WEBVTT - Hour 2 – Denny Hamlin (07-07-20) 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.600 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.040 Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome inside hour two of the 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:10.200 Dan Patrick Show. Here on Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:15.120 and Doug Gottlieb in for Dan Today. Denny Hamlin is 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.759 stopping by, coming up in about twenty minutes. NASCAR driver who, 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.919 let's face it, Yesterday, President Trump had some big things 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:26.240 to say about NASCAR and the whole Bubba Wallace situation 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.159 and the Confederate flag as well, before he went on 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.639 to talk about the Washington Redskins nicknames, the Cleveland Indians nicknames. 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.680 So Denny Hamlin's gonna stop by coming up in twenty minutes, 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.600 so I must listen there as we get into that 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:43.320 with him. But a breaking story in the NFL this 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:47.040 morning that revolves around Eagles wide receiver to Shawn Jackson. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.360 This story is a couple hours old now and it's 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:54.160 starting to really gain a lot of traction momentum as 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.800 DeShawn Jackson's under fire and has had to apologize saying 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.360 that he doesn't hate the Jewish community after he postings 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.839 after he posts some anti Semitic messages. Now, he shared 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.720 a couple of different quotes on social media that he 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.200 attributed to both Adolf Hitler and Nation of Islam leader 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:15.800 Lewis Farrakon. On the Instagram story feed for Hitler, he 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.680 put up a quote that he attributed to Hitler which 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:23.119 said quote, white Jews will blackmail America. They will extort America. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.000 Their plan for world domination won't work if the Negroes 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.680 know who they were. He also went on to quote 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.360 from Lewis Farrakon as well, whom the Anti Defamation League 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:36.039 in Southern Poverty Law Center have identified as anti Semitic. 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:40.520 After he got criticism about this, to Shawn Jackson said, hey, listen, 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.280 my posts were taken the wrong way. Quote anyone who 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.600 feels I have hate towards the Jewish community took my 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:47.880 post the wrong way. I have no hatred in my 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.240 heart toward no One equality equality, and then he had 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.840 some raised fist emojis in multiple colors. The Eagles have 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.880 not yet commented on to Shaun Jackson and these media posts, Doug, 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.040 this is something that's new and we're seeing this, and 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:05.360 it's it's shocking to see this. Shocking, well, it's shocking 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.760 to see somebody decide I'm going to put up a 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.320 post where I'm going to reference reference World War two 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.400 or nine to eleven to make a point. I mean, 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.240 there's there's certain things in my life. I go, okay, 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.440 I can tell you. I can tell you one thing 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.560 that if you want to make a point about something 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.760 using World War two, Adolph Hitler using nine to eleven, 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.320 those are two sure ways to either get fired or suspended. Uh, 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.800 and that one hundred percent. I have seen that across 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.800 the board. I don't understand why people continuing to go 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.280 to go to things like that. So I'm gonna make 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.399 my point with that. I don't get it. I don't 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.360 get why people would. I don't get why he would 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.640 put up a post that has attributed to Adolph Hitler. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.520 I don't I don't understand that. I mean, really that 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.079 just that's just that that's what you want to do. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.680 I don't understand. No, I'm with you there. The idea, 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:52.240 it's not a new idea that that that Hitler aged Jews, 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.600 or that Lewis farrakon AIGs Jews, or that black people 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.520 can be racist as well. These are not new ideas. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:02.480 They're not new ideas. Um I would I would only 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.640 tell you that I have the like it's it's Uh 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.960 was it Riley Um, Riley Cooper, Riley Cooper right, Like 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.079 I'd like to believe, I know, people related to Riley Cooper. 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.280 I'd like to believe that he is not he is 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.720 not racist, that he was. But man, we can only 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.880 take him in his word, and his word was he 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.280 dropped the N bomb with the er, which I don't know. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:34.160 I don't know anyone who drops that and isn't racist. Um. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.720 The same goes for Deshan Jackson. I don't know what 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.400 to do with it, like he's an idiot, but I 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.120 you know, Deshaun Jackson's the same guy who you know 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.440 when he got ran out of Philadelphia the first time, 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.600 when he got ran out of Philadelphia. Um, people want 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.120 to know why. And you know, Chip Kelly had at 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.120 leaked that he thought he was Maybe he wasn't a 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.160 gang banger, but he's hanging out with gang bangers. Was 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.320 it was his thing? Like I just think that Deshan 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.840 Jackson's not that smart. I just think I think he 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:05.560 probably he thought he was, you know, showing people that. