1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back another edition of the 2 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra podcast Tuesday, July twentieth, Year of Our 3 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: Lord twenty twenty one. Jam packed as jam packed can be. 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Really liking the new format. Got some good feedback. So 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: the new format is I kind of interwine the housekeeping, 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: news and notes throughout the podcast. We dive right in. 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: This is a college football mail bag. We do it 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Tuesday and Thursday morning. Josh paid seven zero six at 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. If you want to email a question 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: at Latekickjosh, Twitter, Instagram, follow, and submit via DM questions There. 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna kick it off with something that about twenty 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: of you have asked me about just as I was 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: sitting down to record, and it's not easy for me. 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: I want to put that out there. This is not 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: easy for me. Some people love saying I told you so. 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: I only kind of like saying I told you so. 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Let me hit you with this. Ross Ellinger, who works 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: for Sports Illustrated, has really done a good job of 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: covering things like the whole COVID situation last year. He 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: was really really on the forefront with a lot of 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: the information. But he's also at the forefront and is 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: well sourced on this whole college football playoff story. So 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: he put out a story earlier this morning that was 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: talking about the Rose Bowl and will they budge in 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: this whole thing? And if they won't, is there a workaround? 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: Or is the college football collective powers that be infrastructure? 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: Are they ready to just move on and say, well, 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: we can do this with you or we can do 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: this without you. Then that's what the story was about. 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: But there was a bigger takeaway, sort of an easter 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: egg that was hidden in there, And so Ross Dellinger 32 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: tweets this morning some news in that story unrelated to 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. Bob Bowlesby, who by the way, is 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: the Big twelve commissioner. Bob Bowlesby tells SI Now that 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: college football playoff leaders have discussed incorporating more bowl games 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: into an expanded playoff. Now, let me pause, and I 37 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: want you before I contenu you to think to yourself, 38 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: does this sound like a good thing? Does this sound 39 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: like a bad thing? Remember, a lot of you were 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: excited about an expanded playoff. Not your boy, but a 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: lot of you were excited. And one of the reasons 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: you were excited, which in and of itself, I did 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: not have a problem with was you thought, this means 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: we're finally going to get a bunch of playoff games 45 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: on campus, and that does sound great again in and 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: of itself, I continue, instead of first round games on campus, 47 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: according to Bowlsby, they would play them at bull sides, 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: just like the quarterfinals. That is certainly an option, quote 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: unquote from Bob Bowlsby. A lot of you wanted to 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: know what I thought about that, Well, guess what I 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: think about it, because I want to ask a follow 52 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: up question, what do you think about it? Because you know, 53 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: I've never been on board with the playoffs, so none 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: of this even surprises me. If anything, I'm watching this 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: happen and I'm shaking my head, going yep, that's exactly 56 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: what I expected. Just like down the road when we 57 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: see the first players opt out of playoff games, which 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: right now is just unfathomable, but will be an occurrence 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: that happens down the road because you were expanding the quantity, 60 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: therefore increasing the value of a postseason spot. When that happens, 61 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: I'll shake my head and I'll say, Yep, that's also 62 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: what I expected. I expect this too. This is not 63 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: a good thing. For college football. It never has been. 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: It's never been about the health of the sport, although 65 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: that's how they sold it to you. It's never been 66 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: about more fan enjoyment, although that's how they sold it 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: to you. And it's never been about what's best for 68 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: the players, although that's how they sold it to you. 69 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: It's no different than watching your local politician get out 70 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: on the trail and try and stump to get a 71 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: bill passed. They tell you what they know you want 72 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: to hear in hopes that you don't dive in and 73 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: do your own critical analysis and find out, Wow, this 74 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: is just for the betterment of the few at the 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: expense of the many. And those few are the ones 76 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: that have already been elected. This thing is no different, 77 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: but they sold some of you on it. And one 78 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: of the things, one of the bright shiny objects out 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: there that they've used to sell you on it is 80 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: all these home campus playoff games. Now, I have been 81 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: in agreement with you guys on that concept. Home playoff 82 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: games would be awesome, even if I'm against an expanded playoff. 83 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: If we get it, we get it, and once we 84 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: get it, obviously i'd love the home atmosphere for a 85 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: playoff game. But the point is that whole concept does 86 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: not jibe, which I only recently learned as the correct pronunciation. 87 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: It's not jib It doesn't jibe with what the overall 88 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: goal here is. The goal has never been about a 89 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: better fan or player experience. They couldn't care less about you. 90 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: They don't associate with you, they don't identify with you. 91 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: And when I say they, to be clear, I'm talking 92 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: about the actual decision makers at this table. They are 93 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: not you, they are not me. They share nothing in 94 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: common with us. They certainly share nothing in common with 95 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: the players. There is no fan or player representation at 96 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: this table, nor will there ever be, because it's not 97 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: built for us. It's not built for players. It's built 98 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: for suits. It's built for the bow tie crowd. They 99 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: associate with you and try and message to you just 100 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: long enough to get public sentiment on the side of 101 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: whatever it is they need pushed forward, and then their 102 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: ghosts again again a lot like your local politician. You 103 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: see them about every two or four years when they 104 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: need you, just like right now, this conversation piece is 105 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: out there because they need public sentiment, they need public support, 106 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: They need enough of it. It's not like we're gonna 107 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: vote on it as a college football electorate. But they 108 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: need enough of it, and so they're gonna get it. 109 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: They are going to get it. I've even seen in 110 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: my inbox a disproportionate pro to anti college football playoff 111 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: expansion crowd. I've just always tried to warn you. I'll 112 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: go with the flow. I'm going to cover the game regardless. 113 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna make the show great regardless. But I've always 114 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: tried to warn you you are being sold something that 115 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: is not reality. These people are selling you that this 116 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: is what's best for the game, and the playoff, for example, 117 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: is the thing that has caused the current problem in 118 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: college football, and that problem being imbalance. That's not what's 119 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: caused it. I have gone over this in parade detail. 