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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Black Guy to

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rod, joined us always by my co

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Speaker 1: host here, and.

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Speaker 2: We're live on a Wednesday, ready to do some podcasting.

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Speaker 2: Find us everywhere you get podcasts. Look in the show notes.

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Speaker 2: We have a live show coming up September ninth, three pm,

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Speaker 1: In a day to that, we have a guest today.

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Speaker 2: It's right, it's not just any old day here, all right,

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Speaker 2: we got a guest. Today's guest is content creator, reviewer, influencer,

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Speaker 2: nerd commentator and all around dope person.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic Frankie. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: What's up? Oh? Because I've been on podcasts with Ride

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Speaker 3: before and like every time he speaks, it's so well

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Speaker 3: founded and it sounds so smart, and I'm like, I.

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Speaker 2: Hope I sound this wart, Frankie, this is gonna be

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Speaker 2: a love fast because I feel the same way about you.

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Speaker 2: I follow you on Instagram. I always see your videos.

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Speaker 2: The only reason I only a lot of comments is

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Speaker 2: because I don't like arguing on on social media.

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Speaker 1: But I always like see your videos.

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Speaker 2: I always think you have like such good takes and

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Speaker 2: they're so funny, and you're so like you do this

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Speaker 2: so well, and you really make look like being a

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Speaker 2: center or the focal point of a lot of like

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Speaker 2: nerd discussions. You make it seem so easy, like you

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Speaker 2: do a really good job. So I mean you're killing.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Yeah, it's funny a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: This guy just commented I was going to make a

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Speaker 3: video about it, but then I had to come here

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Speaker 3: about like how problematic I was, And I was like,

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Speaker 3: this is an interesting take to consider me problematic when

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Speaker 3: one I only talk about fictional characters, like I've never

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Speaker 3: like started Internet bee. But I was like, let's really

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Speaker 3: dive into like what it means to like highlight you know,

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Speaker 3: sexism and racism, and the things that we look at

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Speaker 3: and for that to be viewed as problematic. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I speak harshly, but I'm from New York, so this

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Speaker 3: is like the nicest I can I can word it,

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Speaker 3: like I work really hard to sound nice that people

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Speaker 3: be like, you're so mean.

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Speaker 1: Well you are.

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Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, I like I realized this

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Speaker 2: when I was introducing you. When I was picking my

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Speaker 2: internet name, I should have went with something that had

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Speaker 2: fantastic Frankie, like every time we say your name, we're

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Speaker 2: calling you fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Like I should have went fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I should have went with like really cool Rod or something,

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Speaker 2: and then people are like, oh, it's really cool Rod.

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Speaker 2: That way, even when people are mad at you, they

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Speaker 2: Like what's.

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Speaker 1: Happening to here?

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Speaker 3: I never thought about that, But you're right. And it's

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Speaker 3: like you know that Kevin Hart special, Like you're trying

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Speaker 2: What was the origin of the name Fantastic Frankie? Like

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Speaker 3: Honestly? I went to Ghana a while back and I

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Speaker 2: Fantastic Frankie the fanboy fighter. I mean, it's a it's

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Speaker 4: You know, it's all there. What got you into nerd them?

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Speaker 3: where are the black women. I need more of them

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Speaker 4: It's one of those things where for a long time

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Speaker 4: But then I would turn around and get mad about

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Speaker 4: general and everything's fine and nobody questions them. But the

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Speaker 1: How much do you know? Do you know?

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Speaker 4: Like they wanted to check your credentials, and I was like, well, fuck,

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Speaker 4: I don't know so since I don't know, why am

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Speaker 4: death and not.

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Speaker 1: Have an answer.

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Speaker 2: I think it's interesting because one a lot of times

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Speaker 2: you did know, So it's like you're saying you don't

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Speaker 2: ten minute rant about Nintendo and why it's fucked up

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Speaker 1: And then people be writing in and be like, oh my.

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Speaker 2: God, that was so awesome what Karen said, And it was, oh,

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Speaker 2: she's that's such a nerd rant, and I'm mad about

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Speaker 2: enough to where a nerd used to mean like social outcasts,

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Speaker 2: and then nerd kind of changed like between because it

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Speaker 2: sports is for is for cool people. Supposedly, you can

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Speaker 2: doesn't feel like he's gonna get his books thrown in

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that it came across. So I think those

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Speaker 3: But I agree with you, Karen, it's dish pro portion.

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Speaker 3: I can have panels but green screen while I'm talking

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Speaker 3: I agree. I want that girl, Like do you guys

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Speaker 3: remember that video with that Way boy and he's using it.

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Speaker 3: He's like, she's about Glinda the Good Witch, and she's

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Speaker 4: And see funny that's the ship that's you want to

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Speaker 4: burn the motherfucker down because you're like anything that I know,

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Speaker 4: I know it. You know what I'm saying, Like like,

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Speaker 4: spend hundreds of hours playing on a Nintendo console. I've

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Speaker 1: And like I say, just because you.

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Speaker 4: Have a penis, you can swing it around and everybody

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Speaker 4: says it's okay. Anything other than that just doesn't have

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Speaker 4: the authority, and then I'm gonna challenge you on everything.

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Speaker 4: And I think for me, it's very frustrating. And one

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Speaker 4: thing I love about my husband is that we both

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Speaker 4: have to worry about being challenged because there are things

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Speaker 4: that they are quote unquote simple games, but I'm really

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Speaker 1: Well, oh, it's simple because I've literally just spent hours.

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Speaker 2: And I think when you do content that is like listen,

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Speaker 2: It's just you know, poor us. All the women are

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Speaker 4: For something to happen and Zelda have to go through

438
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 4: the process to go get linked the fuck hand the.

439
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 3: Game wild Zelda? Does she have hands? Uh? She?

440
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: I mean she could, but we'll never know, we'll Yeah,

441
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: matter of fact, I wonder.

442
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: If she's in She's gotta.

443
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: Be in Super Smash Bros. Or something, so she probably

444
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: do got hands. I'm about to look that up.

445
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 4: I bet Zelda was like the Google coming up, right,

446
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 4: because that's that's one of my personal gripes as somebody.

447
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: Who Zelda is a playable character in Super Smash Bros.

448
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: Ultimate So right there.

449
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 1: She got hands, That's what I'm talking.

450
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you can do it for Princess

451
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 4: Peaching the New Mario movie, you can do it for Zelda.

452
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: I don't get it.

453
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it is wild, and like the idea. I mean, look,

454
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: they could be right, they could be wrong. I doubt

455
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: they're right. But think about this, the idea that the

456
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: new Zelda game is going to get Game of the Year,

457
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: it seems from everybody, but their ideas. Like but if

458
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: it starred actual Zelda, people wouldn't even play it, which

459
00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 2: is like super wild to even conceive of as a concert.

460
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: And it doesn't make sense. But like this and I

461
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 4: know this was a quote unquote be a compromise. I

462
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 4: wouldn't even mind if you do. Like a lot of

463
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 4: games do now where you can switch between the two characters,

464
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 4: how ones in one place, once in another place, and

465
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 4: they're kind of trying to get to each other, like they.

466
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: Get separated or something like that.

467
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 4: More games was starting to do that where you get

468
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 4: to a certain point that you can change over or

469
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 4: some some games have where you can change back and forth,

470
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 4: like at the drop of a hat, like you can

471
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 4: still integrate her into the games. But they're just opting

472
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 4: just not to and I do not understand.

473
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: I will say this now, I feel like these white

474
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: men are spitting about having to see themselves to enjoy something.

475
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 3: Because now that I have the option with some games

476
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 3: to create a character that looks exactly like me to

477
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 3: go through the you know the game, it takes me away.

478
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 3: When I gotta be some man, I'm like, dang. I

479
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: was just in Balder's Gate team from Brooklyn chopping up

480
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 3: people dressed like nig the Stallion. So I was like,

481
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 3: this is how white men feel. And now they got.

482
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: They gotta learn to make room.

483
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: But that's the thing.

484
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: We know how they We know how they feel because

485
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: we've also played for years is not ourselves right, and

486
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: we managed to make it work. So I feel like

487
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: y'all make it work. And I believe in you white people.

488
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 2: I believe in y'all more than y'all believe in y'allself.

489
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: I believe you could pick up a video game, it

490
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: could be a black protagonist and you can still.

491
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: Play that whole game and have fun. Yes, I think

492
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: it's possible.

493
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 3: I used to make up stuff, like I remember I

494
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: thought Angelina Jolie was Latina forever forever, and I remember

495
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 3: thinking the progress of having Angelina Jolie play Laura crist

496
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: and how this Latina play Lord c and I. And

497
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 3: I remember I was talking to my dad about it.

498
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 3: He was like, she's white, very white. And I was like,

499
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: how white? And he was like like her dad is

500
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: a who cooks member And I was like.

501
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: Dang, yeah, well she would have been like she would

502
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: have been like Latina. I think she would have went

503
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: by like and Helena Yoli. She would have had to

504
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: put them, she would have had to put it out

505
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: there with a little twist on it. We're like, okay, okay,

506
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: I'll see what you're doing.

507
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: See that spicy white. I said, I.

508
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 3: Remember we did it for all Nerds podcasts and you

509
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: said it was the one with Multiverse of Madness. And

510
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: the names you had picked up were so good. You

511
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: did like America and African American Supreme. I was like,

512
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: this guy's a bro.

513
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: The bro together, shout out the four our Nerds man.

514
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: That's actually how I got introduced to Frankie.

515
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 3: Uh.

516
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 2: They always have like so many cool people on and

517
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: it's always introducing me to the folks from all different

518
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: walks a lot of life and stuff. And that was

519
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 2: actually like wow, I started following you on Instagram and

520
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: Twitter and all that stuff because I was like, oh,

521
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: a cool person, you know.

522
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 3: And I met Ben when I first started my page.

523
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: She was like my first celebrity me and I saw him.

524
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: I walked up to him and I said absolutely nothing.

525
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: I kept on walking. I froze and so like a

526
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 3: month or two later, I've gotten enough notoriety for them

527
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: to ask me to join their podcast. But between that time,

528
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 3: I met uh Tatiana Carama and I told her that story.

529
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I met Ben and she's like,

530
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: what did you say? Like how was it? I was

531
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 3: like I said absolutely nothing. I froze and they were

532
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: just laughing at.

533
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: Me, and I was like, yo, yeah cool.

534
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: So another thing, so you start your journey, You know

535
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: what platforms did you pick as like to get out there,

536
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 2: because I heard you say YouTube. You know, I'm very

537
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: familiar with you on life, Instagram, I know you have

538
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: like TikTok, Like how did you pick your platforms?

539
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: And like what was the most successful for you?

540
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: So YouTube I had started because that just seemed natural,

541
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 3: like I said, that's where I was receiving all this content.

542
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: And then when I started with Instagram, it was half

543
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 3: and half. Like iDTV was just starting to get launched,

544
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 3: and so I was doing pictures to drive them to

545
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 3: my YouTube. But then IG just started to explode and

546
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 3: YouTube wasn't. So I started focusing more of my energy

547
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: on my IG and then I was able to get

548
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: more grants from i G. Technically now, my TikTok is

549
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 3: my biggest platform. It's where I have the most followers,

550
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: but I think my most loyal base and my most

551
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 3: engagement comes from Instagram, Like it's just more of a conversation.

552
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 3: I prefer it, even though TikTok, I know it's easier

553
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 3: to go viral, it's nonsense. Easier to get followers, but

554
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 3: those a lot of those followers just follow you randomly

555
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 3: and never look at They never engage again.

556
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: How do you being a content creator and with the

557
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: multiple different platforms? Was it easy to adjust because each

558
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 4: one requires a different muscle. Because we took our name

559
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 4: on TikTok, but I don't got the TikTok brain, Like

560
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's like you. You have to the way

561
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: TikTok is. You have to consistently put things out there.

562
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 4: They have to be short, like like you. It's like

563
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: an algorithm, and so I kind of hadn't figured it out.

564
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 4: So for somebody who's big on there, how did it?

565
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 4: Was it hard to adjust to the multiple platforms to

566
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: try to push all your product out to all these

567
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 4: multiple platforms?

568
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: You know? Well right now because I'm focusing mostly on

569
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: TikTok and Instagram, it's the same. I just keep my

570
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: videos to the maximum amount of reels, which is like

571
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: admitted and a half, and then I just reposted to TikTok.

572
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: So in that aspect, that's how I keep time saving.

573
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: But I do want to move to YouTube because there

574
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: is so much more I want to say in so

575
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: many details I leave out in my analysis, but to

576
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: your point, it is an adjustment. When I was on YouTube,

577
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: I can make a five to ten minute video and

578
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: just go on and on and on, but that would

579
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: take me all week, and I was dropping one video

580
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: a week versus like now I'm dropping them daily, where

581
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: I just need to find b roll and stuff to

582
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: green screen. So yeah, it's a different muscle. But I

583
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: will say that TikTok and Instagram prime me to be

584
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: more entertaining because you have to grab in people in

585
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: those first three seconds. And that taught me and prime

586
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: me on like how do I capture people who are

587
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: mindlessly scrolling, so doing things like starting with my thesis,

588
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: figuring out how to word it, where like my first

589
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: sentence matters so much. And I could still blead that

590
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: over to TikTok and well and not TikTok YouTube when

591
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: I start to work there. But I think the only

592
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: difference would be I could explain more so the middle

593
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: part where I'm in the guts, I'm talking about things.

594
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: I can now really get into detail why I believe

595
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: this and stuff like that. So I do want to

596
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: go to YouTube. I just gotta you know, it's the

597
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: aspect ratio that's killing me the most and the editing.

