WEBVTT - "I JUST GOT A VASECTOMY"

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<v Speaker 2>All from West.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, what's your name, Wes Wesh? What's going on with you? Wes?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm I'm laying on the couch, uh, recovering some surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, what kind of surgery?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get oh I had a vsectam.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a vasectom yep? And how is how are

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<v Speaker 1>how are your balls? The vasectomy is in the balls?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Yeah? Yeah. What they do is they just snip, snip,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you have no swimmers.

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<v Speaker 1>So how long How long does the surgery take?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's more of a procedure. It's like ten,

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<v Speaker 3>ten to fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know, look percee. Okay, so it's a procedure.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds surgical. They're going, they're cutting open your ball

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like they take a This is how this

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<v Speaker 1>is in my mind. Whatever sect to me is they

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<v Speaker 1>cut your balls open and they take like a hose

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<v Speaker 1>and they basically do liposuction on your balls. But for come,

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<v Speaker 1>how how medically accurate is that? On a scale from

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<v Speaker 1>one to ten?

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<v Speaker 3>That's probably like, you know, you had everything except the

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<v Speaker 3>going in part, like you know, like accurate, but then

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<v Speaker 3>once you're inside it is all wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so they do they do make an incision on

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<v Speaker 1>your ball. I mean I assume you were asleep for this,

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<v Speaker 1>unless if you were like no, no, keep me awake.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know. No, you're not You're you're awake.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're awake.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yep. You're sitting there with your legs open while

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<v Speaker 3>urologist does this to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Really so they make an ensue where do they make

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<v Speaker 1>the incision?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like right down the middle, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Down the middle of your but like of your taints

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<v Speaker 1>or of your.

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<v Speaker 3>Balls, of your balls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you were awake when somebody sliced your balls open?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>How was that sounds really painful? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean you have you're you're you're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there and then they like pull the tube that

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<v Speaker 3>connects your your ball, you know, the the the vast

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<v Speaker 3>difference of the sperm duct, I guess, and like they

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<v Speaker 3>pulled that out through the hole and then cut it,

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<v Speaker 3>cauterize each end, put that one back, and then do

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<v Speaker 3>the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and it only took like ten minutes. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was it simple enough that after watching them do it

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<v Speaker 1>on you, you felt like, you know, you could do

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<v Speaker 1>it successfully on somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean no, because it's like I feel comfortable that

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<v Speaker 3>I did my own research. But I think, yeah, based

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<v Speaker 3>off of that, I just felt, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 3>did a lot of research myself, so that made me

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<v Speaker 3>more comfortable with the procedure, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Now with you being awake, you know, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>like a kid, I mean even now, like when I

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<v Speaker 1>get a shot or like when they prick my finger

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<v Speaker 1>or something, I don't like to look. I look away.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you look did you watch them cut your balls open?

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<v Speaker 1>Or did you look away? Like did they have like

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<v Speaker 1>a TV or something?

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<v Speaker 3>So, you know, like the exam table in the doctor's

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<v Speaker 3>office was like the great the you know whatever the

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<v Speaker 3>paper on it, mm hmm. That's basically what you're you're

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<v Speaker 3>sitting on. So you just lay back and look at

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<v Speaker 3>the ceiling or whatever while this is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>What were you thinking about? Like do you remember the

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<v Speaker 1>actual thoughts going on in your head while this was happening?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I do. Oh god, oh god, ow whoa wait,

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<v Speaker 3>at what point?

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<v Speaker 1>At what point in the procedure did you go whoa?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was when they injected the numbing agent

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<v Speaker 3>into that tube and it like activated that whole fainting response.

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<v Speaker 3>It like shot right up my back and I like

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<v Speaker 3>started a saint.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so it like it kind of it shook

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit and that made you let out

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<v Speaker 1>the glass okay exactly, And did you thank the doctor afterwards?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think I think he just knew because

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<v Speaker 3>the guy was like eighty five, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's he's probably way more of an expert

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<v Speaker 3>than I would ever. I know, they didn't answer your question,

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<v Speaker 3>but that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of answered that sort of answered my question. Do

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<v Speaker 1>they numb the area before they cut your balls open?

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<v Speaker 1>Or they just go for it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, it gets numbed. M hmm, Sophie. It's supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be a painless procedure, but it's not not for

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<v Speaker 3>some people, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And when did this happen? When was this all taking place?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, a couple of days ago. Actually, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>How are your balls feeling now?

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<v Speaker 3>Like they need eternal rest?

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<v Speaker 1>Really? So it's still pretty pretty fucked up down there?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, it's not like fucked up, fucked up,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's just like sore, you know. It feels like

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<v Speaker 3>you're recovering from a really bad kick in the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's I want to talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff around the procedure. What made you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>a sect to me?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Well, we had welcomed our second kid, uh into

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<v Speaker 3>the wild two days after my birthday mm hmm. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we kind of just knew, like we were not going

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<v Speaker 3>to have any more kids because it's a lot for

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when they're close together. Our kids are close together.

