1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas. And you know, can I 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: still say happy holidays because it's time for the kids 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: and everybody to go back to school. It's time to 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: get back to what is This has been the long 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: COVID version of the holidays. These holidays will not end. 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: No, here's well, here's what it is. I think they're 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: on weird days this year, like New Year's Day being 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: on a Monday that felt weird Christmas and so it 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: made the whole week feel totally thrown How many times 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: of us said wait, what day is it? And I think, honey, 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: that we just have two kids in college right now. 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 2: They have a month long break. And by the way, 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: here's how we're feeling. We love them. We are so 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: happy they're at home. It has been an awesome trip. 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: I know that they're ready to get rid of us 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: at this point. They want to go back to their lives. 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: We were talking today in the kitchen and they were 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: both like kind of had long faces and they're like 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: they were both talking and I walked in on the 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: conversation about they're ready to get back that they're not 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: exactly excited to get back to school, but they're ready 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: to get back to school because that's their lives. And 25 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: I remember, even though it was like back in the 26 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: dark ages, go, you know, so ready to go back 27 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: to school because you've built your life with your friends, 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: fraternity brothers sorority sisters, your club, your soccer, your sports, 29 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: whatever it is. And then you kind of get ripped 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: out of it. You go home and it's kind of refreshing. 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: You're back in your own bed, You're eating some home 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: cooked meals, you got a washer and dryer, but man, 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: it goes quick. 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: Well, it's not good for anybody to go too long 35 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: without a daily routine, and with these breaks especially, I 36 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: think for kids in who have parents who are divorced 37 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: and they have to go to each family and they 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: might be in different states. They can't really work during 39 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: the winter break. It's like not enough time to get 40 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: a job, you know, it's not summer. But so then 41 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: they like don't have a routine during the day. How 42 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: long is a high school break, I don't remember. 43 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: They all went back to school, so they everyone pretty 44 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: much got out the fifteenth of December, that that Friday 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: whatever that that actually hit well, and then it was 46 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: probably going back this last Monday. 47 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: Here's what I think every school winter break should be 48 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: three weeks. I think that's the right amount. 49 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Because we're coming up to the Martin Luther King Holiday, right, 50 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: and now our kids are not only off for the holidays, 51 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: they're now off for the next MLK day. Then they're 52 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: going back to school. 53 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know. 54 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: Some colleges down in the SEC, down in the South, 55 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: they're going the following week. They're still out another week, 56 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: which is just insane. So and you know when they 57 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: get out for. 58 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: Picture this imagine going to stay home with your parents 59 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: now for a month, no zero. They have to be 60 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: so sick of us. 61 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: Well because I don't get the you know, because I 62 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: don't have the bribe of home cooked meals, the washer 63 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: and dryer being such a novelty. At least we got 64 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: that over the kids. But we had a great holiday 65 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: and it's still going on. You know, it's we're pretty 66 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: much going to get into spring break and we're still 67 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: going to be But we. 68 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: Did something that I'm not sure we've ever done with 69 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: the kids before. Because I don't know if many gen 70 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: z ers do it. We watched some of the Golden 71 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 2: Globes with Taylor. Yes, like I've never and I think 72 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: that when I was when I know that. When I 73 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: was younger, I watched Awards shows because back then that 74 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: was the only time you saw celebrities. Now they're on 75 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: social media. So the Golden Globes, we watched them with Taylor. 76 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: It was interesting to kind of watch it through her eyes. 77 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: You realize it makes you feel a little old because 78 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: you realize she doesn't know a lot of like the 79 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: older movie stars were. 80 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: We Is it because we've moved out of Hollywood and 81 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, both both you and I worked. I've worked 82 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: the red carpet, so have you. We've been to all 83 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: the parties. One of the last things we did in 84 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: la before we moved was going to the Gold Globes 85 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: parties and all that, and it was fun. It's a 86 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: great of all the parties. I would say the Globes 87 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: are fun because everybody's in the Hilton there and it's 88 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of everyone's together. But you and I both 89 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: didn't know they were on. Is it? Is it a 90 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: lack of what's the lack of awareness anymore. 91 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: I was texting with a friend. Apparently CBS just got 92 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: the rights to the Globes because remember the Globes went 93 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: through this controversy in the past couple of years. The 94 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: Hollywood Foreign Press Association was under fire for its lack 95 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: of diversity. They were kind of disbanded. NBC didn't air 96 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: refuse to air the Globes a few years ago. I 97 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: think they went up for sale. Apparently CBS, my former employer, 98 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: got the rights just a few weeks ago, so there 99 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: wasn't a lot of promotion. Joe Koy, the host, said 100 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: he only got the gig ten days beforehand. I heard 101 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: reports that a lot of people turned it down. So overall, 102 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: we watched a little of the Globes. I didn't really 103 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: see the red carpet beforehand, the red carpet coverage. 