598
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: I'd had to film one for TikTok and then film

599
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: one for YouTube so that I can get that aspect

600
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: ratio and get the timing, you know, I mean, sky's

601
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: the limit.

602
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, and how long does it take you to

603
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: edit a video?

604
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: Like? You know, cause I've seen like different you have

605
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: different kinds of videos, Like some it is like the

606
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: green screen kind of background where like this is the

607
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: thing I'm talking about, and you know, maybe you're switching

608
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: backgrounds every once in a while to be like and

609
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: here's a different page of this comic or there's different

610
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: artwork or whatever, Like how long does it take you

611
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: to upload something like that? Versus I saw your latest

612
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: video on Instagram that was like you had a little

613
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: robot like.

614
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: Back, oh my little ad. Yeah s case scenario for

615
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: an AD because like most people don't know it's an AD.

616
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: So people are yelling at me like I can't believe

617
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: you suspend that much money. I'm like, first of all,

618
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: if I did, that's like a business. But two, it's

619
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: an ad, y'all be real.

620
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: But then it's hashtag ad you know, like like it's

621
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: in there. Read the caption, everyone.

622
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: Right, but you know what, And I pride myself on

623
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: making ads that don't feel like ads. I know myself

624
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: if I'm like, immediately this is an AD, I'm strolling.

625
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: So I tried to make it bleed into No.

626
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: I definitely thought you were flexing on us, which is

627
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: why I read the caption and then I was.

628
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, it's like an AD. It's like a flex

629
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: but a AD. I liked it.

630
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. But yeah, those type of videos because

631
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: I had to shoot in multiple locations. Shooting it would

632
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: take like an hour or two, and editing it was

633
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: short because I just had to put it, put in

634
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: the clips, and then do a voiceover for the green

635
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: screen ones. I think pulling the panels and thinking about

636
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna say. If I add all that time up,

637
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: it probably takes me around an hour, hour and a

638
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: half to do a like one minute and thirty second video.

639
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: And then when I was doing like longer videos for

640
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: YouTube where I was editing, I was using DaVinci Resolve

641
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: and stuff I was probably I was using around I

642
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: want to say it was about four to five hours.

643
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: It would take me to like record, to write all

644
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: my thoughts down. I would write I think I still

645
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: have them, Oh they're somewhere. I would write my entire

646
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: script out and so I had to read the script

647
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: would take time and stuff. And now I just kind

648
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: of just talk randomly and hope I get on my PA.

649
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: I may write a sentence, especially yeah, especially movie reviews.

650
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: Oh man, I watched movies multiple times before I talk

651
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: about it. Yeah, so the first time I watch it blind,

652
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: and then maybe after I'll write some key points. And

653
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: then the second time I talked to the people, and

654
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: then I have my phone out and I like type

655
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: like thoughts that I have as I go. So those

656
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: give me like enough juice, like normally a sentence or

657
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: so like the high evolutionary and not respecting that will

658
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: be like this is a whole video, you know, like

659
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: things like that. Yeah, it varies for the most part,

660
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: but never more than like four hours.

661
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, but that is a lot of work because

662
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: I think people see a woman in video and they

663
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: just think that was all there was to it. And

664
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: especially like as an individual creative, right, you don't have

665
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: a team. Well it's I mean, you could have a

666
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: team that's not necessarily like, but I mean, it doesn't

667
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: matter that you're an individual. If you're on the same

668
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: thing that like ign is on and that New rock

669
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: Stars is on, people expect to scroll to you and

670
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: feel that same level of quality, even if it's not fair.

671
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: So I to me, I hear four hours, never more

672
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: than four hours to make a video.

673
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm like, four hours. That's that's a good

674
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: chunk of work.

675
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: That's like that there's a reason that those videos are

676
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: so good because when I see your videos, I'm always like, wow,

677
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: it's well edited. It doesn't it feels like there's no

678
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: fat on it, you know what i mean. Like it's

679
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: just it's like point point point point point boom, I'm out.

680
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: You know.

681
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: If I'm talking about something, the pictures right there for

682
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 2: you to see it, Like it's you know, if there's

683
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: someone leaves a whack ass comment, it's like, here's the

684
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: comment they left, Here's what I'm saying about the comment.

685
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 2: You know, there can be like captions, there's a bunch

686
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: of stuff that you do that I'm like, you know,

687
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: these this is really like professionals, it's work. It's you know,

688
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: even if you know it's even if it might not

689
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: feel like work or maybe you've gotten used to it.

690
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, man, she's a hard she's working hard

691
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 2: out there.

692
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: No, I work pretty hard. I appreciate it. I'm hoping

693
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: to definitely get the notoriety at this point to be

694
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: like in the same breath as IGN or new rock stars.

695
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: I mean not, obviously, it's gonna come with the team, right,

696
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: but that's definitely where I market where I because like

697
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: I said, I do it full time, and so I

698
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: market it as a package. This is full funnel work

699
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: that you as Marvel, you as Warner Brothers. I work

700
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: with Warner Brothers a lot. You guys can put this

701
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: content on your page and then blending seamlessly what you have.

702
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: It's like what if you were to do this, but

703
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 3: then it's still what's the word raw enough that people

704
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: feel like this is meant for social media? This is

705
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 3: not in a like you know, studio or something.

706
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,959
Speaker 2: Are you ever tempted to have like a hot take

707
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: that's controversial on purpose just to go viral, like to

708
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: be like, man, I just need to get these I

709
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: just need to get these clicks today, you know, and

710
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: then boom, here's my opinion on something.

711
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 3: I think naturally my stuff just feels to the masses hot,

712
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: so I never really I know it's gonna and I

713
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: think it's more like I have to reel myself back

714
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: in some of my intrusive thoughts.

715
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: Right.

716
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: So, even that video that I went super viral for,

717
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: which was about Miguel O'Hara being racist, right, yes, the

718
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: video initially was about him being an allegory for a cop.

719
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: And then I said, the racism is easier to swallow,

720
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: the just the blatant racism is easier to swallow because

721
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: it was so blatant in the dialogue and the fact

722
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: that they chose Miguel O'Hara over like Madam Webb, and

723
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: also because anyone who knew anything about Miles Morales as

724
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: a character understood that that dialogue was coming from fans

725
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: who didn't accept Miles because he didn't follow the cannon

726
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: and that and because he was black. So I was like,

727
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: let me tone it down, and I do that, and

728
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: even when I tone it down, it's considered like insanely wild,

729
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: and so I don't really need it. Even with that

730
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: same point, when I posted it, I was like, I'm

731
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: seeing all these parodies about Miguel being racist. So clearly

732
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 3: this is a theme that we all know when see

733
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: and it won't be that hot of a take. I

734
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: think we're all gonna lie. I'm not live, but I

735
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 3: thought we were all gonna go into a conversation about

736
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: racism within our community. And you know, obviously some men

737
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 3: got a hold of it and called me racist myself

738
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: and who weren't even Latino, which is crazy. And so

739
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I whenever I'm like, I

740
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: want to do something for clouds, like I don't need

741
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: to because the fact that I'm a woman. If I'm

742
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: talking about something that is something that you have to

743
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 3: use your head to think about, it's going to be

744
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: a smoking hot take if I'm if I'm not attacking,

745
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: but I'm critiquing something that's loved for a long time.

746
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: Like I remember I talked, Okay, you guys would actually

747
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm Braveley go ahead. My mom is on

748
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: a hinge and she went on a date. This is

749
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: like last year or something. She went on a date

750
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 3: with this guy and when she went to the crib,

751
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: you know, the date went well, and he had like

752
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: some Captain America stuff up so naturally, She's like, yo,

753
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 3: my daughter, she's like a big time creator. You should

754
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: check her stuff out here, and she gives him my

755
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: page and on it. I'm talking about Danny Rand, not irophist,

756
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 3: but how Danny Rand being white is like problematic. I

757
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: don't like that you should be Asian and how you

758
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: could still be a fit, Like Asian people are not

759
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: all from Asia, like a lot of them grew up here.

760
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: Have you ever been in San Francisco? Blah blah blah,

761
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: And they could have that same fish out of water theme,

762
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: and it'd be even more tragic considering that Danny Ran

763
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 3: is at least half Asian. Right boom, So that's the video.

764
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: My mom's date sees the video goes on a full

765
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: rant forgets how her daughter. It's like, who the fuck

766
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: does this bagical thing she is? And they just go

767
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 3: off and off and off. She's like, you're talking about

768
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: my daughter. And it was just so interesting to me

769
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: that like a black man could be so offended for

770
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 3: me to advocate for diversity and to talk about the

771
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: white the white savior trope, about this white man being

772
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: the best at this ancient uh Asian art and how

773
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: weird that is, and I was like, I'm not. And

774
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 3: when she told me that story, I was like, I

775
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: never got to work hard to think about a subject.

776
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: I just have to think about things that are in

777
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 3: my mind when I'm reading these things, and it's gonna

778
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 3: be it's gonna spark this reaction because I'm saying it

779
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: and I don't fit what they feel, because I've seen

780
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: men re regurgitate what I say and people are like, wow,

781
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: you're spitting.

782
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: And it's ironic too, because that means he was sounding

783
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: like Miguel O'Hara. How he went full circle moment right there.

784
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: I wonder if he follows me. She never told me

785
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: his name, obviously she never saw it again because that's

786
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 3: a huge red flag, right, like even if he didn't

787
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: know that was the daughter.

788
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: And what do you what do you say after that?

789
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 2: Like anyway, so you still want a nightcap?

790
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: Like no, and so you.

791
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: Want another jigg aye, it's for me to go for

792
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 3: the iron Fist right. Favorite comic is the Iron Fist right.

793
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 4: And not to get off topic, man, men are so

794
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 4: fucking stupid. You talk yourself out of pussy all the

795
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 4: goddamn time. Just shut the fuck up. And look cute

796
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 4: and look good and smile and ship like that, you

797
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 4: saying dumb shit and then you want to bitchess.

798
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: Don't want to fuck me. No, nobody want to.

799
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 4: Fuck you because you know you're going you're saying stupid

800
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: shit to make the holes mad.

801
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: And didn't wonder why the holes don't stay and don't

802
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: what's it?

803
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: They're no host And there's actually and I've been meaning too,

804
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: but I just wanted a break from the negativity. But

805
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 3: I've been seeing this like trend where people are talking about,

806
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: you know, these nerdy girls didn't exist when I grew up.

807
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 3: I was like, first of all, clearly you've never been

808
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: to any of the events because you're telling me that,

809
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: or are you not reading the comics that are written

810
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: by like Arthia Althia Martinez or Stephanie Williams or all

811
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: these black women who were in the space whatever. But second,

812
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all was scaring us, like why would we

813
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: we want to be here exactly?

814
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: And also like a lot of them, don't They think

815
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: they want to be with a nerd, but they don't

816
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: really because like then they would lose their authority as

817
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: the nerd in the relationship. When it because the nerd

818
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: shit and they care more about that than the actual

819
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: conversation or engagement or somebody has opinions. You know, we

820
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: in this house, we got a fucking Xbox in that room,

821
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: two three PlayStations because she's a nerd too, So that

822
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: means some days you walk in that room and you're like, fuck,

823
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: I guess I'm on the other TV. Because that's what

824
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: it's really like. It's not they They kind of want

825
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 2: like the the cred or the cloud of being like

826
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: I have a woman who's pretty and in the nerd stuff,

827
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: but they don't really want an actual, like person they

828
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: respect to be in the nerd stuff because a lot

829
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 2: of them are toxic even with other dudes. Right, they

830
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: see the coach is like a very aggressive, argumentative, like

831
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: like I need to dominate you type of culture, and

832
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: it's like, well that that's not really inclusion for real,

833
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: Like you, I'm not saying people can't debate and stuff,

834
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: but there's a level of like I need to dominate

835
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: you with my opinion. And then when you add that

836
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: into like gender dynamics and dating and shit, like don't

837
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: nobody won't be around that shit.

838
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: Nobody want to be around that, and and and and

839
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 4: also I think for me, I remember this was years ago.

840
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: I think I wanna say it was like a I

841
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: forgot which Xbox three sixty and.

842
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 4: One of them when we when we got it. I

843
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 4: remember I used to because I would play. But this

844
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 4: is before I got like my own game of Tag

845
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. So I used to consistently play

846
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 4: under Roger's name, And so I forgot that when I play,

847
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 4: and you would you know you just years ago you

848
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: gonna lie, everything would be up underneath him. And when

849
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 4: I would play, all of a sudden, you would get

850
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: like message, hey bro, bro bro, why why why you

851
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: playing faber Bro? Like like like stuff like that would

852
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 4: just start popping.

853
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: Up his thing. It wasn't fav it.

854
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pata, that's right, Vivia Penada. I fucking love Vivi Pinada.

855
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 4: I want Viva Pinata three to come out soon. Shot

856
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 4: shout a shout out to that, like it's one of

857
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: my fas, one of my favorite things. I know it's silly,

858
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: but I fucking love Viva Pinata. I played both versions

859
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 4: Xbox three sixty, but anyway, so I would get like

860
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 4: he would get like pings and I would be like, baby,

861
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: I think I name my own gaber tag. I'm tired

862
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 4: of them, you know, talking, you know, basically talking about me,

863
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 4: thinking as you basically questioning your manhood, like like like if.

864
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: If if he wanted to play it, why why is

865
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: it a problem?

866
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: Right?

867
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 3: He said? They think he's scaring the whole two house, right.

868
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: I think the biggest issue is there's a level of

869
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: authority and intelligence that I think is associated with this community.

870
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: And so I think, man get afraid that, like, if

871
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: we joined this space, we're gonna take over and dominate them.

