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Speaker 2: All right, let's shoo it live on a Friday edition

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Speaker 2: of the program, merely Bow the great z A draft day.

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Speaker 2: We got pick, we got a pick, buddy, who gets

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Speaker 2: some picks?

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Speaker 3: Finally we do have some picks. Let's live a little bit,

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Speaker 3: Let's have some fun. Let's get some players here to

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Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns. And look, yesterday was fun. It was

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Speaker 3: historic in many ways. I thought it kicked off eminem

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Speaker 3: kicking it off was awesome. I thought Rodge was a

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Speaker 3: good spirits all night.

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Speaker 4: It was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Roger's like the commissioner version of hef with that shirt unbutton.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: You had fourteen straight offensive players drafted to start the draft,

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Speaker 3: which is an NFL record. I think what was the

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Speaker 3: final tally? I can probably do that really quickly. So

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Speaker 3: we had one defense, two defense, three, four, five, six, seven,

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Speaker 3: eight nine defensive players, so twenty twenty three on offense.

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Speaker 3: The previous record was nineteen in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Weapons, yeah, weapons, weapons, weapons. We talk about it. Quarterbacks, quarterbacks, quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: Draft one until you find one kind of a mentality.

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Speaker 2: We are far more disposable with quarterback than we've ever

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Speaker 2: been in the history of this league. You can get

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Speaker 2: off of them relatively quickly. People don't get fired if

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Speaker 2: you have to get rid of one in two years

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Speaker 2: sometimes even uh, it's pretty wild. The way continued, considering

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Speaker 2: the way you and I grew up in the sport

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Speaker 2: and following it where you got four or five years

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Speaker 2: to see if you could play or not. Now it's

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Speaker 2: by the end of year one or two. If you're

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Speaker 2: not hitting, we're moving in another direction, and they're far

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Speaker 2: more disposable quarterbacks are than they've ever been.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: The thing that jumped out to me the change in.

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Speaker 3: The cellar cip But Sam Brownford's draft was the last

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Speaker 3: draft where that's right. He came in as basically the

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Speaker 3: highest paid player.

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Speaker 2: He was elite sixty million or something and guaranteed right

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Speaker 2: out of the gates. The other thing that jumped out

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Speaker 2: to me, and obviously the Pennix thing, was the one curveball,

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Speaker 2: but the rest of it was chalk and if you

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Speaker 2: go back to what we said, what all of the

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Speaker 2: things that we were hearing in February at the combine,

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Speaker 2: they kind of all came home to roost. I mean

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Speaker 2: it went the way it went, Caleb, it went. There

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Speaker 2: was Jaden and Drake. It was kind of a back

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Speaker 2: and forth over the last month and a half. Jaden

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Speaker 2: was the kind of consensus for eighteen months. It was

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison's going to be the first position player drafted.

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Speaker 2: He was Jim Harbaugh was going to draft to tackle.

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Speaker 2: He did. It's crazy, crazy Neighbors to the Giants, Like,

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Speaker 2: how could think about neighbors going to the Chargers where

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Speaker 2: he's the clear number one versus yeah, with an elite quarterback?

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Speaker 3: Yes, And then said he's going to the Giants where

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Speaker 3: they have a question, big question market quarterback they do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It was so there was a lot of chock.

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Speaker 2: The Penix was the curveball, and now we get into

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Speaker 2: Dave ball. Yeah, big one. Although I was Jason looking

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Speaker 2: for in The Washington Post wrote about this that despite

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Speaker 2: what it looked like on television last night, that Arthur

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Speaker 2: little bit later on.

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Speaker 3: I was a pretty unique looking reaction in the draft room.

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Speaker 2: It was. But he's got the receipts looking for as

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Speaker 2: your guy, you know him, I do. He's got the

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Speaker 2: receipts in the Washington's Post. So we got day two

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Speaker 2: today for perspective on that. Dane Brugloo joins us on

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Speaker 2: the hotline right now. He's our resident draft goury. He's

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Speaker 2: the best in the business. He works with the athletic

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Speaker 2: of course, the beast is sitting on our table right

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Speaker 2: now as we're going through this. He joined on the

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Speaker 2: Twisted Tea Hotline Twisty Hard iced T official sponsor for

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Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. Dane, Let's just

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Speaker 2: start by looking back at last night. What jumped out

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Speaker 2: to you?

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Speaker 5: I mean, six quarterbacks in the top twelve, something that

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Speaker 5: we've never seen before. That will be the lasting storyline

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Speaker 5: from this draft. You know, fifty percent of the first

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Speaker 5: twelve picks being quarterbacks. It really speaks to the desperation

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Speaker 5: there was a clear separation between the top three and

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Speaker 5: even though the phones were ringing. A lot of teams

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Speaker 5: the Commanders, and the Patriots. They didn't budge, which don't

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Speaker 5: blame them at all, and then it became just kind

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Speaker 5: the Broncos. Really rarely do we see teams be able

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Speaker 5: out to them, but it really speaks to the uniqueness

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Speaker 5: of this quarterback class. So it'll be fascinating to track

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Speaker 5: these guys not only this year, but the next three

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Speaker 3: Dane, First of all, congratulations, Your top twenty two on

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Speaker 3: your top one hundred all got drafted. You had twenty

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Speaker 3: seven of the thirty two first round picks in your

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Speaker 3: top thirty two, which I think is awesome. Now, there

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Speaker 3: were a couple of outliers, and it starts with the

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Speaker 3: eighth overall pick, Michael Penix, who was fifty second on

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Speaker 3: your big board. I don't know if you'd updated between

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Speaker 3: the time I printed this out, maybe two days ago.

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Speaker 2: What.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you had to ask people, and I can

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Speaker 3: tell you from talking to people you know around here

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Speaker 3: varied reactions to it.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've never been more shocked during a draft,

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Speaker 5: just frankly and honestly, Like, I mean, we knew Michael

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Speaker 5: Penich was going to go in the first round. Yep.

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Speaker 5: You know, I my top one hundred. I always care

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Speaker 5: about being right three years from now more so than

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Speaker 5: on draft night. So you know, even though Michael Penich

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Speaker 5: So maybe Michael Penix is more well liked by several teams,

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Speaker 5: There were the Saints were interested in Michael Penix and

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Speaker 5: I mean that was a team that was mentioned. But

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Speaker 5: they did with Kirk Cousin. They just it doesn't make

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Speaker 3: They're not a quarterback needy team. They just gave somebody

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Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars guaranteed. And while he is thirty

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Speaker 3: five and coming off of an achille is maybe and

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Speaker 3: here's the thing that I don't understand. They had to

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Speaker 5: Sure's absolutely.

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Speaker 3: So they knew that back when they signed kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: Well, they knew that when they only met with him

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Speaker 2: is they didn't work him out. They only talked to

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Speaker 3: It's wild, wild, I mean, and he's if Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 4: So maybe he plays more than that.

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Speaker 3: But even if it was just the two years Penix

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Speaker 2: Is this I mean?

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Speaker 3: It just feels unprecedented on many many levels to me.

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Speaker 5: On one hand, I understand, like, throw as many resources

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Speaker 5: You know, I can understand that line of thinking. But

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Speaker 5: talking about a top ten pick in a draft where

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Speaker 5: you want top ten picks because there's elite, blue chip

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Speaker 5: talent at the top. So yeah, the Falcons, they could

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Speaker 5: have added a stud receiver Rama Dunes, and he could

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Speaker 5: They could have gone with it, more offensive line help.

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Speaker 5: They could have traded back and got a lot more picks.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of different things that they must

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Speaker 5: have loved Michael Pennix playing and simple.

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Speaker 2: Where why why sign Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 5: It must have been something that was developing, you know,

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Speaker 5: But it's it's tough because hypothetical, let's just say Drake May,

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Speaker 5: we just can't pass on this guy. Yeah, how they

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Speaker 5: but it is a I think a miscarriage of resources.

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Speaker 5: It really is, because it's you have an opportunity to uh,

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Speaker 5: I mean, just where things stand right now, they're probably

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Speaker 5: the favorites in the NFC south right and exactly, and

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Speaker 5: You know, pad your team, your roster, so you're not

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Speaker 5: You have a chance to really go far. Why it's

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Speaker 5: hard to justify why they would make this decision now,

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Speaker 5: who knows Kirk Cousins might get hurt. In week four,

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Speaker 5: Michael Pennix comes in and is lighted out, and it's like, well,

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Speaker 5: it's all they made the right choice, you know, like all,

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Speaker 5: we'll see how this whole thing plays out. But right now,

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Speaker 5: it's just it's hard to understand the thought process.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. It's here's the other thing. Cousins is

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Speaker 2: participating with the receivers and all of those things. It's

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Speaker 2: it's the damnedest thing in terms. They can't be both.

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Speaker 2: They can't be right on both. Well, no, and it's

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Speaker 2: I think it's the word, you know, use that word

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Speaker 2: human analytics, Like in their head they're thinking and the

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Speaker 2: fun I even said last night, this is like four

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Speaker 2: or five years, you know, maybe it's four or five

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Speaker 2: years before they play Penix, which is just the stupidest

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Speaker 2: we all know that. But then but then the thing is,

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Speaker 2: you're not taking into account the guy you just drafted.

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Speaker 5: And they're not a traditional number one over now picking

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Speaker 5: It's amazing when you look back at that trade the Bears.

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Speaker 3: And we saw, you know, we talked about a weapons league,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's if you're Buffalo. They just had a

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Speaker 5: It is one worth taking at this spot for them?

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Speaker 2: All Right, Dane, how did this fall for us? We

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Speaker 2: You know this organization as well as anybody. You know

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I still think they're going to look at this

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Speaker 5: The Browns with Mason Smith from LSU six five three

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Speaker 5: whether it's a Troy Franklin or somebody else. I did

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Speaker 3: Interesting with the defensive tackle there. What what if it

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Speaker 3: What can you tell us about him? What stands out

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Speaker 5: Every team wants six to five three pounds and they're

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Speaker 5: But that that's what he offers. He's a former top

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Speaker 3: So looking at your round two, Round three Mac, which

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Speaker 5: I certainly think that's possible. And you know, we talk

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Speaker 5: the guy that we saw go five overall. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean there's a lot of ability with Blake Fisher.

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Speaker 5: And again it's a more he's not the most technically

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Speaker 5: proficient player, but he's big, he can move, and you know,

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Speaker 5: he he actually reminded me a lot of Nicholas Fatigue Freere,

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Speaker 5: who the Titans drafted in the third round couple of

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Speaker 5: years ago out of Ohio State. You know, a player

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Speaker 5: who is kind of like their swing tackle, I guess,

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Speaker 5: and you know, we'll see if he can lock down

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Speaker 5: a starting job for the Titans. But has a lot

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Speaker 5: of ability, and so you know, you see you see

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Speaker 5: the quickness, you see the strength of the point of attack. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you see a guy that needs to be more consistent

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Speaker 5: in areas. But this is why you have offensive line

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Speaker 5: coaches to coach these guys up. I think he could

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Speaker 5: be in the mix for sure.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, folks, The beast is sitting on our desk. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Dane Brugler writes it. You get it with a subscription

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Speaker 2: to the Athletic. Yes, and if you have it with you,

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine watching a draft without it, quite honestly,

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Speaker 2: because it is it's a it's a cheat code on

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Speaker 2: the draft. I was incredibly different understanding there's no way

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Speaker 2: you could have done the job you did last night.

