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Speaker 1: Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us. We have got

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Speaker 1: a fun show headed your direction. A lot of breaking

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Speaker 1: news out there in the last twenty four hours or so.

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Speaker 1: We will put it all into context for you. Much

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Speaker 1: to discuss. But two stories that are absolutely at the

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Speaker 1: apex right now. Number one, Biden in a sign and

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Speaker 1: we're going to dive into this in real detail, that

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Speaker 1: his poll numbers in Michigan in particular must be really bad.

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Speaker 1: In an interview with CNN's Aaron Burnett said that he

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Speaker 1: would withhold supplies military supplies from Israel if they decide

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Speaker 1: to go into Rafa after the remaining Hamas terrorists, as

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Speaker 1: well as to try to save hostages there. Potentially also

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Speaker 1: plus on the witness stand right now, potentially just ended

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Speaker 1: in the last twenty minutes or so, Stormy Daniels being

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Speaker 1: cross examined in New York City by Donald Trump's attorneys

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Speaker 1: in the business records trial brought by Alvin Bragg in

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Speaker 1: New York City. But first, let's start with a major

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Speaker 1: consequential statement from Joe Biden in a rare sit down

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Speaker 1: interview with CNN's Aaron Burnett. He was up in Wisconsin campaigning.

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Speaker 1: We know, based on the polls that Biden has to

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Speaker 1: sweep Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin in order to win the presidency,

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Speaker 1: and that it has been increasingly difficult for him to

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Speaker 1: walk the fine line between Arab and Israeli issues, both

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Speaker 1: of which are big parts of his Identity Politics coalition.

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Speaker 1: So he effectively came out and turned his back on

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Speaker 1: Israel and their ability to defend themselves against Tomas with

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Speaker 1: this statement to Aaron Burnett. Here is what he said.

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Speaker 1: It is ricocheting around the world and has made major news.

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Speaker 2: Listen, what they're doing right now in Rafa. Is that

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Speaker 2: not going into Rafa as you don't.

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Speaker 3: They haven't gotten in the population centers, but they did

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Speaker 3: us right on the border, and it's causing problems with

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Speaker 3: right now in terms of each of which I've worked

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Speaker 3: very hard make sure we have a relationship and help.

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Speaker 3: But I've made it clear to BB in the work

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Speaker 3: fact they've gone these population centers. We're not walking away

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Speaker 3: from Israel's security, walking away Israel's ability to wage or

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Speaker 3: in those areas.

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Speaker 2: So it's not over your redline.

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Speaker 3: Yet, not yet, but it's we've held up the weapons.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they've held up the weapons. This is what they impeached,

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Speaker 1: effectively Trump for when he called Ukraine and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: I need you to do X or Y in order

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Speaker 1: for you to get the congressionally mandated. Congress has said

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Speaker 1: the money is there. You may or may not have issues.

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Speaker 1: And I understand those of you out there who say

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Speaker 1: this is not our issue. I don't know why we're

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Speaker 1: giving any support supplies. I understand that argument. But Biden

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Speaker 1: claimed from the get go, Israel has the right to

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Speaker 1: defend itself and go after the terrorist who attacked and

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Speaker 1: killed twelve hundred innocent Israelis. Remember there are still five

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Speaker 1: American hostages held buck and we're trying to still get

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Speaker 1: those people back, at least some of us are. What's

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Speaker 1: your reaction when you hear effectively Biden turned his back

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Speaker 1: on Israel and their ability to go into Rafa.

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Speaker 4: I think it's worse than that. I think it's a

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Speaker 4: knife in the back, and it is something that we

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Speaker 4: have been expecting. I think all along as the political

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Speaker 4: pressure has mounted. Understand Joe Biden is very, very stupid,

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Speaker 4: but he also has an understanding of the political wins.

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Speaker 4: That's really his only skill. He will say whatever and

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Speaker 4: do whatever is of most benefit to Joe Biden in

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Speaker 4: the moment, and has absolutely no shame about it whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: So you look at what's really going on here, and

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Speaker 4: it is a maybe one hundred thousand person voter block

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Speaker 4: in Michigan and maybe a couple of other states. Let's

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Speaker 4: say it's one hundred thousand Muslim American voters who are

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Speaker 4: pissed off about what's going on in Gaza are basically

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Speaker 4: pulling the chain on Biden, you know, and saying you're

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Speaker 4: going to do this. And then Biden is knifeing Israel

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Speaker 4: in the back because he's worried about his political constituency

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Speaker 4: here at home that he needs to win the twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four election. So the power, I have to say,

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Speaker 4: the Democrat coalition, such as it is, always involves a

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Speaker 4: lot of well, yes, inconsistency, but also betraying one part

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Speaker 4: now now what you have is all the women's right

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Speaker 4: so it doesn't make any sense. It's incoherent. But I

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Speaker 4: didn't think that they would be willing to sew clear.

