WEBVTT - Golden Hour 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:06.000 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:09.520 Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:13.080 home office in Austin, Texas. And you know, can I 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:17.319 still say happy holidays because it's time for the kids 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:19.279 and everybody to go back to school. It's time to 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:22.720 get back to what is This has been the long 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.640 COVID version of the holidays. These holidays will not end. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.000 No, here's well, here's what it is. I think they're 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.680 on weird days this year, like New Year's Day being 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.479 on a Monday that felt weird Christmas and so it 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.280 made the whole week feel totally thrown How many times 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.640 of us said wait, what day is it? And I think, honey, 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.480 that we just have two kids in college right now. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:45.919 They have a month long break. And by the way, 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.280 here's how we're feeling. We love them. We are so 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.640 happy they're at home. It has been an awesome trip. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:52.760 I know that they're ready to get rid of us 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:54.680 at this point. They want to go back to their lives. 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.120 We were talking today in the kitchen and they were 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.480 both like kind of had long faces and they're like 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:02.440 they were both talking and I walked in on the 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.240 conversation about they're ready to get back that they're not 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.960 exactly excited to get back to school, but they're ready 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.400 to get back to school because that's their lives. And 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.360 I remember, even though it was like back in the 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:17.240 dark ages, go, you know, so ready to go back 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.320 to school because you've built your life with your friends, 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.640 fraternity brothers sorority sisters, your club, your soccer, your sports, 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.720 whatever it is. And then you kind of get ripped 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.600 out of it. You go home and it's kind of refreshing. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.280 You're back in your own bed, You're eating some home 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.720 cooked meals, you got a washer and dryer, but man, 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:31.760 it goes quick. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.080 Well, it's not good for anybody to go too long 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:39.200 without a daily routine, and with these breaks especially, I 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.679 think for kids in who have parents who are divorced 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.520 and they have to go to each family and they 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.360 might be in different states. They can't really work during 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.760 the winter break. It's like not enough time to get 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.000 a job, you know, it's not summer. But so then 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.360 they like don't have a routine during the day. How 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.360 long is a high school break, I don't remember. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.320 They all went back to school, so they everyone pretty 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.760 much got out the fifteenth of December, that that Friday 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.480 whatever that that actually hit well, and then it was 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.880 probably going back this last Monday. 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.280 Here's what I think every school winter break should be 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.880 three weeks. I think that's the right amount. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.160 Because we're coming up to the Martin Luther King Holiday, right, 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.080 and now our kids are not only off for the holidays, 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.200 they're now off for the next MLK day. Then they're 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:21.280 going back to school. 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:22.720 Yeah, and I know. 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.560 Some colleges down in the SEC, down in the South, 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.799 they're going the following week. They're still out another week, 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.480 which is just insane. So and you know when they 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:32.920 get out for. 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:38.680 Picture this imagine going to stay home with your parents 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.800 now for a month, no zero. They have to be 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:43.560 so sick of us. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.400 Well because I don't get the you know, because I 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.640 don't have the bribe of home cooked meals, the washer 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.399 and dryer being such a novelty. At least we got 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.480 that over the kids. But we had a great holiday 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.280 and it's still going on. You know, it's we're pretty 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.959 much going to get into spring break and we're still 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:58.800 going to be But we. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.440 Did something that I'm not sure we've ever done with 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.160 the kids before. Because I don't know if many gen 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.240 z ers do it. We watched some of the Golden 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:12.239 Globes with Taylor. Yes, like I've never and I think 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:13.880 that when I was when I know that. When I 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.480 was younger, I watched Awards shows because back then that 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.440 was the only time you saw celebrities. Now they're on 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.560 social media. So the Golden Globes, we watched them with Taylor. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:23.960 It was interesting to kind of watch it through her eyes. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.200 You realize it makes you feel a little old because 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.080 you realize she doesn't know a lot of like the 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.600 older movie stars were. 