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Speaker 3: With this that's impossible, or today or tomorrow chance or

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Speaker 3: the TV show where I went through four guys at

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Speaker 3: five different positions, so twenty guys and I could sound

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Speaker 3: like I knew what I was talking about all right there,

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Speaker 3: and really I was just parting the words of the

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Speaker 3: great Dane Brugler. And you are given credit throughout my

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Speaker 3: diatribes about these players because you are the one who

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Speaker 3: provides me with the information. So that is very very helpful.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, everybody get it. It makes It's like when

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Speaker 3: you watch a great show. We're watching Bow and Eye,

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Speaker 3: you you just finish it. I'm watching Showgun. You almost

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Speaker 3: need either the Ring or the Vulture kind of reviewcap

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Speaker 3: after this companion piece that you're like, Oh, that's what,

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Speaker 3: that's what's going. Oh that's who that is, that's what

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Speaker 3: that's what this is. This is the ultimate draft companion piece.

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Speaker 2: Girl said, thanks, brother, Thanks for your time.

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Speaker 5: All right, guys, enjoyed a night and tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: got a lot to get to. We're going to take

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Speaker 2: a deep look at what could happen in the second

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Speaker 2: round for us, the third round for us. Obviously, Ze

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Speaker 2: and I have not broken down what happened last night,

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Speaker 2: although we did a little bit. There was a lot

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Speaker 2: to get to on that front. Gonna be a fun

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Speaker 2: Hi, Welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily Second and third

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Speaker 2: rounds tonight. Much of it was chock a lot of them,

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Speaker 2: a lot of the mock drafts in terms of you know,

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Speaker 2: if there were twenty eight to thirty two players that

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Speaker 2: they had in mock drafts were selected, A lot of

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Speaker 2: the order was selected. Yeah, the penix was the first

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Speaker 2: curveball in this thing, and it's a tough one to

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Speaker 2: wrap your head around. You're starting to trickle out this

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Speaker 2: how it happened. Raheem Morris gave the most stupefying answer

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Speaker 2: I've heard last night. I should see if I can

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Speaker 2: find it. I had the quote on it up. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think I have it. Go ahead. They've had the

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Speaker 2: eighth pick. Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 3: They've had the eighth pick back to back years and

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Speaker 3: they've used it to select a running back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a quarterback, a back, a backup, a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 2: All right, So this is the quote. This is Penix

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Speaker 2: last night. I'm gonna just read this verbatim. He got

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Speaker 2: called on the clock about calling cousins. He got called

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Speaker 2: on the clock obviously because of the sensitive time with

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Speaker 2: the issues of what you've got going on. It's never

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Speaker 2: a right time to talk to a quarterback about those things,

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Speaker 2: and reactions are always going to be private when it

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Speaker 2: comes to those things, unless Kirk decides to tell you

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Speaker 2: some of those things that are whatever they may be.

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Speaker 2: But he's a competitor just like us all and you

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Speaker 2: can always expect those things to go just like you

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Speaker 2: kind of think that is the biggest word salad, bunch

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Speaker 2: of nonsense. What he's saying is that Kirk Cousins probably

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Speaker 2: is pissed off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hike brother, you're doing what.

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Speaker 2: We have a team that can win the NFC. Give

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Speaker 2: me a weapon, give me, give me a defensive game wrecker.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna got the first defensive player on your board

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Speaker 3: for your defensive hit coach, Aymorse.

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Speaker 2: You could have gotten Roma Dunese and said.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna go a Doomsay, Kyle Pitts, Drake Glennon,

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Speaker 3: Bjon Robinson, Rondelle Moore is a gimmick guy. Darnell Mooney's

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Speaker 3: there who has a thousand yard season under his belt

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Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, and we're gonna just we're lighting up

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Speaker 3: the scoreboard. And by the way, we already have an

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Speaker 3: excellent defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Instead there's saying, oh, we're not gonna do anything. By

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Speaker 3: the way, when when Kansas City did this with Patrick

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Speaker 3: Mahomes and Alex Smith, they had one more year with

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Speaker 3: Alex Smith and then they wanted.

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Speaker 2: Smith was the established starter. He was a former number

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Speaker 2: one overall for sure.

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Speaker 3: It is this is they did just pay him free

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Speaker 3: agent money and take them the playoffs. The year before

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Speaker 3: he was their quarterback, and they're saying, Okay, we've got

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Speaker 3: one more year with him. Now we're going to get

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Speaker 3: somebody for the future and he can learn from it,

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Speaker 3: and that's all great. You gave Kirk Cousins four years,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty million, one hundred guaranteed you can't

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Speaker 3: get out of it for two years. It's two years now.

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Speaker 3: Denver did and said we're going to eat fifty million.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that that's a successful formula. No, And

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Speaker 3: so I think it's stupefying. Here's the other part of

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Speaker 3: it that makes no sense. So Number one, it certainly

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Speaker 3: looked like Arthur Blank was not happy. That was a

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Speaker 3: very awkward thing. That draft room really didn't celebrate. It

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Speaker 3: was kind of like, yeah, and it maybe feels I

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Speaker 3: don't know what ultimately happened. Umber two, if you were

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Speaker 3: planning on taking Michael Pennix, you, I would assume knew

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Speaker 3: that before you were on the clock, and I would

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Speaker 3: think that conversation that could have been had with Kirk

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Speaker 3: Cousins could have been had a day in advance, a

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Speaker 3: week in advance. Could you had a month advance, Hey,

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Speaker 3: we love this Michael Pannick's kid. You're the president, you

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Speaker 3: think he's the future. If he's there, we're going to

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Speaker 3: take him. Yeah, and maybe they didn't want that out.

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Speaker 3: They didn't Kirk Cousins would go be so upset that

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Speaker 3: he would say something. I mean, he's a professional. I

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Speaker 3: don't think there's any way he would.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe though, because his feelings here have been leaked

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Speaker 2: out rather quickly and strongly, because it's absurd. No, no, I know,

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Speaker 2: but like you could, maybe he is somebody who would say, hey,

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Speaker 2: they're thinking about doing this, like get this out there.

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Speaker 2: How stupid this is. So maybe they they I will

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Speaker 2: say this, they went to great lengths to keep this quiet,

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Speaker 2: to the point of not even bringing him into Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: That's wild to not bring a first round quarterback into

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Speaker 2: your building. They met with him for forty five minutes

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Speaker 2: of the commine. That's it. That's it.

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Speaker 3: It makes They didn't go to the pro day, that

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Speaker 3: didn't bring him. Inchle Pennix is it has been an oft.

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Speaker 2: Injured And by the way, this is not I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to sit up here and act like I know

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Speaker 2: quarterback evaluation. Okay, you get good, right, but you get

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Speaker 2: plenty of right and wrong. That's not what this is about. No,

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Speaker 2: it's not about that. I have who knows who's going

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Speaker 2: to be good. Drake may might be the best guy

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Speaker 2: this whole lot. Who the hell knows? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. It's really hard. It's more the process that.

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Speaker 3: You remember when I asked Andrew Berry in that chair

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Speaker 3: Monday night for the draft preview show, I said, what

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Speaker 3: if blank would be a successful draft for you?

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Speaker 2: And what was his answer? Do you remember his maximization

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Speaker 2: of resources?

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Speaker 3: This is a minimization of resources. In fact, you took

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Speaker 3: your most valuable asset, made your running back before he

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Speaker 3: played it down, one of the top paid players at

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Speaker 3: his position, and so you're already you get no benefits

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Speaker 3: at all for drafting him early and from a from

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Speaker 3: a monetary standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Then you'd go the next year and you take a

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Speaker 2: backup quarterback who is old older Yeah four next week, So.

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Speaker 3: That means Kirk Cousins is playing for two years. My

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Speaker 3: guess is Kirk Cousins with Drake, London and Bijon and

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Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts, that's gonna work out, alright.

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Speaker 2: I would think, so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're probably gonna pay him play him again

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Speaker 3: the third year.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So we're talking about a guy who's not gonna play,

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Speaker 3: barring an injury, till he's twenty six or twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: It's wild, like Jordan Love wasn't old like that.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, doing that there, you may have

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Speaker 3: been able to win a Super Bowl one of those

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Speaker 3: years had that been a piece that was valuable and

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Speaker 3: could have helped you. And it ran Aaron Rodgers out

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Speaker 3: of town. Oh yeah, they d out of town basically, No,

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Speaker 3: for sure, No, I don't get it. It's a tough one.

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Speaker 3: It's I I mean, I understand what they they're thinking.

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Speaker 3: Was draft a quarterback till you get one, I guess,

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Speaker 3: But not when you have a team that's ready made

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Speaker 3: and not at number eight overall, they could have trade

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Speaker 3: out just so maybe maybe the Raiders were enamored. That

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Speaker 3: was always what you heard that they were enamored with

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Speaker 3: him at first. So let them give you, let them

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Speaker 3: come up and take him and let them give you

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Speaker 3: thirteen and something else.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. Yeah, someone in that building loves him. Here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: Here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: They've had two major decisions to make, and I don't

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Speaker 3: know what heind what the future will tell us about

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Speaker 3: those two decisions. But the two decisions major that they've

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Speaker 3: made in the last couple of months. Three major One

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Speaker 3: was he get Kirk Cousins universally praised. You're now the

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Speaker 3: favorite in the ac NFC South. Two hire a new

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Speaker 3: head coach. We don't need Bill Belichick. No, No, he's

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Speaker 3: not good enough for us. No, we're gonna go through

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Speaker 3: he Morris. That feels questionable. And three, the most valuable

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Speaker 3: asset your franchise possesses the eighth overall pick in this draft.

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Speaker 3: You're drafting an older, oft injured backup quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, No, it was wild in terms of

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Speaker 2: the other things last night, it's I asked this of

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Speaker 2: Dane and I was for our discussion as well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, he might be in the best position a

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Speaker 2: number one overall pick has ever been in. Yes, the

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Speaker 2: luck was in a pretty good spot because they weren't

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Speaker 2: a typical team that drafts number one either because Manning

642
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Speaker 2: got hurt and so they kind of they were in

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Speaker 2: a holding pattern a little bit. So he walked into

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Speaker 2: a pretty good spot.

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Speaker 3: And Curtis Curtis finger Painter was playing quarterback for.

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Speaker 2: Them, right, But I mean they fell into Luck and

647
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Speaker 2: so they they had him, and so he walked into

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Speaker 2: a good spot. But typically number one overall you're walking

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Speaker 2: into a bad spot. This reminds me. The only thing

650
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Speaker 2: I could think of was like when the and they

651
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: don't have the success rate, but in terms of number

652
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: one pick great spot, it reminds you a little bit

653
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: of like when the David Robbins got hurt and they

654
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: ended up with Duncan, and it was like, that's not

655
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: a typical team drafting number one. This Bears team is

656
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: not a typical team drafting number one. This is a

657
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: team that spent three years trying to build around fields.

