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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast was just traded by the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansi's name joined by a room

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Speaker 1: filled with some heroes. Chris westling to my left were

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Speaker 1: Egg rosenthalts am I right, what's up? Boys? Yeah? Hump day. Wow.

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Speaker 1: That one isn't over with yet. That's when you know

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Speaker 1: Dan doesn't have any preplane chit chat is back. I

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Speaker 1: got plenty of chat um. First of all, something I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited about when West's toaster, which we've been uh,

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks now, a little special treat for the listeners.

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Speaker 1: And we've never had it as a video segment, but

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Speaker 1: you know, we met Greg and myself and West met

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Speaker 1: I want to hear an awful sound drop. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: good too, but I want to hear the wind Westers

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Speaker 1: toaster soundrop. We wait, I mean you think they would

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Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there, so look out for that. Um.

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Speaker 1: Of course, our our colleagues Mark Cessler, Quiet Storm and

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Speaker 1: Space Ghost Connor or are flying back from Arizona after

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Speaker 1: attending the NFL Annual meetings. Will get to some of

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Speaker 1: the stuff that happened. Uh there in the news, uh

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Speaker 1: Greg any comments about Connor and Mark and the work

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Speaker 1: they did. I think they did an outstanding job. Great,

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Speaker 1: don't you. I mean you guys should check it out

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Speaker 1: know from the owners meetings. Mark and Connor worked on that,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of work. Also another opportunity for you,

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Speaker 1: have about Mark that you would not share to his face.

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Speaker 1: Do that? You? You do that? It seems like if

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Speaker 1: you separate like a losing game. If you separate marking me,

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Speaker 1: we are both more productive. Yes, something to note. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's a mistake that you haven't gotten You're

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Speaker 1: going to the draft. He's not. You know, it's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of I don't think that there's not some strategy

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Speaker 1: NFL kitting. One day there will be an entire chapter

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Speaker 1: about the two thousand fourteen NFL combine. Yeah, I kept exactly.

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Speaker 1: I kept West next to me in l A for

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Speaker 1: the combine this year. That wasn't by mistake. It's a

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Speaker 1: veteran move. Very good. Uh So, Yes, we got a

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Speaker 1: big show today. We're bringing our friend back by popular demand,

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks back on the show. Our draft analysts and really,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the top scout men in our building,

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Speaker 1: Of course he's been doing some Damna check shows, which

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Speaker 1: a little scout man. Yeah, we're to talk to the

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Speaker 1: Will also go as promise, we're gonna get into our

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Speaker 1: divisional power rankings and we're gonna tell you where we

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Speaker 1: can't imagine they wouldn't be nast us for two years. No,

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Speaker 1: check in with the great gold Standard. It's gold Standard Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: How are you, buddy? I'm doing great. Thanks? How are you? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Oh Man, I'm great. I'm really excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we Why don't we do some news it?

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Speaker 1: I like, Dan, when you said you were really excited

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Speaker 1: sake of argument or fund, NFC West gets uh, there

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Speaker 1: the best division so at one point, and the a

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Speaker 1: f C South is the worst division eight points, and

427
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Speaker 1: then you add it all up and you figure it

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Speaker 1: out definitively, Oh my god, definitively you know which divisions

429
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Speaker 1: are the best. So let's do it. Let's go through it.

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Speaker 1: So we'll go in UH descending order if we started

431
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Speaker 1: date why not? Or is it us? Uh and UH

432
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Speaker 1: and T and a gold standard behind the glass And

433
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Speaker 1: sorry for calling you t D so much. You guys

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Speaker 1: look similar, So sometimes I get totally understandable. It's fun.

435
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Speaker 1: I get you. What do you and TD like hang

436
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 1: out after work and go over your favorite parts of

437
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Speaker 1: the of the podcast? Yeah? We usually, Yeah, definitely in

438
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Speaker 1: person most of the time. Sometimes ever, just like meet

439
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: up for beer to be like, I remember that joke

440
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: West made that was awesome? Does TD ever get really

441
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: drunk and start talking about potentially killing us? All right,

442
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 1: let's start with the eighth and final division. They're bringing

443
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Speaker 1: up the rear and it's it's depressing. It's a total

444
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Speaker 1: thirty one points, which is easily ahead of anyone else.

445
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: Not good drum roll, police, it's a super long drum

446
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Speaker 1: roll the a f C South. So I wasn't gonna

447
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Speaker 1: let you win that one. Yeah, just started started a

448
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: little earlier from subsequent Yeah, what do they call it again?

449
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Speaker 1: Tap to penny? That al right, here we go, tippoy

450
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Speaker 1: AFC South is the worst division. Uh, looking at our ballots,

451
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Speaker 1: I had that had them seventh, and then the rest

452
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Speaker 1: of you guys had them eight. So I guess since

453
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Speaker 1: I'm the only one didn't have them last, I'll just

454
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Speaker 1: say the only reason I don't have them last is

455
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck And I think the Colts are the best

456
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Speaker 1: out of those eight teams in those two South divisions,

457
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: so to me has nudged them up a little bit. Again,

458
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: this is an arbitrary, arbitrary, but I I that's what

459
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: got them seventh place. But West, you tell me why

460
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: the NFC South is worse than every other division in football, Well,

461
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: I think all of us had a big gap between

462
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Speaker 1: the six divisions up top and then the two so

463
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: the two South divisions, I would disagree with that. I

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Speaker 1: think the NFC South is right with you know, the

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Speaker 1: divisions above it. But so the reason why I ranked

466
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Speaker 1: the a f C below the NFC is the NFC

467
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Speaker 1: has franchise quarterbacks for the most part three of the

468
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Speaker 1: four teams in the NFC has one franchise quarterback Andrew

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Speaker 1: Luck and the NFC South has the Titans. Well, the

470
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Speaker 1: and they have the Jaguars and the Titans in the

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Speaker 1: same division. Those are two of the three worst teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFL last year. I mean, you could throw

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Speaker 1: the Bucks in there, I guess, but if you look

474
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Speaker 1: at point differential, those are two of the three worst.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think Houston is a true nine and

476
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Speaker 1: seven team. I think they could fall back to the past.

