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Speaker 1: Gangs, the chronic goals. This is not your average show.

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Speaker 2: You're now tuned into the rail.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the gangst the Chronicles podcast, the production of

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Speaker 1: What was adding?

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Speaker 3: It's your boy, big Steel Against the Chronicles Another day,

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Speaker 3: but my guy. Yeah, and you know what, today, I

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Speaker 3: think I can count on my hand eight the amount

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Speaker 3: of women that we've had on the show. That we

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Speaker 3: had two. I think Sugar teas our second female on

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 2: Well probably you guys have to be ashamed of yourself.

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Speaker 1: We leave. Yeah, okay, but you know today we got

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Speaker 1: a legend though. Yeah, legendary. Yes, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, one of the pillars in the mound of hip hop.

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Speaker 3: You know, I want to go way back. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: talk about all the stuff that you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Now. I got to call a doctor. Doctor, you will

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Speaker 1: take that. Yeah, you didn't know that she has a doctor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's how that's that's that's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have an AA Liberal Studies AA in General Business,

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Speaker 2: a bachelor's in psychology, a master's an organizational management, a

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Speaker 2: master's in supply chain management, a Master's of Christian Counseling,

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Speaker 2: a dopted in Humanities, and a doctorate honorary doctorate in music.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of those you attained that you was

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Speaker 3: your career had already started, right yep. What made you

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Speaker 3: up and decide I'm gonna go back to school and

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Speaker 3: just start and just level up on everybody.

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Speaker 2: You know. It was a period when people was like

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Speaker 2: kind of like I got a little nervous about how

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Speaker 2: and so that that's what got me a little fearful.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I better go to

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Speaker 2: school just in case. But that was a part of it.

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Speaker 2: But then in between time, I just I just never

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Speaker 2: wanted to be just a rapper. I didn't want people,

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Speaker 2: you know, so anybody could do that, you know, that

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Speaker 2: type of thing. I wanted to be in all conversations,

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Speaker 2: like that. And just as a businesswoman, you know, I

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Speaker 2: get what I'm saying. And just as a mother, I

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Speaker 2: want to show my children, you know that how important

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Speaker 2: be the traditional education, but anything you learn, you know

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Speaker 2: and add value to you make sense. And of course,

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Speaker 3: That's dope, And I had to shop that out because

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Speaker 3: I thought that was an interest that is so dope,

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Speaker 2: Yes, And to be honest with you, I didn't really

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Speaker 2: You know, like certain times you won't get back. When

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Speaker 2: You won't get that ninth grade gradual. You know. There's

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Speaker 2: for rebellion. So as a woman, it's different. You know

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Speaker 2: they are doing everything. You know what I mean, they

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Speaker 2: just living vicariously, just out there bad, wilding out, rebellious, crazy,

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Speaker 2: Is like see if I could hang, you know, what

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Speaker 2: something else? Can I hang? And I make sure everything's

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Speaker 2: I said, I want to check on the corporation. And

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Speaker 2: when I got to that corporation, it was a trip

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Speaker 2: because this agency had a girl training I mean, the

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Speaker 2: when they're supposed to give you your uh you know,

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Speaker 2: they smiled, skinned the grid all in my face and

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Speaker 2: and next thing, you know, you know, I get the

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Speaker 2: call soon as I walked out, oh we don't need

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Speaker 2: you anymore. And I'm like, what would happened? In fact, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, we had to hire somebody. You know, it

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I did what they asked me to do.

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Speaker 2: At that time, I had an AA in General Business

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Speaker 2: So it was a yeah. And I definitely didn't want

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Speaker 2: to me, not in a very way of integrity, you

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Speaker 2: you know, when I tell them I'm a rapper, because

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Speaker 2: You know what? I just I just have fun, lie,

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Speaker 3: Just something who kicked it off first, Who kicked it

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Speaker 2: All of us. We always was like at least being

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was just always playing into something or you

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Speaker 2: Then yeah, my daddy he's a musician. Even to this day.

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Speaker 2: He's a little singer and he played the music. But

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Speaker 2: My mama also and her aller sisters were musicians. All

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Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, these people are selling MoMA out, you know,

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Speaker 2: to do this related to y'all. Yes, Diddy's my first cousin.

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Speaker 3: That's dope. That's what I'm saying. That Jackson like hip

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Speaker 3: hop Jackson family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's my first cousin. We got a lot of families.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 3: You said a lot of real stuff about women in

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Speaker 2: I do? I think people gonna grow up? I think

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Speaker 2: depending on what age group you reach them, you know,

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Speaker 2: when the algorithms hit the kids, they don't know no better,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? The kids just looking at

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Speaker 2: then you know, the programs like that, they keep that going,

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Speaker 2: you know, or the men with you know, sexual fixes

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Speaker 2: I saw you see. It's just don't make no sense

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Speaker 2: also like to say, well, y'all the one did this,

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Speaker 2: get what I'm saying. It wasn't a bunch of controversy

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Speaker 2: and funking with each other and all these open spats

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Speaker 2: over sexualized. Every time you look at them, they got

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Speaker 2: make no sense. It's thinking to me, I'm so sick

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Speaker 2: of looking at booty. It just don't make no sense.

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Speaker 2: And I know men got to be sick of looking

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it's like so you know,

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Speaker 1: It's like so much form today you get me?

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Speaker 4: Is that because would I'm not a female, so I

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Speaker 4: You know, everybody wouldn't be famous today. And even with

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Speaker 4: right you feel? Or is it the attention that's wont

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Speaker 4: because you know, I don't understand it, because if you

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Speaker 1: Or x you know, doing that to do for work?

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Speaker 1: I said, for attention?

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Speaker 4: Or is it to be famous or is it the

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Speaker 1: For attention?

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Speaker 2: You know, like I said, speak it's not variety. I

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Speaker 2: it's just a sess pool, a sesspool of foolishness and

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, instead of rocking with us,

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Speaker 2: it's them you know, showing that they're trying to get

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Speaker 2: the people that got their next slice. These girls that

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Speaker 2: Her name is Mercedes. You know, they don't say all

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Speaker 2: I'm like a I call myself a turk controller, right,

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Speaker 2: profile because it's bigger to me than just what you

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Speaker 2: got own. You know, It's bigger about what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: It's not judgment. This is dangerous, you know, it's dangerous mentally,

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Speaker 2: You're in a delusion if you think life is all

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Speaker 2: blame it on the hip hop artist. It's also the

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Speaker 2: reality show stars did it. You know, they started it

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Speaker 2: remember that, you know, they don't want to started that

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Speaker 2: stuff that we didn't do all that. You know, the girls,

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Speaker 2: the rappers and stuff, even the hoochie mamas wasn't all

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Speaker 2: the way there, you know, that far until they came

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Speaker 2: out doing that stuff. You know, then everybody else started

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Speaker 2: wanting to, you know, do that. But anyway, go ahead, honey,

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Speaker 2: But you and eighties.

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Speaker 3: From the same class, so to speak, like the nineties, right,

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Speaker 3: that's you know, that's my time too, that's our era, right.