120 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: The imbalance in college football is not solved by expansion 121 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: of playoff. It is not solved by the portal. It's 122 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: not solved by nil, It's not solved by any of that. 123 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily anti portal or anti nil like I 124 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: am playoff expansion. But I'm telling you this does not 125 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: solve the issues you think it solves. Some of you blanketly, 126 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: some of you think it solves that. Now, I respect 127 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: your opinion. It's not like I think you're dumb because 128 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: you believe something that I don't believe. This is not 129 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: that kind of show. But I say all that to say, 130 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: just keep watching for this little drip, drip drip out 131 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: of the faucet. See, they kind of got to public sentiment. 132 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: They've already floated it out there, and that is a 133 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: classic PR tactic. For any of you who have taken 134 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: a PR one oh one or marketing class, this is 135 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: how it works. They'll use a lot of fancy terminology, 136 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: a lot of fancy nomenclature to make it sound like 137 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: they are thinking on a higher level than the rest 138 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: of us. But really what's happening is a bunch of 139 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: people get in a room and there is a PR 140 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: firm there that's being paid ridiculous amounts of money per 141 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: hour to tell them very common sensical things. And one 142 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: of the common sensical things they say is, all right, 143 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: you guys have a plan. The reality of it is 144 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: it is not congruit with what most people want. The 145 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: endgame does not match up. But you guys in this 146 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: room need everyone out there to think that you're in 147 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: lockstep with them that you're really trying to serve them 148 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: with what they want. Right, Yeah, yeah, that's what we need, 149 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: PR Firm. How do we do it? Well, of course, 150 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: you have to shape and control narrative or it controls you. 151 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: Even Michael Scott in the office taught you that with 152 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: the press conference they had from the Obscene watermark. And 153 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: so here is what the PR firm tells them. You 154 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: all have sources you go to, you all have friendly 155 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: reporters you go to. So you just need to float 156 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: some ideas out there, make it sound off the cuff, 157 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: make it sound totally extemporaneous, and just kind of mention 158 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: it in passing, for instance, mention that we may have 159 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: to have college football bull sites be the hosts for 160 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: even the quarterfinals. Just float it out there and then 161 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: it'll get reported because that's what reporters do, and it'll 162 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: get circulated in the college football media ecosystem and then 163 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: the college football public ecosystem, and you can just gauge 164 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: it publicly. We'll do it for you. You are paying us, 165 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: after all, So we'll put forth all of our proprietary metrics, 166 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: which in reality is just us using the calculator, and 167 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: we will judge how the public's reacting, and if you 168 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: get sixty forty approval, seventy five to twenty five approval, 169 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: then you're good to go, and we'll bring those results 170 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: about to you and all's well. That ends. Well, you 171 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: can move forward with that measure. However, if you get 172 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: overwhelming negative feedback and anyone presses you on it, all 173 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: you have to do is say no, no, no no. 174 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: That wasn't an official proposal. I was just kind of 175 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: speaking off the cuff. It's one of many ideas you 176 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: ever heard that phrasing. This is one of many ideas 177 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: that we're considering. Na if it's floated, I can assure 178 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: you it's the idea. Now, there is a counter strategy here. 179 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: The counter strategy is also maybe you've already arrived at 180 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: a conclusion. Bud Elliott, for instance, hopped in my mentions 181 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: today and he said this, and I mentioned it in 182 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: another vein a few months ago. This is very much possibility. 183 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: What Bud said is, I think what may be happening here, 184 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: according to someone I talked to within a conference, is 185 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: they've already arrived at what they want in terms of 186 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: a format and what they are going to at least 187 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: settle on in terms of a format, and that may 188 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: be quarter finals, so the first round on home campuses, 189 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: but then the second round, third round, and championship on 190 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: bowl site. So, in other words, a lot of the 191 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: initial pushback was, wait a second, so if you get 192 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: a bye if you're a one, two, three, or four seed. 193 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: Currently with the proposal that's been floated out there, with 194 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: the quarterfinals on home sites, so the five, six, seven, 195 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: eight versus the nine, ten, eleven, and twelve, those will 196 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: be on home sites, but then the next round, semi final, 197 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: and championship games would all be at neutral sites. One 198 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: of the first noticeably and obvious pieces of pushback the 199 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: public had was so, if I'm a one seed, I'm 200 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: never going to get a home game. If I'm a 201 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: four seed, I'm never going to get a home game. Yeah, 202 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: it's great that we get the first round by but 203 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: how much sense does it make to not have the 204 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: second round on campus too? Well, they heard that, but 205 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: here is what could be happening. What could be happening 206 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: is they do have some wiggle room with that first round. 207 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: They do not have wiggle room. They cannot get the 208 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: bulls on board if they do not give them at 209 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: least that second round version of games at the bowl sites. 210 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: And so what they could be doing is they could 211 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: be floating out a preposterous idea of just having all 212 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: the playoff games at neutral sites, knowing all the while 213 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: they're going to backtrack on it. But by the time 214 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: they backtrack on it, it sounds like a concession. It 215 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: sounds like they can come to the forefront and say, well, 216 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: we did consider it, but you know, the public pushed 217 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: back so much, and we love our fans and we 218 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: listen to them, and so you know what, we are 219 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: going to give you the first round on campus and 220 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: we'll take the second round. How about that the second 221 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: round games, those will be neutral site, knowing all the 222 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: while that's what you were going with to begin with. 223 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: It is something that happens in salary negotiation all the time. 224 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: It's something that happens when you are a parent trying 225 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: to negotiate with children all the time. And make no mistake, 226 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: that is about the relationship these people view themselves as 227 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: having with you, parent and child, adult and child. So 228 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: to answer your question, I'm not a fan of it, 229 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: but I'm not surprised by it. I am watching along 230 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: with the rest of you to see where this goes. 231 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: I do not think there are a lot of people 232 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: who are fully informed on this. I think there are 233 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: people who have morsels or portions of information, but I 234 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: don't think that very many people are fully read into 235 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: all of the moving parts. And make no mistake, there 236 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: are many of them. Okay, let's move on. I said 237 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk about playoff, and I just 238 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: talked about it for ten minutes to start the podcast. 