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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this episode of Keep It Pause

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Speaker 1: is Sweetie. Today we are talking about creating a life

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Speaker 1: of longevity and I have my big brother from another mother,

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Speaker 1: mister Kenny Burns.

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Speaker 2: Y'all.

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Speaker 1: Kenny, you literally you know how to reinvent yourself. You

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Speaker 1: stay relevant, and I wanted to bring you on because

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Speaker 1: a lot of people see but they don't really know

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Speaker 1: the businessman that you are, all your journey and have

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Speaker 1: the many areas that you've tapped into. So I really

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Speaker 1: want to touch on a lot of those things. But

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Speaker 1: when I think about your life, I think about heavy

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Speaker 1: as the head that where's the crown? Because yeah, because

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Speaker 1: I know someone of your stature, like it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of responsibility that falls on you and you know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. But with those responsibilities and the rooms

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Speaker 1: that you're in, I know that gets.

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Speaker 2: Heavy at time for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They look for good time Kenny all the time, which

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Speaker 2: is like the heaviest part you gotta be on. Oh

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Speaker 2: Kenny's here, good time. Yeah, you don't know what's going

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Speaker 2: on in my life. It's just you want that light

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Speaker 2: switch when you want it, And that's been honestly my life.

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Speaker 1: Wow, from like day one, you've always been.

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Speaker 2: I've always been good time, Kenny. I think you know,

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Speaker 2: I think parallel with just being like a good human,

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Speaker 2: I've always wanted people to be good in my space.

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Speaker 2: I always wanted people to have the time of their

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Speaker 2: lives or helped get out of things. Obviously, when I

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Speaker 2: was younger, I was a little bit of a knucklehead

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Speaker 2: want to be thugg, but I always had a heart.

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Speaker 2: That's why hustin never really aligned with my spirit, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I did it. I mean I was locked up

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Speaker 2: at eighteen, you know, of high school, lost basketball, scholarships

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Speaker 2: and opportunities, and you think about life like damn, like

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Speaker 2: it's really who I am. So my whole life has

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Speaker 2: been getting to where my passion aligns with my purpose

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Speaker 2: because I've always had, you know, the energy for both.

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Speaker 2: It was just about them aligning, and I'm finally aligned.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: I feel it. Yeah, No, it's deep. It's deep. I'm

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Speaker 2: denouncing all types of gangster ship that I grew up

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Speaker 2: on and just all the things you think you're supposed

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Speaker 2: to be right because society, you know, has its own

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Speaker 2: playbook for you. And it's sad like when you don't

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Speaker 2: control your narrative, and for me, it's just about controlling

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Speaker 2: the narrative, not only for me before my people. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I remember when I first met you, well even new

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Speaker 1: of you. I was on the party seeing y'all, and she.

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Speaker 2: Was outside outside little Red Bones running around.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're here, We're here, Yeah, and you were like

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Speaker 1: I never had seen anyone mc a party like that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, this man is the life of the party.

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Speaker 1: And it was always exciting when you were there because

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Speaker 1: you'd always shout us out. We felt so important, y'all.

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Speaker 1: He was like my sis prins here by says here Like.

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Speaker 1: It was like we just really knew, like Kenny Birds

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Speaker 1: knows us. We felt like somebody in Atlanta. And then

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Speaker 1: I never remember the first time I actually got to

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Speaker 1: like get to know you a little better was when

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Speaker 1: I'm DC Howard homecoming one year. Okay, I had traveled

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Speaker 1: and we have a mutual friend.

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Speaker 2: A Mari Ware Yeah, my god, yes.

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Speaker 1: And you were with him, and then we ended up

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Speaker 1: running each other and I was like, this is a

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Speaker 1: a guy behind the microphone.

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Speaker 2: Yes to hang out, Yeah, we got to hang out.

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad you said that, because I felt like

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Speaker 2: people see my pictures, and back then it was pictures.

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Speaker 2: Social media was just starting the pot that's been my

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Speaker 2: whole life. They like judge me because of like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this light skinned dude dresses well, his wife is fine,

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Speaker 2: all his kids look good. Well, he must be like this,

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Speaker 2: he must act like this. And I think that's, you know,

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Speaker 2: they feel so bad for thinking the things that they think.

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Speaker 1: I never thought anything.

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Speaker 2: Well, no prejudgment, it's not. It's like you know you,

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Speaker 2: like you saying I saw you, well, you had a

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Speaker 2: bright light and look at you now, like not even

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Speaker 2: saying that I knew you were going to be Satima.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking, But knew that you had

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Speaker 2: a light, saying with Kayla, your whole crew like had

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Speaker 2: a certain energy. And that's honestly one of my superpowers

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Speaker 2: to seen people. I see the best in humans, and

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Speaker 2: I know how to place it and help out when

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Speaker 2: I can. And just like when I walked in here,

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Speaker 2: you told me you were doing this, and I was

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Speaker 2: telling your partner like, well, I know somebody in the thing,

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Speaker 2: because that's just like my.

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Speaker 1: First nature to connect guts and help people that that's

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Speaker 1: who you are. And I really that's probably a testament

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Speaker 1: to why you've gone so far in life, because you're

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Speaker 1: not gatekeeper and holding things all to yourself, You're willing

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Speaker 1: to share.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a thing called gatekeepers, of course. And then

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Speaker 2: you have hate keepers, and I think the generation now

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Speaker 2: are full of hate keepers. And I say hate keepers.

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Speaker 2: Gatekeepers are in place to make sure the best of

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Speaker 2: almost like having a middle class an upper class, and

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Speaker 2: that balance between worlds right now. The hate keepers they

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Speaker 2: don't want to let go of any of the power

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Speaker 2: can't you know, run them up. I mean a great

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Speaker 2: example of that. And I'm not in any way shitting

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Speaker 2: on Puff, but like so Rock was like his world.

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Speaker 2: You know, he built that brand to a whole another

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Speaker 2: thing and to be literally fired from it. But everything

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Speaker 2: Puff's associated with starts with that nucleus. Not only because

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Speaker 2: it made him, you know, one hundred million dollars a year,

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Speaker 2: but like, damn, imagine having But these are the people

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Speaker 2: in place. And then when you think you can speak

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Speaker 2: out and say the things you truly feel. I guess

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Speaker 2: he really felt like like that, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: But then to your world to stop. So that's what

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Speaker 2: I mean by like hate keepers, Like there are people

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Speaker 2: in pocket that will get rid of you and do

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Speaker 2: not need you for whatever reason, no matter how much

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Speaker 2: money you made them. So I guess I'm giving him

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Speaker 2: his props foray. But at the same time, you have

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Speaker 2: to be careful of that because we put too much

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Speaker 2: faith in people, and then we also don't really understand that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can say what you want to say, you can

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Speaker 2: act how you want to act with there are consequences,

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Speaker 2: and we were not in a generation that feels like

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Speaker 2: there's any consequences. They just running amuck. They are.

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Speaker 1: That's so true, so true. I want to go back

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Speaker 1: to your upbringing. You're from d C. I had a

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Speaker 1: short stint in DC when I worked on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 2: All politicians slash actress slash Yeah, come on, multi hyphenated listen.

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Speaker 1: I always say that d C was a place that

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Speaker 1: I found myself. I come from a very small town

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Speaker 1: and it gave me room to dream because there was

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Speaker 1: nothing else to do there. I could just dream and

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Speaker 1: I moved to d C after college, and that was

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Speaker 1: I found who I was. I was by myself, away

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Speaker 1: from family, and I remember talking to Mary Hardwick and

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Speaker 1: he was saying, if you want to be an actor,

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Speaker 1: everybody says, go to school, go to acting school. Well

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Speaker 1: he said, I tell you to leave home. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, you're right, because when I

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Speaker 1: left home, that's when she got rich. So I always

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Speaker 1: say d C is where I found myself. But you

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Speaker 1: grew up in d C. Tell me about that time,

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Speaker 1: like as a youngster, and like going to Howard and

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Speaker 1: running alongside you and Puffer school.

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Speaker 2: They're older than me. No, So I never went to Howard.

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Speaker 2: Jessica went to she graduated, but Howard.

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Speaker 1: Was shout out, jess we love your beautiful self.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she told me she love you, she's proud of you,

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Speaker 2: and she wants to come and all things.

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Speaker 1: So I wish she had brought her. Yeah, but y'all

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Speaker 1: got to come back over for this.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, for y'all. You want to come Loveland first.

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Speaker 1: I want to come there first, Yes, so I can

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Speaker 1: see what she do set here.

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Speaker 2: Because she wanted her to come over here. No, but DC.