104 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw no red carpet coverage, but we watched 105 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: the monologue on. 106 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: Yes and the Globes are back numbers wise, I mean, 107 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: not back, but a lot better than last year, which 108 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: was a record low. But I feel like the past 109 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: couple of days I've spent discussing what is the future 110 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: of awards shows, like did you think the Globes were good. 111 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: Well, in all fairness, and I'm not getting on this globeuse. 112 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: I think it did a one point four rating in 113 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: the demographic, which is that eighteen to forty nine year 114 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: old coveted demographic. I believe six and a half maybe 115 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: seven million viewers. I mean, that's fine if you're like 116 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: in CIS or something like, if you're a regular show 117 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: a Survivor finale on CBS, one point four would be good. 118 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: An award show, live event like football Football was on 119 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: at the same time Bill's Dolphins. It probably did fourteen 120 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: to eighteen million viewers, so two to three x when 121 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: the Globes did. So that just tells you these shows 122 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: have become I don't know if they've become obsolete, and 123 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be mean at all, but they 124 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: have become not the relevant talking point they used to be. 125 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a couple of things that aren't 126 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: their fault. Like one, again, this used to be the 127 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: only place you could see celebrities. Now you see them 128 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: on social media everywhere. Two, This award shows used to 129 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: be one of the only places you could see really 130 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,559 Speaker 2: great fashion. Now we see fashion on social media constantly. Three. 131 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: You know, the pandemic didn't help. It accelerated down a 132 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: decline that was already happening. But I also think, and 133 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: I don't know where this starts, the chicken or the 134 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: egg of it all overall, my biggest issue with the 135 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: Globes it just wasn't that fun. These awards shows aren't 136 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: fun anymore. First of all, let's talk about Joe Coy. 137 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: I have a new term for a bad joke. I 138 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: call it a joke Coy. 139 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: He's now become the punchline of a joke. Ironically, he 140 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: is the funny punchline of a joke. 141 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: So the jokes were okay, I'll give him this. People 142 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: say this who have hosted these shows. And Steve Martin 143 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: just came out and defended him a little bit, because 144 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: Steve Martins hosted the Oscars and other awards shows over 145 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 2: the years. And Steve Martin said, it's a very difficult job. 146 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: Congrats to him because he took on the toughest gig 147 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: in show business. Now I know that it's difficult. But 148 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: the low hanging fruit jokes by Joe Cooy, Yeah, the 149 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: joke about Barbie being a movie about a doll with 150 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: big boobs, the joke about like, I don't know why 151 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: we would there. I think there was a a joke, 152 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: you know, a joke about Barry Keyogan's penis. 153 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: It was just so the Oppenheimer needed to be an 154 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: hour longer. That kind of it was just it was 155 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: so basic. 156 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: And then he turned on his writers in the middle 157 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: of the monologue started blaming them, saying, I didn't write 158 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: the jokes that you're not laughing at. 159 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: You know what I noticed about the whole room just 160 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: to start the look of it, because they changed the room. 161 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: They added that so if you noticed, it was kind 162 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: of in the round. They had the regular stage that 163 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: they're always on. It's the same ballroom. It's at the 164 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: Beverly Hilton there and Beverly Hill as you can drive 165 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: by it at Wilshire and what is that right there? 166 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: Santa Monica right there in Beverly Hill's same hotel forever. 167 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: But they added this circular thing in the round, and 168 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: they the stage. They took away cameramen and women and 169 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: added they just put in electronic cameras. Did you notice 170 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: that there was like three cameras on the stage that 171 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: would electronically come up to either hit the host or 172 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: the presenters or whoever it was. It was a really 173 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: weird thing. So anyway, the point is they took much 174 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: of that lower room where all the big stars usually sit. 175 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: So to me, it looked like ten pounds of you 176 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: know what shoved in a five pound sack. 177 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: The whole room looked so crowded. 178 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: Everybody couldn't get to the stage. 179 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: People knew it was most of the shows. People walking 180 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: around people's chairs. It was so like there, and that 181 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: to me is so basic, Like I get it, CBS, 182 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: you only just got the show. But think about if 183 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: when we were planning our wedding we were thinking about 184 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: how much space there was between tables for people to 185 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: walk around. 186 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper looked like he was at a Catholic mass. 187 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: He got up and down out of his seat so 188 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: much it looked like he was praying because he had 189 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: to get up every time someone came back because there 190 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: was no room to just walk to the stage. Rule 191 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: number one, people are gonna win, get them to the stage. 192 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: It looked it just looks so wed, I know, And. 193 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: You know, I was texting my friend and I was 194 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: my friend who used to work at ET and we 195 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: were like are we just burnt out because we worked 196 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: in the industry. But I'm looking at it thinking we've 197 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: done this before. We've been doing the Globes for decades. 