or some combination of the two. That has not

514
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Speaker 2: been a problem thus far. Andy kotal Nikki has done

515
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Speaker 2: a good job kind of unlocking that side of the

516
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Speaker 2: rushing attack. So with that being said, I do think

517
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Speaker 2: Drew Allerd progressively look more comfortable as a thrower in

518
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Speaker 2: this offense. They are still not necessarily taking gigantic shots

519
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 2: down the field, but I have noticed for sure he

520
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: is a little bit more comfortable stepping up into the pocket.

521
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Speaker 2: He's a little bit more comfortable making reads. He doesn't

522
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Speaker 2: look like a deer in headlights back there like he

523
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Speaker 2: did at.

524
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Speaker 1: Maybe he forgot one element of it. Does he look

525
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Speaker 1: more comfortable throwing the ball and getting balls caught by

526
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Speaker 1: his receiver? I think so. I think so.

527
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Speaker 2: I mean there are still moments, and I've said this before,

528
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Speaker 2: Drew Aller is still, relative to his peers as pretty

529
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Speaker 2: green as a quarterback. He picked up the position late.

530
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Speaker 2: He is still very much learning on the job. Even

531
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Speaker 2: though he was a consensus five star, right, that's.

532
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Speaker 1: Just the reality.

533
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Speaker 2: He was kind of raw coming into Penn State, and

534
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Speaker 2: we saw that, I think in a lot of points

535
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: last season. Even though his stat line by a large

536
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: is pretty good, he was responsible with the football. But

537
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Speaker 2: this season, it does seem as if he's got more confidence.

538
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: It seems as if he's got more command of the offense.

539
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Speaker 2: And though there have been some of those moments where

540
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 2: he is missing guys or throwing behind them or kind

541
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Speaker 2: of reverting back to the form that we saw in

542
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Speaker 2: spots last sear and it does seem like they have

543
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: taken a jump forward. What I would add though to that,

544
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: even though I remain optimistic, is we have still to

545
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: see a breakout performance in the passing game, and I

546
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: feel like that truly is the next step for this offense.

547
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: They've got the ground game back to where I think

548
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: it needs to stay for the remainder of the season

549
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 2: if they want to be a playoff team. But if

550
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: they really want to make a push for this thing now,

551
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 2: they need to unlock the passing game. They're starting to

552
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: find ways to use Ty Warren their tight end. I

553
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: talked about that on the recap show. They're using him creatively,

554
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: about other guys in this team that they're using creatively.

555
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: They're trying to find ways to get these guys open

556
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: and use them, put them in space, essentially, find ways

557
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: for them to be contributors on this offense. The question though,

558
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: about Drew Aller and can he throw the ball thirty

559
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: five times and win a game or thirty five times

560
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: and put up a good stat line against a really

561
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Speaker 2: solid defense. We just have not seen that yet, So

562
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Speaker 2: I'm cautiously optimistic at this point.

563
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Speaker 1: Are they closer to Ohio State than you thought they'd

564
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Speaker 1: be at this moment or about it? It's hard to say.

565
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: It's hard to say, you know, because Ohio State really,

566
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 2: outside of this game that we saw this past week

567
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: ad against Michigan State, I have a hard time gauging

568
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: where they're at. I'm still going mostly on what I

569
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: thought in the preseason, which is they're loaded at every

570
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: position and they're going to be an absolute killer. That's

571
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: my assumption coming into this season with Ohio State Penn State.

572
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: I think has looked solid defensively. I think they have

573
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: looked better offensively by that measure.

574
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Speaker 1: I don't think defense is going to be the question.

575
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Speaker 1: I mean, whatever, the defense maybe has changed this year,

576
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Speaker 1: but that coming into the season with what they've looked like,

577
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Speaker 1: you know, last season on defense, I mean, they scored

578
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: fourteen points until the last minute against Illinois, right.

579
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was I'm telling you it was a

580
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: lopsided win. It was a lopside of win. Separate from

581
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Speaker 2: the score. I mean they I understay what you're saying.

582
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: I said, it absolutely was.

583
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: It absolutely was.

584
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: It didn't feel like Illinois had much of a of

585
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: a chance in that game, at least down the stretch.

586
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: So the defense was in my mind a little bit

587
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: more of a question this season because there was some

588
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: turnover and there's a new coach, and you know, there

589
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: was a slight scheme shift and they put abdual Carter

590
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: in a different position. Like, there were some changes that

591
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: they made that, you know, I think by a large

592
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 2: been okay. But offensively speaking, that is the part of

593
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: this team that I think needs to continue moving forward

594
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: before they get really chip away at Ohio State. I

595
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: just don't I don't have enough data at this point

596
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: to answer that with any kind of confidence.

597
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, Man, you gotta score, you just gotta score. Whatever.

598
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: However lopsided it felt fourteen points until two minutes left

599
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: in the game, It's probably not enough depending on what

600
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: your team's expectations are. The next question I had for

601
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: you is how closely did you watch Michigan State Ohio State?

602
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: Because I didn't in the moment and went and rewatched

603
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: all of it this morning, and man, oh man, whatever

604
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: Michigan State is, Ohio State is so free and good. Yeah,

605
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith with the one handed catch or catch is

606
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: down the sideline. The interesting thing about Michigan State is

607
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: I thought the game plan was pretty good to try

608
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: and stretch Ohio State horizontally a little bit with play

609
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: action and find some tight ends. And like they actually

610
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: did generate a couple of really interesting explosion plays that

611
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: ended in fumbles right deep in Ohio State territory, and

612
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: so look not to say that Michigan State like was

613
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: a couple of like bad bounces literal bounces away from

614
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: being in this game, because just good teams are able

615
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: to take advantage, and Ohio State took advantage constantly of

616
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: Michigan State errors. But man, like you have to play

617
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: it seems because Michigan State again the game planned well,

618
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: I thought, they just don't have the guys. You have

619
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: to play kind of a perfect game. You can't drop

620
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: the ball. You have to get off the field. You

621
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: have to get to Will Howard like you have to

622
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: check eleven to thirteen boxes to have a chance. And

623
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Speaker 1: I'm obviously thinking about this looking through you know, my

624
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: green and yellow goggles. But Ohio State seems at the

625
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: moment without playing an upper tier opponent, like you need

626
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: to be a finished product who also gets a little

627
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: bit lucky to have a shot against the b It

628
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: seems right now.