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Speaker 2: You know, first and foremost, d C is a melting

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Speaker 2: pot of all amazing things and so many cultures. Like

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Speaker 2: when I was growing up, I first heard Elvis Crestwall,

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Speaker 2: what you know was happening in DC, I learned about Felakute,

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Speaker 2: you know diasporas, that's there, and then you know, then

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Speaker 2: there's d C. In d C, we have our own

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Speaker 2: formal music. Yes, we have our own sense of style.

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Speaker 2: Like I called d C the drive through because of

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Speaker 2: Howard University. Ironically, you know, people would come to d C,

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Speaker 2: go to Howard and then they would meet the DC

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they came to Howard and took a lot

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Speaker 2: of our style too. Like when you look at like

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Speaker 2: lot of credit. I called DC the drive through and

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Speaker 2: some bright spots. You know obviously in music and contribution

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Speaker 2: from DC because it was truly a melting pot where

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Speaker 2: I learned a lot of my superpowers.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I experienced my first go go that weekend that

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Speaker 1: we were in DC. He was like, we gotta go here.

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Speaker 1: So we went there and I was just like, and

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Speaker 1: I had lived in DC, it never went to a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a part talent also pocket musically, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: you start your body. Yeah, don't let you see somebody

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Speaker 2: who like child, it's gonna be a I don't know

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Speaker 2: what type of dance that's called, but it's sexual.

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Speaker 1: It's very scent.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: How did you go from? How did you even get

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Speaker 1: into party promoting?

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Speaker 2: So when I was a senior in high school, I

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Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't I wouldn't say I was a star,

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Speaker 2: but I was good and could have been great if

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Speaker 2: I chose basketball over the streets. But I was in

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Speaker 2: the streets, and you know, the year before that, my

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Speaker 2: junior I started going to light We got the fake Id's.

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Speaker 2: We started going to the Ritz and the Chicago's like

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Speaker 2: all the clubs, and I just loved the energy of

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Speaker 2: what it was. Puff was I think at Howard my

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Speaker 2: junior year, and they would do parties like at the

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Speaker 2: Opera and things like that. We were going. We were

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Speaker 2: in the streets, so we had a little bit of money,

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Speaker 2: Like who these young men? I know they really not,

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Speaker 2: but we had the fake IDs. So we were at all

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Speaker 2: No, deeply, And I think that that was the start

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Speaker 2: Drey made it aspirational for everybody, not just the hood. Yes,

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Speaker 2: And I felt like he was the mean to a molecule,

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, now this person, now that

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Speaker 2: But I just think they were taught these things. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And how long did it take? You talk about you

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Speaker 2: Like, let me start this, yeah, real talk. I didn't

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00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 2: want to be the old nigga in the club. I

432
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 2: was already the party king at forty. And I think

433
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 2: times have changed, right. You don't kind of look at

434
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 2: forty year olds fifty year olds like you did when

435
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 2: we were young. And honestly, our parents were tapping out

436
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: at fifty. They was like, okay, retirements and such, such

437
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 2: and such. They stopped dressing. They just it's like I'm

438
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: not yes, I'm not going fine, you can have it.

439
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: I think we have a little bit more zes for life.

440
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: We understand the value of life. We've created the industry

441
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 2: that we don't have to stop. There's transition as far

442
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: as like your creativity and how you want to show

443
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 2: up and you know, I feel like I didn't want

444
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 2: to be the old guy in the club. But then

445
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: also too, I wasn't in it musically anymore. I just

446
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: had a conversation the other day it was like, for

447
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 2: the first time in my life, I don't feel like

448
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 2: my post my my hand is on the postal culture

449
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 2: and not and I'm talking about young culture yea. Like

450
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: having that skill set my entire life kept me in

451
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 2: the game, yes, right, knowing what youngest to go getting that,

452
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: mind you, I do know how to spot ti talent

453
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: far and few in between. Every time a ten year

454
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: gap goes though, And I it's harder for me now

455
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 2: to come, oh you come, oh, let me get you

456
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 2: because ideals change, yes, values change, and what you want

457
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: in the game change, and because we don't have any

458
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 2: real gatekeepers anymore. Like I challenge all of my my

459
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 2: youngest that are like they're all vps and head of this,

460
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 2: that and the third, and I challenge like, would you

461
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: want your son listen to that bullshit you promote? Would you?

462
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 2: And it's not good now I have to write and

463
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: it's because no one is doing it. No, no one

464
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: is holding Like if you look at these We were

465
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 2: having a conversation on my podcast the other day. If

466
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 2: the Black executives walked out of these buildings and went

467
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: on strike until they were able to sign honestly what

468
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: they're passionate about or what was better or best for

469
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: our community, they would have to listen. Wow, because right

470
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: now they're searching for the op you know, they're searching

471
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: for the gang member, for young thug to be even

472
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: in the mindset he's in right now or was in

473
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: prior to even being a millionaire, having put people on

474
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 2: those amazing things with the hood, but yet you're still

475
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 2: with the bullshit, So what do you think is going

476
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: to happen? But we it's almost like us getting them

477
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: folding chairs. I remember them folding chairs, Right, We're gonna

478
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: come rescue, bubbing them. Goddamn, you ain't gonna just be

479
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you got Ray Ray on

480
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: the corner selling a dope to your auntie.

481
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: You're not talking to him.

482
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: Your mom was on the pipe and Reggie responsible, So

483
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 2: we don't we're confused in our thought process. But that

484
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 2: was where I think I started to have Like when

485
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 2: I left the club. It wasn't because I don't love

486
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: people I mean officely, that host essence, our host, you know,

487
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: strength of a woman. I do all these amazing black

488
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: timpole events, right, and that's purposeful because I want to

489
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: be Alne like I love people. I do not want

490
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: to entertain. I'm the best to do it. I don't

491
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: have no records. I don't, but if any artist is

492
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: on the same stage, they're gonna think about, Okay, Kenny's here.

493
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: I gotta make sure I do the thing because this

494
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: nigga's gonna come out. Yes, do my song literally, so anyway,

495
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: I want to keep that energy. But I also want

496
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: to be who I'm supposed to be, not even just

497
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: for my family and my children, but for the people

498
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 2: that look to me. How am I gonna be outside

499
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: with a boot full of women and I'm married, you

500
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, that's not doesn't And I

501
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: was like that for a long time, not that I

502
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: was doing anything with anybody, but the look y'all was

503
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: in the boot. But it's like, yeah, but they don't

504
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: know what, Like our relationship is, how I wing y'all

505
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: and we had real, you know, camaraderie for each other

506
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: versus the look exactly.

507
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: That's a real thing, per perspective is everything and O

508
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: look at something like.

509
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: But they gonna look at it like, oh, he got off. No,

510
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: that's Pat, that's not me. That's Patrick Richard. That is

511
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: not me. Shout out, shout out, pushy pee man, one

512
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 2: of my favorites. Man. So but that's another thing too,

513
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: like when you look at life like who are you

514
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: putting it? Look at Pat? Now you know what I'm saying. Yes, yeah,

515
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm most proud of. Things like that,

516
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: even you like speaking life in you or like whomever

517
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: I've come across has felt the energy and used it,

518
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: whether they did what I asked him to do or

519
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: told them they should do, They've taken a piece of

520
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: the energy and applied.

521
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: I love that you spoke about executives saying he would

522
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: I know you have two beautiful sons.

523
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: Make me cry, don't make me crazy crazy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

524
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 2: My son, Kyle Burns graduated Wheel High School uh spring

525
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. He reported in June wasn't feeling well.

526
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: I think starting at the end of June, came home

527
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: a couple of times well, you know, not talking about

528
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: it because it was like I had X or whatever

529
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm keeping moving. A good friend of the family and

530
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: actually the son of his high school coach died shooting

531
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: the hooch and drowned. And he came home for the funeral,

532
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: and literally the morning of the funeral, he couldn't get

533
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: out of bed and it was eight am. Took him

534
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: to the hospital one o'clock. He was in surgery. Had

535
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: a brain access that was caused by a science infection. Yep.

536
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 2: So if your babies are cold too long, sin and see,

537
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: go to the doctor. I never heard of anything like this,

538
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I'm out of town,

539
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: get the call. He's in surgery. Just as like damn

540
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 2: the passing out on FaceTime. I'm like, wait, let me

541
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: get you know. So I was on the way and

542
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: you know, the first surgery they didn't get it all,

543
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: so they had to go to another surgery two weeks later.