198 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: How do we not know space the room out a 199 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: little bit. How do we not know don't make people 200 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: walk along time to the stage because that's just dead air. 201 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: How do we not know the guy doing the monologue 202 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: like it can be a little better. I know that 203 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: it's tough because you're playing to a very varied group 204 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: of people, not only in the room and at home. 205 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: But I actually think it's time for us to be 206 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: done with hosts that award shows. It doesn't work ninety 207 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: percent of the time. The only times I can remember 208 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: the Globes being great were when it was Tina Fey 209 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: and Amy pull her together and some people like Tricky, 210 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you were the best. 211 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: We love Ricky Gervais, meaning the rest of America. The 212 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: Hollywood crowd did not like Ricky Gervais because he absolutely 213 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: came for them. He came for them, the Jeffrey Epstein jokes, 214 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: the Weinstein jokes, the I mean he he just would 215 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: shine a big bright light on the hypocrisy that is 216 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: Hollywood and the rest of us loved it because it 217 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: was so fantastic and it was spot on. The glarees 218 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: and the odd looks if I'll never forget like Tom 219 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: Hanks looking around so uncomfortably, and I mean so he 220 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: it was like he just made Hollywood so uncomfortable. But 221 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: it was brilliant. Now, Amy Poehler, Tina Fey a plus plus. 222 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: So they did it the best. I think at this 223 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 2: point the comedians, because I hear a lot of people 224 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: be like like, for example, Kristin Wigan, Will Ferrell, Oh 225 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: my gosh. I love seeing them together again as presenters. 226 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: They were so funny and I thought to myself, this 227 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: is what the show should be. Just have really good 228 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: presenting pairs, people who know each other. Andrew Day and 229 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: John Batiste were so funny together. Put together people who 230 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: know each other do not do. Kevin Costner and America 231 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: Frera a poor America Frera up. There was drowning happened. 232 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what Kevin Costner was doing. I don't 233 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: think he had read through it. I don't think he 234 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,359 Speaker 2: knew what he was saying. Maybe he needed his reading glasses. 235 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: I was so uncomfortable and America Freerrah God bless her 236 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: tried to carry on and still hit her punchlines. It 237 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: was horror. I just wanted music to play and go 238 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: to commercial. It was so horrifying. I don't know what 239 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: happened there. 240 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: So I think pairs of presenters who are friends who 241 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: can do really well together, just because also I like 242 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: I heard like Taylor said to me, Oh my gosh, 243 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: Will Ferrell and Kristen Wig were so funny together. Why 244 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: don't they just get them to host? 245 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: By the way, the Suits reunion, that was great. Loved 246 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: seeing them back on stage, and that was a really 247 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: cute joke about taking so long for a show to 248 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: be recognized. So I agree, But. 249 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: I said to Taylor, Hey, it's not that they haven't 250 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 2: asked them. These comedians like a Will Ferrell and Kristini, 251 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: it is so much more advantageous to them to say 252 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 2: we're just going to come out crush our two minutes 253 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: of presenting. We're not going to take the risk of 254 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 2: being because the Joe Koy job, the host job, is 255 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: a risk. It can be hugely detrimental to your career. 256 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: This was not a win for him. 257 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he can still be doing a stand up 258 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: at the Laugh. 259 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: Fame and I've never watched his stand up, but it's 260 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: probably not reflective. He's probably a better stand up comedian 261 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: of the SAE. 262 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: Some comedians have come out and said that, you know, 263 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: this is not indicative of how funny he can be 264 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: and all that. Look. I don't know, but he was 265 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: up against it. Eventually, you're going to get to someone 266 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: who will say yes for the job. Ten days out 267 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: that's an impossible task to come in and try and 268 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: host the Golden Globes. But knowing that you should have 269 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: accepted the loss and just kind of stayed a little straighter, 270 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: hit a couple of jokes and just moved on. It 271 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: was an impossible job, but he really made it worse 272 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: by the jokes he made. And I the other thing 273 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: I would say is we're done with the voiceover, going in. 274 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: And out the voiceovers. We're so it's. 275 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: Usually it Usually it's one of the disc jockey's, one 276 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: of the DJ's radio people from LA that that do it. 277 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: And it's not their fault because somebody writes it. And 278 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: if you don't know what we're talking about, it's coming 279 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: up after the break. Meryl Streep is, you know, sitting 280 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: around waiting to see if if you know, and they 281 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,479 Speaker 1: take a shot at Meryl Streep and it's Martin Scorsese. 282 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: The Martin Scorsese one was the worst one because they'd 283 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: clearly pre planned it. But oh my gosh, we need 284 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: to pivot. The Martin scor Sayse voiceover was coming up. 285 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: Martin Scorsese can't sit still, and he was literally sitting side. 286 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: I think he did fall asleep. 287 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: Look, there are so many stars. That's the beautiful thing 288 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: about the Globes is you do have so many big 289 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: stars in that room. You don't need a voiceover. You 290 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: don't need to tell somebody what's coming up next. We 291 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: know what we're watching. Just show stars, Just show Taylor Swift, 292 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston, Bradley Cooper, you know, Jason Bateman was right there, 293 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: Joaquin Phoenix. You had Timothy Shalome right there. 294 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: Come we have lost the fun. They were so cheesy. 295 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 2: Let's talk a book. I'm thinking of what you just 296 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: brought up, Joaquin Phoenix. Let's process this. At one table 297 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: was Joaquin Phoenix, Nicholas Cage, and Jared Leto. That is 298 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: the weirdest table the most. I say this with love 299 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: for all of them. 300 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: You know what it is. That's the table and you 301 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: and I just had this issue. You get to your 302 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: wedding and there's like that person that doesn't quite fit 303 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: and you're not sure what to do with them. So 304 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: you have this table that's like table X at your wedding. 305 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: It's like, well, what do we do with Jared Letto? 