1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hellove everybody, 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: and welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Poulette 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: and I'm an editor here at how stuff works dot com. 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Sitting next to me, as always, is the sunny and 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: genial senior writer Jonathan Strickland. Hey there, build up, I 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 1: just you know, yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't follow that. 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: I love it. So today we're going to talk a 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: little bit. You know, you might remember several podcasts ago 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: we we kind of compared the paper technology world and 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: the computer technology world. Uh well, we started thinking about 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: other topics we could talk about. They're kind of related 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: to that. And one of those is an interesting question 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: that a couple of people have asked, not just us, 16 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: but in general, and that question is how much electricity 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: does the Internet require to work? Lots? Yeah, but if 18 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: you wanted to get a little more specific, actually nobody knows. Yeah, 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: we we can. We can get that out of the way. 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: First thing, We're going to go ahead and be completely 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: straight with you guys. It is practically impossible to say 22 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: with any degree of certainty how much electricity the Internet 23 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: requires to work. Part of the reason for that is 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: that you're talking about such a massive machine, really the 25 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: biggest machine in the in the world, and it's constantly changing. 26 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: It's growing all the time. Uh, the components are changing 27 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: all the time. So what might be true today could 28 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: be completely false in a year from now. It may 29 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: be that perhaps eighteen more data centers go online in 30 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: every region in the United States, and that could change things. 31 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: It could be that some sort of massive energy saving 32 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: technology comes out and that could that could impact it. 33 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: So when we talk about how much electricity the Internet uses, 34 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: keep in mind we're talking about estimates and vague ones 35 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: at that, because a lot of the data that exists 36 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: out there that people basically these sort of estimates on 37 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: is more than a decade old. Yeah, And um, it's 38 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: one of those things too where people are sort of 39 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: extrapolating based on numbers that they do know. So, I mean, 40 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: they're educated guesses when we we do have an idea 41 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: of what's going on. Yeah, I mean, think of it 42 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: this way. Even if we knew down to the very 43 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: last device, how many computers and smartphones and everything else 44 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: were connected to the Internet, including servers. Even if we 45 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: knew all that, we don't necessarily know how often they're 46 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: connected to the Internet. So just because a computer years 47 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: on doesn't necessarily mean it's actually making use of the Internet, 48 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: so it's not putting a drain on any resources. So 49 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: then you're talking about all right, well, now we have 50 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: to estimate not only how many devices are out there, 51 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: but how how much time they're spending on the Internet. Right, 52 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: so this is really about as fast and loose as 53 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: you can possibly get and still have something to talk about. Well, 54 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: we do know that the machines that are using the 55 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: most electricity on the Internet are the servers, the data centers, 56 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: which are sort of little internets in a way. Yeah, 57 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: you could, you could say that the data centers on 58 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: a on an individual basis, the server and a data 59 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: center is using more electricity than any person's computer really, 60 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: unless you're talking about I guess a supercomputer, in which 61 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: case that's a little different. But if you're talking about 62 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: sheer numbers. There are so many computers out there that 63 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: if you were to look at at least some of 64 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: the figures that I looked at, the biggest drain on 65 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: the the electric grid of the the world, really, not 66 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: just the United States, comes from consumer and corporate computers, 67 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: not from data centers. And that's because just from a 68 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: sheer scale, you're talking about just a huge, uh difference 69 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: in numbers. So data centers, yeah, there are a lot 70 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: of them, and there are thousands of servers in these 71 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: data centers, but we're talking millions and millions of computers, 72 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: or even perhaps one billion computers. But I think that 73 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: was a figure that was arrived at maybe a year 74 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: or two ago, and so again not necessarily accurate. Now 75 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: they're probably even more. And also then we get into 76 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: what is a computer. Before we get too far into 77 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: all of these kind of vague discussions that are going 78 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: to take up our next twenty minutes, I think it 79 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: might help to kind of talk about energy and electricity 80 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: in general, about how that's measured. So we generally talk 81 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: about electricity in a term called kill a watt hours, 82 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: which is a unit of energy, and it's essentially the 83 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: equivalent to one kill a lot of power expended over 84 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: the course of one hour. All right. So the reason 85 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: why we do this is because energy is essentially a 86 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: measurement of power times time. So it's the amount of 87 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: power times the amount of time that that power is expended. 