658
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: And then the Carolina Panthers make one of the most

659
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: boneheaded trades of all time, and now all of a sudden,

660
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: they're picking number one again and guy the consensus number

661
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: one quarterback in this draft. And now along with the

662
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: Dunezia following DJ Moore, Keenan, Allen cole Comet, good grief,

663
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: they are pretty loaded up. If Williams is good and

664
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: if the coaching can match.

665
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: So the team that Andrew Luck stepped into their leading

666
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: rusher was Vic Ballard, who averaged three point nine yards

667
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: of carry. They have three point eight yards carry As

668
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: a team. They had Vic Ballard, Donald Brown and Mowelby

669
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: Moore at that point was not the Mawelde Moore of

670
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: his heyday in Minnesota. Their receivers, their leading receiver that

671
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: year was Reggie Wayne, so he still had Reggie Wayne.

672
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: He had t Y Hilton who had eight hundred yards

673
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: and seven touchdowns. They had Donnie Avery who had sixty

674
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: for seven eighty one and three, which was one of

675
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: the best years of his career. And their top tight

676
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: end was Dwayne Allen. So it was good, but it

677
00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: was not DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, no Roma, Donze Comet

678
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: and DeAndre Swift. So no I and in fact were

679
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: this the Minnesota Vikings with you know, Kevin O'Connell calling

680
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: the place feel good. But Shane Waldron's done did a

681
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: very good job in Seattle. They've been a fun offense.

682
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: Geno Smith completely resurrected his career with Shane Waldron. So

683
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: I think that he's quarterback friendly and that's one of

684
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: the reasons that they brought him there. And he's eleven

685
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: personnel friendly, Yeah, which is what they're gonna they are

686
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: going to live in eleven personnel.

687
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: They are, they will.

688
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: They may play every play in eleven person I think

689
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: that's probably very likely. So so twenty and ten. So

690
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: the twenty ten Colts. So it's twenty eleven when Manning

691
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: gets hurt.

692
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: Is that the way that that worked.

693
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 3: He got hurt in ten eleven is the year they

694
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: went could put and then they draft Luck and.

695
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: So he got hurt at that beginning of the eleven season,

696
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: right or in the off season. Maybe in the off season, Yeah,

697
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: because he got hurt and then did not play in

698
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: twenty eleven. Right, Yeah, that's the that's and that's what

699
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: elicits them, like does Manning play it all in eleven?

700
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: So that's called.

701
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: Well'll pull it up right now?

702
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah too, they go two and fourteen, right, I just

703
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: don't remember the chronology of the of the.

704
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: Manning injured twenty eleven. Peyton doesn't play at all. Curtis

705
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: Painter goes eight or Lobsky go he.

706
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: Had next surgery before the season. Manning had next surgery,

707
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: so his next surgery allowed for this, and then they

708
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: leaned all the way into it with Curtis Painter went Yeah,

709
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: but the two Thousandsky was too good. Two and three, Yeah,

710
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 2: because the twenty ten Indianapolis Colts were pretty good, because

711
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: that would have been Manning's ten and six won the division. Yeah,

712
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: lost to the Chat and threw for forty.

713
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: Seven hundred yards thirty three touchdowns.

714
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne Free Andy mathis, Yeah, that's coming off not

715
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: far from removed from the Super Bowl year. But either way, No,

716
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: this is it all right? How about Queazy?

717
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: Kind of what Houston did, got his quarterback end as

718
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 3: that rusher.

719
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: And he gave up minimal to get him. He moved

720
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 2: up one spot to make sure he got his guy.

721
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: With JJ McCarthy, he gets DJ Turner on the back

722
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: end of it, where they move up a couple of

723
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: spots to get him. The reason I pose that question

724
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 2: to Dane is the same thing that you were saying

725
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: as Dane was answering it the coaching. If you are

726
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: a Michigan fan out there, and there's plenty in northeast Ohio,

727
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: this is the best possible spot for JJ.

728
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: McCarthy, the perfect offense for himself. He's very good on

729
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: the move, he's got plus athleticism. You're gonna get him

730
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: in the boots. You're gonna run that offense. He's got

731
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: two great receivers. When they get healthy, you're gonna get

732
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: you know, Hockinson back. So you'd have two great receivers,

733
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: a great tight end. You bring in Aaron Jones from

734
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 3: Green Bay. I mean, they have all the makings of

735
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: a very formidable offense. You lose Daniel Hunter and you

736
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: bring in now the pass rusher he signed, Jonathan Grenard,

737
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: and you bring it was Dallas Turner.

738
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: The name DJA Dallas Turner, dj Turner, Dallas Turner, Dallas

739
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: yea Dallas. Yeah.

740
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 3: So you're bringing Dallas Turner and Grenard's and I have

741
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 3: your two pass rushers. Again, you get your quarterback. So yeah,

742
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: I think he did a very good job.

743
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: He basically they went from kind of not sure what

744
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: their path was going to be to on the fly.

745
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: If McCarthy's good, I'll say this, whatever he is, that

746
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: situation is one that will get the best out of him.

747
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: I cannot say the same for Drake May. I cannot

748
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: say the same for Jade and Daniels, but I do

749
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: think the quarterbacks and the two best spots are those two.

750
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

751
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: I can't say the same thing for Poe Nicks. Who

752
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: is twenty four years old already and going to Denver. Now,

753
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: it seems like Sean Payton wanted him all along, that

754
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: he was the guy he wanted. Don't you remember I

755
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: do Jimmy bang Bang Jimmy Banban. When we were talking

756
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: to Albright at the combine about Nick Jimmy Bangbay had it,

757
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: Memori said he was out in.

758
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: Some lady that was talking to was the wife of

759
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: somebody in their personal department and they were taking bon

760
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: next April eleventh, read it on our show.

761
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Yeah, there you go, there you go.

762
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: So, by the way, not that big of a deal.

763
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: No, they're not. They're fine.

764
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 3: People are gonna do what they're get what they want

765
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: to do.

766
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was Pedro's thoughts of Ricky Pursall

767
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: going to the Niners at the end of the round,

768
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: He didn't know really much.

769
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: In the video of c J Stroud, who was thought

770
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: thinks he's very much a dude.

771
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 2: He must have. CJ must have thought that they could

772
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: get him with the tenth pick in the second round.

773
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: You know, it must have been hoping, Yeah, it must

774
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: have been hoping, which could tip a hand they made

775
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 3: looking at a wide receiver.

776
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: Maybe that'll be the end of active quarterbacks on on

777
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: draft shows.

778
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they have Nico Digs and Tank Dell.

779
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: I don't know why they be weapons weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons.

780
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: Weapons, like you're and you're replacing Stefan Diggs in another year.

781
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 3: Ye he he thinks it means they're trading debo, and

782
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 3: Michael Silver actually said last night that if they trade

783
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 3: one of them, it would be debo. So we'll see

784
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: if that ends up coming to fruition.

785
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 2: Supposely that's what the bill.

786
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: One of the reasons the bill's trade back to thirty

787
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: three is to buy more time so they'd have all

788
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 3: day negotiating try.

789
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: To get this thing done.

790
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, they want to get debo for Josh Allen.

791
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: Any big surprises other than Penix, The rest of it

792
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: was pretty chalky. Yeah, No, that was that was one.

793
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: I mean he had out like Dane had Xavier Lyette

794
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: at seventy six on his big board, So that makes

795
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: it feel like a little bit of surprise. I like

796
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 3: Xavier Worthy to Kansas City.

797
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do this conversation right now again. If you're Buffalo,

798
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 2: how do you do that? If you're Buffalo.

799
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: How do you do what?

800
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: They traded the pick to give it to Kansas City

801
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: to pick him. Yeah, how can you do business with

802
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: Kansas City when you're trying to beat them? They have

803
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: been the they have been the roadblock in front of

804
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: you for the entire Josh Allen Prime, and now you

805
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: enable them to draft whom they want. If I'm being

806
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: in Buffalo, I don't answer the phone. Man. If it's them,

807
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: I get a Kansas City now, I'm good. Yeah, we'll sit.

808
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure not you somebody else wants to come up, Fine,

809
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not helping you out. That blew my mind.

810
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: I could not believe that. And here's the thing in

811
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: Kansas City, skymore so long like Rice. Yeah, like they

812
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: are just going to keep taking swings. This is how

813
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 2: good they are, and how good Mahomes is. They haven't

814
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: been so good at it. But here's the thing, it

815
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: doesn't matter because they're winning Super Bowls while they're taking

816
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: swings at weapons. Who else could do that? Only them?

817
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 4: Right?

818
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's nuts. No other real surprises though, other

819
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: than that. As for the TV coverage, I was able

820
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: to watch some of it and bounced around a little bit.

821
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm a Kuiper guy. So the the way that it

822
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: felt to me was the ESPN coverage with Kuiper was

823
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: your traditional from our youth nuts and bolts football coverage. Okay,

824
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: that's what it was. Was Kyper gives you a little

825
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 2: bit of a breakdown. Lewis, who's great, he's got his stuff.

826
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: Booger sometimes I don't know, but it's fine. The only

827
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 2: thing like Schefter, they obviously were told you can't tip picks,

828
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: but he pretty much did. Like he would say, I

829
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: think in quarterback here in Atlanta, this could be a shocker,

830
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: and so that leads you to say, right so that

831
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: that I thought McCarthy though I didn't think it would

832
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: be Pennix. Iye, it would be McCarthy if anything. But

833
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: they were a very nuts and bolts and that's the

834
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: one that I spent most of the time with. I

835
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: did go over to ABC. That's what the college game

836
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: day guys were. Those are guys I'm very familiar with.

837
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: Theirs was much more, and Saban was on that theirs

838
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: was much more of a almost like listening in on

839
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: a cool on a conversation among people you know and

840
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: you respect their opinion. There's was far looser, Yeah, far

841
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: more fun for volity, looser, big picture that type of stuff.

842
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: There's There's was pretty good. Saban was good. I watched

843
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: a little of McAfee and the part that was great

844
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: it is, but I mean, it's it's all, so it's

845
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: it's one. It could be one of the great like

846
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: TV odd couples, because apparently he's gonna be on McAfee

847
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: every Monday now, which I think will be great. But

848
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: like Belichick's in a full suit and tie and pocket

849
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: square and all of that and he's sitting next to McAfee.

850
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: Bill told some great stories. He retold a Randy Moss

851
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: story which was absolutely epic about Randy when they when

852
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: they had drafted for him, when they traded for him,

853
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: rather he had. He was very good on the breakdowns

854
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 2: of like what he had seen. It was very clear

855
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: that Bill anticipated being involved in this draft, was my

856
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: read of it, that he thought, whether it was New

857
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: England or somewhere else, he was going to be drafting

858
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: some of these players because he knew a lot about him. Yep,

859
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: he was really locked in. So so that stuff was

860
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: pretty good, But I did find myself craving Kuiper I

861
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: always went back there to get his thing.

862
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: My dad watched, I know, he watched the NFL Network

863
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 3: and he liked because it was basically eyes and with Clatt,

864
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: Jeremiah and Charles Davis.

865
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Speaker 2: So you got so they brought in Clatt for that

866
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: because he's not AFL Networks five. That was the three,

867
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Speaker 2: that was the trio that was with him. So that's

868
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: a good growth, great group. That's a really good group.

