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Speaker 1: I've been secretly planning to divorce my husband four years.

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Speaker 2: It just won't change.

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Speaker 3: That's not Plan A or B or C. That's Plan D.

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Speaker 2: For divorce or divorce.

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Speaker 1: My husband twenty seven male, and I twenty nine female,

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Speaker 1: have been married for seven years this year. We have

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Speaker 1: two little girls, seven and one, as well as two

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Speaker 1: pets we treat as our children, a cat and a dog. Okay,

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Speaker 1: who do you treat better the dogs and the cats

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Speaker 1: or the children?

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Speaker 4: I would hope you'd treat the actual children better than

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Speaker 4: the furiture.

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Speaker 2: All treated equally. Yeah, we treat all of our babies.

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Speaker 3: We're sending our dog to private school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, making sure it gets the best SAT tutor.

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Speaker 1: He'd a mark in three different languages. It all started

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Speaker 1: after I found out I was pregnant. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this comes from Winter Freedom six two twenty nine on

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Speaker 1: the Rslash. Okay, storytime subrat it. So he was messaging

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Speaker 1: another girl who was calling him babe.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean he's cheating.

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Speaker 4: So wait during so they already had two kids and

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Speaker 4: now they're pregnant again. Third pregnancy. This is when the

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Speaker 4: problems are beginning.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, that's h Yeah, but wasn't putting up boundaries,

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Speaker 1: saying she's just a best friend.

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Speaker 2: I call kean babe hi, babe, hi, bib he is

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Speaker 2: what he is. He is what he is, babe. I

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Speaker 2: mean he's a babe hi babe.

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Speaker 1: I was fine with her being a friend, and I

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Speaker 1: just asked for boundaries and for a place to send

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Speaker 1: her baby uh wait, and for a place to send

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Speaker 1: her baby shower invite since we were having a.

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Speaker 2: Co ed baby shower.

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Speaker 1: He refused and promptly cut off contact.

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Speaker 3: It seems like a little bit of an extreme response.

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Speaker 1: Oh cut off contact with the person calling him babe.

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Speaker 2: I think not with open Oh.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, yeah, I was like that was a jump.

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Speaker 1: After the birth of our oldest, I found Facebook messages

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Speaker 1: to this girl saying he missed her and wanted to

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Speaker 1: be with her.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, so no, this is in the past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this.

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Speaker 4: Know this happened during the first pregnancy. There is no

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Speaker 4: third pregnancy I've noticed. So this has been going on

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Speaker 4: since How old is that first kid?

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Speaker 2: What's seven? Seven and one? Seven and one? Yeah, so for.

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Speaker 4: Seven to eight years she's been The honest story began.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you just wanted to be with her as

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Speaker 1: friends though, you know, yeah, just a friendly babe, friend,

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Speaker 1: friendly babe, a friendly Oh I miss you, you know,

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Speaker 1: hi babe after she bababe after she congratulated him in

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Speaker 1: a very platonic manner on the birth of his first child.

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Speaker 1: He also had many pictures of female friends in his

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Speaker 1: phone for inspiration.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you got to get inspired something.

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Speaker 1: I need to be inspired, yeah, hebe. Do you want

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Speaker 1: me to start my cryptocurrency company. I need to look

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Speaker 1: at these women for inspiration.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to turn them into NFT. Yeah. The floor

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Speaker 2: price is going to go through the roof, I swear, babe.

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Speaker 1: Not even dirty pictures, just pictures from social media. He

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Speaker 1: didn't think this was wrong, Just regular pictures. Just the

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Speaker 1: folder of my homies, the homies. Yeah, I have all

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Speaker 1: these guys in a Hobie homie folder for inspiration folder.

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Speaker 1: I want to see Toby folder.

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Speaker 2: I need to see the upskirt shots I have of

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Speaker 2: you guys.

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Speaker 5: The banter timers.

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Speaker 6: Being a vissery eighthd stream eighty HD.

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Speaker 1: Stream you think this was wrong, but later admitted there

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Speaker 1: was wrongdoing from him, but promised it would never happened again. Fine,

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Speaker 1: I got pissy being young. I was twenty three. He

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Speaker 1: was twenty one at the time. He began drinking heavily.

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Speaker 1: At this point, he wasn't violent wasted, but he was stupid.

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Speaker 1: Remember this for later. I didn't already think he was stupid.