477
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Speaker 1: They have one of the easiest schedule. It wouldn't surprise

478
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Speaker 1: me at all if none of these teams win more

479
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Speaker 1: than six or seven games. Other than the Colts. You're

480
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Speaker 1: not buying in on Jacksonville. March towards mediocrity are Yeah,

481
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 1: they could double their wins to six. People were even

482
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Speaker 1: more excited about them last year and they were terrible.

483
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll get the the year after effect, But the

484
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Speaker 1: Colts are It's amazing. If you look at the Colts

485
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Speaker 1: record under Pagano against the rest of the division, Basically

486
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Speaker 1: they keep winning the division just because I mean, they

487
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Speaker 1: keep having these good records because they're in the a

488
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Speaker 1: f C South but they have been very average against

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Speaker 1: everyone else. Uh. And if you look at the NFC South,

490
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Speaker 1: who's our seventh place team, twenty five points? Everyone else

491
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Speaker 1: had them, uh seventh and or seventh, and I have

492
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Speaker 1: them eighth. Uh. You know the Panthers, you know they're

493
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Speaker 1: the Panthers middle league team, didn't win a playoff game. Uh.

494
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Speaker 1: The Saints are hard team to figure out. Usually they

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Speaker 1: would have been this division would be higher if the

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Speaker 1: Saints who are are who they were, but we don't

497
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Speaker 1: know what to make of them. The Bucks are a

498
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Speaker 1: team to me to watch out for. Their probably not

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Speaker 1: gonna be as bad next year, especially if they hit

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Speaker 1: on Winston. And a lot of people seem to think

501
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Speaker 1: Winston is a player. Uh, watch out, like watch out

502
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Speaker 1: like you don't want to watch there, I don't know,

503
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna watching. I don't know. Like West said,

504
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Speaker 1: the difference between one and six and seven and eight

505
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: not good. So let's just move to six and uh.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of people are excited. Everyone's like, oh,

507
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Speaker 1: what's in the top six. And I'll tell you the

508
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Speaker 1: A C West number six with twenty three points actually

509
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Speaker 1: not too far behind. You didn't even get to the

510
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Speaker 1: end of I don't know what happened there. I'm really

511
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Speaker 1: bad at the timpany. It's not a strength of mind.

512
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: You gotta give it like three or four seconds, the

513
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,239
Speaker 1: world's longest timpani drum roll, it's like twenty seconds. No

514
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: one needs that suspense, is okay, Well, we're gonna work

515
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Speaker 1: on this future shows, but just do the best you can.

516
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Speaker 1: You're doing your best the a f C West, and

517
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Speaker 1: if you look at the a C West, Greg Rosenthal,

518
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Speaker 1: the Broncos are been perpetually great with eight manning on

519
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Speaker 1: the regular season, and then you have some middling teams,

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Speaker 1: and then you have the Raiders. Of course, I see

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, of course is one of the worst two

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Speaker 1: teams in the league. And you have the Broncos I

523
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Speaker 1: think are taking a step back. And I just see

524
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Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Chiefs as middling teams. The Chiefs

525
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: seem like that team that if they play perfect, they're

526
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Speaker 1: gonna win nine games. So not a lot of upsite,

527
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: not a lot of big time talent. That surprised me.

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Speaker 1: You have the NFC East higher than the NFC West,

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Speaker 1: and basically the NFC East is filled with four Chiefs

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Speaker 1: you called the Chiefs the house of cards. In the newsroom,

531
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Speaker 1: we were talking about this the NFC. He's the entire divisions,

532
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: the house of cards. The Eagles, who knows if they

533
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Speaker 1: if they have a quarterback or not. The Cowboys just

534
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: lost their identity with without DeMarco Murray. The Giants needed

535
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Speaker 1: O'Dell Beckham to save all of their jobs. Tag goes

536
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Speaker 1: to the division with the Raiders, going in the basement.

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Speaker 1: All right, you just hit me in my soft spot.

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Speaker 1: There uh anything else say about the a f C

539
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Speaker 1: West and I the Chargers. They were like, they're going

540
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: to be better. Yeah, this isn't a bad division, not terrible.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can win ten games. I want to

542
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: be stunning. Honestly, West has convinced me that I should

543
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Speaker 1: have gone an NFC East ahead of it. I think

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Speaker 1: that could have That's probably was the right move. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would think so. And now I'm just killing time

546
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: because I know this is such a long drum roll.

547
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: It's really nice to win. Oh, the NFC East is

548
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: number five. I keep waiting for a symbol. Sure timpany,

549
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't dream of of mixing it with anything else.

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00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: Sympathy madness. The NFC East this to me, is a

551
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: compelling division. I love Greg you know, I love the

552
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: NFC East. I love any of the East teams. I

553
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: think of my my grandfather sitting on his brown couch,

554
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: drink and roop, you're watching the Giants and Cowboys. That's

555
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: what I think about the NFCS. And you know, the

556
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are twelve and four and I don't imagine they're

557
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 1: gonna win twelve games again. Chip Kelly, I you know,

558
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: he's a genius, so you you would think there'll be

559
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: a competitive team at the very least. I think the

560
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: Giants can be better next year. The Redskins, I think,

561
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: will still be bad. So I see this, three teams

562
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: in the nine to eleven win range potentially, and to me,

563
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good division. And the Redskins might not

564
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: be that. The Redskins will be bad. This is the

565
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: NFC East is living on whatever they accomplished three decades ago.