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<v Speaker 3>But beside the point, it was the least invasive overall

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<v Speaker 3>form of permanent birth control.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm. Okay, Okay, now does it. I'm still I still

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<v Speaker 1>have medical questions for you. I always thought and I

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<v Speaker 1>never like this was when I was I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like in high school whatever. I always thought that

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<v Speaker 1>of vasectomy, like like when you come, like nothing comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>and as an adult, I never confirmed or denied that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you you can still come.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, yeah, because that's not it's just like

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<v Speaker 3>you're the only thing you're doing is you're cutting off

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<v Speaker 3>one of the ingredients to the cocktail. Okay, but so

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<v Speaker 3>nothing changes, nothing at all except that you're sterile.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And you know what, look by the way I

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<v Speaker 1>think this, this sounds like it was a well thought

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<v Speaker 1>out decision because you had two already, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>and no offense to anyone who has more than two kids,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't I don't know what would be added

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<v Speaker 1>to your life by having more than two kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess one of the positives is that

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<v Speaker 3>they could all raise each other, right, so you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to really do much. But that wasn't our modus operandi.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a baby raising a baby would both

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<v Speaker 1>of the babies would die immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, but that's why you need like fourteen kids back

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<v Speaker 3>to back, so like as you're mom and them out,

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<v Speaker 3>they're all cared for by the oldest, you know, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, Okay, you're actually I kind of like where you're

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<v Speaker 1>going at with this, because you're right. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think two babies would just die immediately, but fourteen babies

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<v Speaker 1>put them all in like a pin, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>rug rats. They'd figure something, they'd kind of figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably, Yeah, I mean, I you know, who knows that

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<v Speaker 3>would be Stanford material.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think this conversation is making it to Stanford.

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<v Speaker 1>But what Okay, So, so you how is things going

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<v Speaker 1>with the two kids? How old are the two kids

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<v Speaker 1>that you have now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one of them are oldest, she is a year well,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, so year and six buckers year and a half,

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<v Speaker 3>a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Over a year and a half, year and a half, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the youngest was born this past January.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, month old. So they're only they only have like

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<v Speaker 1>a year age gap pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, sixteen months.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixteen months, okay, that's that's a year when they when

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<v Speaker 1>when they are both like when they're like thirteen and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to be saying sixteen months, they'll be like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a year. Although, wait a minute, so that means

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<v Speaker 1>that there's gonna be a wait a minute, that means

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<v Speaker 1>that there's gonna be a four months.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to know something crazy about this? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you want to look crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So our oldest was born in September, and my

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<v Speaker 3>sister was born in September, and then our youngest was

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<v Speaker 3>born in January and I was born in January. So

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<v Speaker 3>our kids are the exact same d like within a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of days, one or two days off of the

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<v Speaker 3>exact same birthdays that my parents had, which is not

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<v Speaker 3>like something that we planned at all. It just happened

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<v Speaker 3>this way.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be kind of weird if you did plan it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, yeah, but I mean I don't even know

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<v Speaker 3>what you'd have to plan to plan that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you'd can see Eve nine months before your

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<v Speaker 1>mom's birthday, but that would I was just saying it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be strange if you were having sex with your wife

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking about this is great because now we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a child on my mom's birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>See. No, that never Yeah, that never happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You have two children, they're both alive. There, they're only

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that they're only one year older, Thanny,

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<v Speaker 1>that means that are they are they? You said, are

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<v Speaker 1>they both? Are they both boys? There's a boy and

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<v Speaker 1>a girl.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a boy and a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So they're both gonna like be in like school together,

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<v Speaker 1>and I assume I assume they'll be in the same

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<v Speaker 1>like grade or like one's a grade above or the

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<v Speaker 1>grade below.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, probably a grade or two part.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So they'll be in each other's lives sort of

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<v Speaker 1>in in in the the social universe of school.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good I think it's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's good like when you go to my

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<v Speaker 1>sister is Wait, when I was a freshman in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>she was a we actually went to different high schools,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was a senior when I was a freshman.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know it's it's I think it's probably a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing to have, like an older sibling looking out

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<v Speaker 1>for you, you know, when you're in school.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, what do you do? What do you do

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<v Speaker 1>for work? How do you make money to make the

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<v Speaker 1>children not die?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? So my wife and I when we left college,

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<v Speaker 3>we kind of had to figure out or we we

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<v Speaker 3>decided to see wait and see who was making the

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<v Speaker 3>most money.

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<v Speaker 1>You decided to wait and see who was making the

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<v Speaker 1>most money.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like getting jobs, you know, respectively, like in our

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<v Speaker 3>own career paths, and who was the most promising or

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<v Speaker 3>making the most amount of money or wanted, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly to be in a certain field or job or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>whoever had an inkling to stay there. Okay, And so

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<v Speaker 3>long story short, she uh preferred to work. So I

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<v Speaker 3>am the stay at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay do you? Okay? So you don't you did you

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<v Speaker 1>go what did you go to college?

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<v Speaker 3>For computer science?

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<v Speaker 1>Computer science? And you are you into that at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you trying to find gigs? Coding things?