239 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: You want some good news? Does everyone want some good news? Yes, 240 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: let's get some good news. So I open up the 241 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: spreadsheet this morning that is exclusive and confidential for twenty 242 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: four to seven Sports, so naturally allow me to share 243 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: some of the details. I open it up and Lance 244 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: has freshly updated our statistics and our podcast Late Kick, 245 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: just the podcast product, not the YouTube is up nineteen 246 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: percent month over month, so we grew our audience by 247 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: a fifth over the last month, again in the middle 248 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: of what outsiders would deem the off season. So if 249 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: I were to go and rent billboards in every major 250 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: town in America and just write thank you from JP 251 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: to you, it still would not convey my sense of appreciation. 252 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: So thank you I get emails constantly from you guys, 253 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: first off giving me questions which we're about to get to, 254 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: but then also at a out of the follow up 255 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: lately has been here's how many people I've got listening 256 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: to you now? And we've got ants, we got friends, 257 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: we've got coworkers. I really love the stories where we're 258 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: just being listened to on the job, at the work 259 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: site or in the office. I know that's not always possible, 260 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: but case by case, depending on where you work, and 261 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: even if you can't do it where you work. Thank 262 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: you for spreading the word. We appreciate it. As a result, 263 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: you are about to be getting a lot more of 264 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: what you've been asking for, so thank you. Be careful 265 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: what you wish for more of me can be dangerous, 266 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: but thank you so much for that. All right, let's 267 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: dive into the mail bag this morning. Robert said, I 268 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: know you've got a lot of content right now, but 269 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: I was hoping that you could talk about the targeting 270 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: rule and what changes you would make to the rule. Well, Robert, 271 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: this is the content brother, so never hesitate to send 272 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: a question in. I do not like the way the 273 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: targeting rule is currently enforced. I don't think anyone does. 274 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: When's the last time anyone heard someone speak positively about 275 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: the way targeting is enforced in college football. It's bad. 276 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: The spirit of the rule is good. You don't throw 277 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: the baby out with the bathwater. But the way it's 278 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: enforced right now, especially now that we've got several years 279 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: of case study under our belt, has to be evolved, 280 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: and it has to be adapted with some common sense 281 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: mixed in. Here's common sense to me. When you and 282 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: I are watching a college football game, we know when 283 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: a malicious hit has just happened. We know when an 284 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,239 Speaker 1: egregious foul has occurred, and when someone should be automatically 285 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: ejected from a game. We know that because it doesn't 286 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: happen very much. Now you may have just incidental speed 287 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: of the game, helmet to helmet contact, which does constitute targeting. 288 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: And I don't have a problem with the flag being thrown. 289 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: I get frustrated because I like to see hard nosed 290 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: defensive back play. But at the same time, I'm a realist. 291 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: I know where we are. But the difference in that 292 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: versus an intentionally malicious act, I mean, those are two 293 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: different worlds, and right now we just do not distinguish. 294 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: We're throwing flags garden variety, and we're ejecting guys on 295 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: the first strike, which is insane. And so right now, 296 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: I know they changed the review policy. I'd love to 297 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: see the structure of the rule changed. I'd love to 298 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: see it a lot more inlign with what a personal 299 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: foul is, where if you get a personal foul, you're 300 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: not out of the game. Now you're on the clock. 301 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: You get a second one, and it's a different set 302 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: of penalties. But when you have an incidental I would 303 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: call them intentional and incidental targeting, And would maybe you 304 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: want to differentiate what kind of yardage of the penalty is. 305 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even go that far. I mean, fifteen yards 306 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: is fifteen yards. I'm talking about the ejection mechanism that's 307 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: attached to the rule, Ejecting a kid right now for 308 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: something he had no intention of doing, and in some 309 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: cases has to do a lot more with what the 310 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: ball carrier did with his body than the defender did 311 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: with his body. Ejecting a kid over that is ludicrous. 312 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: And you've got entire seasons, you got games and seasons 313 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: being impacted by a kid doing what he's coached to 314 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: do in a lot of cases, he's not coached to 315 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: lead with the crown of his head. But not everyone 316 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: being ejected for targeting is leading with the crown of 317 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: his head. Not everyone being ejected for targeting is even 318 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: doing anything wrong. And I've never been able to square. 319 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would love to see that rule changed, Robert, 320 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: and I'm surprised we haven't seen more traction with it. 321 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm very surprised we haven't. Christian is up next. Where 322 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: do you think Daboswenny will be in ten years? Will 323 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: he go to the NFL, will he remain at Clemson? 324 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: Or the million dollar question, does he succeed Nick Saban 325 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: at Alabama? Assuming Nick Saban is immortal and not at 326 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: Alabama by then, Christian, there is a d here. What 327 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: if Dabo is not in football in ten years. Dabo 328 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Swinny has always struck me as a guy who he's 329 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: a great football coach. Now he's one of the very 330 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: best in the game. People think I hate on him 331 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: because I didn't put him number two in my future 332 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: head coach desirability rankings. I guess you would call it, well, 333 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: I put him at number three. People, it's not that 334 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: big of vall from number two to number three. I'm 335 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: just very high on the future of Ryan Day. Not 336 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: the resume, the future of Ryan Day. But Dabo is 337 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: one of the best. But I've always sensed about him 338 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: there may be something else down the road when he 339 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: looks at his horizon. In other words, I don't know 340 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: if he sees football as far as the eye can see. 341 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: He is a football lifer to this point, but that's 342 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: looking in reverse. I don't know if when Dabo looks 343 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: ahead that he sees football from here until the end 344 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: of his time on Earth. Now he may, but I 345 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: think there is a d option. Now. I'm not going 346 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: to go as far as say he's not around in 347 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: ten years. I'm saying that could be included as one 348 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: of the multiple choice. My best guess is he's still 349 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: at Clemson. That's the only thing I have to go on. 350 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: I hear the NFL rumors. I do not think that 351 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: Dabo Swenny would enjoy the NFL very much. I don't 352 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: know about the Alabama thing either. Only he knows that 353 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: you talk to people, and everyone close to those programs 354 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: are close to dabos Swenny. They claim to have an 355 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: angle on it. I know multiple people close to Dabos Sweny, 356 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't even think they know, because really I don't 357 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: think he knows. Think about your own life, there, Christian 358 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: or anyone else listening, Think about your own life. There 359 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: is no better source for your life than you. Right, 360 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: how many times have you been in a situation, because 361 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: I can tell you I have personally been in a 362 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: situation where you've got some profession or personal or both 363 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: decisions to make, and you yourself change your mind several times. 