629
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my thought in watching that game, and

630
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: you may have watched it closer than me, I'm just

631
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: blown away by their skill position. Yeah, their guy, their

632
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: roster skill position guys is incredible, and they just keep

633
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: coming at you. I think Will Howard has been a

634
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: nice addition. I mean, he has certainly not been a disappointment,

635
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: which in the world of transfer quarterbacks is definitely a plus,

636
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: especially the year that we've seen with transfer quarterbacks this

637
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: year where they hit about fifty percent of the time.

638
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: Will Howard's been fine in that offense. He has not

639
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: really given them any kind of.

640
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: Problems.

641
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: So I think from that standpoint, just his ability to

642
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: distribute the ball and get it to the right people.

643
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith, what have you? Oh, yeah, that has been

644
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: an effective swap.

645
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm curious about what this line looks like, the offensive

646
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: line against better fronts than what they've seen thus far.

647
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: Can I ask you another question, Ty sure? Are you

648
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: a fan of horror movies? Horror movies not horror movies?

649
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: Not me either, not I But there is something I

650
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: know some of the horror movie, like the older horror

651
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: movie tropes where it's like you see what's happening before

652
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: the protagonist does, right, Like don't go in that lake.

653
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Steve, don't go in that lake, like

654
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: you know not Toe always goes in the lake. Steve

655
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: always goes in the lake. Yeah. When I watch Taylor

656
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: Green in the pocket, and I see the pass rush

657
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: unfolding behind him, in front of him, in his face,

658
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: but he doesn't seem too soon enough. It gives me

659
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: those feelings of watching a horror movie. It's been a

660
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: minute since I've seen a quarterback struggle with feel pass

661
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: rush feel in the way that Taylor Green does, or

662
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: at least did against Texas A and M that like, Nope,

663
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: don't step into the pocket, it's not gonna go well,

664
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: don't roll out to your left. I just I see

665
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: what's happening here. And he is an otherworldly raw talent

666
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: to me, Taylor Green. And there's a lot to really

667
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: like about where Arkansas has improved on both sides of

668
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: the ball this year. But I assume there's a lot

669
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: of sleep nights for Sam Pittman and Bobby Patrino right

670
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: now figuring out what they can do to help him,

671
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: because there are moments where it seems like he can't

672
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: help himself. Yeah.

673
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: I think that's a really good synopsis, actually, because I

674
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: jotted down some notes here about that A and m

675
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: Arkansas game. Yeah, which was really a game that came

676
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: down in moments if you went back and watched it.

677
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 2: I mean the Hogs held onto a lead into the

678
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: fourth quarter and did a really good job holding down

679
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: A and M on the ground, especially Le'Veon Moss, but

680
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: there was a sequence where he ripped off.

681
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: I think I saw forty six yards on three straight carries.

682
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that, which eventually set up the game

683
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: winning drive. They also got a nice showing here when

684
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: it counted in crunch time from Nick s Gorton. They're

685
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: pretty transfer forced a key fumble with about a minute

686
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 2: and thirty left as Arkansas was trying to mount its

687
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: own game winning drive.

688
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: So A and M.

689
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: I think A and M needs to get Connor Wegman

690
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: back asap in order to achieve whatever ceiling they have

691
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: this season. Marcel reads three and oh, and he's three

692
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: and oh. He's been fine, He's been okay. I probably

693
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: was a little too high on Marcel Reid when we

694
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: discussed it on one of our previous episodes. And he's

695
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: been okay, hasn't lost a game, so.

696
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: You'll I think he definitely he has more feel than

697
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: Taylor Green in this moment. Oh yeah, I don't think

698
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: he's a ten win SEC quarterback in this moment, but

699
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: he was sort of thrust into action as a younger

700
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: player and is somebody who can make plays but has

701
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: a pretty obvious ceiling right now.

702
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: Right now he does. I'm curious to see if Wagman

703
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: is back this week. This game against Miszoo is going

704
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: to be very telling on both sides. Yeah, you alluded

705
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: to it when we talked about Baller Top twelve, Paul.

706
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: Where Maszoo is at right now at nine. But I

707
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: think that's going to be a telling game. And I

708
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: kind of like where A and M's headed. It feels

709
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: to me like there is momentum behind this team right

710
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: now to win a game like this. This is a

711
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: tough win against a team in Arkansas who you're you're

712
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: spot on with what you say about Taylor Green. They're

713
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: tough out, you know are They're a tough out. They

714
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: have five ranked SEC teams left on their schedule, four

715
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: of which are at home. They're gonna knock one of

716
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: them off. I don't know who they're gonna knock one

717
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 2: of them off because they are just in it full

718
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: sixty minutes every time.

719
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: So I like that They had the punt of the

720
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: year maybe by the way against the end of the year.

721
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: See that it was a glitch punt like middle of

722
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: the field, darted straight to the right out at like

723
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: the eight inch line. That almost set up a win

724
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: for Arkansas with that kind of field position. Incredible.

725
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: So both teams here, I think are very very interesting

726
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: to chart for the remis of the season.

727
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, A and M. My only note on A and

728
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: M right now in a positive way is whoever is

729
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 1: playing against A and M have a B and C plan,

730
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: because at a certain point in the middle of the

731
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: second quarter, Mike Elco and whoever he's talking to on

732
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: that headset are going to figure out your game plan

733
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: and adjust pretty quickly. There's a reason Mike Elco just

734
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: exclusively has strong defenses everywhere he goes, and it's the

735
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: abilit to sort of calculate and compute as the game

736
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: goes on and be like, all right, let's just you know,

737
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: let's move over to this cover three look whatever most

738
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: of the time. And they seem to just completely lock

739
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: down Arkansas after quarter quarter and a half on offense

740
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: and got the pass rush going. You know, it seemed

741
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: like it was if Arkansas was able to get something

742
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: going on offense, it was barely playing this A and

743
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: M defense. So have A plan, B and C, because

744
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: this A and M defense seems like they are they're

745
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: morphing over the course of a game.

746
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question or two if

747
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: I can, please. We didn't talk a whole lot about

748
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 2: Boston College this past weekend because they played Western Kentucky.

