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Speaker 1: all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: All right, hey everybody, Uh, we are ready to rock

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Speaker 1: and roll to Scott Patterson. I am all in podcast,

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Hello, ladies, Hello, Riley, Hello Amy, good morning.

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Speaker 1: How are you this morning? Good morning. I'm more concerned

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Speaker 1: about how you are, Scott. I'm not well. I'm not well.

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Speaker 1: I watched this episode. I watched Cinnamon. That's not funny.

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Speaker 1: It's serious. It's I know, I know it's amusing to you,

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Speaker 1: but this is serious business. All I could think about

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Speaker 1: he is losing his leap right now. This is episode

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Speaker 1: five Cinnamon's Wake, air date November two, two thousand, when

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Speaker 1: both a distant family member and neighbor's cat die Lorelei,

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Speaker 1: has to decide which wake to attend. Max and Lorela

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Speaker 1: But what will Rory think of this? So listen, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna talk about Cinnamon's Wake, which was a

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Speaker 1: delightful affair. It really was. It had many many many

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Speaker 1: great lines. I mean, this was a superstar episode for sure. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It highlighted the skills of so many people, um, a

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Speaker 1: you know, listen, I am nothing if I am not honest,

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Speaker 1: and that's bugging me. He's touching her, He's touching the elbow.

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Speaker 1: all good stuff, and then you know we're having a

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, here's Mcmadina just drops in on a parachute. Boom, Hey,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? The ruins little room? And there

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Speaker 1: But the thing is is he asked her two come,

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Speaker 1: Why are you making it worse? Mom? Why are you

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Speaker 1: She was teaching in Slovakia, in high school in Slovakia.

421
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Speaker 1: So I went to visit her. This is when we

422
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: were falling in love and I was courting her, you know,

423
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: via a long distance, and so I went out there

424
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: and spent a few weeks out there, and several of

425
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: her students just went crazy when I walked in the

426
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: room because they knew me immediately as Maury Dell and Slovakia.

427
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: That was the first time that our TV shows really

428
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: started to reach a mass the world kind of and um.

429
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: And on that same trip, we were in Czech Republic

430
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: in Prague and the TV was on in the other

431
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: roomors staying in this apartment, and Gilmore Girls came on

432
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: and I came on randomly out of all the characters

433
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: that could occur, and I'm speaking check and just weird, weird.

434
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: I've got a million emails over the years of people

435
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: live being in Europe and they did they text me

436
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: or they or they email and say, you're speaking French

437
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: right now, and exactly it's five A. I mean, I

438
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: cannot imagine what it's like for you. And it's a

439
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: specific crowd because they're they're Gilmber Girls fans. Some people

440
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: have never seen gilm More Girls, but the fans have

441
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: seen them three or four or five times, and so

442
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: we're etched in their brains. So you must have you

443
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: must just like wherever you go, it's just nuts. It's hicock. Yeah,

444
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: go ahead, No, I mean they're always you know, they're not.

445
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: They don't go crazy. They they they're very very um

446
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: um gentle and very respectful and they're just really nice

447
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: and they just want to share with you what the

448
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: show has meant to them over the I mean it's

449
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: very very nice, that's true. I think that is we

450
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: we are a part of their family, or they've become

451
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: more girls. Feels like family for them too, just like

452
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: get felt with me when I first arrived. Um. And

453
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: so it's less of uh, it's less of a worship

454
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: and more of like your hey family. So listen, Marie

455
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: del husband to Sally Struthers, Babbett or Babbitt, whatever you

456
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: want to call her. Did you love working with Sally?

457
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: What was that like? Oh? First day? Um? Uh, little

458
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: little hint. I know who Sally Struthers is. Um, very well.

459
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: We're sitting on the set together next to each other

460
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: the first time I'm talk I'm just I haven't even

461
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: officially met her. We're just sitting right next to each other.

462
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: And she goes, huh, it's so hot. And I said, yeah,

463
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: not like the Portland's days. Huh. And she she did

464
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: one little double take and looked at me and said,

465
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: are you and Rooney's son? And uh, she totally got

466
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: it right away. My dad was one of her favorite

467
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: teachers in high school here in Portland, Grant High School. Yeah, yeah,

468
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: and we always had it all in the family picture

469
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: up in his office that was signed by Sally Struthers. Uh.

470
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: So we were very well acquainted with who Sally strut was.

471
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: She was Grants rock star and so to sit next

472
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: to her, I just couldn't I was like, oh Kidney,

473
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: Candy Storey, couldn't wait to you know, let her know.

474
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: And her reaction was priceless. She just one breath your

475
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: ed Rudy said, aren't you like Yeah, And so of

476
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: course we're you know, fast friends after that. Yeah, and

477
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: she comes up to Portland once in a while and

478
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: so she we've had her over for tea and she's, uh,

479
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: she's my son Abes fairy godmother. Yeah, she agreed to

480
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: do that for us. Yeah, she's great. What was the

481
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: best moment you had with her on set? Can? Is

482
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: there one that really sticks out? That? Just? Well, one thing,

483
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: she was always looking out for me, you know, she's

484
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: she does that you know with younger actors, and um,

485
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: they always wanted to me were sunglasses, and I was

486
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: happy to do that. But Sally's like your eyes, your

487
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: blue eyes, they gotta see your blue eyes. Take you

488
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: some glasses off, and she would she would have me

489
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: take them off so that the whoever was in charge

490
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: had to have me put them back on, and uh

491
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: that she was always trying to get me to say,

492
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: he can do you need a few more lines? Could

493
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: you see a few more lines? But but one of

494
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: my favorite moments was with her and Liz. Uh. We

495
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: were out by the out at the the hacienda or

496
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: who are Laura Lie you know runs and the two

497
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: of them we were we just had a few lines

498
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: in the scenes. We're just holding court and yucking it up,

499
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: and it was getting ridiculous because they were laughing their

500
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: heads off and everybody's laughing their heads off, and you

501
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: can see a couple of suits that were kind of nervous,

502
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: like if you gotta be shooting here, but just hilarious.