364 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: You could three months ago look at what you thought 365 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: about potentially taking a new job versus what you think 366 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: about it today, and things may have totally changed. So 367 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: my point there is, if you and I go through that, 368 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: then it stands to reason Dablos twenty probably goes through 369 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: that too, right, And then couple that with the fact 370 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: that he is never talking about it publicly, So any 371 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: information you get about him has to be second hand 372 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: or a third hand or a fifteenth hand. And how 373 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: much less informed are those people even than Dabo would be, 374 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: And how unsure may Dabbo be. So I don't think 375 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: there is a skilled way to answer this, my guess, 376 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: and that's all it is. Would be Clemson. Sean up next. 377 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: I heard Dan Mullen mentioned that the SEC should eliminate 378 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: permanent cross division rivals. Many of you asked about this. 379 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: By the way, Sean continues to me, that's the worst 380 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: possible solution to not playing cross division opponents in a 381 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: short enough time span. It seems like the easiest solution 382 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: is to have nine conference games with two rotational games 383 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: and one permanent rival. Here's the big conundrum in the SEC. 384 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: It's been this way for a while. They have some 385 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: cross division rivalries they want to maintain. You've got Georgia 386 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: and Auburn, You've got Alabama and Tennessee, You've got Florida LSU, 387 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: and they play those games every year. And the current 388 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: structure of the league conference schedule is you play your 389 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: six division opponents, and then you play your one permanent 390 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: crossover rival, and then you rotate one other crossover. Well, 391 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: what that does is it creates a situation where you 392 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: go like a decade in between playing some teams from 393 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: the other side of the conference, and if you consider 394 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: the home and home aspect, you go, according to the 395 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: current system, decade plus without playing in some venues. Texas, 396 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 1: A and M came to the SEC in twenty twelve. 397 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: Georgia has still never played at Kyle Field, and they're 398 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: not playing there this year either, so that is unacceptable 399 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: to a lot of people, myself included. Now, two of 400 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: the proposals are either expand to nine games nine conference games, 401 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: so you add in a second rotational game, you keep 402 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: the format, you just add in a second rotational game, 403 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: or the other is you do away with the cross 404 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: division permanent rivals, so you play your six division games, 405 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: and then the other two are rotational. A lot of 406 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: people down here on the fan and media side of 407 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: things have for a long time advocated for expanding to 408 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: nine conference games. Nick Saban has been a vocal proponent 409 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: for expanding to nine conference games. There has been very 410 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: little traction among the rest of the SEC head coaches 411 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: for expanding to nine conference games. I'm not speaking ill 412 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: of them, because I'm not so sure. I wouldn't be 413 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: the same way if I were them. This is where 414 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: the uneasiness in how we determine strength of schedule seeps in. Now. 415 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: I know I'm talking about a lot of concepts here, 416 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: but it's really basic. A lot of these guys down here, 417 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: especially as head coaches. They look around and they say, 418 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: our league is the toughest league you're in out to 419 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: play it in the country. And the goal for us is 420 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: to make a playoff game. The goals to win the conference, 421 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: make a playoff game. That's what we all set out 422 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: to do. Every year, we're watching the playoff selection process 423 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: and we are watching teams be treated based on their record, 424 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: really independent of what the strength of schedule is. I mean, 425 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher's at Texas A and M. He's got to 426 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: play Alabama every year. See people look at the cupcake 427 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: games they play and don't realize they're more than made 428 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: up for by the conference, even division games they play. 429 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher looks around and says, hold up a second, 430 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: you mean to tell me we lost one game in 431 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: the regular season to what ended up being the national 432 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: champion and probably the best team of all time. At 433 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: very least they're in the conversation in Alabama, and that's 434 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: all it took for US to be ranked outside the 435 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: playoff and behind Notre Dame. The same Notre Dame team 436 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: went on to get beat by Alabama. The only difference 437 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: is they were in the playoff. Well, the point is 438 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: you can get into the semantics. The SEC teams look 439 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: around and they say, as long as people are just 440 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: going to judge us based off record and they're not 441 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: going to take into account the nuance of strength to 442 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: scheduling college football, why would we ever challenge ourselves voluntarily 443 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: more than we have to now, if you were to 444 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: change the structure and you were to say, we're going 445 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: to account for strength to schedule properly, which is not 446 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: just wins and losses, it's more of a Vegas power 447 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: ranking style metric. If you were to do that, they'd 448 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: be a little more open to it. That's also the 449 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: reason why this expanded playoff has come with an increase 450 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: in talk about expanding to a nine game conference schedule 451 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: in the SEC, and a lot of these SEC teams 452 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: are scheduling tougher out of conference games once there are 453 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: more playoff spots, they're not as scared to schedule those 454 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: big games. Now, you may say to me, well, Josh, 455 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: doesn't that counter your own argument. Don't you say that 456 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: it will decrease the value of the regular season if 457 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: you increase the amount of college football playoff spots. Yes, 458 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: I do say that I'm all for more more quy 459 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: out of conference games, I will enjoy that. I'm not 460 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: saying there are no good aspects of an expanded playoff. 461 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying the risk outweighs of the reward. Those certainly 462 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: are rewards. What I'm asking you is what makes those 463 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: rare in season out of conference games so exciting? What 464 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: makes a big in season conference game so exciting? For 465 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: that matter to me and college football's cause there is 466 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: no safety net, or there's a very thin safety net 467 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: under those games. You're watching with baited breath, You're watching 468 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: on the edge of your seat. You'll watch Ohio State 469 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: Oregon in Week two this year, probably because you know 470 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: the loser has a much fainter shot of making the playoff, 471 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: and they certainly remove all their margin for error if 472 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: they lose that game. Well, that makes those games must 473 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: see television. When you expand the safety net under those games, 474 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: you may get more of them, but you don't have 475 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: the same consequence. You don't have the same stakes on 476 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: the line, and so it certainly will still be fun 477 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: to watch, but it will not have the same feel. 478 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: There will be entertainment, you'll see good athlete against good athlete, 479 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: but the subtext the backdrop with which those games are 480 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: played in front of that feels different. You cannot manufacture 481 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: that regular season do or die environment that is totally 482 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: unique to college football if it's not there organically, and 483 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: the only organic way to keep it there is to 484 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: keep the regular season at the forefront of what's special 485 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: about college football. You can't do that with an expanded playoff. 