749
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: They played it with a backup court. No Castellanos. Yeah,

750
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: no Castellanos.

751
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: But by virtue of the fact that BC is four

752
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: and one, how seriously or not seriously.

753
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: Do you take Boston College at this point? I just

754
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: appreciate them for what they are and not what they're

755
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: not right now, and what they are is an acc

756
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: team that can be dangerous. I don't take them crazy

757
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: seriously in the moment. Probably going to need to see

758
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: more consistent through the air stuff from them. But I

759
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: don't have their schedule in front of me in the moment,

760
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: but I have it in front of me.

761
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: I mean, we can start calling them secretly decent BC

762
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 2: if we want.

763
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: Okay, we can remain speaking by Western Kentucky, right is.

764
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: They needed fourteen unanswered in the fourth quarter with a

765
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: backup because, as you said, Casianos did not play. But

766
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: we've been talking about this team for a while now

767
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: at least one member of the broadcasting dynamic duo, Yeah,

768
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: has been talking about them since what July. Yeah, I

769
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: was pretty high in on this team. So they're four and one.

770
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: They've got Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Syracuse, SMU, UNC, and

771
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: Pitt still on the schedule. If you look forward and

772
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: check out the projections for each of those games, With

773
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: the exception of Louisville, which they're projected to lose that

774
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 2: one handily, nearly every other game is a one score affair. Now,

775
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 2: this is not to say BC's gonna win all those games.

776
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: I don't think they will.

777
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: But the fact that we're here with this team and

778
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: the fact that they can win a knife fight like

779
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: they did even against Western Kentucky, it doesn't matter to

780
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: me they were down, guys. This is a strong endorsement

781
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: of Bill O'Brien as a coach. This is something that

782
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: I think he is doing to this team. He is

783
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: building a culture, He is giving them this confidence that

784
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: they can win a game like this when it felt

785
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: like they were down and out for a good chunk

786
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: of this game.

787
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: O great. So I'm pretty high on BC. Again. I

788
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: think I'm with you.

789
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to get too far out over my

790
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 2: skis and start predicting ten and two or anything crazy.

791
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: But this is a story in college football that we

792
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: have been on since the very beginning and that I

793
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: think we are seeing on full more with each passing week.

794
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: This is a dangerous team. This is dangerous enough team.

795
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: If you are not on your game, they will beat you.

796
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: And when they get Thomas Castellanas back, they're going to

797
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: be all the better for it. And these teams that

798
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: are on their schedule, they can beat most of them.

799
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: Frankly, they can. They're going to go to a bowl.

800
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: It's going to be a good story.

801
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: I'm just curious to see how high, how far Bill

802
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: O'Brien can take this thing.

803
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Big twelve is wide open. It

804
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: seems like we have a good concept for SEC and

805
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: Big ten hierarchy ish. Maybe the ACC is probably the

806
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: most fascinating when you take Virginia Tech, Florida State, NC State,

807
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: and maybe North Carolina Ish. It's an evaluating It's the

808
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: Boulevard of broken dreams. Man, That's what the ACC is.

809
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: This year, it seems like four of the top I

810
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: don't know, seven or eight teams we thought of this

811
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: conference in August have showed complete, if not partial, flaws

812
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: in their ability to win games. And so I don't know.

813
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: I think the door is open. And yes, you want

814
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: to say it's Syracuse, you want to say it's PIT.

815
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: You want to say it's Virginia, you want to say

816
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: it's BC. Whatever, the door is open. For a team

817
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: built like a five point three win team to win eight,

818
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: now that's pretty great.

819
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: My final question for you is how closely you've been

820
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: paying attention to Iowa State. I was, especially on the ground,

821
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: especially on the ground. Yeah, because last two weeks they've

822
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: started to run the ball a lot better.

823
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: That was the issue. First two weeks.

824
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: It was like, Okay, you're looking at the box score,

825
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: you're watching these games and it's like, well like abu sama.

826
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: But as a team, they're still rushing for less than

827
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: ninety yards whatever it was against North Dakota and Iowa.

828
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: This is two straight weeks now where they're about two

829
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: forty as.

830
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: Arkansas State and Houston a combined record of I get it,

831
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: not incredible, but they didn't do much against North Dakota

832
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: of all teams. Right, So the.

833
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: Fact that now they are kind of finding their legs

834
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: under them. A more balanced version of this Iowa State

835
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: team has a great shot to win the Big Twelve. Dan.

836
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: You could say what you want about the ACC being interesting,

837
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: I still think the Big Twelve is the most interesting conference.

838
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 2: I am enamored with the Big Twelve this season.

839
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I love it.

840
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: I love everything about it because there are suddenly a

841
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: number of teams that you could squint and say, you know,

842
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: if this whole thing goes in a blender, we could

843
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: see it coming out Colorado. I mean, really, who knows.

844
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot here that feels up in the air

845
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: right now. Though Iowa State has a twenty percent chance

846
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: of winning the conference, which is higher than BYU, they

847
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: also have a twenty six percent shot of making the playoff,

848
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: which is the highest in the.

849
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: Conference so per the ESPN FPI. For whatever you make

850
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: of that, the top two teams in the conference.

851
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: Are Iowa State, BYU or Iowa State and k State,

852
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 2: depending on which metric you're looking at. Those three teams

853
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: right now are the ones that have at least risen

854
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: to the surface in terms of the advanced numbers. But

855
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: I really like the way that Iowa State is trending.

856
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 1: Look, if they're starting point right now as they get

857
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: into the non Houston part of their Big Twelve schedule,

858
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: if their starting point one game in is likely having

859
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: the best defense in the conference, I don't know, it

860
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: gives them a pretty significant lake up in winning the conference.

861
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think so. Any other stray

862
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: thoughts before we move on, Yeah, hold on, let me

863
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: look at my I didn't write it down on my

864
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: legal pad. If you're watching on MTV de Portes, Tulane

865
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: is growing. Man, Tulane is quietly growing. I know they've

866
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: lost twice already, but in terms of what they can

867
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: do in the American yep, I'm pretty in right now

868
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: with that. After that win, you would mentioning Big twelve.

869
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: We mentioned it on the show TCU Kansas, but Kansas

870
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: is one in four. Yeah, Kansas is one in four.