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Speaker 1: They were, they were a solid division. Last year, Dallas

567
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: was a legit top five NFL team. Philly was a

568
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: ten win team. The Giants were probably the best six

569
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Speaker 1: win team in the league, which that's you know, I'm

570
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: just saying they were. They could have been an eight

571
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Speaker 1: win team. They weren't really. They don't look at them

572
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: and think they're a six win type of team. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's a division where at least the lows aren't

574
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: as bad as these other divisions we talked about. Now

575
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: I agree, and it's exciting. Number four moving up the

576
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: chart was the East is the number four team. Uh,

577
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 1: this is the obviously the division that's really probably been

578
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: in the headlines more than any division because of all

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Speaker 1: the moves. The Patriots, of course, of the defending Super

580
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: Bowl champions. When twelve games every year, so you know

581
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna be good. Uh. The Jets stole Reeve Us

582
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: from the uh from the Pats and got Brendan Marshall

583
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: and Antonio Carmarti made some moves. They're gonna be better.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins of course got Sue Uh, they got Kenny Stills,

585
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: they got Jordan Cameron. They should be better. And the

586
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: Bills we talked about we're uh. We've talked about the

587
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: Bills for a couple of weeks about all the moves

588
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: they're making and how exciting they have the potential to

589
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: be if they get some decent quarterback play. It's pretty

590
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: good division. Potentially this is the highest the a FC

591
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: East has ever been on. Are all important division, big

592
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 1: honor for them. Three years, three four years. I think

593
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: we might have missed last year. I don't know. But yeah,

594
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: this is a good division. It's gonna beeditive. No, it's

595
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. I mean the rivalries, the stories. If

596
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: you're into narratives, like our friend Dave Damnaschik, this is

597
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: the division for you. I mean Jets, Bills, Jets, Patriots, Patriots.

598
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: But like, no matter how you mix it up, Mike

599
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: tannem Bomb and Miami, he adds another level of it.

600
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: Just it's like the most incestuous division. Yeah, it sounds

601
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: like a nightmare. Just play the game. I don't care

602
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: about that is very anti teams are interesting though the

603
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: teams are in they bore the heck out of me. Wait,

604
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: let's slow down here, West. You love the page like

605
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: the Pats, the Bills. There's a lot of there's a

606
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: chance for them being an exciting team, a lot of

607
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: everybody hanging on Rex Ryan's every word, and they don't

608
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: have a quarterback. I do like Rex Ryan, but I

609
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: don't like that every press conference results in like pressure

610
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: to do twelve posts for a t NFL because the

611
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: rest you shouldn't let that shade this discussions. The rest

612
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: of the country thinks, I don't know, the media thinks

613
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan's more interesting than fans. What about the roster though,

614
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: this is a much better roster. Again, they don't have

615
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Jets are interests. Don't have a quarterback Dolphins.

616
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: I know this is the way I analyzed football. If

617
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: I want to watch your team, they're interesting to me.

618
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch teams without quarterback. I never

619
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Speaker 1: really took you for a guy that doesn't care about defense. Yeah,

620
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: it's okay. It's a bit of a simplistic football view.

621
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Speaker 1: For a deeply nuance football, I want, like, hey, I

622
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: want some quarterbacks that throw the football. Fie, what's a

623
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: what's a team that's been really fun to watch without

624
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: a good quarter bit? I thought the Bills last year

625
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: were fun. I liked watching the Bills. I like that defense.

626
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't know you can there's some defense. I've banged

627
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: my head against my computer like four times watching Kyle

628
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: Orton in December. See I I enjoy I You know,

629
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: I'd have a Nazi secret love affair with the Orton.

630
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: Is it more likely that the Bills win ten games

631
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: or five games? Ten? I think that's pretty easy. About

632
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, I think they're all more likely to win

633
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: ten than five, including the Jets. You know, if if

634
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: the Pats come down a little bit, just a little bit,

635
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Speaker 1: we might actually have a division race. See I see

636
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: all three of these teams is eight and eight or

637
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: nine and seven. Yeah, there should be a race. All right, Well,

638
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: then we moved into the top three. Here's the race

639
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: really gets real. Number three the NFC North, which just

640
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: barely missed out on the silver. We we got it

641
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: down by the way now because great, it's all it's

642
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: all down to you. That's great, everything everything's click in

643
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: the NFC North with nine points nine total points, just

644
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: behind the second place team. Uh. This is a division,

645
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 1: of course, that has the Green Bay Packers in it,

646
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: who still to me, we're the best team in the NFL.

647
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: Last year before Aaron Rodgers got hurt. You have the

648
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: Lions that won eleven and five, got back to the place,

649
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: but of course no longer Dominquin sue the Vikings who

650
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: have a very promising young quarterback. So who knows what's

651
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: going on with them, and then the Bears, who are

652
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, probably the worst team in the division. But

653
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: even the Bears, you can talk yourself into the Bears,

654
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean, a competitive season right west. I tried to

655
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: because I like the Bears as a franchise. I've always

656
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: liked them. Midwest team to hit you, I mean, what's

657
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: what's not to like about that? Talk about living in

658
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: the past. They play on grass, not in the dome.

659
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that's what I think of with the Bears.

660
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: But you know you gotta punish them for Jake Cutler. No,

661
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: it's a good The Vikings are a frisky, fun, third

662
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: place type of team. You got Rogers as your The

663
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: Lions are the one team that's a little worrisome, and

664
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: that's why I didn't put them as I felt. I

665
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: felt so much better about the Lions going into last season.

666
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: I can't get excited about them without Sue, even though

667
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: not as good I think Sue is. I think Sue

668
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: is great. This division number three this year for US

669
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: could take a big tumble next year of a couple

670
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: of things fall apart. The Lions have one of their

671
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: crash to Earth seasons. Seems to happen every other year,

672
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: if maybe Teddy Bridgewater doesn't develop the way we think

673
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: you will, and that the Bears are Bears. He with

674
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, the Packers could walk away with this division

675
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: by Thanksgiving. I think the recipe is the Bears can

676
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: sink lower, which they then then there suddenly among the

677
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: worst teams in the NFL. That wouldn't totally shock me.