486 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: So again, there are some positives to expansion. I'm not 487 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: pretending there aren't. I just think there are more positives 488 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 1: to keeping it the way it is. But having said that, 489 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: to go back to the question, yes, I do think 490 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: that this will answer itself. So I think, Sean, you 491 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: were to ask about what option is best, I think 492 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: there will be more people on board with adopting a 493 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: nine game conference schedule in the SEC in the near 494 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: future because of an expanded playoff. David up next. David said, 495 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: how much does Miami need to have a good showing 496 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: Week one, especially as it pertains to their recruiting efforts. 497 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: How much are they at risk of being the next 498 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: Bama opener casualty like USC or worse. Twenty seventeen Florida 499 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: State The seventeen Florida State opener, That truly was a travesty. 500 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: I was on the field right in the end zone 501 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: where play was happening right in front of me, and 502 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: it was the waning minutes and Alabama had maybe Florida 503 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: State had fought them. They didn't get blown out fifty 504 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: two to six like Southern Cal did, but they had 505 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: been handled physically. But at the very end of that game, 506 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: remember DeAndre Francois Week one, It's a top three matchup, 507 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: and DeAndre Francois goes down to a season ending injury. 508 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: I think it was Ronnie Harrison that tackled him, and 509 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: he goes down to a season ending injury, and that 510 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: Florida State season just goes off the rails entirely. And 511 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: I that's injury related. So there's no way to predict injury. 512 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: It is always important to have a good showing in 513 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: Week one, However, I don't necessarily know that it's imperative 514 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: for Miami, you know, to hang in the fourth quarter 515 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: with Alabama in order to still achieve what they want 516 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: to achieve, because I think the goal for Miami this 517 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: year is to compete in the conference and make it 518 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: to the conference championship game. If you do that, you'll 519 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: let the chips fall where they may. Well. Nothing about 520 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: the Alabama game matters in terms of the ACC race. 521 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: Now what can matter is if it shull shots you 522 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: so much, or you do have some injuries pile up, 523 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: or it just erases any confidence and makes you so 524 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: mentally weak that you tiptoe into conference play in a 525 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yes, that can screw you up. So 526 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: a good start is essential, and it would very much 527 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: help recruiting. Now it's a kind of the second part 528 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: of this question. Yes, that would very much help recruiting. 529 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: You just don't want your rivals to be able to 530 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: go into the living room and say, did you see 531 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: Miami Week one? You claim you want to go play 532 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: for national championships? Well, did you watch them? They're not close? 533 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: All due respect to you, you're not going to make 534 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: a difference there. Now, you can make a difference here. 535 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: We're not getting blown out by anyone. Of course, we're 536 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: not playing Alabama week one either, but we're not getting 537 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: blown out by anyone. So come here, don't go there. Yes, 538 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: that's an element here. I just think they need to 539 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: be able to take positives out of week one if 540 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: they can do that. The scoreboard will read what the 541 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: school board reads. I mean, most people are going to 542 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: lose Tobama if they play them any given week. Just 543 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: give me something I can buy. Give me something if 544 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm on that staff that I can sell as we're 545 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: headed in the right direction. Imagine what would have happened 546 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: if Miami played Bama two or three years ago. That 547 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: sort of deal. And that's fine. It's not the end 548 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: of the world if they lose that game, as long 549 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: as I can draw something positive out of it. Let's 550 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: continue with Noah. Noah's said, do you think Clay Helton 551 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: could actually be the right coach at USC? He did 552 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: put together a good season last year and seems to 553 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: be recruiting well out of high school and in the 554 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: transfer portal. Noah, I don't think so. I mean, I 555 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: do not feel that I would be happy to be wrong, 556 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: because I certainly have nothing against Clay Helton the person. 557 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: I love the dude. Actually, but I'd be lying to 558 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: you if I said I needed to endorse USC right 559 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: now or not. I couldn't endorse them. They had a 560 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: good year last year. You're right about that. They had 561 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: a good year. That's about as far as I'll go, 562 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: they had a good year. It was shortened, so we 563 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: don't really know what would have happened in a full season. 564 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: But then they go to the Pac twelve championship game, 565 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: they fumble that opportunity. So what did they really do 566 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: last year? A good season is what they had. Here's 567 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: the difference. I've got high standards for USC, very high standards. 568 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: So good is not good enough. If I'm a USC fan, 569 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: good is not good enough. I grew up in Georgia 570 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: and good is not good enough for USC. So if 571 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: I'm pulling for USC, I'm looking around and I'm watching 572 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: what Bama does. I'm watching what Ohio is a lot 573 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: of the powers to the East. I'm watching what they 574 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: do and it doubly aggravates me. They're doing it with 575 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: our players, But let's stick to the primary point. I'm 576 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: looking at them, and I'm asking myself, do we have 577 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: the people here currently that we can trade punches with 578 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: those teams with if we get in that environment, can 579 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: we trade punches with them? And Noah, I look in 580 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: the mirror right now if I'm a USC fan, and 581 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: I cannot tell myself Clay Helton's that guy unless some 582 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: things change unless I just haven't seen the real USC 583 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: under Clay Helton. Now you're right. They did some really 584 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: good things in the recruiting world last year. They surprised 585 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: me because after that disastrous cycle two years ago, I mean, 586 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: I thought that was more than the beginning of the end, 587 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 1: and they salvaged it. They did some really good things. 