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Speaker 3: I think everything is over sexual lives right now. We

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Speaker 3: and then they ain't have to do none of that,

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Speaker 3: you feel what I'm saying, They just red And I

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Speaker 3: the idea to say, let's do this, right, you know,

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Speaker 3: you had the success of the two Live crew and

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Speaker 3: you was gonnaventually see all that. You know, people's as

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Speaker 3: you call it up there showing that booty because a

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Speaker 3: lot of people like the booty, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And so I think they're trying to service an audience.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: But then this the part right here, tee, what happens

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Speaker 2: You would think she's gonna slow love tell now, you know.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a sad thing, That's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's just if she grows up, you know, and if

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Speaker 2: she you know, a lot of these girls gonna run

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00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: and get abortions and stuff. They don't want to mess

429
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: their bbls up, so they run around killing babies anyway.

430
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: So I'm really disappointed with us, I really am, you know.

431
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: And I say that not in judgment because I'm speak.

432
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm a teacher, you know. I teach people how to

433
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 2: create equitable opportunities for themself, you know what I'm saying.

434
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 2: And I also have training programs. I do staff development,

435
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: leadership competence training. I focus on the trauma and system

436
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,719
Speaker 2: impacted community, you know, when we serve in my organization,

437
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: I have a school an educational practice, you know, where

438
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 2: it's wellness and education, you know. And so I say this,

439
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: you know, I have a program called to Save Our

440
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 2: Sister's Project. So I'm not just saying it because I'm

441
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: looking down on people, you know what I mean. I

442
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 2: got receipts to show that I actually try to help,

443
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 2: you know. And and I lived this life before I

444
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 2: went through my little short staking period. For one moment

445
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: with Foxy Brown was cutting up and you know little

446
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: Kim back in the day, and I went through my

447
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: little very very quick lived and.

448
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 3: You felt like you had to do that to complete

449
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 3: him because you start that posted look on their own.

450
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 2: I just had fun. You know. I was the first

451
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 2: who squatted. I squatted first. Kim was after me. But

452
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: I was having fun, and I was like, I'm gonna

453
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 2: get this food back. I'm going through a divorce at

454
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 2: the time, like I'm gonna show him I canna be

455
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: cute too. You know. It was about getting him back.

456
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't about I'm about y'all come get me all

457
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: of this and y'all can have it. And what it

458
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 2: was was, I wasn't just oh you could have it.

459
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, you gotta do all that and you

460
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: ain't getting it, you know what I mean. You could look,

461
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: but you can't touch you feel me, I kept it

462
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: pick out. These girls are just like, oh, come get it,

463
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 2: y'all do it like this, and we can do it

464
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: like that, and it's just unclassy. It's untactful, you know

465
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: what I mean. And it's just too long. They're doing

466
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: it too long. You know, you go through stages. We

467
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: do that, but it's too long, you know, you know

468
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 2: what I mean?

469
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, is it is it?

470
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 2: Is?

471
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: It?

472
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 4: Is it because of the difference in the generate, in

473
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 4: the generational gap, you get me. You said, shit has

474
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 4: been sexualized for a long time. And shit, you know,

475
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: we saw movies back in our days or you know,

476
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 4: we all had cable TV or HBO or playbo or whatever,

477
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 4: but it wasn't as it wasn't as sexual lives in

478
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 4: our music as much as it is today. Is that

479
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 4: because of the time and place for hip hop now?

480
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: Because back where we came from, I think we we

481
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: vision hip hop in a different light because you know,

482
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 4: we were trying to build the foundation of hip hop

483
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 4: and I think, you know, because we were looked at

484
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 4: as a gimmick or nobody wanted to really invest in us.

485
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: We took pride in what hip hop was.

486
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 4: But you know, strict club have always been around ladies

487
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: in the strip clubs and making their money and trying

488
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 4: to do what they do. And that's where sort of

489
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 4: it started leaning right when we started getting the sisters

490
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: who would you know, over sexualize the situations in hip

491
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 4: hop or with the videos or what they spoke about.

492
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 4: And then thus following that, you have a lot of

493
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: young women now following that path of that order of

494
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 4: hip hop. Is that because of just the gap and

495
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 4: generation of what we saw fit and what they feel

496
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 4: is okay to do now?

497
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: Or do you see that as social.

498
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 4: Media and the Internet and having that access being able

499
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 4: to exploit it as much as it is so far

500
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 4: because young girls look at it to keep they go, oh,

501
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 4: I can make a gang of money if you get me.

502
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, we're trying to try to keep our grand

503
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: kids off the polecau.

504
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: Right, like you said, trying to keep the kids off

505
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: the pole.

506
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 4: Back in the days that you know you have prostitution, right,

507
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 4: you had to go out in the corner the motherfucker

508
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 4: whatever whatever. Now you have different access to that ship.

509
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 4: I don't got to go on the corner no more.

510
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: I could turn on a video Marcket.

511
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could.

512
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 4: Turn on my video camera on my phone and you know,

513
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 4: and and and in the site.

514
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: That's why I said it's crazy because most of the.

515
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: Sites yeah wow you yeah, oh yeah, post.

516
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 4: A five second video of just ass or do what

517
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: you wear for this or that? You know, So we

518
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 4: didn't have that access back when we were coming up

519
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: in hip hop. And I don't think I think like

520
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 4: neither we took right we took the look at hippop,

521
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 4: I don't think because like like you said, it was

522
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 4: very secluded. Yeah, it was very hard for women to

523
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 4: sustain in the hippop.

524
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: Actually it wasn't. I think it's harder for them to

525
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: sustain now because what they got to do to be

526
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 2: in it. The new ones.

527
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 4: I say that on the aspect of because it was

528
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: very limited. You get me.

529
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: You hard hand?

530
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: How then Sisters was really you.

531
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: Know, and we was wrang the ones. It was you know,

532
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 2: we stood you know what I mean, we have we

533
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: had to show up.

534
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the salt and peppers, I'm looking at you.

535
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the money loves the Queen, the teeth

536
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 4: us the yo yo, yeah, we we you know. It

537
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 4: was a it was a tough to be able to

538
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: hang with the brothers.

539
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: You had to you had to be telling your.

540
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 4: Lines, had to be like you couldn't come up talking

541
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 4: about ass and titts bullshit because how we respected hip hop.

542
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: You got to have work So even if you're gonna

543
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: be your sister, you had to be workplace.

544
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, they like today it's like, okay, shit, put on

545
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: some fake ass, some fake tds talk about the strip

546
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: club and how many niggas theme in for the pussy,

547
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: how many niggas gonna pay for this?

548
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: And I had your nigga doing.

549
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: This and I'm on an interview?

550
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: Was that the and then so.

551
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: Sorry, It's like it influences because if you, like you said,

552
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: if you got a fifteen year old granddaughter or daughter, I.

553
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: Got sixteen various, I got four sixteen year olds, I

554
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: got a nineteen year old, and I got a whole

555
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: bunch in between there.