544
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: So this is cutting his skull off of his head

545
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 2: and literally, you know, him being without a skull to

546
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: January fourth of this year, got a fake skull put

547
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: back on, and literally last Monday, he got home from Japan,

548
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: where he played his first three games in a row.

549
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: Not even the year August twenty seventh was the first

550
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: surgery last year, so not even a full year ago.

551
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: And he's a miracle. But you know it's I had

552
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: never been tested. And to be honest with you, I'm great.

553
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: You turn into a great interview. You want to add

554
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: this to your your chiron or whatever. But I literally

555
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: changed again, right like and for the better, because my

556
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: entire life I have blinders on, meaning like I would

557
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: compartmentalize everything literally though like literally, oh shit, put it.

558
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: I would feel it. I would feel it just so

559
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: I could oh shit, this okay, but I would put

560
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: it away. And I think us as black men and

561
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: black women, we do that because of what we have

562
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 2: to do. That mind you, this whole year, my son

563
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: was going through his thing, and I'm talking about this

564
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: was life or death. This wasn't like you know, this

565
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: was like he could go and I'm having to go

566
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: show up and host and you know, be this light

567
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: and be this energy. Right And to this day, a

568
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: lot of people still don't ask me. I mean, they

569
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: see him all, I'm glad he's all right, but they

570
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: have no clue what it took to show up every

571
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: time I gotta show up. But in saying that, though,

572
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: you know, people look at the burns, it's like they're

573
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: gonna be all right. And I'm sure a lot of

574
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: people out there feel this, like, oh they doing good,

575
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: they gonna be alright, And you know what we are,

576
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: and you know, I receive that and I take that

577
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: as a blessing. I don't try and judge, Or told

578
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: Jessica the other day, we judge everybody for their lack

579
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: of consistency. We would have no friends. Wow. But that's life.

580
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: And you're not supposed to put what you would do

581
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: on somebody else. You're just not supposed to do that,

582
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Because everybody can't handle what

583
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: you can handle and that's life and life be life

584
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: in child.

585
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: Hell during that time, I know, just naturally your faith

586
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: was stretched.

587
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how like, how did you work through that?

588
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: Besides just keep.

589
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: Showing up pray you know, received all the prayer energy

590
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: from the warriors out there that had us, and never

591
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: really wavered from what was what was gonna be. You

592
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, because in life is either or

593
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: that's right, and that's drastic, but it's the truth, you know,

594
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: And we're getting older, we're gonna lose people y'all. Yeah, me,

595
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: every week, every week, Clarence Avanche is fact, Like every

596
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: week we're losing superheroes, We're losing family members. You know

597
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 2: that year my father died January first, twenty twenty two.

598
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: You know, Kyle had his surgeries, Kenny towards ACL you know,

599
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: diagnosis for friends with cancer like you just it's life,

600
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: you know. But one thing you cannot do is do

601
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: the war as me. That's right. You know, we gonna

602
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: catch haymakers, y'all. We gonna catch things and test our faith,

603
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: test our you know, abilities to continue. Like I was

604
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: telling him just the other day, how much money we got, right, okay,

605
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: paid everything and do okay, okay, cause I'm just you know,

606
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: you get tired. I'm not. And I said this the

607
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: other day and somebody was in you ain't quitting. You

608
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: can't quit. We need you, digg funk you're talking about

609
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: And so I'm not quitting. But I think, like you know,

610
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: to our conversation before we start the podcast, i'd rather

611
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: be heard. You know. This scene thing is, it comes

612
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: with a lot, and I'm not even what like I

613
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: don't do what you do, Like I'm not even you know,

614
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: rumored to have seen this, that and the third and

615
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: with this that and the third, and I don't I

616
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: don't have those. But I'm very you know, I think

617
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm probably the most noticeable non celebrity in the world. Absolutely,

618
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: And I feel like though it gets heavy because you

619
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: only see the good time Kenny, and I'm tired of

620
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: being good time Kenny. I'm not tired of giving you

621
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: a good time. I'm not tired of the joke. Yeah, man,

622
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: come on, let me be humor.

623
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: Sh You don't want the expectation of every time you

624
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: walk in the room, all right, niggas.

625
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: Last tell And I'm not even commeding although my comedic

626
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: time and it's been amazing, it's very much so. You

627
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: know you are funny.

628
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: I know they can be annoying.

629
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. You just wanted also to again a line.

630
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: You know, you you grow and evolve, and the things

631
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: that you adore you're no longer adore like you. I

632
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: adored the streets. I was so thankful for having learned

633
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: the things I learned. I'm still thankful, but I'm not

634
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: condoning anything else. Street like I would give the hustler

635
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt. But you gotta transform, my sister,

636
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: you can't continue. And then you know, we don't even

637
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: have honest hustlers anymore.

638
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: We got thieves literally, thieves and scammers.

639
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: Like, we got thieves and scammers, Like, where's the audacity

640
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: to hustle? Like, if you're in the street and you

641
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: got one way and you can get this amount, to

642
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: get this amount, I'm not going to head. Once you

643
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: get this amount, you have to do the thing. You

644
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: have to do the thing. And I know I've saved

645
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: so many lives because of my example, but not even

646
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: just my example, my actual tutele list. I've given people

647
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: the game. I've created opportunities for them to transition, but

648
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: like to know better and not do better. I just

649
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: can't go. Yeah, I can't go anymore. I love that.

650
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: It's the evolution of Kenny Burns.

651
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: I'm loving it.

652
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: You talked about having to show up and put a

653
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: smile on, especially when you're going through the things with

654
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: your son Kyle. I was just I had even Marcel

655
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: on recently and we were talking that morning before she

656
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: had pulled up. I was in my closet crying and

657
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: going through some things personally. And then you have to

658
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: wipe the tears off. Literally tell yourself, shake it off

659
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: and then go out and put it's on your face.

660
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: And that gets really heavy. And a lot of people

661
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: don't see that side of our lives, especially people who

662
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: are in the public eye. They think that everything is

663
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: just so sweet. And I try to I try to

664
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: be more transparent about the days that I'm not so

665
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: happy so that people can see that, oh, like she

666
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have every day is not perfect for her either.

667
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm gonna give you some advice with that.

668
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: Please don't share everything. And I say that because to

669
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: give people an opportunity to comment opens up a Pandora's

670
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: box sometimes, especially in our world, and I feel like,

671
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: you know, a trusted circle of people to springboard and

672
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: bounce things off of is the way to go. And

673
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: I would honestly encourage more of the mystique because you know,

674
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: to know you obviously, like I do, is to see

675
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: the inner light and the things that people don't get

676
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: to see all the time. But at the same time,

677
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 2: it's kind of cool that people don't even know all

678
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: the time and leave them guessing. Because one thing we

679
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: have to accept in our businesses they gonna talk child,

680
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: They're gonna have some opinions. Child, they're gonna just be like, okay,

681
00:33:54,720 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: but your fingernail polisch right, and life life, But we

682
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: can't control that, and know, should we put ourselves in

683
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: position to have to accept any of that?

684
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: You know?

685
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: And and and again it's about your circle. And I

686
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: know you've been you know, outside long enough to know

687
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: what you know, flawed individuals look like and then a

688
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: lot of them. And we all flawed ourselves at times.

689
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: But if you try to, you know, try to please

690
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: you being the people pleasing business instead of the crystal business.

691
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: That's so true.

692
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Thank you.

693
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate nobody, oh nobody, nothing, Oh nobody talk about.

694
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: Family members, because let me tell you how life work.

695
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: It be your people, man, It be your own people.

696
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: It be your people people. And we don't choose certain

697
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: people as family or friends, but be your people. Yeah,

698
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: so you guys got to don't don't put them in

699
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: the box. The one thing I regret is, you know,

700
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with that, but has everything to

701
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: do with as I matured in the business and I grew.

702
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: You know, we all chasing something, right, especially when you're

703
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: defining who you are. You don't know who you are

704
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: from the dough. It's the continuance of like figuring you

705
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: out in the process. You're making money, you have relationships.

706
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: The one thing man is like, when you have great relationships,

707
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: hold on to those relationships. A lot of things are circumstantial.

708
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of things are circumstances. When you're

709
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: cool with the people you're around a lot in this moment,

710
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: but don't leave you know those friendships Now, real friendships

711
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: are going to be intact. I have all of my

712
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: friendships from day one and time. But a lot of

713
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: things gets confusing as you grow with these people in

714
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: your immedia circle aren't always your friends just because y'all

715
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: don't set and y'all doing these things and you're around

716
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: these people. You have to keep your core your core.