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<v Speaker 3>Not right now? But I'm like, you know, I always

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<v Speaker 3>look around. I'm looking but not following.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, she prefers to work. I don't know, you know, so,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know which job sounds worse or more difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I bet they are both of their own things,

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<v Speaker 1>but like staying at home with the kids, and there

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<v Speaker 1>were the young they probably they need a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>attention right now because they're like one and ship right yep, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well this is you get a head start on imposing

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<v Speaker 1>your own values onto them that she's not around for.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's not you know, to be honest, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I have thought about that, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>now that you said it, I will.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll they'll grow when they when they grow up, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll subconsciously trust you more.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 1>This right?

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa my wife?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What does she do?

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<v Speaker 3>She is a software engineer.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a software engineer. Okay, so both of you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are computer nerds?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? And does she does she make enough money? That is,

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<v Speaker 1>like she can you know, support all all three of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Mostly?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Somebody in the

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<v Speaker 1>chat just said I thought he said he was a

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<v Speaker 1>soft core engineer at first, which I guess would be softcore.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just I don't know why I read that comment.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, what's your name again? Well, Wes, I want

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<v Speaker 1>what is there? I know we talked, we got I

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<v Speaker 1>got to learn a little bit about your life and

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<v Speaker 1>your balls and how they don't work anymore. What is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything before? I want to know is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>that you'd like specifically called in to want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about besides your balls?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm? I wanted to talk about I mean, honestly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I think we're just yeah, that's I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really have a particular reason. I just wanted to say

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<v Speaker 3>hi and have a conversation with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you will miss Well? Okay, so you

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<v Speaker 1>you have not. Okay, it's only been two days. You

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<v Speaker 1>have not come since the procedure, right, Why.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that funny?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean the hold on wait okay, well we

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<v Speaker 1>are this whole the thesis of this, this whole conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say, is centered around your vasectomy. But

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<v Speaker 1>it started from that, and so I'm going, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I was just before we before I let you go,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I have never got I actually don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I've ever had the chance to talk to somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's had a sectomy. So I'm like, before I I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know if I wanted, if I have any

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<v Speaker 1>other questions, And that's the question that I had.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's fair, that's fair. So so they you can't

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<v Speaker 3>do that until about a week after, Like you have

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<v Speaker 3>to wait, dude, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Bet it's gonna hurt really badly the first time you

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<v Speaker 1>come after this.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, don't mean you think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did your what did your doctors like, is it gonna

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<v Speaker 1>did your doctor tell you anything about like how it'll

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<v Speaker 1>feel different or is it gonna feel the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they said there's sometimes blood, but that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, that's it is. If that's not a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably gets you know. But I think if you know

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<v Speaker 3>if it's coming or then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess the way I'm I'm I'm having a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun making in my own mind the the

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<v Speaker 1>medical science of how vasectomy works. I think if their

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<v Speaker 1>doctor tells you that you're gonna come blood, it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a little bit of blood in your urethraw

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and when you come, it'll like wash it

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<v Speaker 1>out and then and then when you come afterwards, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be there won't be any more blood. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>like left over. Is that how that works or how?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean? Yeah, I thought about it too, and I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like it would have to be you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so much more fun to uh like come up

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<v Speaker 1>with random ways that science might work that's based off

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<v Speaker 1>of no research of any kind than it is to

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<v Speaker 1>actually learn about this stuff, right, I guess so, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's how the first like the very first people

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<v Speaker 1>man imagine the first vasectom.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, well, I want to you know, it might have

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<v Speaker 3>been unintentional, like getting kicked off by.

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<v Speaker 1>A horse, right, and then the guy was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can now have sex as much as I want without

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<v Speaker 1>creating babies. And he's like and he's like, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>got to try this. All you gotta do is get

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<v Speaker 1>kicked in the balls really hard by a horse. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably how you feel right now, is that you've

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<v Speaker 1>been partly hard on the balls of the horse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then the second me clinic was born. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>stand behind Bessie ten bucks of pop boom.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think this conversation has going on for far

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<v Speaker 1>too long, but I enjoyed having it very much.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good. Good.

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<v Speaker 1>Your name is Wes, correct, Wes yep, Wes. Well, Wes,

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<v Speaker 1>is there anything else you want to say to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Or God or or or bugs Bunny before we go,

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<v Speaker 1>or the people?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, your body, your choice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that. I guess that is that is true?

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<v Speaker 1>That it's like, that's like the men the male abortion.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I can go that far, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I retract. I have no fucking idea what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about anyway, Thank you for calling me.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, I've a man you quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm wait. I thought getting your tubes tied was something

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm so fucking stupid. I thought it was something

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<v Speaker 1>that guys dot. Isn't that what avaseectomy is? Getting your

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<v Speaker 1>tubes tied? I don't know. I could delete this part

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<v Speaker 1>from the podcast, actually keep it in. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>any I'm fucking stupid. Hello. Hi, oh god, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm a panic I'm okay, yeah, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>don't panic. Don't hold on. I have to sneeze, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a form of panic. Give me one second. S

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I said sneezing is a form

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<v Speaker 1>of panic. I guess it is. It's you, It's allergens

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<v Speaker 1>get into your nose, and your nose doesn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do, so it panics in the form of a sneeze.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't double, I shouldn't, you know, question the things

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<v Speaker 1>I say so much, I should just have confidence in

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<v Speaker 1>them that they make sense. I mean, none of none of,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing fucking makes sense. All the words that I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>right now were just declared to make sense by some

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<v Speaker 1>royal lord a thousand years ago. And he was just

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who had diarrhea and died. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who's gonna die, and we'll have diarrhea at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. So why can't I say random things that

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<v Speaker 1>don't make any sense and declare them to make sense

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<v Speaker 1>in my own.