869
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, all right. We will coming up next,

870
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Speaker 2: we'll take a look at what could be in sore

871
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: for us in round two and round three, take a

872
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: look at some second round mox, what position groupings they

873
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: have us going, and just kind of the mindset of

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Speaker 2: our operation. We will do that coming up next. List

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Speaker 2: sorts of round two mocks are out there. Some even

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00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: Christah Passo is around two and three mock. For us,

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00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: it's it's almost easier to do the positional thought versus

889
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: the player thought. Yes, because it's not like you and

890
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 2: I are going to have a coherent thought on Patrick

891
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: Paul offensive tackle out of Houston six seven three fifteen.

892
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: But what we can tell you is offensive tackle is

893
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: a position of need and or one that where they

894
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: are going to use one of these picks on it.

895
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: Can you tell me what Dane has to say?

896
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 4: You want to use?

897
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: You want to do that one? Do you want?

898
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 4: Well, we don't have to. Yeah, well, let's hear here.

899
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: I don't think we need to because it doesn't it

900
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 2: will be a waste of time unless the Patrick Paul

901
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: is his that's it. Let's tell me where they're ranked

902
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: on his list.

903
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: I got him as a second second third round grade,

904
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: the number eight defensive tackle.

905
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: I'll just read you offensive tackle, right, tackle.

906
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: I'll give you the quick summary, quick summer because he

907
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 3: Patris quick summary at the overall, Paul has the size

908
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: and strength to keep defenders occupied, but his rhythm breaks

909
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 3: down quickly and opponents will find success until he improves

910
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: his rudimentary recovery technique and hand usage. Similar is in

911
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: many way to Chuck woom Oka four. He has the

912
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 3: tools to develop into a functional NFL starter, but Wright

913
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 3: might require a red shirt year. So whoever we drafted

914
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: it offense tackle would get a red shirt here.

915
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: Here, provided we don't have injuries we did last year.

916
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: He'd have to have, right, You'd have to have two,

917
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: I would say, before you're getting anywhere there.

918
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he as Chris has Us taking running back Marshawn

919
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 2: Lloyd out of USC in the third round.

920
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: Marshawn Lloyd third round grade from a Dane, his number

921
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: five running back in this draft, and land Zeer Line

922
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 3: has this taking Blake Koram, who probably needs no introduction

923
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: to this group listening here today after what he did

924
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 3: at Michigan. Marshawn Lloyd, four star recruit, was the number

925
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: five running back in the twenty twenty Class B. John

926
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 3: Robinson was number one overall last year eight hundred and

927
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: twenty yards seven one point one yards per carry, nine

928
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: touchdowns overall. Lloyd doesn't have the profile of a high

929
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: volume back, but he can be a spark. He can

930
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: spark an NFL offense with his mix of patients, burst

931
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: and promises a pass catcher.

932
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: His take gives me.

933
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: Flashbacks of a thicker version of Duke Johnson when he

934
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: was coming.

935
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: He's a guy out of Miami, and some would say Duke.

936
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: Some would say that though, that he's a guy.

937
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: I would say that, maybe not the way that I

938
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 3: would like them to say it.

939
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: Len Zerline has us taking a defensive tackle ruke or

940
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: horror horro ro a rower row a ro ro row.

941
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: That sounds like Scooby Scooby doo. That's what I was.

942
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: I say, Ruke a row row.

943
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: A row row second third round grade, the number four

944
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: defensive tackle in this class six foot four, two hundred

945
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 3: and ninety four pounds, so a little bit smaller in

946
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: Mason Smith, by contrast, is sixty five three oh six

947
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 3: My call six three two ninety nine. Ruke will get

948
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: the little final background on him here. Curtsey again of

949
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: Dane Brugler, three star recruit.

950
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: He doesn't fit the U.

951
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: Or a horro so nine sacks the last two seasons.

952
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 3: He's an underdeveloped pass rush instincts and finishing skills cloud

953
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: his next level projection, but displays in intriguing movement skills

954
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: and force of contact to continue getting better and better

955
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: as NFL starting upside with scheme versatility, play multiple positions

956
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: both inside and outside.

957
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like a fit for us at all.

958
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: No Blake Corum we know at Michigan, and then Steve

959
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: Minch has us taking Chris Braswell the edge out of

960
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: Bama in.

961
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: Second or third round, Gray the number eight defensive end

962
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 3: or edge rusher.

963
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: On Dan's background. We have five edges, right, how many

964
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: edges can we have?

965
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 4: I mean you can't.

966
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: You have Miles, you have Zadarius, you have Obo and

967
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: Alex Wright. Who are four that are locks? Isaiah McGuire

968
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: drafted in the fourth round a year ago. He's probably

969
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: going to be on the team as well. Yeah, and

970
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: I think they think Alex Wright can be the successor to.

971
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: Zadarius Smith. So I don't see that one happening.

972
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 3: Braswell was a five star recruit number two weeks side

973
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: been the twenty twenty class behind Will Anderson Junior.

974
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: One year starter.

975
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: He had eight sacks last year, led the team with

976
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: three forced fumbles. Slightly under size, he's six three, two fifty.

977
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: Still a work in progress, but his first step quickness

978
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 3: and ability to convert speed to power are solid starting point,

979
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: says down the road. Starting potential reminds me of the

980
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: Bengals Joseph o'sai when he was.

981
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: Coming out of Texas. Here's the so we I do

982
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: not see us taking an edge.

983
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 4: No, here's just for.

984
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: Like a perspect So we picked twenty second tonight. It's

985
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: the fifty fourth overall. So in terms of like the

986
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: best available, just pull up ESPN. You see from a

987
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 2: defensive tackle position. Names to know Chris Jenkins, Mason Smith,

988
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: Mike Hill, those are those are the names or mikel rather,

989
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: those are the names that are kind of around at

990
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: that edge.

991
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: Brandon Fisk in that yeah, Johnny two guys in Johnny

992
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: Newton if you go later, Mackay Wingo to Andre Sweat.

993
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, those are Look, what I think is the

994
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 3: most interesting about this, and I talked about running backs

995
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: actually a little bit on the preview show yesterday, is

996
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 3: that you have two people going with running backs to

997
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: the Browns in the third round.

998
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: So that.

999
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 3: Leads me to believe there has been some chatter about

1000
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: the Browns understanding that they have got to replace Nick

1001
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: Chubb in the near and probably for the present in

1002
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 3: the future, and that they are not as enamored with

1003
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: Jerome Ford as a long term as a full time

1004
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 3: back as a lead back there. And I know Andrew

1005
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: Berry views it as more of a committee position. I

1006
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: think that he's happy with the running back room. I

1007
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: think it would have to be a case of where

1008
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 3: the board goes a certain direction and the best player

1009
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: left is clearly a running back that excites him a

1010
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: great great deal in.

1011
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: That would be Jonathan Brooks out of Texas would be

1012
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: that would be that box where if all of a

1013
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: sudden he falls to fifty four and it's like God,

1014
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 2: this is a He would have been a first round

1015
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 2: NFL in a normal world. That's a star.

1016
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: And what you have is you have time for him

1017
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 3: to get fully healthy because you have a very I

1018
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 3: think competent running back room with four Pierre Strong, Deontay Foreman,

1019
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: and Nahem Hines and then whatever you get from you know,

1020
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb when he comes back. So I do think

1021
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 3: running back is in play. I still think, barring a surprise,

1022
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 3: and I could see the board fall apart to the

1023
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: point where they go and take one of the linebackers,

1024
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: and the two that you would think about would be

1025
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 3: either junior Colson Michigan or Eddrian Cooper out of Texas

1026
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: A and M. I could see that if things completely

1027
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 3: fall apart there. But I really think it's gonna be

1028
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 3: an offensive tackle, defensive tackle, or wide receiver in the

1029
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 3: second and third.

1030
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: And then I think that unfortunately for US, I do

1031
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: think there will be a wide receiver run here. At

1032
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: the top of the.

1033
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 3: Same Blake doesn't that nobody gets to us.

1034
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: Donald Mitchell is there, mcconkey's there, Coleman is there. And

1035
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: if you look at the top of the second round, yeah,

1036
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: Franklin sure. So if you look at the top of

1037
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: the second round and you start to say, who are

1038
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: teams who would draft the receivers, Bill's thirty three overall, Yeah, absolutely,

1039
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: Patriots thirty four overs you bet, Cardinals probably not. Washington

1040
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: has two of the top.

1041
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 4: Of the Cardinals.

1042
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: So maybe maybe go Harrison and Lad McConkey and say Okay,

1043
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: deal with it.

1044
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: Let's go. Washington has two picks. You can see that happening.

1045
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: Carolina it picks at thirty nine. They need help at that.

1046
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: The Chargers probably need help at that.

1047
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: Carolina just came up and got one at thirty two,

1048
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 3: so hopefully they will.

1049
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: So maybe yeah, and then you've got obviously, with the

1050
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: tip of C. J. Shroud yesterday leads you to believe

1051
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: that Houston is in that world too.

1052
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 4: He was.

1053
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: That reaction was interesting, to say the least. But it's

1054
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: hard to imagine. I mean that three of the next

1055
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: five best available are all receivers, and I think they're

1056
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: all going to be gone, long gone by the time

1057
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: we get there. So when you start to say, all right,

1058
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: once you get deep into it, you know, if it

1059
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 2: is that position at fifty four overall, that's when you

1060
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 2: get into the Roman Wilson, Malachi Corley, so Malachi, those

1061
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: type of guys, YEP.

1062
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: So if you were to look at Dane's big board,

1063
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 3: you said, where we have twenty two picks to us.

1064
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: So his top player left is Jackson Powers. Johnson, a

1065
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 3: center from Oregon, was twenty third, Cooper de John twenty

1066
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 3: fifth corner out of Iowa, Johnny Newton, defensive tackle two

1067
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: out of Illinois, twenty eight kool Aid McKinstry, which is

1068
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 3: such a great name, Lad McConkie wide receiver, so it's

1069
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 3: the first receiver. Marshawn Neeland an edge out of Western

1070
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: Michigan out of i Mitchell who is a wide receiver.

1071
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 3: He is a six rank wide receiver out of Texas.

1072
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 3: Zach Fraser center of West Virginia, Chris Jenkins tackle Michigan,

1073
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 3: Ken Coleman wide receiver Florida State, Cooper Beebie guard Kansas State,

1074
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: Jaden Hicks for safety on his board out of Washington State,

1075
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: Kingsley the tackle from BYU, Roman Wilsons. He got a

1076
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 3: bunch of mission guys in a row, actually forty one

1077
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 3: forty three. But there are the receivers that his receivers

1078
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: left are wide receiver five McConkie, wide receiver, six Mitchell,

1079
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 3: seven Coleman, eight, Roman Wilson, number eleven, Malachi Corley, number twelve,

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Speaker 3: Troy Franklin. Those are the receivers that could be. Jalen

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00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: Polks wide receiver thirde teen. He said he has I'm

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00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 3: seventy fourth that could be in play if it's receiver.

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00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 3: The tackles, it could be you know, Kingsley, which would

1084
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: be a good value certainly. There I mentioned the linebackers.