503
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: Listening to them riff with each other and bounce off

504
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: of the other is priceless. To to get to know

505
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: this person who I you know as a kid. It

506
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: was just this icon. Think had I just surreptitiously recorded

507
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: the Sally Um Liz Torres conversations and routines that they

508
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: did on set. I mean that stuff. Oh yeah, all

509
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: the time shooting a scene. You know, they were riffing

510
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: back and forth. It was it was, it was magic.

511
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: It was just like old school. It's old school storytellers,

512
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: you know, the old the old comedian comedians and actors

513
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: that have all those stories. I could just listen forever.

514
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: So you guys, did you guys have that great chemistry

515
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: from the start? I mean, I mean you told the story,

516
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: so the chemistry was there, but on while you were acting?

517
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: Was that chemistry did that translate over into the acting

518
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: sign because it really well. She she was the leader,

519
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, of the unit and as a person, she

520
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: was the leader of our unit and as our in

521
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: our relationship. You know, where she'd lead, I would father

522
00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: there you go. Um, what do you remember best from

523
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: Cinnamon's Wake? From Cinnamon's Way? Yeah, because the both of

524
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: you look so great in that episode. What what is

525
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: the thing that you remember most about Cinnamons? I clearly

526
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: remember that last moment you're talking about, UM and I

527
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: think it was one of the shows I end up

528
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: watching and UM And what was cool about it was

529
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: one of my favorite artists, Sam Phillips, who wrote a

530
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: lot of the music for and everybody's familiar with that

531
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: for the show, wrote a little piece for that moment.

532
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: And uh, it was at the Christmas party that year

533
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: when uh a t Bone Burnette was married to her

534
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: at the time, and understanding, next teaboard Burnette is about

535
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: my height and you can't miss him, and we're at

536
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: the food and I just kind of started to mention

537
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: that I was a fan of his and a fan

538
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: of hers and and uh, and he said, hey, well

539
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: you should come meet her, and he dragged me over

540
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: to meet Sam Phillips. And Sam Phillips was all like

541
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: excited to see me because she had written this little,

542
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: you know piece for that little scene and and just

543
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: to be a part of Gilmore Girl. She was like

544
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: a thrilled fan herself. And I couldn't believe it because

545
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: I followed her career since I was in high school.

546
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: She definitely one of my favorite singer songwriters of all time.

547
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: And and uh and then she's like, could I meet Lauren?

548
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: And so I brought Sam Phillips over to meet Lauren. Um.

549
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: Just one of those surreal moments where, you know, because

550
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm just a guy from Portland, it just feels weird

551
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: to be running in those in that realm. But to

552
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: have met Sam Phillips and for to have her have

553
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: written a little jingle for our scenes introducing people what's

554
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: happening exactly, so super super cool. Yeah, that was from

555
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: Cinnamon Cinnamon's Wake. It was just a nice, simple, you know,

556
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: just be present and be with each other moment. So

557
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: you know that that happened to me. I mean there

558
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: was several times over the years where you know, the

559
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: massive celebrities, uh would be in video village watching a

560
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: scene and then you'd come out, you know, you'd come

561
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: out from the diner and you go sit in your

562
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: chair and you'd PLoP down and you you'd say hello

563
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: to somebody and then turned back like that's Brian to Palma,

564
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: like what's going I know? And the only thing, the

565
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: only thing I could say to him was because we

566
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: were born on the same day. I said, hey, you

567
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: know we're born the same day. That thing we're trying

568
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: to find that we could say, you know, that's that's

569
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: so funny to be you know, somebody like you is

570
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: is obviously very successful actor has the same experience. But

571
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: then you hear the stars on TV shows talk about

572
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: the same experience there their movie stars there, you know,

573
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: they're just the top of the the heap and they

574
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: meet somebody and just turned Gaga on. They're like that

575
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: scene with the telephone. What you did. I walked into

576
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: a diner one day and there's Norman Mailer sitting there

577
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: through scrapped and you know it's like this Norman Maylor. Right. No,

578
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: it's just like sort of normal average. You know we're

579
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: gonna shoot a scene, No big deal. Yeah, that's just

580
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: what a great experience that is. So the house, Look,

581
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: that house was so tiny. Uh your your house by

582
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: Bettan Mori's house was so small. Did you ever bump

583
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: into things? Did you bump your head? Well? I have

584
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: a lifetime of ducking, so I mean trouble when we

585
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 1: were a baseball cap because I don't see those things coming.

586
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: So I have hit my head many times, but I

587
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: didn't happen to on that set. That was one of

588
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: those things too. It is like they built a house

589
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: for us. This is we're in here one of those

590
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 1: none of the moments. Right next door to the Gilmour girls. Wow, wow,

591
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: can you play the piano? I can? I'm a hack?

592
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: Can you play? Can you still play the Cinnamons Wake

593
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: song that you played in did you were you playing

594
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: that song. No, no, they have me. They had me

595
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: listen to it and you know mine. So now I

596
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: I if I would have been playing that, you could

597
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: have told that I was not a professional jazz musician,

598
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: but I might have been able to bang it out

599
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: a bit. Yeah, let me ask you this, did you

600
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: consider yourself, um a father figure to Rory on any level?

601
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: Where is this question coming from? Um? From the fans? O? No,

602
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: dad really really really intelligence? Now you mentioned it. You know,

603
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a grown man living next door and

604
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: she doesn't have a dad. You know, we did have

605
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: a moment. Oh, we did have a great moment. It's

606
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: in his wake, that's right where she sits down next

607
00:36:54,320 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: to me. That was beautiful, beautiful moment. Yes, and she

608
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: puts her hand on me, and uh and what was

609
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: the final dialogue? Claims and clams. I'll never clams again.