556
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so it's yeah, so it's hard to it's

557
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: hard to guide that when you got a motherfucker like

558
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 4: on the on the video half minute with rolexes and

559
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 4: jumping out of rolls, royces and meat coke on and

560
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: and that's making motherfucker god, because I've heard little kids

561
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 4: as young as six years old like I'm gonna because

562
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 4: he's seen, like I'm seeing. They're not looking at you know,

563
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: salt and peppers or the sugar teas, the yo yoa.

564
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: They looking at what's going on right now.

565
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: Their parents ain't playing it for them, you know, So

566
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: their parents ain't playing to see people every First of all,

567
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: everything you're saying is nothing but on point, and you ask.

568
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: You started off asking, but then you start telling what

569
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: it is, what you saw, what it is, what it is,

570
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: It's it's Internet. These people have been able to play

571
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: these games through this Internet, and that's where it started

572
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: at is being branded on TV the new third see

573
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 2: I'm writing a movie called The Rapademic. She tell of

574
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: sugar tea and how rap became a pandemic and a

575
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: weapon to the women who broke the rules right, And

576
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: it's specifically addressing what happened because I watched the whole thing.

577
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: I was a part of it. I stepped back to

578
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: see while I was working in other spaces and places,

579
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: I come back and I'm like dang. This then went

580
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: all the way backwards, because this is doubted. They literally pushed.

581
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: First of all, they pushed the women to get another job. Okay,

582
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: the older women number one, and they start hyping up

583
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: just what you said, these kids and all the older

584
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: men start hyping up these kids too, the ones that

585
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: were gatekeepers and had a platform, and they jumped on

586
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: the kids back, scared thinking it took them kids for

587
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: them to stay famous. They was running scared to try

588
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: to stay.

589
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: In the game.

590
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: So it was either keep it super hood, you know,

591
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: but this as we know, there's so many ways to

592
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: keep it hood, you know what I mean.

593
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 3: I mean?

594
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: And then or it was jump on the kids back

595
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: because they're young and let's stay relevant. When the reality

596
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: is they didn't need to do that. They'd already made

597
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: a brand. They already had the balls up in their court.

598
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: They already was smashed smashing, you know what I mean.

599
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: So we had made fathoms and golds, and really we

600
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: had real people, as you know, mister eight. They showed

601
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: up for us. We shot show up and show out.

602
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: It wasn't no high behind the internet, behind the camera

603
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: for a minute and on TV to get the buying no,

604
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: but we showed up. We came and showed out, you

605
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And it wasn't no faking. You know,

606
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: we could every now and then want to get away

607
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: with it like Nili Vanilli or somebody, but they even

608
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: showed up. So you said it all. What you just

609
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: said was they put these kids in front of the

610
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: TV and in these spaces where they could be seen

611
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: and made them look like they had the answers. And

612
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: it didn't just affect the community, I mean the industry.

613
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: It affected the community too. You got these young ones

614
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: trying to challenge the mamas, taking ay on the same

615
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: level asm, you know what I mean. They looking at

616
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: the women that's you know, the young girls, that slashing look,

617
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: looking like they got the bros boys and all this

618
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: extra stuff going on, and boom, now all of a sudden,

619
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: they got the answers. So you got them were they

620
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: don't even want to hear they mom, oh mama, you ain't,

621
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: you ain't popping like that. So I'm over here. She

622
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: look at she got the money. You get what I'm saying.

623
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: So it was a dismantling from so many different layers,

624
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, of all of us, of all different community

625
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: than the industry. And then you had the one of

626
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: the boys that run it scared, you know, that made

627
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: it where you either you know, they jumped on somebody

628
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: back to survive seeking that was the way. And they

629
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: stopped pushing the older men and the older women both.

630
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: They stopped supporting it and the ones that needed to

631
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: support and they let these kids get to get get

632
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: the front. And that's where they messed up at because

633
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: the kids got in front and took advantage of it,

634
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: and whoever the handlers was was like, yeah, snash on them.

635
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 2: You know, let's keep this, let's put you know, put

636
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: the gas on it so we can get it in,

637
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: you know, and whatever agendas. There's so many different agendas

638
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: that was trying to be accomplished, you know. At the

639
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: bottom line is that's where that's where it started from.

640
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: And then it just the SEO and the algorithms and

641
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: all of that started, you know, pulling people towards you know,

642
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: these these girls and these guys and it's controversy mess

643
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: reaching these little kids and like mess, you know what

644
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: I mean. And then the parents, you know older when

645
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: men when when our age, they they lost it and

646
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: start pushing with the hype. And now they have turned

647
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: off the old Jays, you know what I'm saying. They

648
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: have turned off Stevie Wonder and and weeby King and

649
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, and all the people

650
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: that we listened to to keep that balance, Sha lamar,

651
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: and you know I keep going on and on, and

652
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: now you know the cameo and you know all of

653
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: the old school soul sick. They kept our soul somewhat balanced.

654
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: Then they started letting these little kids music come on.

655
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: And that word right there, what you said, not to

656
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: cut you off, but balance. It ain't no balance, no

657
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: more balance.

658
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: And they let them come in and take over, you know,

659
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: literally like I seen older women my mama's age, like

660
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: turning off the old school music and let the kids

661
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: take over. And I'm like, we're part of the game.

662
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 2: Is this like we can never come take over no

663
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: music and our mama's and their parties. You know when

664
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: we was growing up, like y'all let the kids come

665
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: put over from kitty music. I've been done with this

666
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: kiddy music. I couldn't stand it for years. I mean

667
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: I didn't like it. I refused to feel like I

668
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: had to sound like Cardi B. And making the stallion

669
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: and Nicki Minaj. No matter of fact, Nicki Minaj is

670
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: probably the only one that I'm gonna give some props to.

671
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: And the reason why is because she was the first

672
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: one when we were all on hiatus taking a break

673
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: in some balance. We had already made a whole bunch

674
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: of movement in the game, you know, whatever our stories was.

675
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 2: She came in and slipped in the middle and held

676
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: it down, and she worked very hard to do it.

677
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: And she, you know, you could tell she she wasn't

678
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: trying to be this rough tough. She was a gimmick

679
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: straight up, and she made that very clear. You know,

680
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: she wore her little outfits and you know, funny stuff,

681
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, it wasn't like she

682
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: I'd give it to her because now I was a

683
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: little annoyed with her at one point because I wasn't

684
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: very I'm not into the fake butts and all the

685
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: stuff that these people got going on, because I think

686
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: it's it's fake when you when you're worshiping somebody's body,

687
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: because it's fake. To me, that's fake, you know, so

688
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: but hey to eat just on. But what I did

689
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: learn to respect her for was later when all these

690
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: other girls harped off of her, basically off of her

691
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: and little Kim and Foxy Brown who had already done it.

692
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: But of course there was a research of that, that

693
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: kind of stuff through Nicki Minaj and through you know,

694
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: so she the one I think should hold it because before,

695
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: as you know, Trina and Trina came up a little

696
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: after you know, all of us, the Foxy and Kim

697
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 2: was the main sex pots, you know, and then Trema

698
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: was that kind of the hood, another version of the

699
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: sex pot. And then you had coming in later. I

700
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: played with it every now and then, you know, and

701
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: then you know, uh, you have later on into two

702
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 2: thousands where Nikki came in and she came and gate

703
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: a sex pot. But everybody copied after her after that,

704
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, copy of.