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.560 I don't know what he was doing. But none of 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.200 this is groundbreaking to me. Like if you Jewish, you've 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.280 felt this for a long time. You know there are 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.080 people that don't like you, and you do know that 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.800 there's the reality that there are there are black people 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.640 who are anti Semitic. There are other white people they 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.159 are anti Semitic, um, And you know you kind of 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.720 deal with it. The apology is terrible. I like, you know, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.479 I love all people. Like, No, you don't not based 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.560 upon that. Now he based on the quote, but based 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.480 on who you picked out for the quotes, Yeah, like 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.280 you can't. You can't pick Hitler and then go right. 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.600 But I also I just I also would I give 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.520 him a little bit of a pass because Deshan Jackson 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:48.960 doesn't strike me as somebody who is super worldly and 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:55.080 and maybe understood it. Um. I don't know if I've 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:58.400 always heard to Sean Jackson's sneaky, sneaky, bad guy, super talent. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.280 He's in the league because he's got great speed, and 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.920 that doesn't surprise me. Nothing that's in surprise me. Yeah, 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.000 it's it's you know, part of it is I always 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.839 go back to the Herm Edwards quote before he became 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.039 head coach Arizona State and when he was giving a 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.880 big yeah, the big symposium he gave to NFL players. 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.720 I'm gonna veent a new phone. I want you all 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.640 to buy it, and it's gonna have a big button 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:22.159 on it that says, don't press end. There's nothing more 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.800 true than that that. You know, many times you can 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.839 have bad ideas about things, and you know, okay, maybe 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.920 I don't say something about it, all right, all right, 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.320 but the minute you want to, you want to be 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.640 out there in the world. And this is where you know, 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.600 athletes I think failed to understand what social media was 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.760 going to become. You know, when social media first started, 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.039 so many athletes stood up and said, this is where 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.000 we get our messages unfiltered to the fans. Right. We 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.440 don't have the media twisting it on us. We don't 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.240 have anybody, no, no, this is we get our message 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.760 right out to you blank, you evil media. This is 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.520 where we are. We're gonna take your jay. You're not 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.479 gonna have jobs anymore, so we're gonna tweet stuff out. 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.360 And now where a social media come. Whenever we talk 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.400 about it, it's because an athlete has said something that 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:08.680 is either controversial or something like this, and it puts 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.240 them in a light that they really don't want to 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.279 be in. And and there's certain things to to to 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.520 be said that you didn't see how this was going 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:19.480 to evolve over time, and when you are when when 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.920 you're in a situation where I could say this for 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.239 whatever reason, uh, you wind up like de Shaun Jackson, 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.960 you know, I mean the I mean the funniest part 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:33.200 is like Hawie Roseman's his boss. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.520 know flo that one Hawie Roseman, right? Yeah? And how 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.440 well looked? Ug? I mean, look, I think a lot 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.440 of people know, but not but maybe not everybody knows, 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.680 you know, I mean you're Jewish. When you see something 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.160 like that, you're you're Were you mad? Was your reaction? 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.160 You were really pissed? Were you like, oh my god, 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.440 you said you'll look to Sean Jackson's not very smart? 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.680 Were you want to just dismiss it and move on? 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.200 Like We're like, where were you when you see something 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.320 like this? I just I think in many ways, Twitter 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:03.760 is like booze right, but like like booze um, when 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.360 when you drink, what is how do you are you sleepy? 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.480 Are you silly? Are do you do you get in fights? 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:13.120 Like what happens when you drink? Oh? I get happy? Okay, 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.720 So you're happy. You're a happy guy. I talk even 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.960 more than I do when I'm not drinking, right, which 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:22.080 is so happy, happy, drunk, happy guy. And that's generally 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.760 the belief twit twitters like that where Twitter kind of 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:30.360 exposes ultimately who you are. Me I'm I'm sarcastic, I'm 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.440 also I I when it comes there, like real thought, 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.720 I try to be kind of common sense, and I 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:41.160 do think that there's there's other ways of looking at it. 