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Speaker 1: Second date up date. You know what's more annoying than
Speaker 1: being just blown off for a date? Somebody constantly scheduling
Speaker 1: with you and then changing it over and over and
Speaker 1: over and over again, because it's like, why can't you
Speaker 1: just be honest and say I don't want to go
Speaker 1: out with you instead of constantly stringing me along and
Speaker 1: be like, uh, I can't go out today, but how
Speaker 1: about like two weeks from now, and then you schedule
Speaker 1: two from Oh my god, something else came up. That's
Speaker 1: the issue that Jill is having. Jill is on the
Speaker 1: phone today for a second day update. She emailed us
Speaker 1: about a guy named Sam that she met online. Jill,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good? How are you? Guys? So
Speaker 1: that seems to be the issue. Huh Sam is just
Speaker 1: kind of stringing you along. Yeah, he just keeps pushing
Speaker 1: things further and further away from me, and I just
Speaker 1: don't understand why. Okay, well, how did you meet him?
Speaker 1: First of all? We met online? You did. I thought
Speaker 1: he was super nice and we had talked for a
Speaker 1: few weeks before we actually decided to me. But we
Speaker 1: did have like good conversation throughout that time. Was it
Speaker 1: a dinner and drinks type of situation? Yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a dinner day okay. And he was just super
Speaker 1: nice and handsome, and I was just like really excited
Speaker 1: about it. But there was like a red flag. What
Speaker 1: was that? I really thought he was a good guy,
Speaker 1: so I was giving him every signal I could think
Speaker 1: of to try and get him to kiss me. You're
Speaker 1: like touching his arm, You're pushing your boobs together, You're
Speaker 1: trying to closer to him. Yes, yes, you know, the
Speaker 1: shuffling of the keys at my car door, like everything. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's the worst when you're standing there and just waiting. Yes.
Speaker 1: And even more embarrassing is that there was a point
Speaker 1: where I was literally like inches away from him, like
Speaker 1: our toes worth touching, okay, and he just was not
Speaker 1: getting it. No, no, And all he could muster was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's hang out this weekend. In his defense, maybe he's
Speaker 1: just a guy that gets nervous in that situation, or
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't kiss on the first date. There are
Speaker 1: some guys like that. It's very rare. Usually guys don't
Speaker 1: kiss on the first date because they're scared to go
Speaker 1: in for it. I've been in that situation too, where
Speaker 1: I can tell a girl wants to kiss you really bad,
Speaker 1: but still in the back of your head, and you're like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think she went out. I don't think she
Speaker 1: enjoyed herself enough to do it. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: do it. Then the date is over and you're like,
Speaker 1: damn it, I miss the opportunity. So really, I hope
Speaker 1: that's what happened. Why didn't you just kiss him, Jill?
Speaker 1: What kept you from doing that? I felt like I
Speaker 1: was trying to make all the moves to get him
Speaker 1: to know that I was interested, so him like not
Speaker 1: reciprocating in the same way. I felt like nervous about
Speaker 1: it because I'm like, I'm not gonna just, you know,
Speaker 1: jump on him because I was giving him all these signals.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like he didn't want to kiss you.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what I don't understand. Like, I
Speaker 1: thought it was a good sign that he said, all right,
Speaker 1: let's hang out this weekend, so I'm like, Okay, so
Speaker 1: he doesn't not have an interest in me. He does
Speaker 1: because he wants to see me more. And anytime you
Speaker 1: refer to future plans, it's always a good sign. If
Speaker 1: we call this guy and get him on the phone
Speaker 1: and he says, dude, she just was like a close talker,
Speaker 1: especially at the end of the night while she's jingling
Speaker 1: or keys in my face. Her breath was just terrible,
Speaker 1: and I thought about kissing her and she just smells funny.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be upset? Of course, but I would.
Speaker 1: I would at least like to know, because he keeps
Speaker 1: making these future plans, but then they just keep getting pushed,
Speaker 1: like every three days, like the day comes and then
Speaker 1: he's like, sorry, I forgot about this with work or whatever.