306 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, he's kind of on his own. Well 307 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: there's Nick Cage. All right, Well let's put like, you know, 308 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: Timothy Schalome there too. But it was funny because poor 309 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: uh Joaquin Phoenix wasn't his fault, but he was on 310 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: camera a lot the way they were shooting back towards 311 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: that screen, and he just had his hand, you know, 312 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: his head in his hand, like half asleep, like oh God, 313 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: like just let this be over, Kate. 314 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: But why can the voice of or not be Well 315 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: there's Jared Lettow class Cage walking in Phoenix. What the 316 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: hell are they talking about? Like what a table is that? 317 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: Like? Have writers have late night writers ready to go 318 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: with jokes? Or just my thing is NAT Sound go 319 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: to break with fifteen seconds of nat Sound of stars. 320 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: You're showing ted last because it's the one room I 321 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: will say where you have these amazing get togethers because 322 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: we are so compact in those rooms. It's all of 323 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: a sudden, Ted Lasso Jason Sedeikis is talking to Meryl Streep. 324 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: You never see that, right, you see Meryl Streep hugging 325 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston or you just see these weird kind of 326 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I didn't know. Everybody was freaking out 327 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: about Bill Hayter and dating the Alley one Elli Wong. 328 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, stop the Internet. I didn't know they were dating. 329 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: So show that, just show. 330 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: That, just show it and let it happen. 331 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: I think we don't need something. There was the voiceovers 332 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: really take me back to the seventies. 333 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: And it reeked of like just a lack of it 334 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: said something like love celebrities fanning out for each other. 335 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, when was this written? It was so bad, 336 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: And the moments are happening, because what do we get 337 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: Selena Gomez going over to talk to Taylor Swift and 338 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: Kayleie Teller to say whatever gossip she had to say. 339 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: And that moment was probably the biggest moment of the Globes. 340 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: And this is where and I do think it was 341 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: Dick Clark Productions and I've been a part of these 342 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: productions before, because I've gone on and done some stuff 343 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: for the Oscars and the Academy and some of these shows. 344 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: You have very very old school TV people, and I 345 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: mean old. 346 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: School are you talking about. 347 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: They've been doing this, yes, yeah, they were doing this 348 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: when John Wayne was winning Oscars and they're like, this 349 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: is what we're gonna write, and you write it five 350 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: days before it happens. So they don't quite get the 351 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: TikTok Instagram stories world we live in, where all we 352 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: really want to see you're basically showing reels. Show us 353 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: five second reels going to break. Boom, Taylor Swift, Oh 354 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: my god, what are they talking about? I don't know. 355 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: There's is that Jared Leto with Nick Cage, Oh my god? 356 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: Switch over to Jason Bateman hugging on. That's all we 357 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 1: want is quick reels. I don't need the voiceovers, just 358 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: show that going to break. 359 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: So, having done all the live TV you've done, I 360 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: mean you did live after shows, you did Miss America Live, what. 361 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: I did, the Red Carpets at all of the allshos. 362 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's different. I mean I've done those. That's 363 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: very different than like a show because the live Red 364 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: Carpets you're kind of like people are coming and it's 365 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: a little harder. I'm talking a produced show where you 366 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: have a run of show, but it is live. What 367 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: advice would you give to anybody about to undertake something 368 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: like this? What are like three and producing it all 369 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: together or hosting it? What are three takeaways? Three pitfalls 370 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: that live TVs can get into? 371 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: My thing because I produced, I produe executive produce and 372 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: host of The Red Carpets for TV Guide for many years, 373 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: and my thing was, don't forget what the fans want 374 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: to see. And you hit the nail on the head. 375 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: So ten days out, instead of trying to find somebody 376 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: again at one of the local laugh factories of the 377 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: comedy club, just go without a host. 378 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: Guys, you know, not annoyed me? Why didn't they just 379 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: do that? And I know I've been saying this, but 380 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: here's another Well, here's another reason it annoyed me. What 381 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: I actually wanted to see, what you're saying, what the 382 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: fans wanted to see. I would have loved to let 383 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: people's speeches breathe a little bit more. 384 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: What I would have done, I would have said, we 385 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: don't have a host this year. Robert Downey Jr. Will 386 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: you open the show? Jason Bateman, will you open the show? 387 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: Will Ferrell, will you just open the show? Don't don't, 388 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: don't do a monologue thirty seconds. Let's just kick this 389 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: thing off with a big star that is very beloved. 390 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: That's the Steve Martin, that's the Billy Crystal. It's just 391 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 1: someone we want to you know, that's gonna make us 392 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: feel good. You don't have to rip the room. That's 393 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: Ricky Gervasis thing, Amy Puller and Tina Fey were brilliant 394 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: at what they did. But just let stars be stars. 395 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: That's what we want to see. And you know, bring 396 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: a dynamic duo out. Maybe you open it with Will 397 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: Ferrell and whoever. 398 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Robert Downey Junior's speech made me laugh 399 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: more than anything. Joe Cooy. He said that he crushed 400 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: the room and you saw that natru charisma he has 401 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: and he's probably more comfortable in that room. He's been 402 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: in it, his friends are in it. You need somebody 403 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: who's comfortable. How about that rom com we saw with Taylor. 404 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: Anyone but you has been doing really well at the 405 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: box office. Please let that inspire Hollywood to make rom 406 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: coms again, comedies and romantic movies. 407 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: And we had you know, and the Jennifer Lawrence m 408 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: I know it wasn't being celebrated, but it was like, 409 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: no hard feelings. 