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Speaker 4: It's been moving in this direction, but initially I didn't

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Speaker 4: think they'd be so willing to take an action here.

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Speaker 4: Now I will say, my guess is that Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: that they will give them the munitions. My guess is

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Speaker 4: because the other part of this is what do they

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Speaker 4: phase of it. They may say, well, we want more

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Speaker 4: protections for civilians or something like that. You see what

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Speaker 4: I mean. Biden knows he's got to do something so

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Speaker 4: that he can give some He can play kate the

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Speaker 4: Let's be honest, A lot of people that are really

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Speaker 4: upset about this are anti Semites, but you know some

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Speaker 4: of these Muslim American voters in Michigan. To playcate them,

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Speaker 4: and this gives him something to work with. But I

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Speaker 4: don't think he's going to be able to hold on

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Speaker 1: So I would love to hear from Jewish listeners right

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Speaker 1: now eight hundred and two two two eight a two

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Speaker 1: because to me, Buck, what this seems to be basically

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Speaker 1: saying is I don't think Jewish voters will leave me

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Speaker 1: will leave me over this issue. So effectively, he's taking

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Speaker 1: Jewish support for granted and saying, yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 1: you're still showing up. I'm afraid the Arab voters won't.

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Speaker 1: That's the political calculus here, because you have he's picking aside.

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Speaker 1: You may be right, he may be trying to finagle it,

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Speaker 1: and maybe he walks it back and maybe he does

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Speaker 1: something different. But if I'm Jewish and I believe Israel

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Speaker 1: has a right to exist and defend itself, and I'm

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Speaker 1: a traditional Democrat voter, this is my red line. I

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Speaker 1: might not vote for Trump, but I might not vote

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Speaker 4: So this is where the remember it's all multiple moving

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Speaker 4: pieces and intersecting and interlocking realities. This has been brought

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Speaker 4: to my attention as I live here in South Beach

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Speaker 4: clay My where I live my building I know everyone

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Speaker 4: is Jewish, but carrying me yep. So I talked to

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Speaker 4: a lot of my Jewish neighbors about how they view this,

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Speaker 4: and you know, we have dinners. And I was at

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Speaker 4: the Jews who have not yet voted Trump are still

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Speaker 4: very So that's you know, our we have a lot

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Speaker 4: of Jewish sixty five percent of the Jews have not

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Speaker 4: other thirty five percent, you know, they're listening to us

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Speaker 4: who don't, they're probably not going to switch to Trump.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you and I've talked about this. I've said less

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Speaker 4: that's our bet, right, But I hadn't thought about this.

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Speaker 4: They may decide to vote RFK Junior or or some

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Speaker 4: and maybe that's enough. But here's the thing Biden knows

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Speaker 4: without without Muslim votes in Dearborn he loses Michigan. And

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Speaker 4: now I don't know if Jewish votes in Pennsylvania, he

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Speaker 4: loses Pennsylvania. He may not be thinking about it that way,

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Speaker 4: but they've been. There's been enough noise made about this

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Speaker 4: is a conflict thousands of miles away. Yes, and what

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Speaker 4: Michigan thinks of this issue is dictating the way that

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Speaker 4: but both of them in text with me said, Biden

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Speaker 4: lost my vote tonight, meaning last night, will you will

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Speaker 4: you just remember this moment because I want you after

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Speaker 4: tell them. You know, my co host said that you

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Speaker 4: your mind and vote Biden again. Because I just I've

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Speaker 4: before it's may, I think we'll go back. I think

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Speaker 4: I hope they don't, and if they don't, welcome And

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Speaker 4: We've been having this conversation for a while because I think,

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Speaker 1: I I think that these conversations that are taking place

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Speaker 1: his calculus is air voters are going to actually hold

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Speaker 4: Up, there's I mean, look, this is something that the

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Speaker 4: And I remember this from when I started out just

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Speaker 4: high school, as all badasses do. That's how do you

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Speaker 4: think I got all the ladies? Clay? I was like,

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Speaker 4: have you read Professor Cook from Princeton Short biography of

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Speaker 4: Mohammed as well.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, this is what my sixteen year old

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Speaker 1: So I think it is very funny. But uh, and

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Speaker 4: They're they're all about it. They're all about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And Biden's betting that there are a lot of those

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Speaker 7: Eighty years ago in the Holocaust, the Jewish people were

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Speaker 7: no amount of pressure, no decision by any international forum,

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Speaker 7: here today from Jerusalem and this Holocaust Remembrance date. If

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Speaker 4: There you have the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin net Yahoo,

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Speaker 5: Bucket's always a pleasure to be with you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: So buck and I have talked a great deal. Appreciate

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Speaker 5: You know, it may very well continue. I mean, it

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Speaker 5: Everybody understands that the world is better off without hamas.

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Speaker 4: We're speaking of David Affoon, publisher of the New York Son.