88 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: That's how you get energy and kill what hour unit 89 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: of energy? Now, when we're talking about global electricity use 90 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: as far as the Internet goes, we're talking in the 91 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: tarole wat range tarra watt hour range. And to give 92 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: you guys an idea, Okay, so I kill a what 93 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: is a thousand watts? A mega watt is a thousand 94 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: kill a watts? A giga what is a thousand megawatts? 95 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: And a tara lot is a thousand giga watts? So 96 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: huge number here, enormous number. It's too big for me 97 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: to actually imagine. I know what, I know it exists, 98 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: but I can't fit it into my head, right right. 99 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: It's nice of them to use these terms that we 100 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: would probably be familiar with from things like bites. Yeah, 101 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: it's it's nice that it's not you know, a jot 102 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: and then a bit tool and then four handspans and 103 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: then a furlong. Yeah, that would be really confusing. Yeah, 104 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: thank you for the metric system. Um, So here's a 105 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: here's a study that was done back in and it 106 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: was done by Berkeley Labs Environmental Energy Technologies Division, the 107 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: End Use Energy Forecasting group led by Dr Jonathan kumi 108 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: who I have I've seen his notes on several different 109 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: message boards about this subject. Dr Kumy is still very 110 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: much active in this kind of study. Now back in 111 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: the Berkeley group actually had money to conduct this study. 112 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: I think he said that it costs somewhere around the 113 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: three dollar range to do the study because you're you're 114 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: you're compiling lots and lots of data. You have to 115 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: gather all this information and then you have to make 116 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: sense of it and um and then actually does take 117 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: a lot of time and money. It sounds like it 118 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't you know. It sounds like something you could plug 119 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: into Wolf from ALFA and get an answer immediately. It's 120 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: not the way this works. So their analysis said that 121 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: the total electricity used by office and network equipment is 122 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: about seventy four tara watt hours per year, which was 123 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: about two percent of the total electricity use in the 124 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: United States. And then if you were to throw in 125 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: telephone switching equipment and manufacturing energy for semiconductors and computers, uh, 126 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: it knocked it up to about three of all electricity 127 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: in use in the United States. So why would you 128 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: throw in the telephone switching. Well, because modems. The studies 129 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: done in it was based on figures from ninety and 130 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: we didn't all have DSL lines and cable modems at 131 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: that point, right, and so we're talking seventy four Tara 132 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: Lott hours at that time. That's a huge amount. Uh. 133 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: And this was just for the United States to this 134 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: was not a global study, so we're really talking about 135 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: just one nation. But the other problem that we have 136 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: here is that if you're talking about figures that are 137 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: based off of n equipment, a lot has changed in 138 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: the years between and now we are using computers that 139 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: have much more efficient monitors. Were using a lot more laptops, 140 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: which in general consume less energy than a desktop computer would, 141 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: but there are also lots and lots more of them. 142 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: So you have to figure, all right, well, the energy 143 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: efficiency angle, how much does that impact this equation the 144 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: number of computer is, how has that impacted? Uh? The 145 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: and you start to see where the problem is here. 146 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: You can't just easily adjust these numbers and say, oh, well, 147 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: let's just you know, we'll fudge this one a little 148 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: bit and we'll switch this one a little bit. Um 149 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: without a full study. You can't say for sure how 150 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: much energy is being consumed. True enough, UM, I actually uh, 151 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: I did a blog post on the tech stuff blog 152 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: not too long ago, um that uh, in which I 153 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: quoted Bobby Johnson who published in the Guardian, the paper 154 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: from the United Kingdom, and UM, basically uh the information 155 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: I had read. And there are actually a couple of 156 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: articles in the Guardian about UH these topics. So apparently 157 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: they are among those who are interested in finding out more. Um. 158 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of people who are starting 159 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: to become concerned by the uh energy usage from the Internet. 