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00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 3: That's why he's Colson forty second overall, Cooper forty six overall,

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00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: so maybe that happens there. And then the defensive tackles,

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00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 3: Chris Jenkins. We talked about Johnny Newton, who will likely

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00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: be gone by the Browns pick, and then he got

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00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: a horror ho who he has fifty first, my call sixtieth.

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Speaker 3: What's interesting is Mason Smith as his defensive tackle six

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00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 3: and doesn't have those other guys going ahead of him

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00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: in his mock, second round mock. He has actually a

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00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: horror going. I mean he has Mason Smith going before

1094
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: Hall Junior or a horror, horror, horror horror.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's great, but he doesn't feel like it.

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00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: And I don't want to have to have him come

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00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: in here on Monday and his name in front of him.

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00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't fit like a fit for us. And I

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00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 2: just imagine him showing up here on Tuesday and coming

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Speaker 2: into Cleveland Browns Daily and me butchering saying that name

1101
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: and worrying that I'm not going to do it right,

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00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: because I hate doing that in front of somebody. It's

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Speaker 2: one thing to do course behind closed doors.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we forgot while we talking about the

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00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: Chiefs earlier, they also signed Hollywood brown so they have

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Speaker 3: two sub they're just taking four to guys who are

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Speaker 3: going to be flying around.

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Speaker 2: Gone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Worthy can burn.

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00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: You'll hear from some of the We talked about Belichick,

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00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: We talked about the Falcons and their brass. CJ. Shroud's

1112
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Speaker 2: favorite quarterback. We'll look back on all of that coming

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Speaker 2: up next. You listen to Cleveland Runs Daily on a

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Speaker 4: With Deep Big.

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Speaker 6: In the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns selects

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Speaker 6: Miles Garrey defensive end Texas A and.

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Speaker 1: M Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Balley bed

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Speaker 2: All right, second hour here. It is a mailbag Friday,

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Speaker 2: So get your questions into gibbe at Browns Underscore Daily

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00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 2: and we will answer those coming up in about twenty

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Speaker 2: minutes from now. Before we get to the soundbitees A

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Speaker 2: couple of things I want to run by you. Marvin

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00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior not signing his NFLPA. So I went to

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Speaker 2: go look at his jersey on Cardinals dot com. No, can't.

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00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 2: Bootsy would have loved it. Beams probably would have arned

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Speaker 2: it can't. So he hasn't signed it yet. What is

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Speaker 2: the So? What is the upside here?

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00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 7: Marvin Harrison Junior is not signed as NFLPA licensing deal.

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00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 7: The message that appears on the NFL Shop and other

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00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 7: sites attention Cardinal fans. Currently, Fanatics and other retailers are

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00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 7: not able to offer Marvin Harrison Junior merchandise until he

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00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 7: signs a licensing contract with the NFLPA. Products will immediately

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Speaker 7: be available once he signs.

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Speaker 4: What's his?

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00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: Why?

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00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: What's his Yeah, that's what's the why. So there's this

1139
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: has happened in Madden. He won't be in Madden okay

1140
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: now right now? No, do you remember like the old

1141
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: like there was an old NBA game in the nineties

1142
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: that didn't have Charles Barkley in it. Yep, there was

1143
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 2: one that didn't have Jordan in it. There's been plenty

1144
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: of instances where guys don't sign the NFL the NBA

1145
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: PA thing. In fact, I think wasn't Bernie that way

1146
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: in super Techmo, because I don't know there was it Techmo.

1147
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 2: There was somebody somebody wasn't the player in Techmo.

1148
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 4: Or super Tech back were there?

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00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 2: Bernie's in it, but there was somebody who wasn't. Who's

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00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: no newsom was there's a player in super Techmo that

1151
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: is like quarterback sixteen, quarterback eleven.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: I can't remember who it is, but there is one

1154
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: that's that. It was a prominent player. So this has

1155
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: happened before.

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00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: Belichick doesn't give it to Madden. It was always New

1157
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 3: England coach.

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00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 2: Wasn't New England coach. So I just don't know what

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00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: the upside for Marvin is on this to not just

1160
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: sign it. Like you don't have that much marketing possibilities, dude,

1161
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: Like to where you're gonna market your own jerseys?

1162
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 4: Right? I mean, come on, not the way the NFL

1163
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 4: can reach.

1164
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Speaker 2: No.

1165
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 3: No, Randall Cunningham, that's was it. Thank you, Randall Cunningham.

1166
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 3: Jim Kelly was quarterback. Bills quarterback Eric Dickerson was also

1167
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Speaker 3: not in it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I knew that there were prominent but Randall's

1169
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: the one you wanted to play with, ye and you couldn't,

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Speaker 2: so he was QB Eagles.

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Speaker 3: It says his jersey, his face. The name won't appear

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Speaker 3: in madd until he signs. He would retain full rights

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00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 3: to those intellectual properties here, so he could sell his

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Speaker 3: own jersey.

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Speaker 2: Who's he getting to make? Who's gonna make it? You

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00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: can't make a cardinal's jersey. You're gonna said, sell red

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Speaker 2: number eighteen's.

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Speaker 3: It would allow him to work out his own deal

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Speaker 3: with EA Sports.

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Speaker 2: Come on, dude, don't be so difficult. He wasn't like that.

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00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know where this is coming from.

1182
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: I think it might be because dad said, Dad had those

1183
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: weird comments about how I.

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Speaker 3: Want him to be more sellish and the guy interview

1185
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 3: and that's not Mary Smith.

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00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like you weren't.

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00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: So he's like, so you want your kid to be

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00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: more of a diva. That's when that's your advice for him?

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Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, I think I wonder if that's

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00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: just bitterness because he doesn't get talked about as much

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00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: from his greatness. I don't know it's I don't know.

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00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: It's off putting though all of it. And then did

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00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: you see David Tepper going to the bar the pitt

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00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: Panthers owner. So there's a restaurant in Charlotte where a

1195
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: woman where they in the sign says, uh, please allow

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Speaker 2: the coach or general manager to make the pick this year.

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Speaker 2: Tepper goes in with like his guy Friday, walks into

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Speaker 2: the restaurant, it's on the security cam, takes the cap off,

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Speaker 2: the manager, sets it down. The manager apparently he's wearing

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Speaker 2: an Eagles cap and like reads them the Riot Act

1201
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: for having this sign up. Dude, you of all people

1202
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: should know cameras are everywhere. What are you doing? Still

1203
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: hasn't learned those poor drinks on people?

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00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Mess, I mean debacle. By the way.

1206
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 3: On a little bit of a lighter note, did you

1207
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 3: see the interview with Thomas's family, the wide receiver Lsu

1208
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: who was drafted, No, drafted by the cow the Jags.

1209
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: Oh, is this the Tony Kahn stuff?

1210
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: No, we'll talk about that second elite. It makes me

1211
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 3: like him. I wasn't a big fan. I like him

1212
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: so much more now. That was all time And McAfee

1213
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: commented on it, k fans alive and well, I mean

1214
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: an NFL owner was in his war room in an

1215
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: Andy Kaufman era style neck brace after taking a pile

1216
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 3: driver on his wrestling well.

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Speaker 2: The NFL owners sitting behind him.

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Speaker 3: Yes, who came out on the wrestling program, Shod came

1219
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: out to tend to him after he took the vicious

1220
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 3: the time of their life. Yeah, it's good for them.

1221
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: It is good for them. So they interview I think

1222
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 3: it was ABC on the ABC broadcast. They interview his parents,

1223
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas parents. Reporter sander, how far has your family come? Like,

1224
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: talk to the daddy's so proud that he's been drafted.

1225
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: How far has your family come? The mom answers, we

1226
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 3: came from Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: Good. Good, it is that unreal? That's great. All right,

1228
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: let's let's hear from some of the luminaries from last night.

1229
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: So this is and this is our guy de Orlanda

1230
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: who asked this question. Is he in the question or

1231
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: is this just this is his question?

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Speaker 7: Because Falcons questions cut off, you could just tell okay,

1233
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 7: so this is de Orlando, the Falcons brass on the

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00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 7: drafting of Michael Pennocks.

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Speaker 8: It was pretty simple for us when you get Kirk

1236
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 8: Cousins and you talk about short term winning. You talk

1237
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 8: about winning right now, which we know we're gonna be

1238
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 8: a positioned to do what we want to be a

1239
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 8: position to do. We won't have the ability to be

1240
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 8: picking this high again with the guy that we got,

1241
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 8: and these guys go off the board pretty quickly, and

1242
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 8: we thought it would be important for us to address

1243
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 8: our future quarterback right now where we're picking this low

1244
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,479
Speaker 8: in these moments and to be able to move forward.

1245
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 8: You know, fortunately enough with us, we got a Kirk,

1246
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 8: We've got a Kirk cousin in the building. We got

1247
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 8: a guy that can go out there and win football games,

1248
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 8: and we should be picking high enough. Were talking about

1249
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 8: winning the South, which talked about doing some of these

1250
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 8: things that includes going to the playoffs. You just seen

1251
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 8: six quarterbacks go off the board before the twelfth pick

1252
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Speaker 8: of the draft, and we don't want we don't want

1253
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 8: to be picking on it anymore. And Terry's done a

1254
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 8: nice job of getting some really good players, some quality

1255
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 8: of players, but we don't be back in that position.

1256
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 8: So like, let's move forward, think about the future, address

1257
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 8: that right now.

1258
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: We're in a position to win. We put ourself in

1259
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: position to win.

1260
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Speaker 9: These guys have done a great job of doing that,

1261
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 9: and that helped us make that decision, and it made

1262
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 9: it pretty definitive in our building for us and how

1263
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 9: we wanted to move tonight and how we wanted to

1264
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 9: move today with that thing happening that way.

1265
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 4: Yep.

1266
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 10: And there are a lot of still a lot of

1267
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 10: good defensive players on the board, and we're excited to

1268
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 10: have at this point three picks tomorrow and we'll make

1269
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 10: sure we continue to add to this team, not just

1270
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,479
Speaker 10: good defensive. There's still good offensive players on the board.

1271
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 10: So we're gonna we're gonna add some good players in

1272
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 10: this draft.

1273
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: Here's the deal. If he hits, then nobody cares. Yeah,

1274
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: we're not. But if he hits, it doesn't matter, then

1275
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 2: that's fine. It'll be kind of the way that you

1276
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: it's a big if, but it'll be like Jordan Love

1277
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: with Green Bay, Like he was pretty good last year,

1278
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: and so the feeling was, well, maybe they did okay

1279
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 2: with this thing, right, but you're missing out. That's it.

1280
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: That's what you're missing out on.

1281
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: At what cost? And that's the thing is, it's the

1282
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: opportunity cost. And I think if you were to ask

1283
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: the guys on those packers seem I think if you

1284
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 3: were asked Matt Lafleur, he would have rather had a

1285
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 3: player who could have.

1286
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: Helped him win then.

1287
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 3: And for this Falcon team, yeah, maybe it works out

1288
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: in a few years, but what's the rest of their

1289
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 3: roster look like at that point? Whoh, it's so hard

1290
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 3: to even project what you're going to be there. You

1291
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 3: brought in Kirk Cousins to win, now, that was exactly

1292
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 3: the question was one spot on, So why are you

1293
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 3: making a move for in their words, like for four

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Speaker 3: years from now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Bill Belichick was on with Pat McFee last night

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Speaker 2: and a lot of it was great, told some great stories.