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Speaker 4: You can go to nysun dot com. They're doing great

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Speaker 4: work over there. And David, you know, I've known you. God,

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Speaker 5: Well, I think there really is. I mean, the changes

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Speaker 1: do you think his calculus would be substantially different than

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Speaker 1: in how he was playing this? In other words, how

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Speaker 1: much of this is Biden knows he doesn't get reelected

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Speaker 1: if he loses Michigan, and so he's willing to turn

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Speaker 1: than the Arab voter might be. I mean to me again,

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Speaker 1: there's a moral and a political calculus here. I think

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Speaker 1: Biden's wrong on the moral, But is he right on

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Speaker 1: the political? As you analyze it?

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Speaker 5: You know, whoever is giving him advice on the political

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Speaker 5: you know it?

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Speaker 8: Does?

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Speaker 5: You know? I think is making a grave mistakes on

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Speaker 5: a few accounts. First of all, I think it's a

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Speaker 5: what he thinks of the politics, and he says, I'm

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Speaker 5: all in for Trump. You know, I'm interested in conservative values,

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Speaker 5: traditional values in the economy. So I think to begin with,

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Speaker 5: you know, more traditional Muslims are going to see a

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Speaker 5: the first point that I would make on this score.

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Speaker 5: The second point is, you know, at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, it is true that in Michigan the Muslim

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Speaker 5: vote outnumbers the Jewish votes considerably, But Michigan has ten

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Speaker 5: electric College points. Right in Pennsylvania, the Jewish vote outweighs

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Speaker 5: the Muslim vote by four to one. Right, that's nineteen

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Speaker 5: electric college votes. I don't know if you consider Florida

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Speaker 5: SWINGSTA anymore, but the Jewish population there is probably ten

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Speaker 5: times bigger and the same. You know, Arizona has a

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Speaker 5: sizeable Jewish population. Georgia has a sizeable Jewish Jewish property relation.

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Speaker 5: You know, Ohio has a sizeable Jewish Jewish population in

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Speaker 5: all cases outnumbering the Muslim population. So you know, it's

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Speaker 5: it's like, you know, what will they call it penny foolish,

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Speaker 5: pound wise? I mean, great, you know, get Michigan, but

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Speaker 5: lose all these other states. I mean, what the hell

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Speaker 1: Michigan has sixteen electoral votes, by the way, but you're

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Speaker 1: right about the other states, whether it's Pennsylvania, whether it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania has over twenty. I think I'm just off the

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Speaker 1: top of my Headsylvania is bigger than Michigan. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure in the electoral and it's certainly four.

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Speaker 5: Days nineteen for Pennsylvania and ten maybe maybe changes every election.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, well anyway, Dovid, I always appreciate your analysis,

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Speaker 4: We have much discuss the Trump legal stuff in New York.

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Speaker 4: It is a farce.

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Speaker 8: It is.

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Speaker 4: It is crazy what they are doing, although it does

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Speaker 4: start to feel I don't know, I hate you know, Clay,

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Speaker 4: one of my maximums maxims in life is never celebrated

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Speaker 4: early right, never get tackled high stepping into the end

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Speaker 4: zone before you actually get there. Who knows what's going

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Speaker 4: to happen to this trial in New York City, but

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Speaker 4: it's certainly looking like things are moving more in Trump's

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Speaker 4: to it. So we'll get into some of that. But

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Speaker 4: something that's making the rounds right now, we're just talking

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Speaker 4: about VP and look, that's just kind of fun and

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Speaker 4: it allows us to bring up different possibilities different, you know,

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Speaker 4: depending And it shows you also, I think we have

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Speaker 4: Now some of you out there, not necessarily anyone listening,

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Speaker 4: but some folks have raised Although I think we've gotten

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Speaker 4: some calls about this, what about RFK Junior as the VP?

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Speaker 4: I've suggested it to be fair Buck, I didn't even

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Speaker 4: remember that. I said, well, I said I would pick

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Speaker 4: anyone as VP if I thought it guaranteed Trump would win.

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Speaker 1: So that's where I am on the VP front. If

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Speaker 1: you told me, you know, I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 1: like the most the least desirable. If you told me

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Speaker 1: Mitt Romney could guarantee that Trump would win the presidency,

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Speaker 1: I'd be like making VP. But that's my past, just

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Speaker 1: to be okay. So now with that Clay being very honest, man,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even remember he had said RFC. I was

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Speaker 1: like some of you out there, Clay's like me, Actually, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was one of them. I was one of those, one

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Speaker 4: of them. Yes, And I kept saying, and I know

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Speaker 4: this makes me sound curmudgeonly and get off my lawn

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Speaker 4: and all those things. It makes me sound like Statler

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Speaker 4: and Waldorf all at once, both of them. I kept saying,

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Speaker 4: here's the problem with that. He's a Democrat and you

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Speaker 4: can't trust him. Democrat can't trust him. And it's just

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Speaker 4: And that doesn't mean we say Fetterman's good on Israel

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Speaker 4: Federman's probably terrible in a whole range of economic things

