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<v Speaker 1>Second date up date. You know what's more annoying than

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<v Speaker 1>being just blown off for a date? Somebody constantly scheduling

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<v Speaker 1>with you and then changing it over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again, because it's like, why can't you

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<v Speaker 1>just be honest and say I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>out with you instead of constantly stringing me along and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, uh, I can't go out today, but how

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<v Speaker 1>about like two weeks from now, and then you schedule

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<v Speaker 1>two from Oh my god, something else came up. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the issue that Jill is having. Jill is on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone today for a second day update. She emailed us

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<v Speaker 1>about a guy named Sam that she met online. Jill,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? I'm good? How are you? Guys? So

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to be the issue. Huh Sam is just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stringing you along. Yeah, he just keeps pushing

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<v Speaker 1>things further and further away from me, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand why. Okay, well, how did you meet him?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all? We met online? You did. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was super nice and we had talked for a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks before we actually decided to me. But we

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<v Speaker 1>did have like good conversation throughout that time. Was it

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<v Speaker 1>a dinner and drinks type of situation? Yeah, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a dinner day okay. And he was just super

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<v Speaker 1>nice and handsome, and I was just like really excited

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But there was like a red flag. What

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<v Speaker 1>was that? I really thought he was a good guy,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was giving him every signal I could think

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<v Speaker 1>of to try and get him to kiss me. You're

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<v Speaker 1>like touching his arm, You're pushing your boobs together, You're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to closer to him. Yes, yes, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>shuffling of the keys at my car door, like everything. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the worst when you're standing there and just waiting. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And even more embarrassing is that there was a point

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<v Speaker 1>where I was literally like inches away from him, like

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<v Speaker 1>our toes worth touching, okay, and he just was not

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<v Speaker 1>getting it. No, no, And all he could muster was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hang out this weekend. In his defense, maybe he's

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<v Speaker 1>just a guy that gets nervous in that situation, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he doesn't kiss on the first date. There are

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<v Speaker 1>some guys like that. It's very rare. Usually guys don't

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<v Speaker 1>kiss on the first date because they're scared to go

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<v Speaker 1>in for it. I've been in that situation too, where

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell a girl wants to kiss you really bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but still in the back of your head, and you're like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she went out. I don't think she

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed herself enough to do it. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Then the date is over and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>damn it, I miss the opportunity. So really, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happened. Why didn't you just kiss him, Jill?

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<v Speaker 1>What kept you from doing that? I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to make all the moves to get him

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<v Speaker 1>to know that I was interested, so him like not

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<v Speaker 1>reciprocating in the same way. I felt like nervous about

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<v Speaker 1>it because I'm like, I'm not gonna just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>jump on him because I was giving him all these signals.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like he didn't want to kiss you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's what I don't understand. Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a good sign that he said, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hang out this weekend, so I'm like, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't not have an interest in me. He does

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<v Speaker 1>because he wants to see me more. And anytime you

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<v Speaker 1>refer to future plans, it's always a good sign. If

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<v Speaker 1>we call this guy and get him on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, dude, she just was like a close talker,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at the end of the night while she's jingling

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<v Speaker 1>or keys in my face. Her breath was just terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought about kissing her and she just smells funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna be upset? Of course, but I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I would at least like to know, because he keeps

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<v Speaker 1>making these future plans, but then they just keep getting pushed,

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<v Speaker 1>like every three days, like the day comes and then

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, sorry, I forgot about this with work or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hang out a couple of days from now. And

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<v Speaker 1>then that day comes and you're like, you're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>kill me. But this and this came up. How many

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<v Speaker 1>times has he rescheduled five times? Do you think he's

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<v Speaker 1>just flaky or do you think that he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>not see you? I don't know. I usually think that

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<v Speaker 1>like you would just stop responding or send me a

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<v Speaker 1>tax and it just didn't work out or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>don't keep bree scheduling, and I just really want help