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.680 We Is it because we've moved out of Hollywood and 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.360 you know, both both you and I worked. I've worked 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.760 the red carpet, so have you. We've been to all 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.960 the parties. One of the last things we did in 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.080 la before we moved was going to the Gold Globes 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:45.440 parties and all that, and it was fun. It's a 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.640 great of all the parties. I would say the Globes 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.480 are fun because everybody's in the Hilton there and it's 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:55.120 it's kind of everyone's together. But you and I both 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.000 didn't know they were on. Is it? Is it a 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.880 lack of what's the lack of awareness anymore. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.520 I was texting with a friend. Apparently CBS just got 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.000 the rights to the Globes because remember the Globes went 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.000 through this controversy in the past couple of years. The 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.880 Hollywood Foreign Press Association was under fire for its lack 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.800 of diversity. They were kind of disbanded. NBC didn't air 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:16.880 refuse to air the Globes a few years ago. I 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:21.080 think they went up for sale. Apparently CBS, my former employer, 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.680 got the rights just a few weeks ago, so there 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.680 wasn't a lot of promotion. Joe Koy, the host, said 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.200 he only got the gig ten days beforehand. I heard 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.240 reports that a lot of people turned it down. So overall, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.960 we watched a little of the Globes. I didn't really 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.480 see the red carpet beforehand, the red carpet coverage. 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.800 Yeah, I saw no red carpet coverage, but we watched 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:43.920 the monologue on. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:49.160 Yes and the Globes are back numbers wise, I mean, 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.440 not back, but a lot better than last year, which 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.360 was a record low. But I feel like the past 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.880 couple of days I've spent discussing what is the future 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.479 of awards shows, like did you think the Globes were good. 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:05.039 Well, in all fairness, and I'm not getting on this globeuse. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.960 I think it did a one point four rating in 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.720 the demographic, which is that eighteen to forty nine year 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:14.200 old coveted demographic. I believe six and a half maybe 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:18.240 seven million viewers. I mean, that's fine if you're like 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.680 in CIS or something like, if you're a regular show 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.320 a Survivor finale on CBS, one point four would be good. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:30.440 An award show, live event like football Football was on 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:34.160 at the same time Bill's Dolphins. It probably did fourteen 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:38.280 to eighteen million viewers, so two to three x when 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.159 the Globes did. So that just tells you these shows 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.359 have become I don't know if they've become obsolete, and 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.360 I'm not trying to be mean at all, but they 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:53.400 have become not the relevant talking point they used to be. 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.039 Well, I think there's a couple of things that aren't 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.479 their fault. Like one, again, this used to be the 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.880 only place you could see celebrities. Now you see them 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:02.960 on social media everywhere. Two, This award shows used to 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.640 be one of the only places you could see really 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:09.559 great fashion. Now we see fashion on social media constantly. Three. 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.520 You know, the pandemic didn't help. It accelerated down a 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:18.719 decline that was already happening. But I also think, and 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.560 I don't know where this starts, the chicken or the 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.800 egg of it all overall, my biggest issue with the 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:28.919 Globes it just wasn't that fun. These awards shows aren't 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.480 fun anymore. First of all, let's talk about Joe Coy. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.000 I have a new term for a bad joke. I 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:36.520 call it a joke Coy. 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.520 He's now become the punchline of a joke. Ironically, he 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.080 is the funny punchline of a joke. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:48.760 So the jokes were okay, I'll give him this. People 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.000 say this who have hosted these shows. And Steve Martin 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:52.640 just came out and defended him a little bit, because 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.960 Steve Martins hosted the Oscars and other awards shows over 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:59.359 the years. And Steve Martin said, it's a very difficult job. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.880 Congrats to him because he took on the toughest gig 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:09.920 in show business. Now I know that it's difficult. But 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:15.360 the low hanging fruit jokes by Joe Cooy, Yeah, the 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:19.040 joke about Barbie being a movie about a doll with 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.600 big boobs, the joke about like, I don't know why 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.640 we would there. I think there was a a joke, 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:29.280 you know, a joke about Barry Keyogan's penis. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.840 It was just so the Oppenheimer needed to be an 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.720 hour longer. That kind of it was just it was 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:34.480 so basic. 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.720 And then he turned on his writers in the middle 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.680 of the monologue started blaming them, saying, I didn't write 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.200 the jokes that you're not laughing at. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.680 You know what I noticed about the whole room just 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.560 to start the look of it, because they changed the room. 