871
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: Agree year that hasn't been great. Other stray, other stray,

872
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we mentioned the Duke and maybe you have

873
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: something about Duke that we're going to get into momentarily.

874
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: I'll talk about them momentarily. Yeah, they were they downt

875
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: twenty to nothing. It's North Carolina. Before coming back, they

876
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: were down a considerable margin. I don't remember if it

877
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: was twenty, but they won twenty one twenty. Also in

878
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: that that mode of probably built like a five or

879
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: six win team could win eight or nine looking at

880
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: their schedule right now. Though I didn't love that they

881
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: fell behind to North Carolina twenty to nothing. Wyoming won

882
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: a game beat air Force, who seems to have fallen

883
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: off pretty significantly in a year that, unfortunately for the

884
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: Commander in Chief trophy. Army and Navy are looking quite

885
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: strong thus far. It's Navy Air Force Week. I believe

886
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: Navy Air Force Week coming up. Okay, great, those are

887
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 1: my thoughts, So.

888
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: Look out it for bowlers dot com if you're sign

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00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: up as a premium for Baller. One of the posts

890
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: that we make on every Sunday morning is we ask

891
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: people not just to vote in the for Baller Top

892
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 2: twelve that goes without saying, but because their premium for Baller,

893
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: because you support the show at that level, we want

894
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: to get your input as to what what should we.

895
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: Talk about on this episode. We're going to give our

896
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: straight thoughts.

897
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: We're going to give you a brief look ahead at

898
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: what is to come, and we six, but what else

899
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: should we focus on what else should we put our

900
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: energy into.

901
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: To give you bang for the buck.

902
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: So this one here from John Okay goes which players

903
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: or units and I've added, or teams or stats are

904
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: flying under the radar so far this year. He says,

905
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: like a head's up for those of us who can't

906
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: watch a ton of games to put certain teams on

907
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: our viewing schedule to make sure we don't miss out

908
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: on or to make sure that we are getting our

909
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: fill of under reported excellence so we can be cool

910
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: college football hipsters and tell our friends that we were

911
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: all in on Blake Corvoth or fluff bothwell.

912
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: Before it was cool. Love my guy, fluff, fluff your fluff. Yeah,

913
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: excuse me.

914
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: So we also got another comment about that to the

915
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: point of under the radar, So I thought maybe we

916
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 2: would take a little bit of an under the radar

917
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: feel to this one here.

918
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 1: What is this from?

919
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: That's from the Hunt for Red October, which, as you

920
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: know on this show, for the years now, we've been

921
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: doing the Hunt for Red b October. Yeah, I guess

922
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: it could be October now with rock O Beckt if

923
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 2: we wanted to go in that direction.

924
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that has been sort of trademarked by every

925
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: single average FM station that has thrown a festival at

926
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Speaker 1: like the the sing Wireless Pavilion, Bush Fuel of Sevenfold

927
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: October Yeah, with installations from Maple Tequila.

928
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: Those promos always include the term anything Goes in October. Yeah,

929
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: come on out, it's in Anything Goes Weekend at the

930
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: Singular Wireless Pavilion.

931
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: The Singular Wireless Pavilion. Of course, these are under the

932
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: radar things. Meet and greet starts at six. The VIP

933
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: ten is all you can snack.

934
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: Do we want to quit the podcast and just focus

935
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: on doing FM promos, Yeah, way more lucrative.

936
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: Continue.

937
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: These are under the radar players and teams and stats

938
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: and college football things that are not getting enough love.

939
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: You mentioned Duke mm HM to common person. We did

940
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: seem person it was underwhelming, okay underwhelming. The weather was horrible,

941
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: but it was underwhelming against Northwestern. They won that game

942
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: in overtime. But Duke's five and oh and nobody has

943
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: taken them seriously at this point. I think because you

944
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: look at the strength of schedule to date, it's one

945
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: hundred and ninth in the country, so it's not like

946
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 2: they've played the stiffs of competition before the season, though,

947
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: this schedule on the whole looked like it was going

948
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: to be a gauntlet, And to your point about the

949
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: acc we look at it now. I look at it now,

950
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: I feel much differently. Georgia Tech, Florida State, SMU, Miami,

951
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: NC State, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest. Those are seven games

952
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: right there. Georgia Tech's not bad, Florida State's down bad,

953
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: SMU maybe getting better, we'll see. We know Miami's good,

954
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: but NC State's beatable, Virginia Tech's beatable, wake Forest is beatable. Currently,

955
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: at time of recording, there is a twenty five percent

956
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: chance that Duke finishes ten and two or better this season. Yeah,

957
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, most of those games are coin flips.

958
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: It's a very much a Boston College situation. But if

959
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 2: you're playing the numbers strictly playing the numbers, twenty five

960
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: percent chance. Again, has not been a tough slate of

961
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: opponents thus far, but they are playing really sound defense,

962
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: which is what you would hope from a team that's

963
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: coached by Manny Diaz.

964
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: They have done that.

965
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: I do think at some point there will be a

966
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: moment this season where it catches up to them that

967
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: their offense is lagging as bad as it is. Okay,

968
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 2: is not a horrible but the offense is certainly lagging

969
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: the defense. That said, there is going to be a

970
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: moment when people are filling out their bowl pools later

971
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: this year where you're going through it and you see

972
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: Duke playing, you know, the Minikey Carcare Bowl wherever, and

973
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: you squint and say, wait, Duke went nine and three.

974
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: Yep.

975
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: Really, that's the kind of season they're having. I'm not

976
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: gonna win the ACC. I don't believe they're going to

977
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: go ten to two, but Duke is going to finish

978
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: with a better record than most people thought coming into

979
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: this year having lost a ton and I mean a

980
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: ton from last season, not just the coach, but Riley

981
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: Leonard rj Oben, like they lost all Jordan Waters left.

982
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: A lot of guys walked out that door, many ds

983
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: stepping in, perhaps in a flawed ACC but playing good

984
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: defense at five and zero. Right now, they're going to

985
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: go to a bowl game. And it's been one of

986
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 2: the better stories in college football that I don't think

987
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: enough people are talking about right now.

988
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: So two players in this sports have double digit tackles

989
00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: for loss. Okay, two players, two FBS players have double

990
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: digit tackles for loss and they are both in the

991
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: Buffalo linebacking corps. I can't say I've watched a ton

992
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: of Buffalo this year. They got who do they get

993
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: destroyed by? This week? I think Buffalo won this week.