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<v Speaker 4>Version of reality that's entirely understandable. I mean, whatever you

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<v Speaker 4>want to make sense will make sense.

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<v Speaker 5>And I feel like what.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I want to talk about today might make

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<v Speaker 4>sense to you, or it might not. But my fiance

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<v Speaker 4>told me that I should talk to you about this

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<v Speaker 4>if I ever got a hold of you. So I

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<v Speaker 4>have an important thing to tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I like you call it?

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<v Speaker 1>You're on board with me, and I appreciate that very

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<v Speaker 1>much even and you know what I can I can

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<v Speaker 1>actually tell in your voice that you don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>what I said made sense, but you're going along with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just be nice to me, and that makes me like

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<v Speaker 1>you even more. What is your name?

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<v Speaker 4>My name is Julie, Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's tell me the thing that your your fiance

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<v Speaker 1>wanted you to tell me?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? So I am a very strange person to start off,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I usually get cold weird by everybody I know

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<v Speaker 4>for plenty of reasons, but this is one recently that

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<v Speaker 4>my partner has called me very strange for. So, do

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<v Speaker 4>you know those like life like CPR dolls?

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<v Speaker 1>I like where this is going. Yes, So me and.

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<v Speaker 4>My partner were talking recently about like how creepy and

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<v Speaker 4>life like they are and how weird they are, and

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<v Speaker 4>I told him that I would love to keep one

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<v Speaker 4>as a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>As a friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Why yes, as a friend?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? And why what was your response to that?

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<v Speaker 4>To that question, my response was, I typically find it

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<v Speaker 4>hard to make friends with real people, and I like

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<v Speaker 4>jokingly have conversations like with myself a lot because I

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<v Speaker 4>spend a lot of time at home with my pets,

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<v Speaker 4>and every pet owner talks to them as if they're

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<v Speaker 4>a person. Right, So I feel like if I had

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<v Speaker 4>like a CPR doll, like one of the lifelike ones

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<v Speaker 4>that I could make look like a friend, I could

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<v Speaker 4>like keep it as company and I would be less lonely.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be like body doubling, but without a live

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<v Speaker 4>body there, so I would still be able to do

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<v Speaker 4>what I need to do and feel like I have company,

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<v Speaker 4>but not actually have to bother anybody to come over.

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<v Speaker 2>Mmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>It's well, people do that with sex, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>keep like sex dolls and stuff as like romantic partners.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is basically it would be like a platonic

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<v Speaker 1>friend doll.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's entirely platonic. I just like, like I dress

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<v Speaker 4>them up. We just chill out, hang at the house

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<v Speaker 4>and like they are my company. If I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm having a problem that day that I can't talk

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<v Speaker 4>to anybody about, Bam, I have somebody to talk to

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<v Speaker 4>and they're not gonna tell me I'm crazy or weird

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<v Speaker 4>through my problems. So I feel like it's not as

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<v Speaker 4>weird as my fancee says it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So you would want to dress this doll up or

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<v Speaker 1>what would you dress them? How would you dress them.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, like whatever I'm feeling that day, Like if it's

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<v Speaker 4>a jammie day, we'll both chill in sweats, right, m

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like that's acceptable. It's right to match with friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that a lot. Okay, And now when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to them, would you imagine in your brain how they

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<v Speaker 1>would respond to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, but it would always only be positive and it's

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<v Speaker 4>advice that's on my side.

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<v Speaker 1>So you so okay. So what I'm asking is, like the

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<v Speaker 1>you would be essentially projecting a personality onto the CPR doll.

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<v Speaker 1>Would that personality be just a reflection of your own personality?

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<v Speaker 1>Or would you try to make a friend who was

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<v Speaker 1>different from you? I could contrast with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I would make like a different a different

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<v Speaker 4>kind of person someone who like has like an opposite

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<v Speaker 4>style to me, but we get along because we're a

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<v Speaker 4>little different and we do things kind of the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now, how serious are you about this? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to like take CPR lessons so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can get one of these dolls? I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to get one.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it is but I don't know if I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that dedicated. It's very difficult to go out in

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<v Speaker 4>public sometimes to deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking on Amazon right now. For one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two dollars, you can get a CPR doll You

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<v Speaker 1>can't get the well, it's just a Tourso do you

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<v Speaker 1>need your friends to have legs?

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<v Speaker 4>I could probably gonna full body one, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>those ones are the sex ones, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>people to think I'm doing something weird with my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you can get one that's just a baby, now,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be weird. Look, here's the thing. I'm open

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<v Speaker 1>to listen, you know me, all right, I'm open minded,

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not you know, I don't yuck other people's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yulms, whatever they want to do with their life.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't get a baby one.

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<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, I would definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Not do that, although a b being friends with a

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<v Speaker 1>baby now being friends with the baby would suck. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want to name this part? This this guy?