717
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true. And I recently have gone through

718
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: a pursing season where I realized that people had been

719
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: in my life for years weren't happy for me, and

720
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: it's like we started the same place and it's like

721
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm ascending us in ascending and that person still where

722
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: we started, or they may have grown a little bit,

723
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: but not to the magnitude that I have. And it

724
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: becomes this jealousy and envy welcome.

725
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: Everybody can't go.

726
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: That's what my therapist said, everybody, literally everybody can't go.

727
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: I hope she said fuck them too. She didn't think nothing.

728
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: If you had a friendship, that's what I'm trying to tell.

729
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: You had a friendship, You're gonna be friends. If it

730
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: was never a friendship, it's going too rare. It's head.

731
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: Speaking of friendships now the world. On that topic, how

732
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: do you maintain and nourish the friendships as you built

733
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: in this industry? Because I know navigating this industry can

734
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: be caddy. You meet a lot of fake people. I'm

735
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: sure you want this, Yes, I want it.

736
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: I don't have many friends in this industry. I have

737
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: a lot of acquaintances. I have a lot of transactional relationships,

738
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 2: which is totally fun. I can count on one hand

739
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: how many friends I have in this industry. Wow, And

740
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: it's okay. But I think people should know that this

741
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: is a transactional world, not just business, not even sending.

742
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: Your relationships are transactional. But see, we don't understand that.

743
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: We don't understand the value, and that I understand thee

744
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: the value. The only thing that's changing with me. Now.

745
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: I understand the relationship are transactional, but I'm not gonna

746
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: fuck with you if you can't be aligned with my

747
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: purpose and passion. And it's not even as for sanity,

748
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: it's for association. You know. I don't know if you're

749
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: young as know, but they're creating this gang bill that

750
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: if you're affiliated, you're a part of the ship, just

751
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: like that. Absolutely wow. And you know I had said

752
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: something on an Earner Leisure podcast where I was talking

753
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: about a percentage you know, of crime went down. I'm

754
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: talking about like thirty percent of murders went down when

755
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: certain gang members got locked up. Wow. But guess what,

756
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, something changed when that happened.

757
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: You have to change like that in your relationships, though,

758
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: if you're associated with people that are not good for

759
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: you or not aligned with what you're doing. I tell

760
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: my male partners all the time, Yeah you go, but

761
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: you know what you do, right, you know how you

762
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: get them? Okay, cool, as long as you know right.

763
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: But you're subject to like losing time. We don't have

764
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 2: time to get back, no, we don't. So any choices

765
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: that you make in that realm, you're sacrificing time. Time

766
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: is not it's fleeting, it's not on our side. We're

767
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: not here forever. Wow, they could change it could derail

768
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: your whole life.

769
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: Literally.

770
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: I bet that the executives was a part of the

771
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: ricos and on the murder cases they wouldn't sign.

772
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: They sure wouldn't be signing those. They would change what

773
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: the rabbits even rapping about.

774
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 2: I bet the entire world would change that one little

775
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: piece change.

776
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: Wow, that's so powerful, and I agree with you.

777
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: I do.

778
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: Did you watch Tyron Shout?

779
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: Episode inspired me so much? Was Black Side tied? It

780
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: was and it just showed you when they was fighting

781
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 2: off and then hugged.

782
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: Let's get literally, when the music changed that.

783
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: The chicken, the gray juice, every this is. This is

784
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: a real thing.

785
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: It's a real thing, and.

786
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: We are brainwashed every day. I'm intelligent, I have a

787
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: value of life spent and shared. But I'm still peeling

788
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: back the layers on the onion. I'm still saying, don't

789
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: like that nigga shit, get it, don't like that nigga shit.

790
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: You're leaving nigga them today, leave it fifty And I'm

791
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: still trying to get out of some of my ways.

792
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: But ladies in gentlemen, imagine the ones that aren't strong. Wow,

793
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: we're talking about le's. Let's do the ninety ten analogy.

794
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 2: Nine percent of the world is gonna participate, They're gonna follow,

795
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: They're gonna do everything that this small percentage doesn't. Even

796
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: in that ten percent, it's only probably two percent that's

797
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: willing to kill everybody to get the money. You know

798
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Because it happened, I believe I'm one

799
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 2: in the temper cent that cares. But I still ain't

800
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: willing to do certain shit. That's why I'm gonna be

801
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: where I'm at exactly, I'm gonna be where I'm at.

802
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: I'm the fining successful myself. You can had the rest.

803
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I agree with that. Oh, unpacking, unpacking, killing

804
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: back the layers of the onion.

805
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: I love it.

806
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: How do you, even from a very young age, you've

807
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: been in this industry, how did you maintain integrity?

808
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: Shuit? I never walked the Brookly Cheesecake. I was never

809
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: gonna be put in a position where I was gonna go.

810
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: Through What would you be doing?

811
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: Come on? At that age has been a fist fight.

812
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 2: Fuck you talk too? You know what I'm talking about period,

813
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 2: But like now I think, like you know, we see

814
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 2: people dumbing out for the check. It ain't like rap music.

815
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: It ain't about the art. It's about money. Literally, give

816
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: me three hundred homes you can have my I saw

817
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: a whole interview where yo, god, he was talking about

818
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 2: three sixty deals are good, and he was talking about

819
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: streaming is good, and I'm like, like, first of all,

820
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: Napster happened to the business. Do you remember when Napster

821
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: in the business. That's what streaming eventually is. And then

822
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: they clone Tyrone and tality would be like they created

823
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: all that to get to this. And then you got

824
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 2: somebody who's one of the most successful in rap music

825
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: now saying that all this is good comes signing three sixties.

826
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: You know, three sixties deals take a percentage of everything

827
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: every ding, so I'm the label, so basically they fundling

828
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: the money back around to this. It's a complete circle.

829
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: It's a complete hamster wheel. But he literally one of

830
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 2: the biggest doing it, so people looking like, yeah, I'm

831
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: gonna do it three.

832
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: But as an artist, he probably wouldn't agree with.

833
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: That, not coming from anendent you were part of and Listen,

834
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: I ain't knocking nobody forgetting their hustle. Somebody gonna listen

835
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: to that, buying to it, you know. But as a

836
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: as a leader in the community, you have to be

837
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: responsible for the youngest. But I mean, you know is

838
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: what it is. I'm not gonna just be because I

839
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: feel a little spicy. You got some Uncle news. Tear

840
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: the industry down today.

841
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: Down it would change the world though.

842
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: No, Listen, we are in the precipice of black culture

843
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: right now, and if we don't burn down hip hop

844
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: music specifically and bring it back, we are at risk

845
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: of losing the soundtrack that has built three generations now

846
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: the soundtrack now. I don't think hip hop culture will

847
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: leave because there's industry now, fashion, lifestyle. But at the

848
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: same time we are in we are at risk of

849
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: losing a form of music. Do you remember rock music

850
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: with like the number one music in the world. Rock

851
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: music is an indie genre. Rock music and if you

852
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: look at pop music, it's emulated the best of hip

853
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: hop and made it theirs. You got Taylor Swift. Listen

854
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: to what I'm about to tell you. Everything Taylor do

855
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: could be pop leaning, but an energy and attitude it's

856
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: hip hop. It's hip hop culture, from the dances to

857
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: the audacity to be something. She not everything she represents.

858
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: But people don't.

859
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 2: Always like adhere to that because we get money now. Finally, yes,

860
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: well guess what if my generation took it to a trillion.

861
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: Your generation supposed to goddamn in systemic disparities in the

862
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: financial system that we got it to this point. Your

863
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: generation is supposed to make it equitable for black and brown.

864
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: There's no I mean, but now it's like slavery all

865
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: over again. Literally, no, literally, we're slaves. That these kids

866
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: are slaves. It ain't even spokes to weed no more.

867
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: They want to do the ship. They want to shut

868
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 2: the organs down.

869
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: Yes, it kills them.

870
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: You can't't gonna get no medicine that's gonna kill you

871
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: because you drink it every day. You're immune. Ye, But

872
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: these are things like that. This is where I am,

873
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: and I understand why people get button neckd and move

874
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: to the woods because life you get to take it

875
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 2: over your mindset and you'd be like, what, what what

876
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: is going on? And then you're looking at the political sphere,

877
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: you dumb excuse I'm sorry, because it's stupid because you

878
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: thinking not voting because it ain't gonna matter. Who is

879
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: getting drunk right now? Sy that's local state government. Yes,

880
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: you think it ain't gonna matter if you show up

881
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 2: to the polls. And the one I got him, Listen,

882
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: I don't know about the mother cases. Fanny got got him.

