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Your 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Vikings are playing the Rams on Thursday night, right after 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: a difficult loss to the Lions. We decided to instead 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: of chasing down a Rams fan on short notice, we 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: would do a follow up episode to probably the biggest 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: and best game in the NFL so far this year 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: and look forward as well. We brought Zach Martina back 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: to break down the thirty one to twenty nine Lions 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: win and talk about a little bit of stuff in 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: the future. I think you guys are gonna love it, 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: and hey, please support Zach go see him do some 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: live stand up this weekend Friday October twenty fifth and 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: Saturday October twenty sixth, at the Laugh Camp Comedy Bar 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: in Saint Paul, Minnesota. Tickets are available now at Zachmartine 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: dot com. Enjoy the episode Everybody and the Game. This week, 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: the Rocket Ricketts, I mean your Minnesota Vikings have lost 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: their first game of the year against what some people 26 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: believe to be the best team in the NFC, perhaps 27 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL. We brought Zach Martinez back, 28 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: no pomp, no circumstance on the introduction here, just Zach 29 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: is back. His team won. I'm bitter and frustrated. Zach, 30 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: let me ask you. 31 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: I am not bitter and frustrated. 32 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: That's you know, That's not what I was going to 33 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: ask you. You know, I was going to ask you 34 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: something different, and I was leaving a space in there 35 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: due to my anger. 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: Well, okay, I'm sorry. I just I misread that. I apologize. 37 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, you totally misread it. So my There's been 38 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: kind of two schools of thought about the Vikings loss 39 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: to the Lions on Sunday. One is, hey, we went 40 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: toe to toe with the one of the best teams 41 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL, probably the best team in the NFC. 42 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: We were right there till the end. We almost had 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: it right. And then the other school of thought is 44 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: it was closer than it seemed. If we don't get 45 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: that scoop and score it's they might push it out 46 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: like it really wasn't as competitive as the tightly contested 47 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: end made it seem as a lion's feil. And on 48 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: the winning side, how did you see it? How did 49 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: you receive the Vikings performance? 50 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: I saw it more as the former. That was the 51 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: entire game. I mean, first of all, credit to Vikings fans. 52 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: I'm watching at home, and that stadium was insane. That 53 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: stadium was so insane at the beginning of the game 54 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: that I mean I looked at my wife and I 55 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: was like, this is gonna be a problem. 56 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: It was. I mean, you could feel it. I could 57 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: feel it in Michigan. It was crazy. So credit to 58 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: the Vikings fans. They came out cool. 59 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. I love your compliment on our stadium. Guy, 60 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm in a bad mood. I'm in such a bad mood. 61 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm in such a bad it's. 62 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: The state of the art. You guys made a good investment. 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: You guys made a good investment in that state. 64 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: I know what you're doing. Everybody thinks Oh, that is 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: very nice of Zact, But I know what you're doing. 66 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Just make your damn point. Quit buttering me up with golf. 67 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Dam that sure is a loud stadium. You got there, Now, 68 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: let me cut you down. Would you like to Would 69 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: you like to talk about the juicy lucies in town? 70 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: No, I'm still recovering from the one I had last man. 71 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: But what I will say is that thing you guys 72 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: do before the game, with like this whole clappy thing, 73 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: I will that's cool. 74 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: I will drive to Michigan and throw you in a 75 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: great lake. 76 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: My choice, though, I get to choose the lake. I 77 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: would say that it was the The game was very, 78 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: very entertaining. I was never I was never ever comfortable 79 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: the entire game. That seemed like two teams that were 80 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: playing for something that wasn't, in my opinion, one team 81 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 3: that was far and away better than the other team. 82 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: I know you mentioned that scoop and score and things change. 83 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: But on the flip side, you know, yes, the call 84 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: was right on the Brian Branch stripsack. I'm sorry, the 85 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: strip and run into the end zone. Yes he was out, 86 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: but they're like, oh, it was closer than it was. 87 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: The ball was moving, when was it moving? Like that 88 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: could have gone a different way as well, and then 89 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: it's a then it's a total blowout. 