872
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 3: And now this is the unique space where they could

873
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 3: like be themselves, be truly you know, manly, and now

874
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: we're taking over it. We're asking them to be inclusive

875
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: all that jazz. I remember in college when I was

876
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: still a like undercover nerd, cause a nerd. I went

877
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: on a date to see Captain America and Winter Soldiers,

878
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: my favorite movie, and I'm watching with this guy. He

879
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: doesn't know, obviously that I write any comic books, and

880
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: we're talking about it and he's uh spewing nonsense, you know,

881
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: like and so I'm sitting here and reminds me, if

882
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: you guys ever see mean Girls when Lizzie Lohan is

883
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: pretending that she doesn't know math. That's how it was

884
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: the whole movie. I ended up going to see the

885
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: movie the next day, Matt and Day by myself.

886
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: What was he doing? What was he doing?

887
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: He was just explaining the Lord to me was incorrect.

888
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: So he was talking to me like Captain America, you know,

889
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: was wildly problematic and a little racist. And I was like,

890
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: Captain America's racist, and he was like, yeah, Like I

891
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: wouldn't want him at the cookout. And in my head,

892
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 3: I was like, Captain America is the only white boy.

893
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,959
Speaker 1: Right, what the fuck?

894
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: You know, none of us go up for white people,

895
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 2: but you're not gonna do Steve Rodgers like that.

896
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not Captain America are boys like those are.

897
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: The two dudes that are what America tells itself.

898
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: It is right exactly.

899
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 3: And that's why I just finished reading right now Graduation

900
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: Days of Blue Beetle comic. And Superman is the one

901
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: that sent to him to tell him to tell and

902
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: when he finds him, he's fucking up elotate speaking Spanish

903
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: to his family. I'm like, because that's what Superman is

904
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: wherever he's at. He's gonna accept. He's not gonna talk

905
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: about how spicy your food is. Right, he's not gonna

906
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: be speak English, He's gonna learn because that's the type.

907
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: Of This is my fucking problem.

908
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: This is my main problem with agriculture because a lot

909
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: of the people that come to represent it, they the

910
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: thing you're trying to represent are these heroes, and their

911
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: ideals go directly against the ship that you're pushing back at,

912
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: Like like, uh, these heroes in the fiction that has

913
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: been written would have been the ones to be the

914
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: to use a football analogy, they would have been the fullback, right,

915
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: they would have been the person in front, moving everybody

916
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: out the way for the other people to come through.

917
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, we're finally getting like more diversity.

918
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: That Steve Rodgers is gonna be the first nigga, Like absolutely,

919
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: we're getting more diversity.

920
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: What the fuck that?

921
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: Like? Why you know when people are like watching like

922
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 2: a Star Wars, it's just about like a rebellion against

923
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: an empire that is almost almost monolithically white nazzi, Like

924
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: when you see those ragtag people fighting against that, and

925
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: then you get mad because it's like but one of

926
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 2: the most powerful people was a woman.

927
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: You're like, what the fuck did you watch earlier? What did.

928
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: What were you inspired by? The lesson you took from

929
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 2: it was no girls allowed.

930
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: I it's it's very or to be like it's getting

931
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: too political when like you said, the memorabilia, everything the

932
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: Empire stands for is literally copy and paste from the

933
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: Nazis down to the gear to the rag. And I'm like,

934
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: y'all dance right.

935
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 4: And and and also I think, for me, while we're

936
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: on the topic, one of my pet peeves and and

937
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 4: maybe and like I said, I know it's sensitivity because

938
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: I'm a woman. I am so fucking sick and tired

939
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 4: everybody talking about comic book fatigue and movie fatigued with

940
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: with with this stuff, like like I hear a lot

941
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 4: of people say it a lot, and I think a

942
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 4: lot of people saying it just to say it. I

943
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 4: want me tell you why I'm sick of it, because

944
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 4: nobody was saying this when it was white people, when

945
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: it was Steve Rodgers, when it was or when it

946
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: was Captain America, when.

947
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: It was motherfucking Bucky.

948
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: I ain't heard no goddamn complaints, Like like, as somebody

949
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 4: who love these motherfuckers. I've watched all fucking fifty these

950
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 4: got the movies. As somebody who watched all twenty five

951
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 4: movies leading up to the Avengers, I watched them bitches.

952
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: I did not hear motherfucking fatigue.

953
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 4: But the second it opens up to women, lgbt Q,

954
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 4: brown folks, anybody else other than a white man, I

955
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: gotta hear motherfuckers talk about constantly talk about fucking fatigue.

956
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 4: Why do we get fatigued when it's somebody other than you,

957
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 4: like like like and and and I know that's that

958
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 4: nerd them coming out of me, and nobody really.

959
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: Gives a fuck because it's comic books.

960
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 4: But as somebody who in real life, the door always

961
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: wanted to shut, the budgets, always wanted to get smaller

962
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 4: when it comes to us, right, you.

963
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, And like, it's very frustrating.

964
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 4: And oh oh, one more thing, particularly with black men,

965
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 4: I mean and and and this one thing that piss

966
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 4: me off when it came to black panther y'all got

967
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 4: y'all motherfucking lives I had and I'm not I'm not

968
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: knocking it, yo. Black boy joy all over the motherfucking place,

969
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 4: grown ass men, crying, falling out, passing out.

970
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: Lord, I find a guy. I found the child has

971
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: miss my turn. I got my ship. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool,

972
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: you got your ship. Okay. But the second, if you

973
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: read the fucking comics, black Panther was.

974
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 4: Not always a man, right, Okay, I'm not getting this right.

975
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 4: The second you want to make it somebody else, all

976
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I gotta hear you motherfuckers complain about it,

977
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 4: and and I gotta hear y'all argue on lyne about it,

978
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 4: and I gotta hear y'all make this fucking up row

979
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 4: about it.

980
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: You got your ship, You got your turn.

981
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: Also for good reason, like the real the person who

982
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: played it died like they didn't have a lot of options.

983
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't just like we hate black men.

984
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: Now we want to we want to say fuck you,

985
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 2: Like no, they they made the best of a bad situation,

986
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: and suddenly we found the limits of the of a

987
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 2: lot of dudes imagination.

988
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: It was, well, I don't know how she could be

989
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: doing all that.

990
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: She's only this small, and I'm like, like, she wasn't.

991
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: And the thing killing me about that argument was sheery

992
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: was at every fight hands up. Every people were like,

993
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 3: she gotta learn how to fight. I was like, when

994
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: have we seen her not fight? Like we've seen her

995
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: in a lot.

996
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: Also, it doesn't make sense because the smartest woman in

997
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: the world. It doesn't even make sense though, because if

998
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 2: you're gonna go by that, all the men that played

999
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: the superheroes can't do that shit either. If that's the point,

1000
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 2: If you're like, well, she's so small, it's like, well,

1001
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: compared her to Thano, so is fucking Steve Rodgers. But

1002
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: he took a few punches and didn't die. It's not

1003
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 2: called realistic, it's called superheroes. We're watching niggas do shit

1004
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: they can't do. That's what the special effects budget is for.

1005
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 2: What are you so mad about? Oh, you're mad. It's

1006
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: a woman getting to do the thing.

1007
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1008
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: It's people calling Ray from Star Wars and Mary Sue

1009
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: and you're just like, I don't think there's ever been

1010
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: a bigger Mary suit than Luke. Like this niggas was

1011
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: he was a farmer, ended up saving the Galaxy dog

1012
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: Like this is just what the fuck did you is?

1013
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: But it tells a lot. We're people's imagination, like limits.

1014
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: And Karen I'm sorry. Oh yeah. I think a piece

1015
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 3: of that super hero fatigue is because they're expecting these

1016
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 3: white stories, and so we're getting more diverse stories, and

1017
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 3: we're shoving them through the template that was created from

1018
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: these white superhero stories. So we want everything to look

1019
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: like iron Man one or Avengers the first Avengers. I'm like,

1020
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 3: you can't make Miss Marvel look like that, Like, you

1021
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 3: can't make this And now I think, is this a review?

1022
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 3: I don't know whatever. I feel like Blue Beatle is

1023
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: what we were asking for, right, It's closer to what

1024
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: iron Man one was if he was Latino and people

1025
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: were talking about it, talk so we'll put taco about

1026
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: it on it. And I'm like, it's they're just shoving

1027
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 3: the fact that he's Latino in our face. And I

1028
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 3: was like, have you ever met someone of color? Like

1029
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: our ethnicity culture is part of that. But the same

1030
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 3: thing could be say about Iron Man. He was listening

1031
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: at ac DC. He's eaten. He came back from being

1032
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 3: in like being a prisoner of war, and he asked

1033
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 3: for it in and out burger. That's the most white

1034
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: shit I've ever That's what he wanted.

1035
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: I think even the ending of Iron Man is like

1036
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: the ultimate white privilege where he just outs himself like

1037
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: Iron Man. Everybody else like yeah, I'm like and it

1038
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: can work for him, you know, like there's so many

1039
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: other heroes that'd be like.

1040
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 3: And then he spits in the face of the US

1041
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 3: government the next time the beginning of Iron Man too,

1042
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: he's like, listen, I'm a billionaire. I lobby for all

1043
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 3: y'all in office because he didn't say he wasn't like

1044
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: all of y'all in office because I fund y'all the government.

1045
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: The economy is what it is because of me. Ya.

1046
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 3: I said no, you can leave here, and he said, dang,

1047
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 3: we hate it right.

1048
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: That's how we're.

1049
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 3: Spending cools to a morning country who opened up their resources.

1050
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 3: They tried to steal what they said. Now we want

1051
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 3: some more. The French woman looking at her in her

1052
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: face what I think?

1053
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting too. I'm sorry, can't go ahead

1054
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: before we move on.

1055
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 4: I was about to say the thing about Cheri and

1056
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 4: and what tricks me out about that argument?

1057
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: You know, she's the motherfucking smartest personal that goddamn Firth,

1058
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: like like.

1059
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like she is smarter than

1060
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 4: Iron man like the ship that they got make ourn

1061
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: Man super Like, it's made out of motherfucking plastic.

1062
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: I think, what are we talking about?

1063
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: I think, just in general, the people that have a

1064
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 2: huge disconnect with Black Panther too just happened to coincide

1065
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: to be people that have huge issues with black women.

1066
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: I don't think it's like a coincidence. I think I

1067
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: don't think many of them would admit to it or

1068
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: even see it that way. But just listening to the

1069
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: way they talk about other topics, and it's like, oh,

1070
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: you just have an issue around the idea, like when

1071
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 2: you think of blackness, you think of black men first

1072
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: and only, and that's who blackness is supposed to serve,

1073
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: and so to have a whole movie because to me,

1074
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: even the first Black Panther is more about like black

1075
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 2: women and like the dude that happens to be the

1076
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: one that listen to black women as the one the

1077
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 2: motherfucking wins, and the dude that happens to be like, man,

1078
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 2: I'll kill these black women in service.

1079
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: And my point, he's the one that loses, you know

1080
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And there are people that left that movie thinking that

1082
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 2: dude was a hero. They you know, they don't read

1083
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: the books, they don't do the theory, they don't really

1084
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: do the deep level of thinking. They're just looking at

1085
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: toys and they're like, why where's the black boy toy?

1086
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: And that's the only thing they care about. But yeah,

1087
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it. It can't be disconnected

1088
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: from the social issues, which is my next question, like,

1089
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: was there ever hesitance or is there ever hesitance when

1090
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 2: you're talking about stuff, because I believe the general consensus,

1091
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 2: especially before a lot of black and marginalized people started

1092
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: on like social commentary, it was a lot of like

1093
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: stay a political Hey, just talk about the book, don't

1094
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: don't muk don't. Let's not get into all these politics.

1095
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: Did you ever feel that pressure or is that something

1096
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 2: like is that a voice you had to find or

1097
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: did you just show up with it?

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00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 4: Nah?

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00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 3: I kind of just showed up with it, And I

1100
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 3: guess I did feel a little bit of pressure when

1101
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Speaker 3: I was like building my content. I remember some of

1102
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 3: my mother's coworkers it's like, this is so black. I

1103
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: was like, well, that was the entire point. I wanted

1104
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: it to be very black. And if they feel if

1105
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: white people don't feel safe here and then go to

1106
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: film theory or whatever. Yeah, but once I started realizing,

1107
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 3: the bag did not change, and actually like I was

1108
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: getting the bag for being so steadfast. Nothing can stop

1109
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 3: me because I'm like, I'm not losing any bags for

1110
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: advocating for people, for being open. And yeah, some black

1111
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 3: men and some white men think I'm problematic, but guess

1112
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: what Marvel and DC don't they you know, like image

1113
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 3: don't boom, don't they giving me the cheese? And so

1114
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 3: once I realized that it doesn't affect my paper, I

1115
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: was like, good, I could be me. Obviously I cleaned

1116
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 3: it up to be palpable, but for the most part,

1117
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: I use slang. I speak in a manner that I

1118
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 3: would with y'all, and I'm open, but I'm not trying

1119
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 3: to be hurtful, and I think that's that's given me

1120
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 3: the freedom to know that, like, I'm here to advocate.

1121
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 3: People know I'm here to advocate. The brands know I'm

1122
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 3: here to advocate, which is how I source this, how

1123
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 3: I make my living. So as long as that's good,

1124
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 3: then I'm chilling man and even even Marvel Marvel have

1125
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 3: you on the page after that yellow hair. So while

1126
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: they crying getting their pages taken down, Like one of

1127
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 3: them actually got their page taken down. They was crying

1128
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 3: about it, and I was like, yeah, I'll hear harassing me.