678
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: I think they'll be better. Oh my god. Number two,

679
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I wish people could see me conductedness

680
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: the number two team the North. Alright, so the Steelers

681
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: of course, the defending champion, the Bengal as West's former

682
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: paramour UH ten and ten, five and one last year,

683
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: another playoff birth and the Ravens who also made the playoffs.

684
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: So you had three playoff teams last year. Even the

685
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: Brownies are at one point seven and four. They finished

686
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: seven and nine, of course, and are having an offseason

687
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: that probably doesn't get anybody, including Mark Sessler, excited. However,

688
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of talent in this division. You expect

689
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: at least three of these teams to be once again

690
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: flirting with ten wins at least great division. Yeah, I

691
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: picked it second because I like I enjoy watching this

692
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: when they play each other in this division, and I

693
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: just like that there's really no weak sisters. I don't

694
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: think the Browns are that bad of a team, and

695
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: in the week sisters that it's just a fun division

696
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: to watch. They can't be weak brothers. Steelers are kind

697
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: of transitioned into these past first gun at teams and

698
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: that's actually more fun. I've got nothing fresh to add.

699
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: Greg said at all, Well, they you go finally. I mean,

700
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: if the process of elimination tells you it is. But

701
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: maybe we're paying attention. That's I can totally understand. The

702
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: number one team the NFC West or Division West. Who wow,

703
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: this is huge. Rams. They give us a celebration song.

704
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you're the best division in the damn world.

705
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: Of all the celebrations. This was not a no brainer

706
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: pick for me at all. I had I actually ranked

707
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: all thirty two teams. The Seahawks were first and the

708
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: Cardinals were in the top seven two. O West did

709
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: more work on this than but the Rams and both

710
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: twenty five or below. For me, whoa really? Do you

711
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: think the forty niners are now a bottom seven team? Well,

712
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: the Rams go seven and nine every year, and I

713
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: think they have a worse roster than the Rams. Okay,

714
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: but let's let's look at the Rams o. I mean

715
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: they there. I know we say this every year, but

716
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: with a better quarterback there right? Yeah, I'm not full

717
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: them for the banana and banana and the tailpipe Dan

718
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: nick Foles? Is that banana? The Rams are that banana.

719
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: That mausoleum they play in is that banana? And that

720
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: offense that never does anything is that banana. Well we

721
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: gotta get closer to season see how it plays out.

722
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: But there is the l a factor in terms of

723
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: how is it going to start affecting some of these teams?

724
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: Because remember Bill Belichick, I mean in that Cleveland Special

725
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever talking about he said, that's the hardest

726
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: thing he's ever had to go through. Once he knew

727
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: that the Browns are moving, that was basically that team

728
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: was done. So what if the Rams have a feeling

729
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 1: like they're moving? I know I'm getting So the Rams

730
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: players all found out they had to move from St.

731
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: Louis to beautiful Los Angeles, I think they'd be celebrating

732
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: in the locker room that masole at the Edward James

733
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: almost St. Louis. I've been to St. Louis very nice city,

734
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: but there was a whole other, a whole other element

735
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: to the whole Cleveland ninety five thing about you know

736
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: what the team meant to the community, and you know

737
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: that was a very ugly, ugly moment for the NFL

738
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: and for the Browns in Cleveland. Yeah, this is the

739
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: top division, but it is on the down swing. I

740
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: put up number one because I I disagree with West.

741
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: I think all of these teams are about average, are better.

742
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: I think the bottom of those teams are more right

743
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: in the middle, middle of the pack for the NFL,

744
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: and and the cards could be pretty interesting, I think,

745
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: I think I I don't think I would put the

746
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: Niners in the bottom seven level of the team at

747
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: this point, but I think, uh seven and nine season,

748
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: I could see surprised once you start writing out the teams,

749
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna have your bottom four or five who are

750
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: pretty easy, but twenty six range you could stay. Seattle's

751
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: number one. Seattle is gonna be number one each offseason,

752
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: I guess until for a while. Who knows. If Adrian

753
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: Peterson ends up planning in Arizona, that's a big time

754
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: one two punch at top of that division. And I

755
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: don't know I'm gonna I'm really I'm gonna fall for

756
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: the trick. West. I'm totally in agreeance with what you're saying.

757
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: I probably am gonna end up putting the Rams in

758
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs when we make our predictions later this summer,

759
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, I got a bit of a sessler that's

760
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: all that they're gonna actually finally get over the hump

761
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: and be a playoff team. But you know I've been

762
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: wrong before, as we all, all right, it's time to

763
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: welcome back into the around the NFL studio. Here the

764
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: great man, the great one. He is a draft expert.

765
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: He knows his stuff in the NFL because he used

766
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: to play in the NFL, and now he's a media

767
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: analyst with us. He is the Great Bucky Brooks. I

768
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: like the surrounding together. Uh who's laugh? Was that just now?

769
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: I don't know hard to say, I don't know, it's

770
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: it's all the same, I guess. Right. So here we are, Bucky,

771
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: we're getting close. We're starting to now we're out of

772
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: the combine. It's deep in the rear view mirror. The

773
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: annual meetings. We're wrapped up now and we have the

774
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: draft up next on the calendar. But as we know

775
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: right now, Bucky Birds, we're gonna get into uh, your

776
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: draft do over, which a lot of buzz over in

777
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: round Hot. Greg has got some things to share. He's

778
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: all pumped up about it. So we want to talk

779
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: about your draft, you over of last year's draft, But

780
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: first we want to check in with you about what

781
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: you're hearing right now. You were actually on the phone

782
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: right before he came in the studio. You've been talking

783
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: with people. Yeah, I've been, I've I've been on the road.