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<v Speaker 4>I honestly haven't like thought that much about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>thinking maybe like like one of my like childhood cartoon icons, right,

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<v Speaker 4>like maybe like a brats doll name or something, or like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know one of the Barbie friends, like Raquel.

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<v Speaker 4>She sucks, but I could make her a better person

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<v Speaker 4>if she was my fake friend.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name again?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Julie, Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you have trouble making of friends that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't buy? Why do you have trouble making friends that

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<v Speaker 1>are fleshy people?

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<v Speaker 4>I am very like introverted.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I consider my fiance like my best friend. He's actually

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<v Speaker 4>here right now. He's like all in his own world.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you have you ever had friends?

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<v Speaker 4>I have had friends in the past, and it's either

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<v Speaker 4>they have done me wrong in some way or I've

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of like drifted away from them because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>really bad at keeping communication with people.

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<v Speaker 1>How old are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I am turning twenty one this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty one okay, And so, like, in high school, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have buddies? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I had like a lot of friends. I still talk

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<v Speaker 4>to like at least four of my high schoo friends,

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<v Speaker 4>but I only talk to them maybe once or twice

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<v Speaker 4>a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you had a lot of friends in high school,

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.199
<v Speaker 1>but you only talk to them once or twice. Did

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 1>they all do you. You don't live in the same

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<v Speaker 1>uh like area as them, do you.

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<v Speaker 4>We all live in the same city, but on different

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<v Speaker 4>parts of it, so like to see each other is

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<v Speaker 4>like a thirty minute or more drive and only more license.

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thirty minutes is dude, thirty minutes is nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, here's the thing I don't Julie. If you went

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and you bought a CPR doll and you dressed it

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>up in uh uh you know, and had pajamaites with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was what you wanted to do with your

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>time here on this earth and it made you happy,

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't blame you for it. But yeah, it sounds

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>like you do have friends. And I'm I'm no expert

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>in what makes people feel joy in this universe, but

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I can only hypothesize that you might have more fun

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with them than hanging out with a CPR doll.

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know, though, because like I have

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 4>a very overactive imagination and I love to watch like

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 4>movies or binge watch TV shows and I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>like a friend to binge watch those shows with. And

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 4>my partner works like all day every day, and he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't like the shows that I like about?

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<v Speaker 1>What about your friends? How come your friends won't watch

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>TV with you?

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<v Speaker 4>Because they also don't like the shows that I like?

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 4>And they also work more like throughout?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, but these friends, you became friends with them

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<v Speaker 1>for a reason. There must be something that you have

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in common with them that makes them made you want

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to be their friends in the first place. What do

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>you have in common with these people that are you know,

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a thirty minute drive away all the way in China.

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<v Speaker 4>Video games, honestly is what started all of our friendships.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so why don't you play? Why don't you hang

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>out with your friends and play video games? With stopping

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>you from doing that?

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 4>Because they all, like never have a chance to get

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<v Speaker 4>over here because they have other things to do, and

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 4>I usually just hide out in my house by myself.

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I have a question. This is a real question. There's

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>a real question. That's a real question. It's a real question.

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you do you and you can be honest with me,

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>because again I don't. I'm not an expert. I've said

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>this on the podcast started, but I googled how to

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<v Speaker 1>be happy? I'm no expert in this. Do you do

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you want friends? Do you want to have friends.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Honestly, having friends is kind of hard

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 4>nowadays because a lot of people can be like really

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 4>sneaky and it's scaried because like you never know who

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 4>to trust.

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's I used you know, you said that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I actually want to get into that with you, because

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>part of me has uh and maybe this is a

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe a hippy ish belief, but part of me feel

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>as though you you know, people find what they're looking for.

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And you said yeah with hesitation, because you're probably

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>about to tell me several horrible stories of friends stealing things.

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.959
<v Speaker 1>Tell me what what are your what your friends? How

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>did your friends backstab you? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Gosh? I had this one girl for the sake of

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 4>the story because I don't know if she listens to

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 4>your podcast or not. We're gonna give her a fake

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 4>name and I'm just gonna call her like I don't know,

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 4>Gemma for now, I guess.

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay with a J with a G. Okay, it doesn't

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't story in any way or shape or for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I just continue. I'm sorry, you can stop talking.

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 4>So me and this girl ended up becoming like best friends.

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 4>Freshman year of high school, and we stayed best friends

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<v Speaker 4>for about three years. And then junior year we had

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<v Speaker 4>this big junior prom and I had a boyfriend at

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 4>the time who had gone to a different school. I

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 4>brought him to my junior prom and she ended up

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 4>taking him home and neither of them ever talked to

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 4>me again after that night.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, that's one. Give me another one.

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh God, you're making me think about trauma.

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>No, because here's the thing. Look, keep I mean, look,

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to tell me. You don't have to

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>tell you can hang up with me right now. You

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>have no obligation to me at all. But I just

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I here's the thing, is I it upsets me that

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<v Speaker 1>you at such a I mean, you're also so fucking

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<v Speaker 1>you know young still I believe, I mean we're in

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the same age ish bracket. But but you know, for

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you to you know this, this this this girl, this

0:32:56.320 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>girl did this in high school. Yeah, and for you

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>for for something that's this some girl that to you

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>in high school, for you to be walking around life

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<v Speaker 1>with this thing that you said to me that people

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>can be sneaky, for that to be your fundamental belief

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 1>that you're walking around with you know, I just it's

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>upsetting to me.