1129
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 3: I'm all, Marvel's right, they see they seen the video

1130
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: and also like the.

1131
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: People that created that, that's the subtext they created it with.

1132
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: They want people to interrogate the work, so to like,

1133
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: I don't think they got out of the movie and

1134
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: was like, oh man, that's that's a shock that people

1135
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 2: think Miguel's the bad guy here and might have some

1136
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: might be using the same exact criticisms that people that

1137
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: did not want a Black spider Man used against the

1138
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: Black Spider Man in the Black spider Man movie. No,

1139
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: we that was an accident. I don't know what the

1140
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 2: hell Frankie's talking about.

1141
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 3: Like so many people working, it's just a spit in

1142
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 3: their face for a movie that so intentional and everything

1143
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 3: from the colors they chose. Every scene is filled with

1144
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 3: Easter eggs and symbolism. So to say that that was

1145
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 3: that anything in that was a coincidence, I'm like, this

1146
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: is not an event that happened, cocident work of art.

1147
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 3: This intricate cannot be that when he got punched into

1148
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 3: the car and ran, and a white woman told Miguel

1149
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 3: where it was, and he said, snitch, y'all don't think. Yeah,

1150
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 3: they had to choose how that woman looked, how that

1151
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 3: person looked in that car's who, he said.

1152
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: Like similarly, in like Blue Beetle, there's like allegories for

1153
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: like immigration, there's like so many cultural moments that like, literally,

1154
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: if you didn't grow up in that culture.

1155
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: You won't get it, damned.

1156
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: And I understand as a black person what the moments

1157
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: look like, so I didn't even need to know. Like

1158
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 2: when they're like, oh, they're talking about this specific TV show.

1159
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: I never seen that TV show, But the fact that

1160
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: the fact that they talking about it, I'm like, Oh,

1161
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: somebody with some authority and some power was of that

1162
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: culture and helped make this movie, because that's the only

1163
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: way that moment gets in the movie.

1164
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,479
Speaker 1: And I just it felt authentic because I.

1165
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: Didn't know everything I love that I love when I'm

1166
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: watching something like oh man, that seemed to be some

1167
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: type of inner interracial conflict right there. I don't fully get,

1168
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: but I kind of get because I know what it's

1169
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: like in my race, and I think there's certain people

1170
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: that when they feel that feeling, instead of going this

1171
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: is authentic, they go I'm being left out.

1172
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 3: Right right right, and they leave things so you could

1173
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 3: still get it right Like in that movie they did

1174
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: basically an ice rate, so they're like, just in case

1175
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 3: you don't know, we're talking about racism against the Latin community.

1176
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 3: But you know, but before then they were making small

1177
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: jokes like at the country club, but this woman being Brazilian,

1178
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 3: I'm a color white giving this man proprietary work and

1179
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: not considering the consequences. Like stuff like that is like,

1180
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 3: this is on. How is telling a story and we

1181
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 3: need to listen to what he's saying down to them

1182
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: using talk ju jitsu to win right, Yes, he said, brother, brother,

1183
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 3: you're from Mexico.

1184
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: Come on, we get it.

1185
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 3: And that's like exactly we can relate to them.

1186
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for that.

1187
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: Like anytime they do the like I guess it's the

1188
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: anime nerd of me, But anytime you do a like

1189
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 2: empathy swap at the end where it's like the bad

1190
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: guy's fighting the good guy, but then the bad guy

1191
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: and the good guy kind of realized like damn if

1192
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: I had made like one different decision or one different

1193
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: thing that happened to me. I could be where you're

1194
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: at and they're like, why we even fighting every fucking time.

1195
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 2: You can put that in every movie and be like, yeah,

1196
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: that's that's I did exactly.

1197
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 4: Roger gets it like for that and rogic when you

1198
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 4: was talking about a political it's funny when people talk

1199
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 4: about comics and being a political when all most jority

1200
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 4: all comics have some fun, some fun of it.

1201
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: You talk about them mutants, you talk.

1202
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 4: You know, you you talk about everything you go, you

1203
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 4: can relate.

1204
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: You're talking about a lot of stuff that was either

1205
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: a made by like marginalized people, like Jewish people, and

1206
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: stuff that were coming out for like World War One

1207
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: and World War two, being like, yeah, so we need

1208
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: to like educate everybody so this doesn't happen again, right

1209
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: and then and then on top of that, like even

1210
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: when they try to bring in like stories of martinalized

1211
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: people and maybe a white person came up with the

1212
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: concept or something, every time, eventually it just gets into

1213
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: the hands of that type of person because because you'll

1214
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 2: see in the beginning where you're like, I don't think

1215
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: these people been to Africa. They're just writing black panther,

1216
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 2: and eventually some black people get a hold of it,

1217
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: you'd be like, now that's a motherfucking black panther, And

1218
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: so to read that stuff, I'll just never be able

1219
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: to understand how many people are able to read that

1220
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: stuff and enjoy it. For I mean literally one hundred

1221
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: years at this point, and there's still people who just

1222
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: do not get it. They just when it comes to

1223
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 2: social issues in real life, they are on the side

1224
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: that the heroes and their books would be against.

1225
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: And it's it's like whenever I see a.

1226
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: Punisher logo on like a car, and you like, I

1227
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: know that's a racist motherfucker that wants cost to shoot,

1228
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: to shoot black people, the Punisher would be shooting those cops.

1229
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: Like that's the kind of nigg he is. What he's like,

1230
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: Oh police.

1231
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 3: The Punisher is a cab all the way the cops

1232
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 3: have adapted him. And I was like, I just need

1233
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 3: you to read one better than y'all. But you know,

1234
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 3: I think it comes with the education. When I'm first

1235
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 3: I used to be a novice to Batman beyond like

1236
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 3: multi media and not actually reading a lot of his comics.

1237
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 3: You guys are frozen in my house. Oh there you go, okay, okay,

1238
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 3: but yeah, I used to I used to be a

1239
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: novice to Batman, and I think because I watched mostly

1240
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 3: like the movies and stuff like that, I had a

1241
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 3: totally different perception of what Batman was. And then to

1242
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 3: read comics and to be like, yo, Batman is actually

1243
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 3: really anti cop anti this it's not you know, and

1244
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: I was able to grow and stuff, and I think

1245
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 3: that's where the disconnect is. People aren't willing to learn

1246
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 3: more and to live burg and so we have people

1247
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 3: who never read the comics writing Batman and stuff like that,

1248
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 3: and then they're like, well, yeah he's yeah. I was like, yeah,

1249
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 3: he looks like some rich fascists in Westchester talking about

1250
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: what we're doing in the city and the like, that's

1251
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 3: not who he is.

1252
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 2: It is funny to slander Batman, but yeah, I always

1253
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 2: feel like reading the comics, it's like Batman is the

1254
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: dude that gives to the charity, the health the people,

1255
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: that donates the time, and then it comes out and

1256
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: beats up the people that are terrorizing the people like that.

1257
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: That's what you say for this city, right right, Like

1258
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: he really puts on for his city in a way

1259
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: that I never would like if anything like whenever that

1260
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 2: people say, like Batman is a character that has to

1261
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: be white like, and I you know, I don't think

1262
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: any character has to be white. But that's the best argument,

1263
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: because nobody's gonna feel like they own a city the

1264
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 2: way a white dude feels like white like white people

1265
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: be thinking talking about like America's economy like it's their

1266
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: bare kind of like you know, like we're down bad

1267
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 2: guys right now.

1268
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: Have you seen the GDP? I'm like, what the fuck

1269
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: they got to do with me? I'm looking at my

1270
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: numbers in my bank account.

1271
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 2: But I feel like a billionaire white dude would feel

1272
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: a level of like I'm gonna protect everybody. I'm gonna

1273
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: give everybody money, I'm gonna house everybody, and I'm gonna

1274
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: beat up the people that mess with everybody like you're

1275
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: doing it a.

1276
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 3: Lot helps him in his business too, right in all aspects,

1277
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 3: he does feel older. Ship Wayne Estates, the Wayne conglomerate

1278
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 3: owns Gotham. So he's like, y'all got me looking crazy

1279
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 3: out here. I'm trying to make these business deals. Don't

1280
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 3: nobody want to come out to gossips and.

1281
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: Like promote Gotham Man and y'all like him fucking it up.

1282
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: And in the book he's always the one with the

1283
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: ideas that lose money, you know. But he shows up

1284
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 2: to the board meeting like I feel what y'all saying,

1285
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: But how about we don't sell any drums to the

1286
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: government and instead we put that money in the hood.

1287
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: And everybody's like, who the fuck is you?

1288
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 3: Kind of.

1289
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: Like who? Like, like who is who is? Dude's mad

1290
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: is this?

1291
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 4: He'd been like, I hear what y'all saying, but why

1292
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 4: don't y'all invest more money so that the people over here,

1293
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 4: that the assaylum you know, can get the help that

1294
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 4: they need, and then turn around and catch them to

1295
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 4: put him in now. But he actually want to help them,

1296
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 4: so he actually is paying.

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01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: Uh. Death in the Family was the death of the

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01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 3: family I've been reading about yourself with a Harley fan

1299
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 3: or I'm sorry, either death of the Family or mad Love.

1300
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 3: But the joker breaks out of an arcup and Batman

1301
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 3: is just sitting there with Jim Gordon. He was like,

1302
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 3: I've been telling y'all to up the security. No. No,

1303
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 3: he's talking to Alfred and he's like, I've been trying

1304
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 3: to get them to up the arc of security. They

1305
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 3: just won't let me. I've been trying to do this

1306
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 3: money and get it out here.

1307
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 4: Like I'm guy, help me, help y'all keep getting out,

1308
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 4: and you know, secretly, I'm the one who's got to

1309
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 4: catch them again.

1310
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: That's right.

1311
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 3: I'm catching up and I'm trying to put in the stuff.

1312
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: That's where that's where bad Man help me help you.

1313
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: That's where Batman is too progressive because he won't kill

1314
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: this nigga, so he's He's like, I don't believe in

1315
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: the death penalty. I don't fuck with guns. I'm like, damn,

1316
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: this nigga a little too abolitionists, Like you're gonna have

1317
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: to like you're gonna have to get a little to

1318
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: the middle.

1319
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 3: But I love that about him. I love that he

1320
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 3: believes in that anyone can.

1321
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: Of course, it's the only way. It's literally the only

1322
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,479
Speaker 2: way for that kind of person to be a hero.

1323
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: Like right.

1324
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: I love the Elseworld and the other tellings where they

1325
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 2: try to do like a dark Batman and it just

1326
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: never really fully worse because you're like the second Batman

1327
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: is pulling the fucking gun on people when he's pulling.

1328
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: Out the blicky. It's like, it don't feel the same, bro, Bruce.

1329
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 2: Bruce would have gave that man that Bruce would have

1330
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 2: gave that man a concussion, not a body bag.

1331
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 3: And he talks about that too. In Death of the Family,

1332
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 3: he this guy catches him by surprise and he knocks

1333
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 3: him out, and they're doing voiceovers. Well, I mean, it's

1334
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 3: tax but in his head he's like, I came down

1335
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 3: on him hard, so even that he knocks it out,

1336
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 3: he was like, damn, I'm so hurt, my boy. If

1337
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 3: you guys ever watched Baman Beyond My Favor the premiere

1338
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 3: is such a perfect way to show that, right, because

1339
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 3: he has a heart attack midfight. He's that bad, this

1340
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 3: guy's about to beat him up or kill him, and

1341
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: he pulls it. He picks up a gun and he's

1342
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 3: shaking because it's him or me, and the guy is like, yo,

1343
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 3: I've never seen the bad He runs and that's when

1344
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 3: you realize he has to because right he was like,

1345
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 3: if I'm at a point where I can only win

1346
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 3: by holding a gun, I can no longer be the Batman,

1347
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 3: and just the fear he had in himself, I was like.

1348
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 1: Yes, and and and to think about Bruce. What I

1349
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,919
Speaker 1: love about Bruce. Bruce is so white man.

1350
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 4: He's like, he told it, Justice League, I got so

1351
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 4: much money, I'm crazy. He was like, he was like,

1352
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 4: I'm so crazy that if y'all have to come get me,

1353
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 4: it's some mother working problem, you know what I'm saying

1354
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 4: that there was like, well what do we do?

1355
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of at the end of one

1356
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: of the animated movies where he had had everybody's weakness

1357
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: in the Justice League, and I think the bad guy

1358
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: stole the like his plans for how to take everyone down,

1359
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: except they made it more lethal because you know, Bruce

1360
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't like kill these niggas, but a straight up was like,

1361
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 2: let's make a Kryptonite bullet and kill Superman and shit.

1362
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,799
Speaker 1: So at the end when they're kicking.

1363
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 2: Him out of the Justice League, you know, because they're like, nigga,

1364
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 2: you had secret plans to beat us all up.

1365
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: And he's like, and they're like, and what was the

1366
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: fail safe for you?

1367
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 2: He was like, y'all the Justice League, Like it's gonna

1368
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,799
Speaker 2: take all of y'all, but y'all were the fail safe.

1369
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: I thought about that, Yeah.

1370
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 3: But also like that's so trill to talk to a

1371
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 3: bunch of guys. They're all gods to be like, oh,

1372
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 3: y'all could right, y'all don't have it. And for them

1373
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 3: to ask the question, I know his was a little

1374
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 3: hard and me like, yeah, yeah.

1375
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: Y'all worried about.

1376
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 3: Why is that a question for y'all. I'm a human.

1377
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: That's why I feels safe for all of y'all, like

1378
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 3: why that's one?