610
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: But she comforts me with something that's right. Neither will

611
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: I and I look at her look on her face

612
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: and a little bit I was very She was great. Yeah,

613
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: Alexis was such for as young as she was. She

614
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: talked about never push, you know, just bring enough and

615
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: bring bring come as you are so real and and

616
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you see a really

617
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: good actor and you're watching from ten feet aware and

618
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, they're really not doing much, you know,

619
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: And then and then we watch them on the camera,

620
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: it's like the whole story is there and it's seamless

621
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: and it's just easy. She made actually new act without

622
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: being terribly trained. Yeah, exactly, Wow, she did, and she

623
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: walked right into a masterclass with all these monster actors,

624
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: you know, she did, and she not only held her own,

625
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: but I mean, I don't think there was a better

626
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: character in all of television the last twenty years or

627
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: now last forty years, forty one year. Um, yeah, so vulnerable,

628
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: so sweet, Yeah, so so easy to root for, you know, totally.

629
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: What's your favorite thing about the following people? Sally Bet

630
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: what's my favorite thing about the following people? Oh, Sally,

631
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: We're bad, bad, which both her spirit, her joy of life,

632
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: her leading with her voice. Rory alexis uh that there

633
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: are two sides of one coin. They're together they make

634
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: one solid, unbelievably perfect woman. Lauren Laura Line Lauren Laura

635
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: la Oh Uh, she's large and in charge. Get out

636
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: of her way, man, She'll take over if you want

637
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: just get out of her way. Um, you know, think

638
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: about the amount of dialogue. Oh my god, she had

639
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: to deal with every like every my freaking you had

640
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: to stay single folks, single focused, and she had to

641
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: do her job. She had a job to do. That.

642
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: That's not just two days a week or three days

643
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: a week. That's five and then going into Saturday, so

644
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: it's really five and a half. Can't I can't even imagine.

645
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: And I hear there was a coach on set you

646
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: could kind of run lines. Yeah, yeah, George, he probably,

647
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean the show. He lifted the show to another

648
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: level of that help. Actors were then free to be

649
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: because they got past that. I teach I teach acting.

650
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: And the thing, especially with comedy like this that's so

651
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: tightly written, is a half the job is just getting

652
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: past the dial forget about the character, for not get

653
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: past that dialogue, so you can be free to be.

654
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: Until you're there, you're in your head and you're hanging

655
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: on and you're you're no man's plan. You don't want

656
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: to be there, George, George, I don't want to be there.

657
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: You don't want to be surviving and hoping. The word

658
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: comes to you. You gotta be bulletproof. I don't want it.

659
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 1: You know, you've got to reel it to control it. Yeah,

660
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: and George Belt provided that. Yeah. Absolutely. Last just last week,

661
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: I had a couple of actors doing a scene from

662
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls, because I love to bring bring those out

663
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: because of the that that's required, you know. And it's like, basically,

664
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: my coaching is tighter, faster, come on, let's go, let's go.

665
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: And then when when they get it there, they start

666
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: to discover things about the kiduse it's so well written.

667
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: You just have to ride that wave. They don't have

668
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: to do that character work as much out of your head.

669
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: You just say it. Yeah, and the character appears miracularly. Um,

670
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: so listen, you know I I have a confession to make.

671
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: I did borrow a few things from the set and

672
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: and took them home for safe keeping. Did you did you?

673
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: Did you steal anything from the set? Let me come on,

674
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: there's about five million people listening right now. So how

675
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: many years do we have before they can track us down?

676
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: They can't track us down anymore. I think I think

677
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: we're free now. Um. I couldn't help it. Um, I

678
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: went into your dinner and uh, we had one of

679
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: the one of the biggest fans out there was in

680
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: our life and I took one of the cups from

681
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: the one that was one that was on camera and

682
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: we Yeah, I had to had to fill up police reports,

683
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: the whole thing they put me into. But you know

684
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: the show was over. It was when the show was

685
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: over the last I'm making a phone call after we

686
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: get over this. Right now, we're gonna solve this caper.

687
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: So look, we've been talking about uh and he's this

688
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: last episode and this one Max Medina. Um, do you

689
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: feel ted that Max was inappropriate with Laureline? I really

690
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: want to know. That's the question at hand. What does

691
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: he get away within this He's he's taking her up,

692
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: He's taken around in this episode, right he shows up

693
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: in Cinnamon's wake to take her out. Uh And and

694
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: Rory doesn't even know about it, and he's cool with

695
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: that and he is so I don't trust him. I

696
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: don't trust him. And I feel like when he walks

697
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: away there, he's being a little manipulative and he's like, Okay, well, okay,

698
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: I guess you know. Um no no, no, no, no,

699
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: please please please, Hey, I really like you, but I

700
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: don't want to force you into anything. And then especially

701
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just a good guy. I'm being a good

702
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: guy here. I'm such a good guy. I happen to

703
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: be your daughter's teacher. I'm gonna blow up my career.

704
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ruin her education. I'm probably get Chilton sued.

705
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: But I really want to, like, you know, you know,

706
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: I want to get you know what's going on here?

707
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: You know what you know, lauralize feeling the romance of

708
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: the potential of true love. I'm not sure he's thinking that,

709
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: you know what. I don't know either. I think he

710
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: was really thinking Laurel I. He probably wouldn't be doing this.

711
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: He's rubbing her arm. Did you see that? He's rubbing

712
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: her arm? He doesn't even sure he's touching her elbow.

713
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: He's rubbing her arms, rubbing, rubbing, rubbing. Man, if I'd

714
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: have seen that, if my character would have seen that,

715
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: it would have been all over all over for that.

716
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: So you and me, right, you know, like you got

717
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: to talk to my buddy. Well, if you don't have

718
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: my knack off for Laurel I, you're gonna have to

719
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: talk to my buddy over here. Mario okay, pal, So

720
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure I'd be that direct because he

721
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: seems pretty much there. I'm go and smash his Mustang mirror,

722
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: the mirror on his Mustang. I would destroy that mirror.