410 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: So she was nominated at the Globes. 411 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: And it was fun. It was she was cute when 412 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: she when she had her a little close up. I 413 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: don't win. 414 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 2: I'm leaving now. I want to talk a little bit 415 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: about the Red Carpet because you mentioned you've done it. 416 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: I've done it. We did not watch it. My old 417 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: home et did a combo carpet with variety because and 418 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: there was no e Red carpet this year. 419 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: Oh really. 420 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: Now, I don't know exactly why that was. 421 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: Must be the first time in a long Yeah. 422 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if they just didn't want to pay 423 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: to do it or if I don't know, but so 424 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: there was no cake out. I mean, that's that's it. 425 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: What you think about it. 426 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: That's a missing piece. 427 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: You know. The seacrest has gone. Juliana Ransick did it 428 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: for forever, and yeah, all those people are long gone, 429 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: and I guess so. 430 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was expensive, yes, and it was critiqued very heavily. 431 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: Everything that I saw, I did not watch any of it, 432 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: but it was critiqued very heavily. It is very difficult. 433 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm also wondering, like, is 434 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: that part of it all dead today? The Red Carpet Reporters, 435 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: Like it used to be fashion police and critiquing and 436 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 2: all that. There was backlash to that. It was like 437 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: no bullying, no meanness. But the thing is now I 438 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 2: feel like that just happens on social media, like now 439 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: the Red Carpet Reporters. And I know I personally was 440 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: like very you're almost afraid to even show personality because 441 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 2: you don't want to upset anybody and so and you're 442 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: just trying to do your job, but you also have 443 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 2: a bunch of mandates in your head. But now it's 444 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: just everybody on social media is just critiquing everyone. It's 445 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: just moved there. Do you think that in the case 446 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: of a live show, do you go to your monologue 447 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 2: and then do you go back and like check the 448 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: reactions before you go out again and respond in somewhere 449 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: or do you just power through the live show and 450 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: look at it all after time. 451 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: I was always so you know, we had this battle 452 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: on the Bachelor, there were two guys, and I say guys, 453 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: two men in particular, that lived, ate, drank, and slept. 454 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: Whatever was said on Twitter. I mean, one tweet could 455 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: shape their world. My thought when I was doing live 456 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 1: TV was we drove social media, not vice versa. We 457 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: would create topics. We want to go viral, we want 458 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: to be talked about. It's very rare that I would 459 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: bring up a topic that I saw on social media, 460 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: and it's very rare that that works. Everyone tried to E. 461 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: I worked at E, I worked at ET, I worked 462 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: at all these places, you name it. I did all 463 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: those places, and everybody's tried to do the same thing. 464 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: And you know this, how do we incorporate social media 465 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: into our red carpet shows? And it never quite worked out. 466 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: I think that's another part of the problem too, is 467 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: like we would always be trying to find trying to 468 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: like It's like they spend the red carpets trying to 469 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: get on top of like this latest thing or create 470 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: a viral moment or whatever, and you can't that's the 471 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 2: whole thing. You can't make it happen the quote unquote 472 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 2: viral moment. And I hate even saying the word viral 473 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: because it sounds so dated, But that happens on accident 474 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: when you happen to catch Selena Gomez going over to 475 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: say something gossip via Taylor Swift and you happen to 476 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: get it, and then it's fire. You cannot create it, 477 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 2: And I think the best thing to do is to 478 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: go for quality content and let the viral stuff happen. 479 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: But everyone's very afraid to do that. Like I was 480 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: always like, we're it's like we're again the tail wagon 481 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: the dog. We're chasing this instead of like, let's ask 482 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: the questions we really want to know the answers to 483 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: and then hopefully the viral the moments will happen out 484 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: of that. 485 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: I used to really enjoy the Red Carpets News. I'll 486 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: take people kind of inside baseball. So when you're doing 487 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: the Grammys, Oscars, all these and I was executive producing 488 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: and hosting, I would have to go meet with the academy. 489 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: So I would go sit down with the academy. It 490 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: was me and our other executives, and you're basically begging, borrowing, 491 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: and stealing. You're doing everything you can to basically bribe 492 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: these people to get a good spot on the carpet, 493 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: so E usually seacrest E would go in first, they'd 494 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: have their meeting. They would usually get spot number one. 495 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: TV Guide was either number two or number three. Then 496 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: it was us and it was big on where your 497 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: spot was on the carpet, how big your stage was 498 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: allowed to be like, it was a big deal. Seacrest 499 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: at the Oscars didn't have to stand behind the hedges. 500 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: There's this row of hedges that we all have to 501 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: stand behind. And at the end of the day, your 502 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: thighs look like a porcupine hit you. And you know, 503 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: Ryan had a little red velvet rope he got to stand. 504 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: It was like little things like that, so you could 505 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: be buddy buddy, and the conversations were great. Eight We 506 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: used to have really good fun stuff. The actors came 507 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: to be funny. You just wanted to set them up 508 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: and have a good time. And you've got a lot 509 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: more viral stuff. And I also think that you have 510 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: to be live. If these shows aren't live, then they're 511 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: meaningless because you're doing a red carpet before the Oscars. 