705
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: I think around that time, emails started figuring that that

706
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: was that was a tool that you know, we we

707
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: couldn't do that still, you get me. Well, we had

708
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 4: it a little bit, as you want to say, with

709
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: too short, you know, because we always spoke women and

710
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 4: spoke sexual shit or whatever ever. But I think once

711
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 4: the Nicki Minaj serge took off, and like you said,

712
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: the fake butts started coming into play, and then you know,

713
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 4: I think the young hip hop females started seeing that

714
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 4: that was a different side that they could exploit. The

715
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 4: strip club rap you get me, there was a lot

716
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 4: of it started being a lot of talk of of sex,

717
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: you know, money, you know what I'm getting, what the

718
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 4: nigga's paying for?

719
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: Ye what am I going to get?

720
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: Cardi B did did too, because she came in and

721
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: got on TV and did that and that's how she

722
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: actually got branded right on that TV show. So the people,

723
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: what they did is they took advantage of the opportunity

724
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: to you know, for easy branding and easy sell, you.

725
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

726
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: And then there you go, they start following her because

727
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 2: of her strip stories. Everybody was like, oh, I'm Tipper

728
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: and I can get discovered as a rapper, you know,

729
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Right and then but see check it out.

730
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: See I ain't even mad at them, right, but taking

731
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: the opportunity. But I'm mad about the fact that nobody

732
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: supported us, because if they would have kept supporting us,

733
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 2: oh geez, instead of letting these kids run a mark,

734
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: because that's what they did, then they would have had

735
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: some hyenas on their heads, and they wouldn't have been

736
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: the only one shining and getting in the space. You

737
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: understell them saying, we would have been up in the

738
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: middle of that too, and it would have been balanced.

739
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: And at the same time, they wouldn't have felt so

740
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: empowered like, oh, we must be all girls. You hear

741
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: them saying stuff in they songs and everything, you know

742
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: what I mean. And like I told some people one time,

743
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: they came to me and I'm like, you know, no,

744
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm good. I ain't trying to I didn't already made

745
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: fathoms of goals, you know. And I didn't been all

746
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: over the world. I'n't already made my mark. It's gonna

747
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: take a minute for y'all to catch up to me,

748
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: you know. And that's marking the game. But general, I

749
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: ain't got to do what these kids is doing, you

750
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And they would come at me

751
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, you got to sound like oh

752
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: MICKI Minia Cardi B. They would thw Cardi B, you

753
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: gotta stand and look like that. I'm not doing all

754
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: that little looking like transvestite with all the pack makeup

755
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: on my face, and you know, and I'm doing all

756
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: that extra stuff. I'm not overdressed and I'm not doing

757
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: none of that that don't make sense to me. I

758
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 2: ain't never had to do it, and I'm not going

759
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: to my skills on make these bills, you know what

760
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: I mean. And so it was a trip when the

761
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: City Girls came out and people were telling me I

762
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: needed to sound like the new girls now here. I

763
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: need to sound like them now here. I done came

764
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: through a whole twenty year run already, you know, with

765
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: a whole nother element of my own lane of how

766
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: I present my music right and even off hiatus, and

767
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: they started supporting the City Girls, and the City Girls

768
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: sounded just like JJ Fan and Salt and Pepper. Part

769
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: of the game is that they're telling me I need

770
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: to sound like Cardi. But this new girl come in.

771
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: These girls come in sounded just like us back in

772
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: the day. So I'm kind of annoyed what the way

773
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 2: that we, as as our colleagues do did. Were talking

774
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: about multiple things, but I guess I could stick to

775
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: the girl them. So I don't like how they treated us.

776
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: They would not they didn't have a life jacket for us.

777
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: They didn't say, let's keep you going to Let's don't

778
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 2: be letting these look younger smash them you like that.

779
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: They was all for the youngest, making their moves and

780
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: not even looking out for us.

781
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this be ain't down in LA.

782
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: There haven't been too many successful rap girls outside of Yoyo.

783
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: Who else said we had down here?

784
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: Eight?

785
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: Well you had you know, you had yo Yo, you

786
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: have raves. Even though she's from Virginia, but she.

787
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 4: Represented she always she always represented what she was from

788
00:40:59,160 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 4: you now.

789
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because she was with you know, with the.

790
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: It was with the Death Row run it death represented

791
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: the West coast, but she always told you she represented Virginia.

792
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 2: Bill.

793
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: Yes, obvious, but like you said, it's we've had five footers.

794
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: You have the five footers you have to But they

795
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: tried for the moment, you know, they had a moment.

796
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 4: The worst part the problem with that is is and

797
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 4: we've all felt victim to that. I have is a

798
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 4: lot of times labels don't know what to do with

799
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: you as an artist, especially coming into this genre of

800
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: hip hop we were in.

801
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: They didn't know what to do with me. You get me.

802
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: I just represented a part of era that a lot

803
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 4: of motherfuckers went.

804
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: Through as far as the streets is concerned.

805
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: When you get to speaking on people like Yo Yo

806
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 4: or the five Footers or even Rage or niggas didn't

807
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 4: know or to you know, JJ FAD was. You know,

808
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: they were successful because they came in at a time

809
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 4: where hip hop was new, you feel me. There were

810
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: no restrictions as far as as far and we were

811
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 4: coming out of We were coming out of a dance

812
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 4: era time you get me. Even Easy in them had

813
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 4: a song something to dance too that was fast whatever.

814
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: Because we were coming out of the dance era the

815
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: eighties and shit.

816
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: So jj FAD was successful with Supersonic because it was

817
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 4: a dance record and every teenager in America going to

818
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: high school dances and all that shit still popular. So

819
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 4: that's what a J Fatt was able to slide in

820
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: and blow off. But if you would have took them

821
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: and put them two years back when the era of

822
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 4: West Coast music really blew up with Easy and NWA

823
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 4: and then Compton's Most Wanted and so forth and so on,

824
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 4: it probably have been a harder deal.

825
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: But like you said, you know.

826
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: Exactly, and like I said, they were coming out of

827
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: the dance era, everybody was going to high school dances

828
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 4: and partying and doing all of that.

829
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: So it was the perfect way.

830
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 4: Super because when you look at rat in the whole

831
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 4: back and a lot of stuff was up generated you

832
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 4: get me, yes, So it was it was a perfect

833
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: song to slide in. But like you said, as far

834
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 4: as women on the West Coast, it was hard because

835
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 4: labels didn't know how to market, you.

836
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: Feel, and it wasn't that we had experiences with the

837
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: people we were connected with a lot of behind the

838
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: scenes stuff that went on that you know, you can't

839
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: sit up and tell everybody's business, but you know people

840
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: be dating people and they you know, sneaking and dating

841
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: and sleeping with you know, it'd be all kind of stuff.