784
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: Obviously I was. I was doing a pro day circuits.

785
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: So like that is a great opportunity for me to

786
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: get around guys and kind of see, um, not only

787
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: what do you think about the prospects that we're watching,

788
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: but just here conversations and Uh, I was at Michigan

789
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: State Trey Waynes his workout, had a chance to um

790
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: hang around some of the staff from the Pittsburgh Steelers,

791
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: some of the guys from the Buffalo Bills. I thought

792
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: it was interesting about Pittsburgh, uh talking about finding guys

793
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: that were they're kind of guys, UM, hard nose, gritty guys,

794
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: guys that cared about football. Uh, kind of more than

795
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: anything else, they kind of want to get back to

796
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: being that that bully on the block that so many

797
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: of us kind of envisioned the Steelers being. And it's

798
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: not any different things that are done. But they're right

799
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: now in the middle of a crossroads because obviously they're

800
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: still continued to flip their defense. Uh, they believe their

801
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: offense is going to be lights out, and I agree

802
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: with them on that part. But they're still trying to

803
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: figure out what to do at cornerback, when to do

804
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: with the pass rushers, how to get back to kind

805
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: of being Blitzberg and you know, kind of Steelkert and

806
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: all the stuff. What else are we hearing Bucky whisper Um,

807
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: You know? I think obviously, Uh, when you look at

808
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: the moves that the Buffalo Bills and made, they made,

809
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: it kind of seem like his fantasy football that you

810
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: just go out and get whoever you want and whatever

811
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: you want to rebuild that offense. Um, looking at that offense,

812
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: I believe that offense is primed and ready to go.

813
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: In terms of this skill position, guys, they have everything

814
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: that you want. Running back, Lashawn McCoy underrated signing and

815
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: Jerome felt and allowing them to be a one back

816
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: or two back team outside bringing in Percy Harvin to

817
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: go with Charles Clay. So now you have two players

818
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field that can command attention.

819
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: Sammy Why because if Robert Woods are two of the

820
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: I think a very intriguing young one to punch and

821
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: so when you look at the problems they can into

822
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: the defense, you really have to figure out, how do

823
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: we want to play the Buffalo Bills. Do you want

824
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: to do an a man front of stop Shady McCoy,

825
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: How do you count for Percy Harvin? How do you

826
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: deal with Charles Clay and really the explosive playmaker and

827
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. They have all of that. And I know

828
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that people throw back because on Twitter

829
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: they were like the quarterback, they don't have a quarterback,

830
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: they don't have an elite quarterback. I just point to

831
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: the success that not what Rex had with Sanchez but

832
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: Greg Roman when they took over the San Francisco forty

833
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: nine is people doubt whether Alex Smith could be a

834
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: guy that could lead a team to a high level

835
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: of performance. They did that. Colin Kaepernick, having watched him

836
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: at practice, there were serious concerns about could he ever

837
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: be a starting quarterback. He comes in takes them right

838
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. I just believe in their ability

839
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: to cater the offense to fit the skills of the

840
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: quarterback where he can just drive the bus and have

841
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: success as opposed to being the guy that's the focal

842
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: point of the office. What you're saying is basically, any

843
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: old mid level to low level starter like Matt Castle

844
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: can jump right in there and look rather good and

845
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: win me a sandwich. Because we're gonna have a proposition

846
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: here Castle versus Darren McFadden, who has a better season.

847
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: Forget he j man. You know he's not going to

848
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: get the job, But how do we how do we

849
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: calculate this Castle? We're gonna have a who's hanging on

850
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: McFadden if McFadden, if they don't another running back, I

851
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: think we'll have success behind We're gonna have a offensive.

852
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: I know I'm not going for Matt Castle. And the

853
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: Steven's panel of judges Mark Sessler, Dan and uh Ali

854
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: bun Perry got a judge three of them. I think

855
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to go. If Matt Castle wins the job,

856
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm more inclined to go with him, just because if

857
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: you look at his track record, when you're surrounded by

858
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: weapons in New England, he lit it up. When you're

859
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: surrounded by play maker lit it up. They won eleven games, right,

860
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: But if he plays at that level, it's not fantasy football.

861
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's gonna throw for four thousand yards.

862
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying that they're going to win a ton of games.

863
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: The key that you have to understand, unless you're one

864
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: of the four you talk about, one of the four

865
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: league quarterbacks in the game, everyone else has to play

866
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: complimentary football, meaning that all the pieces of the posts

867
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: will have to work in unison. The defense, the running game,

868
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback not making mistakes. All of those things have

869
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: to work for them to win. So, unless you're Aaron

870
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: Rodgers or Peyton Man will not even pay Man anymore

871
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you typically can't win without the weapons on

872
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: the outside to make you look better. I would say

873
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: that Matt Castle steps into a situation where literally all

874
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: he has to do is be a good decision maker

875
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: and that offense will score points on this song. The

876
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: defense is good enough to be a top to defense

877
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: with Rex Ryan take it over if he doesn't screw

878
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: it up. But if they're going or elen games, what

879
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: happens though, what happens Before I was gonna say, we

880
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: got Tyrod Taylor in the building, there you've got e j. Manuel.