723
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: I don't think I have colonies that you have. I know,

724
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: Luke Wood, oh Luke, which we get really ugly, just

725
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: like bloody you know, he's bloody pulp and it's like

726
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: you has to go to the hospital. And now the

727
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: Gilmo girls takes a serious turn. How nice did your

728
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: hair look? Now? Mussing you? Oh my god. No, but

729
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: we love Scott Cohen where it's just the character. It's

730
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: just the character. I don't trust him. I agree, I

731
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: don't trust him. But he played it beautifully, didn't he

732
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: And he was supposed to play it that way. So

733
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: it's just a beautiful manipulated Yeah, that's what I said

734
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: in the last secment. The guy used the manipulated. He's

735
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: just and he just he's like he's so turned on

736
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: by her that he's like he can't stop touching her.

737
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: Bugs me, it bugs me even now. Oh uh to

738
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: give a ride and that must dang that cool convertible Mustang, Yeah,

739
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: come on, think about it. Come on, that's all a

740
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: part of his show, Trapp. He wanted to get his

741
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: own show, he wanted a spin off show. He fought

742
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: for it. But no, and the and truth wins out. Yeah,

743
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: for I'm cheesing and cheesing ching, we're frying for I'm sorry.

744
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: But by by the end of this season that we

745
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: can't talk about that, right, I talk about anything you want.

746
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: But I don't think they start to get pretty pretty serious.

747
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: I haven't either. I think I did. Yeah, I mean

748
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the episodes, but I know that I

749
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: sort of know a couple of the facts. I mean,

750
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: I was there, so this conversation was ongoing, you know. Yeah,

751
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting to see if you

752
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: grow to trust him a little more with time, you know,

753
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: if your instincts proved maybe wrong. No, that's no, no,

754
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: I will never know. I'm not going to trust the

755
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: manipulator who places his own needs above that of of

756
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: one of the students. Yeah, I mean, come on, come on.

757
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: I also just don't don't think he's thinking of Laurel

758
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: I first, exactly, And he's he's definitely thinking of himself first,

759
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: maybe Laurel I second. But Rory last and Chilton a

760
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: distant fourth. Yeah, you know, we're going to get some

761
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: guys together with crowbars. Were gotta we're gotta fix this situation.

762
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: We'll mess up that car. I got the mirror, I

763
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: got the rear view mirror covered. I don't know. I think,

764
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: to me, that's a nice cars. And then we show

765
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: up in the and say, you know, and we pull

766
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: up to the dragon Fly, you and me like you're

767
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: in the back seat. I'm driving, or maybe you're driving.

768
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm in the back seat. We pull up to the

769
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: dragon Fly, I'm the driver. Yeah, And and and we say,

770
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: I got the Tommy gun. Hey, hey, how you doing?

771
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: You do you want to come out on the race

772
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: track a couple of days you color style? Yeah? Anyway,

773
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you that it all worked out

774
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: in the end. I'm so happy for you. You know,

775
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: groveling works anyway. So we're gonna do a segment called

776
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: Rapid from the Boy are they are you have points?

777
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: Is the score? Can I win something? Can I win

778
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: some Scotty coffee? Sure, I'll send I'll send you up. Okay,

779
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: but I got to do well? Right? Oh? Boy? Is

780
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: it faster the better that's what. How do you like

781
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: a coffee? Uh? Practically muddy? Can you smell snow? Yes?

782
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: S n O. W Are you team Logan, team jess

783
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: A Team Dean? Uh? Team Dean because he's on super

784
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: Super Supernatural and he's so awesome. It shows over he's

785
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: on a new show. Well, who's the daddy? Who's who's

786
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: the daddy? Ry's baby daddy? Oh oh oh, that's it.

787
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: Creeps me out, that whole thing. I'm sorry, that just

788
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm not happy with that whole scenario. I am not.

789
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: I don't even want to comment. I don't approve. Okay,

790
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: that's the prude in me. I'm sending you coffee. Yeah,

791
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 1: creeps me. I can't believe it. I was I've never

792
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: won anything uffy well gold gold. What's the best memory

793
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: of Gilmore Girls? Best memory of Gilmore Girls? Uh? Oh

794
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I just just meeting Sally Struggle and having

795
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: my dad, who was her favorite teacher on the set,

796
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: hanging out with her and we got pictures together. What

797
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: a happy That's great, What a nice moment. Wow, full circle,

798
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: that's that's great. Favorite Friday night dinner meal Friday night.

799
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: Oh like the Gilmore Girls in state because you know,

800
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: I don't know you were you you were never at

801
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: a well I should say, okay, so let me see

802
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: my wife's a mushroom pasta. But actually Friday night disorder

803
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: outnight so dues dues Karaaki the local Yeah, gut bomb ye,

804
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: I love it. What's the show you're binge watching right now? Uh?

805
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: Cramp Um Martin Freeman. Uh, parenting about parenting? Uh, Breeders

806
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: and cast. Remember you texted most recently? Uh? Sally Yeah, Sally, Yeah.

807
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: We've gone back and forth through the years, Ted, Ted,

808
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: this has been Uh, this has been a lot of fun.

809
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: I gotta why do they want to interview me? I

810
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: don't have anything to say. Well, I think I think

811
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's obvious why we wanted to interview. You're

812
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: a great interview for sure. Cry. I've never interviewed. I

813
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: was so nervous because you get interviewed all the time.

814
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: I've never I mean rarely, rarely. The most I was

815
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: interviewed was when we went to this um thing on

816
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: the East Coast for Gilmore Girls about five years ago.

817
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: The big Um, one of these big casts. You know,

818
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: everybody fly over there and hang out in the town,

819
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: and it was based this, The show is based on

820
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: and and And they gave me a microphone, and you know,

821
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: because I'm so quiet on the set and people have

822
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: never really got to know me. Uh, that was their

823
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: first mistake. All the cast members are up there on

824
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: the stage and I'm answering half the questions and I'm

825
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: just like you. Nobody else is gonna say. I'm gonna

826
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: say I got I got something to say. But I

827
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: was having fun. But you could see the casts like,

828
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: who is who was he on the show? Is he

829
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: talking so much? But that was fun, But I just

830
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: have I'm so intimidated. But a man talking so much?