842
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know I'm speaking through

843
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 2: the You know, y'all know what I'm talking about because

844
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to put everybody's business out there. But

845
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it'd be stuff that

846
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: women be going through because it'd be a lot going

847
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: on behind the scenes. And then when it's time fit

848
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: to pop off and it don't work no more, you know,

849
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: it's damage control to be happening. And then they got

850
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: to back up, and then they end up getting buried

851
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: and you don't it's like you call it you again,

852
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: that not don't you call it no more? Don't care

853
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: what you gotta do changed she I don't care if

854
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: she is on your label. She got to go. At

855
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: the end of the day, you understand what I'm saying.

856
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: You got wives involved, you got you know, you got

857
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: a lot going on. So at the end of the day,

858
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff happened to a lot of

859
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: the people in these spaces that we're talking about too.

860
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, only stories and I heard

861
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: I've heard it from people and directly sometimes you know,

862
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: but I don't want to put people business out there,

863
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: but go ahead.

864
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so even so, it's the same what I was

865
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: go touch on was even in the Bay? Had you?

866
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marvelous, what are the females? Who else was in

867
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: the Bay?

868
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: So so Marvelous is not from the Bay, although she's

869
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: although she's loved by the bab she's from Sacramento, was

870
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: an adopted Baying, but she's from Sack. She liked the

871
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: Rep Sack too.

872
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: You know.

873
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: It's a whole different world, but it's still connected. In

874
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: some capacity. So you had Marvelous and then you have

875
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 2: people sporadically even from there. It was a girl named

876
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 2: Pinky Cold Dumb y'all remember that song you Pinky, Yeah,

877
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: Pinky was out there and then in the Bay. You

878
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: at of course myself, I'm the biggest West female artists

879
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: from northern California, the first and the biggest female that

880
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,479
Speaker 2: ever left California on cross country and then the nation

881
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: first worldwide in nationwide, right. But in between there we

882
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 2: had Oakland three five seven, We had Nick Knack and

883
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: Nick Knack was with Yoya at one point, but they

884
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: you know, she didn't continue with Yoyo in that way,

885
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: but Nick Knack, she was from the Bay and she

886
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: went to l A. And then you had you had

887
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: the Conscious Daughters and so CMG and Special One tour

888
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 2: we toured together you know for years still yeah, yes,

889
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: Special One. Yes. So you had TMG and a Special

890
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: One and that's the Conscious Daughters, and then you had Mystic.

891
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: Mystic was for the moment. Yeah, she was a hit

892
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: in and out, you know, but she was there. She

893
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: was in the Bay. I think she would have survived

894
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: if she stayed in the Bay, but she ended up

895
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: coming to La, and then I think she got caught

896
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: up in the label stuff and then you know, bam,

897
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: it was over. So it didn't last long. And then

898
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 2: and then she tried to stay out there. But obviously

899
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: I don't you know, properly couldn't survive, you know, in

900
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 2: that space. But you know, maybe if she was home,

901
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 2: one of us might have could have kept her going

902
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: or something. But AnyWho, you know, I'll be scared to

903
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: leave my post, you know what I mean. I'll go temporarily,

904
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: but I'm not leaving my posts like that. And I

905
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: don't mind coming. I love La and I love to

906
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 2: go other places, but I like to come back home,

907
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm gonna I'm not gonna

908
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: set up shop somewhere. Well, I don't know what's gonna happen,

909
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: because once you get somewhere, people get familiar with you.

910
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: It be hot when you're visiting. You know, you get

911
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: stuff done, people make meetings for you, this and that.

912
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: You know, don't talking about them. See when you go

913
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: somewhere else. But once you there permanent, that's when stuff

914
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: start dragging. They know you there now, so they ain't

915
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: gonna move like they you're not there, you see what

916
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So if you're not gonna move, me to

917
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: be home with not moving, because then you could be

918
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: figuring something else out on the way. You know, in

919
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: the middle of it, you feel me at home safely.

920
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: But when you somewhere, you go visit and just wait

921
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: for them to you know, and and let them move

922
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: at that time. Like right now, I'm gonna cast somebody

923
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: and be like, hey, I'm in LA, can you make

924
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: a meeting for me. They'll make a meeting for me.

925
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: They'll push everything around. But if I was in La,

926
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: then it's like, oh, well, you know, I got this

927
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: to dude now, and it'd be a couple of weeks,

928
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: you know, a once, you know, before they bring you

929
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: in it. So I think when you do that, you

930
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: mess stuff up. So anyway, it was her, and then

931
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: it was a couple of more. But they weren't famous

932
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: like that, gel what I'm saying. They just yeah, they

933
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: made some some you know, some some some albums or

934
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: some singles here and there, and then there's some newer ones.

935
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's kalaya and so you know,

936
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: they they're more they're different to me, like kids, you know,

937
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: like they kind of you know, work with the synthesizer

938
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: and you know, on their voices and that kind of stuff.

939
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 2: I never was into that stuff because that just get

940
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 2: on my nervous sound. No that dit if it ain't

941
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: Roger's that doing it. You know what I'm saying. It's

942
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: kind of difficult for me to do it anywhere else

943
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: because you know, you know that kind of thing. But yeah,

944
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: two other ones. Is a white girl I forgot her name,

945
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: and then Kilane I think was her name, and then

946
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: well yeah, okay that was another one's she a white

947
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: girl too?

948
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: She's a white girl. Yeah, yeah, hear uh this other

949
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: white girl. They had the one song and it was

950
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: like that hit and was gone.

951
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, you know, just you know, so

952
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: you know, it's the difference between a legend, you know,

953
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 2: and somebody got popular. So I'm just speaking on the

954
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: actual legends and then some of the ones that came

955
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: after was you know, it just got popular, you know

956
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 2: what I mean?

957
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, what got into wanting to rap? Was it just

958
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: the tied?

959
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 4: Did brothers convince you or did you just like fuck

960
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 4: that I'm gonna start rapping?

961
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: Do I did to stay out of trouble, to be

962
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 2: honest with you, and it had something to do, you know.

963
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: And it was because my brother was rapping and I

964
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: was interested in music because I used to sing it

965
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: coming in and I wrote it actually had to sing

966
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 2: an album singing song that I was playing with before

967
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 2: we put something on Wax and then with studio talk

968
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: before everybody knew him. And then eventually because he was

969
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: looking for artists, so I was like, hey, you know,

970
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: we came to his little casting call, so well, you know,

971
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: it's kind of fun if this was me and some

972
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: of my girlfriends, you know, we were we like to

973
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: stay in the stuff, know, like you and create all

974
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: little neighborhood groups, you know, eliminade on the corner, you know,

975
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: go you know. I was doing hair all kinds of stuff.

976
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: So so that was just another area that I was

977
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: playing with. And then eventually it got like, oh, okay,

978
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: my brothers and them seen that, you know, I had

979
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: talent and believed in me, so, you know, and I

980
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: always trusted and believed in them. And it was the

981
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: way that we can all kind of transition from the

982
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: lifestyle that we all you know, kind of got it

983
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: connected to and was able to you know, re reroute

984
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: our energy into something that was safe and positive and

985
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: you know, allowed us the opportunity to soar in a

986
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: different way, you know what I mean. So I did,

987
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: we did?

988
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 4: What?

989
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: So hip hop saved a lot of people's life.