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.760 They added that so if you noticed, it was kind 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.480 of in the round. They had the regular stage that 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.840 they're always on. It's the same ballroom. It's at the 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:56.720 Beverly Hilton there and Beverly Hill as you can drive 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:01.040 by it at Wilshire and what is that right there? 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:05.000 Santa Monica right there in Beverly Hill's same hotel forever. 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.800 But they added this circular thing in the round, and 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:13.040 they the stage. They took away cameramen and women and 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.760 added they just put in electronic cameras. Did you notice 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.480 that there was like three cameras on the stage that 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.160 would electronically come up to either hit the host or 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.440 the presenters or whoever it was. It was a really 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:27.640 weird thing. So anyway, the point is they took much 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.920 of that lower room where all the big stars usually sit. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.120 So to me, it looked like ten pounds of you 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.160 know what shoved in a five pound sack. 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.000 The whole room looked so crowded. 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.000 Everybody couldn't get to the stage. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.160 People knew it was most of the shows. People walking 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.200 around people's chairs. It was so like there, and that 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.240 to me is so basic, Like I get it, CBS, 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.440 you only just got the show. But think about if 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.440 when we were planning our wedding we were thinking about 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.520 how much space there was between tables for people to 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:55.920 walk around. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.840 Bradley Cooper looked like he was at a Catholic mass. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.800 He got up and down out of his seat so 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.960 much it looked like he was praying because he had 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.200 to get up every time someone came back because there 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.800 was no room to just walk to the stage. Rule 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.760 number one, people are gonna win, get them to the stage. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.440 It looked it just looks so wed, I know, And. 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.080 You know, I was texting my friend and I was 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:17.840 my friend who used to work at ET and we 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.600 were like are we just burnt out because we worked 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.160 in the industry. But I'm looking at it thinking we've 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.160 done this before. We've been doing the Globes for decades. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.679 How do we not know space the room out a 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.640 little bit. How do we not know don't make people 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.960 walk along time to the stage because that's just dead air. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.240 How do we not know the guy doing the monologue 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.560 like it can be a little better. I know that 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:44.040 it's tough because you're playing to a very varied group 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.080 of people, not only in the room and at home. 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.280 But I actually think it's time for us to be 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:53.040 done with hosts that award shows. It doesn't work ninety 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.480 percent of the time. The only times I can remember 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.240 the Globes being great were when it was Tina Fey 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.880 and Amy pull her together and some people like Tricky, 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.280 I mean, you were the best. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:06.679 We love Ricky Gervais, meaning the rest of America. The 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:10.760 Hollywood crowd did not like Ricky Gervais because he absolutely 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.920 came for them. He came for them, the Jeffrey Epstein jokes, 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.360 the Weinstein jokes, the I mean he he just would 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.000 shine a big bright light on the hypocrisy that is 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.800 Hollywood and the rest of us loved it because it 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.640 was so fantastic and it was spot on. The glarees 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.800 and the odd looks if I'll never forget like Tom 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.120 Hanks looking around so uncomfortably, and I mean so he 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.280 it was like he just made Hollywood so uncomfortable. But 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:40.320 it was brilliant. Now, Amy Poehler, Tina Fey a plus plus. 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.440 So they did it the best. I think at this 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.959 point the comedians, because I hear a lot of people 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.920 be like like, for example, Kristin Wigan, Will Ferrell, Oh 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.160 my gosh. I love seeing them together again as presenters. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.240 They were so funny and I thought to myself, this 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.680 is what the show should be. Just have really good 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:00.120 presenting pairs, people who know each other. Andrew Day and 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.880 John Batiste were so funny together. Put together people who 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.520 know each other do not do. Kevin Costner and America 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:10.000 Frera a poor America Frera up. There was drowning happened. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.200 I don't know what Kevin Costner was doing. I don't 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.040 think he had read through it. I don't think he 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.359 knew what he was saying. Maybe he needed his reading glasses. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.040 I was so uncomfortable and America Freerrah God bless her 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.400 tried to carry on and still hit her punchlines. It 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.480 was horror. I just wanted music to play and go 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.640 to commercial. It was so horrifying. I don't know what 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:29.280 happened there. 