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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season to fifty five,

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Speaker 1: episode five of Jd Guy Day production of I heart radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. And it's Thursday. NOPE, and it's

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Speaker 1: Friday September. I'll read whatever's on the PROMPTER, man. You know,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want, whatever you want. Shout out to my

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Speaker 1: boy Chris's birthday today. Also it's celebrate Bisexuality Day, Energize Day,

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Speaker 1: national gay men's HIV a's awareness day, national checkers day,

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Speaker 1: national great American pop Pie Day, National Snacks, Dick Day,

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Speaker 1: teals pocks day, yeah, and rest his legs awareness day.

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Speaker 1: Gotta be okay. Oh Wow, the fucking promotional picture for

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Speaker 1: this is like jerky sausages, but like ones that have

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Speaker 1: been like baked in a puff, like a puff pastry spiral,

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Speaker 1: like a pigs and blanket, fancy Turkey sausage slices on

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Speaker 1: rich crackers. So I feel like that's not the snack

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Speaker 1: stick that need, that we need to be honoring. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just good old fashions. Holding your hand,

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Speaker 1: find pieces of it in your ash tray, like two

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Speaker 1: weeks after after a road trip type snack stick is

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Speaker 1: is what I had. Definitely. Yeah, I think this is

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Speaker 1: also just from the like horribly processed meats lobby being

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Speaker 1: like we need to do, to celebrate things you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: unless you want like seven years orth the sodium and

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Speaker 1: two bites the pig ins lobby unload. The text for

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Speaker 1: this is so like you can tell it's written by

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Speaker 1: the people who make the poison, because it's made primarily

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Speaker 1: made with beef. For Pork's next stick parking back to

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Speaker 1: the days when families preserved quantities of beef, pork and

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Speaker 1: game full of family tradition. They made sausage. The made

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Speaker 1: American tradition. Yeah, developed generation after generation. The recipes use

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Speaker 1: premium ingredients and an abundance of love, or sold during

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Speaker 1: night whatever, when frontier families would inject their beef leavings

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Speaker 1: with nitrates to make them extra delicious. Yes, as they

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Speaker 1: chased away the indigenous people. Yes, hearken back to simpler

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Speaker 1: all right, my name's Jack O'Brien, a k. all the

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Speaker 1: other kids know how to smile for picks, but my

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Speaker 1: sons make me frown. What disappointment. You heard it, Ramsey

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Speaker 1: and Bo you heard me sons that that is uh

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Speaker 1: an AK, courtesy of Radio Georgio, in reference to the

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Speaker 1: fact that my, my kids are bad at school pictures there,

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Speaker 1: their smiles are their their way towards the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the power rankings for best school pictures in the yearbook

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Speaker 1: that I do every year. And, you know, make them

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Speaker 1: watch me and my explanation and, you know, diagram everything out. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co host,

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Speaker 1: Mr Miles. Miles Gray, straight out the fucking shadows of

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Speaker 1: North Hollywood, the Lord of Lankershim has appeared to continue

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Speaker 1: his crusade against smiling in school photos. Identify with your

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Speaker 1: kids as somebody who was told to smile. So fucking

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Speaker 1: for the full disclosure. My Dad as a photographer, so

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Speaker 1: he would want to take pictures of me. Other fucking

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Speaker 1: photographer friends like hey, man, smile. I'm like fuck all this.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I'm not the best smiler. So I

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Speaker 1: feel that. I feel that, and they didn't ruin it.

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Speaker 1: If anything, they're gonna have interesting pictures because they're gonna

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Speaker 1: look back and they'll be like, I remember this. I

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Speaker 1: hated fucking smiling and this is what came out. No,

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Speaker 1: they are pretty funny. We actually ordered one in particular

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Speaker 1: it looked like my son was taking a ship like

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Speaker 1: kind of for some reason, and he liked it too.

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Speaker 1: He was like yeah, yeah, the way. So we went

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Speaker 1: with we did two for that year. anyways, miles, we

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Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by

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Speaker 1: the bassist and organist and multi instrumentalists from one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite bands of all time, the Walkman. He's a

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Speaker 1: singer songwriter whose third solo album, flowers, which I absolutely love,

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Speaker 1: drops today, September. It's Peter Matthew bow what's like? Hey,

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Speaker 1: how's it going? Welcome man. Thank you for having me. Pete,

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Speaker 1: we've known each other. This is I think this is

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Speaker 1: the longest I've ever known somebody who has been on

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Speaker 1: the show. I used to house house sit for you

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Speaker 1: when I was in my early twenties. Your wife drove

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Speaker 1: me to I forgot. Your wife drove me to get

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Speaker 1: my driver's test when I was sixteen years old. Wait O, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I knew his wife before I knew Pete.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, be like yeah, I know, I know Pete

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Speaker 1: from the Walkman. That's how you always used to talk

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Speaker 1: about Pete. And then now knowing. Oh wait, so you

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Speaker 1: know his wife from what? Go back and yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: way I'm guessing, is the same age cohort giving you

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Speaker 1: my cool sister, Shannon's roommate or like. They were like

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Speaker 1: know how she got roped into driving me to my

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Speaker 1: like really driving their whole family. So and I fucked

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Speaker 1: because the person, the WHO gave me the test was

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Speaker 1: the aunt of like one of my teammates on the

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Speaker 1: basketball wow, whole conspiracies. And here you go. Are you from?

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Speaker 1: Are you from DC? Also, isn't that? It's our Walkman

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Speaker 1: is like from R C band. Right, was the origins.

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Speaker 1: We all grew up in D C. Got it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're all we're all DC kids. And then over the

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Speaker 1: so we thought it was like they went to New

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Speaker 1: York and started a different band like did well, and

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Speaker 1: we're like that's amazing. You can, you know, play to

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Speaker 1: people so that we've moved to Any York after that. Nice,

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Speaker 1: like their little brothers. Yeah, the album is really fucking

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Speaker 1: cool and I really like both your solo albums, but

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Speaker 1: this really I don't know, I think I think Walkman

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Speaker 1: fans particularly are going to absolutely love this album. It's

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Speaker 1: it's absolute. Yeah, yeah, it's it's so good. It's really cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you a taste of one of my favorite banks.

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Speaker 1: Really for you of a Remix of one of your tracks,

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Speaker 1: try this one on Peter. You Ever Heard Twenty First

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Speaker 1: Century station? Yeah, pretty good. You might like it. Love.