Speaker 1: Let's hang out a couple of days from now. And
Speaker 1: then that day comes and you're like, you're just gonna
Speaker 1: kill me. But this and this came up. How many
Speaker 1: times has he rescheduled five times? Do you think he's
Speaker 1: just flaky or do you think that he's trying to
Speaker 1: not see you? I don't know. I usually think that
Speaker 1: like you would just stop responding or send me a
Speaker 1: tax and it just didn't work out or whatever. But
Speaker 1: don't keep bree scheduling, and I just really want help
Speaker 1: with it because I don't know what went wrong. I'm
Speaker 1: the person who overbooks myself and I always screw somebody
Speaker 1: in the situation and it doesn't feel good. So maybe
Speaker 1: it's just that you know, he has a couple more
Speaker 1: priorities over you right now because you've only gone on
Speaker 1: one date. Yeah, and I understand that. I just would
Speaker 1: want to know that that's the truth. Yeah, not feel
Speaker 1: like he's just stringing me along, you know what I mean? Totally.
Speaker 1: So you're kind of in that weird limo spot where
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, is he really that busy or is
Speaker 1: he blowing me off? Exactly? Okay, Well, we'll play a song,
Speaker 1: come back, call him and get your second date update,
Speaker 1: and hopefully we can find the answer for you. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. All right, hang on looking jubil
Speaker 1: in the morning. Second update. All right, Jill, you're ready
Speaker 1: to go with your second date update? Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: do have to tell you unfortunately, I'm gonna need to
Speaker 1: reschedule your second day update for three days from now. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all right, don't do that if you're just tuning in.
Speaker 1: Jill wants us to call this guy named Sam. They
Speaker 1: met online, had a nice date. At the end of
Speaker 1: the date, he kind of chickened out and kissing her,
Speaker 1: but they made plans to go out again, and he's
Speaker 1: been blowing her off constantly, just rescheduling the date. He
Speaker 1: hasn't actually said he doesn't want to see her again.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna give him a call, see if we
Speaker 1: can get him on the phone and ask if he's
Speaker 1: legitimately busy and has to switch the date every time
Speaker 1: because he's switching now five times, Is that right, Joe, Yeah, five,
Speaker 1: he switched your date five times. So we're gonna see
Speaker 1: if he's actually busy or if he really is just
Speaker 1: blowing her off. And if he is legitimately busy, you
Speaker 1: want us to try to nail down a date so
Speaker 1: you guys can actually go out. Actually, I just want
Speaker 1: to find out where he is right now, and now
Speaker 1: I'll just meet him right It's even a better idea,
Speaker 1: Like if we're get him on the phone, he's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm really busy. Just dude, stay where you are. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get her car to come meet you right now.
Speaker 1: A lot Okay, I'm gonna call him right now so
Speaker 1: you can get him on the phone. Hello, Hey Sam there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: see Sam. How are you. This is Jewil from Brook
Speaker 1: and Jewil in the Morning. Okay, Hey, are you familiar
Speaker 1: with our show at all? I mean kind of? Okay? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm calling you because I have something to ask you about.
Speaker 1: You recently went out with a girl named Jill who
Speaker 1: listens to our show. Yeah, I did, Okay, and Jill.
Speaker 1: Jill emailed us and told us a little bit about meeting.
Speaker 1: You told us about your date, said that she liked
Speaker 1: you a lot. She says that you guys have tried
Speaker 1: to schedule meetings to go out again, and every single
Speaker 1: time the date comes up, you switch it for a
Speaker 1: couple of days, like you've blown her off five times now,
Speaker 1: and she's wondering if you actually really want to go
Speaker 1: out again or if you are not into her, and
Speaker 1: you're just afraid to tell her that no, I'm not
Speaker 1: going I've texted her. Okay, I'm just busy. I'm really busy.
Speaker 1: That was her worry, because she told us that you've
Speaker 1: texted her and you've like changed the date every single
Speaker 1: time that you guys are supposed to go out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I've work, I'm I'm busy. I mean, she's
Speaker 1: a nice girl, she's great. God, I just have a
Speaker 1: lot to do right now. But you can see how
Speaker 1: she'd think that you're blowing her off, right. Are you
Speaker 1: really that busy? Yes'm I'm busy, guys. I mean, why
Speaker 1: are you questioning like I'm lying? Well, I don't know
Speaker 1: just because it's sam, I don't mean. Yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: in the situation before where you know, I've either done
Speaker 1: that to somebody or somebody has done that to me,
Speaker 1: and you feel like, man, they just don't want to
Speaker 1: see me again. So Jill emailed us to call you
Speaker 1: and ask if you didn't want to see her again.
Speaker 1: So you do want to see Jill again? Yes, of course,
Speaker 1: I mean she was. She's great, she's pretty, she's awesome.
Speaker 1: I just I'm busy right now. You know, we have
Speaker 1: to find the time. What are you so busy with?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you work, but five times is
Speaker 1: a lot. Are you just kind of nervous around her?