90 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 91 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: I think it was just I think it was a 92 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: very competitive game. I was not comfortable even. I mean 93 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: when they at that the end of the game, when 94 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: they're like, no, we're gonna have one second on the clock. Still, 95 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: I was like I was at that Thursday night game 96 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: where Aaron Rodgers through the Hail Mary for Green Bay 97 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: and beat the Lions like a sixty five yard thing 98 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: with one second left. And I mean there is a 99 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: little bit of PTSD from that. So I was not 100 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: comfortable until that game. 101 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: Read Zeros, I think you said it right. It felt 102 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: like two teams playing for something. And this has been 103 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: my talking point, like everybody's really jacked about this defense, 104 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: and I am as well. Here's ing. I'm a guy 105 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: who knows nothing about anything, but if you look globally 106 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: at the NFL, dominant defenses are never truly dominant anymore. 107 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: That's not how the league works. Once you get to 108 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs, if you are gonna win three or four 109 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: games against great football teams, somebody's gonna put a thirty, 110 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty eight on you. The Cleveland Browns, they 111 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: go to the playoffs last year as this vaunted unreal 112 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: defense and CJ. Stroud throddles them. If you think of 113 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: the teams that are in the upper crest of the league, right, 114 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: you think about I mean, even though the Texans lost 115 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: to the Green Bay Packers, but you think about the Texans. 116 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: You think about the Chiefs, right, you think about the Bills, 117 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: You think about the Lions, the Niners who are down 118 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: this year. But you think about the Eagles, you think 119 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: about the Packers. These are all teams that on any 120 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: given week, they have a lot of weapons and they 121 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: can put points up. I'm not gonna say they're gonna 122 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: do it constantly, but the idea that you're gonna walk 123 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: into the NFL playoffs and hold three or four of 124 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFL under twenty four points 125 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: is complete and utter nonsense. And so to me, what 126 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: a great defense is is it's a defense that holds 127 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: teams in the regular season most of the time, has 128 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: its lapses. But then when you get in one of 129 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: those situations where you're gonna give up a thirty plus, 130 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: like the Vikings did on Sunday. Can they make the 131 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: crucial stops in the crucial moments, right, you get the 132 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: big stop early, you get the lead, but then after 133 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: giving up those four straight scoring drives, they have a 134 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: couple of crucial stops, including the scoop and score, But 135 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: I think just as important to stop after the scoop 136 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: and score. So that was, Yeah, that was a situation. 137 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: Like anybody who had any problem with the defense, I 138 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: just don't see it. You're playing the best offense in 139 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: the league and you go in there and with all 140 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: the money on the line, scoop and score to take 141 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: the lead, and here, offense, here's the ball with four 142 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: minutes left. Like that is a super Bowl defense. To me, 143 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: that's what a super Bowl defense will will do in 144 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: a big time playoff game. And I think the tough 145 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: thing is you get that two point conversion or you 146 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, you complete that, you know that flood concept 147 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: on third down and it's we're just having different conversations here, 148 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: but absolutely, you're right. It didn't feel like a game 149 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: that truly truly meant something. 150 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: And we yes, we're talking that. You know, the Lions 151 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: put up thirty one points, but it's not you guys 152 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: put up twenty nine and had you gone for the 153 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: pat or thing's gone different. Obviously you had to go 154 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: for the two. I get that. But if the Pats there, 155 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: like you put up a thirty banger too, the offense, 156 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: like your offense can put up points. 157 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: I do think that the offense put up twenty three. 158 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: That's true. 159 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: That's always the caveyat. 160 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you take that regard, you take seven away 161 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: from us, and we put up twenty four because Brian 162 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: Branch had that Brian Ranch had that pick. 163 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: I thought, but I thought he scored and he did. 164 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: They reverse the scoop and scored. 165 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it's remembered, but I will say, yeah, it 166 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: did feel like they It did feel like they played. 167 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: Both played for something that was an intense game the 168 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: entire time. 169 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: That was good football. I've never seen pre snap looks 170 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: like I did on your defense. 