831
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: Why what's going on here? The men have to be quiet?

832
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, what's that? Why is why is the actor talking?

833
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: That's what I'm always told. I said, I tell myself,

834
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: don't talk. Don't talk because I'm against our actor. You

835
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: can't You're not supposed to like, just why is the

836
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: actor talking? We were basically just the pets. We were

837
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: the pets, were the set pets. We're so lucky to

838
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: be there, so so lucky to be a part of

839
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: that show. Said Pat, Yeah, buddy, we got We're gonna

840
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: reach out to you, get your mailing a dress. I'm

841
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: gonna send you some coffee, okay, because you're such as,

842
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: what's your coffee? Like, uh, it's Grade one specialty coffee.

843
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. So is there like an espresso or regular

844
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: or is there just the standard like Luke's Diner coffee.

845
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: We have some whole bean and we have mostly just ground. Yeah,

846
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: we have cups. Okay, great? What does that mean? Grade wood,

847
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: Grade one specialty coffee means it's the best of the best.

848
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: Do you get that stamp? What do you gotta do

849
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: to get that stamp? You got? Oh? Yeah, I get it. Okay,

850
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: you know, it's a whole thing. It's a whole it's

851
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: a whole another conversation, but it's it's it's very complex

852
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: and it's expressive. Yeah. So but my coffee is not expensive,

853
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: so it's awesome. You're really gonna send me something. What

854
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: kind do you want? Yeah, there's different kinds. There's we have.

855
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, we have a hundred different Do you want stuff?

856
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: What do you want to express? The dark stuff? The

857
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: dark stuff? You want dark roast? You want to dark thick?

858
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: Like I said, you know, like, okay, I send you

859
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: a I'll send you a house, Blend, send you a

860
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: breakfast Blend, send you a French roast, you know, French roast.

861
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: That'll do it. So yeah, if you send me a couple,

862
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: I'll get to use a couple, but I want to

863
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: save one and put it on my shelf. So yeah,

864
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: so good good, alright, alright, great talking to you, Ted,

865
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: and uh best everyone back there, and well you know what,

866
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: I have a feeling, uh, you're going to be back

867
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: on pretty soon. Yeah, yeah, if you want to. Yeah,

868
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: I want to reoccurringly, potentially reoccurring. Oh my god, that's

869
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: music to my years. No, um um okay, I uh yeah,

870
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, please please please. This has been

871
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: one of the most surreal experiences of my life. I'm

872
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: in my son's bedroom, you know, with a little notes

873
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: stuck over this screen about Gilmore Girls to try and

874
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: remember to say something, and talking to Scott Patterson. I'm like,

875
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on here? Is so surreal

876
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: and you're laughing at my jokes too. It's like he

877
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: looked like my brother when you're laughing like my brother. Yeah, alright, alright,

878
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: we gotta thank you, we gotta go. Thank you so

879
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: much for your time. Ted All the best. Stay safe,

880
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: all right, we'll talk so all right, buddy, what a doll.

881
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's the sweetest ever. Oh my god,

882
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: what a nice guy. Wow. And he really jumped on

883
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: board your manipulation. Oh it did. He wasn't even prompting,

884
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: he didn't even hear us say it. And then he

885
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: said it. I still love Max. I love Max. She's

886
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: getting destroyed. Alright, gang, that was that was too much fun.

887
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: We gotta recover here. You could take a little break.

888
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with the podcast after these messages. Yet, everybody,

889
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: we're back. I'm Scott Patterson. I am all in podcast.

890
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: That was none other than Ted Rooney, all six ft

891
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: six of him from tall tall, A tall drink of water?

892
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: Is he? And uh, what a great guest. Oh my goodness.

893
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: He was hilarious. What a sweet man, right, I mean,

894
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 1: what a complete doll. Exactly how you'd think more would

895
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:50,479
Speaker 1: be perfect. More is so sweet. And that's Ted man

896
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: speaking of not so sweet. You really kind of a

897
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: feuding with Suki in this episode. You've guys got some tension.

898
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: There's well, you know, we're we're two master chefs, if

899
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: you will, you know, vying for the same turf he

900
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: screened her at the counter. That kind of shoved each other,

901
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: although I did think it was gentlemanly of you that

902
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: you let her go in aheash at the week a

903
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: little there was a little we got. We we tried

904
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: to go into the door with Mori and Babette's house

905
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: door with small doorway the same time we got stuck.

906
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: It was a funny bit. Nobody didn't push anybody. She

907
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: didn't push me. Chevy shove shove shoving, nobody shoving, no one, Lady.

908
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't shove her. She wouldn't shove me. I just

909
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: tried to get ahead of her. That's why I said,

910
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: you know what you got in there, Luca, I'm just bricks.

911
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: And I tried to rump the stairs by her. I

912
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: wasn't shoving, I was. I was going trying to. I

913
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: was attempting to pass her to get into Squish Squish

914
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: the full player for how where everything should go? And

915
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: you're just like, how had it? The brilliance of that

916
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: scene stuck in the door where it was a camera

917
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: angle wasn't anything we did. We were the camera angle

918
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: was looking up at us, and it made it that

919
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: much funnier um, and it made the door seemed that

920
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: much smaller it was. I laughed out loud on that

921
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: that that that was fun to watch. And then she

922
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: made a little she made a little move. She faked

923
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: me out when in first and I just stood there.

924
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: I thought you were gentlemanly about it, like ladies first,

925
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Okay, we were going to talk

926
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: about Rory and Dean and Max and lor La. And

927
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: did you notice that Dean on the bus said goodbye

928
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: lor Lye Gilmore and Max said the same line parallel,

929
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: both manipulators, both um trying to guilt them into a date.

930
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: You know, probably Dean is Max Medine is illigion him

931
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: a kid from another mother from seventeen years ago, you

932
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, from another state where he pulled

933
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: the same garbage and got fired, had to leave the state.