883
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: It's on tape. They not gonna go listen to me.

884
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: White people. And I love my white friends, and I'm

885
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: not talking to all white people, but white people are

886
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: in fear of losing their race. That's why you see

887
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: them bucking like they bucking. But guess what happened in Georgia,

888
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: the same thing that happened when we turn this blue.

889
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: When I was on air and y'all thought I was

890
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: crazy talking about why we should vote. Fanny got him. Yeah,

891
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: Fanny got him. He's not getting up out of that.

892
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: And all you cochin spiraits in a rico huh Ricoka

893
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: huh yeah, yeah, you get locked up to Rudy, you

894
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: old bastard. And I think he was essential in the

895
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: Rico bill, in creating the RICO. He was a part

896
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: of the day. But like y'all don't understand why vote.

897
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: Is important so important, They don't They do not love you.

898
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: So I love this.

899
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: Kenny is on fire.

900
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.

901
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: You have a very solid friendship with the Nice Yes,

902
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: how did that turn that friendship turn to business because

903
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: now you guys are like, it's almost like your own group.

904
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nice and Burns is a real thing. Anytime we

905
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: link up, it's magic. I'm very proud of what he's

906
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: been able to do. I mean, I never would have

907
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: done Kennedy Center, Apollo, cannav Hall, I mean venues where

908
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 2: I mean not Apollo, but those other videos where black

909
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: people couldn't perform. You know, we actually did the Apollo

910
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 2: and one of the OG's. I think it's like seventy

911
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: somethings like this is one of the best performances that

912
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: the Apollo's ever seen. I'm like, shut up, I don't

913
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: even respect your old g bs. Shit, fuck you had Motown,

914
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: you had hip hop and the Earth. You mean if

915
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: this was one of the best listens. So I don't

916
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: you know think I would have got those opportunities without

917
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: my brother. So I'm proud. I'm thankful. I love what

918
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: he's created with his movement, and he deserves it, you know,

919
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: thinking something that's the fruition is what happened with d

920
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: Nights before the pandemic hit. He was already doing White

921
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: House and you know, the big black simpole against like

922
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: we were both doing together. But this thing he used

923
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: to say to me all the time, I want to

924
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: be the biggest black DJ plain black music. You know,

925
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 2: EDM was going crazy and everybody was two hundred thousand

926
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: dollars to show up, like yes, throwing all the UF

927
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: were getting paid. Do you just always say why I

928
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 2: want to be that? Yeah, I'm like we can, Yes,

929
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: we will get it by myself and I love it

930
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: and I'm happy for him and without him, you know,

931
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: we wouldn't have got through. It's so easy, especially when

932
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: you think about he said something, Crystal, I want to

933
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: be the biggest black DJ playing black music. Huh, where

934
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: do you go from there? Like? And you did it?

935
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: Did it like you were on an island with us

936
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere, y'all doing it. But I

937
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: got the footage insert here.

938
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: Literally that was a fun weekend, man.

939
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: It was so beautiful. It was black and it was

940
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: excellent and we were fish out of water and literally

941
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: literally fish you know what I'm talking about. But like

942
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: in a different place and time in that moment was

943
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: for us. And that's the beauty that Ida has been

944
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: able to create for himself and we've been able to

945
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: create together. I love it. I love it.

946
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: You are an entrepreneur. You built your own empire. You're

947
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: not easily placing the box. You have the Kindy Burn show,

948
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: you do your mcne. Then you're an investor in Uncle

949
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: near'ss Cream Liquors.

950
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: Series A investor. Oh y'all, who keep asking me what

951
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: I do? Well? What you do with Uncle? I still

952
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: funded the initial funds.

953
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: I know that's tell them, hey, that's different.

954
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 2: And I started seventy five cent of shares now worth

955
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: twenty nine dollars.

956
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: Talk about it.

957
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: What you're doing, what you're doing with huh? Asked me?

958
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: Askally another motherfucker question. That's my first spirit investment. I

959
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: have four more. Okay, Uh, what's up do you have

960
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: as part of Spearhead Spirits which is a company just

961
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: gonna own ten percent? And his wife and we have

962
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 2: Elis Cream Locour, which is a Haitian kremos and spired

963
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: cream liqor we own t percent of that as well.

964
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: Love that.

965
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: I know that's right. I need to come. I need

966
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: to come to Loveland and get.

967
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: Yes, heating the grass and love. It's a thing.

968
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I could not wait. I know this

969
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: business can be gruesome and having a hold of your

970
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: mental and emotional wellness is key. What does someone like

971
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: Kenny Burns do?

972
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: Do you do have a therapist?

973
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: Do you?

974
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: No? You know, y'all won't just judgement if you like to,

975
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: I don't know. Judgement, No judge me. I want you to.

976
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 2: I want you to be in the comments. I don't

977
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: really I think therapy is good. I think it's always

978
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 2: good to have someone to talk to to think about people.

979
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: To get paid for it, though, is that they won't

980
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: keep telling you shit to come back. It's just my observation.

981
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: It's just my observation. I have a wife, and my

982
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: wife is my therapist because she's also my biggest love hater.

983
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: So I don't never get the yes Kenny shit. You

984
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about? So I get the truth

985
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: and I need to hurt for truth sometime. I need

986
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: the shit that's gonna just giggle a spine because people

987
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: like to tell your things and try to ease it

988
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: on in you. You know what I'm saying pause. But

989
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: the thing about it is you need the truth. See,

990
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 2: you need the truth and not a matter of fact

991
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 2: truth and response to something you might ask in the

992
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: form of a question and answer. But you tripping. You

993
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: know you shouldn't have did that. Wow. So you know.

994
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 2: I believe in therapy with the people that I love

995
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: and I know love me the best and have my

996
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 2: best interest. I don't believe in like sitting down with

997
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: someone I don't know and need to get to know

998
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: and tell them about my problems immediately. Nothing that's bad.

999
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: And whoever does it if you find that you might

1000
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: not have those relationships, it works. But yeah, and I

1001
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 2: also don't take things so literally.

1002
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1003
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: Again, I said that, I said earlier in our conversation

1004
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: that this is a transactional world as far as relationship

1005
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: is concerned, and I'm okay with that. I used to

1006
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: get a little bit annoyed when people I felt I

1007
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: loved important to didn't love important to me back human quality.

1008
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: But I don't really take anything too personal. I'm damn

1009
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: sure not about the dwelling it, that's right. Yeah, I

1010
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 2: gotta get to it. I don't have a lot of time.

1011
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: You don't know none of us. No, we don't. I

1012
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: see that you work out a lot.

1013
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 2: You know where to take this? Another fact that face

1014
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: to put it against some fifty old bodies and it

1015
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: don't have me show you my nipple. They got a

1016
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: little thing under it. Yes, let's call her. You know

1017
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: I'm talking about not just you know what, before my

1018
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: fortieth birthday, I decided that health as well. You know,

1019
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: I lived life for a living and the things that

1020
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: come with it, so you got to have balance.

1021
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: No, you definitely have to have balance, you do. We

1022
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: touched on your family, but your wife, who I just adore.

1023
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: Fun fact I hadn't she is. I had never met

1024
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: Jessica until the season one premiere of Sisters. Really yeah,

1025
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: you all came together, but downtown. Yes, I would always

1026
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: see her, like on your Instagram and just the way

1027
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: she carried herself without even knowing her. When I got

1028
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: when I finally got to meet her, I just pulled

1029
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: her aside and I just want to tell you, like,

1030
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: when I look at you, I'm like, that's how I

1031
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: want to carry myself. Oh my gosh. She is just

1032
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: And then once I got to know, I'm like, oh

1033
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: my god, she's amazing. Yeah, but like just the way

1034
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: that she her presence is without saying a word.

1035
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's it's a superpower of hers. I

1036
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: always say that Jessica could care less about all this

1037
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: energy everybody loves. She could care less, and it doesn't

1038
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: impress her. The people I know, the you know, I

1039
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: remember leaving Sean Colme's Winding Spirits I started, I launched

1040
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: a vault twenty thirteen, moved them to la I remember that, yeah,

1041
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: and so you know storytime, and so we were literally

1042
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 2: I used to go to work telling her how I

1043
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: might fight him the damn well close this door, one

1044
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 2: person walking out, And it got to the point was

1045
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 2: like I'm leaving, right and so I never forget. I

1046
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: literally went and met with the O d SMS love

1047
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: her to death, and I told Andre, I was like,

1048
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: I'm leaving. I can't because it's just ego at this point,

1049
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: it's not even work, you know what I mean, Like

1050
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: I can't even get off the superhero shit that I

1051
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: got to get off. And so I'm glad I did

1052
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: because two months later I got the Uncle Neary's deal,

1053
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: so look at God. But I had literally went home.