512 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: As soon as the Oscars air, it's obsolete because you're 513 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: asking him about the Oscars and so if it's not live, 514 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: then it really doesn't make sense to me. 515 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Oscars were the hardest one too, because everybody's 516 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 2: so done by the end. It's the end of Awards season, 517 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: by the way, I'm just seeing this. Greta Gerwig did 518 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: respond to the Joe Cooy barbie joke. She's doing an 519 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: interview and she just responded to it. She said, well, 520 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: he's not wrong. She's the first doll that was mass 521 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: produced with breasts, so he's right on. Good responds for 522 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: her didn't really draw a line one way or the 523 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: other because it would. 524 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: Have been easy for her to crap on him because 525 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: it's low hanging fruit because everybody's dog. 526 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it would have been low hanging 527 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: for for her. I think it would have been fair 528 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: for her because she would have been like, well. 529 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: I like this. She kind of was just yeah, it's funny, 530 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: like that's fine, it's okay. 531 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't funny, but it was there. You 532 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: know what I will say for Joekoy, I don't think 533 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: he's done. I think one thing that these Awards shows 534 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: does drive home to me, Hollywood is such an industry 535 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: and I mean this in a hopeful way, big swings, 536 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: big misses, big ups, big downs. I mean, you're looking there. 537 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: One thing everybody was talking about from the Globes was 538 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 2: that Bradley Cooper spent like six years on Maestro and 539 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: it is getting shut out. It is not winning. He 540 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: is not winning for it, and or like Joaquin Phoenix 541 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: is there but not for Napoleon. Napoleon is this huge 542 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: epic no one's talking about. And it doesn't mean his 543 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: career is over. It doesn't mean these director's careers are over. 544 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: It is an industry where you can be completely in 545 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: the gutter one minute and then all it takes is 546 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: your next thing to work. So you know, I don't 547 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 2: want Joekoy's career to be over for this. He did 548 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: his best and it was a really tough job. But 549 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: I am saying I'm done with hosts that awards shows. 550 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: Just give me two great minutes from a Will Farrell 551 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: and a Kristen Wig, two great minutes from a Tina 552 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: Fan and Amy Poehler. Whatever. 553 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: Emmy's are coming up there Monday, but it's weird because 554 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: the Emmys are being replaced from last year, so because 555 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: they didn't. 556 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: Host the place, they're delayed these are the Emmys that 557 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: were supposed to air in like September. Body's mind by 558 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: the way, Yeah, the writer's strike held them off. So 559 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: like Jeremy Allen White was nominated for season two of 560 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 2: The Bear at the Golden Globes, but a week later 561 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: he's nominated at the Emmys for season one of The Bear. 562 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: I think, yes, I could be right. 563 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: By the way, it was better than season two, so 564 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: he should win both. 565 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: It's screwed up. They were supposed to a This was going. 566 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: To be probably a lot of Ted Lasso, a lot 567 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: of succession, a lot of which, by the way, kudos 568 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: to success I mean that was fantastic. I love seeing 569 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: them being honored because they got there was such a 570 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: good show. But yeah, you're going to see a lot 571 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: of that at the Emmys because we're going back a year, 572 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 1: which is really weird. Is it even the last year 573 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: of Ted last year? 574 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I was just going to say, I 575 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: don't think you're going to see I don't know about 576 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 2: a lot of succession. 577 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: God, I don't know, are up And then we have 578 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: the I don't know if anyone's hosting the Emmys, and 579 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: then you have the Oscars, and I think Jimmy Kimmel 580 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: has already been tapped to do the oscars again, which 581 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: will be really interesting to see how he handles the oscars. 582 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: But it's a very friendly room for him. Those are 583 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: his people. We're on a golden theme. 584 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: Well, we wanted to ask you about this because a 585 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: couple people were dming and asking for your thoughts. 586 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've gotten a few of these people have been 587 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: asking about this moment. 588 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: I guess the Golden Bachelor wedding aired. Yes, Now we 589 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: have not seen it. Neither of us watched it, so 590 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: I want to say that disclaimer. We watch it, but 591 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: people were asking for your thoughts on the fact that 592 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: someone got engaged at the Golden Bachelor wedding. Now, I 593 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 2: will say I think we did a podcast episode about this. 594 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: We did where we both adamantly said we do not 595 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: think it is okay for people to get engaged at 596 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: other people's weddings. I think it steals the spotlight from 597 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: the bride and groom. There's three hundred and sixty four 598 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: other days of the year you can do this, so 599 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: I am not okay with it, but I don't think 600 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: this was a normal wedding. 601 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: So our genius producer. Easton was there? Easton, you were 602 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: at the wedding, right, I was. I wasn't at the ceremony. 603 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: I was on site at the wedding doing some work. Okay, 604 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: So give us, give us your little play by play 605 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: because I have not seen it and I have not 606 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: seen video. But you're saying they asked permission. I understand 607 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: that they got permission from Gary and Teresa to do that. 608 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: Was that off air or on air? That was off air? Okay? 609 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: On air? It didn't. It looked like it was a 610 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: spur of the moment thing. Yo. Were there cameras, there 611 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: were a camra Okay, okay, so there is nothing spur 612 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: of the moment about this. So look, thank you Easton, 613 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: our intrepid reporter on the scene there breaking news. So okay, 614 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: here's the thing that you need to know about this moment. 