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Speaker 1: I would love a remix and we're actually gonna sing

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Speaker 1: over it, if that's cool. Yeah, we've. Yeah, we've reworked

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Speaker 1: comes to school photos. Talking a bit with that. That's

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Speaker 1: totally fine. Yeah, that that song is actually includes my

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Speaker 1: It's called Mount coff. Yeah, that's one of my kid's

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Speaker 1: favorite songs. Just across we we have a a mix

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Speaker 1: You know, it's quick. I don't like those records when

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Speaker 1: everyone's got like features, you know. So I like, I

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Speaker 1: like just like everyone, you know, your family or whoever's around,

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Speaker 1: It makes it easier for the credits. That's right. All right, Pete,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better

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Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a

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Speaker 1: couple of the things we're talking about. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about miles. You put this. Well, we're at the you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't punch a man with glasses stage of trump's defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he's just he's going for it. He's going with props.

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Speaker 1: At this point he's just like, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about bending like space, time and reality with

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Speaker 1: we'll get to it, but yeah, it's truly a swing

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Speaker 1: that I've I've not quite seen. We'll talk about TV

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Speaker 1: versus Tiktok, all of that plenty more, but first, Pete,

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Speaker 1: we like to ask our guests what is something from

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Speaker 1: your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not that interesting. Like that's the that's like the

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Speaker 1: So I was asking my friend last night and he's

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Speaker 1: he was like, well, you could tell him. How Much

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Speaker 1: Do you pee in your lifetime. That's something he could

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Speaker 1: so he's into that sort of thing. And IT Turns

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Speaker 1: Out You pee about eighteen thousand gallons over the course

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Speaker 1: a swimming pool. I thought that was sort of so

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Speaker 1: Because they say you do. Maybe you peep between four

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Speaker 1: have a sensation. Other Times you're working and you're like,

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Speaker 1: I think I get away with a couple more yes, hours. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just burst like to it's speeds. If you've ever heard

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Speaker 1: but anyways, fascinating stuff. I figured I had to feel.

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Speaker 1: I Figured Hee's gonna do something about how how much

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Speaker 1: I started eating these, like not because I'm like a

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Speaker 1: something I ever thought I'd do either, but now I

422
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 1: can totally get into that, you know. But it's kind

423
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Speaker 1: of their aw, it's like their own path. Otherwise it's

424
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: like that. I was at this wedding party this weekend

425
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: and there was this really like uppity lady telling us

426
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: about how she drove her kids around like and made

427
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Speaker 1: them listen to the entire Beatles in the car and

428
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Speaker 1: like the entire discussion. I was like, man, that sounds

429
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Speaker 1: like one. That's the last thing I want to do

430
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Speaker 1: is be in a car with you for like four hours,

431
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Speaker 1: like driving around looking at the Beatles. But it's just

432
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Speaker 1: the kids. I mean it was just I guarantee you

433
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Speaker 1: they will not like music later because that sort of thing.

434
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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, yeah, it's I just love the wisdom

435
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Speaker 1: of like any person like you, as a musician who

436
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, you probably look at your own evolution of

437
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: like liking music. It's more just like just get out

438
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: the way. Kids like music like they're they're gonna figure it,

439
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: like they'll find their own time and place and genre

440
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Speaker 1: for it all. But yeah, being forced to listen to

441
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: music was the thing I fucking hated as a kid,

442
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: like where my dad would be like, Oh, you should

443
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Speaker 1: try this album, or my mom like, Oh, this piece

444
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: of music you'd really like. But passively they were always

445
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: playing all kinds of music that even the ship they

446
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: wanted me to hear, I would listen to when I

447
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: wasn't forced to listen to it, because I was like

448
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: what's that playing, like, Oh, this is debussy, let's go on. Yeah, yeah,

449
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: you gotta. You have to take your own agency and

450
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Speaker 1: ownership of stuff like that. Otherwise it's like it doesn't

451
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Speaker 1: make sense. You know. All right, let's take a quick break,

452
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll talk some news. Yeah, we'll be

453
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back and things are not going

454
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Speaker 1: well with the with trump's defense against the document investigation,

455
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: and it seems like desperate times happening right now with

456
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: regards to like, yeah, it's a he's kind of fucked.

457
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: They got to a level of judges that are not

458
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: his cronies and it doesn't look good. Yeah, it's uh,

459
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: there's just so much going on right now, like, especially

460
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Speaker 1: as it relates to the documents case. But it just

461
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: reminds me of one of my favorite moments in the

462
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Speaker 1: O G Batman. Is like like when Batman is pummeling

463
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Speaker 1: the joker at the end and the jokers trying everything

464
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Speaker 1: he can to being like avoid being absolutely just rocked

465
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Speaker 1: off the side of this building where it's like you

466
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Speaker 1: made me. You gotta remember, like first he's getting angry

467
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: and then he's like trying to pivot to something and

468
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: then at the end nothing is connecting with the with

469
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Speaker 1: the Batman, where he is a bit to try and

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Speaker 1: save himself, he produces a pair of eyeglasses, put some

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Speaker 1: on and just goes. You wouldn't. You wouldn't hit a

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Speaker 1: guy with glasses. How would you wait to feel like shit?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. How was to stop this beating and

474
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: which Batman replies with just knocking him the funk out

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Speaker 1: off the side of a building. So the answer was, yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: I would hit a guy with glasses, because you're not

477
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Speaker 1: a guy with glasses. You just put fucking glasses on

478
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Speaker 1: to try to make me I don't know what that was.

479
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: So it always made me laugh because it's just like,

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Speaker 1: I just love how it was such a perfectly written

481
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: last gasp effort, just desperation. Just as a kid right

482
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Speaker 1: the idea that merely putting eyeglasses on has somehow exempted

483
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Speaker 1: you from all of the other ship you've done. I

484
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: was like, that's tidy. I like the logic of that joker.

485
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm also four years old, so you know, maybe I

486
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: could use better examples anyway. So trump is now in

487
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: a pretty desperate place and he's trying to find a

488
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Speaker 1: way to make his theft of classified materials seem like

489
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Speaker 1: normal and legal, and we touched on that this special

490
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Speaker 1: master hearing that that occurred on Tuesday. The absolutely destroyed

491
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Speaker 1: his lawyers by merely saying look, if you can't prove

492
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Speaker 1: these documents were declassified, then there's actually no reason for

493
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Speaker 1: me to even look at them. Without Looking, I know

494
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Speaker 1: that classified documents are not the property of a private citizen,

495
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: there the government's property. So the only way that we

496
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Speaker 1: can we can have anything move in your direction is

497
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: if you start showing me how these these documents were declassified.