1054
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: I told her, I was like today you know, I quit.

1055
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: I've been telling you I'm quitting. And she's like, all

1056
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: right with they paying you? And I was like, you

1057
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: know what, I didn't even talk about that because I'm

1058
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: the type of person I walk away from eight gazillion

1059
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: dollars because I don't feel right. She said, you need

1060
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: to call them and figure out this bag, because you know,

1061
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: moved your family out here. Yeah, now, mind you. I

1062
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: probably would have got to that a day or two later,

1063
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: but it was fresh, and she was like, don't let

1064
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: that shit get to date.

1065
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1066
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: But that's what I love most about it, because it's

1067
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 2: all the way it always has been about what's best

1068
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: for us as a family. And she's never away with

1069
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: relationships or you know, been impressed with the ship. You know,

1070
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: I can't. I couldn't have had that, you know what

1071
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: I mean. And then she has her own like she's

1072
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: getting the Masters from Howard and she has her own

1073
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: things she does for her that not only keeps me like, damn,

1074
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: you're getting Doper? Like how you get Doper? I told

1075
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: her to that. I said, I don't even know what

1076
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: love is. I think I need a stronger word because

1077
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: a level of appreciation and when you have kids go

1078
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: through what we went through this last year with our

1079
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: youngest son, and just who we are the people we

1080
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 2: we in first class the other day. I didn't mean

1081
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: to say first class like it was a thing. But

1082
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: we on a plane and this guy and I want

1083
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 2: to know who you are, sir. He in a masked

1084
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: glasses hat, but he black. He got you know, he goes,

1085
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: you know, he knows something about something. So we get

1086
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: separated because I didn't pay attention to the ticket. So

1087
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: she's sitting in three A. I'm sitting in three D.

1088
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 2: And we get off the plane and the goud says

1089
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: to me, Yo, keep going, man, I love you know

1090
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: what you're doing, and mind you, I get this and

1091
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 2: I love it and thank you. Please don't right because

1092
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: knowing that I affect you and this is not part

1093
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: of the shit. Good time, Kenny. Shit, this is what

1094
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: you're doing on your podcast. How you're showing him in

1095
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: culture with your family.

1096
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: Shit.

1097
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 2: He lives like that. And so we're walking the things.

1098
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: Just was like, you know, he was sitting next to

1099
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: me when I sat down, he was like, thank you

1100
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: for what you and your husband doing. We get this

1101
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: stuff though, and it's like for us we're being us right,

1102
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: and yes we're trying. The black love thing was intentional.

1103
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: Jessica doesn't do anything she's been offered Housewives since season two,

1104
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: she's been offered they want to do love and hip

1105
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: hop and land around me and my crew, Like, we

1106
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 2: just turned down things because it wasn't about that. Yes,

1107
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: and now that we're older, people are like, yo, this

1108
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: is the thing. Thank you because seeing I will be

1109
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 2: twenty four in October, will be twenty four years married.

1110
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: Wow in October, I'm fifty. That's half my life. Yes,

1111
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So you look at that

1112
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: and you're like, the things that were innately us, the

1113
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 2: things that she poured into me and that I poured

1114
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: into her are where people love most about it. It's

1115
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: not any of the accomplishments. Obviously we had to get

1116
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: there through what I did in the industry. But the

1117
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 2: light has, you know, turned on the things that matter most,

1118
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 2: which is the tide of my new book What matters

1119
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: most book together, Like Tyler, I'm here, Tyler. If you

1120
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: see this and you're inspired, I'm here, brother, You know

1121
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 2: what I mean. That's something that we could do definitely,

1122
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: But I think that's what life's about, what matters most.

1123
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: You can't go through life and think that it's material

1124
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: things or being in a certain relationship pool that's going

1125
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: to define you and your success. You have to define

1126
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: it for yourself and ultimately you have to grow into

1127
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: it too. We get lost and it's gonna be this

1128
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: way immediately. No, you know how long it took me

1129
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: to get here. I'm still. I just told you, I'm

1130
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: peeling them layers back. Yes, still. I want to not

1131
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: be a nigga. I want to not say the word nigga,

1132
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: but I can't stop saying nigga because sometimes niggas.

1133
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. Sh Listen.

1134
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 2: We all works to progress, y'all. We are. Ain't nobody

1135
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: better than the other. We might know more than use.

1136
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: So sometimes you need to listen. But you see, sometimes

1137
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: you need to need to listen. That's because I'm.

1138
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: Listening and you are, and I'll see how you're growing.

1139
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: You're listening an your life. You're peeling back layers. It's beautiful.

1140
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: It is.

1141
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: Jessica Has she's the author of a book called Golden Guidance.

1142
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: I actually have a copy of it, and it's a

1143
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: book of reflections of self love, faith, heally and growth.

1144
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: Being that you both are entrepreneurs, how do you guys

1145
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: balance and support each other's vision and growth?

1146
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 2: Great question, Well, first of all, little story times. She

1147
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: gave me acts of faith when we first started dating,

1148
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: really the Book of Faith by and I don't read.

1149
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: Of course I read, but I'm not a you know.

1150
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: I would read this book and I'm like, oh shit,

1151
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: And so that kind of started defining who we were

1152
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: going to be. So it was pouring into right, like

1153
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: and support again, I quick comes winding spirit. I was

1154
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: making a lot of money and she was like, all right,

1155
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: let's go. The other day I was like, how much money?

1156
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: I told you? And she's like, what you want to

1157
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: sell all this property and just get moved to a

1158
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 2: what you want to do? I'm like, because we almost

1159
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 2: in pian nests almost yeah, but it's like, do you

1160
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: you know, it's like what you want to do because

1161
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: you prove in a relationship who you are in a relationship. Yeah,

1162
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: don't let it go over your here and people a

1163
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: lot of times don't know the value of proving yourself

1164
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: to your partner. But once you get on that plateau,

1165
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: that plane, like when you get on that little like

1166
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: plain field, and it's even it's no more proving, it's

1167
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: everything you wanted to be. And yes, in relationship, you

1168
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: have to prove yourself to your partner. How do you

1169
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: think you're gonna gain trust? How do you think you're

1170
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: gonna get to a certain point in life together? Because

1171
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: guess what all the reasons people don't stay together is

1172
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: because they grow apart. You got to grow together. And

1173
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: so we've always been in tandem like that. And even

1174
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: when she didn't understand, she trust. She trusted I would

1175
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: get it together, and I took the responsibility because that's

1176
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: who I am. But you have to have yin and yang.

1177
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: Everybody's not gonna be able to be you know, the

1178
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: one who makes the money you can't like. Seldom do

1179
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 2: I see relationships a big shot to the ones that do.

1180
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: I admire you, but sell do you see where like

1181
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: the money is equal, but the value is not money

1182
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: in a relationship, the value is not money, It is

1183
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: what are you doing for your family? How are you

1184
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: progressing as a unit? And that's where people go. My career,

1185
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm a sacrifice all this shit what I got to

1186
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: do because I ain't no, it's not a conducive traits

1187
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: for a relationship. You gotta be in tandem. And I

1188
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: think the fact that we've been in tandem, the fact

1189
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: that she's supported everything I've ever wanted to do. I've

1190
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: supported everything she wanted to do. But this one time, child,

1191
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: she want to do hair. You just twelve hours a

1192
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 2: day gone. But she learned from it, you know. And

1193
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: that but that's how you grow. You don't just it's

1194
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: not magic. It don't just be magical all the time.

1195
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: You got to go through some things. But quitting, quitting

1196
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 2: is what people think is the answer a lot of times. Wow,

1197
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: you know, and if you friends, I won't say this.

1198
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: If you friends, you might want to work that ship

1199
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: out because if your friends, you really there's nothing you

1200
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: really can't get over right.

1201
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: Wow, that's real.

1202
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: I needed that.

1203
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: You know.

1204
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm here, baby. You know, God has a mysterious way

1205
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: of showing up.

1206
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: He really does know you really just spoke to.

1207
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: It to be three people. It be goddamn humming bird,

1208
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: show up at your window. Whatever it is. You got

1209
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: to pay attention to the sign.

1210
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: It could be kats on your couch just dropping.

1211
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: Because I'm comfortable. All I need is a God damn

1212
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: a Sai ball. This is too comfortable. What were watching next?

1213
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: For me? Satima?

1214
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: Right soon? I can't talk about that because you're on strike.

1215
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: He said that I didn't it.