881
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: Uh does it have to be? Is Matcastle the only

882
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: guy that can make them a playoff team? Or can

883
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: one of those other guys potentially stepping via injury or

884
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: performance and do something. So I think either one of

885
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: those guys can do it. I think think that you

886
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: have to understand with with Rex, like EJ. Manuel, a

887
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: lot of people kind of love criticism matter, but I

888
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: think he's only played twelve games. It's not enough for

889
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: a young quarterback to make the evaluation of the young

890
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: quarterback whether he can or can't do it. They're not

891
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: going to ask the quarterback to win games solely on

892
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: the strength of their right arm. They're going to ask him,

893
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: don't turn the ball over, make the plays that are

894
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: dead to be made, and trust your weapons to make

895
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: it happen. Right now, I think you could say that

896
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: they may have as many explosive weapons as any other

897
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: team in the National Football League, from Shady to Sammy

898
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: Watkins to Percy Harvard, Charles Claybying a guy that control

899
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: the middle. They just have to get the ball into

900
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: the hands of the playmate and Jerry Hughes. Those guys

901
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: are explosive weapons too. I mean everyone thinks weapons on often,

902
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: and that's why I would never expect Matt Coustle to

903
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: be a guy that rings up a lot of three

904
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: hundred Matt Castle e j Mann to ring up three

905
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: hundred yard games. I think looking at the blueprint when

906
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 1: San Francisco was winning very early in his tenure, two

907
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: hundred yards is kind of the barometer. If they get

908
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: to two hundred yards, that's a pretty good day for

909
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Playing the way that they're going to play.

910
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: If you dare them to pass the ball, I think

911
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback will have more opportunities. But the fact that

912
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: Shady McCoy's in the backfield it challenges the way that

913
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: you have to play defense because you can't line up

914
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: and double cover everybody. You load the box. You have

915
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: one on one and they have scary playmakers on the outside.

916
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: They have a lot of options. I just think the

917
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: quarterback has to be a good decision maker. They remind

918
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: me of the Uh the great Lovey Smith era Bears

919
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: teams when they have Brian ort Locker and Lance Briggs

920
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: and Mike Brown and then you have Devin Hester, the

921
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: best special team's weapon in league. And they wasted a

922
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: super Bowl window because they had Craig Krenzel Chad Hutchinson.

923
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: They went to the super Bowl with the team they

924
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: we're judging everything on super Bowl wins. That would mean

925
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: that the nineties Buffalo Bills were irrelevant even though they

926
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: dominated the league for four years. That's doesn't mean. I'm

927
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: just saying, like you have to be able to get

928
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: to the dance to be danceing. I totally agree with

929
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: with everything you said there. I just think that Bears

930
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: team could have been to four super Bowls if they

931
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: had quarterback play. And this Bill's team, to me, is

932
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: not good enough because of the quarterback play. Alright, gentlemen,

933
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: So that is uh, that's good talk there. But let's

934
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: get into now something like I said, a lot of buzz,

935
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: a lot of heat, Bucky Brooks is smiling, mug is

936
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: next to the byeline. Uh. Two thousand fourteen NFL Draft

937
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: you over and uh. I found this very interesting read.

938
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: First of all, there are nine teams according to Bucky,

939
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: that if they had a chance to do it over

940
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: how things UH shake out in Bucky's mind, that they

941
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: would make the same pick. I bet you do go

942
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: year by year. That's probably not always the case, but

943
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: right off the top of the list is the one

944
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: that jumps out at me. You have the Texans. They

945
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: do not keep Jadav and Clowney in this in this vortex,

946
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: this time vortex, they go with Teddy Bridgewater, who of

947
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: course was the number thirty two overall pick in Maze

948
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: draft last year. Tell me why, Bucky, and tell us

949
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: why in the audience, why Teddy Bridgewater is the number

950
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: one pick in your mind and a do over scenario,

951
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: you should have been the number one pick last year.

952
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: Was the best quarterback coming out of college. Anyone who

953
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: watched the tape understood that he was the most pro

954
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: rad He was the most polish of all the prospects

955
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: at the position. Yet we allowed Uh the clouding of

956
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: a pro day workout to kind of torpedo his stock.

957
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: Anyone who watched him play in Minnesota saw him continue

958
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: to get better and better as the season went on.

959
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: The Houston Texas went through four quarterbacks. If they just

960
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: had a steady presence at the position, they probably would

961
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: have gone to the playoffs. And I think if you're

962
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and you look back and you understand that

963
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: you've got minimal contributions from Jadeveon Clowney, if at all

964
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: teddy Bridge would have comes in and solves the biggest need.

965
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: They continue to go. They probably went ten eleven games

966
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: and going to the playoffs. But they left a pretty

967
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: good player on the board there. I knows has fired

968
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: up about this what we're pretty good playing number ten.

969
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: There's there's one no brainer Hall of Famer from this class,

970
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: and no brainer after one year we're putting Odell Beckham Jr.

971
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: It's not gonna do anything. Oh my gosh, what do

972
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: get for us to put him in the Hall of

973
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: Fame after everyone already knows about it. We're analysts, we're

974
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: supposed to stay happy. Odell Beckham is no brainer. You

975
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 1: can put his year, his twelve games there with anyone

976
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: that we've ever seen come into the league. Don Budson,

977
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, I'll standing, I'll stand in production on a

978
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: losing team, and he saved Tom Coughlin's job. Security line.

979
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: Understand but understand. Understand this. Victor Cruz comes back his

980
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: production excute because Victor Cruz. If you look at what

981
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: Victor Cruz is doing, very early in the year, he

982
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: was wearing people out running the slam from the slot position.

983
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: You now have two guys who can make a ton

984
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: of place. I expect Odell to continue to be the

985
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: guy that's the number one receiver, but I think you'll

986
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: see more diversity from that offense, a little more balanced

987
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: those guys that continue to roll. I loved Odell Beckham Jr.

988
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: Coming out, not really to annoy him a Hall of Famer.

989
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: I think he's special. I felt that the stuff that

990
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: we talked about with Sammy Watkins and some of the

991
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: other receivers, where we act like there was a huge divide,

992
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: I didn't believe that. I just believe that we saw

993
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Have an opportunity to show people that

994
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: he can make plays. One point, you say, you know

995
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: crews will change the situation, But he's not coming back

996
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: from a hamstring strain. I mean it's kind of like

997
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: a very serious knee injury, but I mean like a

998
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: c L injuries, Like people come back from a c L.