Speaker 1: It's understandable if you are. I mean, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: like uncomfortable about this. So I can tell you, guys,
Speaker 1: what's going on. If you promise you just kind of
Speaker 1: like stop questioning me about it, brought me about it,
Speaker 1: because it's making me a little awkward for sure. Man, Like,
Speaker 1: I just want to let Jill know that you actually
Speaker 1: like her so we can get you guys in the
Speaker 1: same place at the same time, like you've been trying
Speaker 1: to do. Just you can let her. Maybe it'll help
Speaker 1: if you let her know that I do want to
Speaker 1: see her again. It's just there's a reason why I'm
Speaker 1: taking it slow. It's because I didn't get opera. She's
Speaker 1: a couple of months back split from my ex, and
Speaker 1: she emailed me and she told me the reason why
Speaker 1: she broke up with me is because she said I
Speaker 1: was a bad kisser. Oh, all right, that sucks. So
Speaker 1: you got broken up with because you're a bad kisser
Speaker 1: and that's why you are scared to kiss Jill. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know that can't be a real reason, and that
Speaker 1: your ax is just trying to hurt your feelings, right,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't she seemed pretty specific in the email,
Speaker 1: So I don't you know, Yeah, that would suck. Like
Speaker 1: there's somebody can say they don't like your personality, but
Speaker 1: then to be like, oh, you're a terrible kiss are
Speaker 1: so bad that I couldn't stay with you, that's gotta
Speaker 1: like stick with you for a little while. It does,
Speaker 1: It does, and that's why I'm trying to get better
Speaker 1: at it. That's what I'm doing right now. It's trying
Speaker 1: to get better at it. I'm trying to get better.
Speaker 1: What do you mean you're trying to get better at it?
Speaker 1: There's a school that helps you with that's a kissing school.
Speaker 1: Are you being real? Yes, that's why I've been the
Speaker 1: dates back because I've been busy going to school. Then
Speaker 1: like workshop, you're Sam, You're going to a kissing school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this is why, you know, that's why I'm uncomfortable
Speaker 1: about it. Like I tell people, you know, if I
Speaker 1: tell somebody, they're not gonna believe me, or they think
Speaker 1: it's a joke or something. It's like a knowledge that's awesome.
Speaker 1: This really exists. It's not like you're meeting somebody in
Speaker 1: the back alley right. No, no, no, this is a legit,
Speaker 1: real school. It costs me three hundred and seventy five
Speaker 1: bucks to sign up, and you know, they offer you
Speaker 1: workshops and there's one on one lessons and all that,
Speaker 1: and it takes a little bit of time, and once
Speaker 1: I'm done, that's when I know I'll call Jilla. We'll
Speaker 1: go back out. Hey, Sam, good for you, man, Like
Speaker 1: you know what, thank you for sharing that with us.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I know, like you said, you feel
Speaker 1: embarrassed about that. But if you feel like you were
Speaker 1: a bad kisser and you didn't want to kiss her,
Speaker 1: I would think that a girl would be flattered by
Speaker 1: the fact that you've just paid three and or seventy
Speaker 1: five dollars to go get classes to learn how to
Speaker 1: kiss her. Right, Yeah, honestly, that's what I'm hoping for.
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you guys can tell her I
Speaker 1: want to see her again. I get you know, I
Speaker 1: definitely told her, but if maybe you know, you can
Speaker 1: kind of back me up, that would be great. Sam.
Speaker 1: You know what, why don't you just tell her because
Speaker 1: she's actually on the phone listening. Wait what, Jill just
Speaker 1: listened to our conversation. Oh, I had no idea that
Speaker 1: that was the reason. What's going on here? It's called
Speaker 1: a second date update. We do it on our show
Speaker 1: where we call somebody who went on a date with
Speaker 1: one of our listeners and they think they're being blown off,
Speaker 1: and we asked them what happened. We have that person
Speaker 1: listen on the other line to see if we can
Speaker 1: get an answer. And Jill just heard you say that
Speaker 1: you're going to a kissing school, so hopefully you can
Speaker 1: kiss her better if you, guys ever go out again.