1216
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I strike. Oh yeah, like we.

1217
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: Literally cannot talk about past, present, future projects really nothing.

1218
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm talking about it. Goddamn the tyler. What

1219
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: I wont to happen is uh.

1220
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: We talked about your investments. How did you even in

1221
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: our community? I mean even for me, like I'm just

1222
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: getting into it, learning about it, still trying to understand

1223
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: the contracts, especially when you get into it early before

1224
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: it goes public. Can you just tell us a little

1225
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: bit about that just for our community even understand How

1226
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: do you get into investment?

1227
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah. How I got into investment in Spirits was

1228
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 2: that I was in Spirits before I became an owner.

1229
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: I was in the clubs heavy and you remember the

1230
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: Great Goose Day. So I created influencer programs that all

1231
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: Spirit companies you. I feel like I was the data

1232
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: for that because I don't know if you remember my

1233
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: thirty fifth birthday part of the Vasace mansion, you might

1234
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: not have been outside outside yeah yeah, but I had

1235
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 2: had more Tennessy paid for the entire thing, So all

1236
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: of my best friends and I stayed in the Maasace

1237
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: mansion except Gianni's room because yeah, the dead was thirty

1238
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 2: five feet long, and you just oh wow, yeah, it's

1239
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: kind of the energy look. So but that party kind

1240
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: of put me on the map of like, how is it?

1241
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: How does this non celebrity bring all these people? So

1242
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 2: there was how to manage it? And then one pointing,

1243
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: how do we spend two hundred thousand dollars on this

1244
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 2: party for this non celebrity?

1245
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

1246
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: So that's when they were kind of flirting with the

1247
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: idea of people outside of celebrity having access and being

1248
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: able to move the needle. So then fast forward, Grey

1249
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: Goose wanted to go against the Sorak flavors and came

1250
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 2: to the market and was like, look, we have Laurente Lapoix.

1251
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: We want to get into the you know, the I'm

1252
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 2: sorry but in the flavors game, but we want to compete. Yes,

1253
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: They're like, we're gonna give you this opportunity, and what

1254
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: you do with the opportunity, will you know? Tell our future?

1255
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: Together went up four hundred and ninety eight percent. WHOA

1256
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: in the market in six months. But I was it

1257
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: was cheat. It was cheating. I had the world famous

1258
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: compound all the club. I'm at the table y'all in

1259
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: the movie Popping. Then of course that world famous thing

1260
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: happened with Puffer. He came and through ice at us

1261
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: in my booth. I was like, fuck, y'all likes getting niggas, y'all,

1262
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 2: ain't ship y'all, We're not supporting so roccacause we got

1263
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: our own sh like so, but anybody else you can

1264
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: go to YouTube child. Yeah, I just came home from

1265
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: having the root in his trunk. It was a whole thing.

1266
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: So yeah. But it was those things that kind of like,

1267
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: you know, kept me kind of wanting to be an owner.

1268
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: And then when I went to launch for Volt Television,

1269
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: I told you I transferred into the Cones Wine and

1270
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: Spirit side, so you know, Apple Sorok was my launch,

1271
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: main goals, my launch, Wow DeLeon tequila was my launch.

1272
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: And then after things didn't work out, you know, I

1273
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 2: just kept my you know, arms open to receive. And

1274
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: because I was in the spirit world, you know, my

1275
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: reputation preceded me. And someone came to me and was

1276
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 2: like on a golf course, which I do not golf

1277
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: until now the ping but yeah, but yeah, they were like,

1278
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Speaker 2: I'm investing. It was a VC group that was investing

1279
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: in Uncle Nears was like, you have to meet this

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01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: woman phone and I was like, yeah, I had no

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01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: idea how dynamic she was. I was like, sure, So

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Speaker 2: I go and meet her in Nashville, go to Shelbyville.

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01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 2: So I go to Lynchburg. First walked the hollow land.

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01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: The original bottle actually off Uncle Near's has a house

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Speaker 2: on the front. It's called the dan Call Farm. Farn

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01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: bought that farm underneath Jack Daniels. No, she was telling

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Speaker 2: me this story and all this gangster shit she was doing. Wow,

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Speaker 2: that's why to this day she always lasts like you gangster.

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Speaker 2: So she bought that. She you know, took me through

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Speaker 2: the storytelling we sip water from the original creek that

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Speaker 2: Jack Daniels was making whiskey. So it was going through

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Speaker 2: this whole thing, and by the time we got to

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Speaker 2: where it was an equestrian ranch that is now Nears

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Speaker 2: Green Distillery, she was talking about, you know, we just

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01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: bought this too, were gonna build this still. So I'm like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: what's up. I want ten percent of the company. It's like,

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Speaker 2: I can't give you ten percent of the company, but

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01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 2: I give you some shares that you will just fall

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Speaker 2: in love with. And I was like, all right, cool.

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01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 2: She called me a week later, she was like, here

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Speaker 2: are the shares. I had never been offered anything in

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01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 2: my life. Yeah, when someone says, you know, a couple

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01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: hundred thousand, she's like, oh, yeah, of course ownership. Yeah, yes,

1304
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 2: remember when I said earlier about the seventy five cent

1305
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: versus twenty nine. So then I was like, you know, cool,

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01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: But my job was kind of like you know, you

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01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: remember we did the breakfast club together for all. We

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01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 2: did that whole run, and you know, our Instagram started

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01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 2: going crazy. But the beauty of that entire investment was

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01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: that not only was it history, but I met like

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Speaker 2: someone I wanted to be like, like I wanted to

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Speaker 2: be like Andre. Yeah, and she's younger, She's like four

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Speaker 2: years younger than me, I think. But like I just said, like,

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Speaker 2: I called my spirit in them because it's like you

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Speaker 2: a cold, motherfucking drop out. You fucking like took your life,

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01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, put it in a choke

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01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: hold and did what the fuck you wanted with it.

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Speaker 2: I mean you look at like I'm talking about day one,

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01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: like they had the brand concept and idea, but they

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01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 2: hadn't launched anything. Yeah, I was there day one.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, look at her growth and who

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01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: she is, the culture and what it was. She just

1324
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: opened my eyes to a different way of doing business.

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01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: From that, Elis Cream came through our incubator program at

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01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 2: Uncle Niar's. That's not through our program, but farm Line

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01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: invested independent of the incubator program. Also, the Spearhead Spirits

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01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: opportunity came through the incubator program, which they passed on

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Speaker 2: because they already brought into a gin, but that came through.

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Speaker 2: So she's been the gift that keeps on giving in

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Speaker 2: a relationship, you know kind of way. We're more brothers

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01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 2: and sister. We don't do a lot of business. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know she is gonna announce very soon. Damn, I

1334
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: was just about to see it. I'm glad I didn't

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Speaker 2: move my mother, But she just made a play. That's

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Speaker 2: I mean, she'll be the seventh largest spirit company in

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Speaker 2: the world eventually. Play. Yeah, and that's like ironic. Six

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01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 2: years yeah, seven years, seven years. So yeah, it's just

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01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: been a blessing. And I'll continue to align myself, back

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Speaker 2: to your original question, with things that are part of

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01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 2: what I do. I suggest any entrepreneur, you know, align

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01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 2: yourself with things you love. Align yourself with things that

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01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 2: you're actively doing. Eventually, when I don't drink, I think

1344
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 2: I'll probably stop drinking one day I sell my portfolio.

1345
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 2: But I'll always align myself with things that I'm passionate

1346
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: about that really, because those are the things that have

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Speaker 2: work for me. I'm not one to just I mean,

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01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 2: Jessica dabbles with stocks and our portfolio on that side,

1349
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: but she's very you know, strategic about what she's doing.

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01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 2: So I don't really suggest doing anything you don't love.

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01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 2: I would be very passionate about it, and I would,

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01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 2: you know, because being passionate means you want to know

1353
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 2: about it and stay up on it. That's the big

1354
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: deal when it comes to investing. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much, Kitty. I appreciate you. No,

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01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: it's going to go crazy, guys, thank you so much.