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Speaker 1: All right, you got it. I remember he drunk, stupid,

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Speaker 1: And now you're finally we get our own place. After

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Speaker 1: but now he has the alibi.

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Speaker 2: It's like, babe, I wouldn't do it if I was sober.

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Speaker 2: I was wasted, I swear, I do.

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Speaker 5: Remember how stupid I am.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, you married this, You knew what you

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Speaker 5: You read what you saw. You did this to yourself.

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Speaker 2: Before that.

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Speaker 1: He is unhappy in his marriage, so he gets wasted

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Speaker 1: unhappy in his marriage and wishes he was with her now.

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Speaker 1: They were never more than friends. Ever, She didn't see

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Speaker 2: Ever.

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Speaker 1: She told me this at a later date, because, as

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Speaker 1: it turns out, she was trying to talk this wasted.

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Speaker 1: She was trying to talk this wasted through why he

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Speaker 1: So she was trying to talk to him while he

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Speaker 1: was wasted and like kind of be his guidance counselor

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Speaker 4: Why as ope, do you not immediately start Plan D

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Speaker 4: right now?

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Speaker 2: Kids? Do you find kids? Probably?

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Speaker 4: And if you find him being like I hate my wife,

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Speaker 4: I want to be with you, Like, okay, go be

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Speaker 4: with their stupid I'm leaving you right.

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Speaker 1: I think two kids is a powerful magnet. The children, children,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't the children more importantly, the fur baby children?

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Speaker 1: You stay together for those?

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Speaker 3: You know, we just put him into private dogs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, we need to see them after high school.

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Speaker 1: We could do Plan D. You know, whether they're off

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Speaker 5: You know, it's really cool guys on.

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Speaker 1: So I had a joke shout out to Elena, she's

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Speaker 1: a girls girl. He confessed, and eventually we decided I

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Speaker 1: need to move on from it.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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Speaker 1: At this time, I finally told my friends what he's

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Speaker 3: With a friends, good friends.

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Speaker 1: Even finding guy friends to fake me cheating with so

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Speaker 3: Well, that seems like a step in you had first half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let you just sick it up.

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Speaker 1: Husband found out hates my friends again, and we decided

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Speaker 1: to move on from there. After these events, in October

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, I decided to stop drinking entirely. I

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Speaker 3: Nice, nice, and refined.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: During this time, I also started talking to an ex

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Speaker 1: who moved to another country. It started platonically, as you

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Speaker 1: know every most things do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean usually you're going.

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Speaker 4: From the first sentence it's just like I'm in love

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Speaker 4: with you.

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Speaker 1: But it turned more so I decided to cut it off.

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Speaker 1: All right, at least she had some restraint. A month later,

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Speaker 1: I'm pregnant with baby number two. This is the one

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Speaker 1: the other guy, this guy that she was patonic with.

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Speaker 1: Let's call other guy Tommy. Hold this thought, hold it

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Speaker 1: put in, knocking down, knock it down. We moved in

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Speaker 1: with my parents for a month, waiting on our new apartments.

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Speaker 1: I wake up one night after he got insanely wasted

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Speaker 1: to see he created a fake social media page and

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Speaker 1: downloaded a texting app to message my mom.

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Speaker 3: Oh, going straight to the source.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at least he has a type, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, keeping it in the family, and the family some

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe this is all just misunderstanding and he's just

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Speaker 4: downloading secret text apps to yeah, get recipes.

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Speaker 2: From his mom. Yeah, start gaving.

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Speaker 3: It's a secret recipe, the secret family recipes.

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Speaker 2: And he wants to get it.

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Speaker 1: And because he wants to cook it for his wife

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Speaker 1: and his children and not his mistress and not his mistress. No,

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Speaker 1: he would never, would never, exactly and if he did,

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Speaker 1: it would be platonically.

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Speaker 3: If he did, he would give his wife the leftovers

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Speaker 2: So for conducts. My parents are open swingers.

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Speaker 5: Oh, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: They have been since I was at least thirteen, and

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Speaker 1: I have met their partners through the years.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, Hey, honey, hey honey, this is these

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Speaker 6: are the Smiths.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: There are put on your headphones, your special fun headphones.

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Speaker 2: Get your special fund.

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Speaker 1: Remember the headphone over the headphones. Why you wear the headphones?