1379
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: Yes? And he's strategic.

1380
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 4: He's like, he's like, my ship is playing, so trust

1381
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 4: if y'all gonna come at to me, got them gonna

1382
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 4: have a bomber, Like it's gonna.

1383
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: Be something for y'all. Y'all show up. It ain't gonna

1384
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: be easy to take me down now.

1385
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 3: And I love it. And that's why he's trilled. Like

1386
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 3: there's an episode where like the Justice League and Justice

1387
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 3: League Unlimited where they decide to say to do something

1388
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 3: and like out themselves or something publicly, and Batman said, yo,

1389
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 3: beat stay up, God bless that's not me and they're like, Batman,

1390
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 3: you have to you're the leader. They're like I don't, Yeah,

1391
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 3: I don't. I really want and y'all y'all be blessed.

1392
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like he was at it. Yeah, he wasn't

1393
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: even like mad.

1394
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: He was just like, Oh, that's the way y'all gonna go, Clue,

1395
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: that's not how I get down.

1396
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: I'll be at the crib.

1397
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 3: Couldn't be me.

1398
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an ultimate. Who are ultimate? He's he's an ultimate?

1399
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: Who are all gonna be there? Superhero?

1400
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 1: He was like, y'all bullproof, I'm not.

1401
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I love the later seasons of Justice League

1402
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: because he's very much like y'all got it.

1403
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, I know, I know people hated The

1404
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 3: Flash the movie, but I love The Flash as a

1405
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 3: Batman movie, especially the way that Michael Keaton was talking about,

1406
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 3: Like even down to the conversation that Ben Affleck had

1407
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 3: with the Flash and him understanding like, Bro, you said

1408
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: you could turn time. Listen, I know what that means.

1409
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 3: Don't do it, Like just the conversation, but down to

1410
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 3: them going to fight Zod and there's a scene where

1411
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 3: Michael Keaton is fighting that big boy and the way

1412
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 3: he's climbing him and putting bombs on him and stuff

1413
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 3: like that. I'm like, that's what I'm talking about. He's

1414
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 3: in ninja. He gonna find a way. He's gonna find

1415
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 3: a way. He's not worried about y'all like me, I'm

1416
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:54,839
Speaker 3: gonna do the Piper.

1417
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 4: He was actually making the case for him to be

1418
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 4: on Batman Beyond, like like like I would love a

1419
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 4: Batman Beyond movie and just kind.

1420
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 1: Of reboot it, and that would be great.

1421
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 3: Oh man, I think Michael tired, though he ready to go.

1422
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 3: I think he can go either way like he I

1423
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 3: think he's asbian and he loves to act. But I

1424
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 3: felt like I was surprised to see him in the

1425
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 3: Flash because I thought he was telling me in Birdman

1426
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 3: to let it go, and I did. I let it go.

1427
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 3: I let him go as a hero. So when he

1428
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 3: came back, I was like, but Mike, we just talked.

1429
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: He liked playing bird, He liked playing bird associated roles

1430
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 2: like he also is the Vulture.

1431
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: Just give him, but give him so.

1432
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 3: I thought he scratched out.

1433
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: Give him some wings. He'll be in your movie. That's

1434
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: all I'm saying.

1435
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 2: Like, if you're trying to cast Michael Keaton right now

1436
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: and you ain't got to set the wings on set,

1437
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 2: I blame it's your father. You know he's gonna be

1438
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 2: in like Touched by an Angel, or something like he

1439
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 2: needs get.

1440
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: That man some wings.

1441
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 2: He's like me, He's like me, Okay, if you want

1442
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: me to show up places, get some wings, I don't

1443
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 2: care if it's some wings, stop, I'm gonna be there.

1444
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: What about So have you said anything.

1445
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 2: That you where people got mad at you and you

1446
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 2: were like, y' all right, or like have you had

1447
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: that moment yet?

1448
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: Or or hopefully never knocking on wood?

1449
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, have you had recently? It wasn't that bad.

1450
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 3: I just took the video down, but I watched which

1451
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 3: is now my go to pleasure jobless reincarnation, about how like, yeah,

1452
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 3: I was talking about how I felt like I raised

1453
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 3: rudious because I've watched him like literally be birth and

1454
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 3: then like I'm watching him now I'm going to college,

1455
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 3: and people were like this is this is not it?

1456
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 3: Like this is pedophile and like I was like, first

1457
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 3: of all, anytime I talked about pedophilia and like sexism

1458
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 3: and animey, y'all tell me to shut up and this

1459
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 3: is a genre. But I'm happy and proud to see

1460
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 3: that y'all are sticking alid and this is it. So

1461
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 3: I'm here and then I instead ask the question, is

1462
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,560
Speaker 3: it is he a pedophile because he has his former memories.

1463
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 3: If it's not like a vampire who's two hundred years

1464
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 3: old right seventeen, We're watching him grow with a dirty

1465
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 3: mind and I'm not gonna hold you. I feel like

1466
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 3: sixteen year olds things like that anyway, but you know,

1467
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 3: and I don't. And also the character himself, I always

1468
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 3: felt like the stunted and liked was it being predatory,

1469
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 3: He's like growing. I don't know, but it could just

1470
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 3: be that I bang with the anime and I was

1471
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 3: ignoring and making excuses. So that was something I had

1472
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 3: I'm currently trying to figure out. I'm like, I just won't.

1473
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's one of the things that strikes

1474
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: me about like the difficulty of doing the job you

1475
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 2: do is because a lot of times, because you hold

1476
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: water for so many things and you're observing so many things.

1477
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 2: Even if there aren't issues that directly affect do they're

1478
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 2: things that you're like, oh, but there's a certain type

1479
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: of person that may feel a way about this or this,

1480
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 2: language is this or whatever. I wonder what it's like

1481
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: when you can't be everything for everybody, or something just

1482
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 2: slips by, or it's just something you just you don't

1483
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 2: see yourself because it has you know, like that's it's

1484
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: a new thing for you. Like because I think people

1485
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: can come down kind of hard, or they come down

1486
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: with the like presumption of like the worst, like the

1487
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 2: worst presumption of like you meant to be mean, or

1488
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: you meant to not understand where I'm coming from. Or

1489
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 2: you saw this issue and you're okay with it, that's

1490
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 2: why you didn't talk about it, Like what is that?

1491
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 3: Like, I think for the most part, I just stay

1492
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 3: quiet if there's something I don't quite understand or you know,

1493
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 3: or I can't advocate to the fullest extent. Like the

1494
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 3: Hogwarts Legacy game came out right and I was like,

1495
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 3: I grew up on Harry Potter. Harry Potter literally saved

1496
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 3: my life, like you know, quite literally took me to

1497
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 3: a place where I was like, I could be better.

1498
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 3: I'm special, but I understand this creator. It makes my

1499
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 3: trans friends feel the way. But at the same time,

1500
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I got to read so many stuff written

1501
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 3: by racist people who talk crazy. I'm watching Guardian as

1502
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 3: a Galaxy thream right now. Chris Pratt, for sure, don't

1503
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 3: fuck with black people, you know what I mean? But

1504
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, so just finding that line,

1505
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 3: and I was like, you're right, I can't be everything

1506
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 3: for everyone, So when I can't, I'm like, I'm just

1507
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 3: gonna be quiet because what I can say or my

1508
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 3: thoughts on it can come out as maliciousness. And I

1509
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 3: know when I'm advocated for myself as a woman, as

1510
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 3: Apple Latina, as a black woman, when people are talking

1511
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 3: about their excuses on why I shouldn't care how it

1512
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 3: makes me feel, and so like, who am I to

1513
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 3: extend that to another community because I don't understand, you

1514
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 3: know what I mean? So yeah, for the most part,

1515
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 3: I just try to say quiet. I try to stay

1516
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 3: out of it. I don't really stitch much unless it's

1517
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 3: us or or do it, or I don't talk about

1518
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 3: topics unless I know for certain there's no way you

1519
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 3: can turn like Tory Lanes every day. I don't care

1520
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 3: what happens. I'm not ut the majors. I didn't say anything.

1521
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 3: I didn't say anything because I was like, it's a

1522
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 3: way woman. But at the same time, I was like,

1523
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 3: I believe in women all the time, and I get

1524
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: and there's there she may be lying, but maybe but

1525
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 3: I don't know, And so I'm gonna be quiet and

1526
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 3: I'm on. And I think that's where a lot of

1527
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 3: creators make the mistake, is they they're so quick to

1528
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 3: be like the first one to speak on it, and

1529
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: they want to be the one to hit it. And

1530
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 3: I think that's where that misatakes. So it's like, if

1531
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 3: I really want to talk about something, I was like,

1532
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 3: sometimes I'll film the video, send it to some friends,

1533
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 3: wait a day or two, and I'm like, or I wait,

1534
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 3: because somebody else is going to make that mistake and

1535
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 3: I get to watch. I think that's that's baby syndrome

1536
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 3: in me. I'm like, I'm the baby, so I get

1537
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 3: to watch. I got to watch my siblings like touch

1538
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 3: the waters and then be like, so these are the

1539
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 3: things that.

1540
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 2: And also it's hard to talk. It's hard to talk

1541
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 2: about some of these things in a minute and a half, right,

1542
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: So it's like you wouldn't even yeah, I agree, Yeah,

1543
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 2: you wouldn't even really be able to get into the

1544
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 2: complexities some of the stuff when it's you know, when

1545
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: it's like it's like I have a minute and a

1546
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 2: half to get to the things I've noticed, And yeah,

1547
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 2: a lot of times you do have to leave stuff

1548
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 2: for people that like, that's my thing is like, there's

1549
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,799
Speaker 2: certain issues people might have with something that I don't

1550
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 2: have the issue. I can even understand their issue, but

1551
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 2: I might not really relate to it right like I might.

1552
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: I might be able to understand it, but I don't

1553
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 2: want to regurgitate their issue or like try to, you know,

1554
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 2: be like I heard them say this, and now I'm

1555
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 2: saying it because that's how it feels like. No, I'm

1556
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 2: saying it because they said it, and I think I

1557
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: want to. I want they I liked what they said,

1558
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 2: and I want to say it now to like boost

1559
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 2: what they're saying. But there's times where there's just people

1560
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 2: feel multiple ways. As a black person, there's so much

1561
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 2: shit that we have where I can understand how someone

1562
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 2: can feel two ways about the same thing and be like, yeah,

1563
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 2: both of y'all are black and have your own like

1564
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 2: point of view, and I don't feel like one of

1565
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: you has to be wrong, but I understand where both

1566
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 2: of you are coming from. And then when you get

1567
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 2: to other experiences that aren't mine, I definitely like there's

1568
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: things on the show We'll wait, We'll be like because

1569
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 2: the other thing you realize to when you make content

1570
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 2: all the time, new shit gonna keep having it.

1571
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 4: Yes, I have, Like there's times seventy two hours, like

1572
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 4: that's how the internet works. I give it forty eight

1573
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 4: to seventy two hours, and a lot of times by

1574
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 4: then people have moved on to something that's scindy.

1575
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: And there's times where you jump out.

1576
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 2: And you really be wrong, and then it'll be like, damn,

1577
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: this nigga made me look like a fool. If I

1578
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 2: would have waited at forty eight more hours, I would

1579
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: have been fine. But I had to be first, and

1580
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 2: then some new shit dropped and you like, damn they

1581
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 2: got me.

1582
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: So I definitely feel you on that.

1583
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 4: And you don't get a gold stock for being first

1584
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 4: and wrong. You get dragged for that.

1585
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 2: What about being stitched though, Like what does it feel

1586
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 2: like to be stitched?

1587
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: Like do you does that?

1588
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 2: Like you get a notification I'll take time like you

1589
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: got stitch and then you go look at the video

1590
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 2: and then it's like your herd in your chest, like

1591
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 2: is a s motherfucker about to say some froggy shit?

1592
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: Are they about to have my back?

1593
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? Any anytime I'm stitched, my heart does drop because

1594
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 3: I'm like it's rare that people are stitching or duetting

1595
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 3: me because they are great. Normally it's like to talk

1596
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 3: about it. And some stitches that don't see because like

1597
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 3: some people are block will stitch. You will download my

1598
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 3: style stitch. So that's typically how I find out I'm stitched. So, like,

1599
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 3: like I was saying that big controversy was because it's

1600
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 3: huge creator that I blocked. Someone shared my video on

1601
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 3: his discord and he felt it was appropriate to make

1602
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 3: like four videos and stitched it, but then couldn't tag me,

1603
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 3: so they found me, you know, they found me on

1604
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 3: my own. So yeah, Normally when I see stitches, I'm like,

1605
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 3: oh lord, these are not They're never like nice, They're

1606
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 3: never like oh da dad, or it's never like fun.

1607
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 3: Like sometimes I do have people who like switch for fun, yeah,

1608
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like cool, But normally the stitches are like

1609
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 3: this chick is wrong. I hate her. She's what's wrong

1610
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 3: with the world right now? Is what is the world

1611
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 3: coming to? We can't do anything, And so I'm like, dang,

1612
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 3: these are stitches. But then like if I turn them off,

1613
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 3: that doesn't really do anything. You can. They're gonna screen

1614
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 3: record and stuff like that, and then the same with

1615
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 3: the comments, Like I can't turn those off too, because

1616
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 3: they're just gonna flood my other comments, so I just

1617
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: leave it open. I think I restricted my comments, and

1618
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,879
Speaker 3: I put a lot of keywords in my Miguelo heroine,

1619
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 3: and I think there's like six thousand comments that are

1620
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 3: I need to go through. There's fifteen thousand comments on

1621
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 3: that video, but there's six thousand comments that have the

1622
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 3: word the N word in it, have like the B

1623
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 3: word in it, have grape the real word for grape.