994
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: Didn't they They destroyed somebody or they got destroyed? Please

995
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: fact checked for me. I thought they lost by like

996
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 1: a considerable margin. Okay, well check that continue. Sean Dolac

997
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: and Red Murdoch, great name, unbelievable. It sounds like a

998
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: buddy cop movie. Yeah. I just wanted to shout that

999
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: out because I always enjoyed that, Like weird. Is it

1000
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: still in Orlando? The awards ceremony, the College Football Award ceremony, yea,

1001
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: because I don't know they're very much in it for

1002
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: something in this moment. I just love that Khalil mack

1003
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: went there. And now there are two players putting up

1004
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: cartoonish numbers for the Buffalo defense. The other thing is

1005
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: Harold Fan and may have the Mackie Award locked up

1006
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: in September. He's fourth or fifth in the nation in

1007
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: receiving yardage.

1008
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: You can't include hold on, you can't use Harold Fannin

1009
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: because you've been talking him up every episode. I'm not

1010
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: done either in the last three weeks, Harold Fannin, you're

1011
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: the Harold Fannin fan club president.

1012
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: I think you have to put in a little more

1013
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: work with the Mighty Falcons of Bowling Green to get

1014
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: people's attention.

1015
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

1016
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: Their schedule has included both Texas A and M and

1017
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: Penn State, who he both he against whom, yeah, against

1018
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: whom he dominated each time. Unstoppable against two of the

1019
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: better defenses, regardless of you know, conference level whatever in America,

1020
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: A and M and Penn State. Harold Fannin an unstoppable

1021
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: force and should be known high and wide. Yeah. By

1022
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: the way, Buffalo lost forty seven to three to Yukon.

1023
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and Yukon, by the way, winning games, winning games, Yeah,

1024
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: Jamara Junior winning games.

1025
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: You're not wrong, You're not wrong. Who else you have

1026
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: under the radar? Any team? Anybody? Yeah? The unit Louisville's

1027
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: defensive line. Yeah. So if you look at.

1028
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: FPI projection stuff like that, if you care right now,

1029
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: Louisville is a clear third wheel in the ACC. It

1030
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: just in terms of winning the conference, making the playoff

1031
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: eighteen percent chance at the conference twenty two percent chance

1032
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: of the playoff. Yes, we have barely talked about them

1033
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: because they didn't play anyone of note until last week

1034
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: with that game against Notre Dame, but thus far a

1035
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: top thirty offense, a top twenty defense.

1036
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: Mind you.

1037
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: I said in the previews, this is going to be

1038
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: a really good defensive front. It's going to be a

1039
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 2: team led by defense, so they get their offense sorted out.

1040
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 2: I feel like that project has taken flight a little

1041
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 2: bit quicker than expected. We shouldn't be surprised if Jeff

1042
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: brom he's a good coach, but the defense has been there. Yes,

1043
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: I just wanted to call out the defense again here

1044
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: because they're doing something that won't get headlines but definitely

1045
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: could play a factor once they play Miami and Clempson,

1046
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: both of whom are on the schedule. Mind you, here's

1047
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: what's interesting. Okay, I'm ready one hundred and fourth nationally

1048
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: in blitzes per dropback. They don't blitz that much, okay,

1049
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: but thirty first in sacks per dropback? So what does

1050
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: that mean? The TLDR, as the kids say, means they've

1051
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: got a good front. It means they're getting pressure without blitzing.

1052
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: And that's interesting if you project forward, because remember kid

1053
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: Klubnik has a history of being mistake prone. If there's

1054
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: a defense that can get pressure on him but still

1055
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: play coverage against whoever is out wide for Clemson, that's

1056
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: an interesting scenario for Louisville. Likewise, cam Ward master improviser

1057
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: right those all sorts of crazy things, also has a

1058
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: couple boneheaded mistakes in him. We've seen that too. Can

1059
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 2: they get pressure on him? Can they do so without blitzing?

1060
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 2: Drop people back and not give him those open throwing lanes.

1061
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: Do not be surprised if Louisville beats one of those teams.

1062
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: And I think if they do, I mean, obviously offense

1063
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 2: would have a part to play in that, but if

1064
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: they do, the biggest reason why is that is because

1065
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 2: of that front and their ability to changed the point

1066
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: of attack without having to bring extra numbers. I just

1067
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 2: think that's interesting. Is something to chart.

1068
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, Can I give you a team from

1069
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: the American that's worth the glancing at two to three times?

1070
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: The mean Green of North Texas Tire are four and one.

1071
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: They have the clear best quarterback in the conference, at

1072
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: least statistically in this moment. Chandler Morris, longtime college football quarterback,

1073
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: started his career at Oklahoma. I believe, son of Chad Morris,

1074
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: moved on to TCU, didn't work out there. He's now

1075
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: playing in beautiful debt in Texas for the mean Green

1076
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 1: of North Texas. They're putting points up. They got destroyed

1077
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: by Texas Tech, like real quickly. It was real ugly,

1078
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: was the flash Fry. But they beat South Alabama, which

1079
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: is a pretty good win to start the season. I

1080
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: don't think in any of their wins a team has

1081
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: come within single digits of North Texas, right, just pay

1082
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: attention to it in a conference that seems decently wide open.

1083
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: Their schedule is decent moving forward. Their defense has gotten

1084
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: to be below average, which if you watched North Texas

1085
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: last year, that is a massive improve. It's a huge

1086
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: up bath last year. Eric Morris, North Texas winning some

1087
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: games this year, they're gonna win eight or nine. It's

1088
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: pretty great.

1089
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, that's actually a perfect segue into this. Okay,

1090
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: I went through the PFS PFF passer grades and I

1091
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: had to classify this. I had to word this by

1092
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: saying the top five starting quarterbacks in the Power four

1093
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: because Chandler Morris is I think number five?

1094
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now?

1095
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 2: Would you like to take a guess on the top

1096
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: five graded Power four quarterbacks?

1097
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: The top five Power four graded quarterbacks? Yes? Is r

1098
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: T one of them?

1099
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: No?

1100
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: Does he qualify or not? Enough snaps? I did.