498
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Speaker 1: His lawyers tried to argue that they couldn't reveal any

499
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Speaker 1: of that because it might be used as a defense

500
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Speaker 1: later on if he's charged with the crime, and the

501
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: judge was like, okay, good for you, fam but this

502
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Speaker 1: isn't a criminal proceeding. So Do do you? However, you

503
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Speaker 1: have to, you have to show me these, these classification

504
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Speaker 1: receipts are, honestly, I don't even have to look and

505
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Speaker 1: I can just be like all right now, I'm I'm

506
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Speaker 1: really in favorite with the d o j, because what

507
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: are we talking about here? So mostly legal observers agree

508
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: that this has been a spectacular misstep for trump, you know,

509
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Speaker 1: given that the judge was not some cultist willing to

510
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: bend the law, you know, for you know, like for

511
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Speaker 1: whatever his desires were, like the one like judge cannon

512
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: in Florida, and because of like all the talk now

513
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: about the special master and like, Oh, this guy's I

514
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: don't like. How the how could he possibly come up

515
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: with anything to save his ASS. Now he went to

516
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: the safe, soothing waters of Sean Hannity's show to talk

517
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: about to get his big brain talking point out there

518
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Speaker 1: that he did classify them. Gonna play this for you.

519
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: You you will here in a real time how even

520
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: trump is like funck man. I don't know how to

521
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: say this in a way that even makes sense, but

522
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: if I keep saying it, maybe it will make sense.

523
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: So Sean Hannity has just set him up for dude. Like.

524
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Speaker 1: So here's the thing, like you know, like tell us

525
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: about classification, like how, how would this all work? Enter

526
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Speaker 1: Mr Worth Salad. If you're the president of the United States,

527
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Speaker 1: you can de Class if I just by saying stick less,

528
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: like even by thinking about it, because you're sending it

529
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Speaker 1: tomorrow Lago or to wherever you're sending it, and there

530
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a process. There can be a process,

531
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: but there doesn't have to be. You're the president. You

532
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: make that decision. So when you send it, it's the

533
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: class of it. We I de classified everything. Now, I

534
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: declassified things and we were having a lot of problems

535
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Speaker 1: with NARA. You know, NARA UH is a radical left

536
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: group of people running that when you send documents over

537
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: there say there's a very good chance and a lot

538
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: of those documents will never be seen again. There's also

539
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: a lot of speculation because of what they did the

540
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: severity of the FBI coming and rating marl ago. Were

541
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Speaker 1: they looking for the Hillary Clinton emails? Who put a

542
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: whole minute to end up at Hillary Clinton? Wow, I

543
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: still think he's going to get off, though. Do you

544
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: guys think that he's? Oh, I always, I'll never, I'll

545
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: never bet. I would never put money that he's going

546
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: on jail. I would never bet money that he's going

547
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: to jail consequence. Ever, like for me, this is the

548
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: moment that we get a surprise when you're like really, now, wealthy,

549
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: corrupts people do go to jail, do they? Okay, maybe,

550
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: but based on how he's talking and even just all

551
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: like you know, his other tactics, he's really good at

552
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: all the civil ship. You know, he's managed to worm

553
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: his way out of that and like, you know, delaying

554
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: to the point that people just lose their appetite for

555
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: this ship. But with this he's just he's like stepping

556
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: on like rake after rake and it's smashing him in

557
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: the face. That, yeah, now he's really having to say. Actually,

558
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: I can merely with my mind declassify these very sensitive

559
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: documents when you send them. When you send them, their

560
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: declass like, how how much clearer do I have to

561
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: make it? When you send it tomorrow declassified, it goes

562
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: through the tunnel email. Send your screenplay to yourself in

563
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: the mail. It's sad, keyword coded documents, classified documents tomorrow

564
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: Lago and they're declassified. Everybody reminded me of the when

565
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: you're when you're famous, they let you do it speech

566
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: where he's like, when you're president, you can do whatever

567
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: you want. You can, you know. I mean that's what's

568
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: wild about this, right, is that even his own fucking

569
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: lawyers can't actually argue this in court because it's not

570
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: real and it will cause consequences by just lying that

571
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: they were. They know they can't say that they were

572
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: declassified because they can't prove that they were and they're

573
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: not about to say that in court. And we can't

574
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: tell you the truth because that would be a spoiler

575
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: for what we're gonna do in the big, the big trial. Okay, honestly,

576
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: like it's all fantasy. My fucking the stupid bit I

577
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: do where I'm saying Prince Harry and I are related

578
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: because we were born on the exact same day. Somehow

579
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: is a more sound legal take what Donald Trump is saying.

580
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: I think you have. Yeah, and you can just hear

581
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 1: how much this guy is just grasping for something. That

582
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: like sounds like a real excuse. He even went on

583
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: this other bit. He goes on to say like that

584
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: maybe the FBI planted evidence on him. But I'm like,

585
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: first of all, if the logic of having this planted

586
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: on you is like well, then are they declassified or

587
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: because if, if, if they're, if you're fine having them

588
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: because they're declassified, then how could anyone plant anything on you?

589
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: Unless you're saying that these are the ones that he

590
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: didn't just throwing all the excuses out at the same time,

591
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: even though, yeah, he's like they probably planted something. And

592
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: then Sean Hannity asked just like one question that completely

593
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: implodes the logic of what he's saying, and it's kind

594
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: of an amazing moment here. This is him saying maybe

595
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: the FBI planted something. I do just want people to

596
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 1: know that this is happening in like a golden, like

597
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 1: gilded room with like it's a white walls with just

598
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: all of the embossing and ship like painted and gold

599
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: behind him. I just think that's useful. Context like this

600
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: is yeah, I talked about home watching paths of glory

601
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: and like the speech or the scenes they have with

602
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: the World War One generals. It's like a little on

603
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: the nose that it's happening in these like looks like

604
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: vers where they're having the meetings where they're like, we're

605
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: gonna throw these people in the meat grinder because it'll

606
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: get me an extra. You Know Chevron on my well,

607
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: he's he's at the Wah Wah version of Versai. Yeah,

608
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: he's at the version, but it is just like very,

609
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: very trumpy in and on the nose. But here's here's

610
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: one of his last defenses. WHO GOES WHEN? Obviously that

611
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: I can be classified that with my thoughts thing maybe

612
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: sounds not as intelligent out loud. He goes and then

613
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: maybe I just set up. They're fighting over him or

614
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: arguing over him. The problem that you have is they

615
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 1: go into rooms. They won't let anybody near that. They

616
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: didn't even let him in the same building. Did they

617
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: drop anything into those piles or did they do it later?

