1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: thing from iHeart Radio. The signature howl, hard driving rock, licks, 3 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: intricate harmonies. That sound is, of course, the band Hearts, 4 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: fronted by sisters Anne and Nancy Wilson. Here they are 5 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: with straight On from their nineteen seventy eight album Dog 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: and Butterfly. The Ann's power and dynamism helped sell over 7 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: thirty five million records, produced seven top ten albums, and 8 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: earned four Grammy nominations. They were inducted into the Rock 9 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame in twenty thirteen, and just 10 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: last year, the Wilson sisters received a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award, 11 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: and now. 12 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: They're headed out on a world tour. 13 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: Last week I spoke with guitarist and vocalist Nancy Wilson. 14 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: My guest today is Heart's lead singer Ann Wilson. Anne 15 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Wilson's signature vocals have solidified her place in rock history. 16 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: She's a true pioneer, with her wide range, strength and control, 17 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: giving Robert Plant a run for his money at the 18 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: Kennedy Center Honors. I wanted to know when Anne discovered 19 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: that she had the. 20 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: Voice well It wasn't until much later, like when I 21 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: was about twenty two, I think, yeah, just like in 22 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: band practice. And I'd been in bands, but I was 23 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: always like the chick singer who just did the ballads, 24 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: you know. And then we got to this place in 25 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: the band where we wanted to do led Zeppelin stuff 26 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 3: and right, you're doing covers deep yeah and deep purple stuff, 27 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: and the guys, the guys in the band could not 28 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: master that. So I tried it, and it's up in 29 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: my range and it kind of cut me loose in 30 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: a way. 31 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: Right. 32 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: It's amazing because I mean, obviously you've been redefined again 33 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: and again during your career. We were all talking about this, 34 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: my producers and huh, we were talking about what that 35 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: was like back then, seventies eighties. Roseanne Cash came on 36 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: the show and said her producer sat her down in 37 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: the early days and said, we got to sex this 38 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: up a bit. You got to pop another button, you 39 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: gotta do this, You got to do that. Is that 40 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: what they did to you? 41 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 4: Oh? 42 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: Of course. Yeah. It was always wet your lips and 43 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 3: you know, undo the top button and where a French 44 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: maid's outfit, you know. 45 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: Right, you and Nancy. Yeah, they wanted this just everything 46 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: sexed up all the time. Oh yeah, yeah, how did 47 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: that make you feel back then? 48 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: Mad? Worthless? So yeah, A couple of good songs came 49 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: out of those emotions, like Barracuda and a few of 50 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 3: the other ones that are pretty angry stuff, you. 51 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: Know, But when you are there, does that eventually change? 52 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: Like I see some young actresses I've always said this, 53 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: where they want them to pop another button and do 54 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: this and do that, and once they make a couple 55 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: of hit movies, they're like, no, no, no, never again. 56 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: They button that button all the way to the top 57 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: and like we're done with that. Now. 58 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: That's like a phase, right, And that's very very smart 59 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: because if only we're brave enough at the very beginning 60 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: to know that, right and just like keep it buttoned up, 61 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: you know, and so and so it doesn't want to 62 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: cast us, then so be it. 63 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 5: Right. 64 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: Barry GiB came on the show and we had a 65 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: wonderful interview with Barry. But the Beg's and a solo 66 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: career and so forth. 67 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: I love oh And I. 68 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: Think even in the documentary that they had an HBO, 69 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: they talked about DNA harmony. Yes, they're your siblings. So 70 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: you sing, you can really sing together in a kind 71 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: of unique way. Did you and Nancy have that? 72 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: Yes, we did, and we still do, and it's it's 73 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: just something that is unnameable. It's just I don't know. 74 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 3: Maybe it comes from the family, from riding in the 75 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: car as little kids and just harmonizing in the back 76 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,119 Speaker 3: seat or whatever, but it's just this way of knowing 77 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: what to do when and the other person knows exactly 78 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: that too at the same moment. 79 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: You know, your dad was in the military, Yes, and 80 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: you grew up for a lot of big chunk of 81 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: your childhood before you you headed to the Washington suburbs. 82 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: You went to Bellevue when you know. 83 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: How old eleven. So before that, it was San Diego, It. 84 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: Was many places, but it was yeah, Camp Pendleton, Quantico, Kemp, Lajun, Panama, Taiwan. 85 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: So your dad sounds like he was a pretty straight 86 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: guy and you know, no nonsense guy. 87 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: Is that true? 88 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: Or was he a little bit more of a free spirit? 89 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: What did he think of the music you eventually made 90 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: with Nancy? 91 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: What was his attitude? 92 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: He was a free spirit and he he wasn't really 93 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: cut out for the Marine Corps. In fact, he walked 94 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: away from the UH. He retired during the Vietnam War 95 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: because he did not believe in it, and he became 96 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: a teacher and loved to read poetry at parties and 97 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: sing and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, so he 98 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: actually did. Really he loved the fact that Nancy and 99 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: I were doing it. Our mother wasn't so sure. She 100 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 3: was a little bit more ambivalent because it was two 101 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: of the three daughters, you know, going into showbiz. 