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Speaker 1: You don't want to hear. You know, obviously our workouts

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Speaker 4: Right because we swing from ropes. Yeah, they never explained

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Speaker 4: what it actually is. They're just like, these are our

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Speaker 2: We're turning for the Olympics.

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Speaker 6: Over here, I haven't okay, story time? Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 2: He wants us. Okay, story time after we finished story?

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Speaker 4: Okay, right, keys chat remember story?

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Speaker 2: Okay, no, we'll we'll do it. Well. Yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: They're all nice. Only one was kind of creepy, but

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Speaker 1: it was just his looks. He's cool, He's just like,

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Speaker 1: that's so back to the stories. My parents are open

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Speaker 1: swingers and my mom will do guys without my dad there,

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Speaker 1: so this was extra weird. We already signed the new

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Speaker 1: lease at this point. We agreed that if anything new happens,

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Speaker 1: we'll get a divorce because this clearly isn't working if

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Speaker 1: we keep hurting each other. Well, a month after moving in,

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Speaker 1: he found the messages with Tommy. I told him it

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Speaker 1: was wrong of me. Absolutely, this is her side thing, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: We moved on from this too, since it was before

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Speaker 2: we signed a new lude.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I have to point this out. That's like the

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Speaker 4: third time some really really serious stuff happened and then

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Speaker 4: just goes bet then and he just moved on and

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Speaker 4: then but you.

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Speaker 1: Know, it's like what it sounds like, they're just like

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Speaker 1: closed swingers to themselves. I feel like they're openly basically swinging,

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Speaker 1: but they're not admitting it to themselves yet there's yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're the semi closed. The apple does not fall from

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Speaker 1: the tree. The apple the apple swung from the.

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Speaker 3: Trees espectually when the branches are swinging so hard.

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Speaker 1: So now in August in twenty twenty three, I found

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Speaker 1: pictures of my mom no no and her friends completely.

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Speaker 1: Also is this one picture? Is this multiple pictures? Like

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Speaker 3: Why are you doing this to yourself?

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 2: But then she moved on from and.

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Speaker 5: Then we moved on from that.

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Speaker 1: God Waterhorse, water Horse never forget on his phone in

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Speaker 1: a folder called my w what.

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Speaker 2: It's the wank folder, it's stankfolder. Yeah, but the worst

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Speaker 1: Makes more sense because of how many stars there are.

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Speaker 4: I think he's got an edgy it's supposed to be

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Speaker 5: And then he says my.

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Speaker 3: Dude, don't even ask questions.

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Speaker 2: Just leave. This is not worth I didn't get to

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Speaker 5: No, but mom needs to be on top of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he's said.

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Speaker 1: I asked him if he wanted separation. She's asking him. No,

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Speaker 3: Take your power.

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Speaker 1: Back because this keeps coming up. I was his first everything,

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna clear this up really quick. For all

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Speaker 2: When he's drunk.

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Speaker 4: He actually doesn't, because people don't lose intelligence when they drink.

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Speaker 4: What they lose is inhibition. He's aware of the consequences

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you just like you just let it fly.

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Speaker 2: You just let it fly.

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Speaker 5: I don't care.

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Speaker 1: So we were tied to the least now until December

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Speaker 3: So this is not how you do that.

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Speaker 1: Dixie Blue Steel says Opie has no self esteem at all. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: That's definitely a factor.

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Speaker 4: I think they're Also they got together at like eighteen first,

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Speaker 2: You know, multiple four children of equal.

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Speaker 4: And yes and the for children and the children. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's so many like red flags here. It's just like, y'all,

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Speaker 4: I think he needs to go figure out what he wants.

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Speaker 4: You need to figure out what he wants your mom.

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Speaker 4: He does want your mon, he wants your mom.

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Speaker 1: He actually let him free, you know, let him fly,

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, wait wait, but the pictures came back

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Speaker 2: Now they're back.

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Speaker 4: He like he like programmed something that's like that like

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Speaker 1: Like you say he sent an email, that's gonna send

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Speaker 1: As of January twenty twenty four, husband started drinking twelve

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Speaker 3: Dude, that is not good.

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Speaker 4: Twelve packs like twelve day like like or a week.

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Speaker 4: No like twelve packs a week like a twelve pack

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Speaker 3: You know, scream at yourself.