618
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: There's no chain of custody here with them. Wouldn't that

619
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: be on videotype potentially? But no, I don't think so.

620
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: I mean they're in a room, room, Yo, he could

621
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: only film outside. Man. Sorry, right, he gave up on

622
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: that ship so quick. Alright, what else? What else you

623
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: would have sue a man with glasses? He I don't know.

624
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: It's just it's wild. So yeah, there's there. There that.

625
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: That whole interview was chock full of really interesting stuff.

626
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: And just to add insult to injury, the eleventh circuit

627
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: they agreed with the Department of Justice by saying they're

628
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: like yeah, the stuff that like, you recovered, you please

629
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: continue your investigation with those materials, like we don't know

630
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: what the funk this other judge is talking about. So

631
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: he's not finding like not a single decision is going

632
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: his way in a courtroom. That isn't someone who's like

633
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: a total fan, which is funny because two of the

634
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: three judges that sit on the eleventh circuit were put

635
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: in there by trump and they unanimously agreed. They're like, y'all, like,

636
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: I get that he put me in, but I know,

637
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: I know a little bit about how this works and

638
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: I can't quite go there. So we shall see. But

639
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's I mean this judge candidate Florida

640
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: seems willing to do anything. So, Um, he at least

641
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: has that card to still play. We don't know where

642
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: that will end up, though. Like you can't ride that

643
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: all the way to the Supreme Court right like doesn't

644
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: get sidebard like what? Like, isn't this a higher court

645
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: that is saying get the funk out of here? And also,

646
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: like what he would try and appeal right now. There's

647
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like legally, is that I don't

648
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: quite understand. But with judge cannon, she she like had

649
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: a new filing that took out the special master thing

650
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: that she was like that she granted trump and essentially,

651
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: by doing that, it like takes away trump's ability to

652
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: appeal anything too, because she changed her thing. It's an

653
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: entire carnival of errors and I'm going to I will

654
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: let everybody rely on actual legal experts to explain that.

655
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: Suffice to say that things are not going well. But

656
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: also never, never bet against trump seeing fucking consequences either. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

657
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: it would be great if it really didn't go well,

658
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: but it's just it's so hard to believe and I

659
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: just like like, even as stupid as that interview is,

660
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: like I think if you looked at an interview in

661
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: like two thousand and eighteen he would say something just

662
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: as crazy about something else. So it's like he gets

663
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: away with it every time. I don't know, just keeps

664
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: one upping himself and not none of it matters. No,

665
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: and it's also kind of an effective way for to

666
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: just like grind us down to the point where, like

667
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: we've talked, we've talked before about how Hitler when he

668
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: came to power, was like front page news and then

669
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: by the time or when when he first came on

670
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: the scene was front page news, but like by the

671
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: time he came to power, people are just used to

672
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: it and just being like, I don't know, like yeah,

673
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: we've what what's there left to say? You know, this

674
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: guy's fucking maniac and he keeps getting away with it

675
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: and you know, that's kind of what's happening here. It's

676
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: just grinding grinding us down and if there's does, it

677
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: does seem to be a culture, a society that we

678
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: exist in that has figured out like the wealthy and powerful,

679
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: I figured out that they have no consequences. Like that's

680
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: not that's kind of the explanation for inflation that we'll

681
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: probably get to on tomorrow's episode. But it's basically like,

682
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we can just charge them however fucking much

683
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: we want. It doesn't matter. Like it no, nobody can

684
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: do anything anymore to us, so why would we not

685
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: just do the thing that gives us the biggest advantage

686
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: over and over again? Yeah, like, I mean they still

687
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: have the confidence of honestly been like who's gonna fucking

688
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: stop us? Eat? That's honestly. You can just distill every

689
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: meeting of you know, movers of capital to something like

690
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: who's gonna fucking stop us? And if they do, we'll

691
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: bust the will bust the unions. Okay, all right, we

692
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: gotta fucking plan. It's worked for over let's work for

693
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: centuries now. But I don't know, I think that is

694
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: the that is the difference that I think not a

695
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: lot of people are sensing is that a lot of

696
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: people are outraged and are now being like no, you

697
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: know what, there might be something I can do about it.

698
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: Not that it's happening in a widespread sort of pattern,

699
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: but that sentiment is shifting where a lot of people

700
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: are no longer interested in being like well, what can

701
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: you do about it? Right? Yeah, I do think that,

702
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: like them, on my own life, I've never just been

703
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: so clear eye that, like there's just no rules to anything. If,

704
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: if you're well off, whether it's like what whatever topic

705
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: you're talking about, you know, and so maybe that's just

706
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: a personal like personal interactions and readings of the news. But, like,

707
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, like I started, I run like a management

708
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: company and a record label, as with my job, and

709
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: you just everyone you meet in the music industry. I

710
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: mean of course it's like full of, you know, grifters

711
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: and sharks and comment but like that's the entirety of it.

712
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: There's nothing, you know, like there's there's just that there

713
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: is no like, you know, leg to stand on to anything,

714
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't know, I do feel like

715
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: that is in the air, that like your average person

716
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: probably recognizes that even more than they used to. So

717
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 1: maybe that's yes, and that's why, like there's no there's

718
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: no energy for mainstream Democrats and mainstream Republicans. Now it's

719
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: like the status quo. Everyone's just like what the funk,

720
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: like you guys don't stand for anything. What are you

721
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: talking about? Look, I'm at this rally. No, you don't

722
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: fucking get it. You're just you do that to appear

723
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: that way. We're looking for real ship. Oh really, what

724
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: about my achievements that I've very, you know, uh, disingenuously

725
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: pointed out, with Stanford, Harvard Business School? What about, at

726
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: this point, like that ship, really, like having those academic credentials?

727
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, man, you you are, you are steeped

728
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: in the ship. You are like absolutely steeped in the ship, right,

729
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: like of like private equity and all that ship. Well,

730
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: but then they'll regroup with their like marketing team or whatever,

731
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: and yeah, and then they'd say, yeah, you wouldn't hit

732
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: a guy with glasses, would you? You wouldn't. You wouldn't

733
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: strike against a boss with glasses with you. That's that's

734
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: pretty much worth. Pretty soon, you wouldn't strike against a

735
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: company that wears glasses, would you? Right, yeah, we will.

736
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.