1101
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he qualifies with the filter that I

1102
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: had on here. So I was looking at guys that

1103
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: have played let's say three games or more. Will Howard No, well,

1104
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: Howard is doing okay. Dylan Gabriel, Dylan Gabriel is about tenth.

1105
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: He's about tenth. Jalen Milroe Jalen Milroe is fourth by

1106
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: this measure. Carson Beck Nope, Kate Club Nick Nope.

1107
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: Here's what we got, okay, Jacklex Georgy Jackson Alex Orgie

1108
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: has definitely didn't make it. He might be on the

1109
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: running back list, okay. Jackson Dart is one. Okay, Well,

1110
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 2: cam Ward is two.

1111
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Shador Sanders is three, also makes sense.

1112
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe fourth, number five. Hank bachbyer Dan from Wake Forest.

1113
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: It's been a not great year for Wake overall, but okay,

1114
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: it has not been a good year for wake Forest

1115
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: at all. So hammeron Hank in a losing effort.

1116
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: Hammer and Hank in a losing effort, is doing his

1117
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: part to try and make that team better. They just

1118
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: don't have the manpower. They don't have the manpower. The

1119
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: other thing that I pulled from our friends.

1120
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: Go, where's Nico in that list? I'd have to pull

1121
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: it up. I don't have it in front of me.

1122
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, Okay.

1123
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 2: The other thing from PFF. Obviously, the highest graded running

1124
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 2: back by a landslide is Ashton Gent.

1125
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: It's not even close. Yeah.

1126
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: I also feel like he's one of a handful of

1127
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: guys who have sort of sucked up the oxygen in

1128
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: the running back room. Right when we talk about a

1129
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: national running back discussion, it's Ashton Gent and no one's

1130
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: really even mentioned next to Sure, the two highest graded

1131
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 2: P four running backs are actually Brishard Smith from SMU.

1132
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's had a great year.

1133
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Justice Ellison from India Indiana, two names that.

1134
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: Are not getting any love. Again.

1135
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: Thought behind this game was under the radar players and

1136
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: just college football things. These are two guys you are

1137
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 2: not hearing about at all. Smith, for SMU is ripping

1138
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 2: off about seven yards of carry a little.

1139
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: Bit more than that. Twenty three percent of his carries

1140
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: have gone for at least ten yards, which is awesome.

1141
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: It's incredible number.

1142
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: A lot of the talk around SMU, as you know,

1143
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: is about the quarter right, going from Preston Stone to

1144
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 2: Kevin Jennings. But Rishard Smith is really what's making this

1145
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 2: offense as hard as it's been lately to stop. So

1146
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 2: keep your eye on him, especially as they get deeper

1147
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: into their acc schedule. But the Justice Ellison one from

1148
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: Indiana is quite interesting to me because he transferred up

1149
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: from Blake Forest. He is not going to get headlines

1150
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: because he's in a bit of a timeshare right now

1151
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 2: with Tyson Lawton, who is their other running back, getting

1152
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: about ten carries a game, far and away the more

1153
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: explosive of those two runners for Indiana close to seven

1154
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 2: yards of carry, close to five yards of carry, five

1155
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 2: yards after contact per carry, so he is breaking tackles

1156
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: Indiana as a whole. Despite the fact that we talked

1157
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: a lot about the Rourke family quarterback dynasty and how

1158
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: they're putting up points and drows and Curtis Rourke is

1159
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: taking advantage of a very talented receiver. Corps Indiana is

1160
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: fourth nationally and rushing success rate Keith nationally and EPA

1161
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: per rush. This has been a very good ground attack

1162
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: thus far, a very good ground attack that is certainly

1163
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: flying under the raidar right now because everyone's focused elsewhere.

1164
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where he's ranked. I don't know if

1165
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: you have these rankings in front of you, but in

1166
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: terms of opponent adjusted opinions, Caleb Johnson going for four

1167
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: hundred yards against Minnesota and Iowa State, it was like

1168
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: four hundred yard ash maybe like three ninety six or

1169
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: something like that is I think as impressive short of

1170
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: Ashton Genty this season that a running back had what

1171
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: a running back has done in two games against quality defenses,

1172
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: especially given the Iowa offensive concerns heading into the season. Sure,

1173
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean that's what Kirk Farns wants to do, right,

1174
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: he just wants to trample people on the ground with

1175
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: a strong offensive line to set up you know, one

1176
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: hundred and forty four passes to tight ends. Caleb Johnson

1177
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: has been an absolute wrecking ball this year.

1178
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty high up on this list as well. Okay,

1179
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: making sure it maybe like a top ten on this list. Yeah,

1180
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's again, these are subjective measures here,

1181
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: but he's of course had a.

1182
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: Really good year.

1183
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: I have one more place that I want to comment on,

1184
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: and this is an incredible under the radar thing that

1185
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: I found. Okay, let's talk about Texas Tech. Let's talk

1186
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 2: about the TV show that is tech. Oh my god,

1187
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say the most entertaining team win

1188
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: or lose four and one so far, got hammered by

1189
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: Washington State back in Week two on the road.

1190
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: But hammered. Yeah.

1191
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: Three of those four wins have been one score games.

1192
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: The defense is dreadful.

1193
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. It is dreadful.

1194
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 2: Ninety ninth in defensive success rate against the run, one

1195
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: hundred and tenth in success rate against the pass.

1196
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: That seems bad, Texas horble. Yeah, it was like eighty

1197
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: second in terms of defensive points per drive allowed, but

1198
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: I think that's only because it's FBS opponents only, so

1199
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: they're not including Ableineidris in those numbers. Yeah, so it's it's.

1200
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: It's not been good, right, It's not been goody by

1201
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: any stretch. The other interesting factoid about the defense is

1202
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: it is a top twenty pass defense in terms of

1203
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: air yards per target, but they are giving up over seventeen.

1204
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: Yards per successful drop back. Okay, so what does that mean.

1205
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: It means teams are throwing short passes and they can't

1206
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: tack they keep running. And I looked this up because

1207
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm looking through these.

1208
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,479
Speaker 1: Like line item by line it im.

1209
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, well, the only way this is possible

1210
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: is if they can't tackle.

1211
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: One hundred and thirty third in tackle rate.