171 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: Even though it didn't work out. You know, the thing 172 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: before is it like we're gonna fight fire with fire. 173 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: We're they're gonna come at us defensively, We're gonna Obviously 174 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: that did not pan out. Jared Goff had a hell 175 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: of a day. But the argument is maybe it did 176 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: pan out because it was only thirty one points and 177 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: you got the stops that allowed you the chance to win. 178 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: I just don't know with all those weapons how consistently, 179 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: how consistently you can stop a team like that. But 180 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: what the hell is happening? Like, I know Jared Goff, 181 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: it worked, and you're like, oh, his career is resurrected, 182 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: But now it's like shifting into something different. Were like, 183 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: what the hell? What was the stat you told me 184 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: before the show? 185 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: In the last four games, the Lions as a team 186 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: have scored eighteen touchdowns and in that amount of time 187 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: they have only had sixteen incompletions. 188 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: That's one of the most bonkers things I've heard in Earth. 189 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: Only teams in the only team since the merger to 190 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: do something like that. 191 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I is there. So what's the flaw with Jared Goff? 192 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: What's the thing? Because here's the thing. I'm not going 193 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: to sit there and believe that you believe like I 194 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: kind of feel the way the Chiefs fans do when 195 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is out there. So going the rest of 196 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: the season, what's the what's the thing that's in the 197 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: back of your brain that you go if this happens 198 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: with Jared Goff, We're in trouble. What's the It's clearly 199 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: not blitzing him. No, because it's not just us. He's 200 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: like the best quarterback against the blitz in the whole league. 201 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: What is the concern? 202 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: It's not just Jared Goff. We have at this point 203 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: undeniably the best line in the NFL. We have a 204 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: top five run blocking grade. We have a top five 205 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: pass blocking grade. I think we're the only line in 206 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: the league that has that right now. 207 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: Do you remember when that draft happened and everybody wanted 208 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: you guys to get Jamar Chase and you and I 209 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: were texting and you got Piney Sewell and we were 210 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: we were both so pumped for you, Dude, I would 211 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: because I thought I thought he'd just be a Hall 212 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: of Famer on a garbage team for twenty years. I 213 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: didn't know this was happening. I would have been less 214 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: pumped if I knew this was about to happen. But man, 215 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: you want to talk about an all time decision. Yep, 216 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: that decision is chief amongst the reasons you guys are where, dude. 217 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: I mean, we were texting about it. I was on 218 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: stage at go bananas. When that draft pick came in, 219 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: and I was like doing live. I was not paying 220 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: attention to the set. I was paying attention to the draft, 221 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: and when that came in, I had to stop and 222 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: I had to convince Cincinnati fans why this was so 223 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: good for Detroit and they didn't care. Sure, I had 224 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 3: to dig out of a hole, but I did it 225 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: because it was that kind of love for that kind 226 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: of pick. But what it was, what I was saying, 227 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: is like, yes, our line is great. We do not 228 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: have Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes I think plays very much. 229 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: So he knows the game obviously, but he plays on instinct, 230 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: he plays on athleticism. He can move like Jared Goff 231 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: has shown to be a far more analytical quarterback than 232 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 3: I ever thought. You know, he got such a bad 233 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: rep in LA and then he got here the first 234 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: year and Detroit was not happy. 235 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: I thought he was. I was. I was happy. 236 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: I was like, this guy went to the super Bowl. 237 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford never had won a playoff game. Like this 238 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: guy went to the super Bowl. Let's not let's not 239 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: burn the house down, okay, And then all of a 240 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: sudden he gets that's weird. 241 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: That's I'm gonna tell you. I don't admire that about you. 242 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: I think that's really dumb reasoning. I hate that about 243 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: you that you thought that I don't. 244 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: Remember what the Lions were before, Like I had to 245 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 3: look on the right side. 246 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: It was Matt Stafford's I just this is how anybody 247 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: who wonders like the type of people we bring on 248 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: the show, but you specifically, if you wonder, is like, 249 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: are these people truly die hard fans? Like the fact 250 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: that because I don't think you're making stuff up for 251 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: show's sake right now, I do think that's real. 252 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: I would never sign. 253 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: I do think that when you traded a Hall of 254 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: Famer for a guy who had gotten worked in the 255 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl by Bill Belichick, you were like, it's simple football, 256 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: myth brother. One of them has been to the Super 257 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: Bowl and one of them hasn't. It wasn't wild, but 258 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: I do, unfortunately believe it. 259 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: It wasn't that Sack. 260 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: I was obviously, I was very intrigued by the two 261 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: first round draft picks that we were going to get. 262 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: I could not believe that that first year the Rams 263 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: were so bad and our second draft pick was that high, 264 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: like it worked out great. But when Jared Goff came yes, 265 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: I was bummed that Matthew Stafford was leaving because he 266 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: was built Ford tough, all right, that guy he played hurt. 267 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 3: I mean those soundbites of him when he's all jacked up. 268 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: The city loved him absolutely. 269 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: I was just saying people were ready to do the 270 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: nineteen sixties Detroit Riots again when Jared Goff came in, 271 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: and I was like, let's let's not strike the matches 272 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: quite yet. However, I will say we had I think 273 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: that was yeah, that was Campbell's first year and we 274 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 3: brought Anthony Lynn in as our offensive coordinator and that 275 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: was not That was no bueno. It did not work 276 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: out well. Mid season we had a party to the 277 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: ways and Ben Johnson came up to start calling the plays. 278 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: However, Dan Campbell that year reserved the right. 279 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 3: He's like, I'm gonna call these plays, all right, why 280 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: don't you take a shot, Like he really tried. 281 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson out. Then that second year, where Ben. 282 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: Johnson was the first first year all season coordinator, you 283 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: could tell that he and Goff spent the entire offseas 284 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: together building an offense and it didn't click. 285 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: Right away. 286 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: It didn't click until the second half of that second season. 287 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, we're putting up points. All of 288 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: a sudden, Amen, Rossi, and Brown looks like, how did 289 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: you find this guy in the fourth round? So I 290 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: think what it comes down to is, yes, the line 291 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: is giving him time. They're giving him, they're giving him 292 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: a chance to make good decisions while being blitzed. But 293 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: I think it is that the offensive coordinator is smart 294 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: enough to have built an offense around the talents of 295 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: an individual, and it is allowing that player to shine. 296 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: Sure, I'm looking at your guys' schedule because like, I 297 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: need to look forward. That's who I am. I have 298 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: to look forward. Your next three games are interesting. Our 299 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: next three games are interesting. You have you go Titans 300 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: and then at Packers, at Texans. Right and late in 301 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: the season, you have Bills and Niners, which normally you'd 302 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: be sitting here with like the Ayuke injury, with all 303 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: this stuff, you'd be like, well, I don't know that 304 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: the Niners are gonna matter. That division is not a 305 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: very good football division right now, and who knows if 306 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: that'll matter. But these next three weeks are going to 307 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: be interesting. You have this opportunity if you put the 308 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: Titans down and you go into these two really tough 309 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: back to back matchups Packers Texans, which Joe, by the way, 310 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: we won both of those games. But if you if 311 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: you get those it gets really really fun for you guys. 312 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 313 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: But the Vikings having played those guys, I mean, we're 314 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: coming in the next three. I think that this week 315 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: what an interesting testament to Oh hey, they just posted 316 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: the Anthony Edwards justin Jefferson redo of the Moss Garnett picture. 317 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: I mean, tonight is the Timberwolves tip off, so it 318 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: is very cool. It is very cool. I don't generally 319 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: like stuff like that. Zach, I will throw your whole 320 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: house in a great lake. Don't condescend me. But if 321 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: you can get this Rams game on a quick turn on, 322 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: I think this is people are gonna think I'm an idiot. 323 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: This is probably the biggest game of the season because 324 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: you came out and Zach, excuse me, Jay is laughing 325 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: at me like I'm an idiot. I'll throw him in 326 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: the lake too. Honestly, I'm ready to retire. 327 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: This sounds like you're ready to retire a lot of people. 328 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then retire myself. It's gonna be it's gonna 329 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: be a double retire side retire situation. Zach. 330 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: It sounds like we all need a bath at this point. 