990
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: It did, and it also ruined a lot of people's

991
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 2: life too, But yeah it did. Yeah it did the

992
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: people that took it and actually did something with it.

993
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: And then just do it to go make a big

994
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: old party and get everybody high and have sex with everybody,

995
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: to take advantage of people because they're famous, and you know,

996
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: and play with people's lives and take up their time

997
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: and you know, and sell them dreams and block them

998
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: from from growing and you know all of that.

999
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: You never dated nobody in the industry.

1000
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: Then I did. Yeah, your ends, I did one? Just one?

1001
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: That's it.

1002
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: Who is that?

1003
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: I ain't telling you. Nobody knows except for nobody knows.

1004
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: Nobody knows me and Tupac was good friends too.

1005
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: You know.

1006
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: He would come to my house as a landing spot

1007
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 2: when he got tired, you know, coming to the bag.

1008
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: So he was my buddy. But but in terms of

1009
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: like the the dating game, I dated some ball players,

1010
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 2: you know, very briefly, and then I really wasn't interested

1011
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: in people in the music industry because I just seen

1012
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: too much of what they was capable of doing on

1013
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: their way, you know. So I was like, nah, I've

1014
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: dienn't have to hurt somebody, you know. And then you

1015
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: get something they in the industry, and they still cut

1016
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: up on you. But you know, at least it's not

1017
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: as bad because I've been married, you know, twice, and

1018
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: you know, they turned into a disaster as well. You know,

1019
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: the first one I was expecting it, but the second one,

1020
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: you know, and the first one he still used my

1021
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: name to this day trying to get people to have

1022
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: conversations with him, you know, and he was a hot mess.

1023
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: And then but the second one, I kind of knew

1024
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 2: the possibilities, so it wasn't as bad, you know.

1025
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, then, so let's go back to your husband, right,

1026
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: Did you marry him when he was did you marry

1027
00:53:59,040 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: him when you was out there?

1028
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: And sugar Tea, I did right in the middle of it,

1029
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: which was now.

1030
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: But that's the worst time I was.

1031
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: I was tripping because by goal in my mind, I

1032
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: was like, shoot, my brother's just married. Everybody gone. When

1033
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: I go home and by myself, and he I'm famous.

1034
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: I got a fight with a couple of people when

1035
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: I was famous. I didn't know people act crazy when

1036
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: you're famous. You know. I had to carry my gun everywhere,

1037
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 2: you know, protecting myself. And I was like, you know what,

1038
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: I'm either gonna have to always have a bodyguard, you

1039
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: know that I'm gonna have to pay and may not

1040
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: be able to trust him eventually, or I'm gonna marry

1041
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: somebody that could protect me. And that's what happened. So

1042
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: I went and got the biggest man I could find

1043
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: and scare everybody and tugging his big old butt around,

1044
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: and you know, and and then Joe, he was from

1045
00:54:54,719 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 2: la and and he unfortunately, you know, turned into a

1046
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 2: dog and really took advantage of, you know, of being

1047
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: able to utilize what was around. And I had to

1048
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: separate him from everything, so I could, you know, get

1049
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: him away from my brothers, and so you know, everybody

1050
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: won't hurt him because he was just acting, you know,

1051
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: a fool. And you know, it was a mess. So

1052
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: you know, he said one stupid thing coming in the house,

1053
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: you know, coming in my brother's mansion. You know, well,

1054
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: I guess we'll just stay at our little hosts. And

1055
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 2: my brother was like, you never bring to my house.

1056
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 2: So he messed up. I'm like, oh god, I can't

1057
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: even bring him around the family no more. You see

1058
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: something stupid, dummy. You know. This was in my twenties,

1059
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: you know, and so uh yeah, so he messed that

1060
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: up because that just turned into a don't bring that

1061
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: nigga around ever a year, you know. So that was

1062
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 2: a whole different.

1063
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: Things weren't too good and sound like who was he

1064
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 4: was playing that? You know he got it role? Why

1065
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 4: he can't give it to you?

1066
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: Row?

1067
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 4: You know, some of that shit always reflects on niggers

1068
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 4: who be insecure and jealous. I guess you feel me.

1069
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: Well, the thing about it was, I actually was when

1070
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: I met him, I had a nice, big, old three

1071
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: story house everything at twenty four, you know what I mean.

1072
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: But he was jealous of that. Yeah, yeah, he came

1073
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: in jealous and that you know, I ain't gonna pay

1074
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: your house for you to you know, And you know,

1075
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: made some bad decisions by trying to please him, because

1076
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: my goal was let me get somebody, you know, it

1077
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: makes sense, and let me have this coverag so I

1078
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 2: don't have to deal with this in my career. You know,

1079
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: I could be locked into something, you know what I mean.

1080
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: But it wasn't the right thing to do. That was

1081
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: probably the dumbest thing I could have ever done. But

1082
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: my attentions meant well. But at the end of the day,

1083
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 2: you know, it was some would you say you did

1084
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: it for the wrong reason. It was something for the

1085
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: wrong reason.

1086
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 3: So I think, huh he said you were twenty four

1087
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 3: at the time. Yep, yeah, see that was the wrong

1088
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 3: That was part of it. An you out there rapping,

1089
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 3: you know, you out there doing shows and stuff.

1090
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 2: Was he jealous, super jealous, jealous for me and jealous.

1091
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: Of me both and because everybody like us.

1092
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was abusive emotionally, Abusip telling me I'm too dark,

1093
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: I'm too skinny, I'm too bis, I ain't gonna be nobody.

1094
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: I'm too old to be bathroom. Why am I still?

1095
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm twenty four, but I'm too old? You know, he

1096
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 2: was a time. I didn't know it, and eventually I

1097
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: guess because you know, he was a school teacher at

1098
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: the time, and you know, he used to play basketball.

1099
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: That's what I thought he was into from the beginning.

1100
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: So I ain't even gonna lie, you know, because he

1101
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: was tall, sixteen like that, but you know, yep, sixteen.

1102
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: So after investigating a little bit more, he was playing

1103
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 2: overseas and he wasn't playing no more, and so he

1104
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: ended up, you know, being a teacher, you know, and

1105
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: he because of what I would make in you know,

1106
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: two hours, you know, that was his salary for the

1107
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: whole month he works, you know what I mean. So

1108
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: when he started seeing that, oh I could get a

1109
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: feature and get paid four thousand dollars easy, six thousand

1110
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: dollars either you know, for a feature or go off

1111
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: and do a show and come back, he was so jealous,

1112
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: you know, just like, how y'all dumb niggas, y'all country

1113
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: niggas go. He was from Alan, Why y'all country niggas

1114
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: making all this money? How y'all doing that? So I

1115
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: really felt bad for him. I was like, okay, well

1116
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: let me help him, you know, let me help him

1117
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: understand the game. So I put him on. I ain't

1118
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 2: even gonna lie, you know what I mean. I taught

1119
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: on the game. I taught him how to get distribution,

1120
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: and I helped him do a TD and you know,

1121
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: God on his one for him, you know, was his

1122
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: little his woman on it, you know, and and then

1123
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: I helped him put one together. I even let no

1124
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 2: he was trying to beat you a compilation of a

1125
00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: record label.