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<v Speaker 1>with it because I don't know what went wrong. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the person who overbooks myself and I always screw somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in the situation and it doesn't feel good. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's just that you know, he has a couple more

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<v Speaker 1>priorities over you right now because you've only gone on

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<v Speaker 1>one date. Yeah, and I understand that. I just would

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<v Speaker 1>want to know that that's the truth. Yeah, not feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he's just stringing me along, you know what I mean? Totally.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're kind of in that weird limo spot where

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, Okay, is he really that busy or is

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<v Speaker 1>he blowing me off? Exactly? Okay, Well, we'll play a song,

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<v Speaker 1>come back, call him and get your second date update,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully we can find the answer for you. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. All right, hang on looking jubil

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning. Second update. All right, Jill, you're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go with your second date update? Yeah, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>do have to tell you unfortunately, I'm gonna need to

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<v Speaker 1>reschedule your second day update for three days from now. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all right, don't do that if you're just tuning in.

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<v Speaker 1>Jill wants us to call this guy named Sam. They

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<v Speaker 1>met online, had a nice date. At the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the date, he kind of chickened out and kissing her,

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<v Speaker 1>but they made plans to go out again, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>been blowing her off constantly, just rescheduling the date. He

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't actually said he doesn't want to see her again.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna give him a call, see if we

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<v Speaker 1>can get him on the phone and ask if he's

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately busy and has to switch the date every time

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<v Speaker 1>because he's switching now five times, Is that right, Joe, Yeah, five,

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<v Speaker 1>he switched your date five times. So we're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>if he's actually busy or if he really is just

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<v Speaker 1>blowing her off. And if he is legitimately busy, you

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<v Speaker 1>want us to try to nail down a date so

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can actually go out. Actually, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to find out where he is right now, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just meet him right It's even a better idea,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if we're get him on the phone, he's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really busy. Just dude, stay where you are. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get her car to come meet you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot Okay, I'm gonna call him right now so

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<v Speaker 1>you can get him on the phone. Hello, Hey Sam there, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>see Sam. How are you. This is Jewil from Brook

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<v Speaker 1>and Jewil in the Morning. Okay, Hey, are you familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with our show at all? I mean kind of? Okay? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling you because I have something to ask you about.

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<v Speaker 1>You recently went out with a girl named Jill who

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<v Speaker 1>listens to our show. Yeah, I did, Okay, and Jill.

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<v Speaker 1>Jill emailed us and told us a little bit about meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>You told us about your date, said that she liked

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<v Speaker 1>you a lot. She says that you guys have tried

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<v Speaker 1>to schedule meetings to go out again, and every single

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<v Speaker 1>time the date comes up, you switch it for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days, like you've blown her off five times now,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's wondering if you actually really want to go

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<v Speaker 1>out again or if you are not into her, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're just afraid to tell her that no, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going I've texted her. Okay, I'm just busy. I'm really busy.

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<v Speaker 1>That was her worry, because she told us that you've

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<v Speaker 1>texted her and you've like changed the date every single

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<v Speaker 1>time that you guys are supposed to go out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've work, I'm I'm busy. I mean, she's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice girl, she's great. God, I just have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to do right now. But you can see how

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<v Speaker 1>she'd think that you're blowing her off, right. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>really that busy? Yes'm I'm busy, guys. I mean, why

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<v Speaker 1>are you questioning like I'm lying? Well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>just because it's sam, I don't mean. Yeah, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in the situation before where you know, I've either done

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<v Speaker 1>that to somebody or somebody has done that to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and you feel like, man, they just don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>see me again. So Jill emailed us to call you

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<v Speaker 1>and ask if you didn't want to see her again.

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<v Speaker 1>So you do want to see Jill again? Yes, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she was. She's great, she's pretty, she's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm busy right now. You know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to find the time. What are you so busy with?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know you work, but five times is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Are you just kind of nervous around her?