934
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be like in the part two of

935
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: the Revival Servers one. You know, boys that are a

936
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: little bit shy, dipping their toe in the water, but

937
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: trying to work their game. But I said, listen, I

938
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: think Dean was genuinely put off. I think he genuinely

939
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: sort of laid down his sword and said Wow, I

940
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: don't really want I don't want to bother you, you know,

941
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: because she really she did was not terribly friendly to

942
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: him on the bus. I mean she was kind of uh,

943
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean she was so overwhelmed by it, you know

944
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: that she reacted in a way that could be interpreted

945
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: by a sensitive young boy, as Dean was as being like,

946
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm not interesting it away from me, you know, they

947
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: the bus, I know you, we're just going all the

948
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: way to Hartford. You gotta get off. Bus driver, stop

949
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: the bus. You know. She's just shy and awkward, shine awkward.

950
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: That's all right. I don't know how to handle it

951
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: from that, another tall drink of water. The legitimate son

952
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: of Max Medina that we're gonna find out, we're gonna

953
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: find we're gonna peel that layer back and we're gonna

954
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: be shocked. It's gonna be shocking. Um. But no, I

955
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: think he I think he was being very earnest, uh.

956
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think he was being manipulative. It was

957
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: it was just something in his DNA from his father,

958
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: Max Medina. But but I think Max was I think

959
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: he was being manipulative. Well, it was shocking to me

960
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: that Ted a k a MORI used the word manipulative

961
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: and he did not hear us before. He didn't, So

962
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: that was that's two dudes. Now that thought Max was manipulated,

963
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: where I think he's charming and just has a lot

964
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: of times I would be dude one. I'm dude one

965
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: and you're dude One's actually he's dude one. I'm dude too.

966
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: Um yeah, no, that's that's I just think Max really

967
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: likes lore Lie and is going for it. He's very bold.

968
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: He is super bold because he literally said I think

969
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: we should date. It was like, not like I think

970
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: we should hang out or go on a date, it

971
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: was I think we should date. And I was like, WHOA,

972
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: how much do you have to think of yourself? I

973
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: mean you must think that you're pretty hot stuff to

974
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: disregard your career, your code of unwritten code of ethics,

975
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: your students future, uh, and the relation. But I mean

976
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: that could fracture the relationship between mother daughter. He didn't care.

977
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: He just wanted to rub, rub, rub thumb and then

978
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: he wanted to rub other things and rubb and that's

979
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: all he was thinking about. Okay, totally unfit to be

980
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: in an authority figure. You know what I mean, he was.

981
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: It was totally unfit. The only part I did think

982
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: was a little weird was when, because I love Max,

983
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm all Max from Team Max right now, was when

984
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: he said I know how to be discreet. That that

985
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: gave me a little bit of a But it's like

986
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: that that's a sign of a professional who's done it

987
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: many times. That's a serial violator of ethics. That was

988
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 1: a hint, creepy. I'm hoping he'll come back strong from that,

989
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: which she does, I don't know, I'll say, am I

990
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: gonna be triggered further by this character? Oh God, poor Cinnamon.

991
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: We haven't even talked about poor Cinnamon. Yeah. Well that

992
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: was probably the funniest scene. You know, Sally Struthers is

993
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: a comedy genius. She knows how to take a funny

994
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: line and make it just laugh out loud funny. And

995
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: I knew it, darling when he fell off the couch

996
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: and shut across the wax floor and ran into the lightning.

997
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: He didn't move after that, you know, I mean, it's like, really,

998
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: how funny is that woman? How she's not? I'm gonna

999
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: keep saying this until people tell me to shut up.

1000
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: That woman deserved Supporting Actress nominations up and down the

1001
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: wazoo on all the big awards, and she never received one.

1002
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: It's crazy, crazy, crazy, And Rory says, our town is weird,

1003
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,959
Speaker 1: and thank god, thank god, right, thank god, Oh my god.

1004
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: We didn't even talk about in the very beginning opening

1005
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: scene the dinner, the Friday night dinner without Richard because

1006
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: he's in Germany. That banter that was hilarious and your

1007
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: cousin and I don't know this cousin. And but it's

1008
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: like it's like the contempt between and that's the nuclear fuel, right,

1009
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: The contempt between mother and daughter is so palpable. I mean,

1010
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: those two just hate each other. I mean, she hates

1011
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: her own mother, such a purple passion. So good though,

1012
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: and then yeah, and then the call at the end

1013
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: of the episode. But I mean no, but but at

1014
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: the end of that dinner scene, you know, Rory laughs

1015
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: at Emily. Yeah, yes, and it's like Emily wins again.

1016
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: Emily wins again, and Rory was the one saying, don't

1017
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: tell her you went to Cinnamons. You're gonna hurt her feelings.

1018
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: Rory's always sort of trying to play both sides because

1019
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: she loves them both. It's Laura rubbing off on Emily

1020
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: with her humor and her jokes. No, that's where Laura

1021
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: I got it exactly, That's where she got it from.

1022
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: So she took that sort of you know, that very sophisticated,

1023
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: very educated, sort of big city mentality and put it

1024
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: into Stars Hollow and this is what you get. You

1025
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: get people running around their own daughters backs, trying to

1026
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: mac with the with the Max Medina, that's what you get.

1027
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: And you get those any conversations at dinner which are

1028
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: just like, huh, I mean she you know, didn't mock

1029
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: Suki because she didn't know what metaphorically meant right when

1030
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: she was at the diner, right, so like showing the

1031
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: level here and uh, but they're still great friends. Still

1032
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: loves it, the whole thing. But and then she has

1033
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, you know, she becomes the Suki in the

1034
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: in the dinner scene where the mother is like talking

1035
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: right over her head. She doesn't get it. So I'm

1036
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: Riley and here's our pop culture references. Rory's at the

1037
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: bake sale at Chilton and she asks for home home

1038
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: goods and Roy says it by someone other than Dolly Madison.

