1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: One of my greatest lessons has been in one of 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,199 Speaker 1: the greatest pains I had, and that was a heartbreak. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Hip Hop icon Colin is an Academy Award, Emmy and 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: three time Grammy winning artist. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 3: What was the hardest part about learning to love yourself 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 3: and take care of yourself? 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes I can bring that little rashet into the present 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: and those feelings of being rejected and make this new 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: rejection greater than what it really is. 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: All break therapy. You're talking about the trauma you've been through. 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: These are the themes that hip hop's noticed. 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: For all I was doing was telling my truth. 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: How have you learned in the moment to deal with 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: that emotion and to learn how to trust. 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: You understand what energy you want in your. 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Life and who deserves to be in your life. 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: I usually wouldn't seize the moment. 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: The thought came to me like I'm gonna call John 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: Legend and I tell them, hey, man, I'm part of 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: this movie Selma. They don't want a song from us, 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: so we're submitting it, but will you do the song? 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: And he said. 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 4: The number one health and wellness podcast Jay Only, I'm 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 4: so excited to finally share the live interviews from my 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: very first podcast tour, presented by Chase Sapphire Reserve. 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: This one was recorded live at the legendary Chicago Theater 27 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: with the One and Only Common Special thanks to MSG 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: Entertainment and the Chicago Theater. 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: Chicago, Chicago, Peas. I love this place, Chicago. 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: I am so excited to be here tonight at the 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: Chicago Theater in Chicago with mister Chicago Only comment. 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you comment. 33 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: I want to start off just saying how grateful I 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: am to you for your artistry. I grew up listening 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: to you in London. You're music, your words, your energy 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: has made it all the way over to the fourteen 37 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: year old me who is dreaming of being a rapper. 38 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: And then I listened to you and realized I wasn't 40 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: good enough. And we've spoken before, we never met until tonight. 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: And your voice has such a power. It carries so 43 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: much energy. It carries so much that the frequency you operate, 44 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 3: it comes through your voice so powerfully. And I want 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: to start off by asking you you know today obviously 46 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 3: we know you as the Emmy Award winner, the Grammy 47 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 3: Award winner, the Oscar Award winner. Yeah, give it up right, 48 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: it's like there's not many people. There's not many people, 49 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: But I want to know who common was before the Emmy, 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: the Grammy, the Oscar, because that's what we've been talking 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: about tonight, is when you're at the start of your journey, 52 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: who were you at the start of your journey? 53 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: Well, first, thank you Jay, and thank you all, and 54 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: I'll just thank God for this moment and who I 55 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: was before I was out as an artist. I was 56 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: a young black boy from the South Side of Chicago 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: who had a tremendous, incredible mother and a great stepfather 58 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: and a beautiful community that taught me everything from God 59 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: to survival, to intelligence, to basketball, to music, to life 60 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: and to love. And that gave me a foundation of 61 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: someone who wanted to actually be something in the world. 62 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know what I wanted to be all the way, 63 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: but I knew I wanted to give something to the world. 64 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: And that's who I was before I actually got to 65 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: be out there as an artist. Some of my dreams 66 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: was basketball, to be a basketball player. But I can't hoop, y'all, 67 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: just so you know, not as good as I used 68 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: to do. But I can hoop, but uh yeah, so 69 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, I just wanted to be something. It was something, though, Jada. 70 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: One thing that got me when I was really a 71 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: young kid was I used to love this English class 72 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: because our English teacher would teach us a lot about 73 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: like black history and like all these great writers from 74 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: James Baldwin and doctor May Angelo and Nikki Giovanni and 75 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: Richard Wright. So one day she taught us the story 76 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: about this young man named Emmitt Till. And Emmit Til 77 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: was from Chicago and in the fifties, I believe it 78 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: was nineteen fifty five. He went to visit his family 79 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: down in Mississippi and went to the corner store with 80 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: his cousins and was accused of whistling. 81 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: At a white woman. 82 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: And her husband eventually found where Emmit Til lived when 83 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: he was staying with his aunt for the summer, and 84 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: they grabbed him out of the house and they ended 85 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: up beating him to death and threw him in the river. 86 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: The reason why I bring the story up is his 87 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: mother chose to show have an open casket funeral, and 88 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: his head was bigger than I can describe. And the 89 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,119 Speaker 1: way they had beat him for whistling that a white woman. 90 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: What he was accused of it always hit me in 91 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: a place where I felt almost like guilty. I felt pain. 92 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: I felt like I old imitate Till and that was 93 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: really a real driving force in my life. Though I 94 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: never met Matil in my life, his spirit was like 95 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: something that I felt like I had to live for 96 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: and for those people who had been like him, who 97 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: had lost their lives for no reason, but specifically immate Till. 98 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: Now. 99 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: That was one of the driving forces for me as 100 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: a kid, even though I didn't know what I wanted 101 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: to be. And I just want to say that that 102 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: meant a lot to me. 103 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 5: It's incredible. 104 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely go for it. It's incredible to me 105 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: how people we've never met and people we've never seen, 106 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: how their stories can transform our lives. For me, when 107 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 3: I was growing up, I was reading everything from David 108 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 3: Beckham and Dwayne the Rock Johnson when he was a wrestler, 109 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: all the way through to Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. 110 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: And I was really lucky that my dad would give 111 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: me biographies and autobiographies of these people. And it was 112 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 3: because of him handing them to me that I got 113 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: so inspired by people who'd lived these service based lives. Yes, 114 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 3: but I wanted to ask you when you read that story, 115 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 3: when you heard about that story, how did you not 116 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: get bitter or negative but became hopeful about wanting to 117 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: represent and live a good life. Because hearing about those 118 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: kind of pains and struggles can also make you act different, 119 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: but for you, it pushed you to want to do 120 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: something positive with your life. 121 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: The killing of Immittil was really the catalyst many believe 122 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: for the civil rights movement, and how that affected me 123 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: was man, I felt like this beautiful young man didn't 124 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: have like that evil energy to him, that dark energy 125 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: to him, and I felt that I wanted to be 126 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: a reflection of that. I strived to approach life in 127 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: ways where when I would go through something, I would 128 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: figure way out by figuring out the positive the lesson 129 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: in it. And I didn't have that type of like 130 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: information as a kid, or like I didn't have it 131 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: like really developed. But I knew that as a kid 132 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: that I didn't want to be putting negative energy out 133 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: there even when I was dealing with difficult moments. That 134 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: didn't mean I didn't feel those difficult moments or I 135 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: didn't have the but I couldn't stay there and I 136 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: knew when I saw what happened with Mattil. Yes, of 137 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: course I did feel some anger, like why did that 138 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: happen to him? But I knew I had to make 139 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: it into a positive and I wanted my life to 140 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: feel positive and I wanted others'. 141 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: Lives to feel positive. 142 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: So that's what I used it for, and eventually in 143 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: certain aspects of my life, I've been able to translate that, 144 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, And that's what part of the practice is 145 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: that of what we do. Like, I'm so grateful that 146 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: I know you can rhyme too. I know you can rhyme. 