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<v Speaker 1>It's understandable if you are. I mean, I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like uncomfortable about this. So I can tell you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. If you promise you just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like stop questioning me about it, brought me about it,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's making me a little awkward for sure. Man, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to let Jill know that you actually

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<v Speaker 1>like her so we can get you guys in the

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<v Speaker 1>same place at the same time, like you've been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Just you can let her. Maybe it'll help

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<v Speaker 1>if you let her know that I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>see her again. It's just there's a reason why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking it slow. It's because I didn't get opera. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months back split from my ex, and

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<v Speaker 1>she emailed me and she told me the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>she broke up with me is because she said I

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<v Speaker 1>was a bad kisser. Oh, all right, that sucks. So

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<v Speaker 1>you got broken up with because you're a bad kisser

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why you are scared to kiss Jill. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that can't be a real reason, and that

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<v Speaker 1>your ax is just trying to hurt your feelings, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't she seemed pretty specific in the email,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't you know, Yeah, that would suck. Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's somebody can say they don't like your personality, but

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<v Speaker 1>then to be like, oh, you're a terrible kiss are

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<v Speaker 1>so bad that I couldn't stay with you, that's gotta

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<v Speaker 1>like stick with you for a little while. It does,

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<v Speaker 1>It does, and that's why I'm trying to get better

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<v Speaker 1>at it. That's what I'm doing right now. It's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get better at it. I'm trying to get better.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean you're trying to get better at it?

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<v Speaker 1>There's a school that helps you with that's a kissing school.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you being real? Yes, that's why I've been the

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<v Speaker 1>dates back because I've been busy going to school. Then

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<v Speaker 1>like workshop, you're Sam, You're going to a kissing school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is why, you know, that's why I'm uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Like I tell people, you know, if I

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<v Speaker 1>tell somebody, they're not gonna believe me, or they think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a joke or something. It's like a knowledge that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>This really exists. It's not like you're meeting somebody in

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<v Speaker 1>the back alley right. No, no, no, this is a legit,

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<v Speaker 1>real school. It costs me three hundred and seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>bucks to sign up, and you know, they offer you

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<v Speaker 1>workshops and there's one on one lessons and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it takes a little bit of time, and once

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done, that's when I know I'll call Jilla. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>go back out. Hey, Sam, good for you, man, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, thank you for sharing that with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. I know, like you said, you feel

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed about that. But if you feel like you were

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<v Speaker 1>a bad kisser and you didn't want to kiss her,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think that a girl would be flattered by

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you've just paid three and or seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars to go get classes to learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>kiss her. Right, Yeah, honestly, that's what I'm hoping for.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, if you guys can tell her I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see her again. I get you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely told her, but if maybe you know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of back me up, that would be great. Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, why don't you just tell her because

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<v Speaker 1>she's actually on the phone listening. Wait what, Jill just

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<v Speaker 1>listened to our conversation. Oh, I had no idea that

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<v Speaker 1>that was the reason. What's going on here? It's called

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<v Speaker 1>a second date update. We do it on our show

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<v Speaker 1>where we call somebody who went on a date with

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<v Speaker 1>one of our listeners and they think they're being blown off,

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<v Speaker 1>and we asked them what happened. We have that person

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<v Speaker 1>listen on the other line to see if we can

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<v Speaker 1>get an answer. And Jill just heard you say that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to a kissing school, so hopefully you can

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<v Speaker 1>kiss her better if you, guys ever go out again.

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<v Speaker 1>Please tell me this is like make believe. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>make believes you poor baby. I'm so sorry you had

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<v Speaker 1>to go through that. Uh, you know, this is really

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing for me. I mean, I screwed up somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, obviously, I'm just trying to fix it. Funnel

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<v Speaker 1>do it again with you. And yeah, Sam, you make

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<v Speaker 1>it sound like you're like a drug addict who like

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<v Speaker 1>had a problem. You just were told by the next

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't kiss that. Well, it's like a problem

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<v Speaker 1>you had in your past. I think you're gonna be okay, man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I actually think it's really cool that you're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're trying to look into it and make