1039
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: Dolly Madison was a you know, a commercial chef, right,

1040
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: it's some kind of Dolly Madison products and cakes and correct,

1041
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: they definitely eat those. At the Gilmore Household, Laura Lai

1042
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: talks to Lane and says, where does your mom think

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01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: you are? And Lane says on a park bench contemplating

1044
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: the reunification of the two care years. There you go

1045
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: North and South Korea. Yeah, you know, I can't really

1046
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: get into politics here, but let's not touch that. And

1047
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: Laura says, not here. Skanking to Rancid, Rand said the

1048
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: band Ransid the band? Is that a death metal their

1049
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: death metal? Yeah, punk rock band, Max says, very Henry

1050
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: the Eighth Laura's Laurel I says, we're not into subtle.

1051
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: I need to research Henry that he history lesson on

1052
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: that Luton not a subtle person, overweight, overeater. I have it.

1053
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: But it was also Shakespeare play and in the blay

1054
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: a cannon shot employed for special effects and ignited the

1055
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: whole theater. Oh so, not not here for subtle the

1056
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: Globe theater. It's get about the Globe theater. WHOA. Rory's

1057
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: talking to Lane and she says Philadelphia, and Lane says,

1058
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: and night Shamala lives there. Wait a minute, that's my hometown.

1059
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: Were they just in my hometown for no? Did you

1060
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: know a night Shamlon is from your hometown. So there

1061
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people from my hometown, A lot of people,

1062
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: a lot of great people. I also think that reference works.

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01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: It was an attitude. It's like, of all the cities

1064
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: in the world you want to live, you choose Philadelphia,

1065
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: like see, it's an attitude on the northeast really because

1066
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: they consider Philadelphia to be you know, it's a thing.

1067
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: You know this right, it's a thing. Laurel I says,

1068
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: life is a funny thing, huh, and Suki says, yeah,

1069
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: I love that. Jim Carey, Oh yeah, the painter works.

1070
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: The painter. He's a painter. Yes, Jim Carey is a painter. Painter,

1071
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: also dumb and dumber and also one of the funniest

1072
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: uh the Awards Show appearances ever when he dressed up

1073
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: like the cool the Rocker stoned out rocker and he

1074
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: gets up there to accept an award and get yeah,

1075
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: Suki says, oh, very serious face. Sean Paul Sarte, father

1076
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: of existentialism, whoa no idea. Correct, Wow, you didn't know

1077
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: Sartra all that stuff? All right? Luke says, you don't

1078
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: do yoga on the DOLLI Lama's matt. I got that.

1079
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: You don't step on Superman's cape. That's another good one.

1080
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: It's a little Jim crow chy for you. Yeah, you

1081
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: don't know who that I do? Are you kidding? Jim

1082
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: crow chy Um Loreal I says information that would have

1083
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: come out eventually, like the Iran Contra scandal. And then

1084
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: they mentioned Oliver North. Correct, did you get that, youngster?

1085
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: I did not. Yeah, you're not gonna know. That's when

1086
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: Reagan was trying to raise money for or fighting communists

1087
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: in Nicaragua, and the Congress wouldn't prove fine. I don't

1088
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: want to think about what they're not teaching you kids,

1089
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: and go around and do they did some things? They

1090
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: did things. Girls is really exposing my lack of history

1091
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: knowledge that it's a weakness. I found. You gotta be

1092
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 1: smart to watch Gilmore Girls, because if you're gonna get

1093
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: all these references, you got to know a lot of stuff.

1094
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: And all the movies and the cartoons, just not the history.

1095
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: There's two more. Keep going, Loya I says, you can't

1096
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: always control who you're attracted to. You know. I think

1097
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: the whole Angelina Julie Bob Thornton thing really proves that.

1098
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: The love that line because even though now we think

1099
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: about Angelina Julie with Pitt, the Billy Bob Thornton era

1100
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: was pretty uh amazing and they were wearing their blood

1101
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: around each other's necks. I think, like, you know, when

1102
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: I when she was young, and when she first came out,

1103
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: I you know, I think everybody had a big crush

1104
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: on her. Um I actually wrote two screenplays for her. Yeah,

1105
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: I tried to get him through to her people, and

1106
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: I knew I knew her manager, and I tried to

1107
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: slip him a script. But when she the Billy Bob

1108
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: thing happened, I didn't understand it at the time. But then,

1109
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: um I met him socially and he's he's actually a

1110
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: pretty cool dude guy. He's a really nice guy. Yeah,

1111
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: he's an interesting, smart, talented, cool So there's a lot,

1112
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: you know. You know, he's a very good writer, he's

1113
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: a very good actor, he's a very good musician. You know,

1114
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: he's a multi life in it. So there's yeah, you know,

1115
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: and she you know she's an l A girl, right,

1116
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: she grew up. She grew up in l A. And

1117
01:09:55,320 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: that's their free spirited, freewheeling types of gals. Man. Yeah,

1118
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: blood wearing, the necklaces, the trends, everything comes from California, right, Okay,

1119
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: the last one I have, Laura I mentioned she wants

1120
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: to be part of the Bengals, which I had no idea.

1121
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: Who that was Manic Monday? What walk like an Egyptian?

1122
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: I do know that one I didn't know was the

1123
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: bank good? And what was interesting is when you made

1124
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: the show they were broken up. They have since gotten

1125
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: back together. Yes, Susannah Hoffs was the lead singer and

1126
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: they had broken up, but they are back together. I mean,

1127
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're like touring right now, but yeah,

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01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: they definitely united and went on tour. Yeah, there's there

1129
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: are opportunities for touring for all those like seventies and

1130
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: eighties bands and they're still they can still do it. Yeah, Riley,

1131
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: you need to get on your iTunes and listen to

1132
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: Manic Monday. That's my homework on it. My favorite line

1133
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: was from Emily when she's on the phone Laura line.