331 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Stop stop, stop both of you. Stop it. 332 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: Let me. 333 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: Let me tell you why I think this RAMS game 334 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: is the most important game of the season. Now, there 335 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: might be a more important game in the future. But 336 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: no one expected this team to be anything. They were 337 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: slotted for fifth in or excuse me, fourth in the division. 338 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: I think some people probably hadn't fifth. That's how mean 339 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: people were beingto this football team. 340 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 2: There's only four teams. 341 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: I understand. That's the joke. 342 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: Zach. 343 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: Oh, Zach, I'll set your car on fire. 344 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 3: I was just questioning your math skills because I believe 345 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: your predict prediction for the game was one hundred and 346 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: twenty nine to six based on six safety. 347 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Hey, this is why we don't do review shows. This 348 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: is why it's a preview show and not a review show. 349 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: But so the team comes out, they go five and zero, 350 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: they knock off three teams that everybody think are contenders, 351 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden there's this like, oh my gosh, 352 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: who are they? And the interesting thing for me is 353 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: I don't think they're surprised by it. I don't think 354 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the players are surprised, but I 355 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: think they're like, yeah, man, this is who we thought 356 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: we were. And one thing I heard about in the 357 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: locker room after the game is they were pissed. They 358 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: were They genuinely took that game extremely hard, which continues 359 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 1: to tell me that this team. I often think that 360 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: players especially really know who they are basically in the preseason, 361 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: right they know they see the guys on the field. 362 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: It's the funniest thing about drafting. You know, you get 363 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: these guys in you draft a quarterback or receiver and 364 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: you're like, I think they're gonna make it, Like they 365 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: don't look good now, Like there's this whole narrative. But 366 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: I think every player, like two weeks into training camp, 367 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: is like that guy doesn't have it. Yep, be never 368 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: gonna have it. You can sell it to the fans, 369 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: but it's not there. Players know, especially veteran teams. This 370 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: is the fifth oldest team in the NFL, so I 371 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: think they knew who they were coming into this year. 372 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: And you get this first loss, and it's the first crack, 373 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: and you can't go lose this Rams game. You can't 374 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: be slat like. This is the sort of game like 375 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: if you are who you thought you were and who 376 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: the rest of the world didn't think you were. This 377 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: is the game on a short turn on where you 378 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: have to go. That sucked. We should have won that game. 379 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: We let it slip through our hand. We were sloppy 380 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: at times and we had the opportunities and we blew it. 381 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: Now we are going to go into a bad RAMS 382 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: team and we are going to execute, and we are 383 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: going to defeat them, and then we're just gonna keep moving. 384 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Like to me, locker rooms are weird places, and they 385 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: build upon moments. If you go in and you let 386 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: this one slip and play bad, it can really seed 387 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: some doubt. But you go in and do what you're 388 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: supposed to do, and then you have Colts, Jags, Titans. Yeah, 389 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: it gets really, really interesting, and our two teams might 390 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: be on a collision path towards the end of the year. 391 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: I do think that we are on a collision I mean, 392 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: anytime you see a divisional game in the last week 393 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: of the season, there are certain butterflies that come with 394 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: it to any football fan, like that could be. 395 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 2: For the division. 396 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: I am not surprised at all that your locker room 397 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: was upset after that loss. 398 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 2: The way that both teams. 399 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: Played, like I said earlier, like they were playing for something, 400 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 3: and when you don't get the thing that you've worked 401 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: so hard for, yeah, you're gonna be upset. I agree 402 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: with you also that you gotta win this uh, this 403 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: RAMS game. You've got to win this RAMS game based 404 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 3: on I think to get. 405 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: Not not not buy back in. 406 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what the phrase would be, but like 407 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: just to get that motor going back in the right direction. 408 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: I will also, as a Lions fan, just let you 409 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: know that whoever the Lions play the next week, that 410 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: team has lost because they are And this is what 411 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: analysts say from the other the other markets, Arizona, even 412 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 3: Tampa Bay, who beat us Lions, beats you up. 413 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 2: You're sore and you're on a short week. 414 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: I yeah, they're unlike the other football teams who hit 415 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: you when you play against what they don't. 416 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: Hey, sorry, you've seen Dan Campbell. 