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<v Speaker 4>That's understandable, Yeah, because I want to think that way.

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 4>Said again, I typically try not to think that way.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like the way that society has gone, and

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 4>people are just like led to believe that like everybody

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 4>sucks like all the time. It's it's hard because like,

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 4>especially with stuff on social media, people are talking about like,

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 4>oh this person was fake, but I still loved myself.

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 4>It's like, yeah, I do love me, but also I

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 4>wish more people could be real. But because it's so

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 4>portrayed that having a fake friend is normal all the time,

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 4>everyone thinks everyone's going to do them dirty, so they

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 4>do the other person bad.

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<v Speaker 1>First, dude, people are people on social media are pissed

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>off about everyone all the time. They're just it's just

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>everyone's mad. How often do you go outside and say

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>hi to a person and talk to them?

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 4>That's fair?

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, any here's any like fundamental And this

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>is just my own anecdotal thoughts. It's like any fundamental

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>belief that you have about people, it's just wrong. I

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>think because I whether well, whether because look, you could

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>be walking around being like I think people are you know,

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>always really nice and usually good and pretty chill, and

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>then you know, you whatever, you get fucked over in

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>some way. Or you could be walking around being like

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>everyone's an asshole and out for themselves and a piece

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>of shit and then you miss you know, opportunities of

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:04.439
<v Speaker 1>genuine connection. But I don't know it's to be. You're

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna be wrong either way in some ways. You know,

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 1>the broken clock is right twice a day. So wouldn't

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>you rather wouldn't you rather open your your arms and

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 1>your eyes and your brain and your hands and be,

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, look for not look for positive good chill vibes,

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>as they say, as opposed to always thinking that everyone's

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 1>a piece of shit all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, that's understandable. I definitely want to be

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 4>on the like bright side of things. I like to

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 4>think of myself as a pessimist. I think that's the

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 4>right one testimist, You.

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 1>Think of yourself as a pessimist? Yes, hm, well, I'm sorry,

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm sorry to hear that, Julie, because you

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>seem like a nice person. And what do you okay,

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 1>what do you do for work? School?

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 4>I currently don't do either. My partner works and makes

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 4>money for us, and I stay home and take care

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 4>of our house and both of our pets. I've been

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 4>looking for on like an online job, but I haven't

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 4>quite found one yet.

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, are you happy?

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm actually very happy.

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's awesome. Okay, maybe you should keep doing everything

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that you're I mean, I'm you could keep doing everything

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>you're doing that. I don't know what I'm trying to

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>tell you about, but uh, you know, if you're happy,

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like everything's working. You should get this. You

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.399
<v Speaker 1>should get the doll. Then, do you think the doll?

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 5>Do you think the doll?

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you think the doll would make you happy?

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 4>I think it would. I think it would make me

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 4>a little bit more happy.

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, you should get it.

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 4>All right, I appreciate that. I'm gonna have to tell

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 4>my man that you said that.

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's he doing? What's he do for work? Uh?

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 5>He he currently, as far as I know, is like

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 5>in a warehouse.

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 4>Okay, we don't talk very much about work. I just

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 4>know he's not doing anything illegal or shady. So I'm

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 4>you don't you don't you.

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Don't know, you don't really know what he does.

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 4>We talk about it a lot? He tells me that

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 4>he drives a lot, and that's pretty much the most

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.320
<v Speaker 4>I leave it at.

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you're used to having interactions. It sounds

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 1>like you're used to friendships or relationships where you don't

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>don't even talk that much. Is that that true?

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh No, me and him talk constantly. Okay, I just

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 4>like bother him while he's driving and we talk about

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 4>stuff I'm doing.

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think you should get the doll. I think

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I think you would have a lot of fun. I

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>don't you know. Here's the thing, and this is why

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't like. This is why I hate giving advice

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and why I say I don't give advice because I

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>don't fucking know what makes people happy. And also there's

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>infinite variables. So what this this everything you've described to

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 1>me sounds like it's working your life. The way you

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<v Speaker 1>live it as it stands sounds as though it's working

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>for you. If you can answer the question of whether

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>or not you're happy with.

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<v Speaker 3>A yes, I I adreciate that.

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 4>I am. I'm pretty happy with my life. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any advice for me?

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, just keep geking lyle honestly, like I'm I'm proud

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 4>of your progress. I love watching your streams.

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Due thanks Mane. Yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll get one.

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll get one of the dolls. They're not that I mean, look,

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.320
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and seventy four bucks for a friends.

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 4>If you get one, can you also put it in

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 4>a gecko costume and have it on stream?

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm gonna put mine in in a in a

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>in a speedo. Okay, Julie, is there anything else you

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>want to say to the people of the computer before

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 1>we go? Hi?

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.359
<v Speaker 4>People, I hope you enjoyed my stories and you guys

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 4>don't think I'm weird.

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>No, I think I think you're doing everything right for you.

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:23.760
<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for that, Lyle.

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 4>I needed to hear that from you.