737
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: And we're back and let's talk about Tiktok. Yeah, speaking

738
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: of hating the fucking status quo, because so a recent

739
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: study from U C l a asked teens what kind

740
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: of stories they wanted to see on TV, and they're

741
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: like TV, Huh, for real? I mean you mean like

742
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: this ship my aunt watches, but I mean it really

743
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: shows right that like it's the results aren't really surprising,

744
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: given how savvy, like younger people are. One of the

745
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: biggest takeaways that they were talking about was that, in

746
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: terms of television content, they do not want to see

747
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: aspirational shows. Less than five percent of the respondents in

748
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: this survey said they were interested in shows about kids

749
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: with like impossible lavish lifestyles, like, you know, like like

750
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 1: gossip girl entourage ship, where it's like Whoa Fook, Oh

751
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: my God, take me to your world of excess. Not

752
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: really into that anymore. A whopping twenty one want shows

753
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: that deal with real world issues like family dynamics or

754
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: social justice. They don't want sanitized portrayals of the world

755
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: they're experiencing. Essentially, they don't they don't care to see

756
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: these like very, you know, cookie cutter like sort of

757
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: versions of what they see as like a world rot

758
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: with problems that need to actually be like wrangled with.

759
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: Goes on to say, quote, Hollywood has built its young

760
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: adult content on the belief that teens want to see

761
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: glamorous lifestyles and rich and famous characters, but our research

762
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: research suggests the opposite is true. We know from this

763
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: uh and our racing class in teen TV study the

764
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: majority of teams feel isolated and upset when media lack

765
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: accurate identity representations. MHM, like they aren't they look at that,

766
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: should go. This is not real. Who is that? That's

767
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: not a real person. You know, nearly wanted more black

768
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: male heroes and thirty wanted more white male villains. and

769
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: rather than aspirational stories, they want underdog stories about people

770
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: beating the system or overcoming oppression. MHM like. It's like

771
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: truly the status quo of like and everyone lived happily

772
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: ever after in their impossible apartments in the upper west side.

773
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: Like that's not and that's not really moving the needle.

774
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: And I think, I think a lot of like, I

775
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: think young people have felt like this for a while. millennials,

776
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: we didn't really have any options, so we were always

777
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know what's on the big seven

778
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: channels and we'll kind of take that for what it is.

779
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: But because of social media, it's offering a lot of

780
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: people different options. Like these kids said that they prefer

781
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: social media in terms of like entertainment, because it's where

782
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: the authentic content lives. It's there, there's not the barrier

783
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: and the UH, you know that nobody is demanding that

784
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: every work of social media it like goes gets approved

785
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: by a fifty five year old white guy who's completely

786
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: out of touch with fucking everything. You know, like the

787
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: that makes total sense, and it also like things are

788
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: moving so quickly, and it makes sense that this generation

789
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: would be even more different, for like in terms of

790
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: their tastes and stuff, given that like the information and

791
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: entertainment environment, like ecosystem that they grew up and is

792
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: totally foreign from the one that people five years older

793
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: from them grew up. And Right, like you could go on,

794
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: you could go on TV and watch, you know, something

795
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: on CNN where they're gonna be talking about, like, well,

796
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: what really is on Hunter Biden's laptop, or you can

797
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: go on Tiktok and like watch somebody make a funny

798
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: sketch about like American imperialism in Asia, right and you're like, damn,

799
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: this ship is fucking true and funny and a topic

800
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: that they won't like. It's just that it's just subject

801
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: matter I won't see or all kinds of like any

802
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: other sort of interest you might have. It's sort of

803
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: either you're gonna get this really mainstream, sanitized version on

804
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: television or it's just not there at all, like you're

805
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: not represented on television at all. So of course, you know,

806
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: like as consumers, younger people are like, well, I don't

807
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in this like sort of, you know,

808
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: monotone version of what you know. Reality is based on

809
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: Hollywood development like needles. Right, yeah, but the I guess,

810
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: the problem, I don't know what. Like people have argued

811
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: that like tiktok is bad because it has like no

812
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: fact checker working on it. I think that's almost definitely true.

813
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: was like the problem with that is like like half

814
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: the time, like you know, there's like the New York

815
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: Times doing something just absolutely terrible, you know. So then,

816
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of goes out the window. Even

817
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: it is a huge problem. Kids get there like you know,

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00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: like my like my son is so like well, you know,

819
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: versed in politics. It's great, like couldn't and he's learned

820
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: it all from social media. You know. I mean I think,

821
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: but and he's definitely formulated pretty smart opinions, I at

822
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: least coming from my vantage point, you know, like where

823
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: they're like their nuance. And he's like yeah, obviously I

824
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: don't take it at you know, based value what I'm seeing.

825
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: But but I don't know if it's any better than

826
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: New York Times. I mean, yeah, I was gonna say that,

827
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: like the Tiktok at least is like just like firing

828
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: random wise at the wall of all different New York

829
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: New York Times misinformation is like coordinated and all going

830
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: in the same direction to the to the point that

831
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: you are like, you could easily be mistaken into thinking,

832
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: mistaken to thinking like that is. That's that's just reality. Yeah,

833
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean just on paper they're they're both. There are

834
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: plenty of campaigns on like traditional media or social media

835
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: that are made to create some sentiment that isn't there

836
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: for sure. But I think, yeah, it's like what what

837
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: are you dealing with? That's different by like looking at

838
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: the two. And I think, you know, one of the

839
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: things that they just talked about is just if you are,

840
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: because I think most people are savvy, like I guess

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00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: most people thought, I know, that are like younger and

842
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: looking at Tiktok, seem to be pretty savvy where they

843
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: they don't always just accept everything they see is like

844
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: Gospel Truth. Like that. They are a little bit, you know, suspicious. Well,

845
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: it's it's easier to be savvy with those two. I mean,

846
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: like with the New York Times, for instance, like when

847
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: I read The New York Times, I still don't understand

848
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: where they're coming from, like, you know, like I don't

849
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: like like what is the end goal with those guys? Like,

850
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, when when like obviously do a lot of

851
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: great reporting, but like when there's one of these pieces

852
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: that it's like just absolutely like pushing this like this agenda,

853
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: this New York Times agenda, we're all kind of like, okay,

854
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: I know what this is, like they're doing it again.

855
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: But then you're like who's doing this and like why?

856
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't even understand who these people are.

857
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: Like like there's an like a group of people who

858
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: really support that other than the New York Times themselves.