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Speaker 4: if we were to drill down into it, and probably

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Speaker 4: that aside, he's good in Israel. We say he's good

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Speaker 4: on Israel. RFK Junior, as we all know, good on

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Speaker 4: COVID more broadly on vaccines is a little bit of

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Speaker 4: et cetera. So and we've been very clear about that.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think I've been here. I think I

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Speaker 4: was sick or out certainly one time, maybe both times

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Speaker 4: we interviewed RFK Junior on the show, I can't remember

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Speaker 1: I know I was out one until he got it

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Speaker 1: scheduled for us. We may have only had him on once,

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Speaker 1: maybe once twice. I think I had to be out

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Speaker 4: I might have been the know, in the air traveling

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Speaker 4: or something. Anyway, my point here is, here's RFK. You know,

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Speaker 4: like a bumper sticker that I should just, you know,

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Speaker 4: Keeping it as sorry, I was gonna say, it doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean they can't be right. I know, I'm really fired

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Speaker 4: up by this. It just means don't don't expect too much.

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Speaker 4: And here he is on the issue of abortion. I

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Speaker 5: It so, in other words, keeping it as is with

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Speaker 5: can have an abortion. No, I wouldn't leave.

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Speaker 4: It to the states, right, Oh, I would?

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Speaker 2: You would say completely, it's up to the we should

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Speaker 2: leave it to the woman.

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Speaker 4: We shouldn't have government involved, even if it's full term.

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Speaker 8: Even if it's full term.

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Speaker 4: Full term nine months RFK Junior out in favor at

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Speaker 4: this stage of abortion is okay at nine months of

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Speaker 4: a pregnancy. My friends, Democrat can't trust him now? Is

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Speaker 4: he useful for Trump to win as a third party candidate?

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Speaker 4: That's a different discussion. But RFK Junior as VP for

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Speaker 4: Trump was not something that was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So that's Sage Steele who has a new show,

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Speaker 1: Our friend. She's been on the show several times. I

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Speaker 1: And honestly, even though I disagree with RFK Junior, he

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Speaker 4: That to me, that is the Democrat position to be kid.

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Speaker 4: That is the universal Democrat position.

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Speaker 1: And that is the most radical position that you can

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Speaker 1: about ten percent of people believe there should be no

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Speaker 1: exceptions that if you're pregnant, you should have to carry

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Speaker 1: nine month abortions should be permitted. The ten percent position

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Speaker 1: percent on no exceptions and everything else is one of

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Speaker 1: many variations of what Republicans believe on abortion. So the

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Speaker 1: radical proposition here is what RFK Junior just acknowledged. And

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Speaker 1: I think what you're seeing. I was on with Sean

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Speaker 1: And I know he looks younger and more youthful than

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Speaker 1: seventy one, but it's not as if he is forty

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Speaker 1: I just think this is so important. If you don't

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Speaker 1: like Trump, and I understand there maybe twenty percent of

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Speaker 1: you out there listening to us right now, maybe it's fifteen,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's ten, whatever that math is, and you just

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Speaker 1: say I don't like Trump. I understand that. But ultimately

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Speaker 1: this is a binary. Our FK Junior has no way

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Speaker 1: possible to be elected anything if you vote for our

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Speaker 1: FK Junior, and you would otherwise vote for Trump. You

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Speaker 1: are effectively giving away your vote and voting for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: And I think this is an important thing for many

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Speaker 1: people out there to realize, really, this is a binary election.

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Speaker 1: You either choose Trump or you choose Biden. Those are

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Speaker 1: the options.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: If you are a Democrat historically, I'm what democrat historically,

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Speaker 1: and you are listening to us right now, and you're like, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to come off Biden, but I'm not willing

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Speaker 1: to make the path all the way to Trump. I

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Speaker 1: don't mind if you vote for RFK Junior over Biden,

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Speaker 1: because effectively, if you vote for RFK Junior over Biden,

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Speaker 1: you're voting for Trump. And this is the big question

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Speaker 1: you and I have been debating since the rise of

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Speaker 1: RFK Junior has occurred. The question is does RFK Junior

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Speaker 1: hurt Trump or Biden more? And the answer might well

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Speaker 1: be depends on the state and depends on how many

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Speaker 1: other people are on the ballot, and so we still

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Speaker 1: don't really know. But the only way I can countenance

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Speaker 1: any of you out there listening to us right now

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Speaker 1: voting for RFK Junior is if otherwise you would vote

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Speaker 1: for Biden. Because I'm fine with that. Anything that you

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Speaker 1: are doing that makes Biden more likely to be a

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Speaker 1: left did president. To me, you are failing to take

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Speaker 1: into account the four years of disaster that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: has delivered to all of us. So that's the big question.