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.000 Of of of I try to have open I'm open 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:48.960 to all perspectives or whatever. But this is Twitter, Twitter, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:52.200 Twitter and normal right like it just it's amplified like 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.400 Sean Jackson is exposed to me, is which I would say, 0:07:55.760 --> 0:08:00.360 you know, I mean, look, black people can feel how 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.000 they feel about how America and the world has treated them, 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.400 and um, I would say that in many ways, Jewish 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.440 people have felt like we've you know, throughout time, the 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.040 problems of the world have been pushed on the on 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:18.360 the Jews, and you know, I we we get blamed 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.120 for anybody's anybody's problems that somehow, you know, when you 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.960 when you're three percent of the population, yet you make 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.560 a substantial amount of the wealth percentage wise, in the 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:32.800 country that you get blamed for financial success, and I 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.880 would say that, you know, the the pushback has always 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.000 been from anybody I've talked to, is like, look, the 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.320 Jewish culture is one hundred percent literc culture. It's one 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:44.480 where parents pushed their kids towards education. And I frankly 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.240 think that all races should like, if you want to 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.679 lift up your your race or your religion, the best 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.719 way to do so is much like you know, the 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.720 the highest in terms of race, and Jewish people aren't 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.560 considered a race in the country, but to race, Asian 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:03.680 people make the most per capita, right, Why because two 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.760 parents in the home, a lot of times grandparents in 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.600 the home, and they push their kids towards not just 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.360 majors that make more money, but also towards education. And 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.520 you know that that would be my explanation for why 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.560 Jewish people do so well financially. It's not through any 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.520 sort of Are there bad Jewish people? Of course? Are 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.520 there racist Jewish people? Of course, not a lot of them, 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:26.400 I hope, considering the racism and anti Semitism that they've seen. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.080 And I don't think all black people are racist, but 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.080 I do think there are racist black people, or they're 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:35.120 anti Semitic black people. And you know, if if you're 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.839 willing to accept that there are racist white people, which 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.760 I'm willing to accept, you have to accept that there 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:43.480 are racist black people. Now, has this been instigated because 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.640 somebody was done wrong over time? I'm sure, I'm sure, 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.240 but that when I see it, I just say, Sean Jackson, 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.120 you know, I just don't think he's I don't think 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.520 you're very You're you can't tell me you're a smart 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.920 human being if if you post that at you don't. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.559 The second you post anything quoting Hitler, and like you said, 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:09.200 and by now you post something you quotes Hitler, you're 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.160 not very smart. You know what people's reaction is going 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.240 to be, and it's probably how you really feel. And 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.839 that's that parts not a surprise to me. Yeah, No, 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.680 you show who you are when you're quoting Hitler. I 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:21.840 mean really that that that that that kind of shows 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.560 who you are and it you know, the part of 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.679 this though you mentioned Riley Cooper, and part of this 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.920 is the you know, Deshaun Jackson, obviously to me, is 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.160 someone who spends a lot of time having race conversations. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.200 And I was always really surprised. I remember when the 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.120 Riley Cooper thing happened on my show I had on 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.480 Akbar bij Biamila, you know, a former NFL or star 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.480 of American Ninja Warrior, and we talked about this and 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.200 I said, you know, using language of this, he goes, well, 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.880 he goes, you'd be surprised, he goes. The stuff that 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.040 gets thrown around the locker room in jest between teammates, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.280 that's part of you know, our brotherhood. There's race stuff 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.720 that gets thrown around all the time, and there's racist 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.880 words that are said back and forth, and it's you know, 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.240 it's it just happens that way, and and that's just 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.920 but that's that's the the you know, the closed atmosphere 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.200 of what we have as a team. So what you know, 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.720 when I hear that, I can I can see how 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.720 I can see where things like this wind up getting 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:15.640 blown up and put on social media because I have 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.960 this conversation. You know, we we we we you know, 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.000 we have conversations like this in the locker room for 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.400 whatever reason. And so I'm saying it and I'm to 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.040 put it up on social media. Well, I you know, 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.520 that's that's really that that and that's where it gets 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.080 from one part of the story to the next. So 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.600 I can, I can, I can see how this happens. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.040 But at the you know, I look at this ago. 