417 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: You've smelled his chew from watching a press conference through 418 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: your internet connection. They different, all right, this team's all 419 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: about grit mc DC baby, But I do I do 420 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: think that this short week is not great on That's 421 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 3: the only thing I don't like that you guys are away. 422 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: I will say this far and away. Minnesota is my 423 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: second favorite team in the division. Oh cool, So I'm 424 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 3: pulling for you guys on Thursday, I'm pulling for. 425 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm not pulling for you on Sunday at all. And also, 426 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: let me tell you something that's cool. 427 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: Why would you're probably still bitter about last night. 428 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: It's not even just about being bitter. I'm just not 429 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: gonna pull for the other team that's tied with us 430 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: in the division. I want you to drop a big Well, 431 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: you're not. 432 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: Tied in the division. We are first in the division 433 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: based on statistics. 434 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: I want you to drop a big, rotten performance against 435 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: the Titans. And I want you to be like, did 436 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: we lose to Mason Rudolph. I didn't know he was 437 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: in the league. That's what i'd like. Let me and 438 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: the reason that you're getting a little attitude from me 439 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: right here is I'm you know, I want I've pulled 440 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: up our schedules, what we're doing the show, and that 441 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: put me on ESPN dot com, my former haunt, and 442 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: I sure shouldn't read stuff on ESPN dot com my 443 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: former haunt. And I'm very angry, but like I got, 444 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: here's the thing, why would you ever read a power rankings? Ever? 445 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: They're only power rankings are only built so that people 446 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: have something like that, talking heads have something to talk about. 447 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm not an idiot, but like I was, like, Wow, 448 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: Zach's babbling on about caring about us and that we're 449 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: the second team. He's over there lying. Why don't I 450 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: check into where the U is lying? Don't you're fired? 451 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: You're fired? Jay? Jay? Can we cut his? Uh? Can we? 452 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: Can we cut him from his payroll of zero dollars? 453 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: Zero dollars strike season? So the the way they did 454 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: it this week they did the power rankings and then 455 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: they listed who's the young riser on your team? Who's 456 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: the young star on the rise? Who's the young riser? Uh? 457 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: So the Detroit Lions are number two. Who do you 458 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: think the young riser on your team is? Who have 459 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: they penned as the young riser? 460 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: I would say Brian Branch? But does it happen? 461 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: It's Brian Branch? Correct, it is Brian Branch. Now here's 462 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: my problem. Where do you think the Minnesota Vikings Land. 463 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: After that game. 464 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, and I'm not looking, I would 465 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: say top twelve. 466 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: Zach, I am going to jay, I'm never doing a 467 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: review show ever again. Top twelve, our one losses to 468 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: the number two team. We're six. I'm pissed about six. 469 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: You somehow made me more angry then, And maybe that's 470 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: a friendship thing. Maybe you're like, I'm gonna pull say 471 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: out of this moment he's in where he's over spiraling 472 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: on his side monitor about some rankings that don't matter. 473 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: Maybe if I say something insane like top twelve, he'll 474 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: respond to that, and then that'll he'll be like, oh, 475 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: now I'm back in reality. We're six, and oh, by 476 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: the way, we beat the number seven team and the 477 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: number five team and our only losses to the number 478 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: two team. So yeah, it totally makes sense that the 479 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: four and two Baltimore Ravens and the five and two 480 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: Packers should be above us. Great call. 481 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: I don't know that the Packers should be. 482 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens are dismantling people of late, Like, I 483 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 3: don't know, man, do. 484 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 1: You think Derrick Henry rushes for two thousand yards? My 485 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: brother Greg has heavily invested in him getting two thousand 486 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: yards because, as he framed in a text or phrased 487 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: in a text, I am preparing for the inevitable heartbreak 488 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: of being a Minnesota Vikings fans by putting a lot 489 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: of hope. He's cushioning by putting a lot of hope 490 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: in Derrick Henry getting a second two thousand yard season. 