147 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: I know you can rhyme. But I'm so grateful in 148 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: how you are using your words and your gifts and 149 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: your spirit and your heart. It's amazing how the things 150 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: that we do to build to get to you would 151 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: never know that your love for writing would like lead 152 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: you to this place. And I would never know that, 153 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: like the things that I experienced, whether it was I 154 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: Matil or positive. Note some people don't notice. I was 155 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: a ball boy for the Chicago Bulls, right, Yeah, so 156 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: I was there when Michael Jordans first came into the league. 157 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: In fact, I used to have some Jordan's I used 158 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: to get jim shoes or sneakers as people say. Were 159 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: in Chicago, we say jim shoes. So I used to 160 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: get jim shoes from a lot of players. And at 161 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: the time, I would give them to my teachers. I 162 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: would sell them. But I had some Jordans that I 163 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: gave to my father that he signed. My father would 164 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: God bless us, so he would wear them to my 165 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: concerts and I'd be like that, do not wear. 166 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: These shoes, man, these shoes worth too much. That being said, 167 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: I didn't know. 168 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing how as you said sometimes, well, 169 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: I did get to. 170 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: Be around Michael Jordan. I didn't know him well, but 171 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: I got to see that. 172 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: It's amazing how witnessing that greatness affected me in a 173 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: positive way too. 174 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: So it was some. 175 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: Heavy things that affected me and some beautiful things that 176 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: affected me. 177 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's your power that you were able to 178 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: notice both, yes, and convert them and transfer them into 179 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 3: building a positive life. And we were talking about dreams earlier, 180 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: and I know a lot of this audience got dreams, right, 181 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: This audience has dreams, and often I find, yeah, give 182 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: it off for your dreams. You gotta, I know, there's dreams. 183 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: I know, there's dreams, and sometimes it can feel like, 184 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: you know, you're holding that dream back, you're not living 185 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: it fully, you're hiding it. 186 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 5: You're kind of embarrassed about it. 187 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: Maybe you're guilty about it, maybe you're maybe you don't 188 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: believe in it yourself. You said one of your early 189 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: dreams you were telling me backstage and even now you're mentioning, 190 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: was actually to. 191 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 5: Be a basketball player. 192 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: How serious were you about that dream compared to what 193 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: then became music but then became acting, Like, how serious 194 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: was that dream? 195 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: Now? That dream was very serious. 196 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean I was dedicating my time and energy a 197 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: lot of it to just playing bar like that. I 198 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: was one of the most important things to me in 199 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: my dream was the Magic Johnson's, the Isaiah thomas Is, 200 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan's, all these great players that I actually 201 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: got to be. Like I said, in the presence of 202 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: it was like it made it even that much more 203 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: attainable to me. I worked on it. I worked on it, 204 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: and I got pretty good. I mean I can't you know, 205 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: we all when you were a hooper or whatever, you 206 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: feel like, oh I'm cold. 207 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: I got gain. 208 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: But in all reality, I probably wasn't pro material, but 209 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: it's beautiful how divine and how great God orchestrates things 210 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: for you to be where you should be when you're 211 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: trusting that. I got injured in my sophomore year and 212 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: I was out for like months. In those months of 213 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: me not being able to play ball led me to 214 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: wanting to write more. Like I was already writing, but 215 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, I can't hoop right now, so 216 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm right And when I came back to the team, 217 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't getting any playing time, so I was like, well, 218 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go be a rapper. 219 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: Then, man. And it's just, you know, it kind of 220 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: guided me to where I should be. 221 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: So my first dream was to hoop, and I kind 222 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: of got to live out that dream in a movie 223 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: called Just Right, where I played the NBA player. You know, 224 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this is amazing because it was 225 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: a fulfillment of a dream as an actor. It was 226 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: my first leading role, but it also was like, I'm 227 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: actually getting to play like I'm an NBA player. I 228 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: was playing against Dwayne Wade and Dwight Howard at the time, 229 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: and it was it was an amazing experience and it's 230 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: something how we talked about this, how you know you 231 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: have a dream and that dream can evolve and it 232 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: could become you find a new dream, and that dream 233 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: can evolve. And I think, you know, I'm really keen 234 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: on dreams because and I really try to try to 235 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: like inspire young people to have a dream and even 236 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: whatever age we are, but really I want young people 237 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: to get that early because that was one of the 238 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: most important things for me growing up. That led me 239 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: to say, Hey, I'm not going to go too far 240 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: over to this craziness. Like we in Chicago. You're gonna 241 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: get into some craziness, right you go, you go be 242 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: around it, gonna you're gonna experience something. 243 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: You might participate in it. 244 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: But because I had a dream, I would only participate, 245 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: but so much I had to bound you. 246 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: I had to bound you. And that truly was. 247 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: My guiding light, Like you know what, I want to 248 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: be something, I want to do something. And even as 249 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: those things begin to evolve, it still became a boundary 250 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: for me to be like, all right, y'all doing too much. 251 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: I can't do that over there. 252 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: The thing I love about that and I want us 253 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: to take away from this is sometimes your first dream 254 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 3: doesn't work out. And I think for a lot of us, 255 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: when our first dream doesn't work out, we think it's 256 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: dream over, like game over, It's that's it now, we 257 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: can't live any part of our dream. And you know, 258 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: I was saying, my first dream, real dream, was to 259 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 3: become a monk. That's what I thought I was going 260 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: to do for the rest of my life. And I 261 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: did it for three years, and when it ended, I 262 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: felt like I'd failed, Like I felt like it was over, 263 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: and I felt, how am I ever gonna spread what 264 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: I've learned? And how am I ever going to live 265 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: a life that's dedicated to spiritually? Like will that ever 266 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: happen again? And it's incredible the plans you've been saying 267 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: that God has for you. And I was sharing this 268 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: earlier with a couple of people. I was saying that 269 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: God's imagination is far better than my imagination. 270 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 5: Yes, right, But. 271 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: It's a scripture in the Bible that says his thoughts 272 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: are greater than your thoughts. You know, That's that's very 273 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: important for us to understand because sometimes in that dream, 274 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: you like, I want it, I want it, and I 275 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: want to got this. I mean, because I have that 276 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: I still have it to this day. 277 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: I want this role. I want this role, and it 278 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: doesn't happen. 279 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: And now I've grown to understand that God's dreams and 280 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: his thoughts are greater than my thoughts. So, for whatever 281 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: reason it is, I'm not supposed to be in that 282 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: particular film. I'm not supposed to be with that particular relationship. 283 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to have that particular job. I'm not 284 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: supposed to have a house that I really knew I wanted. 285 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: It's hard to grab on to it at times. But 286 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: the more and more you know, we practice it and 287 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: speak it and know it and trust in our heavenly 288 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: Father and the creator of the heavens and earth and 289 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: know that that plan is a master plan and all 290 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: we have to do is listen and be in tuned 291 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: and get the lessons from it too. Life becomes more beautiful. 