1624
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 3: Are all six thousand people felt that way because I

1625
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 3: talked about a cartoon. I mean, he's fine, I get it,

1626
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 3: like you's handsome, but like I was, like, there's nothing

1627
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 3: I say that that's that serious.

1628
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 2: You know, Oh my god, I can't even imagine, Like

1629
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: I just like, I can't imagine that on both sides.

1630
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 2: Like I've had people say mean things to me, obviously,

1631
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 2: but I can't imagine what it's like to be so

1632
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,839
Speaker 2: upset that you are like threatening people over a fucking

1633
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 2: opinion on a goddamn cartoon, movie.

1634
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: Man fictional characters.

1635
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 2: Just like, and I'm like, I've seen, you know, I've

1636
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 2: seen opinions on things where you're like, man, fuck them.

1637
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 2: I disagree with that, But I to this day have

1638
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 2: yet to be like I'm gonna fuck you up. I'm

1639
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: always like, yeah, I mean I disagree, but like I'm

1640
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 2: gonna watch the movie and enjoy it for myself, because

1641
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 2: that's what I do when I like a thing. I

1642
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 2: don't feel the need to like hurt someone's feelings who

1643
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 2: doesn't like the thing, right, And even in this case,

1644
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 2: it's super wild because you weren't like I hate this movie.

1645
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: You were just like this care But people.

1646
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 3: People interpret criticisms, critiques and analysis if they're not one

1647
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 3: hundred percent positive in that critique or analysis that you're

1648
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 3: saying that you don't like the movie. So people interpreted

1649
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 3: me analyzing this character as me saying the movie wasn't good.

1650
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 3: And I was like, clearly, I'm making six seven videos

1651
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 3: about this movie. It's because I was deeply invested and

1652
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 3: I was able to analyze it. It had my I

1653
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,759
Speaker 3: was able to read everything from it. But like, people

1654
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 3: are not that smart, and so that's something I had

1655
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 3: to like realize because even when I followed up and

1656
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 3: say okay, I'm sorry, I trusted yeah too much. Like

1657
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 3: I used I didn't use the verbs I didn't put

1658
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 3: I started putting that like a little warning label that

1659
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 3: says like I'm analyzing things and people are still like

1660
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 3: really upset or like just said you're flip flopping, you're wrong.

1661
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm trying to explain more. But yeah, I

1662
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 3: couldn't imagine being that soon with something that you're like,

1663
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna writeen this woman. Uh you know, because.

1664
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 4: I don't have I don't have that n me Like

1665
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. I don't have that

1666
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 4: thing in me.

1667
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 2: The other thing for me, too, is they've made it

1668
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: to where I'm afraid to disagree in a fun way

1669
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 2: with my friends online because if it's if it's enough

1670
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 2: space where everyone can see it, too many people take

1671
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 2: it serious. So like if I see a video and

1672
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: like playfully want to be like, oh man, that ain't

1673
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: that's not how it is, fuck that somebody will really

1674
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: be like yeah because fuck her right, and it's.

1675
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: Like whoa, no, no, I'm in it's a fun. Like

1676
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: me and my.

1677
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: Friend are saying the person that I know. She says

1678
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 2: she like Xbox, I say I like PlayStation. Then we

1679
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 2: like joking. Then it's cool it's not like, let's docks her,

1680
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 2: you know. So I don't like there's times I don't

1681
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 2: even like I do all all my stuff through like

1682
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 2: text or like a DM or something like that when

1683
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 2: it's a friend, because I really don't trust the Internet,

1684
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 2: and like people take your stuff and like stitching it,

1685
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 2: and it's always in bad faith. They're never gonna take

1686
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: you right, They're never gonna be like, well, you know what,

1687
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 2: here's why I disagree with her. It's always like this

1688
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 2: is what's wrong with the Internet, bros.

1689
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: It's like, fuck, man, so weird.

1690
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 3: It's so weird to see black men, especially stitch me

1691
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 3: and say, like, especially when I say something like if

1692
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 3: you're not in my community, like I don't want to

1693
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 3: talk to you about it, for them to be like, wow,

1694
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 3: how dare she? I'm like, so, y'all never right. You

1695
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 3: never said something as a black man where you're like

1696
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 3: this is unique to me and if you're not here,

1697
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 3: you're not gonna understand me like that.

1698
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 2: That's never I think that's that like red pill kind

1699
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 2: of cloud, you know, get the click type of thing,

1700
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 2: because that's something white dudes have been doing, and there's

1701
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:51,759
Speaker 2: a lot of black dudes that come into the space

1702
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 2: and just see what the successful white dudes are doing

1703
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: and just go I'm gonna do that. And it's like,

1704
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 2: what even if they're doing stuff like justifying racist Yep,

1705
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that.

1706
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 1: That's what guy, I'm a million views. And by the way,

1707
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna work.

1708
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: You're never gonna get the million views the white people

1709
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 2: get because at the end of the day, you're never

1710
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 2: gonna be able.

1711
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 1: To out racist the racist like, oh, you're not.

1712
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 2: Part of the reason people are coming to you is

1713
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 2: be like, oh, look at how he dunked on this

1714
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: black woman. They're not gonna be like and I love

1715
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: this black man's opinion, so.

1716
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 3: Right, like and that's I was like, you don't see

1717
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 3: that everyone who's agreeing with you is a man or

1718
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 3: white you you should you should reevaluate, right. Like for me,

1719
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, I'm being canceled right now. But

1720
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 3: I'm being canceled by Kevin Samuel's talk, right and like

1721
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 3: you know, and and white talk. I think I'm gonna

1722
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 3: be okay.

1723
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: I think you are, Like I'll be honest, it's.

1724
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 3: Hard, it's hard to read those messages. But like, at

1725
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 3: the same time, I remind myself, like, like I said,

1726
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 3: it's not gonna affect my bag. These are not people

1727
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 3: I want to interact with. And honestly, when I see

1728
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 3: in the streets, y'all did be scared, I got it right.

1729
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: They never energy.

1730
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 2: Also, like, honestly, dog, because we run into this with

1731
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: the podcast for years, people say this and be like,

1732
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: you know, if you did your show like this, or

1733
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 2: you talked about this, or you didn't talk about blank,

1734
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 2: you'd have more listeners. And it's always like, yeah, but

1735
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 2: I don't value the listeners that can't handle me saying

1736
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 2: fuck Trump, Like if they like, if they really need

1737
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: me to not say that, knowing what I look like

1738
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 2: in this country and what I obviously believe, then why

1739
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 2: the fuck would I need them to like support my show?

1740
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 2: What are they really supporting at that point? And I

1741
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 2: think one thing the social media has given us is

1742
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 2: the ability to be our own individual brand and to

1743
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 2: pick for ourselves. But there comes conflict with that, Like

1744
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: I saw you had a video about it. I also

1745
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: read the piece about it. But the thing where it's

1746
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 2: like critics versus influencers and the movie you need movie

1747
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,600
Speaker 2: critics to be critical or how all are movie is

1748
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,799
Speaker 2: gonna be better if no one's critical and the influencer

1749
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 2: are only saying good things about movies and they would

1750
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 2: never give a real opinion.

1751
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: It's all being bought and soul.

1752
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 2: Like, what did you think about that controversy and how

1753
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 2: do you handle that conflict?

1754
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 3: I thought that was hilarious because I was like, y'all

1755
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 3: don't see me here. But like I was like, for

1756
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 3: us to say that these big reviewers have no conflict

1757
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,759
Speaker 3: is insane to me. I'm like, you tell me Robert

1758
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 3: and Ebert was given for you? Were they reviewing boys

1759
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 3: in the hood? Like? Were they like they were giving U?

1760
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 3: They were? These reviewers be at parties, may be at

1761
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 3: the same parties that I'm at. The only difference is

1762
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 3: they could do it in the shadows. And so that

1763
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 3: was my biggest thing. I'm like, you think that there's

1764
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 3: no impropriety going on with reviewers because they're doing it

1765
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 3: for a site that you deem. I was like, that's

1766
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 3: leadism on the level that you know we're not given.

1767
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 3: And someone mentioned like they have integrity they have to

1768
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 3: work about worried about. I'm like, but we also have

1769
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 3: integrity and it's on Front Street that guy who wrote

1770
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 3: that article, I don't know his name, and so he

1771
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 3: could write an article tomorrow about something different and I

1772
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 3: wouldn't know, right Versus, when I say something, people save

1773
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 3: it and wait for me to say the contrary. People

1774
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 3: harbor that, people hold on to it, people associated with

1775
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 3: my face and my stance from then on. So I

1776
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 3: have to keep a level of integrity because of the

1777
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 3: way that I interact. And yes, these studios pay me,

1778
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 3: but they pay me because of the trust that I've

1779
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,799
Speaker 3: fostered from my following. And if I start to cap

1780
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 3: people are gonna feel it. Now. There are times I

1781
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 3: think that I've left out some critiques, but that's not

1782
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 3: on my page. That's on their page. Like I've done

1783
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 3: some reviews for a studio and given it to them

1784
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,799
Speaker 3: to live on their page. But for reviews on my page,

1785
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 3: I'm always very clear, and I think a lot of people,

1786
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 3: even the people who like I get it. People Straw

1787
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 3: had goofy and I can see why, like he's my boy,

1788
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 3: but I get why he brus people the wrong way.

1789
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 3: At the same time, I'm like, I've seen him do both.

1790
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 3: I've seen him like say the truth, say what he

1791
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 3: doesn't like but I've also seen him. I'm like, like

1792
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 3: he was, he was going so hard for Avatar away

1793
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 3: in the water.

1794
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: I was like, no way.

1795
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 3: No way, no way, no way, this is real. But

1796
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 3: at the same time, I was like, get your bag.

1797
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 3: I felt it. But that same thing could happen if

1798
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 3: I was right, Like what would be different if I

1799
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 3: was writing for Rotten Tomatoes? Who's getting Where are they

1800
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 3: getting their ad space from? Right right? No, they get

1801
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 3: it from Warner Brothers, they get the studios. How they

1802
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 3: getting Who's going to the press junkets? We just getting

1803
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 3: invited to press junkies. Who's been at those press junkins?

1804
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 3: Meet in the celebrities, no one knowing them, knowing them

1805
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 3: by heart, shaking their hands, talking to them all the time,

1806
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 3: Like it's the same y'all. And the only difference is

1807
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 3: we cut out the middleman. And it's scaring. It's scaring

1808
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 3: people that were able to we're able to achieve this

1809
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 3: level of notoriety and wealth without including these white men

1810
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 3: to help us out.

1811
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're we're official like movie critics, and

1812
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 2: we've even like, we get so much free shit it's crazy.

1813
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 2: And when it comes time for like the award season.

1814
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 2: They send us so much stuff like it's we're throwing

1815
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 2: shit out because we didn't ask for this stuff, and

1816
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 2: it'd be stuff like Netflix sending us a box of shit,

1817
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 2: so like Netflix, everybody got Netflix. They'll send us like

1818
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 2: a screener, like a disc. That's fine because maybe I'm

1819
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 2: a person that doesn't have their service right. But then

1820
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 2: they'll send us like a sweater, a candle, a book,

1821
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 2: the making of some free coffee, and it's like, well,

1822
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 2: that is definitely to engender goodwill in my review and

1823
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 2: then my vote for that, Like.

1824
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: That is exactly what's happens. People remember those gids.

1825
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,799
Speaker 2: So like even when I read that as a critic,

1826
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 2: I was like, you're not being full fledged honest, because

1827
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 2: there's critics that are acts. There's influencers that feel more

1828
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: honest than certain critics. There are also critics that seem

1829
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 2: to like really delve hard into negativity. Because almost every

1830
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 2: critic will just say criticism is negative.

1831
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 1: If you listen, they'll they'll act like it's not.

1832
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 2: But if you listen to how they start talking about

1833
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 2: why it's important to be a critic, it's always goes

1834
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 2: to the because someone needs to be negative about it.

1835
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: But what the fuck has that really improved in the.

1836
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 2: In the one hundred years of criticism, when have we

1837
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 2: been like, Man, if it wasn't for that criticism, it

1838
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:37,879
Speaker 2: wasn't this movie would And that's.

1839
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 3: Not what criticism is. That's what critiques are, especially movie critics.

1840
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 3: It's analyzing and discussing what you enjoyed, maybe what you

1841
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 3: didn't enjoy, because some movie are perfect. I thought Perby

1842
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 3: was perfect and I was ready to critique it. But

1843
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 3: once they let that line off talking about Margot Robbie's

1844
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 3: the wrong person. Yes it's perfect, and so am I

1845
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 3: not a critic? I am saying. I mean, I saw

1846
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 3: I consume this media. I thought it was perfect. This

1847
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 3: is what it's supposed to be.

1848
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 2: This is my point, Like, the term critic is not

1849
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 2: about criticism. It's about thinking critically, you know, like we're

1850
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 2: thinking critically. But but if you let most once it

1851
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 2: gets to this type of fight, it ends up turning

1852
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 2: into like, but if I can't tell you the movie

1853
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 2: is bad, how you gonna know what's bad? It's like

1854
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 2: because everyone goes to watch the movie on their own.

1855
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 2: When's the last time a critic has truly been like

1856
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 2: important in that way to people like I know they're

1857
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 2: important in the circle of criticism, Like there's a hierarchy

1858
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 2: and a social network there, but like, when's the last

1859
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 2: time you're like, if it wasn't for this movie review,

1860
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 2: people would have thought this shit was good, Like it's.

1861
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Never been that way.