491 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: The only I mean, it's certainly a possibility. I think 492 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: the fact that Lamar Jackson is so good at running 493 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: is going to keep him about two to three hundred 494 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 3: yards away from it. 495 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: How do you if you are like, how does it 496 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: get worse? If you're Tennessee right now? Right Like, here's 497 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: the thing. I'm Tennessee two years from now might be 498 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, cause so. 499 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: Give Hellman's Mayo the naming rights to their stadium. 500 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: You could always you never know what a team's rebuild is. 501 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: But in this moment, like they they could have made 502 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: every right decision and two years from now we'll be 503 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: like wow. But right now, you know, AJ Brown has 504 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: been amazing in Philadelphia over the last couple of years. 505 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Whoeverbody's like, yeah, I'm not a big deal. 506 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: He's old might go for two thousand if Mike Brable 507 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: takes the Browns starting quarterback job and leads them to 508 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Like, I don't know how it gets worse, 509 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: but it's not. People are thriving outside their former relationship 510 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to the Texans, as the youngsters say, 511 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: do the youngsters stay thriving outside your former relationship? No? 512 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: I just like saying as the youngsters. 513 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: I don't like they say thriving anymore. However, I did 514 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 3: go see my brother last night with my daughters and Emily, 515 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: and my brother dyed my daughter's hair red and her 516 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: friend saw the hair and called my brother zesty, Oh zesty, 517 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: which I guess is a big compliment. 518 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: Oh he's got like I hadn't heard it before. 519 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: He gallot zi, he's got a little Zach galloz to him. 520 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 3: My brother said it sounds like a very old dressing 521 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: and your refrigerator. 522 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, yeah, gold, do you have 523 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: any of these zesty chips? Yeah, it sounds like a 524 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: flavor of ruffles. I don't like it, but I do 525 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: believe it's important. It's the tough thing Zach about getting 526 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: older as an artist, is I think. If you don't 527 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: spend time around young people, you age out of relevancy 528 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: and an understanding. 529 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: Of the world. 530 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: But the older you get, the harder it is to 531 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: be like, hey, twenty year olds, what do you think 532 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: of life? You just there's just that gap is making 533 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: you weirder when you're like, I just want to know 534 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: what a twenty three year old guy thinks of the world. 535 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: And that's not a good look. As you age beyond forty. 536 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: Here's what aging artists have to do. As you put it, 537 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 3: you have to be able to You have to be 538 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: able to understand the language while refusing to speak it. 539 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: You have to be able to go to Italy and 540 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: know they're talking about you in Italian, but just act 541 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 3: like you only speak English. 542 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: Sure you can't, Yeah you don't. You don't want to 543 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: be the guy at the Mexican restaurant saying I like facias. 544 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: You can't do that. You just have to ask for 545 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: the fajidas and move on. 546 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: And yeah, you don't want to be you don't want 547 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: to be a middle aged man going up be like, 548 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: look at that gyat which I guess is a big booty. 549 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: I hate that. I want the show to be over, Jay, 550 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: I hate that more than I've hated anything that we've 551 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: done in multiple years on this program. 552 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: Well, the Vikings have a wonderfold yet, and I'm so 553 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 3: glad the Lions got to put their foot in net. 554 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: Zach, Zach, I I could not have enjoyed this more 555 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: and less at the same time. 556 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: That's what I like, That's where I like to live. 557 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I want nothing more than 558 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: us to be playing each other in the final week 559 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: of the season with the number one seed on the line. 560 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: I know that's a big dream and a big wish 561 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: and it's a long way to get there, but God damn, 562 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: I want nothing more than that. 563 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: And then you just got to work your way from 564 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: that number six power ranking. 565 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: Jake, could you just cut the show? I just keep 566 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: trying to get out, and he just keeps saying, this 567 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: is why we don't do these, ladies and gentlemen, for 568 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: Jay Nelson, for the Vikings Entertainment Network, and certainly not 569 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: for Zach Martina. 570 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: Come to laugh Camp. 571 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's at laugh Camp. Go see him there this weekend. 572 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: Bye, guys. 573 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: Thanks again to Zach Martina for joining the show, and 574 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: thank you for listening to our podcast feed. Hey, well 575 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: you're here, why don't you give us a like and 576 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: a subscribe, maybe leave a review. 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