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Speaker 1: Josh Clark, There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry. I
Speaker 1: predicted this will be the best podcast of the new year. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that one, and I think that
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Speaker 1: It's a little on the nose for Nostre Damas. Actually
Speaker 1: it's I should have been even more vague, like way vaguer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like explicit for him. Yeah, because no, stredamis
Speaker 1: used to like to just basically take concepts and words
Speaker 1: and put them together and pretend like they were going
Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, no, Stredomas snort a little nutmeg. I Um.
Speaker 1: When I was a younger person, I realized like from
Speaker 1: this and esp that, uh, I was into some pretty
Speaker 1: cool occult stuff. Read lots of books about ghosts and
Speaker 1: things like that. Meet you a little bit. And then
Speaker 1: now it's like an older person like I wanted to
Speaker 1: go to Duke University to study parasychologist. I was into
Speaker 1: like that kind of way. And then now as an
Speaker 1: older person, I'm like, and some of the things I
Speaker 1: used to believe just do a faith palm here there,
Speaker 1: Like for example, we got into real science, and that's
Speaker 1: usually what happens. Yes, so the pseudoscience is kind of
Speaker 1: fade away and once you start educating yourself. Well, we
Speaker 1: shouldn't say parasychology is necessarily as pseudoscience. It's not. We're
Speaker 1: here to poopoo. No stradomas, not esp paras psychology in general.
Speaker 1: But for instance, you were I remember not only believing,
Speaker 1: but frequently saying, dude, no stredamus. He had to be
Speaker 1: exu oomed once, like at the church he was buried at.
Speaker 1: They were like expanding and they had to exume his
Speaker 1: grave and they opened his casket and he was holding
Speaker 1: a tablet that had the day they exhumed him. I
Speaker 1: thought that was real. I thought that really happened. When
Speaker 1: I was a slightly younger man. That's awesome when you
Speaker 1: are in your late twenties, right, Yeah, I remember I
Speaker 1: didn't read up on stuff like this, but I was
Speaker 1: a big fan of like literary moys in search of
Speaker 1: and TV shows that kind of dabbled in the fringe
Speaker 1: and what's wrong with that? Nothing, There's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: enjoying that kind of thing, liking it, been wondering if
Speaker 1: possibly some of it could be real. Nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: the exploration, right, But the key to keeping egg off
Speaker 1: your face as much as possible is to doing research,
Speaker 1: especially when a claim is very extraordinary, really look into it,
Speaker 1: Like had I had I looked around, had the Internet
Speaker 1: been invented yet, and I looked around, and I probably
Speaker 1: would have found somewhere some entries saying like that is
Speaker 1: absolutely not true. Well, that's one of the Internet is
Speaker 1: one of the big reasons, I think, because before that
Speaker 1: was around, you know, it's you'd have to go search
Speaker 1: out a book that was written, including Nostradamas in the
Speaker 1: card catalog, and uh, it was just a lot harder
Speaker 1: back then, you know. Yeah, But the Internet is a
Speaker 1: double edged fiber optic line. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of sites out there that I mean, No Stredamas has
Speaker 1: gotten probably even more popular and even more play since
Speaker 1: the Internet was invented, you know. Yeah, So let's talk
Speaker 1: about this guy. Let's try to separate the man from
Speaker 1: the myth and really get into who No stre Damas was.
Speaker 1: Because he was a lot more than a crack pot
Speaker 1: writer of vague predictions. That's true. He was. One of
Speaker 1: the tough parts is though, is that there are so
Speaker 1: many disagreements about his biography, even Um I didn't find
Speaker 1: that necessarily. Yeah, I saw one guy wrote a book
Speaker 1: at him that said he wasn't even a doctor. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that is a disagreement. Yeah, well let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: go there then. Okay. So he was supposedly born in
Speaker 1: fifteen oh three. No, not true. In France, he was
Speaker 1: born Michelle de Nostre Dame. He became Nostre Damis because
Speaker 1: he latinized his name after he graduated medical school, which
Speaker 1: apparently was custom at the time. That's right. But when
Speaker 1: he was born he was Michelle de Nostradam. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he was his family was educated and they believed in education.