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Speaker 2: Husband. I see husband.

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Speaker 1: Close up and he's clearly still intoxicated, bloodshot eyes and

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Speaker 3: The classic stay or just do we really need a

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Speaker 5: We moved on from that.

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Speaker 2: Why we don't need want to make sure everyone's on

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Speaker 5: The same page.

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Speaker 3: She just needs to live.

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Speaker 5: She moves on from all those issues. Do we really

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Speaker 2: I want to pull? I just want to know you're

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Speaker 1: I told him to lower his voice because he was

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Speaker 1: I was sobbing, worried, and I saw her checked in

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Speaker 1: it's about time. It would be about one seven hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: to go through expensive divorces. Yes, yeah, actually, well question

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Speaker 4: I think you you begin the process, you get out

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Speaker 1: I feel like, and I've given this advice to some

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Speaker 1: change if she doesn't leave, And so you have to

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Speaker 1: how can you get out of this lease or live

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Speaker 1: Lady Kaos says divorces are faster and cheaper without a lawyer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you don't have a ton of assets, like.

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Speaker 4: But they've got the kids, and then there's then there's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but well she should start recording all of this. Yeah. Uh,

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Speaker 1: get the receipt get the receipts, get the voice memos,

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Speaker 1: all of that. AQ says separate and say for divorce,

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Speaker 1: friends and family may stay a step up and pay.

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Speaker 1: That's probably true. If you actually take action to leave

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and find your support system, lean on them if

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Speaker 1: When husband got home that day, he apologized and I

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Speaker 1: We never really talked about this moving forward because he

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Speaker 1: I really don't know why I did that. He helps me,

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Speaker 1: He's a good dad, but he frustrates me with how

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Speaker 2: There just's I feel.

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Speaker 3: That's probably the biggest red flag. That's that's probably the

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Speaker 1: So now we're looking for a new apartment, but the

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Speaker 5: Good job, mom.

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Speaker 4: I guess mom's got standards.

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Speaker 5: You told me.

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Speaker 1: What and husband is too young for me anyway, so.

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Speaker 1: Least, like you know she wouldn't sleep with your husband,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I guess if you gave her permission

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's not the moment to make it

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Speaker 4: I mean, don't worry because I would never.

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Speaker 3: I mean, my here's my rules.

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Speaker 4: It's like, I'm not asking you for your sweat rules, Mom,

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Speaker 4: I need support in this moment.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like this is like a secret she keeps to

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Speaker 3: It's like nobody knows her.

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Speaker 1: Story, and I feel like, how are you going to

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Speaker 1: in there, and he's also belligerently drunk, so she's trying

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Speaker 1: to divorce it's been multiple multiple times, and she's finally

450
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: going through with divorce. Yes, so am Ida hole for

451
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: secretly still planning to divorce my husband. I want everyone

452
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: in chat to respond to that. But I also want

453
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Speaker 1: you to respond to the fact that every weekday we

454
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: go live three pm PSD on Facebook and YouTube. We're

455
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Speaker 1: probably live right now, so come join. But there's another

456
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Speaker 1: relevant update. But is Opie the a hole here?

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Speaker 3: No, no, you are not.

458
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Speaker 5: You are not.

459
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 3: There's no way you could be.

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Speaker 4: If anything, if I feel like the mom is more somehow,

461
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Speaker 4: the mom is more of an a hole than you,

462
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Speaker 4: I know, being like yeah, yeah, he's not really my

463
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Speaker 4: it's not he doesn't really fit into my code.

464
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Speaker 2: It's like.

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Speaker 1: Also up in the chat was like, wait, she wasn't

466
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Speaker 1: mad about him stealing her pictures.

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Speaker 4: Right, It's like, there's what's going on there.

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Speaker 6: She kept offending it. She's like, ah, yeah, do you

469
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Speaker 6: want to break up? Though, Like she kept saying, like

470
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Speaker 6: do you want to do this?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I was.

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Speaker 1: Also I also was like, why is op saying do

474
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Speaker 1: you want to break up? Like you, Opie, take some

475
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: of the power, you know, Yeah you got op he

476
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: needs to take her power back, I say, on TikTok

477
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 1: says that's a crazy family, but not the A whole.

478
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: A dash of Starta says, not the a hole. This

479
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: guy is not a good father or husband. Uh correct.