1126
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Dutch do?

1127
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know I kind of supported him just

1128
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: so he could feel.

1129
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: Comfortable as this woman he was holding down.

1130
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So but he really, you know, took advantage

1131
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: of that, and it was not I never really talked

1132
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: about this on So this is our first interview talking

1133
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: about him, because I don't ever really get off into

1134
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: that because he crazy about me now like he I mean,

1135
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: you know, he still feels so stupid, you know, because

1136
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm still here and survived, and you know, and at

1137
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: the end of the day, he went through some he

1138
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: got into some trouble, and I could have he could

1139
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: have went totally down if because they you know, if

1140
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: I would have testified against him, which that's what the

1141
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: people was trying to get me do. But I was like,

1142
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: nah doing that. If y'all want him, y'all got to

1143
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: figure it out. You know, that was a long time ago.

1144
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm not kind of mess up nobody's life, you know,

1145
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: even though he damned the messed up mind, because it

1146
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: took a long time to get back on so many levels.

1147
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm like, I'm not going to be

1148
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 2: the cause of that, you know what I'm saying. God,

1149
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: God is gonna he got something for him, you know.

1150
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: So so you know, he really appreciated that because I

1151
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 2: really could have too and down because he was facing

1152
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: twenty years to life and it's something I knew he

1153
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: didn't do. But he was a jigglo. So he was

1154
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: the type of a woman just want to set him up,

1155
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and get him in trouble

1156
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: because he was, you know, manipulating and sneaky, you know,

1157
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: and play with these women's you know what I mean,

1158
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 2: playing with go and play with lawyers and you know

1159
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 2: he'd throw them in my face. Well I got there.

1160
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: He could be I could be with a lawyer, you

1161
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: know that now. In fact, he part of the reason

1162
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: why I got an education too, because he thought he

1163
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: was so smarty pans.

1164
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 4: He wanted he wanted them slick cond niggas man he

1165
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 4: want't slick cond.

1166
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: You know when he's still moving around like that too.

1167
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 4: He wanted he wanted them to sleep. Jigglo cod diggers

1168
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 4: bad jet in her back pocket. Digging she opened up

1169
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 4: the whole purse.

1170
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but some of them got his. But they

1171
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: put a couple of babies on him through the years.

1172
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: You know, he was crazy enough to tell me all

1173
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: his business and they and everything he wanted.

1174
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: I can get the respecials that were around it.

1175
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 4: Oh he got me for like forty thousand, and he

1176
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 4: took my old life savings.

1177
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: A lot of business. But he has things going on.

1178
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, you.

1179
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: Know, well, you know, before we do, I want to

1180
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 3: talk to you. You got this new record coming up,

1181
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 3: I do. I do this game. You know, you know what.

1182
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 3: It's called beat it Up. So give me some context.

1183
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to like call beat it.

1184
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: Up to get that on my head because he he

1185
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 2: ain't got my head over there. Okay, So I was

1186
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: going to stay this Okay, So he's still to this

1187
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: day he had called me and be like, you know,

1188
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: touch and such, want to talk to hi. I'm like,

1189
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: who touch and such? Know, I was out of me

1190
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 2: out of all people, you know, like you around somebody

1191
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: you jumping me on the phone, sit on the phone

1192
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: having conversations with people. That's the probably the opening you know,

1193
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: Oh my, that's like she needs to do this so

1194
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: he can get a conversation going on using me. So

1195
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: he's still using me. And don't call me no more

1196
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: when you're around people. Stop. You know, it's terrible.

1197
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 4: Still a man, I know a few of them. Man,

1198
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 4: they and what they.

1199
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: And you know how to piff on piff the pip

1200
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: you feel me?

1201
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was going to say to.

1202
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 3: I think it's so hard for the baby, for women

1203
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 3: in the Bay because the West Coast is all about

1204
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 3: temp coach fifting, gangster coaching, right, So I think it's

1205
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 3: just I don't think we push our females like we

1206
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 3: should they you know.

1207
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 2: Tell the truth. I just said, just see it. It's

1208
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: a shame. That's why these girls been able to run

1209
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 2: a mak That's why these girls got all these kids

1210
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: turned out. Now they got all their grandkids and stuff.

1211
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 2: Humping on each other. The girls humping on each other,

1212
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 2: don't know who they is, you know, thinking if that's

1213
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: fun and it's the thing to do, plan you know,

1214
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: with life like that. And then you got you know,

1215
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: the girls wanting to go get on the strip poles

1216
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: jump on only fans or want to listen to their

1217
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: mama thinking all these young that's got the answers because

1218
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 2: they didn't support us. That is the real reason. That's

1219
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: the real problem, because it's not wrong with these girls existing.

1220
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: If that's what they want to do, that's great. But

1221
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: they ain't supposed to take the whole plate like that.

1222
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: That ain't cool, you know what I mean. They just

1223
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: let them run a mock, you know. And yes, that's

1224
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: why I've been able to pay only because I was

1225
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 2: born into the game as a machine, because I know

1226
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: how to keep my own cell phone when I was

1227
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 2: ready to stay home, you know what I mean. But

1228
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: if I wasn't talking to the game, it's nowhere in

1229
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 2: the world. I would have accomplished twenty albums, you know,

1230
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 2: solo albums.

1231
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: You know this one though, It's called beat it Up?

1232
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: Beat it Up, Beat it up?

1233
01:03:58,560 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: Go on?

1234
01:03:58,880 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: Wiggle would it beat it?

1235
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: Uh? Hey?

1236
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: All day long? Is faddy like me? Your long little

1237
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 2: drum boy? I want to beat on my drum original stallion,

1238
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,919
Speaker 2: just having fun, wiggle with it, wiggle wood it beat

1239
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: it up? Good one love to the one that represents

1240
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 2: the hood. Gon't wiggle wood it don't do the most baby,

1241
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: don't play with it. Yeah, I can go on and

1242
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: on hold it down because the DJs can play my song.

1243
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: I did it first.

1244
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: Hard Big for you.

1245
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 2: The record there's a God ex Nam It's ready Rat

1246
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 2: Ready rat, Yeah so ready. Red Production that's his name,

1247
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: Sean Rutherford is his full name. He did that, and

1248
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: uh yeah, he put his foot in that. So I'm

1249
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: really blessed because through the years, although I talk about

1250
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: my little small hiatus and then I talk about how

1251
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: the limited amount support, but I've had a lot of

1252
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: cool producers that just come and lace me and just

1253
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: give me music like hey, sugar, you know what you

1254
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 2: got what you need? You know, and just looking out.

1255
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: So he was one of them producers that's always, you know,

1256
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: I call him like look you got some track, or

1257
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: he called it like look I'm make his track shots

1258
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: if you like it, you know that kind of thing.

1259
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: So Reddy what he's a pretty decent producer. He's from

1260
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: He's in a shoot Arizona, and I think he ended

1261
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: up moving down south somewhere, but yeah, that's where he rat.