859
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: It's like it's yeah, it's interesting. I was thinking about

860
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: this with regards to inflation right because that was like

861
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: a question that keeps occurring to me as they write

862
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: about inflation and the story they're telling is like not convincing,

863
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: not interested, like it doesn't it doesn't really hold together

864
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: and it's like based in this world of like supply

865
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: and demand, where like it's like the zero gravity theoretical

866
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: world of, you know, inflation and you know the rates

867
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: and this, and it's like it. It makes me wonder

868
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: if they're pitching stories that are more grounded in reality

869
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: and people's like day to day experiences and, you know,

870
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: what you actually hear on earnings calls and like see

871
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: companies doing, like if they're pitching those stories and somebody

872
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: at the editorial level is like no, write about how

873
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: it's because people ask for too much money and raises,

874
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: you know, like like or or is it that all

875
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: of these? I think it probably is somewhere between that

876
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: and all these New York Times journalists like went to

877
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: these Ivy League schools that teach you that you are

878
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: like a better person, you are a higher, higher level

879
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: of person because of these like technocratic truths that you

880
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: are steeped in about, like because you took econ from

881
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: like somebody who is like a world scriding fucking captain

882
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: of industry, and so you, like you have very deep

883
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: inside of you this connection between this overarching narrative that

884
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: like it can all be explained with math and, you know,

885
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: moving things around and it is actually a meritocracy like that.

886
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: That kind of eyes into your overall view of yourself.

887
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: And so, like at a cellular level, at a like

888
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: journalist by journalist level, they are also like bought into

889
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: this idea of yeah, and all makes sense, like the

890
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: self confidence that just like this is the way the

891
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: world is and I think can't possibly see beyond that line. Yeah,

892
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: we'll just hearing from like multiple journalists of color on

893
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: twitter all the time saying the same thing. It's like

894
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: they talk about the world through this worldview because the

895
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: only people they were recruit are coming from a similar worldview.

896
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: So it doesn't even occur to question what their beliefs are.

897
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: And on top of that, you're rewarded by the editor

898
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: based on what your takes are. So if your take

899
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: is a more employer friendly view of the economy and

900
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: not a worker oriented view of the economy, an editor

901
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: might reinforce that by being like well, that person gets

902
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: a lot of fucking work, like they get in the

903
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: paper a lot more than I do, because they're talking

904
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: this way and it's like any job where you look at, Oh,

905
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: my boss likes this more than this, and to stay

906
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: stable in my job, there is a certain amount of

907
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: like tailoring I will do of my own personality or

908
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: interests to stay in my job, to get the plot

909
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: it's that I want, or the positive attention I want

910
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: from my boss, Etcetera. And it just kind of and

911
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: it's and IT services itself because at the end of

912
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: the day, all of these people benefit from the status

913
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: quo and there's really like so, yeah, of course it's

914
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: bend bend over backward. It's trying to normalize like fascist

915
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: people like in the US, because, like what, what are

916
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Have a like a real sober analysis

917
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: on like what what like what the world looks like

918
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: through the eyes of someone with less money, because that

919
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: doesn't really happen. When we have people on here who

920
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 1: like guests on on the show who are like journalists

921
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: or like, you know, they're freelance journalists, they're people who

922
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: work like with mainstream media outlets to, you know, produce

923
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: a podcast or something like. They work in some way

924
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: in the world of nonfiction. A lot of times the

925
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: sentiment like that they seem to give us after we

926
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: like stop on the recording is, wow, so you guys

927
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: can just like tell the truth on here like that?

928
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. Like it like that. They there's just

929
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: an unspoken thing at a lot of the places that

930
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: are like major media outlets that you have to sort

931
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: of curb what you say, like in order to get

932
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: it published, like you need you need to be sort

933
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: of dancing on both sides of this thing instead of

934
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: just being like no, this is funny, this is fucked.

935
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: I don't know why we've gotten away with it for

936
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: so long, but that it's crazy to me. Do you know,

937
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: like the and I think that that shows right that

938
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: in certain spaces like you're just conditioned to know that

939
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: in a given industry, certain topics are just like third

940
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,479
Speaker 1: rail issues, and not to say that it's like third

941
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: rail and that like it's, you know, a fatal mistake

942
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: you'll make in your in your career, but it's something

943
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: that if you engage in, has consequences on some level,

944
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 1: whether that means you're you may not get the kind

945
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: of looks that you'd want to get into like a

946
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe more mainstream publication or even if you're

947
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: not even necessarily dealing with news that within a given

948
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: a field of study or whatever, things are just spoken

949
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: about a certain way and to to run counter to

950
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: that it's like you become a boat rocker, and I

951
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: think we still, like there's still many areas where like

952
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: boat rocking is absolutely like a no, no, you know,

953
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: and there are other places where, only recently it's like, okay,

954
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: let's maybe, you know, let's not completely throw someone in

955
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: the rubbish pile because they're pointing out systemic racism like that.

956
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: Used to be shipped. You couldn't really say yeah, well,

957
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: I mean if you look at that like that, that

958
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: well versed enough about this to talk and a recording,

959
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: because I can't remember that much. But like the New

960
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: Yorker Story, where there was there was a New Yorker

961
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: journalist who I believe the woman, I think she's a

962
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: black woman, who kind of called out the New York

963
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: and I think New Yorker is just like an example

964
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: of like Oh man, like I, you know, do trust

965
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: so many people, like they're just like Steve Cole or

966
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: Dexter Filkins, like those are some books of like New

967
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: Yorker Writers and I'm like, oh, those are great, you know,

968
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: but like everybody turned on her, like David Red Nick

969
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: turn like they just sold her out, sold it on.

970
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know more of that

971
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: story than I do. I just remember kind of reading

972
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: it on twitter and this is like the most half

973
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: past recital of it. But like that, you know, in

974
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: the last year, in the last like three months, I think.