Speaker 1: Please tell me this is like make believe. It's not
Speaker 1: make believes you poor baby. I'm so sorry you had
Speaker 1: to go through that. Uh, you know, this is really
Speaker 1: embarrassing for me. I mean, I screwed up somewhere in
Speaker 1: the past, obviously, I'm just trying to fix it. Funnel
Speaker 1: do it again with you. And yeah, Sam, you make
Speaker 1: it sound like you're like a drug addict who like
Speaker 1: had a problem. You just were told by the next
Speaker 1: that you don't kiss that. Well, it's like a problem
Speaker 1: you had in your past. I think you're gonna be okay, man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I actually think it's really cool that you're
Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to look into it and make
Speaker 1: yourself feel more confident about it and you don't even
Speaker 1: have to worry about it. Well, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: pressure you or anything, but I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I enjoyed our time. I really do like you, Jill.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed going out with you, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to ruin it by, you know, being a bad kiss us,
Speaker 1: because it's like she thought was bad, and you know,
Speaker 1: if you think I'm bad and you don't want to
Speaker 1: go out with me anymore, it's like no, no, I
Speaker 1: understand why there would be a fear there, but I
Speaker 1: really it can't be so bad that I would, Yeah, Sam,
Speaker 1: I would. It would find it hard to believe that
Speaker 1: you're that bad of a kisser that Jill's gonna kiss
Speaker 1: you one time after she already likes you from your
Speaker 1: first date and then she's just gonna go running for
Speaker 1: the hills, like, oh my god, I's terrible. I doubt
Speaker 1: that you're that bad of a kisser. I thought I
Speaker 1: wasn't that bad before, but clearly someone broke up with
Speaker 1: me better now it's and it's sometimes like it's just
Speaker 1: that two people's chemistry doesn't work well together, and maybe
Speaker 1: it was just you and your ex kissing with a
Speaker 1: different person different every time. I mean to think of
Speaker 1: all the cool stuff you've learned. Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: the classes I've been good and I really feel more
Speaker 1: comfortable doing it. I just want it to be you know, perfect,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean they say these first kids is
Speaker 1: always like that's the big thing, you know, Sam, I
Speaker 1: have an idea while you save the rest of your
Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy five dollars and we just go
Speaker 1: out on dates and then we can practice. That's a
Speaker 1: good idea, Jail, Sam, would you like to go out
Speaker 1: with Jill again on a second date. We will pay
Speaker 1: for it, of course, I mean, yeah, absolutely, And before
Speaker 1: your classes are done at the kissing school, I want
Speaker 1: you guys to go out soon. Okay, yeah, I can.
Speaker 1: I can do that. I mean I would rather, I
Speaker 1: would rather practice with her. Yeah, there you go, extra credit, Sam,
Speaker 1: So you'll go out with Jill again. Absolutely, I want you, Jill.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you want to be his kissing coach from
Speaker 1: this point on. Oh of course. All congratulations, And you guys,
Speaker 1: Jill you got your second date. We'll send you guys
Speaker 1: out again, alight. And if before you guys get more
Speaker 1: intimate and he suddenly disappears, he's like I was going
Speaker 1: to a sex school trying to figure out I would
Speaker 1: not recommend another date after that, okay, Jew in the morning,
Speaker 1: text in at seven eight, five nine two says that's
Speaker 1: so sweet. I almost cried. Really enjoyed the kissing classes.
Speaker 1: Cutie pies is what it says. Broken jewel in the morning,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about the second date update if you
Speaker 1: missed it. Jill went out what the dude named Scott
Speaker 1: once and after that date he kept being kind of
Speaker 1: elusive and postponing the second meetup. In fact, he rescheduled
Speaker 1: five different times, and Jill thought, of course she was
Speaker 1: being blown off and can figure out why because they
Speaker 1: had such a great time. And we got Scott on
Speaker 1: the phone and he revealed that the reason that he
Speaker 1: kept promising a date and then changing it is because
Speaker 1: he enrolled himself in a kissing class to improve his
Speaker 1: kissing skills. He said he had an X who recently
Speaker 1: said the reason she dumped him is becau he's a
Speaker 1: horrible kisser, so he's trying to fix that. I just
Speaker 1: have so many questions about these kissing schools. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't know they exist at all. Interesting. Jill thought the
Speaker 1: reason was endearing and cute, and of course wanted to
Speaker 1: go out with him again if he learns to be
Speaker 1: a better kisser. Yeah, I wonder how bad he really
Speaker 1: was Toy, Yes, exactly. I mean, just keep doing it, man,
Speaker 1: you'll get better. I think, well, I don't know. I've
Speaker 1: had a couple of boyfriends and I'm like, that's not
Speaker 1: ever going to improve. There's some people who never get
Speaker 1: better at it at all, so they're going to go
Speaker 1: out again. Remember, if you want a second date update,
Speaker 1: I have to do his email the show, and we
Speaker 1: will call the person who didn't call you back to