1262
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 2: He did that. But I have some good ones. G Cutty,

1263
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: he's on the production as well. I'm a producer. I

1264
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: come in with an idea, and you know, and I

1265
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: get down with him. I have some of the producers

1266
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 2: that will collaborate with me. I may have something that

1267
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: I want to sing, you know, something I want to write,

1268
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: you know, because I do all different type of genres

1269
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: of music. I don't just do hip hop, but I'm

1270
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 2: more known as hip hop, but I sing too. I

1271
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: got a band, and you know, I do classical stuff.

1272
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: I've been going to different like places because this is

1273
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: what I was forced to do to navigate this system.

1274
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: Because the system got a little you know, like we've

1275
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 2: been talking about it. Oh yeah, they kind of the

1276
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: kind of twit us on the back burner, you know,

1277
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 2: burying us. And you know, nobody had that life jacket.

1278
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, where the sister that? Where are bis?

1279
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: What this is that? Where the Queen's that over here?

1280
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Ain't nobody on the West

1281
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: Coast did that to us, None of us.

1282
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 3: But now that it's hard to black ball somebody or

1283
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 3: not because you can be put your own records out now.

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01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think they trying to black balls.

1285
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 2: I just think that, but in directly it happens, and

1286
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: I don't think I think it's just the ignorance because

1287
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: they're so busy trying to keep their cell phone and

1288
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: you know, so busy. It's all about money and muscle.

1289
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 2: And then some of them got to please a white

1290
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: they got to please the system. They're trying to stay

1291
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 2: you know, in the front. Some of them trying to

1292
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: stay young, and you know, and they're not mature enough

1293
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 2: to really see the importance of that balance, you know

1294
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 2: what I mean, Because a lot of them, I've heard

1295
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 2: conversations where they don't think it's a problem with these

1296
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: girls being stinking like this. They're like, oh, well, you know,

1297
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: they just doing anything. They getting their money. I'm like,

1298
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: but god, dog, I mean, I want this whole industry

1299
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: to just become a strip fast for girls. It's what

1300
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 2: you want. You think that's okay.

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01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 3: They go to school and they friends got their phones

1302
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 3: out and they're like, look at such a sex mama, look

1303
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 3: at such a SiGe mama.

1304
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And what may gonna take you serious? Are

1305
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 2: they really gonna want is either the pimp you out?

1306
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'll be happy to get

1307
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: a lot of these girls and beat the men, keep

1308
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 2: them in the videos and stuff. And I'll be trying

1309
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: to mentor them. You know, girls, stop letting this this.

1310
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 2: These men have you over here with your tail out

1311
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 2: and shaking and hopping on the floor and stuff. You know,

1312
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,439
Speaker 2: don't tell them, no, I don't work. You dance, so dance, don't.

1313
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,439
Speaker 2: You ain't gotta do all that. Tell them you want

1314
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: to dance in the video. You don't want to work.

1315
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: They tell them you don't do that more, you know

1316
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Because the guys, they really take advantage

1317
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: of these girls and they be up there ready to go,

1318
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, it's sad.

1319
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when is the record dropping?

1320
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: So the record is it's basically already dropped the video.

1321
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 2: We just shot the videos. So the video should be

1322
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 2: dropping within the next week. He should be finished with

1323
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: it within the next week. I've been, you know, sprinkling

1324
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: some on my website at Sugar Tea Official, and it's

1325
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 2: some bangers on there. Like I was fighting between It's

1326
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: a song called Baddy, you know what I mean. It's

1327
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 2: it's raw. It's like it's the bumping right that's gonna

1328
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 2: be the next and so you know, I was tweling

1329
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 2: between that one and baddy. But the reason why I

1330
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 2: picked that one because I'm like, okay, this one goes,

1331
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 2: we'll blow the whistle. So you know what, you got

1332
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: that feeling of that, you know, a little bit of

1333
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: swag and talk a little snack and give him a

1334
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 2: little legend reminder and you know, you know, speak a

1335
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 2: little some things into existence. You know, they're gonna be

1336
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: listening to me for the next ten years, twenty years,

1337
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: the next few decades, that kind of thing. But the

1338
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 2: baddy gonna be coming behind now, you know. Is it's raw.

1339
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 2: I'm from the hood for real, y'all. Just say acting

1340
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: like it, her baby daddy like it. You ain't got

1341
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: to like it. Them dudes on my bump, but they

1342
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: be trying to watch me. But you MISSI with silly girls,

1343
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,520
Speaker 2: and I like me. The weaves all fleak, the pope.

1344
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: Weak, I see you, I see you know what I'm saying.

1345
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 2: Just just to give them a little something to, you know,

1346
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 2: to keep them, keep them up up on you know,

1347
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 2: clarity that you know, because I'm always doing positive stuff image,

1348
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: you know, but they have to also understand that there's

1349
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 2: the other side that can come out at any given moment.

1350
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 1: You know, Well, so for sure, for sure.

1351
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 3: Man, Well, I appreciate you coming to sit down and

1352
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 3: bless us with your legendary status and some indeed.

1353
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me in oh eight over there, look

1354
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: at you.

1355
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just hanging. I'm just hanging.

1356
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: I ain't seeing you in a minute, yes, ma'am, I

1357
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: think last years ago. Yeah, we got to try to

1358
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 2: see the repping right.

1359
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm doing a little something. I'm working on the

1360
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: project right now.

1361
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Well keep me in the loop, like you know,

1362
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 2: say a verse, gave me a verse. I get on there,

1363
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: show out with you.

1364
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: You got you. I'm not there. Have still call you up,

1365
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: sending you a beat or something.

1366
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get it. Let's get it. Yeah, anything you

1367
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 2: saying you want some, you know if you want to

1368
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 2: put some. You know you know that mob, you know

1369
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 2: that my music with that time and name ranging made

1370
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: your factor fed. Yeah with Lawyersanna young man.

1371
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: You know you can sing.

1372
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't let him know, mate, let him know, let

1373
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: him know, let him know. Of course.

1374
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: Boy, Well still go death be hard. You got you

1375
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: on something?

1376
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I'm a real singer. I'm just a singer

1377
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 2: in a rappers brand.

1378
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: So you got his mind clicking right now, I see

1379
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: him getting busy. Yeah, you have to saying really well,

1380
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: you need to be pushing it.

1381
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,440
Speaker 2: I do. I got sing an album Sunny.

1382
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: You need to be pushing your line. That beautiful voice.

1383
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1384
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: I have been actually on my page, they have song

1385
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 2: Shirley Murdoch's voice. I did a throw back, you know,

1386
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: and now it's time for us to say goodbye.

1387
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: Yah, stop playing man on the compilation or something.

1388
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm messing with her. Man, I'm messing with

1389
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 3: it all man. Well, man on that note, Man, we

1390
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 3: out of here.

1391
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1392
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: Thanks for Yeah, let's go, y'all boutique. Go to the

1393
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: sugar rush dot com and get old twenty albums the

1394
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: sugar rush dot com. Yes, and don't heard what she said.

1395
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 2: Sprinkle chop, sprinkle me. You deserve to be sprinkled.

1396
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:40,839
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed.

1397
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 3: Well that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,559
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