292 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: And I can look at those moments where I haven't 293 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: gotten a role, and that doesn't mean that I don't 294 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: feel like, damn man, I really wanted to be working 295 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: and I was excited about the script I wanted. I'm 296 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: not going to fake and act like I didn't. But 297 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: I can say, Okay, Creator, I know you got something 298 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: greater for me, something out there, and I'm going to 299 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: do whatever I need to do to be present and 300 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: also be obedient and surrender to what the higher plan is. 301 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 302 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw something the other day that really resonated 303 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: with me. My friend sent it to me and it 304 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: said something like, when things don't go your way, it's 305 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: God in the universe saying not now, not this, I 306 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: got something better. Yes, right, And it's that understanding of 307 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: just being able to have that trust in the moment. 308 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: I want to ask you that, how have you learned 309 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: to build that trust in the moment? Like you said, 310 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: we're both human, yes, we're not perfect. You feel that pain. 311 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: I feel that I want to achieve things. I'm trying 312 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: to build things. I'm trying to create things, and I'm 313 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: the same. I feel pain. I'm not going to sit 314 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 3: here and lie and say, oh, I just trust everything 315 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 3: and you know I'm beyond that. No, that's not true. 316 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 3: Like I feel upset. You're like, oh, gosh, I worked 317 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: so hard for this, putting so much effort, we did everything. 318 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 5: What happened. 319 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: When you've done it enough times, you get a better relationship. 320 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 3: But how have you learned in the moment to deal 321 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 3: with that emotion and to learn how to trust. 322 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 1: It's been the process, and as I said, like, you know, 323 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: it's a practice. I was thinking earlier today about how 324 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: we always talk about bad habits, but I started thinking 325 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: about good habits. 326 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: For me. 327 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: One of my good habits has been to use the 328 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: scriptures that I read and stay consistent and diligent in 329 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: my prayers and my meditations, staying consistent with the way 330 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: I love myself and treat myself, and that kind of 331 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: helps me build the armor and the strength to be 332 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: like when I have some of them most difficult pains. 333 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: One of my greatest lessons and times that I've grown 334 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: as a human being has been in one of the 335 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 1: greatest pains I had, and that was a breakup, a 336 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: heartbreak where I was like broken and I hadn't been 337 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: broken like that. I had lost people in my life, 338 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: and that was definitely devastating, but it was something about 339 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: a heartbreak where the person was obviously you hear they 340 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: still alive. This was the first love that I had 341 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: as an adult, and I knew God it ordained it, 342 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: but at a certain point it became not healthy and 343 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: when we were partying it was hard. 344 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: It was really hard. 345 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like I made the decision I got 346 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: broke up. 347 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: With, you know, and it was like who, this is hard. 348 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: And at times I wasn't eating like consistently. I was 349 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: sitting in this hotel room for weeks, just trying to 350 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: find a peace, calling my aunt, talking to different people 351 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: about it. 352 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: It was weighing on me. 353 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: And I remember just starting to read certain books like 354 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: The Mastery of Love and Return to Love and these. 355 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: A lot of love books, y'all. 356 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: But each time and each thing I read, I would 357 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: get something out of it. Not even I wouldn't even 358 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: have to read the whole book, but I would get 359 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: something out of it. And I started thinking and practicing 360 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: some of the things that I was reading as much 361 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: as I was still trying to hold on to and 362 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: be like HEO, god, I know you said this is 363 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: the relationship. I thought this was the relationship. Well, I 364 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: learned some lessons in that. One of the lessons was 365 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: that I was willing to dim my light for others, 366 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: and in that relationship, I was dimming my light. It 367 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: wasn't not that person's fault. I take responsibility for that, 368 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: and I was dimming my light. But I was doing 369 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: that not only in that relationship. I would do it 370 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: when I would get around other artists that were more 371 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: known than me, people that were like more celebrated than me. 372 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: I would just dim my light for whatever somebody might 373 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: not even it might not be about popularity, money or anything. 374 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: I would dim my light if someone else just had 375 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: something that I felt was greater than me. Well, I 376 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: started to learn to love myself more and that became 377 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: a practice, and it became saying beautiful things to myself 378 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: and repeating those scriptures and like starting to do things 379 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: for myself that like fed into who I am and 380 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: the things that I love and jay about being present. 381 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: That really taught me to be present, because at a 382 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 1: certain point I had to realize, yeah, that was something 383 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: that a relationship that was in divine order for me, 384 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: and we had gotten the lessons out of that relationship 385 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: and I got the pain that would that would send 386 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: me to a whole new height and would turn me 387 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: into a light that I never knew I had. And 388 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: that's when it was done at that point. But it's 389 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: hard sometimes to understand that it's done. But once you 390 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: realize that God ordained the relationship, and he also ordained 391 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: the progress from it and the moving forward from it. 392 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: Then I was able to move forward and be more 393 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: present in my life and take that understanding of man, 394 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: I can believe in myself. I grew up in an 395 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: environment when my mother is very strong and like wise woman. 396 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: Almost everyone I was around. 397 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: You couldn't really be too confident or my mother will 398 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: let you know. You think you cocky, or you think 399 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: you doing this, you think you doing this. But you 400 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: got to find a balance in that. And I didn't 401 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: have the balance. I would always dim my life. And 402 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: eventually I was like, I have to declare and claim 403 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: and know within myself and speak towards my great towards 404 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: the things that I envision for myself and the things 405 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 1: that I know I am. I have to say it, 406 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: I have to believe it, and I have to not 407 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: be afraid to wear my greatness in front of anyone. 408 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to learn that. 409 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: As I was listening to you, I was thinking about 410 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: something that I always try and remind myself, especially when 411 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: it comes to people going through breakups, is that you 412 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 3: either grow together or you grow apart, but both are growing. Yes, right, 413 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 3: we think if we grow together, we're growing, but you 414 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 3: also say. 415 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 5: You grow apart. Yes, but there's still growth. 416 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: Still growth in that journey, and you often miss that 417 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: when you feel like, oh, and if we stayed together 418 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 3: then it worked, then it was good for me. But 419 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 3: if it ended, it wasn't good for me. And I 420 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: wanted to ask you about you know, these themes. I 421 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: just I don't want to take it for granted. The 422 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: themes you're talking about. You're talking about heartbreak. You're known 423 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: to talk about therapy, You're talking about the trauma you've 424 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 3: been through. You know, we have your beautiful book here 425 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 3: and then we rise a guide to loving and taking 426 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: care of self. These are not themes that you righte 427 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: give it up. Yeah, these are not themes. These are 428 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: not themes that hip hop's known for. To have you 429 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: sitting here and you talking about this balance of your 430 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 3: mom and being too cocky, it's like that like hip 431 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: hop has that bravado that you know, that feeling of 432 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: it's not. 433 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 5: Really about humility. 434 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: It's more about ego and being present than here you 435 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 3: are with all these awards and all this achievement. But 436 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: then you're talking about trauma and therapy and heartbreak. That 437 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: can't have been easy to start talking about it on 438 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: day one in that space. 