1862
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 2: So it feels like a way to elevate critics, so

1863
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:52,719
Speaker 2: you can diss the influencer who is just now starting

1864
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 2: to get the access, just now starting to get.

1865
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 1: And like I.

1866
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 2: Said, obviously, I'm sure for critics and influencers, there's so

1867
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 2: people that are like, I'm just a shield, right, send

1868
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 2: me a bag. I'm gonna tell you it was great.

1869
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 2: But even with a lot of those folks, they don't

1870
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 2: hate it. They'd be like, they don't they fucking sent

1871
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:10,560
Speaker 2: me out here. I don't give a fuck. This is

1872
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 2: the greatest movie at all time. I'm in an hotel

1873
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 2: in California, and we have.

1874
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 3: To disclose it. That's another thing. Critics are not obligated

1875
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 3: to disclose the gifts that they give. Every gift that

1876
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 3: we receive, anything, any event we go to, we have

1877
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 3: to disclose that. And I think that's a level of

1878
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 3: integrity that people don't discuss. But to your point, Rod,

1879
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 3: I did a scathe the review for Avatar where I

1880
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 3: was gonna say the last Airbender wave the water, and

1881
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 3: when I did, it went viral, like I'm sure. Like

1882
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 3: my friend works for Marvel and she said they were

1883
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 3: playing my video in a meeting. Right, that's how viral

1884
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 3: that video went. It went. The movie made two billion dollars.

1885
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 3: It did nothing, but and people saw it. If people

1886
01:33:56,680 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 3: did that, that's not that that gallant like I need

1887
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 3: to save the words. If people want to see the movie,

1888
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 3: they gonna see the movie. They don't don't got nothing

1889
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 3: to do. They're gonna go see.

1890
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 1: This movie, right, And that's the thing. And that's why

1891
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: a lot of times we see the scores.

1892
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 4: You see the critics scores and the people at homescores,

1893
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 4: and sometimes they're match, but most of the time they're not.

1894
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,839
Speaker 4: And sometimes it's a huge disconnect because you have fans

1895
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 4: that go, I know, this is a shitty movie you

1896
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 4: fuk about, but y'all saying I'm gonna go see it,

1897
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 4: and then critics are mad, there's number one, Well, the

1898
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 4: movie might not be for you. Because the thing about

1899
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 4: critics too, particularly you know, being a movie critic some

1900
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 4: of them don't need to cover certain movies. If you

1901
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 4: know that you don't like this genre movie, why are

1902
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 4: you covering it.

1903
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:45,839
Speaker 2: It's also that the way that we discussed movies changed

1904
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 2: about ten years ago, and people talk about movies like

1905
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 2: stock now, and critics are not immune to that. It's

1906
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 2: the reason not like almost every critic will try to

1907
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 2: hit you with the like weird film school tape of

1908
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 2: like all these big budgets summer movies are the problem.

1909
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: People need to get independent films. What's happening to that?

1910
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 2: And then it's like, at the same time, when people

1911
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 2: have opportunities to see independent films, they're also not a

1912
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 2: mon of lifts. Some of them are shit, some of

1913
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 2: them are good. Some Sometimes people go out of their

1914
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:18,759
Speaker 2: way and they go fucking find they're like everything everywhere

1915
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 2: all at once. We're fucking going to see that shit

1916
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 2: we're gonna make that's gonna make so much money. And

1917
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,719
Speaker 2: sometimes it's hey, man, we saw the movie. We wasn't

1918
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 2: feeling it like that, And it won't matter if you

1919
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 2: gave it five stars and you gave it zero stars.

1920
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 2: The people kind of speak about that stuff, but I

1921
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 2: think a lot of people feel like they're picking winners

1922
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 2: and losers now, and so the critics like, I told y'all,

1923
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 2: this is the movie to see, and you know what

1924
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 2: the problem is. He's goddamn influences. They're telling you to

1925
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 2: see the flash or whatever. You're like, dude, it's not me,

1926
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 2: it's not me.

1927
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 3: I will say this too, Like critically, I could understand

1928
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 3: the movie is critically bad as in like as a

1929
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 3: critic because I work with Cherry, So like, if I'm

1930
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 3: analyzing the movie, if I'm going by score scripts, things

1931
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 3: like that, this movie is bad, but did I enjoy

1932
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 3: the movie and I think there's something else that's those

1933
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 3: two different things. My score could be high and I'm like, okay,

1934
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 3: Like Oppenheimer, I haven't seen it, but I'm sure Hans

1935
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 3: Zimmer and Christopher Nolan, I love both of them. I'm

1936
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 3: sure as a critic, I could watch this and be like,

1937
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,719
Speaker 3: this movie is an A plus, it's perfect, right, scrit

1938
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 3: But I know as a black woman, I can't watch

1939
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 3: American propaganda for three for three hours, and so it

1940
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 3: would if I was just a viewer, I'd be like,

1941
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 3: I don't want to do cocaine. Bear, Yes, thank you,

1942
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 3: cocaine bear is perfect. It's a perfect I enjoyed cocaine

1943
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 3: deal me too, finish.

1944
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 4: I delivered exactly what it told me, cocaine and a bear.

1945
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 4: You know why I showed up?

1946
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 3: Is it is it gonna get an oscar? No.

1947
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 2: But as soon as that, as soon as a ten

1948
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 2: year old, as soon as a ten year old does

1949
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 2: cocaine in a movie, you got me like, I need

1950
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 2: to see what happens next.

1951
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 3: I gotta see what's up. I gotta see what's up.

1952
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 5: It's not it's not Casablanca like, But to your earlier point,

1953
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 5: it is interesting because essentially what that article came off

1954
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 5: to me ass is saying that legacy media is the

1955
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 5: only way to go.

1956
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 2: And whatever we do with legacy media is okay. But

1957
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 2: what these new.

1958
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: Niggas doing is different.

1959
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 2: And I'm like, if your publication gets money from the

1960
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 2: same movies that you have to critique, there's you could

1961
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 2: argue there's a conflict of interest there, you know, just

1962
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 2: because like DC or Marvel or Warner Brothers or whoever

1963
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 2: puts an advertisement on your website or in your newspaper,

1964
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 2: we don't say, well, that critic clearly is gonna give

1965
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 2: that movie a good score, or that critic is gonna

1966
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 2: be beholden to the whims.

1967
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 1: Of who like the movie's not actually good.

1968
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 2: DC took out an ad in the newspaper we don't

1969
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 2: do that to you. So it's if a lot of

1970
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 2: it feels just like, don't trust them new niggas, which

1971
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 2: you know.

1972
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 1: I'll never be with.

1973
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 4: And and also it's one of the things that they

1974
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 4: did with Netflix because particularly during the pandemic, everybody had

1975
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 4: the stream, so nobody was taking their asses to the

1976
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,639
Speaker 4: motherfucking movie theaters. Then all of a sudden, everybody's tone

1977
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 4: changed and you started really they started releasing all that stuff,

1978
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 4: the kind of mimicking Netflix. And it's like, for me,

1979
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,839
Speaker 4: it could be very frustrating. I can say that's separation.

1980
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 4: And then you wonder why you have these award shows

1981
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 4: and every year the ratings have gone down, like every

1982
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 4: year statistically they say, how the ratings go down. They

1983
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 4: don't understand why the ratings go down because people go,

1984
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 4: we like things, we love shit the ship that the

1985
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 4: masses go watch, y'all won't even consider as a movie

1986
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 4: of the year.

1987
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 1: You're never gonna won't put it up there. So we'd

1988
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 1: been like, why the fuck would I watched this? They

1989
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 1: don't want to?

1990
01:38:56,479 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 3: And why why did the movie talk influencerr the the

1991
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 3: TikTok critic becomes so popular, right, And I think that's

1992
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 3: what people are forgetting. Why are we here? Why do

1993
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 3: you trust me over rotten Tomatoes? Over IgM? Right? Because

1994
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 3: I was bringing to you real and you felt that

1995
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 3: connection where you're like, this is someone that I could

1996
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,839
Speaker 3: connect to from my experience, right, And I'm not secret

1997
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 3: about it. You know, if I'm talking about the Flash,

1998
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 3: I'm talking about it as somebody who's been reading flash

1999
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 3: comics since she was a child, right, you know, who

2000
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 3: watched Michael Keaton going to bed Bedtime story, Right, And

2001
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 3: so I'm going to receive it as someone like that,

2002
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 3: and some my critiques are going to be different. Does

2003
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 3: that mean be biased or does it give it a

2004
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 3: different lens than that white boy who never read the Flash?

2005
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 3: She was talking about the movie, And so I think

2006
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 3: that's something too that they left out was in the

2007
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,839
Speaker 3: songs and how white critics are too.

2008
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 2: Also, we're right, that's a huge one. And also we're

2009
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 2: all part of a tapestry, like the idea that like

2010
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:03,719
Speaker 2: a fan or a moviegoer is going to one source

2011
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 2: and it's like this critic told me what to see

2012
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 2: and what not to see, or this influencer will tell

2013
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 2: me what to see and what like if there're anything

2014
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 2: like me, like, I'm looking all over the place to

2015
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,679
Speaker 2: be like, okay, well what if Frankie think okay cool?

2016
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 2: I know her history of loving DC and the agenda

2017
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 2: over there with DC versus Marvel. I'm going to you

2018
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,719
Speaker 2: for that content, So I'm gonna I know where your

2019
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 2: I know what your like background is when it comes

2020
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 2: to a critic.

2021
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: If I read that critic, I know their background.

2022
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 2: I know if they like indie shit, I know if

2023
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 2: they don't like uh, if they don't like a certain

2024
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 2: director and stuff. And then also the last thing I'll

2025
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 2: say about this topic is they're talking about an age

2026
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:46,839
Speaker 2: of criticisms that doesn't exist anymore.

2027
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 1: Motherfuckers now are just.

2028
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 2: Hitting the inner button on the goddamn website with no editor,

2029
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:58,640
Speaker 2: no oversight, no ethics, command my editor. That criticism is

2030
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 2: not the same. I still remember reading like this, one

2031
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 2: woman's critic criticism and it was for like the New

2032
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 2: York Times or something. It was like a black woman,

2033
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 2: but she was shitting on all the black stuff, And

2034
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 2: I was like, I just had a realization of like,

2035
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 2: what does it matter if we get representation? But the

2036
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 2: representation is the same opinion that white people had about

2037
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 2: the shit in the first place, where you're like, I

2038
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 2: don't feel represented, Like, yes, you have a black person,

2039
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 2: Do I feel represented?

2040
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 3: No.

2041
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 2: I'd rather go listen to an influencer talk about this

2042
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 2: or someone. If I enjoyed something, I want to hear

2043
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 2: someone who enjoyed it talk about it as well.

2044
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of it is that. The

2045
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 1: last thing I want to get.

2046
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 2: Into with you about how did you decide DC over

2047
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 2: Marvel and how have you been able to stick with

2048
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 2: that for so long with these movies.

2049
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 3: I was Milestone maybe committed to DC. Like I said,

2050
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 3: when I grew up, Yo, say what you want about

2051
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 3: the X Men. They were white. Molestone had actual yeah,

2052
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 3: actual and shock yeah. And I know there was some

2053
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 3: impropriety with how it was acquired, but obviously I did

2054
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 3: not know that when I couldn't right, I couldn't known,

2055
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 3: and like, so all I saw was DC was pushing

2056
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 3: out comic books. Dwayne I met my dad, my dad

2057
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 3: and I met Dwayne McDuffie at some random event and

2058
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 3: it was the first time. My dad is very awake

2059
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 3: and he's normally in the center of the room, and

2060
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 3: so it was the first time I saw him Revere

2061
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 3: or someone I have so much respect for someone and

2062
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 3: so you know that, that's what really had me DC

2063
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 3: to stay. DC is the comic books, for sure. The

2064
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 3: comic books to animation and as I and imations. It's funny, yes,

2065
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 3: right right, And I think watching Marvel movies and then

2066
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 3: going back to a comic book, I think I would

2067
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 3: start to blend and create and think of movies in

2068
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 3: my own head. And I have enough of imagination. And

2069
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 3: that's why it makes it easy for me to stay

2070
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I get it, Yeah, this is this

2071
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 3: cute thing y'all playing with scribes. It's not even Marvel.

2072
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 3: There's not even Marvel's Hottest Okay. They sold that, they

2073
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 3: sold that, okay, And again we can't get it ready.

2074
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 1: I get it.

2075
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 3: We're going to though, because when this hit, when this hit,

2076
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 3: when this hit, and so that's what I that's what

2077
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 3: I really because I'm like, even like marb.

2078
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 2: I'm mar to make a sports analogy. I feel like

2079
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 2: you're a diehard Knicks fan.

2080
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 4: Dang, I was gonna say Cowboys, but Cathleen, Cowboys mixed

2081
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 4: where You're like, listen, we're gonna get that hey Day,

2082
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 4: and we came. We got I remember Patrick, Yes, we

2083
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 4: drafted that year. Every year we drafted Blue Beatle okay Yo.

2084
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 4: And I thought I was kind of sad. I was like,

2085
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 4: damn this strike.

2086
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 3: Fuck these studios because I was so ready to do

2087
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 3: twelve videos. Yeah Blubido and I thought it'd be over

2088
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 3: by now, but obviously people couldn't get it together. But like, yes,

2089
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 3: I saw Blubeto and honest I'm very excited. I know

2090
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 3: people are doing pushback against James Gunn, but I'm like,

2091
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 3: there's not one James gun super hero property that we

2092
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 3: don't think so right, So, and I was like, I

2093
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 3: think he's perfect because like DC is whimsical. It's very whimsical,

2094
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:18,640
Speaker 3: like they have very heavy themes, but it's ridiculous. And

2095
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 3: I think that's the issue is that like on the surface,

2096
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 3: like Zack Snyder was looking at stuff on the surface,

2097
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 3: he probably read a Frank Miller Batman movie or something,

2098
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,919
Speaker 3: and that's what he is saying, assigning to this universe.