1212
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: So the numbers add up figuratively speaking, But I am

1213
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: not bringing up Texas Tech to dunk on the defense.

1214
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: Okay.

1215
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: There is another really really interesting conflict in their offensive

1216
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 2: stats as well. I'm ready the tech superpower at time

1217
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: of recording is that they are an all time great

1218
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: pain in the ass offense.

1219
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: What do I mean by that? Tell me? Here is

1220
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: the quirk.

1221
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: This is one of the best third down offenses in

1222
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: the nation, despite being one of the worst on first

1223
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: and second downs. They are one hundred and twelfth in

1224
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: the percentage of times they get a first down on

1225
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 2: first or second down.

1226
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: Okay, but they are.

1227
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: Tenth in third down success rates and nearly fifty percent

1228
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: of those third downs are third and seven are longer.

1229
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: I just gave you a bunch of numbers.

1230
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

1231
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: What it means is they're constantly getting way behind the chains,

1232
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 2: and yet they keep finding a way to keep this

1233
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: thing going. Eventually, that's got to stop. That's not scating.

1234
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: That's going to even out, It's not going to stay

1235
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: this way forever. But this is a team right now

1236
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 2: that's going to be in a lot of shootouts because

1237
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: that defense, because of the stuff I just mentioned, And there's

1238
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: also going to be a lot of nervous moments out there,

1239
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: both for Tech fans that are watching hoping that their

1240
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: team can kind of keep drives going and keep putting

1241
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: points up, but also for any opponents out there. Yeah,

1242
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: because you know as well as I if you're watching

1243
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: a Texas Tech game, or watching, frankly, any team that

1244
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: your team is playing, and you get him in third

1245
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: and seven, if they keep getting those, that.

1246
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: Really grinds your tears.

1247
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 2: Okay, that wears you down, getting into those third down

1248
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: situations constantly having to watch them pull a rabbit out

1249
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: of the hat. That is frustrating for whether you're a

1250
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: Tech fan or rooting against them. Texas Tech remains a

1251
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: very interesting television show to drink something strong before the

1252
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: game to take off the edge. Okay, take a puff

1253
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: of something to take off that edge before you watch

1254
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: a Texas Tech game, because it's going to be this

1255
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: way for a while.

1256
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: I just looked it up. One of the true crimes

1257
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: of the college football season is Texas Tech and UCF

1258
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: do not play each other. Ah this season. Do not

1259
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: get to see the Tim de Ruder against Ted Roof

1260
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: just like Leaky Defense Bowl, and we don't get to

1261
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: see it this year. I did see that they played

1262
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: tease You, so that has potential for a sixty three

1263
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: sixty two type game Texas Tech TCO. I believe it's

1264
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: in Fort Worth later in the season, but unfortunately, no,

1265
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: we do not get to see UCF Texas Tech. By

1266
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: the way, easy transition. Tim de Ruter, defensive coordinator for

1267
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: Texas Tech former school two schools ago. CALP hosting game

1268
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: day for the first time ever, but Miami visiting, we'll

1269
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: see that. I did. I'm excited they play at ten thirty.

1270
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: Not excited about that, but nonetheless a good spot for

1271
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: cal Congratulations. I think there are what five four or

1272
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 2: five teams left now that have not gotten game day

1273
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: at the power Conference level.

1274
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be curious to see. I don't think there's

1275
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: like a main parking lot at CAL, so I'm curious

1276
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: to see where they set up on campus or whatever.

1277
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: Strawberry Canyon there for CAL. But hey, good for them,

1278
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: good for the Bears.

1279
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: So you want to do some quick weekday game previews, please,

1280
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: let's go early bird special. There are six games on

1281
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday. Two on Thursday, four and Friday. We'll

1282
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: talk about three of them that I think are of.

1283
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: The most interests to the verballerhood.

1284
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: We don't need to go super deep on any of these,

1285
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: but some interesting quirks to consider. Seven thirty ESPN on Friday,

1286
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: it's Houston at TCU. TCU is a healthy favorite. By

1287
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: seventeen nine pm on Fox, it is Michigan State traveling

1288
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: to Eugene to square off against your Oregon Ducks. Yep, is

1289
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: this the week where they're wearing the heroes they're wearing Yeah,

1290
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 2: they're wearing the heroes uniforms. It's like an all yellow look.

1291
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: I like it. I like what I saw.

1292
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 2: Oregon favored by twenty four and then I think the

1293
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: best game of the day is Syracuse nine PMFS one

1294
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: on the road at UNLV Ooh, buddy, UNLV favored by

1295
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: four and a half points. Do you have any pressing

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Speaker 2: thoughts about any of those games?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, obviously I care about all those games. The

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Speaker 1: Oregon one's going to be fun. So Michigan State on

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Speaker 1: the road after playing Ohio State, Oregon on at home

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Speaker 1: a week after playing on the road, so short week

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Speaker 1: after Ohio State is probably not a great moment for

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Speaker 1: Michigan State to be taking on this Oregon team. To me,

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Speaker 1: a fun quarterback game. The Syracuse UNLV game. If what

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Speaker 1: we saw from UNLV offensively carries over to this week

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't just an emotional thing against what I

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Speaker 1: think we thought was a pretty good Fresno team, that's

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Speaker 1: going to be incredibly fun. What was the third one

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Speaker 1: you mentioned? It's Houston TCU. Oh, Houston TCU. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this TCU defense is good enough

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Speaker 1: to be favored by that many points, but it's been

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Speaker 1: a very tough year for Houston obviously, so this would

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Speaker 1: be another opportunity for TCU. What was their final score

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Speaker 1: this past weekend? Tcused? Come on, I do not all

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Speaker 1: have do not have everything memorized all of the time.

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Speaker 1: When I put you on the spot, You've been putting

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Speaker 1: me on the spot a lot.

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Speaker 2: This one thirty eight to twenty seven TCU knocked off

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Speaker 2: Kansas State or Kansas Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Right, who has struggled this year. So that's eleven points. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that'll be fun. I'm interested in that. I want Houston

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Speaker 1: to have an offense for the first time, it seems

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Speaker 1: this year. But I will watch all of those games,

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Speaker 1: can't wait. I think the line is something like seventeen

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Speaker 1: Oregon favorite over Michigan State, twenty four Dan They're favored

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Speaker 1: by twenty four twenty four. It's a lot of points, ty,

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Speaker 1: I think I feel pretty good about it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have to give it some thought, maybe come back to

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Speaker 1: you on the preview show. But man, it's a really

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Speaker 1: nice spot Situationally you would take the points.