102 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: Now, when did the two of you decide this is 103 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: something you wanted to do professional was the setting of that. 104 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: When that becomes other people beckoned you, other people summoned 105 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: you and said you got to do this legit, or 106 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: you both pursued it. 107 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: Mostly it was me pursuing it. I had this thing 108 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: inside my chest that was just like this burning coal, 109 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 3: and I was kind of driven. I just wanted to 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: be in bands from the time I was fourteen, and 111 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: folk groups, any cocktail party, any church service, anywhere I 112 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: could get up in front of people, you know, And 113 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 3: one thing led to another, and pretty soon it was 114 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: real bands, and then it was more professional sounding bands, 115 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: and then it was bands. 116 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: And it was you alone and Nancy came along later, 117 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: or both of you together. From the start, I dragged her. 118 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: You didn't know. Why did you have to drag? Or 119 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: is she shy? 120 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: She's shy and she's more college material. She was in 121 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: university and she wanted to study, and I was like, no, no, no, no, 122 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: come on, I need you to harmonize it. 123 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not doing that, you're not going to college. 124 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,559 Speaker 2: What was your first band? 125 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: The very first one she and I had was called 126 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: The Viewpoints in Bellevue, when we were living just this 127 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: comfortable life at our parents' house, but yet writing all 128 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: these protest songs against culture and mister Jones, you know, 129 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: and the man the Man, Yeah, the man reeling against 130 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: the man. 131 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 132 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: And then when do you start to get closer to 133 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: what you're most known for. She's playing guitar, she's harmonizing, 134 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: and you're just ripping these rock songs. When does that start? 135 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: She went to college and I went off and got 136 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: into a rock band. I ripped her out of college, 137 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: said get up here. That was maybe four years later. 138 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: When she came and joined you. Did she just fold 139 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: right in? Did she even realize herself it was meant 140 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: to be this way? 141 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: She did, you know, in spite of herself, she was torn. 142 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: I think she has a dichotomous nature where she wants 143 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: to study and read Gerta and all this kind of stuff, 144 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: but she also wants to play acoustic guitar and sing 145 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: folk songs. And so we took that and we folded 146 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: it and made it into the songs that we first 147 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: wrote for Heart. 148 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: Musician Ann Wilson. If you enjoyed conversations with some of 149 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: rock and roll's greatest lead vocalists, be sure to catch 150 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: my episode with Roger Daltrey of The Who. 151 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 5: Can you imagine what it felt like to be presented 152 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 5: with those songs for the first time, to see what 153 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 5: you can do with this? We just slammed away. We 154 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: used to go into the studio and we used to 155 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 5: have to mate those records in probably two hours. 156 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: Max. 157 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you made the whole album in four hours, 158 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 5: But that's how it well. And then it was only 159 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 5: once I got presented with Happy Jack I had to 160 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 5: think totally different about how I, as a singer, was 161 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: going to sing Townsend songs and present them in any 162 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 5: kind of way that I could hold my head up 163 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 5: in the streets. 164 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: Hear more of my conversation with Roger Daltrey that hears 165 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: Thething dot Org. After the Break. Anne Wilson shares how 166 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: finding love changed everything for her, including her approach to music. 167 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: I'm Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the. 168 00:09:48,840 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 6: Thing Inside a Hurricane. 169 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 4: Win and. 170 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: Live Good Child. 171 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 4: No. 172 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: Other Way Tass to. 173 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: High Can. 174 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: This is Ann Wilson and the band Trip Sitter, with 175 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: the song Trip Sitter from the twenty twenty three album 176 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: Another Door. Wilson is a performing and recording veteran, having 177 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: showcased her powerhouse voice since Heart's debut in nineteen seventy five. 178 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: I wondered what was the very first song she recorded 179 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: with the band? 180 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: That was probably crazy on you? 181 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: Right? That was your first song recorded. 182 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: Professionally, Yes, up in Vancouver. 183 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: So when you recorded that, how did you feel you? 184 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: Did it feel right? 185 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: It was really exciting and I knew nothing. I knew 186 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: absolutely nothing. I'd never been in front of a mic 187 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: in a studio before, and I didn't know anything about 188 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: it or how to confront the mic or anything like that. 189 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 2: Did somebody teach you? 190 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 6: Yeah? 191 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 3: Our first producer, Mike Flicker was really patient. 192 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: He was helpful. 