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Julie, have a good rest of the night. You take

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>care you too, Bye bye bye. See. That's the thing, right,

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody could tell me I don't have any friends, and

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to go on Amazon and buy a two

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars uh CPR doll to be my friend because

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't have any friends. And then if I ask them, okay,

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>well are you happy with your life? And they go

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm very happy with my life. Then who the fuck

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 1>am I to say that they're not? And then I

0:39:57.560 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 1>hear that, and part of me is like, you know,

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I should be listening to this person about how they're

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>doing it, but I I don't know. It sess me

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:08.399
<v Speaker 1>that I don't. It bothers me that she has these

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>these fundamental beliefs that, you know, everyone sucks. I don't

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>think that's true. I think I think most people are

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 1>doing the best they can they you know, I think

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 1>there's no there's no shortage of poor decision making out there.

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 1>But where everyone's everyone's everyone's trying, everyone's trying. All right, Okay,

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 1>let's move on. Hello, Hello, Hi, who's this?

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh speaking?

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Who's a good Guaya?

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Have you guaya? What's going on? Guya?

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Nothing nice? Just cleaning up the garage and myself vintage

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 2>clothes sometimes and I'm taking my shit out of bush.

0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>That's cool. By vintage clothes are like, are do you

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>just mean? What's the what is the difference between selling

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:10.360
<v Speaker 1>vintage clothes and just having a garage sale?

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 2>It's very minor. But I think if you're good at

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:20.760
<v Speaker 2>selling vantage you have your your you're efficient in finding

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 2>the people that are looking for whatever specific thing you got.

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:27.919
<v Speaker 1>You know, my sister went to China and she got

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 1>me these like silk underwear that I haven't been able

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to wash some skid marks out of. Uh. Would that

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>count as vintage?

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:37.439
<v Speaker 3>It can?

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And if you want to really try your hardest

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 2>to getting them out, you can go to the Dollar

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 2>store and they sell the degree here called Austin spray.

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>No, no, I mean these are these are massive and

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, I haven't worn them in a while,

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>but they still kind of smell, and I Kevin Benev

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 1>got the shit smell out of them. Does that make

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it more vintage? Can that? Because does that mean I

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:58.720
<v Speaker 1>can sell it for more money?

0:41:59.560 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Potent?

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 2>Potentially It'll have to be. It's kind of a niche thing,

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess.

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>But all right, I think you and I have a

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 1>business idea of brewing here.

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Man, your name is what is your name again?

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 2>It's Gya. It's why it's uh, it's sort for guayava,

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 2>which is the Spanish translation of guava. It's also like

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 2>my performer name. I'm a musician.

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Guava like the fruit, Yes, my favorite my favorite as well?

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Is it really Yeah. When I was I took a

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Spanish in middle school and my Spanish teacher had one day.

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>My Spanish teacher didn't really didn't really teach Spanish. She

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like would bring in like different Goya

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>brand stuff and then make us watch Gabriel I Glaciers

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>stand up. Yeah, that was her, that was we. I

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:03.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know any verbs or anything. I just know the

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 1>term fluffy, but that's not any that's not Spanish.

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're a performer.

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:10.720
<v Speaker 1>How do you perform?

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:16.959
<v Speaker 2>I play guitar and a couple other instruments, but I've

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 2>been playing with my own like kind of solo band

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing for a couple of years now. I've

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 2>just got like, got really lucky that when I was

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 2>in middle school, I had a pretty good crowd of

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 2>kids around me, and everybody was into the same kind

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 2>of stuff, same kind of music. So ever since then,

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 2>we've kind of just stuck around and started playing. And

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 2>nobody else really wanted to go and start writing stuff,

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 2>but I did, so they just kind of followed me

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 2>and we've been we've been gigging around. Man, it's been fun.

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 2>It's been a crazy couple of years.

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 1>The term solo band. Uh sounds like, oh my god,

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>what there's a grammatical term for this? Holy a word

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that contradicts itself. What's the word for this? Do you

0:43:58.200 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm talking about? Please?

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? That was half uslipt. That's kind of my mistake.

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 2>But I just mean that it's a band and we

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 2>play live, but it's we play my music. You know,

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 2>it's released all the stuff.

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>There.

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Well I've been playing for a couple of years now

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's all my own original music. But my homies

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:26.319
<v Speaker 2>just play with me live and stuff and where we've

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>all been into jazz for a long time, so we

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.879
<v Speaker 2>kind of try to do a little a little something

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 2>different when we play. You know, we don't want to

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 2>just play the stuff like it's on the recordings. I

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 2>feel like that's kind of boring.

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Oxymoron, right, that's the word oxy moron. So a solo band, yeah, Like,

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>so how do you be a solo band? It is

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>it not a band? Is it just you? Or are

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you like weird?

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:54.359
<v Speaker 1>You can play the harmonica and the guitar and you know,

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the drum and all that.

0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean I can. I like, I recorded every instrument

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 2>on my own that I put in my recordings, but

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I just have my friends that played with me when

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 2>we play live. It's a solo project, but we got

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 2>a band on you know.

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what inspires your music, I don't know.