439 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: I can't imagine it wasn't, but I will say I 440 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: did start with a great advantage, and my advantage was. 441 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 3: But first, here's a quick word from the brands that 442 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: support the show. All right, thank you to us, and 443 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 3: says now, let's dive back in. 444 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: I had a group of friends that allowed me to 445 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: be me and allow me to be unique, allow me 446 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: to be different, and they embraced me. 447 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: They would talk, you know, they gonna talk. 448 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: They junk about me and like joke on my crochet 449 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: pants or crochet hats and you know whatever, like obscure 450 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: things I was into. But it still was love and 451 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: it still was like we we are supporting you. And 452 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: that that kind of helped me to go out in 453 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: the world and not be as afraid to be myself. 454 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: So the actual like thought of being myself wasn't as 455 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: difficult as it was seen. 456 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: What was the question? 457 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, that's honest. 458 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: The way this jun is, this Junie is good. 459 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: I do want to know what the question My mind 460 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: went to talking about that, but for a second I 461 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: wanted to know because I also had another thought about 462 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: when you asked a question. But this Junie, I want 463 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: to say, Man, I really just yo this Junie. Man, 464 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: I'm digging this bro for real. Cheerzuz CHEUZI cheers cheers. 465 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: My question was, how does someone who's in hip hop, 466 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 3: which is known for being braggadocious, that's what it is 467 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: and egoistic, have the comfortability. 468 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that's what. That's So. 469 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: I was on my third album and I was doing 470 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: a show and after the show, this guy came up 471 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: to me and he was like, comment, your music. 472 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 2: This song you did. 473 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: It was called Retrospect for Life and it was about 474 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: abortion and I was telling my own experience and story. 475 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: It started off as a poem and it eventually was 476 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: a song and he and he said, this song you did, 477 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: Retrospect for Life, made me and my wife decide to 478 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: have our child. And I was and I'm not saying that, 479 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying that, but because that was a moment where 480 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: it was like, what like this music and me telling 481 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: my story can affect you in that way? Like all 482 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: I was doing was telling my truth and I was 483 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: doing it unapologetic, and I just had to do it 484 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: for my heart because hip hop was the way I 485 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: was expressing myself in the best way that I could 486 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: and in the freest way that I could, in the 487 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: most honest way, and sincere so for this gentleman to. 488 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: Tell me that. 489 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: His child is alive because of this song, it made 490 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: me know that I had a higher purpose with the 491 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: music and with what I was doing, and that allowed 492 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: me as a hip hop artist, as a black man, 493 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: because ultimately, when we saying like, yo, you're coming from 494 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: hip hop? Hip hop has been the like the garden 495 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: for black and Latino, black and brown people to express ourselves. 496 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: And then it brought everyone into the garden, which is 497 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing, but it was a garden that started 498 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: with our expression. So when we're saying like, coming from 499 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: hip hop, expressing yourself in this way, it's really saying, 500 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: being a black kid expressing yourself in this way, how. 501 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: Did you do that? 502 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: I felt so good that I knew that I could 503 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: move my people through the music that I was like, 504 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: I have to keep expressing myself in this way. And 505 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: it was those songs, like love songs that ended up 506 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: being things that people responded to from me. People wanted 507 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: to hit them bars and all that, but I had 508 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: a gentleman come to me earlier before a show and 509 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: be like, hey, coming, would you be okay if in 510 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: the middle of your song the Light, which is about 511 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: a woman and woman being the light, in the middle 512 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: of your song, would you stop so I could propose 513 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: to my girlfriend? 514 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: And I said yes, of course. 515 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: And you know, to have to note that I'm writing 516 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: songs about from my heart and spirit and my experiences 517 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: and they become those things for people. Led me to 518 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: understand that I have to be as vulnerable as goofy, 519 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: as like free, reflective, as like just open, like non perfect. 520 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: I don't know a better word that I can say. 521 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: Your word Smith, Uh, but you know I got to 522 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: be that anything else is misguiding people, or it's not 523 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: being true to who I am as an artist, is 524 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: not being true to my purpose, and I'm not doing 525 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: my duty to the most high guy. 526 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: Jay. 527 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: If it's anything that I can tell you that that 528 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: drives me is every day And I know you talked 529 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: about every day and I want to put in a 530 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: practice some of those things you said we should do 531 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: every day. 532 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: I'm so into that. The exposure and all that. I 533 00:28:59,320 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: thank you for that. 534 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: One of the things that gets me is I want 535 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: to please the most high. I want to stay in 536 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: my purpose and please the most high. 537 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's there's nothing better than that. 538 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: There's there's no greater accountability, there's no greater source of inspiration, 539 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: there's no greater channel, and there isn't apart from that. 540 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: And as I'm listening to you, one of the things 541 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 3: that really resonated with me was what you said about 542 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: the friends. Because to have friends that you know, in 543 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: England we call it banter, right, people who can banter 544 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: with someone who can like poke fun at you, but 545 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: then at the same time has your back and having 546 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: someone that if you can do that with them, that 547 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: means you're closer to them. So when we first moved 548 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: to the States or maybe more LA, when me and 549 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 3: my wife would banter with each other because she's from Britain, 550 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: to everyone just thinks like we're going to break up 551 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: or something because we can. 552 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 5: Like really lay each other. 553 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: But but that's part of our love language because the 554 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: more I can that would do, the deeper we know 555 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: each other. Yes, because as we grow up, you lose 556 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 3: some friends that you grew up with. Maybe people move cities, 557 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: they get married to someone else, they move into a 558 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: different part of the world. Maybe you've been here your 559 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 3: whole life, you had the same friends, but you kind 560 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: of outgrown them now right, How do you, as an 561 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: adult continue to build new friendships that look like your 562 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 3: future and not like your past. 563 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: That's beautiful, you said, People was like, oh, b what 564 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: do you gonna say about that? Man? 565 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: You know, at a certain point, like once I started 566 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: to like, okay, understand who I am. And I'm still learning, 567 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, like we hopefully we always will learn to 568 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: we leave this planet on the physical level. So I'm 569 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: still learning, but I do know a lot of things 570 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: about me, and I know myself, and I think one 571 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: of the things that has helped me to understand about 572 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: attracting new friends and who lungs in this atmosphere is 573 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: people's energy. Being discerning about people's intentions, making sure that 574 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: any friendships, relationships, even moments, you want to be able 575 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: to give and you want to be able to receive too. 576 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: You start by giving. You know, most of the time, 577 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: if I see somebody, I'm gonna greet them, how you doing, 578 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: and hopefully they'll agree back boom love, And it's like 579 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: it might just be that moment, or it may be 580 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: more than that, but the point is you understand what 581 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: energy you want in your life and who. 582 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: Deserves to be in your life. 583 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: And you also have to be accountable for being a 584 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: good friend, partner, homie in their lives. 