193 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he gave me confidence, and he just said, yeah, 194 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: do more like that? You know. 195 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: And when you did more like that, did you start 196 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: to access parts of yourself that you didn't even know 197 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: you had. 198 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: Did you just start becoming somebody else? 199 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: No? I think I didn't become somebody else. I think 200 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: I just kind of shed one skin and stood there 201 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: in another. It was let's shed the folk music skin 202 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: and sort of stand there in a rock skin. 203 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: You know. Did you like one? Did you like them both? 204 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: Did you like one one more than the other? 205 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: I liked them both, you And in fact, I think 206 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 3: that's what was always different about Heart and cool about 207 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: Heart is that it had both. It had softness and 208 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: it had this acoustic center, but yet it could go 209 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: just as hard as you please, you know. 210 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: And what about I mean, I'm assuming that all the 211 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: songs that I would know of the most famous of 212 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: your recordings, you guys wrote them, or you wrote them 213 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: with other people, Like who wrote Dog and Butterfly? 214 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: Oh, Nancy and I wrote that, You wrote that? 215 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: Uh huh? 216 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: And then Nancy and I and Roger Fisher wrote Barkuda. 217 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: But the two songs oddly fit together, the Dog and 218 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: the Butterfly, you know, right. 219 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: The dog, the butterfly and the barracuda, right, yeah, yeah, 220 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: right now? Who wrote Dreamboat? 221 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: Annie? 222 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: I did. 223 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: God, that's a beautiful song. 224 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: Thank you. 225 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: You play that song and you're like, wow, man, that's 226 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: so pretty. And then this is this range thing of yours. 227 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: My producers and I were reading about your if you 228 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: want to call it homage to Robert Plant and you 229 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: trying to kind of take on and learn some of 230 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: his vocal approaches, you know what I mean. And then 231 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: here you are, years later, this is where I last 232 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: saw you at the Kennedy Center Honors. 233 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, And isn't it magical? 234 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: That is whatever you felt about Plants and wanted to 235 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: emulate about Plant. 236 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: Here you go on. 237 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: Stage and sing a Stairway to Heaven and I think 238 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: I've seen one other person in my life try to 239 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: sing that music the way you did, and you blew 240 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: the roof off the building, you know I mean. And 241 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: even those guys are sitting up there in the box 242 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: with the President, I think even they were like, holy shit, 243 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: you know, this is the person that could sing this 244 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: song in the world. 245 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: How did you feel going out. 246 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: There to do that song that experience had the potential 247 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: of being extremely nervous, and it would have been easy 248 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: to take my eye off the wall and just get 249 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: all nervous and lose it, you know. So I made 250 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: up my mind just to only be in the song. 251 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: Just be in the song. That's it, and no other 252 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: world existed in that seven minutes. 253 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: Is that what it takes? Is that what it takes? 254 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? It does for me. 255 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: Do you sometimes go do a show. I'll never forget 256 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: when I would perform live and do Broadway. Not a lot, 257 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: but there was sometimes I'd sit there and go, oh God, 258 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: please don't make me go do this. 259 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: Show right now? 260 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I want to lay down and take a nap, 261 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: you know. But you got to find a way to 262 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: get your seat draggers. You got to become the guy 263 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: that drags yourself out there, you know. 264 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, and just you've got to show up 265 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: and actually be there. 266 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, put it out there. 267 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: Otherwise it's not fair to the people that are sitting 268 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: there watching you. I mean, you ask them to come 269 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: and sit and watch you, and then you phone it in. 270 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: I mean that's really lame. O. You know, don't do that. 271 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: You're a mother. You adopt the two kids, but you're 272 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: nonetheless on the road. And I always feel like, whether 273 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: you have the kid yourself or they're surrogate so they're adopted, 274 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: you're still a mother. What did you have to do 275 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: to kind of protect all that when you. 276 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: Were working and you're on the road? Old? I mean, 277 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: your kids are how old now? 278 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: Twenty five and thirty three, so. 279 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: They're still young, but there were they But when they've 280 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: been around you and in the business, what did you 281 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: try to protect them from or teach them about who 282 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: you are and what you do. 283 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: I shielded them from public view. I didn't want pictures 284 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: of them going up on the internet or anything like that, 285 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: and I'm glad I did because they have a chance 286 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: of being normal people. Now my son is a corrections 287 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: officer and my daughter is a mother of six. 288 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: No, she has six kids. 289 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: She just kept on going, yeah. 290 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got seven kids. Wow. 291 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: Did you find that in your life that songwriting was 292 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: something you enjoyed or was it? 293 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: Was it an effort? 