999
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: You know he will be fine coming back from that.

1000
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: I think he will continue to be a guy that

1001
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: is very effective. I think modern medicine does wonders. He

1002
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: will come back and be a very very effective player

1003
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: in the slot once he gets comfortable. But having two

1004
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: of those guys plus Ruben Randall, they didn't have a

1005
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: full compliment of receivers another year. With mcadoo's system, I

1006
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: think they'll continue to make a ton of plays. I

1007
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: think they do build around Odell Beckham Jr. I don't

1008
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: know if you'll continue to play at the level that

1009
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: he played at because now everyone has studied what Odell

1010
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: Beckham does? Will he be able to counter what defensive

1011
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: coordinators due to slow him down and minimize effect. I

1012
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about this because we're so focused in

1013
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: on this year's draft. Sometimes people they stopped scouting the

1014
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: guys that are actually in the league and we were

1015
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: so used to talk into this whole crop. I thought

1016
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: that the redraft was fascinating. First of all, this was

1017
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: a great draft. We went into it last year saying

1018
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: it was a great draft, and it was a great draft.

1019
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at this first round and

1020
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: you do over, it's a lot of big time players,

1021
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: and we gotta give credit to guys like you. You know,

1022
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: DJ had Bridgewater number one at quarterback of all time,

1023
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: a guy Josh Norris, So I like a lot of

1024
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: rotot He had a number one overall on his list

1025
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: and that that's looking pretty good. But there were some

1026
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: curious decisions here. I think I'm a little surprised that,

1027
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: for instance, the co over here Greg Robins. Greg Robinson

1028
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: goes to the Rams again, this time at thirteen, But

1029
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: that still seems a little I uh. I was interested

1030
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: to see Eric Ebron still going fairly early in this

1031
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: draft after a really a lost rookie season. Yeah, but

1032
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: part of the lost rookie season may have been the

1033
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: complexity of the system that he was thrust into slow

1034
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: down his feeling to make place. No. I think when

1035
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: Joe Lombardi comes in and tried to put a lot

1036
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: of the New Orleans Saints stuff in with Detroit lines,

1037
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: I think that offense underachieved based on the personnel that

1038
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: they had, from Reggie Bush to Matthew Stafford to Calvin

1039
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: Johnson and the other players that they had. They didn't

1040
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: light it up like a team with that kind of personnel.

1041
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: And talent should I believe now year too, most rookies

1042
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: or most players make the biggest jump from your one

1043
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: to year two. I think Ibron would be more comfortable.

1044
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: I think you finally see him allowed his talents to

1045
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: kind of show through as opposed to thinking and kind

1046
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: of playing a step sword and he normally would play.

1047
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: Did the Jacks really take Bortles again at three? There worried?

1048
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're sold on him. I wasn't

1049
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: necessarily sold on him being a franchise quarterback early in

1050
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: his career. I felt like he was more of a

1051
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: developmental prospect. However, they threw him on the field. They

1052
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: feel good about his progress. I believe he will always

1053
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: be a guy that's kind of a high turnover magnet

1054
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: just because of the way he plays the game. But

1055
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: if surrounded by playmakers, and I think they do have

1056
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: a young developing cast or pass catchers, debt are going

1057
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: to be good. Alan Robinson, Marqise Lee, Alan Hearns. I

1058
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: think those guys eventually be good enough for he to

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00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: be a very productive player. They still need to find

1060
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: an answer in the running game. But if they can

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Speaker 1: run it and alleviate the pressure on him to carry

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Speaker 1: that offense. I think he'd be fine in Jacksonville. It's uh.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes these draft free dudes make my head hurt. So

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Speaker 1: you have the Bengals of four. They're do over pick

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Speaker 1: is Jeremy Hill, who they took in the second round

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00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: in real life their actual pick darkus Denard. Does that

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Speaker 1: mean he just there's like a rip in the time

1068
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Speaker 1: space continuum. He's just there're spinning clocks and Eagles MC

1069
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: squared around him and he's just floating away forever. How

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Speaker 1: does this work exactly? But he helped me well with

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Hill. I think anyone who watched Jeremy Hill make

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Speaker 1: an impact on that offense would probably view him as

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Speaker 1: a first round talent. I believe he was the best

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Speaker 1: running back in the draft. I believe he went to

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00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: a situation that was perfect for him because Hugh Jackson

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Speaker 1: understood what he could be. He also had inside intel

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Speaker 1: having worked for Cam Cameron. He knew that Jeremy he

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00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: will understood how to play the game in the pro

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00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: style system. That success was real. I think they were replicated.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they would take him higher. Dark the question time

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Speaker 1: space continue um. Dark Residinari is a guy that will

1082
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: be he didn't play, But like understand and talking to

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00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: people there, sometimes coaches are tied to veterans because they're

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00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: scared of the mistake factor. I'd rather depend on the

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00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: veteran because I know he knows the system, rather than

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00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: put the young guy out there to allow him to

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00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: gain the experience to eventually maybe be a better player.

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00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: And so I felt like in Cincinnati they leaned on

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00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: the vets, pac Man, Terence Newman rather than throwing the

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00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: young guys out there Drake kerk Patrick, Terrence Newman went

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Speaker 1: dra Kerbatrick and Dark West. Because they put the young

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00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: guys out there, let him go through their mistakes, they

1093
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: can have success. Leon Hall was another guy. Leon Hall

1094
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: can't play at a high level anymore. They need to

1095
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: play the young guys so they can have the experience.

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00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis called Dark Quest the best young quarter cornerback

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00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: he's ever been around, and then he never played him,

1098
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: and that's he has been around some great cornerbacks from

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00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: the Ravens old Ravens days, and I think he saw

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00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: that they just couldn't get For whatever reason, they wouldn't

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00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: put the young guys on the field. Drake Ker Patrick

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00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: finally got on the field late in the year, played

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00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: pretty well. They end up mentioning Terrence Newman in critical

1104
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: moments down the stretch so they could play the young guys.