585 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: And like one of my. 586 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: Closest friends is backstage with me, even though we talk 587 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: about tell the same stories over and over again, like 588 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'd be like, damn, we used to, but 589 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: we still have. We still tell them same jokes about 590 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: each other. But we also share scriptures. We also share motivation. 591 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: He'll send me things that motivate. We also talk about 592 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: life and just being in pain going through these things. 593 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: And for me, that's a friendship that evolves. Some people, 594 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: when you said, you said a very good point. Sometimes 595 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: you outgrow other people, but a great, beautiful friendship and 596 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: relationship you all grow as individuals and even if you 597 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: ain't not at the same place at the same time always, 598 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: you might get there. And I think for me, just 599 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: understanding when I'm around people like how do I feel 600 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: around this person and how do this person make me feel? 601 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: And hopefully I'm making them feel great, then that's the 602 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: type of energy I want to be around. 603 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: And is this something that's going to be consistent. 604 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: We're doing this quick movie together and we can hang 605 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: out at this time, but this is not going to 606 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: go further than that as a Friendhi. 607 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: That happens sometimes, but that's okay. 608 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: That person is great for your life at that moment, 609 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: and you all can give each other equal yoke. But 610 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: ultimately it's about to me just being around energy that 611 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: you know is there to better you. Iron sharpens iron 612 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: and you bring that into your life. 613 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 5: Well said, Well said. 614 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 3: I feel like when I'm vibrating in my highest energy, 615 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: it's really clear whether someone wants to match it or not. Yeah, 616 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 3: Whereas if I walk into a space and I go 617 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: at my lowest frequency, I don't actually know where someone stands. 618 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 3: So it's almost like being your highest vibration or frequency 619 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: actually allows you to see what energy someone's are and 620 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: whether they're willing to match and you're going to match them. 621 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: Is that new friends? 622 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Because I don't have a whole lot of new friends 623 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: to be honest, you know, but I do have new 624 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: people in my life that I work with that I 625 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: love that I'll be there for. But I'm like, you know, friends, 626 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: not just people you like I'm cool with them, Yeah, 627 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: all our friends. How do you decide who you let 628 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: into your life, especially with you being having such a big, 629 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: widespread platform and so many people probably wanting to be 630 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: in that space, how do you make decisions on who. 631 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 3: I'm pretty lucky, I think because my lane is so clear. 632 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 3: The only people who want to get closer people who 633 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 3: want to be spiritual, and so it kind of makes 634 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: it easy because they know that I'm not really interested 635 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: in other stuff. So it's kind of like the people 636 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: that do want to get close. There are all people 637 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: that want to evolve, that want to grow, you know. 638 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 3: It's people like yourselves who want to become more healed, 639 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 3: which I love because my lane is so clear. And 640 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 3: that's what I mean by when we're vibrating at a 641 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 3: frequency that I'm not always at a high frequency, but 642 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: if our frequency is clear, yes, then it's clear to 643 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: others whether we're going to be a good time or not. 644 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 3: So to some people, I'm the most boring person on 645 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 3: the planet because they know I'm not into the three 646 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 3: things that they love. 647 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 5: But that's why I think it's so good to. 648 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 3: Be clear about who we are and broadcast that I 649 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: don't mean necessarily publicly. I mean, when you walk into 650 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: a room, whatever word you say, the question you first ask, 651 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: the way you answer a question can completely shift the 652 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 3: direction of a conversation. Like when I walk into a room, 653 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: I want to get into one deep conversation with someone 654 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 3: in the corner. I'm not the person who's like milling 655 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 3: around trying to say hello to everyone. There's nothing wrong 656 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 3: with that. 657 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: That's just not me. 658 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 3: And so I'd much rather walk away from an event 659 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: having had a deep, powerful, profound conversation and made one 660 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 3: new friend then feel like I spoke to thirty people 661 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 3: about small talk. And again, there's nothing wrong with that, 662 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 3: it's just who I am. 663 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: So I love some of the things you just said 664 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: because I love great conversations. I feel like that's one 665 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: of the ways I learned so much about myself is 666 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: through conversation with people who who just have some emotional 667 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: insight intelligence. 668 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite things. 669 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: Man, No matter where I am, and you know, my 670 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: friends be like, boy, you talk a lot, you know, 671 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: But I do love those conversations. And another thing you 672 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: mentioned it that I have to say has been one 673 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: of the most powerful aspects about helping me in my 674 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: life is to be clear, like taking care of myself 675 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to like the foods I eat, like having, 676 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: like I said, my own meditation and prayer. 677 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 5: What does that look like. 678 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 3: We'll cuts through some of those habits, because I feel 679 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 3: like this group loves learning about habits and practices and 680 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 3: tools and tactics. What are some of yours that you commit. 681 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: To wake up in the morning, thanking God for the day, 682 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: thanking God just for the day, for the breath of life. 683 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: And as Jay said, this is a spiritual thing. I'm 684 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: not like when I talk about God, I'm talking about 685 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: the creative heavens and Earth that exists in all woman, man, 686 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: that exists in all people on the planet. It's not 687 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: a religious thing. This is about the spirit that created 688 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: all of us and that exists in all of us. 689 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: So just communing with God is the first thing. And 690 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: then I get into it's certain scriptures that I read 691 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: that reinforce who I am and my relationship with the Creator. 692 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: And then I get into my prayer, and then I'll 693 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: get into my meditation. People ask me like, do you 694 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: do this type of meditation. It's type My meditation is 695 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: the south side of meditation. 696 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: I just came up with. 697 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: I pulled from everything that I had experienced and was like, 698 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: this works for me. It's not gonna be this twenty 699 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: minute meditation. Might be a minute or two, but I'm 700 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,959 Speaker 1: gonna get it in and it works and it works 701 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: for me. But seriously, it's that meditation. And then I 702 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: go to this other book that I have that has 703 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: these mantras and scriptures to them. At that point, you know, 704 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: like I'm prepared for the day and going into that 705 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: day knowing that, man, this is going to. 706 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 2: Be a beautiful day. 707 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: Because we all sometimes I wake up like something feel 708 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: funny as soon as I wake up, But me getting 709 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: into gratitude and just saying thank you for the day 710 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: and thank you for the breath of life starts to 711 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: shift that funny feeling. And then like me starting to 712 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: starting to say the things that I know I'm creating 713 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: for and the purpose that I'm here for, it starts 714 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: to shift and my day becomes greater just from there, 715 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: and even if some incidents happen, my perspective on the 716 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: day is not down because I've done those things. Now 717 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: the diet and food side, I get into my I 718 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: got my supplements that I take and you know, take 719 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: those in the morning and then I try to get 720 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: a work out in. Like I said, sometimes you don't 721 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: have an hour to do a workout and get whatever time. 722 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 2: And it's just movement. What I noticed is when I 723 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 2: move around, whether it's a walk, I used to think 724 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 2: I was like, man, those old people be walking, man. 725 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: But now I'm taking walks. 