615 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: And because I know that this young man, I don't 616 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: know who it was, but he's getting backlash for it 617 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: because oh, how dare you steal the limelight from this 618 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: person that was at their wedding? Guys, this was one 619 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: hundred percent scripted, one hundred percent planned as soon as 620 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: I did not see it. But this is how I 621 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: know it's one hundred percent. They said he pulled out 622 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: a Neil Lane ring. He didn't go buy a Neil 623 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: Laane ring. Nobody, no one from the batchler goes to 624 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: buy a Neil Laane ring. That means it was given 625 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: to him. So that that's the only clue I needed. 626 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: When I heard Neil Lane, I go, okay, they gave 627 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: him a ring. One of the producers, this is their job. 628 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: One of the producers called this young man and said, hey, 629 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, do you think you would propose the wedding? 630 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: This would be really great. We'll get it on camera. Well, 631 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it aired the wedding, I 632 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: have no idea. If not, it'll air coming up. You'll 633 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: see it at one of the specials or the next 634 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what incarnation of the show they're they're 635 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: showing next. But this was set up by the producers. 636 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: The the Golden Bachelor guy and his wife. They were 637 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: told about it so they wouldn't get upset. Everybody knew 638 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: there were cameras there, it was lit, it was staged. 639 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: The director ken Fuchs told him exactly where to be, 640 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: where to stand, where to kneel. Who was behind him, 641 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: the stage was set, everything about that moment was set up. 642 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: Of course, I guess the three cameras, they probably had 643 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: a nice wide shot, maybe even a four with a jib. 644 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: You're going to see a nice when you see it. 645 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: You'll see a jib pull back. You'll see a tight 646 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: shot on him, tight shot on her, the three, the 647 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: two shot, and then you probably have a nice jib shot. 648 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: So we had four cameras for this impromptu moment. 649 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: I need someone to go and check and see if 650 00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: he's correct on this. 651 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: To you, that's what it was, which, by the way, 652 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: is fine. By the way, I'm not poopooing on it. 653 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: That's what I would do too. That's why I know 654 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: is I've been a part of these moments, and none 655 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: of these were surprised. Nothing like that would ever happen 656 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: as a surprise at our show because, by the way, 657 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: if it did happen as a surprise, a producer would 658 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: be fired because if you allowed that to sneak in 659 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: and we didn't know and we didn't get it on camera, 660 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: then you failed at your job and you didn't know 661 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: the story. 662 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: We are here in defense of whoever got engaged, because 663 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: of course, like again, if it's a regular wedding, different story. 664 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: This is a televised wedding. This is a show. This 665 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: is a production. Everything that's happened is choreographed, everything is intentional. 666 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: You're creating an entertainment show. I'm not saying it was 667 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: not a real wedding, but it's an entertainment show wedding 668 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: for people. So that was a beat in the story. 669 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: It was a plot point. 670 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: Sean and Catherine's wedding. I hosted Jaden Tanner's I officiate, 671 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: hosted and officiated, you know, same thing with Ashley and JP. 672 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: So the day before, well several days before, we would 673 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: do a run through, just kind of a table read. Basically, 674 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: I would get my book and I would know exactly 675 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: what's going on. The day before we actually have a rehearsal. 676 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 1: So that's just how that's how technical and lined up 677 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: this is. We would rehearse everything. I would read through 678 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: the prompter to make sure the prompter's good, all the 679 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: lights are good. We would test them because you know, 680 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: usually I would be in different areas. You know, you 681 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: would start as the host that I would go on 682 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: stage and make sure those microphones work, to make sure 683 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: the lines of communication and the lighting look good, and Dennis, 684 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: our amazing lighting director, would make sure that the shadows 685 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: are gone and all that. Then we, you know, often 686 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: we would go inside and have the reception set up. 687 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: So for like Jayden Tanner, it's like okay, Seal came 688 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: and played Okay, make room for Seal and the lighting 689 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: and all that. And so all of this is to 690 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: say that it is very organized. It's like Lauren said, 691 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: it's a television show. We don't just cameras up and 692 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: hope it goes well. You have to produce this stuff. 693 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: If you leave everybody to their own devices, you're not 694 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: Just like if somebody brought cameras to our wedding and said, okay, 695 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: let's just go live. That's not interesting. You don't know 696 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: who you're following. You know, you would need to mike 697 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: everybody know what's going on, and you would create the 698 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: pods of people talking and all that. You would get 699 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: the shot of Jason and Caitlin together. 700 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: It's actually something I loved about our wedding was the well, no, no, 701 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: I mean that you were able to produce it a 702 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: little bit. I did when we went to the location 703 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 2: the day before, which I think most bride and grooms 704 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 2: do you have a rehearsal dinner or something. You rehearse 705 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: it a little bit. But we changed the time of 706 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: the wedding a little bit. We did because Chris was 707 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: looking at the way the light was hitting and he's like, 708 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: the light's going to be right in your eyes here, 709 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: or it's going to be right in the eyes of 710 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: the crowd. Like and so you were a good. 711 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: Twenty years of television kicked in because we were going 712 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: to get married right at six o'clock and kind of 713 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: this golden hour. And I hadn't been to the site 714 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: yet at that time of day, and so you and 715 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: I went for that walk through and I stood there 716 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, the sun was just above these oak trees 717 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: and it was just slamming, and it was in our face, 718 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: and then it was going to hit everybody watching, because 719 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, we were going to be backlit. And so 720 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: I said, you left because you had something to do. 721 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to stay here for another fifteen 722 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: minutes and wait and see when the sun drops just perfectly. 