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<v Speaker 1>yourself feel more confident about it and you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about it. Well, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>pressure you or anything, but I mean that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I enjoyed our time. I really do like you, Jill.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed going out with you, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to ruin it by, you know, being a bad kiss us,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like she thought was bad, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think I'm bad and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go out with me anymore, it's like no, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand why there would be a fear there, but I

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<v Speaker 1>really it can't be so bad that I would, Yeah, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>I would. It would find it hard to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>you're that bad of a kisser that Jill's gonna kiss

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<v Speaker 1>you one time after she already likes you from your

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<v Speaker 1>first date and then she's just gonna go running for

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<v Speaker 1>the hills, like, oh my god, I's terrible. I doubt

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<v Speaker 1>that you're that bad of a kisser. I thought I

0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.360
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that bad before, but clearly someone broke up with

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<v Speaker 1>me better now it's and it's sometimes like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>that two people's chemistry doesn't work well together, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it was just you and your ex kissing with a

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<v Speaker 1>different person different every time. I mean to think of

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<v Speaker 1>all the cool stuff you've learned. Yeah, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>the classes I've been good and I really feel more

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable doing it. I just want it to be you know, perfect,

0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:13.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean they say these first kids is

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<v Speaker 1>always like that's the big thing, you know, Sam, I

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<v Speaker 1>have an idea while you save the rest of your

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and seventy five dollars and we just go

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<v Speaker 1>out on dates and then we can practice. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea, Jail, Sam, would you like to go out

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<v Speaker 1>with Jill again on a second date. We will pay

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<v Speaker 1>for it, of course, I mean, yeah, absolutely, And before

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<v Speaker 1>your classes are done at the kissing school, I want

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<v Speaker 1>you guys to go out soon. Okay, yeah, I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do that. I mean I would rather, I

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<v Speaker 1>would rather practice with her. Yeah, there you go, extra credit, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>So you'll go out with Jill again. Absolutely, I want you, Jill.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming you want to be his kissing coach from

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<v Speaker 1>this point on. Oh of course. All congratulations, And you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Jill you got your second date. We'll send you guys

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<v Speaker 1>out again, alight. And if before you guys get more

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<v Speaker 1>intimate and he suddenly disappears, he's like I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to a sex school trying to figure out I would

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<v Speaker 1>not recommend another date after that, okay, Jew in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>text in at seven eight, five nine two says that's

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<v Speaker 1>so sweet. I almost cried. Really enjoyed the kissing classes.

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<v Speaker 1>Cutie pies is what it says. Broken jewel in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're talking about the second date update if you

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<v Speaker 1>missed it. Jill went out what the dude named Scott

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<v Speaker 1>once and after that date he kept being kind of

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<v Speaker 1>elusive and postponing the second meetup. In fact, he rescheduled

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<v Speaker 1>five different times, and Jill thought, of course she was

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<v Speaker 1>being blown off and can figure out why because they

0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.280
<v Speaker 1>had such a great time. And we got Scott on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone and he revealed that the reason that he

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<v Speaker 1>kept promising a date and then changing it is because

0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.880
<v Speaker 1>he enrolled himself in a kissing class to improve his

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<v Speaker 1>kissing skills. He said he had an X who recently

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<v Speaker 1>said the reason she dumped him is becau he's a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible kisser, so he's trying to fix that. I just

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<v Speaker 1>have so many questions about these kissing schools. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know they exist at all. Interesting. Jill thought the

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<v Speaker 1>reason was endearing and cute, and of course wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go out with him again if he learns to be

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<v Speaker 1>a better kisser. Yeah, I wonder how bad he really

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<v Speaker 1>was Toy, Yes, exactly. I mean, just keep doing it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get better. I think, well, I don't know. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple of boyfriends and I'm like, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>ever going to improve. There's some people who never get

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<v Speaker 1>better at it at all, so they're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>out again. Remember, if you want a second date update,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do his email the show, and we

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<v Speaker 1>will call the person who didn't call you back to