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01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: We do what we call positive outcomes, and this is

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01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: where they write into us and ask us for advice,

1359
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: and we just given the best we can absolutely and

1360
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 1: says Hey, Crystal, last year I saw your BMW Uncorked

1361
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: interview and it literally changed my life. I was having

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01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: a really tough time dealing with a career that I

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01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: knew wasn't for me, especially knowing that I was meant

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01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: to be doing something more. You talked about pivoting careers

1365
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: and being in the season of pouring into yourself, which

1366
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: is something that I need to work on. But I

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01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: believe God often uses people to speak to others, and

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01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: that day he definitely used you to speak to me,

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Speaker 1: because that was the moment I felt this flooded. This

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01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 1: was a flood of emotions and a voice that said

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Speaker 1: that it was okay to go after my dreams of

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Speaker 1: being a graphic design or video editor. And that feeling

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01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: hasn't gone away. But in pursuing my passion, I'm finding

1374
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: my purpose of life has been turned upside down on

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Speaker 1: multiple occasions. I swear it seems like every time I

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01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: turn I start to gain momentum and there's a major

1377
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 1: life event that happens, a divorce, multiple death in the family,

1378
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: losing my job, you name it, then knocks the wind

1379
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: out of me. Sometimes I feel like, I'm so close

1380
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: to my breakthrough yet so far away been there. So

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Speaker 1: my question to you is how do you find strength, motivation,

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01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: and the courage to continue pursuing your passion, walking your

1383
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: purpose during those moments when it feels like everything is

1384
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: stacked against you?

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01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 2: Wow oof.

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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for writing in and when

1387
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: I always tell this story when I moved to Atlanta

1388
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: to pursue my dreams. It was the hardest year of

1389
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: my life and if I had have given up, I

1390
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: wouldn't be where I am today. But there was moments

1391
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: where I did and where I just like, am I

1392
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: doing the right thing? That I make the right decision.

1393
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: But I feel like when God plants succeed in you

1394
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: and you know that's what you're supposed to do, you

1395
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: have to keep pushing through it. I know it's hard

1396
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 1: with dealing with I don't know what it's like to

1397
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: deal with a divorce, but I know that's not something

1398
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: that's easy to navigate, and then dealing with a loss

1399
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: in family and losing your job, that's a lot. But

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01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: I think if this is something that you really want

1401
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: to do, just keep working at it, honing in on

1402
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: what it takes to be the best graphic designer and

1403
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 1: video editor that you can be. But like I say,

1404
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: anything worth getting is not going to be easy.

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01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think? I think you should also

1406
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: try and define success for yourself. I think a lot

1407
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: of times we put unnecessary pressures on ourselves, We put

1408
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: unrealistic goals on ourselves. And a lot of things that

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01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: I find is people don't really appreciate the journey. And

1410
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 2: you have to appreciate the journey you cannot possibly get to,

1411
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: you know, fulfilled all of your dreams, not appreciating each

1412
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: individual small win. So maybe try just like peeling back,

1413
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: you know, or pulling back, assessing what your goals are

1414
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 2: and what you want to do and find happiness and

1415
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: the things that you can complete and accomplish. You know,

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01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: we sometimes just we have this lofty goal of like

1417
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: we should be here or things are gonna be perfect

1418
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 2: or not, and we're gonna go through things. So and

1419
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 2: if you're present in those moments, you're gonna feel things,

1420
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna go through the disappointment, you're gonna go through

1421
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 2: all the things. But at least you have realistic goals

1422
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: that are obtainable, because the dreams come when you're not

1423
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 2: trying to get them.

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01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: Mmm mmmm. That's so true.

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01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: That is so true.

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01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: They come to you when you're not trying to get them.

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01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: That's a lot of things in life. It comes when

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01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: you're not looking for it, like your man.

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 2: Like.

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01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 1: I mean, that is what happens, is when you're out

1431
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: there looking looking looking nothing. You never it never comes

1432
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: as soon as you just chilled me like all right, God,

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01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna over this.

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I met you at the basketball game. We gotta

1435
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: go to dinner. Player looking forward to it. Oh, I

1436
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 2: love it.

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01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: I love it. So in closing, we do what's called

1438
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: what I'm going through and what I'm growing through.

1439
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: How she moves now y'all can do then? And I

1440
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: love that.

1441
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really would love that. What I'm going through,

1442
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: what I'm growing through for me, just even like the

1443
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: things that we've talked about today, I think one of

1444
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: the things that I'm going through is expanding my portfolio.

1445
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: We talked about investments, learning more about that, and for me,

1446
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: I know that in that space it's a risk, yes,

1447
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: and I'm not.

1448
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 2: You have some people that are big.

1449
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: Risk takers and then some people are calculating Hello, So

1450
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm a hold on.

1451
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:50,759
Speaker 2: I like to hold other.

1452
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: Mone, but just get into the space where I do

1453
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: have that big face to take bigger, bigger risks, you know,

1454
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: because it's a bigger return.

1455
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: When you do. You can use your likeness to have

1456
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: you know, sweat equity versus monetary input. So those are

1457
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: things I think about to.

1458
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: Put me on game.

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01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 2: I love it.

1460
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you're going through and growing through?

1461
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going through shedding some of the things I

1462
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: was taking. That's probably been the hardest hardest thing in

1463
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: my life, Shedding the things that I thought to be

1464
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: the things you know, absolutely, and I'm growing through it.

1465
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 2: I think that you know, you have to to to elevate,

1466
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: you have to to align honestly with your purpose. I think,

1467
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: you know, we get so caught up, you know, and

1468
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 2: I'm blessed to right, So I am speaking from the

1469
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: lens of I've done a lot of great things to

1470
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 2: get to where I am. I don't feel any shame

1471
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: at you know, any point of my journey, right, you know,

1472
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 2: shaming and like, yeah, shot that motherfucker.

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01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: You know.

1474
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 2: Don't have anything in my a, my heart that has

1475
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: kept me from growing spiritually. So now it's just growing

1476
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 2: through going through that. Like I said, I want to

1477
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 2: get rid of all the nigga ship. I want the

1478
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: nigga ship to leave my body, Please leave me. I

1479
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: am tired. I don't want nothing to do with you.

1480
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 2: I hate you, get it, and I'm growing through it.

1481
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: That's right.

1482
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: I love it.

1483
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 1: I love that's good. Yeah, me too.

1484
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 2: But then you know, of course I'm in my cool

1485
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 2: whip inside yello.

1486
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: I don't go all that, right, I love it. We

1487
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: did something where we say keep it blank, sweetie. We're

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Speaker 1: filling the blank pertaining to the episode, and for this one,

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Speaker 1: I will say, keep it unapologetic, sweetie, because one thing

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Speaker 1: I've heard from you this whole time is that you

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01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: you've been unapologetically Kenny Burns.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Jesus, yes, shot. And if I had to tell

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01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 2: somebody stop lying to yourself, you go a lot further

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01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 2: in life, a lot quicker. Wow, that's deep. I love that. Yeah,

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01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: we lied to ourself. We do, we do. It's gonna

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01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: be No, it's not no, it's not. He put his

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01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 2: hands on You're gonna put his hands on you again?

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01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 2: Oh twice, three four times. Oh you're still that. No

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Speaker 2: it's not no, No, it's not it's not. I'm just

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Speaker 2: certain ship. You can't lie to you cannot.

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01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: You gotta be honest with yourself. That's true.

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01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 2: That one day you could wake up is like, I'm

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01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 2: not bloated and you're bloated. That's not a lot.

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01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: Like I look like I'm on a third try.

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Speaker 2: Master, I'm.

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01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: Shut it out bloating.

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01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 2: Trust me, Trust Kenny.

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01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. This has been an amazing episode.

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01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: You got some comedic chops.

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01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying you do you want to add value? And

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Speaker 2: I'm proud of you.

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Speaker 1: I love you, Thank you, I'm proud of you. It's

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01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: beautiful to see your evolution from where we met to

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01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: where you are now, how your mind is changing. It's

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01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 1: very inspiring. Yes, guys, I hope you were blessed by

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Speaker 1: this episode as much as I was. I had a

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Speaker 1: really good time today.

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Speaker 2: Therapy session.

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Speaker 1: Everybody says that when they said us catch, They're like,

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Speaker 1: this is the therapy sessions pillow. It's the pillow, the

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Speaker 1: Lombar pillow. If you want to write into our positive outcomes, listener,

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Speaker 1: little you can do exactly what whatever you want to do.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna watch, We're gonna take this up.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, if.

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01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: You want to write into our Positive Outcomes listener letter

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Speaker 1: right into Keep It Positive Sweetie at gmail dot com

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Speaker 1: and that it's sweety with an Ie. You can follow

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Speaker 1: where they can find.

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Speaker 2: You as easy. I don't care about tap in with him.

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Speaker 1: He's doing amazing things. You have a podcast, The Key

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01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: Burns Show, guys, he's always touching on amazing topics. Tapping

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Speaker 1: with my brother as well. I love you guys, and

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Speaker 1: in the meantime, you know what to do. Keep it Positive,

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