Speaker 1: So he was from an early age an academic in
Speaker 1: a traditional sense. Um, nothing wacky right out of the gate. Well,
Speaker 1: his grandfather um instructed him as when he was a
Speaker 1: younger man, taught him languages and kind of sparked his
Speaker 1: interest in all sorts of different topics and all things learning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and do you remember when we did the Inquisition UM
Speaker 1: episode where there are a lot of Jewish people who converted,
Speaker 1: but just converted in name only. Apparently Nostra Damis his
Speaker 1: family was one of those. Oh so that wasn't a
Speaker 1: genuine conversion supposedly not Again, it could be myth, it
Speaker 1: could be whatever. Because he was on good terms with
Speaker 1: the local inquisition uh and the local church officials for
Speaker 1: most of his life. So I guess either they didn't
Speaker 1: suspect him, or they he had a pass. I don't know. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's interesting, that makes sense. Uh. He studied a straw no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, astrology um, which was UM at the time,
Speaker 1: respected well respected as a science and um and supposedly
Speaker 1: his fellow astrologers thought he was full of it. His
Speaker 1: contemporary astrologer pals Well, one of the things that he
Speaker 1: did was he studied and this would play out throughout
Speaker 1: his Uh well, I would say his career as a predictor.
Speaker 1: But he really just wrote the book, the Centuries book,
Speaker 1: which we'll get to. But he studied astronomical patterns that
Speaker 1: coincided with historical events. That's astrology. Well yeah, but he
Speaker 1: he would basically use those to predict the future of it.
Speaker 1: Like by some accounts he didn't even say that he
Speaker 1: was a prophet. He said, I study history, and basically
Speaker 1: history repeats itself, and so I'm going to use the
Speaker 1: stars and when these things line up pattern wise in
Speaker 1: a certain year in the future, this may happen again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm that's like real astrology. Yeah, we should do
Speaker 1: an episode on that. Yeah, I've been thinking about that
Speaker 1: one for a while. This one, well, the the article
Speaker 1: we have like almost like spits in the middle. It's
Speaker 1: so one sided and skeptical. It's just a picture of
Speaker 1: a big lube, right. But I looked into Um, I
Speaker 1: looked into it and like, there's the It's fascinating what
Speaker 1: they used to believe in all of the holes you
Speaker 1: can punch in it, you know. But um, it's a
Speaker 1: pretty We should do that for sometime. Yeah. I had
Speaker 1: my chart done one time, like for real by my
Speaker 1: friend's mom, and um, I remember looking at it and
Speaker 1: thinking like, wow, that's a lot like me. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty accurate. But and even even remove that last part,
Speaker 1: the amount of thought and effort in what it's based on,
Speaker 1: in the ancient tradition of it and everything that in
Speaker 1: and of itself is fascinating, you know. And then you
Speaker 1: can get into we're totally doing astrology at some point.
Speaker 1: But um, so what he was doing was astrology. Apparently
Speaker 1: where he ran a foul of his fellow astrologers was
Speaker 1: to make predictions of how something would come about. Rather
Speaker 1: than the next time Venus is in the seventh House
Speaker 1: of Mars and a cat catches fire, um, the there's
Speaker 1: gonna be an earthquake something like that, he went further
Speaker 1: and like made predictions about you know, what was going
Speaker 1: to set this off, and like where the people involved
Speaker 1: we're going to come from, and like um, and then
Speaker 1: he was very very vague. So all of that added
Speaker 1: to the astrologers disdained for him because he gave him
Speaker 1: a bad name pretty much because they were all right
Speaker 1: exactly uh so uh he left home, supposedly in uh
Speaker 1: to study medicine legit medicine and became a physician. Most
Speaker 1: people agree that he became a professor in a physician
Speaker 1: in southern France, and apparently it was pretty good doctor
Speaker 1: uh at treating plague victims. He's very ahead of his time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even though he lost his wife and son, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: his children to the plague and yeah, and that had
Speaker 1: a big effect on his life. Obviously, he basically sent
Speaker 1: him on the road for a decade um, which is
Speaker 1: where he kind of came up with this uh plan
Speaker 1: to write this book. So he um he was he
Speaker 1: was a progressive doctor in that like he prescribed sanitation practices, um,
Speaker 1: he prescribed fresh air. Um. He also apparently came up
Speaker 1: with a rose hip lozenge to help cure plague, mild
Speaker 1: cases of plague, and that actually makes sense because rose
Speaker 1: hips are packed of vitamin C. So he was a
Speaker 1: pretty good doctor and had a good record. And from
Speaker 1: that he lived in this village with his wife and
Speaker 1: children and had a patron who basically supported the family.