160 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, UM, from from what I can tell, experts 161 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: believe that data centers on the Internet U use about 162 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty two billion kilowatt hours of electricity per year, 163 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: and that's two percent of the world's carbon dioxide emissions 164 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: as well. UM. As a matter of fact, uh, a 165 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: thousand searches apparently create about the same uh CEO two 166 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: emissions as an average European car going one kilometer according 167 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: to the Guardian. So UM, you know that's just I 168 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: figure a thousand searches in Google that's you know, probably 169 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: as much as we do in a day at how 170 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: stuff works with the editorial staff. Maybe Lamborghini one kilometer average. Yeah, 171 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: I don't think Lamborghini is an average European car. Don't 172 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: get destroy my fantasies of how people live in Europe. Oh, 173 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: you could ask the guys at high Speed stuff if 174 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: that's accurate. I'll stop in next time they're recording. But 175 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: the thing is um the Climate Group says emissions related 176 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: to computers are probably going to go up around that's 177 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: a hundred one point for gigatons of carbon dioxide by 178 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: because the Internet is just growing at that sort of 179 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: a rate. That's pretty significant. Yeah, and back in two 180 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: thousand seven, there were some people who attempted to take 181 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: another stab at guestimating. Essentially. I mean, I'm it sounds 182 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm slapping them for their their efforts, But really, 183 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: when you get down to it, when you don't have 184 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: the data in front of you, it is a guestimation. 185 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: It's hard to quantify something like this too, because it's 186 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: so you know, how would you break down the energy 187 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: from somebody's electric meter on the side of their house 188 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: and say, oh, well, you know your fridge used you 189 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: know an eight to this, Yeah, and you have to 190 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: figure out as well. Even with servers. I mean there 191 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: there's a difference between the amount of energy a server 192 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: will consume at a peak time versus a trough um. 193 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: That's all that's called your your load differential. There, you 194 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: know your difference and load and the uh if you 195 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: if you have a really efficient server, um, the difference 196 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: is going to be minor, like within the five to 197 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: ten percent range where your your server will be consistent 198 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: and it's not gonna very wildly from full use to 199 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: trough use. And that's just meaning that it's very efficient, 200 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: not that it's not that it's the all underpowered or 201 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: anything like that. Um, you know, before we go on, 202 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: just going to say too that I think that I'm 203 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: just guessing, but I'm betting that the data centers, the 204 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: facts and figures that we're seeing from the data centers, 205 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: probably don't take into account the massive amount of air 206 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: conditioning needed to keep those machines cool. Right, So you're 207 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: not breaking down the different you're you're breaking down the 208 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: building as a whole. You know, say well, this Google 209 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: data center uses x amount of electricity per year, Well 210 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't say well, part of that the lighting for 211 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: the people who work in the building, and part of 212 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: that is the you know, fifty three air conditioning units 213 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: sitting on the roof and all that stuff. It doesn't 214 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't go any further than that. Yeah, well there's 215 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: and there are some studies that specify whether or not 216 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: they take that kind of thing into account. And of 217 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: course not all data centers use air conditioning. Some use 218 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: water cooling systems instead. And I was going to mention 219 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: something along those lines in a minute. All right, well, 220 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 1: then I'll leave that for then. But the actually I 221 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: should say that when I said a load differential, that's 222 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: that's actually my brain throwing a wrong word, and it 223 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: should have been load factor. I'm just gonna say that 224 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: now because I'm sure people are already emailing me. But 225 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: now that you've hit send, just know that I did 226 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: eventually get around to getting it right. Um so the 227 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: uh but no, Back in two thousand seven, this other 228 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: study that I was talking about, it's not even really 229 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: a full study. Uh, there was a question online about well, 230 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: how much electricity does the internet use? And people were 231 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: talking about this study and trying to extrapolate from that 232 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: how much energy was being used at that time At 233 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousand seven. So the person who 234 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: tackled this came up with some interesting numbers. Uh. He 235 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: decided that, UM, once he studied this carefully, said that 236 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: the world consumption in billions of kilowatt hours for a 237 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: for data centers was a hundred and twelve point five 238 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: billion kilowatt hours. All right, the PCs and monitors five 239 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: eight billion kilowatt hours, bodem's routers and that sort of 240 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: thing hundreds or hundred sixty seven billion kilowatt hours, and 241 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: then phone network one billion kilowatt hours for a grand 242 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: total of approximately eight hundred sixty eight billion kilowatt hours. 