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Speaker 1: And I think, unfortunately the data is RFK Junior is

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Speaker 1: pulling more from Trump than he is Biden, especially in

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Speaker 1: battleground states.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, I think is very tough for

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Speaker 4: Biden amidst all of this, And we actually have this

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Speaker 4: is from the Aaron Burnett interview last night. This is

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Speaker 4: where he talks about the price of things. You guys,

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the one where he says, yes, it's

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Speaker 4: because of the greedy corporations and he goes full like

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Speaker 4: idiot commie because he doesn't have a good explanation for

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Speaker 4: why things are all so expensive. But the challenge that

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Speaker 4: Biden is facing with all this is that he's doesn't

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Speaker 4: have anything to point to that's going well. He doesn't

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Speaker 4: have anything to point to that shows the enemy is

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Speaker 4: actually strong other than low unemployment. But the way they

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Speaker 4: calculate unemployment. Here are two things to remember. The way

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Speaker 4: the calculate unemployment is made to make unemployment seem lower

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Speaker 4: than it is. Here's something else they're keep in mind.

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Speaker 4: The way they calculate inflation is intended to make it

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Speaker 4: seem like inflation is better than it is, or rather

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Speaker 4: it is lower than it actually is. So the numbers

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Speaker 4: are already juiced. Understand that. And here's Biden. This was

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Speaker 4: an amazing moment, blaming the air pockets in a potato

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Speaker 4: chip bag basically for why people are paying more. This's

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Speaker 4: just twenty three play it.

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Speaker 2: Consumer confidence, maybe no surprise, is near a two year

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Speaker 2: low with less than six months to go to election day.

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Speaker 2: Are you worried that you're running out of time to

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Speaker 2: turn that around?

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Speaker 3: We've already turned around. Look you look at the Michigan

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Speaker 3: survey for sixty five percent of American people think they're

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Speaker 3: in good shape economically. They think the nation's not in

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Speaker 3: good shape, but they're personally in good shape. The pulling

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Speaker 3: data has been wrong all along. Let me say it this way.

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Speaker 3: When I started this administration, people were saying they're going

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Speaker 3: to be a collapse in the economy. We have the

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Speaker 3: strongest economy in the world. We said, again, in the world.

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Speaker 4: I saw we didn't have the part that I wanted

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Speaker 4: there where he said that it's because of the the

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Speaker 4: the producers are greedy. He basically blamed greedy corporations for

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Speaker 4: high prices because he doesn't understand economics one on one.

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Speaker 4: If we could track that part down, that was the

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Speaker 4: part of it that I thought was most interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he actually continues with his ridiculous Snickers bar claim,

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Speaker 1: which he made in the State of the Union. I

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Speaker 1: believe he's continued to say this, and Snickers came out.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I know this because I was actually

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Speaker 1: curious about this. I like a good Snickers bar every

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Speaker 1: now and then, and they said there's absolutely no truth

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Speaker 1: to Biden's consistent claim that they have shrunk the size

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Speaker 1: of a Snickers bar, that that basically hasn't occurred. But

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Speaker 1: arguing the economy is actually doing great and it's greedy

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Speaker 1: corporations that have caused inflation, which is the argument he

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Speaker 1: basically continues to make, is not one that resonates.

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Speaker 4: With all of the American government causes inflation. Yes, government

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Speaker 4: cause it inflation, Milton Freeman, everybody. Inflation is always and

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Speaker 4: at every time a creation of government policy. That's where

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Speaker 4: we're that's where we're going through. They spend too much

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Speaker 4: damn money, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, we're going to be

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Speaker 1: talking with a couple of guests here soon, but we'll

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Speaker 1: track down that clip so that you guys can can

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Speaker 1: hear it. I think at one thirty we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk with the Israel expert about.

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Speaker 4: Biden Dovid fun talking about the Biden Israel policy yep.

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Speaker 4: And then at two thirty, our friend Miranda Divine, who

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Speaker 4: I still think should get every pulitzer on the planet,

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Speaker 4: will be with us to talk about fresh pulletry play

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Speaker 4: every pulitzer. That's a lot of pulletzers, Like the lady

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Speaker 4: is not going to have enough space for it. You're

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Speaker 4: still sticking with it, Okay, she should get every one

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Speaker 4: of them. They are going to be with us in

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Speaker 4: the next couple of hours. Here, we got one guest

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Speaker 4: in each of the next two hours. But I want

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Speaker 4: to tell you as we.

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Speaker 1: Get ready to roll into that next segment, my wife

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Speaker 1: walked by me yesterday and she said, hey, you weren't

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Speaker 1: kidding about that my pillow extravaganza sale. I said, what

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Speaker 1: do you mean? She said, Look at this, I just

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Speaker 1: got two more incredible my Slippers purchased through the Extravaganza sale. Now,

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Speaker 1: she loves these shoes. I'm this is not even me

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Speaker 1: kidding about this. She wears them everywhere. I guarantee, I'm

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Speaker 1: about to go downstairs in a minute in my house.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you she's going to have them on. She

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Speaker 1: sleeps in these things. They are a part of right now,

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Speaker 1: she bought them with the clay and buck code. She listens.