Speaker 1: And then once his wife and children died, he couldn't
Speaker 1: cure them. His star really fell in this village. And
Speaker 1: about the same time, he also had a pretty good
Speaker 1: sense of humor. About the same time, they were raising
Speaker 1: a statue of the Virgin Mary in the local church,
Speaker 1: and he thought it was the ugliest thing he'd ever seen.
Speaker 1: And he was making a comment on the artist's abilities,
Speaker 1: not the Virgin Mary, but he said, these guys are
Speaker 1: casting demons, like basically saying, that's a really ugly Virgin Mary. Well,
Speaker 1: the artist didn't like this and turn him into the
Speaker 1: Inquisition and that's about the time when he ended up
Speaker 1: on the road. Yeah, and he went all over Europe.
Speaker 1: Um just uh. Basically he was described as sort of wandering,
Speaker 1: but he did meet another woman, uh and get remarried
Speaker 1: on his wanderings, I think towards the tail end of
Speaker 1: his wanderings about eight years later, and moved to Salon
Speaker 1: uh in France, and then he started kind of getting
Speaker 1: his uh, getting his act together in in a in
Speaker 1: a real way to publish. Like he he he said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna put together this book of prophecies.
Speaker 1: I've been messing around, I've been kicking the idea and
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it. So we'll talk about what
Speaker 1: came out of that. Right after this, So Chuck Nostre
Speaker 1: Damas is settling down in Salon Salon, Yeah, selectives and
Speaker 1: um he is deciding to put his awesome thoughts down
Speaker 1: into quatrains that's right, into a book called the Centuries.
Speaker 1: But at the time he just called it the Prophecies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Prophecies of Michelle Nostradamis. I think when did they
Speaker 1: rename it? Um, I think after his death. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: apparently the centuries had nothing to do with time, but
Speaker 1: it was in the structure, the organized structure of the
Speaker 1: book itself, because there a thousand quatrains dreds for some reason.
Speaker 1: So that's the centuries. And it wasn't it wasn't chronological
Speaker 1: or anything like that. No, And it was, um, it
Speaker 1: was a It became a huge sensation due to a
Speaker 1: few things. Um. One, simply enough was that the printing
Speaker 1: press was a recent invention and books were a big
Speaker 1: deal now, you know, like widespread books like there was
Speaker 1: now something could literally be a best seller for the
Speaker 1: first time. So it aligned in that way. And another
Speaker 1: is that he just sort of fit the dark times.
Speaker 1: It was a book for and of its time, with
Speaker 1: all his dire predictions. It was you know, when the
Speaker 1: Catholics and Protestants were warring and there were all kinds
Speaker 1: of people saying the end of the world was coming,
Speaker 1: and it was just it was basically put out right
Speaker 1: at the right time and widespread because of the printing press.
Speaker 1: And then Queen Catherine de Medici of France was a
Speaker 1: really superstitious queen, and um, he predicted her husband Henry
Speaker 1: the seconds death, yeah, pretty specifically for once. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: we'll poke holes on that too. Um, And it happened
Speaker 1: a few years later, and so she invited him to
Speaker 1: the court, which was like the most popular court in
Speaker 1: Europe at the time, and so he got a lot
Speaker 1: of attention there. So he was sort of like a
Speaker 1: big uh writing superstar of his day because of all
Speaker 1: these things. All yeah, I mean, like he wasn't one
Speaker 1: of those posthumously honored authors like he was celebrated during
Speaker 1: this time. Supposedly he met some monks on the road
Speaker 1: once and um correctly said that one of them was
Speaker 1: going to be the next pope. Bam case salved No
Speaker 1: Astronomicus is the real deal, because that supposedly happened. So um,
Speaker 1: he had like a whole whole jam going where he
Speaker 1: would retire in the evenings and um, he would concentrate
Speaker 1: on maybe a fire, the flames of a fire, yeah,
Speaker 1: or he would take a bowl with some herbs or
Speaker 1: something in it and just zone out on those, try
Speaker 1: to read the herbs. Like you said, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was doing lines of nutmeg, but he was
Speaker 1: ingesting nutmeg most likely, yeah, which could be hallucinogenic, right,
Speaker 1: and he had to have been rich to just be
Speaker 1: doing nutmeg, you know, um, because they had just discovered that. Um.