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:35.800 How do you think that you know, you go from 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.200 whatever conversation you're having in life too. I'm gonna put 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:43.160 this up on social make sure I don't get it. Look, 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.319 I agree with you. In the locker room, generally there 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.760 are race jokes there there at least, you know, again, 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.800 maybe times have changed now there are jokes, sexual jokes, 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.960 sexual orientation jokes. You know. I mean, I remember things 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.640 that something Kobe Bryant said where you know, he had 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.040 to apologize for. And I think people outside the world 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.400 of basketball take it at face value, whereas it's it's 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.800 just a it's a different language inside the confines of 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:13.480 a sport. Okay, So I do understand that this strikes me, Like, honestly, 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.320 I think there's a lot of people who don't know 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:19.920 anything about Judaism. They just they just don't like that's 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.120 the Hitler quotes a fake quote anyway, And that's where 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.520 I'm like, to post a Hitler quote is dumb. To 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.480 post a fake Hitler quote is even more dumb, and 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:34.640 then and then to not understand what you're posting is 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.320 equal parts dumb. You know, Look, the average average IQ 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:40.760 is just as close to eighty as it is to 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:45.240 one twenty, So not everybody is a magnum kumlati twitter At, 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.160 How about a fresca Doug at gottlieb Show Jason Smith 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.640 and Doug gottlieb In for Dan Patrick Today. Again, this story, 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:55.120 uh pretty new it We'll keep following it as envelops 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.480 and develops throughout the day for Eagles wide out to 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.480 Seawan Jackson. 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We got Denny Hamlin coming up in a 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.720 few minutes with us, So keep it right here on 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:37.760 Fox Sports Radio, as NASCAR, the National Football League, major 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.000 League Baseball now trying to figure out how to deal 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.599 with the latest tweets from President Donald Trump. It was 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.480 a day ago that he questioned the validity of the 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:52.320 Bubba Wallace story and wanted Bubba Wallace to apologize for 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.240 the NASCAR hoax of the noose in his garage, saying 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.880 that that in the flag situation, benning the Confederate flag 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.160 and resulted in low radio for NASCAR. He went on 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:05.280 to talk about how the Indians and Redskins nicknames, which 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.760 were initially made to show strength, should stay nicknames. He 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.600 went on to reference Elizabeth Warren and you know, and 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.480 we're off to the races, you know, Doug, with this 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.920 last these tweets, the last twenty four hours or so. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.240 When you and I talked about this yesterday, we said, listen, 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.640 the best thing to do is to ignore this and 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.320 just move on. Because the NFL, if they could do 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.920 it over again from twenty seventeen, they certainly would say, 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.960 you know what, We're not going to just start getting 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.960 scattered because President Trump is tweeting about kneeling football players 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.120 and Colin Kaepernick. The best thing to do would be 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.600 to ignore it because, as we said, look, there's political 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.400 stuff and this is something that you can't win. And 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.760 notice the difference in the responses so far is that 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.640 when this happened Redskins, you know, the NFL, really no 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:52.560 one really said anything. You know, It's like, all right, 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.440 we've done this before, We've been through this. Roger Adell 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.440 put the moment of unity out there saying that we 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.400 blew it last time. Let's go forward together. And NASCAR 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.920 had a bunch of drivers who responded to this because 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.000 this is something brand new for them, and you know, 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.720 and we talked about saying, hey, you know, be ahead 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.040 of things and and and just move on because you 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.880 can't win this battle that that's going to go on 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.320 if you're gonna continually to engage this. Yeah, I look, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.760 I don't think you have to go full on frontal assault. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:22.640 I would guess that the NFL stance changed. Uh. One, 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.720 they didn't want to go against their players. And two, 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:30.400 Uh my guess is that they feel like Trump's done 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:34.400 in November anyway, and you want to be on the 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:39.120 right side of this thing, right like, um, I just 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.960 you know, it's it's interesting where the exact same tweet 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.880 about a similar situation two or three years later can 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:52.280 be received completely differently. And it's it's knowing the room, 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.840 knowing the temperature of the country. He hasn't changed. This 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.960 is who he is. And I actually would give him 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.800 credit for like, you know, you know who you are, 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.400 know how you got your job. You know you dance 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.440 with the date that brung you. Right, this is how 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.600 we got His gig was in a time in which 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.680 in a job in which is generally seen as a 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:19.000 unifying job, he has won based upon being polarizing. Right 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.040 that that's basically what it was. He won by dividing 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.480 the country, and his side showed up more in the 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.400 places that it was important, more so than the other side. 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.760 And look, he didn't win any one basically my seventy 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.280 thousand votes, and you know in the states that mattered. 