588 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: They landed the number one player in the country and 589 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: Corey Foreman, and that's good. That's very good. Don't discount that. 590 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you should. And then they really attack 591 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: the transfer portal here over this last few months. They 592 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: brought in nine kids, seven of them rated in our 593 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: top one hundred in the Transfer Portal rankings. That's another 594 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: good thing. But I want you to remember that it 595 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: wasn't by choice, that was by necessity. Chris Hummer about 596 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: a month ago did a feature on twenty four seven 597 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: sports dot Com. He talked to the director of Player 598 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: Personnel or director of recruiting, one of the two with USC, 599 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: and he was asked that he was asked about all 600 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: these massive amounts of transfers they brought in, and the 601 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: guy told Hummer said, we had to do it. It's 602 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: not like we set it out and that was in 603 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: our plan, that's in our mission statement every year own 604 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: the transfer portal. We had to do it. And he's right, 605 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: they did have to do it, and you know why 606 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: they had to do it because they were a disaster 607 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: in recruiting two years ago and that inevitably creates holes 608 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: down the road that you have to fill. And then 609 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: you add on top of that guys that transfer out. 610 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: So they did some good things. They upgraded their running 611 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 1: back position. I think they lost two good options. They 612 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: brought in two very good options. I think they upgraded there. 613 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: You're going to see a lot of those guys on 614 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: the field this year. But I say that and then 615 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: I zoom it out and I think, big picture, does 616 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: this coaching staff have what it takes to compete against 617 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: the best in the country. Noah. My answer to that 618 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: is I don't think. So here's a really good one 619 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: from Palmer. I'm gonna do the thing where I ask 620 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: the question and then I'll toss it to our ad 621 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: break so you can think about it while also you 622 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: use fifty percent of your brain to listen to the 623 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: ad because we love our sponsors around here. Palmer said, 624 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: do you think that some coaches or programs in college 625 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: football received too much praise relative to what they've accomplished 626 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: over the past decade or so, while some others receive 627 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 1: too harsh a criticism relative to those same factors. So 628 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: you think about that and I'll give you my answer 629 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: right after this. All right, we're back, Palmer, A really 630 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: good question here, and I'm going to go an angle 631 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: I want to go with it, and you can go 632 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: a different angle if you wanted to. So he's asking, basically, 633 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: is too much praise and too much criticism thrown out 634 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: in college football? I think, incidentally, you can say yes. 635 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: One of the first that comes to mind is Notre Dame. 636 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't think Notre Dame gets enough credit for what 637 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: they've done, which just flies in the face of what 638 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people think about Notre Dame. I know 639 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: that I talk to you guys all the time, and 640 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: I helped the amount of my listening audience and viewing 641 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: audience thinks Notre Dame's overrated. Now, we've gone over this before, 642 00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: so I'm not going to do the whole overrated thing. 643 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: Well I will for a second. Notre Dame's not overrated. 644 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: Notre Dame is the most properly rated program in America 645 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: right now. I don't think there are very many programs 646 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: that we have a better read on the Notre Dame. 647 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: We don't put them ahead of Bama, we don't put 648 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: them ahead of Clemson, we don't put them ahead of 649 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: Ohio State. We rank them behind that top tier, which 650 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: is exactly where Notre Dame should be. The only teams 651 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: that are handling them are the teams rated ahead of them. 652 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: That's the complete opposite of being overrated. That's being properly rated, 653 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: and underrated would be constantly beating teams that are rated 654 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: ahead of you. Notre Dame is totally properly rated. Here's 655 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: what I have always been rubbed the wrong way by. 656 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Gets judged based on the standard of Tier one, 657 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: but Notre Dame does not have Tier one ability or 658 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: resources right now. I'm not saying they couldn't one given 659 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: year win a championship. It'd be very hard for them, 660 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: but they're being judged to the same standard Clemson is, 661 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: or the same standard Oklahoma or Alabama is. They do 662 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: not have the advantage that those programs have. So here's 663 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: what it's like. When I played high school my junior year, 664 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: I had an ingrown tonel. I was petrified of surgery. 665 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: I chose to play the season with an ingrown toenail. 666 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: And when I say ingrown toenao, I mean it looked 667 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: like my big toe had frostbite and we needed to 668 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: amputate it. It was horrific, just layers of dead skin 669 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: peeling off. You're welcome. For those of you who listened 670 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: to this around lunchtime, You're welcome. I'll give you a 671 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: dead skin warning the next time I'm going to go 672 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: down that road. But anyway, it was a struggle to run, 673 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: as you can imagine. I would cold spray it before 674 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: a game, but it thaws pretty quickly. Your toes thaw 675 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: pretty quickly in a cleat in ninety five degree weather 676 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: in Georgia. But I just I learned to live with it. 677 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: And I walked with my weight on the opposite side 678 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: of my foot, which did wonders from my posture and balance. 679 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: But I remember I could still run enough. But if 680 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: anyone in the stands were to know the actual condition 681 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: I was playing with, they would have praised me like 682 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: I was Usain Bolt, because there's no way I should 683 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: have been able to run or even walk with the 684 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: condition my toe was in. But the Notre Dame thing 685 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: right now, when you talk about recruiting and you talk 686 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: about the advantage they have relative to admissions and academics 687 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: relative to the big boys down south, they are playing 688 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: with an ingrown toenail. That's exactly what they're doing. And 689 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: I think it's miraculous that Brian Kelly has them in 690 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: contention as often as he does. I think it's miraculous 691 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: that they are playing what I think is their maximum 692 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: capability level of football, and they've done it for a 693 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: few years now. But they're like me. If I were 694 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: to be put in a race with a bunch of 695 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: folks back then who also played on the team, and 696 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: we raise and they beat me. They don't smoke me, 697 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: but they beat me consistently. You could look at that 698 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: one of two ways. You could say, dude, you're so slow. 699 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: Ben and Seth and Troy they always beat you. Or 700 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: I could peel my cleat off and show you this 701 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: bloody stump of a foot I have and you could say, Wow, 702 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: it's a miracle that you can even hang with those guys. 703 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: That's how I look at Notre Dame. I think it 704 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: is a borderline miracle in a huge testament to how 705 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: good Brian Kelly is that they even find themselves on 706 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: the same pace with those teams. That's how I view 707 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I think Malzon got when he was at 708 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: Auburn because I think Malson had the unfortunate task of 709 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: playing four top six or seven recruiting powers every year 710 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: on average, and Georgia, Bama, LSU, Texas, A, and M 711 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would have survived that. I think 712 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: it is a borderline miracle that Gus Mauzon was the 713 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: one that beat Nick Saban more so than anyone else 714 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: did and gave him nightmares even when they didn't beat him. 715 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: And so I think a lot more criticism was thrown 716 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: at Gus Mauzan than was deserved. And the case study 717 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: on that's going to be UCF because he fell down 718 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: at you, well, he didn't fall anywhere. He some would 719 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: say he elevated to UCF because it's a more desirable job. 720 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: You get the opportunity, you get the recruiting grounds. He'll 721 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: end up making enough money and he already makes enough 722 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: money with the buyout at Auburn anyway, and you don't 723 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: have that SABAN pressure, you don't have that SEC pressure, 724 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: but you get all the perks. The case study will 725 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: be how good does he do at UCF Because it's 726 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: the same Mauson, it's the same offense, He'll have the 727 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: same approach. Do they start dominating AAC, Do they start 728 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: perennially contending for the title in that conference? If they do, 729 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: you'll realize he was underrated here. He just had an 730 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: insurmountable task given the current landscape of the SEC. So 731 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: I think that's the case. I'll tell you another thing. 