Speaker 1: And he would just kind of zone out. He would
Speaker 1: apparently he got help from an angelic figure, that's what
Speaker 1: he says, and then he he would just see the future.
Speaker 1: It would come to him. The thing is is no
Speaker 1: str Damas. These prophecies didn't come to him, all convoluted
Speaker 1: and kukie and however he put them, he understood exactly
Speaker 1: what was going to happen. Well, he supposedly convoluted them
Speaker 1: on purpose to avoid persecution during his lifetime. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is supposedly what he told his son from a second
Speaker 1: marriage that, yeah, doing all this on purpose. And um,
Speaker 1: because they will, you know, string me up as a
Speaker 1: heretic because I'm so you really accurate, they will find out,
Speaker 1: which I mean at the time, it was a genuine concern.
Speaker 1: So it's it's not like this is just a preposterous
Speaker 1: claim on no stredamss part. It's just that for skeptics
Speaker 1: of no Stredamas, it's just one more venient little thing
Speaker 1: because if you read the quad trains, they make almost
Speaker 1: no sense in all sense. Simultaneously. Yeah, depending on whether
Speaker 1: you're reading them on their own or whether you're trying
Speaker 1: to look at them in context. Well, yeah, well we
Speaker 1: might as well go and talk about that. That's one
Speaker 1: of the big reasons you can poke holes in it
Speaker 1: is because there were even experts say, it's hard to
Speaker 1: find two copies of this book that are the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it was translated, you know, hundreds of times. It
Speaker 1: was the early printing presses were you know, they weren't
Speaker 1: super accurate, and they would if the printer maybe didn't
Speaker 1: know exactly what he meant, they would say, well, I
Speaker 1: think he meant to actually have an apostrophe here, and
Speaker 1: in Middle French, that apostrophe could completely change the meaning
Speaker 1: of the word um. So beyond that confusion and the
Speaker 1: translation confusions, there are, like you said, there are many
Speaker 1: different ways to enter for something, and if something didn't
Speaker 1: come true, you could probably find a version out there
Speaker 1: of it that supports whatever you think he predicted. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a pretty good example that people give of a
Speaker 1: translation problem um after nine eleven, which we'll talk more
Speaker 1: about in a second. They some some quatrain of or
Speaker 1: I guess an assemblage of no sudamisis quad trains were
Speaker 1: kind of bandied about his proof that he predicted it right.
Speaker 1: One of them was there would be smoke in the
Speaker 1: new city. Well, in his actual text in the centuries
Speaker 1: he wrote Villaneuve Vienneuve, which means in French the new city,
Speaker 1: But it was also a city in France at the
Speaker 1: time that he was probably talking about. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of translation and interpretation that can come together and
Speaker 1: really lead to a misunder standing. If there is even
Speaker 1: such a thing at all with Nostre Damas. Can you
Speaker 1: misunderstand him? I don't think it's possible. Can you misunderstand
Speaker 1: what's not understandable? Yeah, Well, since we're talking about interpreting,
Speaker 1: we might as well go onto the famous Hitler prediction.
Speaker 1: Beasts ferocious with hunger will across the rivers. The greater
Speaker 1: part of the battlefield would be against into a cage
Speaker 1: of iron. Iron will the great one be drawn from
Speaker 1: the child of Germany? Observes the man. I wouldn't I
Speaker 1: hope we added some effect to that, Jerry, Yes, vocal effects, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something menacing maybe, or maybe we should do like clown music.
Speaker 1: Um so histor this was has long been looked at
Speaker 1: as the prediction of the rise of Hitler. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: says Germany in there. Yeah, it's Germany and histor Um.
Speaker 1: But histor was actually the lower Danube River, and so
Speaker 1: most people, um or skeptics would say, well, he didn't
Speaker 1: say Hitler, he said Hstor since that was a place, Um,
Speaker 1: that's probably what he meant. Or he would have said Hitler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a miss right there. Um some people say, well,
Speaker 1: Hitler was born around the Danube, so he still met Hitler.