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Speaker 1: She loves these slippers. I'm telling you right now, it's

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Speaker 1: Mother's Day. Maybe you'll want to find something that your

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Speaker 1: wife will love coming up on Sunday. I guarantee, based

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Speaker 1: Based on her incredible endorsement. She just bought two new

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Speaker 4: Sometimes all you can do is laugh.

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Speaker 6: And they do a lot of it with the Sunday

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Speaker 6: Hang Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up

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Speaker 6: in the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 6: app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we bring in the woman who I believe she

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Speaker 1: get all the Pulitzers for the last five years, Miranda Devine,

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Speaker 1: all the work she's done on the Biden laptop, for

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Speaker 1: being one hundred percent right about that and more. But Miranda,

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Speaker 1: we brought you on to talk about a bunch of stories,

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Speaker 1: including frat boy Summer and Buck and I were talking

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Speaker 1: about this off air. You are from Australia. Are there

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Speaker 1: frat boys in Australia? Does this exist? Or is this

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Speaker 1: an entirely American construction that you had to learn?

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Speaker 8: No, I think it's all frat boys in Australia. That's

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Speaker 8: just a very recognizable demographic.

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Speaker 1: You know, I watched Have you seen anyone but you

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Speaker 1: the Sydney Sweeney Glenn Powell said in Sydney Romantic Comedy?

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Speaker 1: Or Am I totally outing myself as not being a

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Speaker 1: heterosexual man by asking this question, have you seen this movie?

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Speaker 8: No? I haven't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Well, anyway, I was going to ask you

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Speaker 1: about it because there are a bunch of like Australian

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Speaker 1: esque frat Burroke characters on that and I was curious

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Speaker 1: about whether in Australia because I don't know that we've

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Speaker 1: had you on since I went. I went down with

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Speaker 1: my family, had an amazing time. We went all over

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Speaker 1: the place, but I was blown away by how woke

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Speaker 1: your country has gotten. For instance, we were standing on

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Speaker 1: Sydney Bridge and they said it's a great tour, amazing

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Speaker 1: view up there, but they said, hey, we want everybody

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Speaker 1: to apologize right now and understand that you know, Europeans

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Speaker 1: took over the Aboriginal Lands and that the original owners

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Speaker 1: of this land. And then we were there for the

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Speaker 1: New Year's celebration and before they did the fireworks, they said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we want to apologize to all the people who were

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Speaker 1: originally in these lands for all the awful things we've

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Speaker 1: done to them. And you have a National Sorry Day

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Speaker 1: is my understanding where you basically just say hey, we're sorry.

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Speaker 1: Like I couldn't believe all this was real, so given

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Speaker 1: that that's happened in Australia, do you worry about it

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Speaker 1: happening in the United States since you're Australian, But obviously

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Speaker 1: you live in New York City now and you've seen

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Speaker 1: what happened to your country.

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Speaker 8: It's since I left, so that's yeah, I'm putting it down.

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Speaker 1: So this is relatively recent then that Australia has gone crazy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Look, I think something broke with them with COVID.

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Speaker 8: I don't really know why, but I noticed the same thing.

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Speaker 8: I was there a couple of months ago and it

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Speaker 8: was just everything was this sorry, sorry, sorry, you know.

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Speaker 8: They just had this referendum where they were I want

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Speaker 8: to describe how ridiculous it is, but it was basically

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Speaker 8: setting up a separate parliament for Aboriginals and it got

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Speaker 8: completely resoundingly smashed by sensible Australians right just went away,

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Speaker 8: despite all the corporates and all the wokes just supporting it.

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Speaker 8: And so the response of the establishment is to just

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Speaker 8: shove this down everyone's throats and Aboriginals don't want it,

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Speaker 8: Australian people don't want it. It's just the corporate's virtue signaling.

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Speaker 8: And look it happens in America. But because at least

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Speaker 8: I say to my friends in Australia who say, oh,

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Speaker 8: everything in America is so crazy and everyone's fighting each other,

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Speaker 8: And I say, at least people in America are standing

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Speaker 8: up and fighting for their country. In Australia, they're so polite,

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Speaker 8: they just roll over. They don't want to have hostilities,

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Speaker 8: so they just let the left get away with it.

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Speaker 8: And here there is an almighty ball going on and

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Speaker 8: that's why it looks ugly, but it's the only way

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Speaker 8: to protect yourself against this revolution that is trying to

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Speaker 8: take over the country and take over the world. And look,

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Speaker 8: the rest of the West I think has capitulated apart

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Speaker 8: from a few, you know, countries on the margins like Hungry.

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Speaker 8: And the reason America can do that is because of

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Speaker 8: its First Amendment, Second Amendment. And I mean they're afraid

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Speaker 8: and they're being attacked and there are you know, most

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Speaker 8: of the people you know in this country on the

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Speaker 8: democratic side don't even understand how things work. I think

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Speaker 8: a little migrants understand better. So I think America is

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Speaker 8: in good shape, but it's going to be an ugly process.