975
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: You know, like yeah, she like she sent out like

976
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: a company memo or something and then just got like right,

977
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: just run out, basically, you know, and it's like that's

978
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 1: like the place where would be like that wouldn't happen,

979
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: because those people are smart and decent and wonderful, you know,

980
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: or something. You know. I mean a lot of people

981
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: would say that. So it's it's just a surprise, you know,

982
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: there wasn't more backing for her. You know. Yeah, I

983
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: love The New Yorker. I love telling people when I

984
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: read an article in the New Yorker and talking about

985
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: it and, you know, just practicing reading comprehension. So I

986
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: look smart. But the but they like I've I've had

987
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: my eye on them ever since, ever since they covered

988
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: Havana Syndrome with just like perfect credulity and like basically

989
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: C I a talking points. I've been like Huh, like

990
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: maybe maybe there's more there than me C I, because

991
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: they have great writers, but like that doesn't stop them

992
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: from having government contacts that they trade information for or

993
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, that does any mainstream journalistic institution

994
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: at this point, I feel like is is probably, you know,

995
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: prone to this sort of thing at least well, and

996
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: I think, I think the biggest like we just have

997
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: this pattern in the world, especially in America, where like

998
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: if there is a adjacent controversy to something that's like

999
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: a truth, it's much easier to pour all your energy

1000
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: into the adjacent controversy than to like examine the real

1001
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: thing that you need to do so, rather than looking

1002
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: having a full reckoning of, you know, the effects of

1003
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: white supremacy in every industry. It became about white supremacy

1004
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: in policing, and then companies were able to do this

1005
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: thing of like yeah, and we're gonna and we're getting

1006
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: into it too. Yeah, WE'RE gonna, we're gonna check, yeah,

1007
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: we're we're also going to really heavily invest in this

1008
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: without sincerely doing it. Many places have not sincerely do

1009
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: it because I think that there's just like this pattern

1010
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: of like well, if you grapple enough with the adjacent thing,

1011
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: you you can avoid having a real reckoning with your

1012
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: own ship. But you better go all in on whatever

1013
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: the scandal to jure is, because if you don't put

1014
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: all your energy and take into that, then you will

1015
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: be seen as someone who's not taking a look at

1016
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: the truth here, and we see this all the time.

1017
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: That happened even with, like the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

1018
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: It was much easier for the media to be like,

1019
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: I can't believe a country would invade another country. That

1020
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: is absolutely are war crimes this guy, this is unbelievable,

1021
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: while avoiding our own history as a nation. Doing that.

1022
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: Many other controversies that are comparable, but because they are

1023
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: not white faces, we'll just ignore it. So again, adjacent

1024
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: controversy gave everybody the license to be like yeah, and

1025
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: now everybody's feeling good about American foreign policy and ship

1026
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: because of Russia. It's and we'll always see a thing.

1027
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: It can be any sport or whatever. There's something near

1028
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: the truth. Just go all in on that, because then

1029
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: you can avoid having to really look at your own ship.

1030
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: And then you can continue down this blind path of

1031
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: like repeating the same mistakes while you, know, feeling good

1032
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: about the little bit of attention you gave something for

1033
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Yeah, well, Pete, truly a pleasure.

1034
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: Peter Matthew Bauer, which is what I call you off Mike,

1035
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, Hey, Peter Matthew Bauer House, I did that family.

1036
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: I did that like like when I put out my

1037
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: first record. I was like trying to figure out a

1038
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: dumb name, you know, a name, and then I didn't

1039
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: realize like how that it comes comes off like a

1040
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: serial killer, which I'm fine with that, but then, like,

1041
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, you see these other people with like the

1042
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: three names and you're like what ship? And then that,

1043
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: and I wanted to change it, but if you change it,

1044
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: you lose like anyone. No one ever find your record,

1045
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: so I'm stuck with it, but I'm not proud. Yeah, okay, okay,

1046
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: that's cool. I think it works, and it does. It

1047
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: does help for search engine optimization and it makes it

1048
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: easier to find your album, which everybody should go do

1049
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: right now because it's super dope. You did it with Matt,

1050
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: the drummer from the Walkman. He would. He's on here

1051
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: and it's faking rips man, like we produced it together. Yeah,

1052
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: it's it's good and I that was I didn't read

1053
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Speaker 1: that until after I had listened to it, but I

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Speaker 1: suspected that just listening to it, it really reminded me like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, the drums and then like some of

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Speaker 1: the the flourishes really really reminded me of like some

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Speaker 1: of my favorite songs over the course of the of

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Speaker 1: the Walkman's history and really really highly recommend it. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Where can people find you? Follow you all

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Speaker 1: that good stuff? I met at Peter Matthew Bauer on

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Speaker 1: Instagram and, uh, I can't remember my twitter thing, but

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Speaker 1: that they're Peter Matthew Bauer, B A U E R

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Speaker 1: and I'm playing it. Uh, if you're in L A

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Speaker 1: I'm playing at gold diggers tonight, Friday night. So uh, yeah, Nice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so come on down, we're gonna have like a big

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Speaker 1: party and then my friend lush life is gonna DJ

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Speaker 1: UN till late. Yeah, very cool. And is there a

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Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of social media you've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying? Oh, yes, I chose one. I can describe

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Speaker 1: it how let's do. The tweet is by something called

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Speaker 1: US Scottish bantern says just taking his fire for a

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Speaker 1: walk and as a guy pushing a baby stroller down

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Speaker 1: the street that's on fire and then they kind of

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Speaker 1: pull over and it's just like this drunk Scottish guy

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Speaker 1: with a with a baby stroller and fire. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Very Scottish. Yeah, that's very Scottish. I like. Yeah, Nice Miles.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What is the tweet you've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying? Uh, you can find me on twitter and

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Speaker 1: instagram at miles of gray. If you like basketball, check

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Speaker 1: out the latest episode of miles and Jack Got Mad

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00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: boost these or getting closer to the season starting. Finally, uh,

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00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: and also check me out on four twenty day fiance

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Speaker 1: if you like trash reality shows. Some tweets I like.

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Speaker 1: First one is from at Tyler DENUCCI. It's he texted.

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Speaker 1: I have texted quote. Did you know Ron Paul delivered

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00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: Selena to maybe two dozen people today? I haven't known

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Speaker 1: peace since I've learned this. Wait, what fucking Ron Paul?

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00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: That exactly like Grandpaul's Dad. Ron Ron Rand Paul's Daddy

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01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: is the one who delivered Selena k okay, like during birth,

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01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: during child she was ushered into this universe by Fucking

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01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: Ron Paul, pulled Selena from the breach onto physical life,

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Speaker 1: onto this plane on ape sixteenth, nineteen seventy one at

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Speaker 1: Freeport community hospital. Yow. Yeah, so fucking wild. And then

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Speaker 1: one more I like is from Layla at Lelola G

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Speaker 1: L A Y L O, L L L A Y O,

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Speaker 1: L A Y L O l o g y. very

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Speaker 1: hard to say that. laylology tweeted. Seeing a boyfriend's handwriting

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01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: for the first time can be one of the most

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Speaker 1: jarring experience, experiences of a girl's life, and I honestly

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Speaker 1: it feels both. Anytime you see your partner's handwright for

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Speaker 1: the first time is definitely like it's like where the

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01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: rubber meets the road, honestly, because you kind of look

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Speaker 1: at somebody and like I bet they have this kind

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01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: of vibe handwriting and then you see it and you're like, Oh,

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: you're a chicken scratcher. Oh my God man. I had

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Speaker 1: that with I've had that with some of the like

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Speaker 1: best writers I've ever worked with. Like back get cracked

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01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: and they're they're young, you know, and I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: name names. But then I see them right in person

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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,479
Speaker 1: for the first time, like five years after I've seen

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01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: them be like some of the best comedy writers. Uh,

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01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, just killing me. I'm like how? How are

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01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: they so smart? How are they? And then I see

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01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: the handwriting and it looks like it only belongs in Cram.