Speaker 1: That's exactly the point is that people will find a
Speaker 1: way to interpret it if they choose to. But the
Speaker 1: Nazis still use this to their advantage. They actually dropped
Speaker 1: pamphlets containing this prediction onto France from plains because they
Speaker 1: wanted to scare them, like, hey, even Nostradama said we're coming,
Speaker 1: and we're coming, and it worked. I guess it did
Speaker 1: for a while. So there's basically the if you're a
Speaker 1: skeptic of Nostradamus, you say, Okay, first of all, he's
Speaker 1: not really saying anything or anything crete, right, And a
Speaker 1: believer of Nostre Dams would say, well, he even said that,
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to get it. Unless you're one of
Speaker 1: the enlightened, few can happen to be one of them.
Speaker 1: It's not for this time. It's for people far from
Speaker 1: now to understand. And so the skeptic that's arguing wild
Speaker 1: sigh and then say, okay, um, here's the thing though,
Speaker 1: even if, even if he is saying something like even though,
Speaker 1: if there's something clear, he's making a prediction, and it
Speaker 1: does seem to come true if you look at events
Speaker 1: in human history as numbers on a graph. Eventually, statistically speaking,
Speaker 1: one of nostre dams is very vague predictions about the
Speaker 1: rise of a power, a war, an earthquake, something like
Speaker 1: that is going to happen, and maybe something will have
Speaker 1: even a couple of predictions that will fit one event,
Speaker 1: like the date might align somehow something because every once
Speaker 1: while he used dates, but for the most part he didn't. Um.
Speaker 1: But if you look at it statistically, yes, even Nostradamis's
Speaker 1: predictions are going to come true over a long enough
Speaker 1: period of time. If again, if you read the predictions,
Speaker 1: it's hard to say his predictions come true because he's
Speaker 1: not really predicting anything. It's not like he sat back
Speaker 1: and said, uh, sometime in the twentieth century, a guy
Speaker 1: with a terrible mustache is going to come to power
Speaker 1: and there's going to be a a horrific war as
Speaker 1: a result. Nothing even approaching that. I mean, you read
Speaker 1: what the Hitler prediction was like, it could be anything.
Speaker 1: But even if you have predicted something, if you take
Speaker 1: his predictions as predictions, if you put them over the
Speaker 1: arc of time, eventually you're gonna get hit. So that's
Speaker 1: one argument. A skeptical argument against no stredamis yeah, especially
Speaker 1: if you believe um, like most people do, that history
Speaker 1: repeats itself in some fashion over a long enough timeline.
Speaker 1: When he himself said that that's the model he used,
Speaker 1: was using the stars to look at past historical events
Speaker 1: to predict future events, So it kind of makes sense. Um.
Speaker 1: And also some people say these aren't even predictions because
Speaker 1: the prediction is something that you realize before the fact. Uh.
Speaker 1: And despite the fact that thousands of scholars have studied
Speaker 1: Nostre Damas and millions of people have read him, no
Speaker 1: one has ever pointed out something before it happened. It's
Speaker 1: always afterwards that they go back and see, look, see
Speaker 1: here he said this was gonna happen, and it happened
Speaker 1: because we interpreted that way. But no one's ever said
Speaker 1: stopped anything in its tracks because No Stredamas predicted it
Speaker 1: as an excellent point. You know, it also raises another
Speaker 1: argument against um nostre Damas, and that the people who
Speaker 1: follow no streams, like you said, it's always the interpretation
Speaker 1: is always after the fact, and allegations of shoehorning occur
Speaker 1: where basically you make something fit, you've shoehorn it in
Speaker 1: to the cont x and in doing so you cherry
Speaker 1: pick stuff that makes sense and you ignore stuff that
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. Yeah. In fact, I think this article,
Speaker 1: this one line says it best imprecise language lends itself
Speaker 1: well to subjective interpretation. Yeah. I mean, if you throw
Speaker 1: something super vague out there, you could come up with
Speaker 1: a hundred different interpretations of it. You know, that's what
Speaker 1: poetry is exactly. And you know, uh, despite all of
Speaker 1: these very great arguments, there's still plenty of people out
Speaker 1: there who believe in No Stredamas. Almost seems like there
Speaker 1: should be a phase in life where you do go
Speaker 1: through believing that No Tredamas is real, because it does
Speaker 1: kind of lend some sort of something to life. It
Speaker 1: also coincides with being really into Pink Floyd exam it's true.