243 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: And that was in two thousand seven. But here's the 244 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: thing was that he was basing this off of figures 245 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: for um, these older computers, So he's looking at power 246 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: consumption figures from years and years ago. So we're talking 247 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: about old CRT monitors which were not as efficient necessarily 248 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: as some of the l C D and plasma monitors 249 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: that we have today. Yeah, you know, I saw a 250 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: number on NPR that was interesting. Um. Their website said that, uh, 251 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: this is not kill a lot hours, but um, they 252 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: say that in the United States, more than one billion 253 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: dollars has spent every year keeping on computer monitors that 254 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: are not really in use. Right, that's you know how 255 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: accurate that is, But that's you know, I would I 256 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: believe it. People leave their computers on and screens are 257 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: are pretty they're pretty energy and hungry, and uh yeah, 258 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: so put your computers to sleep, or at least your 259 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: monitors the So yeah, the this eight h sixty eight billion. 260 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: It's one of those figures that some people like to 261 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: to say that's how much energy the Internet consumes per year, 262 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: and other people point out, well, that's not really true 263 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: because we don't have enough information. We don't you know 264 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: this this is taking into account old equipment. And yeah, 265 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: while monitors have gotten better over the years, we've also 266 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: had faster processors, which consume more powers. So as monitors 267 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: have become more efficient, processors have demanded more energy. So 268 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: it's again one of these sort of seesaw things. You 269 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: have to look at all the different factors and there's 270 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: no easy way to say, all, right, well, how many 271 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: high end computers are out there, how often are they 272 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: accessing the Internet. How many low end computers are there, 273 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: like netbooks, how many netbooks those are accessing the Internet 274 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: all the time because they don't have the native capabilities 275 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: to really do everything you need to do on the 276 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: computer itself. So that's why this this conversation is a 277 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: difficult one to have, but sixty eight billion, it's good 278 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: number to kind of keep in the back of your mind. 279 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: That's sort of a best guess right now. But we're 280 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit more about energy, I assume 281 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: because you had some stuff about water coolings the THEMS 282 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: at least. Yeah, one of the uh, they're talking about supercomputers. 283 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: I ran across some information about IBMS Power five seven 284 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: five supercomputer UM, which actually was linked to from one 285 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: of the other posts, and I thought this was pretty 286 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: cool because it's got it uses water chilled copper plates 287 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: over each of its microprocessors UM and that's a lot 288 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: because they're four processor course on each rack of the 289 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: supercomputer UM. But the water cooling uses less electricity than 290 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 1: you would using traditional cooling methods, so that's also much 291 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: more efficient. Yeah, because you know, if you think things 292 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: like that could help us cut down Yeah, when you 293 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: think about it, UM, water is just it's a it's 294 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: a better cooling system because it as a fluid. It 295 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: is more efficient at carrying heat away, and you can 296 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: just run water across, uh, you know, using some sort 297 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: of tube system. Obviously you're not just you're not just 298 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: dousing serves and water necessarily. You know, I tried that. 299 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: I just turned a hose on my computer in it. 300 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: It's it doesn't run that way at all. Why, Yeah, 301 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: that's probably a bad way to do a water cooling system. 302 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: But if you're doing it correctly, and the fire department 303 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: was upset too, sure the water, the water will carry 304 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: the heat away much more efficiently than air will. And 305 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: you can then reclaim the water, you know, you you 306 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: just cycle it exactly. You just you know, move it 307 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: through so that it can release the heat, and you 308 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: reclaim the water. You cycle it back through, so it's 309 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: not like you're using tons and tons of water and 310 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: it's just going to waste. You're using the same water 311 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: in the system, and then occasionally, I'm sure, replenishing it, 312 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: but not like not like you just turned the tap 313 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: on and let it go. You know, I wish I 314 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: had made the turning the hose on the computer joke 315 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: because I was going to say, yeah, and if you 316 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: put the fish in there, that the heat kind of 317 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: cooks the fish. But yeah, I've already made a joke, 318 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: so I won't make um. You know, one of the 319 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: things that I found that was funny was and the 320 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: reason I find it funny is because it's so contested. 