1134
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: She says, I'm looking up aneurysm in our medical dictionary

1135
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: to see if I just had one. The counter is

1136
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: a sacred space, my sacred space. Oh that's my line

1137
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: the cut. Um. You know I had a couple. Uh,

1138
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, I can't. I can't get over Michelle. I

1139
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: just love I just love him when he when he

1140
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,560
Speaker 1: turns here and says kill me, kill me now, like

1141
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: I love that guy. Um. And then uh, I think,

1142
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: really that that competes with there's so many good lines. Jesus,

1143
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: oh we forgot let us and a mouse trap let

1144
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: us and then no, but I think Emily at the

1145
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: end when she says, oh, what you're going to a

1146
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: raccoon's wedding next or something, it's like, you know, you

1147
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: know Emily was going to deliver the goods, you know it.

1148
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 1: So so it's the tie long shall we remember cinnamon?

1149
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: But you know, look, the up shot here is for me, right,

1150
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: because since I'm experiencing this for the first time, the

1151
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: upshot for me is, you know, we're talking a lot

1152
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: about this what I consider to be a smarmi uh,

1153
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: private school teacher who's acting in inappropriate and unethical ways.

1154
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: But the thing that we're not mentioning is um and

1155
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: we have we've we've alluded to it a little bit.

1156
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: But but how sweet these this mother daughter is too

1157
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: take time away from studying for warry and take time

1158
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: away from her job at the Dragonfly to come over

1159
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: and comfort babette, throw a party and he comes to good,

1160
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: throws her a party maker feel good. They're worried about her.

1161
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's a big deal. The mother doesn't understand.

1162
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: That's exactly what Laurela needed to get away from so

1163
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: that she could live a real life and really love

1164
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: people and know what real community was, and know what

1165
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: real love outside of the country club was and outside

1166
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: of you know, a status driven life and out of

1167
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: all of that stuff that makes people incredibly nasty, um

1168
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: and not inclusive. So she wanted to be in a

1169
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 1: place that was real. And yeah, she might you know,

1170
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: have brought with her the d n A and some

1171
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: of the condescension and the the quippy, quippy equippy lines

1172
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: and the you know, looking down her nose at certain people.

1173
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: But I think she genuinely loves being there, and she

1174
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: loves the people, and that's how she wants to raise

1175
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: her daughter. That's why I think Sinnamon's wake was so

1176
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: it was so powerful for me because look at this,

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01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: everybody wants to live in a town like that. A

1178
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: lot of people do live in towns like that. Where

1179
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: is there somebody's cat dies and it's like it's an

1180
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: event and you want to go comfort that person. And

1181
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: what a beautiful testament to um those characters that they

1182
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: took the time to be there for each other, whether

1183
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: there's little conflicts here and there. I think the Maxi

1184
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: mcdina thing is like, that's an outlier. That is just

1185
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: like that's Darth Vader coming in and into a little

1186
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: a little nice little village and he's gonna blow it off.

1187
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: It's like, you gotta defend, you gotta defend the good,

1188
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: the good versus the evil. But um, you know, very

1189
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: very charming episode, I mean, very very touching, and I think,

1190
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: uh for me acting wise, uh, Sally Struthers stole the show.

1191
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: She moved me so deeply that you could really feel

1192
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: the loss and her trying to overcome it and giving

1193
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: that that motherly advice to Laurel I too. You know,

1194
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: you know, don't you know, maybe Darth Vader isn't such

1195
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: a bad idea, you know, dating. I apologize to George Lucas. Um,

1196
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: but anyway, yeah, that's the takeaway from me. Also, um,

1197
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: you know just how sweet Rory is godo. I mean,

1198
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: just just such a vulnerable, sweet yet you know kind

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01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: of she's you know, she's got she's a little bit

1200
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: tough underneath, you know, don't mess with her. And now

1201
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: we are going to get to see everything happened. But

1202
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: she's not gonna lose who she is at her core,

1203
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: which is this sweet, trusting girl. Um, in order you know,

1204
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: to get to get through life. She's gonna she's maybe

1205
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: the one that's going to stick to her her real

1206
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: small town core values because she doesn't have She's got

1207
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: the the the Emily DNA obviously right, Uh and she

1208
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: has that, but it's not it hasn't corrupted her. Um

1209
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 1: and and it probably won't. But very sweet character. I

1210
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: just I just I really think that that Rory Gilmore

1211
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: is the heart of this show. I don't think it's

1212
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: the relationshipship between Lauren and Kelly. I think it's it's

1213
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: really just about it's about Rory and her relationship with

1214
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: her mother and she's got to deflect all this crazy

1215
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: stuff happening in her life because these people are so

1216
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 1: toxic and they're so narcissistic, and sometimes they can be

1217
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: really selfish. On the other hand, because they're human, they

1218
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: can be you know, they have their flaws, but they're

1219
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: also you know, doing that. Everybody's doing the best they

1220
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: can and they're making some mistakes and that's life. So anyway,

1221
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really hooked on the show. I really love

1222
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: this show. I really do. It's it's it's it's toying

1223
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: with my emotion. It's really putting me on a roller coaster.

1224
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: So buckle up because I think next week is Rory's

1225
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: birthday party, and I feel like, whoa, something's big. Yeah,

1226
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait. It's just such a

1227
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: it's such a wow. I mean I almost I was,

1228
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, it was midnight. I wanted had to go

1229
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 1: to bed. I wanted to watch it again. I have

1230
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: to force myself to not watch Me Too, Me too, Listen.

1231
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: I I released a single. You can get it on

1232
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: all the major platforms, Apple, iTunes, Spotify, what have You're

1233
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: called Surrender? We released it last weeks to go check

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01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: it out. It's a love song about the on the

1235
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: got Away. Anyway, that's a rap. Episode five Cinnamon's Wake.

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01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: Love this episode, can't wait to see the next one. Uh,

1237
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: Ted Rooney was great. Uh great seeing you guys, and

1238
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: uh just we'll see you next week. Thanks for tuning in,

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01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at

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