726 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm walking in London, walking into the parks, and I'm like, 727 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: am I that age said, I'm walking? But but a 728 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: walk is a beautiful thing. And I realized just the 729 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: movement of the body is good for the mind and 730 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: the soul. So this is all part of my like 731 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: wholeness when I what I talk about in the book 732 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: and then we rise. This is that wholeness of like. 733 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 1: Because I had certain aspects, like I was always pretty 734 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: much a spiritual guy like this and learning my spirituality, 735 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: you know, reading from the Bible at one point, reading 736 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: into the Koran and reading different things to just know 737 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: God for myself. But then I needed other aspects and 738 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: I started to figure out that the diet made me 739 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: see clear. Now only did I see clear, like I 740 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: was rapping clear, Like my voice sounded clear, like for real, 741 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: like for not having certain foods in my body and 742 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: taking care and my energy. I was waking up with 743 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: energy instead. Like so I felt the difference. And that 744 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: was all the research I needed to do. I didn't 745 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: need to read nothing to note that, like, oh, I 746 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: feel better doing these things. So all those things are 747 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: things that I put into practice, and you know, I 748 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: pick up new things, like just listening to you, I'm like, wait, 749 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start figuring out this exposure bless you. I'm 750 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure out this exposure thing, like and see 751 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: what I can do because I'm always looking to learn 752 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: and grow. 753 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that talking about exposure therapy. I wanted 754 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 3: this event to be special and this is gonna be 755 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 3: a surprise for everyone. I wanted to give someone in 756 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 3: the room. We've been talking about dreams, we've been talking 757 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 3: about rising above judgment. We've been talking about taking your opportunity. 758 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to check there's no pressure, but I wanted 759 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 3: to check if there was a poet, a rapper, a 760 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 3: spoken word artist in the audience that wanted sixty seconds 761 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 3: to share with the audience and with common their skills. 762 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 3: I want to give you a moment, and I don't 763 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 3: want you to steal a moment from someone else. So 764 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 3: this isn't messing around, it's it's someone who truly has 765 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 3: I see the yellow shirt. I see one up there. 766 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 3: I love that hustle, the hustle, I love it. 767 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 5: What's his name? Oh you don't know? 768 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, that's amazing, that's great. You know, I 769 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 3: really feel like there's moments like this. We got you 770 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 3: in the seat to give someone a moment, to give 771 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 3: someone an opportunity, to put someone out there, to put 772 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 3: someone on. I chose the hardest person to get downstairs. 773 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 3: Now he's last trying to find his way while we're 774 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 3: waiting for him. I want to want, oh, here we go. 775 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 3: I'm true. 776 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 5: I want to say hello before. 777 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 2: Its brother alsome. That's blessome, bless you, thank you, glad, 778 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 2: thank you. 779 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 5: All right, So your name is Daniel, Daniel, Where are 780 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 5: you from? 781 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 6: I'm from Chicago. 782 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 5: From here, you're rappers, smoking word eyes, poet. 783 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 6: I'm a poet. 784 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 7: In all honesty, I've taken kind of a back seat 785 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 7: from the spotlight. I don't have any socials. I go 786 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 7: and perform at open mics occasionally. But yeah, my heart 787 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 7: is pumping. 788 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 2: I love it. 789 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: Well, this is this is what we wanted to do 790 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 3: tonight because you running down and we saw you hustles. 791 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 3: You take a breath just to catch your breath, but 792 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 3: that was the point of tonight. I want to make 793 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 3: it known that you can do it. It's not a 794 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 3: you know, I think we often feel like we have 795 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 3: to wait for our moment, We've got to work for it. 796 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 3: But we want to give it to people right here. 797 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 3: So I want to give you sixty seconds to share 798 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 3: with us the words, the work, whatever you want to 799 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 3: read to us, come and will give us a zero 800 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 3: out of ten rate. 801 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 5: Now you ready? 802 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it, bro, You got it, Bro, you 803 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 2: got it. You got it. 804 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 7: Okay, So I'm gonna give you something that's relatively new, 805 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 7: and it's about the lady that pushed me to come 806 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 7: up here. 807 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 6: She's up there a real quick because I don't want 808 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 6: to waste any of your time. 809 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 5: You're not wasting anyone's telling me, God, I'm nervous. 810 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 6: Why am I up here? 811 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 2: Yes? 812 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, let's called my new favorite color. 813 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 3: Before we dive into the next moment, let's hear from 814 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 3: our sponsors. Thanks for taking a moment for that. Now 815 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 3: back to the discussion. 816 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 6: If I asked any of you, what's your favorite color, 817 00:43:59,080 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 6: it will come without a say. 818 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 2: Guess. 819 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 7: You might even attribute some colors to different moods. Green 820 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 7: might be the envy, and a mean girl whose burn 821 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 7: book would burn looks through sky blue retinas like our 822 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 7: heavenly ceiling, relling with the beauty of God's creations. But 823 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 7: not a single star burns brighter than the patren my 824 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 7: eyes behold. After all, they say that's where her beauty lies. 825 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 7: So my answer is red. That's my favorite color. It's 826 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 7: something about the way it massages her cheeks before they 827 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 7: form that rose that reminds me of Aretha's declaration, a 828 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 7: dedication to the strongest flower in concrete jungles never meant 829 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 7: to grow, but defying all odds God's peculiar creation, sending 830 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 7: sensations where you hear, see, and touch vibrations. I love 831 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 7: to make up bless just to see a smile from 832 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 7: those red lips. I'd re educate the inner child to 833 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 7: me that was deceived to believe the synesthesia couldn't be achieved. 834 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 7: But who knew the color red could taste so sweet, 835 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 7: scent like strawberry's harvested solely by God's worthy out happily 836 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 7: trick for this treat. And I'm gonna leave it there 837 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 7: because I am dying. 838 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 2: Jay jack Y, I'm gonna lie. I'm gonna liun no. 839 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 2: That was That was dope, real dope, Yo. 840 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: I know it's kind of hard to handle for everybody. 841 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 1: Give it up for Daniel, Yo. 842 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 2: I say it like this. 843 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: I say it like this, and God we trust. I 844 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: see a shirt and I tell them seeings day not 845 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: like us. 846 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: What can you do? Yo? You know the whole outcome. 847 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 2: I see Martin and of course I see Malcolm. 848 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: We know right now. I keep my mind heavy. I 849 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: keep it already. When I'm with Jay Shetty, it's like 850 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: this consense yo. 851 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 2: I guess you know me. I gotta say rest in 852 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 2: peace to that brother Kobe. 853 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: This is how it is, yo, We at your service, 854 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: were right here in Chicago, and this is about purpose. 855 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: It's on purpose, Yo. I'm telling you these words. Is 856 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: my man Jay Yo. I told you he's a wordsmith. 857 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: Com sense. I'm coming. I got my brother from London. 858 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 2: This is how it be. I got a hundred styles 859 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 2: in running. I can let you know. My mind's like encyclopedia. 860 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: When I come to the Chicago Theater, letting you know 861 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: it's time for me to climb. We talk about the 862 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: spirituality is divine and I'm coming straight for shot off 863 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: the head. My man Daniel said his favorite color is red. Yo, 864 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: I read through books to this how we look. We 865 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: got an understand, cam Sense. I've never been shook. I've 866 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 1: been hanging in places where we hang outside. I'm talking 867 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: about the West and of course the South side, and 868 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: that's how it be when I know to go off 869 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 1: and shout out to my people. That's even from the north. 870 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: Com sense, it's like this, Joe, I guess I'm living 871 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,879 Speaker 1: in I was cruising up and down the street called 872 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: Michigan Avenue, grabbing new things that I need to do. 873 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: Com sense, Yo, I told you I believe in you 874 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: and believe in me as I'm receiving these things. Earlier, 875 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: we were talking Jay about dreams and that's how it 876 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: be the style of be free. 877 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 2: I just gotta say respect to g O. D you 878 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 2: have been danging everyone. 