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00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: If they played the young guys earlier, I think you

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00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: would have saw more contributions and better play from their defense.

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Speaker 1: I like that the Browns there, they still have the

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Speaker 1: twenty two pick here, you know, because that's you know

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Speaker 1: what they took in the end, they traded up for

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Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel. But if they had just done what for

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00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: once all the fans really wanted them to do, and

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Speaker 1: what everyone was complaining after the draft, how could you

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Speaker 1: not take a wide receiver early? Really, they would have

1114
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: been so much better off if they took a wide

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00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: receiver early and then they did the conventional thing because

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00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: you could not have missed in the first round with

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00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: at wide receiver and they could have taken Calvin Benjamin

1118
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: that was who you gave him him. I'm not giving

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00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 1: a hard time to the Browns. Like after the first

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Speaker 1: day of the draft, everybody said they were the big winner.

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Speaker 1: They filled a major need at cornerback, they thought, and

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00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: then they went all in trying to change the identity

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Speaker 1: of a losing franchise, didn't show up in your first round. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that I would say about the Browns

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Speaker 1: and their philosophy when it comes to the court to

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Speaker 1: wide receivers, what first round receivers played in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So in their mind when they're building the team, they

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Speaker 1: were trying to build a team that wasn't necessarily quarterback centric.

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Speaker 1: They wanted to have a bunch of solid players in

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00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: key areas so they could do it. So because of that,

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00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: they thought Santonio Holmes, you know, going back and forth

1132
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, I just wanted But but this

1133
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: one in New England, who was the number one receiver there?

1134
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: Who was the Pro Bowl receiver that you were about. Yeah,

1135
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski is a guy. But on the outside, they're

1136
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Speaker 1: playing with undrafted and later round picks. No one that

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00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: really sizzles anyone in terms of draft pick And talking

1138
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: to Ray Farmer in the past, he talked about that

1139
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: wasn't just the last year with Chop Chop and Doug

1140
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: Ballwin and uh, Chris Richard, the guy who came from

1141
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: foot locker like Julian Ellman and Danny Ammondola. None of

1142
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: those guys were prized possesses his draft picks, yet they

1143
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: went to the super Bowl. So and thinking about building

1144
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: your team, you're saying that there are multiple ways to

1145
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: build it. They believe that you could do it without

1146
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: expending big money or a big draft cash on wide receiver.

1147
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: We'll see if it comes from I highly recommend you

1148
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: check out Bucky's work on NFL dot com, including his

1149
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: draft do over. And Bucky is one of those guys

1150
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: that you should be plugged in on right now. Uh,

1151
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: because the guy does his work and he has a

1152
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: lot of interesting takes and he's a big fan of

1153
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah, unless you're Zack Martin, then don't read

1154
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: this because the poor guy gets to be an all

1155
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: pro as a rookie, can't even move up over sixteen draft.

1156
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: It's just it's just such a perfect it's such a

1157
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: perfect fit. And I do wonder if sometimes, because you

1158
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: play besides such talented players, if some of your deficiencies

1159
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: are masked. Yeah, we'll see exact marks continued to all right,

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00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: thank you very much for stopping by, Bucky. And you

1161
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: know we heard you were on the Damasheck Show again.

1162
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: This is right, it's a power day I mean, I'm

1163
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: a podcast free agent, so I'm kind of have their flowed.

1164
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm kind of taking you know, I'm trying to determine,

1165
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: trying to see what's going on for a while. Though.

1166
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: You know, these free agents they might start annoying the

1167
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: teams if they know they keep you gotta make a decision,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying that. Well, I would like

1169
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: to see myself as more of a drill Reevis. I

1170
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: want to play the game right. So each year you

1171
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: go and make sure when you go on, when you

1172
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: go on Dave Show, it's like Reevas signing with the

1173
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: Jets instead of the Pats. You know, let's let's make

1174
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: the right call here, Let's make them comparison call. All right,

1175
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: that's it, Bucky, thank you for stopping by. Sure, we'll

1176
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: definitely have you on again. Thanks you up on the

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00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: right deal. Appreciate it. We will be back on Thursday

1178
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Speaker 1: with or Friday. We'll be back on Friday, and of

1179
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: course when West's toaster will be back uh with with

1180
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: a big, big big steaks. West trying to get his

1181
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: crown back. It always got his crown, but he wants

1182
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: to make sure everybody understands who Chris Westling is, which

1183
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: is pure champion at the top of his game. Well,

1184
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: he wants to end his losing streak. I've lost one time.

1185
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: He's got his but he's well, when they show the

1186
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: standings in the paper and it says streak and he've

1187
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: lost one game in a row, what does it say.

1188
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: It says l one you're on. I think that's a

1189
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: bastardization of the words streak, which always which always involved

1190
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: more than one game in history until newspapers. I don't

1191
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: know why this, This whole storyline always to me goes

1192
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: back to Rocky five and uh, everybody called the Uh

1193
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: Tommy Gunn, he's a paper champion. They're calling you a

1194
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: paper champion right now. Well, it doesn't really. I don't

1195
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: think Mike Tyson is really worried about trash talk from Buster.

1196
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: Doug was twenty years later very good. So that is tomorrow.

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00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: That is the big, big event. And of course, like

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00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: we said, it will be on NFL now or we'll

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00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: have video of it at the very least for you

1200
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: guys to watch later maybe next week. So uh, thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening. As always, we'll have Mark Sessler back

1202
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: on Thursday to join us but for now I'm signing

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Speaker 1: up for the mailman and the Boss and the great

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00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: gold standard behind the glass. Until next time, ye