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Speaker 2: It was clear, as I mentioned earlier in the show,

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Speaker 2: that he was very much preparing to be part of

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Speaker 2: the d room in a war room, and he had

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Speaker 2: done a lot of homework on these players. Here he

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Speaker 2: is on McAfee describing what he sees in Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 11: Well, again, Kao's a really talented guy. He's kind of

1303
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 11: like Russell Wilson, really good, lower body, strong, pretty fast

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Speaker 11: and has.

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Speaker 4: A tremendous arm.

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01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: He can make all the throws.

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Speaker 11: He's got a lot of different motions and all that.

1308
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 11: Sometimes that helps him sometimes not so much, but the

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Speaker 11: kids really talented. I think if he can be more dependable,

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Speaker 11: not turn the ball over, be more dependable with his

1311
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Speaker 11: reads and more consistent and help the team, you know,

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Speaker 11: he's got a chance.

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Speaker 4: To be a really good player.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, he was very tough on all the quarterbacks, like

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01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: he was tough on Drake May in terms of some

1316
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Speaker 2: of his deficiencies. So he was It's a bit abundantly

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Speaker 2: clear to me that either he thought he was going

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Speaker 2: to be coaching the New England Patriots and drafting another quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: or he was going to be coaching a team that

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Speaker 2: was drafting a quarterback because he had done a great

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Speaker 2: deal of research on the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: Did they Did they at all on that program discuss

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Speaker 3: the report?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 2: I didn't whicker sham. I didn't see it, not when

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Speaker 2: I was watching. I wasn't watching it non stop. Yeah,

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01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: my hunches. If they did, it would have made its

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Speaker 2: way out virally.

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Speaker 3: Was he he had to be on dirt when they

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Speaker 3: pick when the Falcons picked Pennix.

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Speaker 2: Right, he was, he was on. I didn't see that

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01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: part of it. I'm so curious. I watched what he

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01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,479
Speaker 2: thought of May and then I saw this stuff going around,

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01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: but when the Patriots were picking, I wanted to see

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Speaker 2: his thoughts on that. Ye, Sean Payton, who has overseen

1336
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: the dismantling of the Denver Broncos as they were built,

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01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,439
Speaker 2: gets his guy in bow Nicks. Let's have a listen.

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Speaker 12: I think the biggest thing is trusted what you're seeing.

1339
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 12: You know, you could have backed up and got him.

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Speaker 12: And I heard that with Patrick Mahomes when when Kansas

1341
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 12: City took him, and I'm like, well, they couldn't have

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01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 12: backed up and got him because we were taking him

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01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 12: with the next pick. I think before Pennix was taken,

1344
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 12: we were discussing like a slight wiggle. Then you start

1345
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 12: looking at it and saying, is it worth the risk

1346
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 12: for a third round pick?

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Speaker 5: And I'm just.

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01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 12: Glad if it worked out in our favor.

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01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: He's excited, and I.

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Speaker 12: Just like, you know, it's harder to be a gym

1351
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 12: rat these days. I like the fact that he's one

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01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 12: of them.

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01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with Nix and Pennix, it's a great

1354
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 2: example of going to quarterback finishing school. If Pennix stays

1355
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: at Indiana, he is not drafted in the first round.

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01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 2: Clearly He's probably a third fourth at best round pick.

1357
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: And who knows if even that. Bonick started as a

1358
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: true freshman at Auburn. He had some moments, but then

1359
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: it went bad bigly. His dad played at Auburn. There

1360
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: was all the pressure in the world. He goes out

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01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: to Oregon, goes to quarterback finishing school for two years

1362
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 2: at Oregon, and now he's a first round pick. Same

1363
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: thing happened with Pennix playing with Kaitlin de borr Out

1364
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 2: at Washington. I do think that the NFL is now

1365
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: a little bit more open minded to players because they

1366
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: can see more of them. These guys are sixty plus

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01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 2: starts on Nix and Penix, Like you had a pretty

1368
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 2: good idea what they are. This isn't a situation where

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01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 2: you're drafting a guy who started for a year, started

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01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: sixteen games. I mean it's five six I mean Pennix

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01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: played at Indiana. I think in like eighteen.

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Speaker 3: He's older than Pitts London and Bijhon.

1373
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: Right and next is older than Pennix. Knicks is already

1374
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: twenty four. Yeah, So, like these guys have played a

1375
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: lot of football, like they went to Essentially quarterback finishing

1376
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: school is what they did, and I think you will

1377
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: see more of that because the transfer portal. The college

1378
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 2: teams want those guys like this kid. Ohio Ohio State

1379
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: got this will Will Howard. I'm not pretending he's going

1380
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: to be Knicks or Pennix, but he started multiple games

1381
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: at Kansas State. Now he gets played at Ohio State

1382
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,479
Speaker 2: of the year with that quarterback coach in that room,

1383
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 2: with Chip Kelly, he could play himself in to be

1384
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: a second round pick by the time this is all

1385
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: said and done, sure so that it's changed kind of

1386
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 2: the mentality on all of it all. Right, Here is CJ. Stroud,

1387
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 2: last year's Rookie of the Year, on which quarterback was

1388
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: his favorite this year?

1389
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 4: Who is your favorite quarterback in this draft?

1390
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 13: My favorite quarterback in his draft? I mean it's hard

1391
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 13: at his pick one.

1392
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 14: I'm gonna talk the most NFL ready.

1393
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 4: Off like Drake Mays.

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01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 13: You watch his tape, just his arm talent jumps off.

1395
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 13: I mean, he's the one guy that like, to me,

1396
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 13: like the one mistake that I did early on in

1397
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 13: like this first couple of games, was I moved around

1398
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,959
Speaker 13: too much, Like I didn't get the ball out on time.

1399
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 13: I started taking risks that I weren't even Downfielder necessarily scrambling,

1400
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 13: and when you watch his table, he scrambles when he

1401
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 13: needs to. He throws guys open. He has he has

1402
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 13: like right here, he has rollout ability, like different arm angles.

1403
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 14: So I feel like when you watch May you see

1404
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 14: certain things that you need to play an NFL game.

1405
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 14: Like I feel like you're like, oh, that works, and

1406
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 14: that translates, and maybe the running sometimes of Caleb or

1407
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 14: Jaden you go.

1408
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 4: You can really get in trouble if you.

1409
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 13: Do that, because like I look at like I look

1410
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 13: at scrambling like NBA players hit jump shots. They defenders

1411
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 13: get the spots, and when it comes to scrambling, in

1412
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 13: my opinion, they get to their spots quicker than we

1413
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 13: can get to their spots. Just like Anthony Edwards drives down,

1414
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 13: he crosses back, he gets to his spot, he hits

1415
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 13: a shot to their spot. They get their sack in

1416
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 13: a scrambling in a scrambling dynamic.

1417
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 2: He was he was very good. CJ was very good

1418
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: throughout this. Yeah, on this that's what I heard. Again.

1419
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 3: I was in here without sound doing radio till midnight,

1420
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 3: so I didn't get to watch all this I had

1421
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: so many people text me about Stroud, about Belichick and

1422
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 3: the Mac McAfee show.

1423
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 4: People loved that.

1424
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was good Universally, I'm say I feel like

1425
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 3: they've even stepped it up even more so, I said

1426
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 3: that I've missed out on some of this.

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01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: Way, we have some news. Go ahead, read it.

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01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 3: I I don't even know how to react to this. Honestly,

1429
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 3: to reduce player risk and continue driving innovations and equipment technology,

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01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 3: Guardian caps have been authorized for in game use this season.

1431
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 2: So for those who don't know, the guardian cap is

1432
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: that padded velcrow thing that goes on top of a helmet.

1433
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: You see us wear them and writing a lot linebackers, linebackers.

1434
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 3: Tight ends, yes, not receivers, corner safeties.

1435
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you see it in practice a lot in camp.

1436
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: But then they've they've never been used in games, so

1437
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 2: this is this is a pretty big step. And you know,

1438
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: you bring up a great point like if that is

1439
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: the case, they're gonna have to be painted to match helmets.

1440
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 3: But they're not gonna have the logo on it.

1441
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 2: Well no, because they're fabric So what do we.

1442
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 3: The teams that are rolling out beautiful uniforms of the

1443
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 3: beautiful multi helmets.

1444
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 2: I think that I think we're to the point where

1445
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,520
Speaker 2: we've gone overboard and we have to just all acknowledge

1446
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: that this is not necessarily one save sport. No sport

1447
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: is there will be some injury. We've go to great

1448
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: lengths to protect the players. We've come so far. This

1449
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 2: feels like a bridge too far for me. It seems

1450
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: pretty silly.

1451
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 3: My guess is nobody's gonna wear them.

1452
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: I bet somebody does. I bet it starts out small

1453
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 2: and then it ends up. It cannot be the norm,

1454
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: that cannot be the way that the well, they're never

1455
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 2: going to undo it. They're never gonna take it away.

1456
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 2: Once you introduce it, you're gonna keep it until the

1457
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 2: helmet technology allows for a similar which what's what's gonna

1458
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: happen is there's gonna they're going to have to create

1459
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: a helmet that has, you know, an exis skeleton that

1460
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: is soft. I guess because you're not gonna guys running

1461
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 2: around like that. I hope not.

1462
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 3: It's I hope not. I really hope that they it's wild.

1463
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 2: It is.

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, gibe can we get from it's

1465
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 3: on awful announcings Twitter Mina Chimes takedown of the Falcon

1466
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 3: selection of Michael Pennock's JUNR. Diana Russini says below, Mina

1467
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 3: Chimes left no meat on this bone. Her points are

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01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 3: aligned with the majority of head coaches and GM I've

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01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 3: spoken to the last twelve hours. I'll add one more

1470
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 3: thing from a GM. Mister blank is how old eighty

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01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 3: one he wants to win now? He shouldn't be obsessing

1472
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 3: over twenty six and beyond. They have needs now, So

1473
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 3: apparently it's pretty good. And anyway, we'll.

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: Listen to it in the break and then we'll see.

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01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 2: We'll see how she did. All right, We've got your

1476
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 2: griff fact to the day. Remember it as a mail

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01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 2: bag Friday ed issue of the program presented by the

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Speaker 2: here shortly. He listened to Cleveland Browns Daily on a

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Speaker 5: Clearand what's up Cleveland?

1483
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 2: Are you ready for this?

1484
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 4: All right?

1485
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: Are you guys ready for the best in the land?

1486
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: With the twenty six take for the.

1487
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,799
Speaker 15: Twenty twenty one NFL Draft for the Cleveland Browns.

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01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: We have Gregory Newsom.

1489
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 2: The second.

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01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:58,440
Speaker 12: I'll finish the sentence for her cornerback bout Northwestern University

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01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 12: and history for that school has just been made. This

1492
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 12: is the first time ever that Northwestern has.

1493
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 16: Had two players selected in.

1494
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 12: The first round of the NFL drag for Shaun Slater

1495
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 12: earlier tonight to the Chargers.