732 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: I think Kirby Smart gets too much criticism. I thought 733 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: Mark Rick twenty was at Georgia got too much criticism 734 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: towards the latter stages of his career. And the way 735 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: I look at that is I judge the level a 736 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: coach is performing at. I do not judge them based 737 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: off championships. When I'm saying, I judge them at the 738 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: level they're at. I think about this if I go 739 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: back to the twenty seventeen title game or the twenty 740 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: twelve SEC Championship game. Those were two games where one 741 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: play at the very end of the game. You could 742 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: argue cost Georgia a national title or an SEC title 743 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: and a shot at a title they would have won, 744 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: because I think Georgia would have handled Notre Dame in 745 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: twenty twelve. My point is those coaches didn't change because 746 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: of those plays. If DeVante Smith drops the touchdown pass 747 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: against Georgia in twenty seventeen and Bama loses the game 748 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: and they miss a field goal at the end of regulation, 749 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart's the same coach, but he has a national 750 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: championship in his trophy case and he's totally immune to criticism. 751 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: Now what changed. All that changed is a trophy. I 752 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: know that's everything in the sport. Guys. I understand we're 753 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: playing this thing for a championship. I get that, So 754 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: it's a very big deal. But when we're judging the 755 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: relative operational level a coach is at, it's the same. 756 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: It's not like you're at fifty thousand feet when you 757 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: win a title and you're only at twenty eight thousand 758 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: feet when you don't, you are who you are as 759 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: a coach. It's the same with Rick in twenty twelve. 760 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: So I think the disproportionate praise to criticism ratio that 761 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: we dole out relative to whether you want a title 762 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: or not. That in reality just comes down to a 763 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 1: bounce of the ball here and there. I think that's 764 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 1: all out of whack too. Next up is Robert, He said, 765 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: will nil and make my LSU season ticket prices go up? 766 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: Geaux up and unaffordable like the NFL ticket prices. I'm 767 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: not sure that will happen, Robert. Now I'm interested where 768 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: you're going with that. Here's one school of thought. Now, 769 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer is to this. You 770 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: guys can tell me what you think the answer is. 771 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: So Roberts asking, will nil make my season ticket prices 772 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: go up? Now, you may be thinking to yourself as 773 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: you're driving around, where are we driving today? If you're 774 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: driving around in Richmond, Virginia, or you're driving around in Lubbock, Texas, 775 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: Go Red Raiders, or maybe you're in ewen alabamaw in Alabama. 776 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: If you want to do some fascinating research, why don't 777 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: you google Ewan Gui in Alabama. Really small town, it's 778 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: about it's a little ways north of Tuscaloosa. It's south 779 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: of Muscle Shoals or Mussholls. As we've documented on this show. 780 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: Research the youw in Alabama tornado from the super Outbreak 781 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: of nineteen seventy four. There are people out there who 782 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: think it may have been the strongest tornado in the 783 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: continental United States history. We just don't have a way 784 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: to accurately measure that, because again, it happened in nineteen 785 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: seventy four. But anyway, wherever you're listening, thank you. So 786 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: maybe you're riding around in those towns or any other 787 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 1: town or overseas because we have a lot of international listeners. 788 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: Let's get back on track here, and you're thinking to yourself, 789 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: how could NIL affect ticket prices? Here's one school of 790 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: thought that we It's still too early, so I don't 791 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: know if this is the way it's going to go. 792 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: But one school of thought is as NIL becomes a thing, 793 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: then a lot of these big companies that right now 794 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: advertise in the stadium. You see a lot of billboards, 795 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: a lot of banners, a lot of ad reads over 796 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: the PA system in the stadium. What if they take 797 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: those advertising dollars and what they would have spent with 798 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 1: the school they now spend it directly with the athlete. Well, 799 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: the university, it stands to reason, has to make up 800 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: that lost revenue somehow, So what if they choose to 801 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: jack up ticket prices. I don't think it's out of 802 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: the realm of possibility, Robert, But I don't think that's 803 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: the way it's going to go either. The way I 804 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: think this is going to go is I think the 805 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: bigger corporate sponsors like Golden Flake Potato Chips, or Coca 806 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: Cola or Ford. I mean that big money that's always 807 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: partnered with the school. I think it always will partner 808 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: with the school. Ditto for the broadcast you watch. I 809 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: think AFLAC is always going to be AFLAC across litany 810 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: of college football broadcast. What I think this does is 811 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: it opens the door for more Tier three, tier four, 812 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: Tier five type advertising companies, companies that you never would 813 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: have seen because they never could afford from an advertising perspective, 814 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: to sit at the college football table. I do not 815 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: think this is going to be a big thing, No, Robert. 816 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't think your season tickets are going up unless 817 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: LSU just decides to jack it up. And speaking of which, 818 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: from Death Valley to Death Valley, Brennan says a couple 819 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: he has three questions here, so I'm going to rapid 820 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: fire him do you believe Clemson's best days are yet 821 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: to come? I believe we're right in the middle of 822 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: Clemson's best days. I cannot look back in the rearview 823 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: mirror and see two titles and say it'll get better. 824 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: But I'm certainly not looking ahead and saying, oh, I 825 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: see worst things on the horizon. I talked about this 826 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: a lot on the Sunday Show. If you guys didn't 827 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: see that, I would encourage you to go to the 828 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: twenty four seven Sports YouTube channel. Find it, and by 829 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: the way, subscribe while you're there. Still sixty eight percent 830 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: of our viewers are not subscribed, so you're watching but 831 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: not subscribing. I'm probably speaking to the choir here, but 832 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: if you know anyone who hasn't hack into their computer, 833 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: do what you have to do. Subscribe to the channel. 