Speaker 1: So um, we'll talk a little more about some of
Speaker 1: the people who argue for and against no stre damas
Speaker 1: specifically centered around nine eleven. Right after this, okay, Chuck,
Speaker 1: nine eleven happened, and almost immediately people said, Nostra dam
Speaker 1: has predicted this. Yeah, his sales went through the roof apparently,
Speaker 1: and supposedly his name was Google's more than Usama bin
Speaker 1: Laden or George Bush after nine eleven. Really, that's what
Speaker 1: they say. That sounds like something someone just writes on
Speaker 1: the internet exactly, but I believe it. Well, here's why
Speaker 1: his star rose again is because this quatrain emerged where
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, that's pretty close to what happened. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember hearing it and thinking, oh my gosh, so
Speaker 1: you want to read this one. You're pretty good at reading.
Speaker 1: Can we get the sound effect again? Please heep the
Speaker 1: clown music. In the City of God, there will be
Speaker 1: a great thunder, two brothers torn apart by chaos, while
Speaker 1: the fortress endures. The great leader will become the third.
Speaker 1: Big will begin when the big city is burning. That's
Speaker 1: super specific Yeah. The only thing I don't know if
Speaker 1: most people would agree on is calling New York the
Speaker 1: City of God or George Bush the Great Leader. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: but the two brothers, clearly those are the two towers.
Speaker 1: The Fortress endures, the Pentagon. Uh, the Great Leader Bush, Yes,
Speaker 1: some people said, and then the third war will begin
Speaker 1: when the big city is burning. Well, at least one
Speaker 1: more war. I don't know if it was World War three,
Speaker 1: but a pretty huge couple of wars started up as
Speaker 1: a result. So people are saying, here it is finally
Speaker 1: evidence that shows almost incontrovertibly that Nostre Thomas was the
Speaker 1: real deal. What's the argument against the chuck? Well, it
Speaker 1: was made up. Yeah, Nostre Thomas didn't write that. Now,
Speaker 1: it was apparently written by um several years ago by
Speaker 1: a guy named Neil Marshall was a student in Canada,
Speaker 1: and said he was actually using that as a demonstration
Speaker 1: and of what Bunk Nostre Damas was like. I could
Speaker 1: write something like this and people would think he predicted
Speaker 1: nine eleven, and somehow it became something that no stre
Speaker 1: Damas wrote. He actually proved it by writing there and
Speaker 1: then it getting picked up in two thousand one. So
Speaker 1: what he set out to do worked perfectly. He and
Speaker 1: you have to wait more than four years. So he
Speaker 1: basically showed just how um man. I hate to use
Speaker 1: this word, but global people can be when they're reading.
Speaker 1: No stre damas is work because no one checks anything. Dude.
Speaker 1: They see it and they click on it and they
Speaker 1: post it to social media and then it's done. And
Speaker 1: here's a here's another really good example of that a
Speaker 1: little while ago. This still cracks me up. ClickHole you
Speaker 1: know the onions like, uh, BuzzFeed like site? Oh is
Speaker 1: that onion? Yeah? I didn't know that, I believe so yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm almost positive I know. ClickHole Yeah, okay, so ClickHole
Speaker 1: satirical site of buzzfeedee charts. Um, they released something called
Speaker 1: five Tragedies Weirdly predicted by Adam Sandler, and dude, they
Speaker 1: are so can I read a couple? So, in the
Speaker 1: wake of the tragedy, um, apparently people went back and
Speaker 1: saw that Adam Sandler, during his early stand up career,
Speaker 1: would mutter something's coming to Waco, something dark like during
Speaker 1: his stand up show. Is that true? None of this is? Okay?
Speaker 1: I thought they just picked apart real things and no, okay.