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.640 So I think pairs of presenters who are friends who 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.920 can do really well together, just because also I like 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.199 I heard like Taylor said to me, Oh my gosh, 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.360 Will Ferrell and Kristen Wig were so funny together. Why 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:43.400 don't they just get them to host? 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.280 By the way, the Suits reunion, that was great. Loved 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.040 seeing them back on stage, and that was a really 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.640 cute joke about taking so long for a show to 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.920 be recognized. So I agree, But. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.920 I said to Taylor, Hey, it's not that they haven't 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:00.199 asked them. These comedians like a Will Ferrell and Kristini, 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.679 it is so much more advantageous to them to say 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:05.959 we're just going to come out crush our two minutes 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.720 of presenting. We're not going to take the risk of 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.599 being because the Joe Koy job, the host job, is 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.640 a risk. It can be hugely detrimental to your career. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:15.960 This was not a win for him. 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.600 I mean, he can still be doing a stand up 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:18.240 at the Laugh. 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:19.880 Fame and I've never watched his stand up, but it's 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.320 probably not reflective. He's probably a better stand up comedian 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:22.600 of the SAE. 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.360 Some comedians have come out and said that, you know, 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.760 this is not indicative of how funny he can be 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.960 and all that. Look. I don't know, but he was 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.920 up against it. Eventually, you're going to get to someone 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.560 who will say yes for the job. Ten days out 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.480 that's an impossible task to come in and try and 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:41.400 host the Golden Globes. But knowing that you should have 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.760 accepted the loss and just kind of stayed a little straighter, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.680 hit a couple of jokes and just moved on. It 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.400 was an impossible job, but he really made it worse 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.160 by the jokes he made. And I the other thing 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.560 I would say is we're done with the voiceover, going in. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.720 And out the voiceovers. We're so it's. 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:04.000 Usually it Usually it's one of the disc jockey's, one 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.560 of the DJ's radio people from LA that that do it. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.240 And it's not their fault because somebody writes it. And 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.800 if you don't know what we're talking about, it's coming 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:16.120 up after the break. Meryl Streep is, you know, sitting 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.960 around waiting to see if if you know, and they 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.479 take a shot at Meryl Streep and it's Martin Scorsese. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.400 The Martin Scorsese one was the worst one because they'd 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.960 clearly pre planned it. But oh my gosh, we need 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.600 to pivot. The Martin scor Sayse voiceover was coming up. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:35.320 Martin Scorsese can't sit still, and he was literally sitting side. 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:38.160 I think he did fall asleep. 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.800 Look, there are so many stars. That's the beautiful thing 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.360 about the Globes is you do have so many big 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.400 stars in that room. You don't need a voiceover. You 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.400 don't need to tell somebody what's coming up next. We 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:53.240 know what we're watching. Just show stars, Just show Taylor Swift, 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:57.000 Jennifer Aniston, Bradley Cooper, you know, Jason Bateman was right there, 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.760 Joaquin Phoenix. You had Timothy Shalome right there. 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.360 Come we have lost the fun. They were so cheesy. 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:05.719 Let's talk a book. I'm thinking of what you just 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:10.120 brought up, Joaquin Phoenix. Let's process this. At one table 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:15.760 was Joaquin Phoenix, Nicholas Cage, and Jared Leto. That is 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.200 the weirdest table the most. I say this with love 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:19.840 for all of them. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.920 You know what it is. That's the table and you 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.080 and I just had this issue. You get to your 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:28.080 wedding and there's like that person that doesn't quite fit 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:29.640 and you're not sure what to do with them. So 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.160 you have this table that's like table X at your wedding. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:34.920 It's like, well, what do we do with Jared Letto? 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.280 I don't know, he's kind of on his own. Well 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.200 there's Nick Cage. All right, Well let's put like, you know, 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.440 Timothy Schalome there too. But it was funny because poor 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.920 uh Joaquin Phoenix wasn't his fault, but he was on 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.280 camera a lot the way they were shooting back towards 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.240 that screen, and he just had his hand, you know, 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.440 his head in his hand, like half asleep, like oh God, 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.360 like just let this be over, Kate. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.840 But why can the voice of or not be Well 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.600 there's Jared Lettow class Cage walking in Phoenix. What the 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.840 hell are they talking about? Like what a table is that? 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.640 Like? Have writers have late night writers ready to go 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:11.240 with jokes? Or just my thing is NAT Sound go 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.960 to break with fifteen seconds of nat Sound of stars. 