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01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 1: It only belongs in clearly the handwriting of a five

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Speaker 1: year old. Do you guys have like good handwriting? No,

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01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: my handwriting sucks, but it's like not this. I think

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Speaker 1: it was like what. They're of the generation that like

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Speaker 1: never had to pick up a pen. Basically, I get

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Speaker 1: like tired, like I at a breath when I try

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Speaker 1: to write. My hand like you'd lose the ability to

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01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: do it if you don't do it. My hand stamina

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01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: is different than like caught like senior year of college,

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Speaker 1: when you're like I will write five pages by hand

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01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,439
Speaker 1: right now in this fucking essay or whatever. Now I'm

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01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: like I fill out like a fucking rebate card and

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01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm like get me my wrist guard please. Some tweets

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying. The Moon's wife at Bookish Sea witch

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Speaker 1: tweeted the Appalachian Mountains are older than Saturn's rings. The

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Speaker 1: Appalachian Mountains are older than dinosaurs. The Appalachian Mountains are

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Speaker 1: older than trees. The Appalachian Mountains are literally older than bones.

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Speaker 1: The Appalachian Mountains should be regarded with pure terror. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. I think they should be regarded with pure

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Speaker 1: terror for a number of reasons. And then Ali at,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not I'm just gonna say alike,

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Speaker 1: off to the tweet, but they said Adam Levine's D

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Speaker 1: M s are no match for James Joyce Letters. And

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Speaker 1: if you haven't, well we'll link off to this in

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Speaker 1: the footnotes. But James Joyce just writing too, I think

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Speaker 1: it was his wife, about just the dirtiest ship like

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Speaker 1: that you've ever involving like let let me find one sentence,

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Speaker 1: one sentence, if I am delighted to see that you

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01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: do like being fucked our sways, Oh my God, James.

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01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: And that was like it gets like much dirtier and

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Speaker 1: involves like farting. That happens when he's fucking hurt our sways.

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Speaker 1: He's just like does he does he have a term

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Speaker 1: for it? Buck Queeps, I think are just fart smiles. Okay,

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01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's does he have a term for it

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01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: or no, no, he just described just like, yeah, just

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Speaker 1: having having a yeah, okay, yeah, good for James Joyce.

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Speaker 1: You and Nasty Man, I knew. Yeah, it's it's good

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01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: and it really does put all the sexual tweets and

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Speaker 1: d M. Somebody was reservicing. Tiger Woods is like D ms,

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Speaker 1: with one of the many. They're just unimaginative. You know. Yeah, well,

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01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: because right, you have James Joyce and you know, just

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Speaker 1: great author. Yeah, then, and there's no such thing as

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Speaker 1: porn hub. So yeah, like the words are doing the

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Speaker 1: lifting for you, I guess. anyways, check that out on

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Speaker 1: the foot notes. You can find me on twitter at

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Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on twitter at

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Speaker 1: daily Zeitgeist. We're at the daily Zeigeist on instagram. We

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Speaker 1: have a facebook fan page and a website, daily Zieist

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01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: dot com, where we post our episodes on our foot note,

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01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: where we link off to the information we talked about

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Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song that we

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Speaker 1: think you might enjoy and miles. What songs should we

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Speaker 1: ride out on today? You know, Pete Maddie Bauer, you

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01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: heard this track before. Twenty one century station. I said,

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Speaker 1: I put you onto something at the end of the

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Speaker 1: show by this Guy Peter Matthew. But wait, what's you

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Speaker 1: don't wait to hear this song? Oh my God, I'm

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Speaker 1: really curious. I love this song because I love anything

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Speaker 1: with like intentional distortion or things that are made to

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Speaker 1: sound like they were on tape or like playing stuff

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Speaker 1: through a guitar amp or whatever. That's why I really

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01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: love like, sonically, what's happening on this track. It made

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Speaker 1: me feel like, if you like, found a kid's show

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Speaker 1: theme song that was made in like the end of

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Speaker 1: like a post apocalyptic and someone came upon the tape

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Speaker 1: and this is what it would sound like, where there's

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Speaker 1: equal parts happiness but also like remnants of an old

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Speaker 1: world in it. That's what I get when I mean

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Speaker 1: my my thought the whole time writing is too a

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Speaker 1: long time to write that song, because I just like

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Speaker 1: would bag it and come back to it. But was

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Speaker 1: there was the image I always had was was sort

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Speaker 1: of like a like a the end of the world.

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Speaker 1: There'sn't really bad happening, like there's a mob in the streets,

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Speaker 1: like and a setting fire to things and like there's

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Speaker 1: a p a system, like a nightclub Pi System, playing

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01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: the song like if you were like running for the hills,

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Speaker 1: basically that this is where the radio would be playing

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Speaker 1: on the way out. But it's trying to be happy.

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Speaker 1: But I can feel like this. It sounds like a party,

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01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: but it does like a party that might be happening

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Speaker 1: while some bad ship is going down. Exactly. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to get out of town. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's the fact. I'm glad it evoked that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what I was feeling when I listened to it,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's great about it's like you've both

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Speaker 1: sides to the apocalypse. Really well, yeah, there's still some

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Speaker 1: good moments in the apocalypse. You know, absolutely it's worth

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01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: being like like in it. You're like, man, this is

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Speaker 1: also comforting too. So there it is, Peter Matthew Bauer

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Speaker 1: with twenty one century station. All right, well, we're going

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Speaker 1: to ride out on that. The daily Zy Guy is

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Speaker 1: the production of I heart radio. For more podcast my

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Speaker 1: heart radio is the I heart radio, APP apple podcast

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us this morning. Act this afternoon to

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Speaker 1: tell you what's trending and we will talk to you

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Speaker 1: all then. Enjoy Twenty one century station. Go check out

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Speaker 1: the album. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk to you all later

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Speaker 1: this afternoon. The first to the CONCLERIUSIC, to the CLO fire,

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Speaker 1: to the Conceilerius it to a feel desire to love

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Speaker 1: themusing I don't see