879 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 5: That was that was a surprise for me. Wow wow. 880 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 2: Wow little fun wow o little yea. 881 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was I was not expecting that. 882 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 2: Man, I kind of I love I love rapping man. 883 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: I love I love him see and once once we 884 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: had the music a little bit and Daniel did his thing. 885 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm at home, I'm on the Jayson said show. 886 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, I got it. I want to m C. 887 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 5: I was straight up the dome. 888 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,720 Speaker 3: It was all the references that what up yet reference 889 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,399 Speaker 3: It's amazing, keep it free. 890 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 5: It's oh my god, thank you, thank you so much 891 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 5: for that, and thank you Daniel. Daniel again, everyone, you 892 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 5: took your moment. 893 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 3: I love I love people taking their moment, yes, and 894 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 3: I love helping people have their moment. And when those 895 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 3: two things come together, because I feel like I spent 896 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 3: my whole life waiting for someone to give me a shot. 897 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 3: And often we can feel that way, just waiting for 898 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 3: someone to open the door or just let us in 899 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 3: or whatever it may be, and you know, oh, there 900 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 3: we go. He just made it upstairs. And it's just 901 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 3: beautiful when you put yourself out there like that. And 902 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 3: I hope that you know. One of the things I 903 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 3: like to do differently in these evenings is have moments 904 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 3: like that, because when you see someone who's sitting in 905 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 3: the same place as you are, but takes the moment 906 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 3: I hope it's a reminder to you tomorrow when you're 907 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 3: at the office, when you're talking to someone, when you're 908 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 3: with your family and you've just been avoiding that moment. 909 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 3: I hope it gives you the courage and the strength 910 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 3: to go. Daniel did that, you know, on stage in 911 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 3: front of two thousand people with coming. 912 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, Jay, I gotta say, like, you made me 913 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: think about like it was a point whereever I had 914 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: to learn to take that moment and this happened to me. 915 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: This is further into my career. This is basically I 916 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: was in a movie called Selma, right, And I was 917 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 1: an actor in Selma. Yeah, and I'm directed by the 918 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: great Ava Duvinet, and I mean it's incredible actors in 919 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,479 Speaker 1: there and actresses. But anyway, it was about the people 920 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 1: of the civil rights movement. And we finished the movie, 921 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: and the movie it really moved my spirit because we 922 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,320 Speaker 1: were living in the shoes and the skin of the 923 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: people the civil rights movement. So we got to meet 924 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: Ambassador Andrew Young and John Lewis, the late great John Lewis, 925 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: and it affected my life. I remember Ambassador Andrew Young 926 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: at our first meeting said, what are you willing to 927 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: die for live for that. He said, we were willing 928 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: to die for freedom and justice and equality, so we 929 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: lived for it every day, right, Well, that all that 930 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: affected me. We finished the movie and I'm asking everybody 931 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: is a part of it, what are y'all gonna do 932 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 1: for the like songs like what's gonna What's y'all got 933 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: any music in mind? They was like, yeah, we got 934 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: some in mind, but it's not you, right. So I 935 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: usually wouldn't seize the moment or take that moment, and 936 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: like I would be shy about that moment. 937 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 2: That's what I was talking about them in my light. 938 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 2: At times. 939 00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: I was on the phone talking to my manager saying, well, 940 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: what are they doing with the song for Selma? And 941 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: he was like, man, they said they got some people 942 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: they want to use, but they they haven't locked it in. 943 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: It hit me like it was like the Creator speaking 944 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,959 Speaker 1: to me. God was speaking to me. I literally said, 945 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to call you back. The thought came to 946 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: me like I'm gonna call John Legend and see if 947 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: he would be open to like working with me on 948 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: a song for this. I hang up the phone with 949 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: my manager and called John. John is in London and 950 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,720 Speaker 1: I tell him, hey, man, I'm part of this movie, Selma. 951 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: It's incredible, man Like, it's about doctor King and the 952 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,280 Speaker 1: women and the men of the civil rights movement. 953 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 2: Let's do a song. 954 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: Now, they don't want a song from us, so we're 955 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: submitting it. But will you do this song? He said, 956 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: I got you, brother. I usually wouldn't asked like my friends, 957 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: and I've worked with John before, but I wasn't the 958 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 1: type to just ask for it. 959 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 2: But something I listened to what God said, Look call John. 960 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 2: I did it. 961 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: And John said, I'm gonna be over here for a 962 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: few months on this tour, but I will go in 963 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: the studio. On Wednesday, I hung up the phone. I 964 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,359 Speaker 1: text them three titles. The last title I texted him 965 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: was Glory. He said he saw that that name Glory, 966 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 1: and it sparked his thoughts and he started coming with 967 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 1: the melody and he started, you know, coming up with 968 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: the words for the hook. One day when the Glories, 969 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: when I can't sing it, y'all, I mess it up. 970 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: But you know he did that sent it back to me. 971 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: After that Wednesday, I remember getting the music. I was 972 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,840 Speaker 1: going to my father's memorial. I heard that music. I 973 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: was overwhelmed. I ended up writing that song, and that 974 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: song became a song that we ended up winning a 975 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: Golden Globe, winning a Grammy, and winning an. 976 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 2: Oscar World for And I'm bringing that up because there 977 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 2: was that moment. 978 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: It was that one moment where I decided to listen 979 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: and not be afraid and just ask and seize the moment, 980 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 1: and it happened. 981 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 5: I'm so glad you shared that story. 982 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you shared that story because I think 983 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 3: you know that was later in your career, Yes, and 984 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 3: you still have that doubt where you have to listen 985 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 3: in And I think I love hearing that because I 986 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 3: think we all think one day we're going to get 987 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 3: to a place from which we don't have to listen 988 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 3: anymore to God, to that inner voice, to that direction. 989 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 5: But the truth is it's always the case. You always 990 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 5: have to go inward to find that outward direction. 991 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,360 Speaker 3: It's not going to happen by constantly looking around and 992 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 3: where do I want to be and where do I 993 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 3: want to go? And you've got to constantly look inside 994 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 3: and hear the ask here, the calling yes, that question, 995 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,320 Speaker 3: yes right, because we're looking for the answer that you 996 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 3: don't hear the ask. 997 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 2: Yes, you know what I mean. Yes, man, Yes, it's 998 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 2: a really. 999 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 3: Interesting thing that God's trying to ask you to do something. 1000 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 3: You're like, God, tell me the answer. 1001 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 2: Right, tell me to answer. 1002 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 5: I was like, no, no, no, I want you to 1003 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 5: do that. 1004 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: I want you to do this, and you have to 1005 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: be open to the to the experience and the journey too. 1006 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing, but it's a thing where it 1007 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: doesn't stop. Like I mean, last week, I was like, man, 1008 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 1: I want this, I want this. It didn't happen for me, 1009 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: and I had to like really come to grips and 1010 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: do exactly what I told you. 1011 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:32,800 Speaker 2: I work on. 1012 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: I work on like just still staying in gratitude, still 1013 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: knowing what's for me, is there for me, and really 1014 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,879 Speaker 1: being present and Okay, I prayed for that and I said, man, 1015 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 1: if it's in your will and I use my scriptures 1016 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: to and that didn't happen for me, then I have 1017 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 1: to understand that I'm supposed to be here wherever you 1018 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 1: have me, and I'm going to be trusting in that 1019 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 1: and be present in that. And that's one of the 1020 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 1: things that I just it doesn't stop. I was later 1021 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: in my career when I did that with John, when 1022 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: I said, hey, you know I called them. But it's 1023 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,399 Speaker 1: still moments where I'm like, should I say to this person? 