294 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: For me? It was always an effort. It was until recently, 295 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: and I think it was because in the past I 296 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: always wrote with other people, and so I was always 297 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: secretly trying. 298 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: To please them, you know, and did and did right. 299 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: But now I write by myself, and like the last 300 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: bunch of songs I wrote for Another Door, it's just 301 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: a joy. It's so fun. Just write everything down that 302 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: you're feeling, and then go back and tweak it and 303 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: lift out the good stuff and get rid of the 304 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: bad stuff. 305 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: You know, you're married now, when you're married before, this 306 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: is your one marriage. This is my one marriage. So 307 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: all those years, I mean, I'm gonna put the cards 308 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: on the table. You're one of the most smoking hot 309 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: women in all of rock and roll who's also talented. 310 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: Ps is also mega talented. How did you resist all 311 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: the men just ladling jewelry at your feet and begging 312 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: you to marry them? 313 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: God, if that had been the case, I don't know 314 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: whether you mean it wasn't like that ladling jewelry. Wow, 315 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: you know I had my fair share of flings, you know. 316 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you didn't. But that didn't fit into your plan, No, 317 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: it didn't. 318 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 3: I was always more mission oriented about the band and 319 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: about music and everything until this one guy came along 320 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: and just suddenly that was irrelevant. Really, it's just like 321 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: everything just changed, you know, I'm sure you know what 322 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: I mean. It's it's it's just like the thing that 323 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 3: happens when the person comes along. When do we ever 324 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: think smart when we're in love? I mean, does that exist? 325 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: Hearts Ann Wilson. 326 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: If you're enjoying this conversation, tell a friend and be 327 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: sure to follow Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, 328 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. After the Break, 329 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: Anne Wilson shares what it was like to be estranged 330 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: from her sister for a time and how they were 331 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: able to come back together. I'm Alec Baldwin and you're 332 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: listening to Here's the. 333 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 2: Thing bar and wait. 334 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 6: Started pleaseing my song always Top. 335 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: This is Ann Wilson with Miss One and Only, from 336 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: her twenty twenty three album Another Door with her band Tripsetter. 337 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: Anne Wilson has been praised as one of the greatest 338 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: singers in the history of rock, and thanks to her 339 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: legendary voice, found decades of success with her band Hearts. However, 340 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: Wilson revealed in the autobiography Kicking and Screaming a story 341 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: of heart, soul and rock and roll, but she has 342 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: been sober since two thousand and nine. I was curious 343 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: if there was something about the rock and roll lifestyle 344 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: that was connected to her addictions. 345 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: A feeling of alienation. The drug itself has magnetic properties, yeah, 346 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: but above and beyond that, it was the thing to do. 347 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: And if you're a cool person, you did it. It 348 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 3: gave you this feeling of super confidence, blows up your 349 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: ego to this huge. 350 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: Did you energy? 351 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 352 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: And then when when it came time to stop, was 353 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: it enormously difficult or did you stop? And because it 354 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: all kind of came together and you knew that was 355 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: right as well. 356 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you it's kind of funny now. At 357 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: the time, it was probably scary to other people. But 358 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: Nancy and I decided to stop doing cocaine, and so 359 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: we stepped down onto ecstasy and we did that for 360 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: a little bit, down shifted, yeah, yeah, right, and then 361 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: after a while that wore within and so then it 362 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: was just no more. 363 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: Many of the biggest bands in the world, I mean, 364 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: obviously the Beatles and things like that, they go for 365 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: whatever period of time. 366 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: In the Beatles case, you know, not that long, you know, 367 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: eight years. 368 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, they crank out all that unique music in eight years. 369 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: But for you, your sister is your partner and then 370 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: for a while your sister is not partner. 371 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: Was that difficults It was difficult because we've always been tight. 372 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 3: We never allowed other people to come into our relationship 373 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: until then, and then we had we had other people saying, well, 374 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: she says this, and she says that, You know, so 375 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: it got to be a little bit of a drama. 376 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 3: Things have really straightened themselves out now. 377 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: Right when you got back together with her, did it 378 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: seemed like it was? Right? 379 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's feeling more and more righteous all the time 380 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: because she's been places too, so she has to soften 381 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: up too. It's not just me, right, of course, we 382 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: both have to soften back into our relationship together. 