480
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Speaker 1: Cassandra Canaba says, everyone sucks. Ope, you do kind of

481
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Speaker 1: suck to yourself. I feel like you're not giving yourself

482
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Speaker 1: the support that you want. You don't suck like like

483
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: generally like this is a sucky situation, but stand up

484
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Speaker 1: for yourself.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a few too many times where it

487
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Speaker 4: was like, yeah, we just put that behind us and

488
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 4: moved on, where it's like, I don't think you guys

489
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Speaker 4: actually processed some of the things that.

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Speaker 2: There are certain things that you shouldn't put behind, you know,

491
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Speaker 2: and especially your husband stealing your mom's bear pictures. Maybe not.

492
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Speaker 1: Angel Gray from Facebook says, not the a whole getaway.

493
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Speaker 1: I completely agree, but we got a little bit more

494
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Speaker 1: to the story, so edit. I'll be going to a

495
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Speaker 1: therapy session number five this week. I took a loan

496
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Speaker 1: out of my four to one K, paid all outstanding

497
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Speaker 1: bills in our names, and now I'm ready to move

498
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Speaker 1: my Laurie has sent me paperwork also going load to

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Speaker 1: no contact with my parents, as they both agree that

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Speaker 1: since I've talked to husband and he wants to change,

501
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Speaker 1: I should keep an open mind. It's not like he

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Speaker 1: hits me or the girls when he's wasted.

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Speaker 4: That the bar is, that's the bars solar, The bar

504
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Speaker 4: doesn't even exist at that point. The bar is atomic,

505
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Speaker 4: The bar is made out of neutrons.

506
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Speaker 2: The bar is below the oort cloud.

507
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Speaker 1: The bar is the bar is in the center of

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Speaker 1: It's made out of tartar grades grades.

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Speaker 3: They're water bears, which is like a water horse, but different.

510
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Speaker 2: Much more gelatinous than water wars. That's a bulky boy,

511
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Speaker 2: and I do. I want to every day.

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Speaker 1: But you also agree that since I've talked to husband

513
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Speaker 1: and he wants to change, I should keep an open mind.

514
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Speaker 1: It's not like he hits me or the girls when

515
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Speaker 1: he's wasted. So I might even move out of the state,

516
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Speaker 1: who knows, but it won't be with any of them.

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Speaker 2: There is another edit. I finally said my piece and

518
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Speaker 2: acknowledge the problems I brought to my life, and also

519
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Speaker 2: acknowledge how I have stayed complacent with this ish, which

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Speaker 2: I think is completely Yeah, you have, I mean, I

521
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Speaker 2: think that's a good thing to recognize self awareness.

522
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Speaker 1: I'm working on my codependency issues and setting up better,

523
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Speaker 1: more firm boundaries with all relationships.

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Speaker 2: Question mark, question mark, question question buck.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, do that, yeahde do that. Now you're on

526
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Speaker 5: the right track.

527
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Speaker 1: But also, like when you have such terrible relationships all

528
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Speaker 1: around you, like your family's terrible, your partner's terrible, maybe

529
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Speaker 1: your friends are not good too, like you don't really

530
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Speaker 1: have any uh point of reference to understand what good

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Speaker 1: relationships look like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that really that seems like an accurate depiction, especially

533
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Speaker 4: after the the parents being like, oh, he said he

534
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Speaker 4: wants to change, which is not the same thing as changing,

535
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Speaker 4: by the way, that's not what that is. I can

536
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Speaker 4: say I want to change right now, but until I

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Speaker 4: do something about it, I'm not changing.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And then like, yeah, well, even.

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Speaker 4: Though he's like wasted all the time, why it's not like, well,

541
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Speaker 4: come on, it's like.

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Speaker 1: A fun drunk you know. Yeah, oh, so you get

543
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Speaker 1: hacks on my composer. He gives my little pictures a

544
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Speaker 1: little like he.

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Speaker 7: Drives around drunk with your kids. It sounds like a

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Speaker 7: real inner to me, like plays within the lines most

547
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Speaker 7: of the time. Yeah, squints, squints, squid whatever it drives.

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Speaker 4: Slow unacceptable, So you're definitely gonna have to find your

549
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: support system outside of your your parents.

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00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: Well, let me know what you think the chat of

551
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: the comments below. But we're gonna get on to this

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00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: next story, story number two, Story number two. Yeah, we're

553
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: making good time, right, keon, we're making great time. Let's

554
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Speaker 1: freaking go.