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:39.880 So that this is but the country has changed, our 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.240 how we receive his tweets have changed. How we view 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.120 our own progression has changed. And that's why I think 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:50.000 the response has changed. Um, I don't think, and I 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.360 do think a portion of it is, Hey, that guy's 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.600 not gonna be there for long anyway. Let's let's let's 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.560 not act like he matters once, uh, you know, once 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.840 once we get to November fifth or so, if this 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.119 happened now for the first time instead of you know, 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.760 three years ago, would the NFL you think they would 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.239 still get involved. Would this be the same response that 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.639 we've seen from them, as like, listen, the president, we 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.800 learned our lesson last time. I get it. But if 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.160 this happened now in the way we are now in society, 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.720 what we've gone through the past few years, is the 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:23.119 NFL's reaction different or do they still go WHOA, the 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.920 President's involved and players go back and forth and still 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.959 becomes a big deal was in twenty seventeen. I don't know. 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.880 I don't I don't know if it's a different president. 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.160 I don't know if it's a different message. I don't 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:40.080 know if it's a different messenger in terms of Kaepernick. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:45.080 Don't know. I all of these things, you know, we 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.160 can't I can't really tell you. I can only take 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.439 the I do think context of time does does in 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:58.080 fact matter? So because I was in New York when 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.720 Eric Garner was killed and it began, you know, that 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.120 was the first I can't breathe, you know, marches, and 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.480 that that was the first time that NBA players really 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.359 became politically involved. I mean really ever since well maybe 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:15.600 not ever since Vietnam. And you know, you know some 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.880 of the protest marches that Bill Walton was a part of, 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.320 that Kareem was a part of. Etc. But I don't 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:22.720 know how it would be. I mean, I'm sure it 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.120 would be different, but I don't know what the response 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.639 would be. You know, I think there's a there was, 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.840 because there was also a lot of factors in how 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.120 the country changed. Like, look, we were under quarantine, and 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.680 so you had people with a ton of pent up emotion. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:42.000 You had this these stories spread anyway when there's video, 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.240 and cell phone video obviously spreads a lot more. But 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.040 then you also had cell phone video that spreads on 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:51.040 social media, and so all those things kind of change it. 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.240 And then you factor in people have been quarantined, so 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.920 now they get out and you have a small percentage 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.879 of people start destroying stuff as well. Like all of 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:03.280 this context and time does matter. Fox Sports Radio, The 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:06.080 Dan Patrick Show, Jason Smith, Doug Gottlieb in for Dan 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.080 and the Dan Ess Today joining us Now I'm a 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.240 hotline NASCAR driver Denny Hamlin Denny, good morning. Thanks for 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:15.200 stopping by with us. For sure, thank you. So tell 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.920 me your reaction yesterday. Obviously, I'm sure you were taken 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:22.120 by surprise you saw President Trump's tweet about Bubba Wallace, NASCAR, 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.600 the flag controversy. What was your reaction when you when 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:30.680 you saw it, you know, I it's kind of a sigh, Um, 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.679 that was about it. Um. You know, I was busy 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.960 at the race shop, just kind of debriefing from our 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.760 past race and just kind of thinking about Kentucky going 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.199 forward this weekend. But you know, I really didn't have 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.679 a particular reaction. I guess you could say from it. 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.399 You know, I kind of stayed out of it. Um. 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.679 You know, I think that's everything that the industry has 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:57.639 said we still rings true. Denny. What has this been 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.840 like for you? What has you know, racing when some 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:02.600 of the world, some of the country is still under 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.199 different phases of quarantine, uh, you know, plus some of 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.440 the you know, the political movements in the country. What's 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:13.000 it been like for you and your race team. You know, 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:16.639 we've tried our best to keep the distraction as far 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.640 away as possible and you know, to continue to focus 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:23.159 on our process and our process to prepare for races, 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.040 our process once we get to the racetrack, and our 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:29.160 process when we leave the racetrack. And that's essentially kind 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.159 of where I feel like we've been so strong and 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:36.399 while we've been so good, is we we have have 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:40.000 kept ourselves sheltered from that stuff, and and uh, it's 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:41.879 it's kind of accorded to a lot of all and 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:45.879 track success. It's been a big last couple of weeks 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:49.359 obviously with the Federate flag situation no longer being welcome 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.000 at NASCAR races, we'll see it being flown outside and 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.679 now with a Bubba Wallace story what have you, you know, 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:57.560 just just kind of put into words for us a 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:00.159