834 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: Because we are pushing rapidly towards sixty thousand. So again, 835 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: it just helps us do more of what you want 836 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: us to do. The better our numbers gift. The second 837 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: thing Brennan asked, is well, a Clemson player ever won 838 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: the Heisman. Yes, there's no skill in predicting it, but 839 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: yes I think they will. And the third one is 840 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: why is nobody talking about Clemson being one snap away 841 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: from disaster this year. Now, this Brennan is an underrated 842 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: aspect of your submission and an under reported aspect of 843 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: the entire college football picture this year, the ACC, the 844 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: College Football Play Off, everything. Dj Uyangili Lay is the 845 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,720 Speaker 1: guy at the forefront. He's the starting quarterback for Clemson, 846 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: There's no question about that. But behind him, they got 847 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: little to nothing in terms of proven experience. And I 848 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: don't think it's the depth situation that Oklahoma has, for example, 849 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: where if Spencer Rattler gets a hangnail, well we got 850 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams ready to go. That's only the number one 851 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: quarterback in the country from this last cycle. Who a 852 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: lot of people don't look the best out of the 853 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: two in the spring game. No quarterback controversy, mind you, 854 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: just they have a very enviable depth situation. Ohio State 855 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: has that for example. I think Ja Milrow will rapidly 856 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: rise up the ranks at Alabama. Keep an eye on 857 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: that name in the future. So some of those other 858 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: contending perennial contender type teams, they have quarterbacks that in 859 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: an emergency situation they would be comfortable with, especially at 860 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: Ou and Ohio State at Clemson, they don't have that. 861 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 1: So what Brennan's saying is you could turn the TV 862 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: on and then you could go in the kitchen to 863 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: grab a snack, and you come back in and again, 864 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: we don't have a root for injury. I don't like 865 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: talking about it, but if it were to happen, because 866 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: it's part of the game, that is your season. I 867 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: mean that alters clums and season. But also think about 868 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: what else it does. I mean that opens the door 869 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: in the ACC because at that point there would be 870 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 1: other contenders in the ACC. So, yes, this is something 871 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: to pay attention to. It also asks and even begs 872 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: the question, does that change the way they use DJ? 873 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: He is a mat truck, he's a tank, so you 874 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: would think, I mean, we would use his legs some 875 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: and we would use the ability to fall forward. I 876 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: remember Cam Newton, brilliant used to be able to do that. 877 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: He was just physically superior. And so even if you 878 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: stuffed him at the line of scrimmage or so you thought, well, 879 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: he ends up gaining three yards when the pile cleans 880 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: up because he fell forward. Every play. All DJ's got 881 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: to do is fall forward half the time, Well, how 882 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: comfortable are you doing that when you know what the 883 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: risk is because it's disproportionately high for Clemson this year. 884 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: So that is Brendan absolutely something to pay attention to. 885 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: Here's another thing to pay attention to. Make sure you're 886 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: following Twitter and Instagram at Late Kick, Josh. The numbers 887 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: are spiking there. Our numbers are spiking everywhere, and I 888 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: know why, and I thank you for it. And it's 889 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: only going to ramp up tenfold, well maybe not exactly tenfold, 890 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: maybe fivefold once we get into August. Beat the rush, 891 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 1: do it? Now? Let me tell you what we have coming. 892 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: We have some things coming. I can't tell you quite yet. 893 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: You will know when they happen, though. They're all going 894 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: to be good. It's nothing bad. So there's that, and 895 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: that's about all I can tell you. So you're welcome. 896 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: But then the other thing we have is we're about 897 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: to take Late Kick Live to three days a week. 898 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: That's probably happening in the first week of August, so 899 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: that's not far away, and so we'll have that. I'm 900 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: still trying to figure out how I want to do 901 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: the Q and A. I think I'll still do a 902 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: Thursday mail Bag. But I'm toying with a couple of 903 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: different ideas, so I'll tell you what you guys, let 904 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: me know. If you have an idea for how you'd 905 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: like to see the week structured, let me know right now. 906 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: As you know, I do Sunday Night and Thursday Night Live, 907 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: so you get it Monday morning as a podcast and 908 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: Friday morning as a podcast, and then Tuesday and Thursday mornings. 909 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: I've been doing the mail Bag, which you're listening to 910 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: right now, which is just podcast. You have to be 911 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: here or you don't get it well. Once we add 912 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: in the Tuesday show, that literally means you're getting something 913 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: every morning. So Monday morning, if you're looking at the 914 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 1: podcast feed, you have last night's replay, Tuesday Morning mail Bag, 915 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, Tuesday Night's replay, Thursday Morning mail Bag, Friday morning, 916 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 1: Thursday Night's replay. So it works out that way. That's 917 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: the way we did it last year. People seemed happy 918 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: with it. Is that the way we want to do 919 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: it this year? Or is there another product that you 920 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: would like to see one week that replaces one of 921 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: those mail bags? Do you want the Thursday Night Live 922 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: show on YouTube to be a mailbag. There are many 923 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: different things we can do with that. I'm very interested 924 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: to get some feedback and we call it good old 925 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: fashioned market research. And the other thing. To keep in mind, 926 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,439 Speaker 1: I might as well putting out this call to action now. 927 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: There were about a dozen of you last year that 928 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: had emailed me and said, hey, if you ever have 929 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: anything that you need help with for the show, I 930 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: would like to make myself available. I know it's not 931 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: a paid spot or anything. I just like to participate 932 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: in some shape form or fashion. If you're interested in 933 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: doing that, email me. I'm not going to put the 934 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: rolls out there publicly. Those of you who participated last 935 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: year know what we're talking about here. There are some 936 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: things that I have to have done week to week. 937 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: They're pretty involved. You do get a little behind the scenes, 938 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: behind the curtain peak of the show, but it helps out. 939 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: But I only need serious candidates. I only need people 940 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 1: who know that they have a couple of hours every 941 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: week that they can dedicate to this and they do 942 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: it the entire season. So if you want to potentially 943 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: get involved with that, hit me up. If you're in 944 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: anything from data and statistics to just loving research to hey, 945 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: I watch the games anyway, I might as well do 946 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: something while I'm watching them. And if you watch every 947 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: episode of Late Kick, any of you who fit those 948 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: descriptions email me Josh pat seven zero six at gmail 949 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: dot com. That's about a wrap for us here. I'm 950 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: about to send this off to Jordan. He'll get a 951 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: cut up sent out to you. Thank you so much 952 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: for listening. This has been the Late Kick Extra podcast. 953 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm Josh, Babe, God blessed. Have a great rest of 954 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: your day.