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Speaker 6: You should probably tell them why we're doing the Oh,

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00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 6: everyone's very like, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We're on here early because all of us have a

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Speaker 1: Spotify events uh later, so we're gonna be going down

559
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: to downtown all as a squad squatted up podcast squad. Also,

560
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: you can uh listen to us on Spotify if you'd like,

561
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: speaking of spot Speaking of Spotify, you can listen to Spotify.

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00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: But we have to leave like a little bit early.

563
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: So if the stream ends up going longer, we'll we'll

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Speaker 1: apply that to the next. We have to leave it

565
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Speaker 1: like six was longer than that, we'll apply it to

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Speaker 1: the next. Uh stream, Yeah, to the next. But we

567
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Speaker 1: got some dods so oh yeah, wait keon your story,

568
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Speaker 1: Yeah says don't forget the story.

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Speaker 2: Dat shout out chat chat knows what's up.

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Speaker 3: Cha's keeping us, keeping us honest so your parents are swingers.

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Speaker 6: No, there were in my grade school. In kindergarten through

572
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Speaker 6: eighth there was a I'm not gonna say any names.

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Speaker 1: I know who it is. Firefighter. Huh firefighter, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't think her dad was a firefighter.

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Speaker 2: It's very sure her dad was a firefighter. Is it

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Speaker 2: by Jersey Shore?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 6: No, no, it's not one of them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but you don't have referencing right the jersey?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, whoa geez, I don't know what's going he's tatting

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Speaker 6: Skeltons out of my closet. No, this was back to kindergarten,

583
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Speaker 6: and we didn't find out about this in our grade.

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Speaker 6: So our grade was very small. We went to a

585
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Speaker 6: Catholic school. There was about thirty kids on average for

586
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Speaker 6: my grade. One set of parents. They were swingers. We

587
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Speaker 6: didn't know until we got to like eighth grade and

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Speaker 6: like someone's I think one of my friend's parents were like,

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Speaker 6: you guys didn't know that, Like why would we know

590
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Speaker 6: that there're swingers, and like like, oh yeah, kindergarten, they

591
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 6: sent invitations to all the families that they wanted to

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Speaker 6: be swingers school.

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Speaker 5: No, dude, yeah, that's how are you gonna do that?

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Speaker 6: I think my friend's school, Myron, my friend's my friend's mom,

595
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 6: or I wasn't mom his mom yet his mom still

596
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Speaker 6: had the invitation. I was like, why do you have it?

597
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Speaker 6: She's like, it's funny, but we didn't. Like She's like,

598
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Speaker 6: we didn't do it.

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Speaker 5: That was weird.

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Speaker 6: But like, that's such a weird thing to do. Like,

601
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Speaker 6: could you imagine you go to kindergarten like, oh, little

602
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Speaker 6: little Dakota, little Sam, they're getting together, so well, come

603
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Speaker 6: to our place later.

604
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 5: Here's an invitation to be swingers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: It's just like we went through an extensive selection and.

607
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Speaker 6: I've met I've met that classmates parents, and I've been

608
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Speaker 6: to that house and I'm like, whoa, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Are they hot?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

611
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Speaker 2: Are they hot?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, about it.

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Speaker 5: I had to think about it. I had to think

615
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Speaker 5: about it though. I had to think about it.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, we had some swinger parents at my middle

617
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Speaker 2: school too.

618
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Speaker 3: When as I'm completely unaware of any swingers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody said in Catholic schools, like yeah, dude, Catholic school, Catholic.

620
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Speaker 5: School, Oh dude, Catholic school.

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Speaker 6: Is that was my high school, especially with thirty kids,

622
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Speaker 6: that was my high school. That drama was crazy in

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Speaker 6: Catholic schools and we heard parents drama too, were like

624
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Speaker 6: what they.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I got you.

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Speaker 6: Even compared Catholic school, you probably know you probably understand,

627
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Speaker 6: like everything is just like everything's out there, it's kind

628
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 6: of crazy, especially like the all the family retreats.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's because it's touched a tight knit group of people.

631
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: It's just like hear you hear everything.

632
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 5: Drama. Everyone loves drama. It's like it's such a soap opera.

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Speaker 5: Why they're tight