2099
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 3: But James Gunn actually read the books, so he's like,

2100
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 3: these are serious themes, but as I was going to

2101
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 3: fight somebody covered in polka dots.

2102
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 2: Snyder feels like he's drawn to like Injustice storylines.

2103
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 3: Which are real nobody and it's funny. I was making

2104
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 3: a story. I did a video for uh Max for

2105
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 3: ho Max about how Superman is uncorruptible. Like watching Justice.

2106
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all need to read Injustice because no one

2107
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 3: who's ever read it ever thought this is Superman. And

2108
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 3: literally that's the point. In no universe would this beat

2109
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 3: They don't even consider it elsewhere.

2110
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 1: Yes, this is.

2111
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 2: It's just it's like it's like people that are It's

2112
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 2: the concept I get, like the concept that Zack Snyder

2113
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 2: went for, which is just like absolute power corrupts absolutely

2114
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 2: and even if all these people had all this fucking

2115
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 2: power and they like even the way they saved the

2116
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 2: rest of us would be like fucked up because no

2117
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 2: one's supposed to be that powerful, which is a super

2118
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 2: cool idea. And they've done it in the Boys, and

2119
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 2: they've done it in UH Invincible. They've done it like

2120
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 2: they've done it a bunch of different ways, a bunch

2121
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 2: of different times to do it with such beloved figures.

2122
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 1: It's just there's a there's a blowback to that.

2123
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 2: That is just I don't think he was ready for

2124
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,639
Speaker 2: And I think at the time DC thought that that

2125
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 2: fan base was a lot bigger than they were, the

2126
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 2: like Zack Snyder hive, And so I think a lot

2127
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 2: of that stuff like has been James Gunn has been

2128
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 2: able to like kind of see through that. I think,

2129
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 2: having himself even been targeted by like right wing people

2130
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 2: that were trying to.

2131
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 1: Use his old tweets to like bring it down.

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Speaker 2: He knows like the internet is powerful, but it's not

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01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,679
Speaker 2: one hundred percent real, so it.

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01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 3: Was well founded tweets. I think I do disagree, right,

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01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 3: I think the Zack Snyder hyde is huge, big enough

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01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 3: for them to invest millions of dollars to bring back

2137
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 3: the Justice League was just.

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01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 2: An Okay, here's the only thing. If it's that huge,

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01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 2: why they didn't do numbers? You see what I'm saying,

2140
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 2: like cause they like to me to me, they're huge

2141
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 2: in that the way they feel online feels like this

2142
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 2: is a mandate. If you close your eyes, what is

2143
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 2: the average DC fan? Oh, it's these these Zack Snyder guys,

2144
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't think that's true.

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01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 1: I think there's.

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01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 2: Way more DC fans in the world then people even

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01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 2: can count, like, especially like if of diversity and all

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01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 2: that stuff, because look at the cartoons, look at the

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01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,839
Speaker 2: animated shows, look at how much the Dark Knight.

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01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 1: Trilogy was bringing in.

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01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:13,360
Speaker 2: Clearly there's a lot of us that aren't just like

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01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 2: white dudes threatening people live.

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01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 1: So like, I think the Internet.

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01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 2: Allowed those people to concentrate and then like focus on

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01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 2: harassing people that work at DC to make it seem

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01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,560
Speaker 2: like this is what a DC fan is, and I

2157
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 2: as a fan of like DC and nerd them and Marvel,

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01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 2: it did a disservice to people like us because it's like.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we're not with them. We're not.

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Speaker 3: I don't know over there.

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01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 1: I just.

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01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 3: Such a good job at casting people who look like yes,

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01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 3: the characters, and so people felt connected to that because

2164
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 3: like every day whenever someone says they're a DC fan

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01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 3: and say they love Henry Cavill Superman, I'm like, did

2166
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,919
Speaker 3: you ain't never read a Superman character? He looks exactly

2167
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 3: like him. I thought he was great, but I was like,

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01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 3: y'all watched him let his dad die and that was

2169
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 3: your Superman and they're like, you know, Johnson can't always

2170
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 3: as I'm like, the point is it's out of his hand.

2171
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 3: For it to be in within his reach, for him

2172
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 3: to be able to and to choose not to is

2173
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 3: the antithesis of who Superman is. What he said, right,

2174
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 3: And then you say, oh, but Henry cap is a fan.

2175
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, because I saw him White fight tooth

2176
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 3: and nail for the Witcher to make sure it was

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01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:32,720
Speaker 3: coming out the way that he felt like should come out,

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01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 3: and he didn't do that for Superman. So he agreed,

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01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 3: he agreed that this was a good Superman.

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01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say he agreed, I'll just because he

2181
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 2: might not agree, but he definitely learned a fucking lesson

2182
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 2: because he went into the Witch like we need to

2183
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 2: get this right, Like.

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01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 3: Like I was like, that's fair. That's where he fought,

2185
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 3: but he didn't fight for the second one. He did

2186
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 3: the Justice League. It wasn't he did Batman versus Superman.

2187
01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 2: Like well that that help, that helped get the clout

2188
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 2: to be able because he eventually walked off the with you.

2189
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 2: He didn't get his way, So like I think that

2190
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 2: gave him the clout to be like this won't happen twice, Like,

2191
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 2: next time this shit happens, I'll quit, Like y'all won't.

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01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 1: Be Cgi my mustang, like he like this, Nigga went

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01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 1: to make this.

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01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 2: Nigga went to make Warhammer. I'm not shitting on Warhammer

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01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 2: at all. I'm just I'm it's not my fandom right right,

2196
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:25,640
Speaker 2: But the fact that he's a super fan and his

2197
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 2: next project was like, I'm making this shit I want

2198
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:30,679
Speaker 2: to make with the people. I want to make it

2199
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 2: about the nerve shit I'm into. I'm like, it feels

2200
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 2: like a lesson was learned from here. Cavil, like, you

2201
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 2: can't just trust these motherfuckers to get it right. I'll quit, right.

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01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:45,120
Speaker 3: Zack Snyder was Yeah, when that news Zack SNYDERCUTT came out,

2203
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 3: I was expecting a different movie and the fact that

2204
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 3: people can't see that it's the exact same movie with

2205
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 3: better with different editing. I was like, y'all, this is

2206
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 3: just context. Y'all know what contact is. But this is

2207
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 3: a four hour movie. If your movie is four hours,

2208
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 3: it's not a good movie. You don't know how to

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01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 3: tell a story.

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01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 4: Crew and you don't know how to edit one thing

2211
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,760
Speaker 4: about that man. He'll give a fuck about an editor.

2212
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:07,640
Speaker 4: You've been like, nobody wants to see eight hours of

2213
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 4: his bullshit editor.

2214
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 3: For a reason, may get a show. Maybe the show

2215
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 3: get a series.

2216
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:16,719
Speaker 2: He's doing a two part movie thing called Rebel Moon

2217
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 2: for Netflix, And in the interview that he just gave,

2218
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 2: he's already saying how he needs to do a five

2219
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 2: hour cut that he's gonna release, and I'm like, bro,

2220
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 2: how are you doing this?

2221
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 1: Hey baby?

2222
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,679
Speaker 3: And then and then he put it in Imax ray sheel.

2223
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 1: I said, y'all.

2224
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 3: Letting him play in your face? He knew we were

2225
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:39,639
Speaker 3: all watching it from our flat screens. Nobody was gonna

2226
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 3: watch this in imax. Why would he put it in

2227
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 3: an imax? He's spinning in your faces and y'all letting him.

2228
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 3: Y'all say you more, daddy, please? Right?

2229
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: Like, like like, what is happening here? You know? I

2230
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 1: bet you they had an editor.

2231
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 4: Every editor either quit or got fired, cause I'd be like, oh, sir,

2232
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 4: I don't think we need that. I don't think you're fired.

2233
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 4: Like you know, they just they it's just don't work

2234
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 4: the next day, Like what is this?

2235
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 3: People? Got divorced.

2236
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just kept working.

2237
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 3: He just kept Yeah. They came hover. They were like,

2238
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 3: you don't understand, Carrie, I'm trying to do that. And

2239
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 3: then you're like, you're taking it out on me right.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't feel like the pressure going going up.

2242
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:24,679
Speaker 2: I feel like Zack Snyder just walks into the editing band,

2243
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 2: goes more slow motion, and they're like, no, no, it's

2244
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 2: already slow.

2245
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 1: Slower, it could be slower, slower, stack.

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01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 3: You need them to see everything right, the reaction, the

2247
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 3: right guy all the way back there, got it right?

2248
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 1: What's the film run time?

2249
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:40,679
Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 1: Zach?

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01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 2: We're already at three hours and forty five minutes. It

2252
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 2: can still be fifteen minutes. Slower goes back, he.

2253
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 1: Goes slower and darker, ander like they ain't gonna and

2254
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 1: say nothing.

2255
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:54,599
Speaker 2: There's a lot of color. There's a lot of color

2256
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 2: in this third act. Make everyone great, scared too, shiny,

2257
01:51:57,360 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 2: it's slow motion scared all right, Frankie, this has been

2258
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 2: so fun, This has been fun.

2259
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 1: Really, we really enjoy you, I really do.

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01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 4: Uh.

2261
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 2: I love all your stuff on Instagram rooting for you.

2262
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:14,080
Speaker 2: Uh I love I hope you get even more robots

2263
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 2: following you down the street.

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01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,639
Speaker 1: You know, we love to see it. Okay, we love

2265
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 1: a brand deal.

2266
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 2: Tell everybody where to find you and like how to

2267
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 2: you know, how the best get get into your content?

2268
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:29,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely so you guys can follow me on all platforms

2269
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 3: as Fantastic Frankie, except for on the Bird, which I

2270
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 3: barely use any well. The X, which I barely use

2271
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 3: is fanboy Fighter and I actually do do reviews for

2272
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Speaker 3: my own site, famblyyfighter dot com. I just started it,

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Speaker 3: so you guys can check that out as well. But

2274
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 3: definitely if you guys liked my conversation here today, definitely

2275
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:54,919
Speaker 3: check it out. That's basically how I speak on my pages,

2276
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 3: just in shorter forms. Uh and both, Karen, I'm so

2277
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,639
Speaker 3: glad to have met you right, Thanks for having any

2278
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 3: I really hope you both in really regardless, thank you

2279
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 3: everything you guys say so thoughtful you will.

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01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 1: Come I did.

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01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:11,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys are really good. You guys are

2282
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 3: thoughtful and smart, and I just feel smarter for me,

2283
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 3: you know, like you're like I have an NTR. It's

2284
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 3: like I have that's also like very very black, and

2285
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 3: so I just want to say I appreciate y'all imagine everybody.

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01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 2: Same to you and like go follow Frankie. Honestly, like

2287
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 2: I said, it will not let you down. Hop in

2288
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 2: the comments, you know, make a joke, uh, you know,

2289
01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 2: disagree in a fun fashion, like keep it fun because

2290
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 2: I actually love when people like mix it up, you

2291
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,599
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I like when people mix

2292
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 2: it up in the fun way, not the bullshit way, right,

2293
01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 2: And like I think I think you have created like

2294
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:55,560
Speaker 2: a really good, like cool space. It's very inclusive and

2295
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 2: it's still and it's like fun. Your fans are funny.

2296
01:53:58,000 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 2: Like I'll read the comments sometimes and just be laugh

2297
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 2: what people are saying. So I just think you're doing

2298
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 2: like such a dope job and you're so dope. So

2299
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 2: we'll definitely have to have you back and then like

2300
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 2: do a regular episode to talk about news.

2301
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 1: And play games and all that stuff.

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01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, keep killing them. We'll be back Saturday for

2303
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:20,560
Speaker 2: our feedback show. Don't forget live show. The link is

2304
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 2: in the show notes virtual in person. We want to

2305
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 2: see you. It doesn't matter. And oh shit, I'm so glad.

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01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 1: I remember.

2307
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 2: Make sure you get your ticket before the day of

2308
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 2: if it's virtual, because the people just told me, like

2309
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 2: the way that Zoom works is they have to shut

2310
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 2: it down the day before what sell so that they're

2311
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 2: not still trying to make last minute purchases and getting

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01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 2: everyone's email address and links.

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01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 1: And all that stuff. Streaming.

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01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 2: Yes, so if you're streaming, if you're watching virtual, buy

2315
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 2: your ticket before. Do not buy it the day of

2316
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 2: because it's gonna be impossible and you're gonna be I know,

2317
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 2: someone's gonna be emailing us the next day like I

2318
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 2: would have bought the tickets now, you know, no excuses.

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01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:07,840
Speaker 2: We'll see you Saturday for the feedback show.

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01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 4: And also if you're international and you're having issues, let

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01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 4: us know.

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01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're international, email me because apparently people be

2323
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 2: trying to hack bloom Thal Performing Arts. We've gotten a

2324
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 2: couple of people tickets already. They need like your IP

2325
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 2: address or something so they can make sure you get

2326
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 2: your your ticket. Because I don't know who's trying to

2327
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 2: hack Bloomehal. I don't know what they got against the

2328
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 2: blackout tips, but they scared. They just being they've been

2329
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 2: extra secure. So all right, all right, y'all, we'll talk

2330
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 2: to you Saturday.

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01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 1: Until next time. I love you, I love you too,