321 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: But um blogger and author Nicholas carr Uh said he 322 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: he did a blog post that a lot of people 323 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: disagree with a few months ago, but it said, um, 324 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: the Second Life avatars themselves, just keeping the avatars running 325 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: use one thousand, seven or fifty two kilowatt hours per year. 326 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 1: The average human uses two thousand four and thirty six 327 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: kilowte hours per year. But uh, about the person the 328 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: average person in Brazil, The average Brazilian uses one thousand 329 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: four kilo one hours, So basically Second Life people in 330 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: Second Life use almost as much electricity as the average Brazilian. 331 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: He says, Now he's you know a lot of people 332 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: disagree with him, but if it's even close to that, 333 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: now they do they leave the company that that runs 334 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: Second Life, leaves the servers running and the avatars are 335 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: on for as long as that's the thing they got in. 336 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: They broke it down and said, well, you know, if 337 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: the avatar is only on for two hours there. You know, 338 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: such and such average people online, and it's not all 339 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: the people on Second Life versus the average Brazilian who 340 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: you know runs twenty four hours a day. Uh so, Yeah. 341 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: I just think it's funny though, to compare a virtual 342 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: person to a human being. Um, you know, I would 343 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: imagine that they're probably I don't know how accurate it is, 344 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: but I would imagine that it's got to to run 345 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: all those those data centers to keep the world of 346 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: Second Life going. Um, you know, it would be at 347 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: least reasonably comparable to what happening been in Second Life. See, 348 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: they just need to hit that switch. They just need 349 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: to hit that switch. I mean, you know, it's no 350 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: reason to keep that going, is all I'm saying. Alright, alright, 351 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: so I've got nothing more to say about Second Life. 352 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: I've never tried it. Yeah, well, you value your sanity, 353 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: you just keep it that way. There are some cute 354 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: things about Second Life. I wrote how Second Life works, 355 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: all right, and it's there are some people who are 356 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: legitimately using that as a way to make friends and 357 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: and have fun conversations and chat about all sorts of stuff, 358 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: and they enjoy being able to modify their avatars, and 359 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: so I guess they're the ones who are chalking up 360 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: these kill of one hours because they're the ones who 361 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: are going back over and over again. But then there's 362 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: everything else, and there's a lot of everything else. Yeah, 363 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: and everything else. I mean like some pretty hardcore porn stuff. 364 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah it's special, right. I didn't write too much about 365 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: that in the article, but yeah, wow yeah, okay, alright, 366 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: so moving on, So do you have anything else about electricity? No? No, Um, 367 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: I just wish that we were able to deliver a 368 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: hard and definitive numbers, and this is absolutely it. But 369 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: I feel the same way. So if there are any 370 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: research institutions out there who wish to grant us three 371 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: to four hundred thousand dollars to do a study, we 372 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: will happily accept that money and we will see you 373 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: in our research center, which happens to be on the 374 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: big Island of Hawaii. Um. It's just that was the 375 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: best place we could put it. So if you want 376 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: to give us that, we will report back to you 377 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: in ten maybe fifteen years. Okay, then sounds good to me. 378 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: So I guess that just brings us round two. Listener man, 379 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, today's listener mail comes from Chad from Montana, 380 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: a Big Sky. Hello. First off, love the podcast. You 381 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: guys do an excellent job of explaining things in a 382 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: way easily understood. You make tech stuff interesting and not overwhelming. 383 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: Thanks you're welcome. I have a question for you. I 384 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: don't really recall hearing too much about bits and PCs 385 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: until Windows Vista came out, and it seemed like it 386 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: was front and center, and how software hardware wouldn't be 387 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: compatible anymore because one was on a thirty two bit 388 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: and the other was on the sixty four bit. I'll 389 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: be honest, I really don't even understand what they mean 390 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: when they say thirty two bit or sixty four bit, 391 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: And when I tried to ask a computer salesman what 392 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: it meant, he couldn't even give me an easy answer. 