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Speaker 2: I'll definitely take the points there, I think so. Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Smith going back to the Pacific Northwest.

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Speaker 1: Where he just lost like thirty nine to six the

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Speaker 1: last time she played at Eugene.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm enamored with that Syracuse unov game. One of

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Speaker 2: the other things that I saw in my kind of

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Speaker 2: quarterback study. Of course, the Matthew Sluca thing was very

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Speaker 2: prominent last week. We talked a lot about that. Given

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Speaker 2: circumstances and Osmia Leak Williams came in for UNLV.

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Speaker 1: He was really, really good.

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Speaker 2: But there was a pretty big disparity between how far

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Speaker 2: down the field Sluka was throwing versus how far down

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Speaker 2: the field they let Hodjbileagu Williams throw. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know if that was because of skill set. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if they were trying to get them comfortable. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that was game plan. All right, it's

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Speaker 2: a one game sample size, I can't really tell, but

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Speaker 2: Sluca was airing it out, and so I'm curious to

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Speaker 2: see if there is going to be any kind of

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Speaker 2: shift by that UNLV offense.

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Speaker 1: They obviously have a lot to play for.

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Speaker 2: When you look around people who cover a group of

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Speaker 2: five a lot closer than we do, most of them

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Speaker 2: have UNLV number one in their power rankings. As a

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Speaker 2: team that's going to go to the playoff from the

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Speaker 2: G five, Boise is two. Then you know we can

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Speaker 2: get into conversations. We will, I'm sure at some point

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Speaker 2: talk more about that on the show. But you and

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Speaker 2: he's got a lot to play for here. Now I'd

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Speaker 2: be inclined to take points here with Syracuse. I think

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Speaker 2: Syracuse will hang with UNLV. I think UNLV is a

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Speaker 2: good team, but I think Syracuse can move the ball.

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Speaker 2: I think Syracuse can score. I think this ends up

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Speaker 2: being a field goal one way or another. Just minqing

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Speaker 2: on it, and I have not gone super in the

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Speaker 2: weeds on advanced analytics and where the edges are and

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Speaker 2: where they aren't right. My hunch though, is the for

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Speaker 2: Animal is going to bring some pressure on a relatively

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Speaker 2: green starting quarterback at the P four level or G five, yeah,

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Speaker 2: G five level against the P four school. He's going

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Speaker 2: to try and get his money's worth here.

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Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of just another good player, Ricky White,

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Speaker 1: the Michigan State transfer for UNLV, having a really nice

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Speaker 1: season again for UNLV, apparently turned down more money to

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Speaker 1: go elsewhere to stick around at UNLV. Very dicey time

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Speaker 1: to talk about nil stuff with UNLV, but nonetheless has

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Speaker 1: been very strong for the Rebels and Aiden Childs. By

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Speaker 1: the way, and just in talking about points in the

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Speaker 1: Oregon Michigan State game. In four games against FBS, Schools

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Speaker 1: has thrown eight interceptions. Yeah, so if you're wondering why

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Speaker 1: if Oregon only looks like they're seventeen or so points

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Speaker 1: better than Michigan State on the field, but they win

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Speaker 1: this game by thirty three turnovers turnovers, turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here is what the week looks like ahead beyond

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Speaker 2: those matchups on Friday. From a solid verbal standpoint, we've

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Speaker 2: got our Week six preview episode coming out Thursday. We've

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Speaker 2: got Big ten Breakfast coming out on Friday. This past

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Speaker 2: one of past version of Big ten Breakfast was the

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Speaker 1: Hey. Great, so it seems like it's growing. It seems

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Speaker 2: Drops on the YouTube channel we posted elsewhere over the

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Speaker 2: next couple days as well. But Big ten Breakfast coming up,

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Speaker 2: Okay mm hm, you want to build up your sleep

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Speaker 2: banks this week?

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Speaker 1: Dan? Yeah. Always. There are only twelve.

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Speaker 2: Games on Saturday before three thirty pm Eastern Time, which

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Speaker 2: three thirty or later, eighteen games at six thirty or later,

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Speaker 2: and then we've got two meaningful conference games for the

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Speaker 2: ACC and the Big Twelve that start at ten thirty

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern Time or bays. So this is a week

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Speaker 2: that's going to skew later and which is interesting because

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Speaker 2: you know, we have to talk about the window of opportunity.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it again this week.

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Speaker 2: I think the biggest game of the day might be

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Speaker 2: in the noon block with Miszoo at Texas A and

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Speaker 2: M huge, so I'm gonna have to do some calculus

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Speaker 2: there to figure out where the window is. The big

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Speaker 2: games though, Missoo versus Texas A and M. We've got Iowa,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State Auburn Georgia will be interesting, if only because

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Speaker 2: it's a historic rivalry. All miss against South Carolina hasn't

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Speaker 2: really been mentioned other places. Man, I like that in

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Speaker 2: terms of a big matchup, but I think that's a

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Speaker 2: fun one. Clemson Florida State doesn't have quite the steam

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Speaker 2: as it did preseason, but still, you know match that

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Speaker 2: we care about. Tennessee at Arkansas I think could be fun.

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Speaker 2: Michigan at Washington, Washington I think favored by a couple points.

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Speaker 2: UCF at Florida and Miami at cal is the late

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Speaker 2: late game. Also, if you just want to kind of

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Speaker 2: broaden it out a little bit, SMU at Louisville, Navy

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Speaker 2: at air Force, Miami, Ohio at Toledo, a big MAC

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Speaker 2: matchup that we got to talk about. Sure, Rutgers at Nebraska,

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Speaker 2: West Virginia at Oklahoma State James Madison Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: Should be a good game. That should be a really

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Speaker 1: good game.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, USC at Minnesota, the aforementioned Texas Tech at

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Speaker 2: the aforementioned Arizona.

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Speaker 1: That could be a very very fun one. Eleven am

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Speaker 1: Dan Arizona after a big Utah win. A lot more

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Speaker 1: to come.

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Speaker 2: We will talk about those games as we get into

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