1496
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 2: Newsom is a Chicago area kid.

1497
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: He's long, he's physical.

1498
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 16: Yet an unbelievable game against produced.

1499
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 17: David Belwait and opened up a lot of people's eyes.

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01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 12: Did not allow a completion on thod or fourth down

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01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 12: the entire season, over nine on those attempts, and there

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01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 12: he is a great celebration.

1503
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 2: Now, greg Newsom goes to Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: legacy continues today with a Overholt. I had a pour

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Speaker 2: this last night. The love does not taste like your

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01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: typical what you would think would be riot's a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Sweeter in here about in the ten.

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Speaker 2: It's a long drive, you know. The latest chapter. You

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01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,759
Speaker 2: guys should just stop working sooner, is what you should

1515
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 2: have done. You should have done that. The latest chapter

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Speaker 2: in the Evolving story of American Rye, though, tasto what

1517
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 2: two centuries experience could make with a robust Pennsylvania style

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01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 2: rye whiskey. The newest thing in rye is also the

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Speaker 2: oldest and it is available now. Those just hit the

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Speaker 2: shelves this week, so check those out. Time for the

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Speaker 2: Griff Fact of the.

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Speaker 3: Day, Fact of the Day, Fact of the Day, Fact

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Speaker 3: of the Day, It's the Griff Fact of the Day.

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Speaker 15: JJ McCarthy is the first Michigan skill position player drafted

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01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 15: in the first round since Brayln Edwards back in two

1526
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 15: thousand and five. They've had a lot of defense and

1527
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 15: O line, but no offensive skill players.

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 2: Wow, And that's how you struggle the way that they

1529
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: struggled for the gross majority of that time. And it's

1530
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Speaker 2: really only until recently that they got it flipped around.

1531
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 2: But it's not a coincidence that they finally landed a

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01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: quarterback to be able to do so. And their skill

1533
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 2: guys are good too. They're gonna bunch of second third

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01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: round guys here coming off the board across.

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01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 3: The board from the next Sure they might could that

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01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 3: tight end that they have next year maybe creep into

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01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 3: the first Yeah in play sure.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a little bit of news, gentlemen, go Roger Goodell

1539
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 7: on the Pat McAfee show. Here this afternoon, Roger Goodell

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01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 7: officially mulling a future with eighteen regular season games, a

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01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 7: President's Day weekend super Bowl, and a significant increase in

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01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 7: international games, where it could be up to sixteen games

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01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 7: a year playing overseas.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that there's any here's to go overseas.

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01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 2: You definitely don't need every team to go overseas every year.

1546
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: You do not. I don't think that. No, you don't

1547
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 2: need that. Here's it's what I would do. They're never

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01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: going to do it. I'd go sixteen game regular season.

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01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 2: You and I were talking in the break, We've talked

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01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 2: about this many times. Go double by eighteen games. It's

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01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: a blesod number of weeks. The season will be exactly long.

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: Say yeah, keep the season right where it is. I

1553
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 2: love President's Day super Bowl. That sounds great because that

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01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: gives you a Monday off the following day.

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Speaker 4: It's exactly.

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01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 7: I mean he's quoted, and then you have Monday off?

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: Did he say double bye? Uh?

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01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 7: Adding an additional regular season game could theoretically result in

1559
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 7: a second by week being added, which would lengthen the

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01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 7: regular season. But Goodell would welcome that. He said, as

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Speaker 7: the envisions of President's Day weekend built around the super

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01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 7: Bowl on Sunday night. Quote, and then you have Monday off.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. I like that.

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01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 3: Did he did McAfee say, what the heck are we

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01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 3: doing with these helmet?

1566
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Speaker 2: Do dads?

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01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if that.

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01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 2: I think that just drapped. I think this was I

1569
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: think this was last night with Goodell, wasn't it.

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01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 15: No, it was right at the top of the show,

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01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 15: way before this news broke.

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Speaker 2: What's that now, Bud, But the news broke about the helmet.

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01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the news broke about the helmets.

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01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: That was well after Yeah. So this was at one

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01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: o'clock when he.

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01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: Was new I think, yeah, he was on a new

1577
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: because he.

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01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: Was on yesterday too. Yeah, he was was he's making

1579
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 2: the rounds.

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01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 1: He was out in the plaza this this afternoon at

1581
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 1: noon as well with McAfee.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, good job, dude. So there you go

1583
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 2: on that side on that type of things. All right,

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01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: we do the mailbag Mailbag coming up next. Sure ready

1585
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 2: for a little mailbank, little mailbag edition of the program.

1586
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: Get your questions into Gibbe at Browns Underscore Daily.

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Speaker 4: Uh you se.

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Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet

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Speaker 16: Cleveland their second choice. This is the one they acquired

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Speaker 16: from the Texans when the Texans moved up to get

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01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 16: their franchise quarterback to Sean Watson last year.

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Speaker 6: With the fourth pick in the twenty eighteen NFL drafts,

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01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:37,719
Speaker 6: the Cleveland Browns select Denzel Ward, who dens and beat

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Speaker 6: Ohio State.

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Speaker 17: Okay, so another surprise from the Browns and all the

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01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 17: Ohio State fans in Ohio wow are excited over the

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Speaker 17: pick that he Denzel Ward doesn't have to leave the

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Speaker 17: state to play professional football.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bed Live

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Speaker 2: Who were they thinking we were going to pick?

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01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 5: That?

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01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: Elicited that response on the Denzel pick?

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01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 7: Uh?

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01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 2: So that shows a Bradley Chubb.

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Speaker 7: At least that's what our fans wanted in the parking

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01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:18,440
Speaker 7: lot when Zura.

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Speaker 3: Made the you know, I mean foot off the stage

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01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 3: and we picked a Buckeye and I said that, I

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01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 3: think I said that.

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01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 2: I was like, you guys been wanting a buck out

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01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: to be picked for years and what.

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01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 15: Are you doing from northeast Ohio too? That's right, that's right, Yeah,

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01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 15: shout out in Ardonia High.

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01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, very much, Coach Fox. Yeah, that's weird that I

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01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: can't I couldn't remember who was like, oh, we have

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01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: to have this guy.

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Speaker 4: Well, and I've forgotten.

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01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 7: That's why we included the one in the beginning, like

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01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 7: we got that pick from Houston so they could take

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Speaker 7: Deshaun Watson.

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01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 2: Correct that that part I do remember.

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01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 3: And then Watson got hurt and so they ended up

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 3: that pick ended up being a lot better than yeah,

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01:16:58,520 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 3: you might have thought it would be.

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01:16:59,640 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 2: So Bradley Bradley Chub's been pretty good, two time pro bowler.

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01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 3: Forty sacks, yeah, forty sacks on his Both of them

1631
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 3: have been really good.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you had.

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01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 3: Denzel, Bradley Chubb, Quintin Nelson, Josh Allen Roquan Smith is

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01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,440
Speaker 3: a pretty strong five.

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01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: Consenttion's pretty good.

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01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, mcglinchy's not bad. Rosen garbage. And then it went

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01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 3: Minka Fitzpatrick vitave At Doron Payne back to back to back.

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01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 4: That's pretty good too.

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01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 2: Here's the thing I would remind though, that the story

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01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 2: you just told on the swift was well, Denzel and

1641
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 2: Bradley was nobody knows anything. Of course you don't, so

1642
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 2: you fall in love with an idea. But they don't

1643
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 2: know is when.

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Speaker 3: You watch these things, everything is presented in the best

1645
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 3: case outcome, like best case scenario, right, yeah, so it's

1646
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 3: this guy like they'll be talking about a guy in

1647
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 3: the fifth round unbelievably he did this.

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01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: He was the fifth round for a reason.

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Speaker 4: They don't.

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01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 3: And people have their opinions, and it's easy to say

1651
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 3: your opinion very vociferously or boisterously.

1652
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 2: When they're.

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01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 3: When there are no evidentiary points to combat you.

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01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 2: Correct, they haven't played in the league yet, No, they

1655
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 2: haven't played in the league. And the thing is is

1656
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 2: what you people don't remember your missus?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:29,560
Speaker 15: No?

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01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 2: Large enough? Who brings them up?

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01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 5: Yea?

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01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 2: When I told you about such an.

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Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, I mean go back the two thy eleven

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Speaker 7: NFL Draft preview cover of Sports Illustrated, The twenty eleven

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01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 7: QB class. You choose Jake Locker, question Mark, Wayne Gabbert,

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Speaker 7: question Mark Cam Newton, question of Mark the toughest call

1666
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 7: in football?

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01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 4: Was it?

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01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. That's what it was. Yeah, it's the

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01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 2: opposite of the Wolf of Wall Street line says I

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01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: asked you to not just me on my winners, but

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Speaker 2: on my losers because there are so few. Because there

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Speaker 2: are so few, That's it all right, Mailbag present the

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Speaker 2: NMLS three zero two nine. Hello Gibbeck, Hi, Guys.

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Speaker 7: Tweet your questions too at Brown's Underscore Daily on this Friday.

1678
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 7: A couple from yesterday, yep. One was can you ask

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01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 7: Gaby or gwa And even though we don't have a

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01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 7: chance for some of these top guys in the draft,

1681
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 7: do they still talk to some of them to possibly

1682
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 7: grab a free agency in a few years.

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01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think you would do it with that maybe

1684
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 2: just to get an idea of potential for a trade.

1685
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 3: So, I mean, you're still looking at guys, but I mean,

1686
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 3: if they are really what you expect them to be,

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01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:50,959
Speaker 3: they're not going to be available in free agency.

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Speaker 7: No, at not me. Brown's Daily This is last night.

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01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 7: I got a kick out of this. Took me to

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01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 7: pick two to realize ESPN's using your music beds. Keep

1691
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 7: waiting for bo Bishop to say, all right, let's do

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Speaker 7: it live.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Do it live.

1695
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 2: That is pretty good.

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 3: By the way, did you see that the Vikings that

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01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 3: is confirmed? The Vikings did go make a run at

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Speaker 3: Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: I did them and the Patriots both made calls on that. Yeah.

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01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 2: I thought the only team that could have done it

1702
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 2: would have been the Bears. They would have had like

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01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: the assets to be able to make them think about it.

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01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 2: You know, if you're the Chargers, Yeah, if.

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Speaker 3: You're the Chargers, would you have just taken Caleb Williams

1706
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 3: for Herbert straight up?

1707
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 4: For the salary?

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01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 2: You might have since they're kind of restarting anyway, you

1709
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 2: could have just taken Caleb Williams right away, kept him

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01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: in southern California. Maybe Chicago, like that one in a

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01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 2: one and a nine for Herbert might have done it.

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01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: I want Herbert devit's.

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Speaker 7: Mac Jim Zigura. Why do you throw your bottle cap

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01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 7: away as soon as you open your water? That's weird,

1715
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 7: just as weird as having to say better or worse.

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Speaker 2: So this is one thing you do, like I I

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01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: noticed when I I never thought of it in that sense,

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01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 2: nor do I think it's weird. But you do take

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01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 2: the bottle cap and eliminate it right away, whereas I

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01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 2: leave the bottle cap on to prevent spillage.

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Speaker 3: Which I've had once. We've had one spillage because I

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01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 3: haven't gonna drink it.