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.680 You're showing ted last because it's the one room I 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:22.520 will say where you have these amazing get togethers because 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.400 we are so compact in those rooms. It's all of 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:29.280 a sudden, Ted Lasso Jason Sedeikis is talking to Meryl Streep. 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:33.160 You never see that, right, you see Meryl Streep hugging 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.000 Jennifer Aniston or you just see these weird kind of 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.600 You're like, oh, I didn't know. Everybody was freaking out 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.680 about Bill Hayter and dating the Alley one Elli Wong. 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.160 Everyone's like, stop the Internet. I didn't know they were dating. 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.480 So show that, just show. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:49.760 That, just show it and let it happen. 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.440 I think we don't need something. There was the voiceovers 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.120 really take me back to the seventies. 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.720 And it reeked of like just a lack of it 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.560 said something like love celebrities fanning out for each other. 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.000 I'm like, when was this written? It was so bad, 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.840 And the moments are happening, because what do we get 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:10.000 Selena Gomez going over to talk to Taylor Swift and 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.240 Kayleie Teller to say whatever gossip she had to say. 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.240 And that moment was probably the biggest moment of the Globes. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.800 And this is where and I do think it was 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:20.520 Dick Clark Productions and I've been a part of these 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.840 productions before, because I've gone on and done some stuff 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.840 for the Oscars and the Academy and some of these shows. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:30.520 You have very very old school TV people, and I 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.400 mean old. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.000 School are you talking about. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.280 They've been doing this, yes, yeah, they were doing this 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.920 when John Wayne was winning Oscars and they're like, this 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.840 is what we're gonna write, and you write it five 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.400 days before it happens. So they don't quite get the 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:51.080 TikTok Instagram stories world we live in, where all we 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.280 really want to see you're basically showing reels. Show us 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.200 five second reels going to break. Boom, Taylor Swift, Oh 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:58.520 my god, what are they talking about? I don't know. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.360 There's is that Jared Leto with Nick Cage, Oh my god? 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.240 Switch over to Jason Bateman hugging on. That's all we 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.239 want is quick reels. I don't need the voiceovers, just 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:08.399 show that going to break. 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.040 So, having done all the live TV you've done, I 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:15.040 mean you did live after shows, you did Miss America Live, what. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.240 I did, the Red Carpets at all of the allshos. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.360 Yeah, but that's different. I mean I've done those. That's 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.600 very different than like a show because the live Red 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.280 Carpets you're kind of like people are coming and it's 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.359 a little harder. I'm talking a produced show where you 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.240 have a run of show, but it is live. What 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.600 advice would you give to anybody about to undertake something 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.760 like this? What are like three and producing it all 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.760 together or hosting it? What are three takeaways? Three pitfalls 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.800 that live TVs can get into? 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.119 My thing because I produced, I produe executive produce and 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.320 host of The Red Carpets for TV Guide for many years, 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:51.560 and my thing was, don't forget what the fans want 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.720 to see. And you hit the nail on the head. 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.440 So ten days out, instead of trying to find somebody 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.240 again at one of the local laugh factories of the 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.160 comedy club, just go without a host. 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:03.840 Guys, you know, not annoyed me? Why didn't they just 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.480 do that? And I know I've been saying this, but 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.600 here's another Well, here's another reason it annoyed me. What 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.560 I actually wanted to see, what you're saying, what the 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.200 fans wanted to see. I would have loved to let 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.000 people's speeches breathe a little bit more. 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.159 What I would have done, I would have said, we 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.480 don't have a host this year. Robert Downey Jr. Will 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:24.360 you open the show? Jason Bateman, will you open the show? 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.560 Will Ferrell, will you just open the show? Don't don't, 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.560 don't do a monologue thirty seconds. Let's just kick this 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.560 thing off with a big star that is very beloved. 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.439 That's the Steve Martin, that's the Billy Crystal. It's just 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.239 someone we want to you know, that's gonna make us 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.400 feel good. You don't have to rip the room. That's 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.639 Ricky Gervasis thing, Amy Puller and Tina Fey were brilliant 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:46.080 at what they did. But just let stars be stars. 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.120 That's what we want to see. And you know, bring 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.240 a dynamic duo out. Maybe you open it with Will 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:52.600 Ferrell and whoever. 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.080 Yeah, I mean Robert Downey Junior's speech made me laugh 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.760 more than anything. Joe Cooy. He said that he crushed 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.960 the room and you saw that natru charisma he has 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:02.920