1024 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: Should I not? But I'm more leaning towards because I've 1025 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 1: I've worked on it to say I'm gonna speak up 1026 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 1: for the things that I want or just say my truth, 1027 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: Like if it's something that doesn't work for me, I 1028 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 1: know how to speak up on that too. 1029 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 2: So I love that. 1030 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,919 Speaker 3: I wanna take the last few moments to end every 1031 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 3: on purpose interview, as we always do with the final five. Yes, 1032 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 3: these questions have to be answered with one word to 1033 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 3: one sentence maximum. 1034 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a real challenge. 1035 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 5: This is the real challenge. These are your final five. 1036 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 3: Question number one, which we asked to every guest who's 1037 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 3: ever been on the show, what is the best advice 1038 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 3: you've ever heard or received to. 1039 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,879 Speaker 2: Love others as you love yourself. I think that's the best. 1040 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 2: They're the best, and I've. 1041 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 5: Received I agree question. Oh yeah, give it up, absolutely, 1042 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 5: go for it. This is awesome question. 1043 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 3: Usually when I'm doing the final vibe with someone like 1044 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 3: I don't get this, so this is amazing, Like you 1045 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 3: don't know what a gift you're giving me by being 1046 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 3: here right now. You know, when we're doing this in 1047 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 3: the studio, it's beautiful. But we should do every episode 1048 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 3: with you guys here. 1049 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. 1050 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 3: Question number two, what is the worst advice you've ever 1051 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 3: heard or received? 1052 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 1: People say this, They say the same shit every day. 1053 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 1: I ask them, like, how you doing, and they say, man, 1054 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 1: same shit, new day. I don't subscribe to that mentality. 1055 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: So I looked at that as like bad advice, and 1056 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, so it's gotta be something new happening 1057 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: in a day, something. 1058 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 5: New, So create something new. Yeah yeah. 1059 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 3: Question number three, what was the hardest part about learning 1060 00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 3: to love yourself and take care of yourself? 1061 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,439 Speaker 1: The hardest part about learning to love myself and take 1062 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: care of myself is learning to love myself. When I'm 1063 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: being rejected. That is like a real that's a because 1064 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 1: that is when it taps into the little Rashid and 1065 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 1: the things that I've been rejected or abandoned from before 1066 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: as a kid. And when I'm rejected now you told 1067 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: me to keep this answer short, but to carry on. 1068 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 1: But when I'm rejecting now, sometimes I'm I can bring 1069 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: that little Rashid into the present and and those feelings 1070 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: are being rejected and make this new rejection greater than 1071 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 1: what it really is. I'm not present in what is happening, 1072 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 1: So I think loving myself in those moments has been 1073 00:57:58,760 --> 00:57:59,919 Speaker 1: some of the toughest times. 1074 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 2: But I feel I'm worth it, so I strive for it. 1075 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 3: Question number four, how do you show yourself self love 1076 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 3: every day? 1077 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: The things that I do for self love that I 1078 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 1: spoke about from every aspect, the prayer, meditation, foods, I 1079 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: make sure I'm diligent about it, and like if my 1080 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 1: call time is at five thirty, if they coming to 1081 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 1: get me to go to set at five thirty, I'm 1082 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: still going to get up and make sure I have 1083 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: enough time to do those things because that's me loving myself. 1084 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 1: That's me giving the time to myself that I need 1085 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 1: and that that has nothing to do with nobody else, 1086 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: but that's me and the Creator. And I think you 1087 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: know that's how I take time. And I also have 1088 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: boundaries now too, like where sometimes if somebody is I 1089 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: know it's taking advantage of me or just asking for 1090 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 1: too much and I'm not able or willing to give that, 1091 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 1: I know how to speak up for that So that's 1092 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: another way that I've learned to love myself every day. 1093 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 2: To speak up, beautiful sure. 1094 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 3: Fifth and final question of the final five we asked 1095 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 3: this every guest who's ever been on the show, if 1096 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 3: you could. 1097 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 5: Create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, 1098 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 5: what would it be. 1099 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: We would have to go inside of ourselves to find 1100 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: the greatest love that exists, and in every daily activity, 1101 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 1: we would have to acknowledge that love in ourselves and 1102 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 1: encourage it in others and see it in others. And 1103 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 1: that would be the law, to know that love within 1104 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 1: you and acknowledge it in others and treat them as such. 1105 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 5: Comen. 1106 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 3: We wanted to, I mean, beautiful answers. We wanted to 1107 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 3: do one last special thing with you because you kindly 1108 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 3: came out to Chicago to be here with us. I 1109 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 3: want you to take a look behind you in a 1110 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 3: second when we have it up there. If we get 1111 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 3: it up there, we go. What if you could communicate 1112 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 3: with your younger self? Now, what would you say to 1113 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 3: your younger self? 1114 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Well you had head inn brother, Well, I would say 1115 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 1: I would say man. I would say, man, no matter 1116 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 1: what you go through, you got everything you need to 1117 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 1: to be what your purpose to be on this planet, 1118 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 1: and go out there and do your duty, and do 1119 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 1: it in the highest way, and do it with joy, 1120 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 1: do it with love, do it with grace. And you 1121 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: will make some mistakes, you will go through pain. But 1122 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: God loves you more than anything, and you love you, 1123 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: so show the world that love. 1124 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 5: I love it. 1125 01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 3: And second one, what do you what do you need 1126 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 3: to hear? Look at very dapper, It's like what would 1127 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 3: you say you need to hear? 1128 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 2: Most? 1129 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 5: Right now? 1130 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 1: The quest is still going. You still got a lot 1131 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: of growing to do, a lot more to give, be free. 1132 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: You're doing well, but but you're going to be greater 1133 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 1: and you will do greater and all those things you're envisioning. 1134 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Continue to be patient and be diligent and remember your purpose, 1135 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 1: and Jail'll have you back on. 1136 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 3: Again anytime, anytime, anytime, anytime. Off off to this next one. 1137 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 3: I'll see if you want to come back on again. 1138 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 3: If we get a third or up, it's an ai 1139 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 3: AI from the team. When you look at that, what 1140 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 3: wisdom do you? What wisdom do you hope you will 1141 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 3: have realized? Well in the next ten twenty years. 1142 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 2: You finally stop putting that die in your bed. I 1143 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 2: would hope that I was still. 1144 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 1: Be enjoying like music, creating music, enjoying acting. I would 1145 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: hope to be getting my Morgan Freeman on at that point. 1146 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 1: And I would hope that the work that I have 1147 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 1: done is penetrating people's lives and families and things are 1148 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 1: just better in the world because of me doing my part, 1149 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: as we all do our part. 1150 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 2: And I hope that I'm just having fun in a good, 1151 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 2: healthy relationship. 1152 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 5: Coming everyone, come back anytime. 1153 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 3: If this is the year that you're trying to get creative, 1154 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 3: you're trying to build more, I need you to listen 1155 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,959 Speaker 3: to this episode with Rick Rubin on how to break 1156 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 3: into your most creative self, how to use unconventional methods 1157 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 3: that lead to success, and the secret to genuinely loving 1158 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 3: what you do. If you're trying to find your passion 1159 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 3: and your lane, Rick Rubin's episode is the one for you. 1160 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 4: Just because I like it, that doesn't give it any value, 1161 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 4: Like as an artist, if you like it, that's all 1162 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 4: of the value. That's the success comes when you say 1163 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 4: I like this enough for other people to see it.