Speaker 1: So car crash that killed Princess Diana. Apparently if you
Speaker 1: go back and watch Happy Gilmore, which was made in
Speaker 1: Sandler looks directly in the camera and says our Queen's eldest,
Speaker 1: the beautiful flower will will under a Parisian bridge. Can
Speaker 1: I keep going? So the BP oil spill that happened
Speaker 1: in two in the Gulf, apparently Adam Sandler was on
Speaker 1: Conan O'Brien in two thousand five and he was just
Speaker 1: wearing a T shirt that said BP oil spill. In
Speaker 1: five years the two thousand ten Haitian earthquake, the UN
Speaker 1: estimates that two d two thousand, five hundred seventy people
Speaker 1: were killed. Apparently in Adam Sandler's Funny People, he estimated
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty thousand on the notes. And then lastly,
Speaker 1: in Malaysia Airlines flight three seventy, Adam Sandler um when
Speaker 1: he was operaman, there was a operaman sketch where he says,
Speaker 1: I'm missing plane. It's from Malaysia. Makes me insane. This
Speaker 1: will all make sense in due time. Here's the thing, man,
Speaker 1: people believe that viral. I'm not kidding you. It went
Speaker 1: viral that like somehow Adam Sandler had made all these
Speaker 1: crazy predictions and this is a real thing. Apparently they
Speaker 1: didn't announce that when click Bait came out that it
Speaker 1: was a satirical site that bp oil spill and the
Speaker 1: teachers pretty good. Um, well, let's get into some of
Speaker 1: these then. Uh. First of all, to further the nine
Speaker 1: eleven thing, there were a couple of um other quatrains
Speaker 1: which have been cobbled together to try and support the
Speaker 1: nine eleven thing. Um. But like I said, they weren't
Speaker 1: as he wrote them. They like would combine things, which
Speaker 1: is just silly because that goes against everything that he
Speaker 1: was saying was each quatrain is its own thing. Uh,
Speaker 1: one of them century ten Quatrain seventy two. Uh. The
Speaker 1: year seven months from the sky will come the Great
Speaker 1: King of Terror to resuscitate the Great King of the
Speaker 1: Mongols before and after Mars reigns. By good luck. That
Speaker 1: last part sounds like it's from a fortune cookie. Um
Speaker 1: that before nine eleven, back in nineteen ninety nine, some
Speaker 1: people for he was for telling the end of the
Speaker 1: world would be on July. And I remember this happening,
Speaker 1: and I remember it being a big deal. There was
Speaker 1: like genuine concern from some people, like some stores and
Speaker 1: France had like closeout sales. There was this one um
Speaker 1: French designer who like canceled his big uh. He was
Speaker 1: a big believer and he canceled this big show. And
Speaker 1: of course it didn't happen, and then it was recalculated
Speaker 1: and everyone said, no, no, no no, no. It was this
Speaker 1: supposed to be July twenty four. If you read it
Speaker 1: this way, it means August eleven, and of course the
Speaker 1: world didn't and then either August. How do you get
Speaker 1: August eleventh from seven months in the ninet Well again
Speaker 1: it was there were some different translations that maybe we're
Speaker 1: different enough to ye. But then that one was also
Speaker 1: used for nine eleven, was repurposed for nine eleven, right there,
Speaker 1: like he was this close, yeah, a couple of years off. Well,
Speaker 1: they combined that one with Century six Quatrain ninety seven,
Speaker 1: which says, at forty five degree reason, this guy will
Speaker 1: burn fire to approach the great new city. In an instant,
Speaker 1: a great scattered flame will leap up when one will
Speaker 1: want to demand proof of the normans. What is that
Speaker 1: last thing? I'm not sure that's the thing, Like you
Speaker 1: can't just pick part of it and then discount the
Speaker 1: rest and say that, you know, he was wrong on that,
Speaker 1: But that's exactly what people did. Well they did because
Speaker 1: Um several quatrains referred to an anti christ figure called Mabus,
Speaker 1: and if you rearrange the letters, it could be Usam
Speaker 1: b and so people use that as proof. But they
Speaker 1: also didn't they failed to mention that previous to that,
Speaker 1: they used it as Saddam, like up to the day
Speaker 1: before even yeah, they were saying it was Saddam Hussein
Speaker 1: was Maba's because maybe it's spell backwards a su bomb
Speaker 1: kind of a reach if you ask me, it is well,
Speaker 1: in that forty five degrees part of the quad trains,
Speaker 1: some people said that New York cities around forty degrees
Speaker 1: five minutes north latitude, so that's close. But again he
Speaker 1: was said the new city UM will burn at forty
Speaker 1: five degrees Villanueva or vienneuve Um is that about forty
Speaker 1: five degrees latitude? So it could just be interpretation. I
Speaker 1: don't know who's really at fault here. Is it nostre damas?