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Speaker 4: Miranda, thanks for being here with us. You might have heard.

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Speaker 4: Just a moment ago, we had the news break about

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Speaker 4: the Hunter Biden gun trial going forward. I wanted to

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Speaker 4: know what from your sources you're hearing about how this

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Speaker 4: is likely to play out, what you think is coming next.

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Speaker 4: And and you know, Clay was saying, will anyone ask

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden if he's going to pardon his son? Maybe

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Speaker 4: one or two people in the media will have that

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Speaker 4: access and will do so. But it seems to me

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Speaker 4: like this is heading toward Joe Biden having to pardon

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Speaker 4: his son.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and of course he will, even though he says

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Speaker 8: he won't. So and that's why you see in Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 8: And he's enormous team. I mean I counted up the

863
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Speaker 8: other day. I think it was twenty four different lawyers

864
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Speaker 8: that he has. You know, he's probably got more lawyers

865
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Speaker 8: than Donald Trump. And he's there and he's a lot

866
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Speaker 8: of these lawyers are just engaging in lawfare against the

867
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Speaker 8: people who've spoken up and uncovered things about him. And

868
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 8: you know, I know that his team is very angry

869
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Speaker 8: and upset about the fact that he is facing trial.

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Speaker 8: I know Abby Lowell had this sort of complex legal

871
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 8: argument which was some there was some case in the

872
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 8: going to the Supreme Court, which was going to say

873
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Speaker 8: that it was unconstitutional to have to sign these background forms,

874
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 8: which is Hunters in trouble for lying on one of

875
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Speaker 8: those background forms. But people have gone to jail for

876
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 8: what he did, so he's tried to evade accountability. I

877
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 8: think this charge was something put on in Delaware by

878
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 8: the investigators who were so frustrated that, you know, David

879
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 8: Weiss had allowed the statute of limitations to run out

880
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 8: on the really serious tax charges and the borough charges

881
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 8: and so on, and so they found this gun charge

882
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 8: and slapped that on. And I mean, ironically enough, it

883
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 8: looks like it's one charge that Hunter is not going

884
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 8: to be able to get out of very easily without

885
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Speaker 8: a pod.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Miranda devillan New York Post. The reason

887
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Speaker 1: we brought you on initially, We've had you on a

888
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: lot over the years, but was you wrote a column

889
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: and this kind of ties in with the question I

890
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Speaker 1: was asking you about frat boys summer, starting with the

891
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: way that many different frat guys have responded to the

892
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: anti Israel protests all over the country, in particular at

893
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. What does it say that suddenly you can

894
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: have in the United States as a hero. Probably the

895
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Speaker 1: group that is considered to be the bane of the

896
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: identity politics existence, which is young white college men that

897
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: suddenly rise up, can see right from wrong, are supporting

898
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: Israel's right to defend itself, and it seems really being

899
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: embraced by large swaths of the American public. What's a

900
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: pivot point? What to you as the significance? Why did

901
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Speaker 1: you write your piece?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I do think it's a pivot point because you

903
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 8: finally have this generation, you know, young college boys who

904
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 8: they are the lowest of the low they are, you know,

905
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 8: have been reviled. Their like has been smashed for the

906
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Speaker 8: last really two generations, and what have they got to lose?

907
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Speaker 8: You know, you look at universities, they're majority female. The

908
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 8: jobs are going to majority female or minorities. You know,

909
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Speaker 8: if you're a white boy growing up in America, now

910
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 8: you've been you've been sort of slammed and hammered from

911
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Speaker 8: your very earliest memory. And I think they're just sick

912
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 8: of it and they're not going to take it anymore.

913
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 8: These are the ones you see them on campus. They

914
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 8: probably don't even know or care about the politics of

915
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Speaker 8: the protests that are going on. They don't really know

916
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Speaker 8: about what's going on with Israel. They are just sick

917
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Speaker 8: of these ugly, entitled, arrogant mainly women attacking them and

918
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Speaker 8: you know, taking over their campus canceled, having their you know,

919
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 8: their their graduations canceled, et cetera. And they just laugh

920
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 8: at them. They just look at them and they think

921
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 8: they are ridiculous and they're not going to be politically

922
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Speaker 8: correct because it gets them nowhere. Being polite gets them nowhere.