393 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: So this seemed like an excellent question for the fab 394 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: tech duo. How do bits work? And how is sixty 395 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: four different from thirty two? Trying to fit it into 396 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: the how theme? If possible, please address Mac users and 397 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: also snow Leopard and Windows XP Vista and seven. Thanks well, Chad. 398 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: Here's the nice thing is, once you understand how this works, 399 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: it applies to everything across the board. It's it's not 400 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: something where it's different for Windows versus snow Leopard versus 401 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: anything else. So let's start with bits. Now. Bits are 402 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: your basic information units, right, and they come in two varieties, 403 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: zero and one, unless you're using a quantum computer, in 404 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: which case it can be both zero and one and 405 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: everything in between. That's a cubit uh. And we'll talk 406 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: about quantum computers in some future podcast when both of 407 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: us are ready to tackle quantum physics. But your basic 408 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: bit is a zero or one. You can think of 409 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: it like a switch, you know, it's like on or off. 410 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: And then if you put two bits together, then suddenly 411 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: you can have up to four integers represented. You have 412 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: a quarter ha ha ha, two bits, nice shaven a haircut. 413 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: So but you can have up to you can represent 414 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: up to four different states using two bits. And by 415 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: that I mean you could have a zero, zero, zero, one, 416 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: one zero or one one. And so every single time 417 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: you add a bit, you increase the number of integers 418 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: you can represent. Um and engine roll any for any 419 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: number of bits, it results in two to that number 420 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: in integers. So if you were to use two bits, 421 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: maybe two to the power of two, which is four. Right. Uh, Now, 422 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: thirty two bit processor can handle up to thirty two 423 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: zeros and ones all strung together in various states, and 424 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: that results in oh, four point three billion integers. That's 425 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: how many different integers you can have with a thirty 426 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: two bit system. Yeah, but a sixty four bit system, 427 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: now sixty four bit, that results in one point eight 428 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: times ten to the nineteenth power integers, which I looked 429 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: this up is eighteen quintillion integers. Now, if you're wondering 430 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: what a quintillion is, it goes billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion, 431 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: So it's lots. Now, when we're talking about a thirty 432 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: two bit system or sixty four bit system, we're really 433 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: talking about the processor here, all right. So your processor, 434 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: what it's doing is it has and it has a 435 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: set of instructions that it has to uh complete upon 436 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: a set of data. Now the thirty two bit or 437 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: sixty four bit that refers to the amount the kind 438 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: of data that's coming into the processor. If it's a 439 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: thirty two bit processor, that means it can accept digits 440 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: of up to the thirty two bits. It can't accept 441 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: anything more than that because it's just not capable of 442 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: doing it. That's it's beyond its processing power. So a 443 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: sixty four bit processor can process sixty four bit information. 444 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: So if you have a thirty two bit processor, you 445 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: cannot use an operating system that is the sixty four 446 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: bit variety because it is asking too much of your processor. 447 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: Your processor can't handle that data flow, not normally. No, 448 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: and why would you want you know, why is this important? 449 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: What's the thirty two bit and sixty four bit? What's 450 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: the deal? It becomes important when you're using really high 451 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: end applications, things like three D modeling, video process, video processing. 452 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: Maybe some really really heavy audio processing too, that can 453 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: also do it. But video processing really because you're talking 454 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: about rendering and things like that. Um, if you are 455 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: doing cryptography, cryptography involves factoring very large numbers. So the 456 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: more the larger amount of information your processor can handle, 457 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: the more complex you can make your your cryptography programs 458 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: so that it is very difficult to crack. So essentially 459 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: it can handle more calculations and some more advanced you're 460 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: doing more advanced computing, you can handle word right, it 461 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: can do bigger calculations in the same amount of time 462 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: that a weaker processor would do smaller calculations. I guess 463 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: you could think of it that way. Okay, So yeah, 464 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: it's not that the thirty two bit processor couldn't run 465 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: the same applications. It probably could, it just would be 466 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: much slower. So I hope that answers your question. Chad, Uh, 467 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: we thought we'd take a stab at it. 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