723 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: And so I waited for fifteen minutes, and I delayed 724 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: our wedding. I pushed everything back fifteen to twenty minutes 725 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: just for the lighting. So ken Fuchs Dennis, for all 726 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: the years we worked together, you guys, thank you for 727 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: the wisdom you imparted upon me because it sunk in 728 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: and it made for a beautiful Piffoto definitely produced our wedding, 729 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: and things. 730 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 2: I didn't think about, like the microphone you were great about. 731 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 2: I think we were because we did have a videographer, 732 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: which I would recommend some people skip out on it. 733 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: I was really glad we did it, and we kind 734 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 2: of added it last week. 735 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: I was against it at first, and I'm glad we 736 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: did it too. 737 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 2: You know why were you against it? 738 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I just because I want pictures. 739 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: I love just good pictures, and so I just didn't 740 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: think of the video of it all. 741 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: But it's expensive. But I think if nothing else, have 742 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: somebody have a friend in the in your audience, assign 743 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 2: them to whip out their cell phone and film the vows, 744 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: because I know people who didn't do a video and 745 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: they are so bummed that they weren't able to have 746 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: like the vows, and also toasts on camera because you 747 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 2: kind of black out in the moment and then you 748 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: sort of want to go back and actually process what 749 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: people said. 750 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: They get to see, you know, other people watching, and I, 751 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, especially with Austin, just us walking in together, 752 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: was seeing that video because you get to see you know, 753 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: I kind of looked around a little bit, but you 754 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: don't get to see everybody's faces and you sell people like, 755 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: oh they were right there. No, So that that was 756 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: really special. I was glad we did it. 757 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: That was something I didn't think about, was like the 758 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 2: microphones that you thought about, like I because in Austin, 759 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: I think you were miked, but I wasn't. And it 760 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 2: was also about like are we whitch mic is just 761 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 2: for people to hear versus what's for the videographers? And 762 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: I remember you were like, it's fine because my Michael 763 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 2: pick her up, and I'm like, God, I'm so glad 764 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: he's here right now. But yeah, what do you think 765 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,479 Speaker 2: is harder to do? Let's wrap it up on this. Yes, 766 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: is it harder to produce a live wedding for television 767 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: with guests and with ceremony and all that, or an 768 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: award show? 769 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: It should be harder to produce a wedding because you 770 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: don't have access to to the stars. I mean the 771 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: award show should be, on its face a layap. You 772 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: have the biggest stars in the world to play with, 773 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: show them, show me stars, let me see stars, let 774 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: me hear stars. It's why the Golden Globes used to 775 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: be the darling of award season. All the stars are 776 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: in one hotel. We're in one ballroom. We have champagne 777 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: and caviat They're loose, they're drinking, they're having fun. Get 778 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: them on stage, television, film, music. Everybody is gathered together 779 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: for one big moment. The Oscars is very niche, the 780 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: Emmys very niche, The Grammy's very niche. The Globes is 781 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: the one that brings them all together. And they don't 782 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: care what used to be the Hollywood Forum Press. They 783 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: would say, we don't care. We want the big stars 784 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 1: on our red carpet. We're going to celebrate this movie's. 785 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: Movies like Barbie used to not be celebrated. But the 786 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: Globes will embrace that. And I think that that should 787 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: be a layup to produce. So to fail it is 788 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 1: to me a big injustice because I think it should 789 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: be a great show. Weddings are hard because you only 790 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: you know. You may have kind of stars getting married, 791 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: but then you it's hard to capture and. 792 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 2: Now it's hard to make somebody's cousin like a really 793 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 2: great Strea moment. Yeah, and even if it's your funny cousin. 794 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: Sally is funny to us at Thanksgiving, but is she 795 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: funny to the world. 796 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: You know, the best line of the Globes was, and 797 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: I guarantee it was improvised, was when Will Wilfarell said, 798 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 2: it smells like hot sushi here because it was sent 799 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: because they were serving sushi for the first time someone 800 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: would acknowledge that, and that room looked so crowded. I 801 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: kept thinking, it looks so hot in there. And that's 802 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: the thing. Put too, You have the most talented people 803 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: in the world in that room. Yeah, Will Ferrell's one 804 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 2: of the funniest people of all time. Give them a 805 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 2: presenting moment, give them a little bit to play with, 806 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: but don't make them stick to the script too much, 807 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 2: because those improvised moments are great. Hot sushi. This was 808 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 2: the Golden Globes this year, summed up in two words, 809 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: hot sushi. 810 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: Hot sushi. 811 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 2: Like it's not it's you eat it, but it wasn't great. 812 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're filling station hot Sushi. But we will 813 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: see how the rest of the word season goes. 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