923
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Speaker 8: They are the lowest on the tone pole, so they

924
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Speaker 8: have nothing to lose. And this is what this environment,

925
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 8: this anti male environment, has done to them. And of course,

926
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Speaker 8: you know, if you if you turn people into worms,

927
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 8: eventually the worm turns. And I think that's what you're

928
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 8: seeing now. And you know they're strong, I mean they're

929
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Speaker 8: young men. And really these sort of crazy, hysterical mostly

930
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Speaker 8: female protesters have gotten away with being aggressive and pugnacious

931
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 8: and you know, picking fights in parking lots with men

932
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Speaker 8: because they just expect that the men are going to

933
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Speaker 8: hold back and not use their superior physical strength against them,

934
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Speaker 8: because that is so taboo in our society. And then

935
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Speaker 8: what the women have taken from that is, oh, I'm

936
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Speaker 8: stronger than a man, and you know, muscle up. It

937
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 8: doesn't work like that, you know, at the jungle, it's

938
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Speaker 8: just the same rules that as it always has been,

939
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Speaker 8: and the only thing that's protected those women has been

940
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Speaker 8: the good manners and the chivalry of men. And now

941
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 8: these young men are saying, hell with the chivalry and

942
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 8: the good manners. Why should I be confined by that

943
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Speaker 8: when I get no privileges and I'm treated like a worm?

944
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Speaker 4: Miranda, Why is it that so many people on these

945
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 4: campuses are just in general, who are clearly unhappy and

946
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: emotionally unstable, are so attracted to these left wing causes,

947
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Speaker 4: whether it's Palestine or any number of things.

948
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Speaker 8: I think a lot of it is because they've been

949
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 8: brainwashed from school days that those causes are the right causes. Also, look,

950
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 8: it's just a natural instinct of young women to side

951
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 8: with the underdog, to be emotional, to have their heartstrings

952
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 8: pulled by, you know, babies being hurt and so on.

953
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 8: So if you're on TikTok or whatever is your poison

954
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 8: of choice, and you're being bombarded with propaganda from one

955
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 8: side and not the other, then that's going to be

956
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 8: your natural instinct, and then it's just the herd mentality

957
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 8: what's fashionable and these you know, it just so happens

958
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty four that these causes are fashionable, that

959
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 8: you know, even though we saw on October seven young

960
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 8: women at an over festival were being horribly, horribly sexually assaulted, raped, murdered, tortured,

961
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 8: you now have their counterparts on American campuses wearing these

962
00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 8: black and white cafirs, these Muslim scarves, you know, rallying

963
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 8: for the Hamas terrorists who perpetrate at that crime. It

964
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 8: makes no sense, but it's just because you're appealing to

965
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 8: emotion and you're using propaganda. And you know, the sad

966
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 8: thing I think that COVID taught us is how much

967
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 8: like sheep we all are, how easy it is to

968
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Speaker 8: sway and guide the mob.

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Speaker 1: I want to give credit not only the southern frat

970
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: guys who you wrote about. I don't know if you

971
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: saw this video, Miranda, but there was a video from

972
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Speaker 1: the University of Washington. A couple of frat guys walk

973
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: up to an Antifa protester who's clad all in black.

974
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: I think he has a mask completely covering his face

975
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: and they just challenge him to a push up contest,

976
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: and the mockery and the ridicule and the humor of

977
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: that video has gone super viral. I shared it on

978
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Speaker 1: my twitter feed. Isn't this really the ultimate kind of weakness?

979
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: I would say of left wing protesters in general, they

980
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: are absolutely and completely and easily ridiculed with mockery and humor,

981
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: much like I'm sure you saw Miranda the Princeton Hunger Strikers,

982
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: and one of the girls came out and she was like,

983
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: I can't believe you guys are doing this to me.

984
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: They have created such a ridiculous situation for themselves that

985
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: I do think the humor in the mockery is cutting

986
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Speaker 1: through on some of these social platforms.

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Speaker 8: It's just brilliant. You know, It's like a whole mass

988
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 8: moment of the Emperor's new clothes. What these you know,

989
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 8: so called frat boys are doing is they're just pointing

990
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 8: the finger and tie friend, saying, you are just ridiculous,

991
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 8: scrawny little nerds to rest up cosplaying, you know, just

992
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 8: get out of here, you don't, you know, nerds, take

993
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 8: your place back where you belong. And they're sort of

994
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 8: asserting their right they're sort of primal right to be

995
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 8: the king of the jungle. And I think that we've

996
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 8: had an era where people who are kind of social

997
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 8: outcasts have managed to cause mayhem. You know, whether they're Antifa,

998
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 8: all clad in black people, you take their masks off,

999
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 8: look at them. They are now weasels. They have no power,

1000
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 8: and so they try and gain power, and they're resentful

1001
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 8: with the world, and they in fact, the frat boy

1002
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 8: is the absolute representation of what they despise and what

1003
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 8: they wish they could be, because they're the ones who

1004
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 8: get the cute girls. I mean, it's just it's high school.

1005
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 8: But that's what politics really is. It's high school. Writ large.

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Speaker 1: I think that's all said Miranda Devine, have a fantastic weekend,

1007
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Speaker 1: keep up the stellar work, and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: against food.

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Speaker 8: Thanks so much, guy, Its great to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I think Miranda out alfored me by the

1011
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,160
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Speaker 1: Kind of funny, by the way, A little bit of

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Speaker 1: a funny movie, but I understand if you can't respect me.

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