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Speaker 7: No, But in all fairness, as I clean up the

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Speaker 7: studio after the show every day, you don't necessarily drink

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01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 7: all the water.

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Speaker 2: What if he was in here, mister clean style paper tells.

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Speaker 7: Usually there are times where you definitely miss with the

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01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 7: bottle cap. The bottle you hit the bottle cap, and

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01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 7: then I'm happy because I need the bottle cap to

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01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 7: close the water up to throw it away.

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01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 3: I believe he's using this as a vehicle to come

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01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 3: at me.

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01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm not.

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01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you.

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01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 2: Of course, this was going to be This was going

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01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 2: to be used as an opportunity for of course it was.

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01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, like, you don't finish your water, But

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01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 7: I don't know how many people actually do.

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01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 2: What am I going to do? Leave that water here

1740
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 2: in a half drink bottle? What's the difference?

1741
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,879
Speaker 4: I actually you do? You leave it on the table.

1742
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 4: I clean it up after this.

1743
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:14,719
Speaker 3: Maybe it could be here for me tomorrow, breathing.

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01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 7: Nature's there if you'd like, I can put it in trouble.

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01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: I don't even see a water bottle. You don't the area.

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01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 3: And what was the other thing. It's as weird as

1747
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 3: saying better or worse? Yes, because higher lower is done.

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01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 4: David Lourie, good job, Nathan.

1749
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 7: It's confusing you guys differentiate draft busts from horrible picks

1750
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 7: by the team. Guys like lance At Trubisky aren't busts

1751
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 7: because they weren't drafted high by teams without much tape

1752
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 7: to go off of put it on the team over

1753
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 7: the players.

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01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 4: They're busts.

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01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 3: I mean Trubisky, I thought back you thought the playoffs like, okay.

1756
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 2: There's no there is no black or white on it.

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01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 2: It's gray area.

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01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 4: Yes, when it when it comes to the bust conversation.

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01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 7: Uh more from the Falcons, Cleveland is the reason the

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01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 7: Falcons drafted a tight end and fourth overall over Jamar Chase,

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01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,719
Speaker 7: Micah Parsons, Jaylen Wattle, Devonte Smith, correct drafted Drake London

1762
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 7: over Garrett Wilson, and Kyle Hamilton passed on Jalen Carter

1763
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 7: to draft a running back at PICKA.

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01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, Rock and Rob says John Dowd d O w

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01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 7: d as Barry Bonds and m VP Baseball two thousand

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01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 7: and five.

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01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was. That was another one. Yeah,

1769
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 2: there there's a few of those through the years. I

1770
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 2: remember in a FIFA long time ago, the the Brazilian

1771
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 2: Ronaldo was Calcio nine because he played for Inter Milan

1772
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 2: as opposed to Ronaldo. So there's a few of those

1773
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: out there.

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01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1775
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: He was a beast by the way before the knees

1776
01:23:58,200 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 2: took him out. Why don't you go ahead and just.

1777
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,480
Speaker 3: Be a part of it.

1778
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 4: It's weird.

1779
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing.

1780
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 4: Brandon g.

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01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 7: Do you see the Browns drafting offensive line? Yes, at

1782
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 7: some point this weekend. Absolutely, yes, we do.

1783
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 4: I do. It's well documented.

1784
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 7: Brandon Enough from the clown mail bank questions for the

1785
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 7: boys after day one, who had the best day, who

1786
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 7: had the worst day? Well, I think we know who

1787
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 7: had the worst day.

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01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 2: Bears franchise quarterback, another number one receiver. Definitely the Bears.

1789
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 3: Bears, and I'd say king items of accomplishing what they

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01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 3: wanted to do.

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01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 7: Ye, even though the Vikings gave up basically their entire

1792
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 7: draft in twenty twenty five, they.

1793
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: Got their quarterback in and out. People said this, were

1794
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 2: complaining about Houston last year. How'd that work? How could

1795
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 2: you give? No, I'm just asking no, no, no, I know,

1796
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: but like people, oh, look what Houston did. It doesn't

1797
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 2: matter if you hit. If you hit, it doesn't matter.

1798
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: That's right. You mess it, yeah, then you're fired. But like.

1799
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 7: Prefer to play Augusta or pebble.

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01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 2: That's not a fair one because anybody can play pebble,

1801
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 2: nobody can play Augusta. So what you should do in

1802
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 2: that enough from the clown is and you should take

1803
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,879
Speaker 2: Augusta out of it. So it should be like Cypress

1804
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 2: or Pine Valley, or should it be for Augusta because

1805
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 2: those But you'd still choose Augusta because of the nostalgia.

1806
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 2: But these nostalgia for for sure. So like if you

1807
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 2: the good one would be Augusta once or Pebble. I

1808
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 2: think we did this once Pebble once a year for

1809
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: the rest of your golfing life, that would that's when

1810
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: we have because you can't play Augusta. That's the problem.

1811
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 7: What's the genesis of a len six show?

1812
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 4: Name Uno?

1813
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 2: That's on you, guys. I don't know that.

1814
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 3: It was one point second, the second, the second, Stevie, Yeah,

1815
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 3: second second, second second, eating.

1816
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: The swallowed eating, eating, swallowed whole is it chewed?

1817
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 5: No?

1818
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,799
Speaker 15: Well, I also can't escape it now at this point,

1819
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 15: like have you seen people are calling me out on

1820
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 15: Twitter in public all over the place.

1821
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: Then it's worked. Are you Have you seen Life Aquatic

1822
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 2: with Steve Zeesu?

1823
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 5: No?

1824
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 3: I referenced it on the Draft previews show last night?

1825
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 2: Did you really?

1826
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 3: Because the tackle from Byu is Kingsley kings Sumadai. I

1827
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 3: think yes that and I just called him Kingsley and

1828
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 3: I said, might as well be Kingsley Zesu from the

1829
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 3: great film Life a Quad.

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01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1831
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 4: Uh.

1832
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,560
Speaker 7: After losing Harrison Bryant to free agency and using a

1833
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 7: few visits on some tight ends, what do you think

1834
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 7: the chances are we drafted tight end today, in particular

1835
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 7: Jatavian Sanders from Texell Spirit of CBD.

1836
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 2: That guy's locked in. He's dropping You're to CBD's his name,

1837
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 2: Alex Serk, Good job, Alex, he's locked in.

1838
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 3: So guys out of Texas number two tight end on

1839
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 3: on Dane's board. Six hundred and eighty two yards, two touchdowns,

1840
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 3: last year, first team All Big twelve. He needs to

1841
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 3: become more available his routes and improve his reliability as

1842
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 3: a blocker, but smooth operator, dynamic talent before, during, and

1843
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 3: after the cast presents as an f tight end with

1844
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 3: starting upside in the NFL. So we're eleven personnel. I

1845
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 3: don't think we need to draft the tight end. I

1846
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 3: think could we as the replacement for Jordan Akins?

1847
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 4: Yes?

1848
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 3: Does that happen in the second or third round? In

1849
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 3: my opinion, probably not. I just don't see where that's

1850
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 3: we're gonna live in eleven personnel. We are gonna be

1851
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 3: three receivers, one tight end, which is David Njoku, and

1852
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 3: one linebacker are one running back Jordan Akins will be

1853
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 3: that second tight end, and then you know, well they

1854
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 3: try to get somebody in here to compete to be

1855
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 3: the third tight end. I'm sure that could be a

1856
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 3: draft pick or an undrafted free agent to push Zier

1857
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 3: Mitchell Payden, who is Actually they have a pretty good

1858
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 3: trio right now because Mitchell Payin's a big guy and

1859
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 3: a good blocker, He's not necessarily much of a receiver.

1860
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 2: But Akins is a very good receiver.

1861
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 3: So I don't think that's a big need, and I

1862
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 3: certainly don't think that would be an earlyish selection if

1863
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 3: it does happen, not early enough to take you know,

1864
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 3: a second or third round.

1865
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 7: Pick one final one from K B M. Where are

1866
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 7: you three in the hierarchy of luminaries?

1867
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 4: I am not that would be you two.

1868
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm not had not involved at all on the outside

1869
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 2: looking in.

1870
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 3: That's why we call it talk about you have.

1871
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 2: You have medium? You're a medium l luminary. At this

1872
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: point you think, yeah, yeah, you bet email you've been

1873
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 2: on the page, Bobby. What is the most outdated piece

1874
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: of technology you own and actually use? Cable?

1875
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1876
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 2: For you? For me for sure. Um, this one's personal.

1877
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 2: Why has Gibby not asked answer asked any of my

1878
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 2: questions the past two weeks? Is his job performance slipping.

1879
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 2: Remember when he missed a whole thirty minutes of the show,

1880
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 2: Nathan ra make sure you asked this one.

1881
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 4: Oh so much more to come.

1882
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 2: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily and.

1883
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Balley bed

1884
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,320
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1885
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 3: Hey Bobby, Bye, Babby, Sorry about mean evil Gibbey.

1886
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 2: Bobby, A bunch of good ones. You have a good wife.

1887
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 4: Can we do?

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01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 2: We have time for one, Bobby? We do? The ex

1889
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 2: is just it can't be relied upon anymore. I mean

1890
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 2: I don't even have now. Like at the top, they

1891
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 2: keep shoving you back in. All right, here you go. Uh,

1892
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 2: name one movie you think should have a sequel?

1893
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 4: It doesn't.

1894
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 2: What about Bob Commando set up? Why did they not

1895
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 2: do another one? It's a huge shit.

1896
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 3: Celebrity guests in your very own talk show, Larry David,

1897
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,839
Speaker 3: l d Yeah, be tough to beat.

1898
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: Well, you have to. I will say this having seen

1899
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 2: Eyesen interview and and other people interview him like you

1900
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 2: better come ready. Oh he's gonna he's gonna barb with you.

1901
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and sometimes if he's not interested. He's just

1902
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 2: not interested. They'll say it. You know, Letterman gon'ld be

1903
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 2: a fun one for me. He was a big deal

1904
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 2: in my youth.

1905
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 3: What Netflix show did you binge watch embarrassingly quickly? I

1906
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 3: was an embarrassed but I remember the show you I

1907
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 3: watched that one. We watched all the seasons that.

1908
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:23,719
Speaker 2: That's probably my problem with Netflix is if I start

1909
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 2: one of their shows and I like it, I will

1910
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 2: watch the whole damn thing as soon as I can. Yeah,

1911
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 2: Like I just did that with The Gentleman. I watched that,

1912
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 2: like I started, I watched it in like it's only

1913
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 2: six episodes, it's like six straight days, done done. Yeah,

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01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 2: it's good. I think the probably the best Netflix one

1915
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 2: because there was a catalog of it, was probably Peaky Blinders.

1916
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 2: There was a there were a couple of seasons into it,

1917
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 2: and so I blew through those.

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Speaker 3: For us with the Outlander, yeah yeah, just wallowing through.

1919
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 2: All right, have fun, enjoy day two of the draft

1920
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 2: fifty four overall third round as well. Gonna be fun tonight.

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01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 2: Let's hope for the best kid. We'll be back on

1922
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 2: Monday to break it all down. The next level is next.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. To Cleveland Browns Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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