383 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: Talk about your solo work. When you started doing solo work, 384 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: was that all you did? 385 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 2: You say? 386 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: Did you want to stop for a while and take 387 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: a breath, or and did other people say to you, no, man, 388 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: you got to get back out there and keep doing this, 389 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: or did you know you had to go out there 390 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: and keep doing it? 391 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 3: Well? You know hard it come to a natural stopping point, 392 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 3: not a breakup point, but just like a point where 393 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: it was out of gas right right, and I wasn't 394 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: gonna let it just become a jukebox. So that was 395 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: my cue to go out there and do something on 396 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: my own and get some new chops, you know, and 397 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: sing some news songs and figure some new stuff out. 398 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: You got to do that, I'm sure you know that. 399 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 3: As an actor, I mean, you can't just rehash the 400 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: same old ideas again and again and again. 401 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Well also can as an actor. The condition is about 402 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: the quality of the material. Where you might go do 403 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: a revival of a famous play and put your touches 404 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: on that of that role. 405 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: And the interesting thing is, you know the material works 406 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: like this is classic literature. 407 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: Williams shaw Miller, and you want to get out there 408 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: and have a whack at that material because in the movies, 409 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, they're in the potato chip business man. There 410 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: are not that many serious roles and there aren't that 411 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: many serious projects. Did you ever contemplate doing something for 412 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: a living ever in your entire life since you became 413 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: a musician, a professional musician. 414 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to do. 415 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. 416 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a time when I considered trying to 417 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 3: act a little bit. But I don't have that. I 418 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: don't have that in me. For me, music is the thing, 419 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 3: because that's the that's my literature. 420 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,239 Speaker 2: You know. 421 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: I look at videos of you when you're younger and 422 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: you're singing crazy on you and you're singing Barracuda and 423 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: you're flicking that hair, you're tossing that hair and like 424 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: a little banshee. It'she You're this gorgeous little banshee. And 425 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: what would Anne Wilson now tell that girl back then? 426 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: Oh? 427 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: I would say do what you're doing, I mean your gut. 428 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 4: You know. 429 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: I may have seemed one way, but I felt ways 430 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 3: that were really strong back then, right, such as, you 431 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: don't treat us this way, right because we're girls. You 432 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: don't just you know, drop us by the door. 433 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: No, you had to fight. 434 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: You had to fight, Yeah, you had to fight the 435 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: way you were treated by a male centric business. 436 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: Correct. 437 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 3: Yes, but the type of fighting was very careful, because 438 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: you don't just want to alienate people and have them 439 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 3: just hate you. 440 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: When you talk about putting into your music some of 441 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: these feelings you had. Do you think your audience got that? 442 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: I think they picked up or you didn't really care? 443 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: You got it and that's all that mattered. Did the 444 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: audience pick up on it? 445 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 4: Well? 446 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: I always really hoped that the audience got it, and 447 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: I think they did from things people have said to 448 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 3: me in later years, you know, like men and women alike. 449 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: I think that when they look back on some of 450 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: the songs, you know, and some of the stuff we did. 451 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 3: There were no other women out there except Suzi Quattro 452 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: when we started. She was the only one and she 453 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: was awesome. But that's one, you know. 454 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: My last question for you is you write songs about 455 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: what you wrote about back then? What songs do you 456 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: want to write about now when you sit down, whether 457 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: you succeed at it yet or not, or these songs 458 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: are yet to come during your solo years, what do 459 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: you want to write about now? 460 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: Well? I wrote one called This is Now. I wrote 461 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 3: one called Reign of Hell, which is an anti Wars creed. 462 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 3: Just all different kinds of subjects, like I wrote one 463 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 3: about a botched back alley abortion. Wow, it's kind of 464 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: gently it is poetic, but that's what it's about, you know. 465 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: It's called the Little Things. When are you going down 466 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: on tour in April? 467 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 2: Where are you going? 468 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 3: Everywhere? 469 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 2: Man? 470 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: Everywhere? 471 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: Everywhere? 472 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: Man, I gotta tell you something. You're so great, Thank you, 473 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: thank you. You're such a great singer. You blow my 474 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: mind when I watch you, I listen to you, I 475 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: mean you blow. You can do everything, you can do 476 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: everything my best you and thanks for doing this with me. 477 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: Oh well, thanks for having me. I really really had. 478 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: Fun my thanks to Ann Wilson. You can find more 479 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: information about Heart's world tour at heartdash music dot com. 480 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: I'll leave you with a little more of straight on 481 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: from their nineteen seventy eight album Dog and Butterfly. 482 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 2: I'm Alec Baldwin. 483 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: Here's the thing is brought to you by iHeart Radio. 484 00:26:50,400 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: Man, Stay down, stand up for use me, stay. 485 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: Say up, Stay up. 486 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: You need 487 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: Stay up.