Speaker 1: Is it the people who UM just blindly accept no
Speaker 1: damas predictions? Is it though, because Nostre Damas purposefully obfuscated
Speaker 1: his stuff. So I think he's a little bit responsible
Speaker 1: for this too. I imagine since he has that great
Speaker 1: sense of humor. It made fun of that one guy's
Speaker 1: statue of the Virgin Mary. He is sitting in his
Speaker 1: coffin holding a plaque with some future date when he'll
Speaker 1: be exhumed. His laughing and laughing maybe. Uh. We mentioned
Speaker 1: Henry the second he predicted his death. Um this quatrain, Uh,
Speaker 1: the young lion will overcome the old one on the
Speaker 1: field of battle in single combat. He will put his
Speaker 1: eyes in a cage of gold two fleets one than
Speaker 1: to die in a cruel death. So that means two injuries.
Speaker 1: And this actually happened. King Henry was in a jousting competition,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't on the field of battle. It was
Speaker 1: a friendly. It was a party basically. And Uh, Captain Montgomery,
Speaker 1: who was younger, the younger lion did joust hit hit
Speaker 1: him in the in the eye and through the throat.
Speaker 1: So the two injuries supposedly from one. Yeah, but that
Speaker 1: was all that his his wife de Medici, Queen Demanici,
Speaker 1: needed to know. She was like, you know, Holy crap.
Speaker 1: This has come true and he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy, The Challenger, the Great Fire of London.
Speaker 1: People have said that he's predicted all these things. But
Speaker 1: we could sit here all day poking holes in the
Speaker 1: you know that, not that we're poking holes, but other
Speaker 1: people have poked legitimate holes. I think we poked a few.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but I mean it's all been from other
Speaker 1: people's stuff. That's true. You know, I didn't do my
Speaker 1: own whole poking. No, we should probably say we'd never
Speaker 1: begrudge anybody that believing in something like that or enjoying
Speaker 1: like I don't think behind it or anything like that. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can go out dump all your stocks and sell
Speaker 1: your worldly possessions, or you cancel your big fashion debut. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all that just hurt you. Although that may have
Speaker 1: hurt the fashion world. Yeah, you probably had it the
Speaker 1: week after. You want to hear something crazy about the
Speaker 1: day before September eleven, this group called The Coup. They're
Speaker 1: a rap group out of Oakland. They're pretty awesome. They
Speaker 1: were releasing their album I can't remember what's called. I
Speaker 1: want to say, like party Time or party Fever, party
Speaker 1: something and um, like the day before they and it
Speaker 1: had the the guy Boots Riley, who is like the
Speaker 1: m C for the group. It had him like standing
Speaker 1: there pressing a button in the twin towers were coming down,
Speaker 1: like blowing up. They were going to release it like
Speaker 1: the day before. It was scheduled to release in September
Speaker 1: two thou one, and then nine eleven happened. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: let's change the cover. And that's why you've never heard
Speaker 1: of the coup I wonder Actually, yeah, well they were
Speaker 1: getting kind of big right around that time. The album
Speaker 1: had like good buzz around it, and then yeah, they
Speaker 1: just went away. They're still around them. Well, all the
Speaker 1: all the entertainment that was released around that time notoriously suffered. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: I can't remember what movies in particular, but yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things later around the people
Speaker 1: are like, well, we've released it right before nine eleven,
Speaker 1: so we were you know, we were doomed, but it
Speaker 1: was a movie. Who cares, you know. So if you
Speaker 1: want to know more about in Nostro Damas, you can
Speaker 1: go look this up on how Still works dot com
Speaker 1: by skin in the search bar, or you can just
Speaker 1: kind of look around the internet because there is plenty
Speaker 1: of stuff about that dude on there, and enjoy yourself.
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