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess isolation, being around nature. I've been. I like,

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 2>I bought a four track tape recorder when I was

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 2>like fourteen or fifteen. I can't remember where. It might

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 2>have been, like a fifth store or something, but I

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 2>just kind of wanted to start piecing it together. And

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, It's it's a it's a big

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of meditative process for me. And it's it's a

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 2>big reason when I wanted to talk to you because

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I have recently been starting to gain some traction on

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 2>social media just posting like with the reels and trying

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.319
<v Speaker 2>to get the content out and just you know, trying

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:53.359
<v Speaker 2>to survive. But it's it's been fuck on my business, man,

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Like it's fogging on my head and I just I

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 2>don't like it.

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Not good tell tell, all right, So you're starting to

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 1>get some traction on the internet with you know, reels

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff, and it's it's fucking with your head.

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's it's something I guess, like to

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>start off, I've never really been a very digitally native person,

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 2>which is like how I wanted to discoverer. I'd normally

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 2>like to describe it. I just ever since, I feel

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 2>like I was a part of the last I'm twenty two,

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like I'm one of the last generations

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 2>of kids that really looks for connection by like going

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 2>out on the street and like riding bikes and like

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 2>playing with the soccer ball and stuff, you know, just

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 2>just meeting up with other kids for the sake of

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 2>just trying to find something to do, you know. And

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:45.280
<v Speaker 2>I never really played very or many like video games

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 2>or really like a lot of stuff online until more recently.

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:51.760
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, tell me why that's fucking with your head.

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 2>It's just a I don't know, like it's it's a

0:46:56.280 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 2>part of just like the interface of interacting with people

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 2>that aren't really there and like people that are very

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:09.720
<v Speaker 2>willing and casually like able to give you a compliment,

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:13.800
<v Speaker 2>which is always like nice to see, but they're also

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 2>just as willing to say like fuck you just to

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 2>really just to try to fuck with you a little

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 2>bit for kind of no reason.

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 2>There's there's always gonna be people that are going to

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 2>see that you're doing something and are going to want

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 2>to tear you down just because of this doesn't really matter,

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:32.839
<v Speaker 2>everyone wants, but you know, it's just it's tough because

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 2>if you're paying attention to one thing kind of have

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 2>to pay attention to another.

0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 1>And so are you getting a lot of like hate

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>comments and that's bothering you?

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 2>No, not even really, that's it's kind of what I'm saying,

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I'll have three hundred people being like this is great,

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:50.279
<v Speaker 2>I would like I want to hear more of this,

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 2>like give me the full version of the song or

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:54.920
<v Speaker 2>just whatever, and then there's going to be two people

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 2>that are just going to be out there and it's

0:47:57.680 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 2>it's not something that I can.

0:47:58.840 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Even really.

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Blame them for, you know, because I mean I don't know,

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Like I was a dickhead when I was a kid too,

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:09.439
<v Speaker 2>so like I can understand to being like fucking guys,

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:13.399
<v Speaker 2>there's kind of no reason, but still like it's it's

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 2>making me interact with these people as if they're there,

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 2>and like it's just taking a too much space in

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 2>my head. I guess like, yeah, I'm paying it too

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 2>much attention, you.

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Know, I'll say that this is something I've been thinking

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 1>about a lot because I'm also like so entrenched in

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the Internet and all this stuff, and it fucks, fucking

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 1>fuck fucks with me a lot. It's fucked with me

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the whole time I've been doing this, and it's you know,

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 1>it's weird d because you and I I'm twenty five

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:54.239
<v Speaker 1>or twenty two, we both kind of grew up with

0:48:54.440 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the Internet, and you know, we don't. You have to

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, and this is what I'm trying to

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, is like for all of human existence, Okay,

0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 1>if you were to like stretch it out onto its

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 1>timeline and then you were to pinpoint the part of

0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that timeline where the Internet exists, it would be like

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>it would like the timeline would span, you know, about

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:34.000
<v Speaker 1>one hundred football fields, and the part where the Internet

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 1>was invented would be about half a blade of grass

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:41.799
<v Speaker 1>all the way at the end. Yeah, you know, so

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 1>like so it makes so the it fucking with your head,

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>It fucking with my head, of course, of course, it's

0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:53.640
<v Speaker 1>fucking with our heads. We're not built for We're trying

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:58.240
<v Speaker 1>to figure it out as it's exponentially growing and taking

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:03.720
<v Speaker 1>us over and you know, uh, bringing out the fucking

0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 1>worst of us and also bringing up good stuff as well.

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:12.839
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, cut yourself some slack first of all

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:14.200
<v Speaker 1>on that shore.

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:16.799
<v Speaker 2>And it's yeah, and I mean it's something that I've

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 2>been aware of for a long time. Like I've never

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:22.799
<v Speaker 2>really trusted my phone in that kind of sense, where

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 2>like once I got a smartphone when I was like

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 2>getting into high school, I realized how much of a

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 2>pull it has towards my attention and how much of

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:36.839
<v Speaker 2>a time stuff it can be. And just like I've

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 2>just understood that, oh I'm kind of powerless. Like if

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I just pull a YouTube er now, I'm about to

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 2>be here for like three hours, and right, there's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of no two ways about it, you know. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course it's it's something that we weren't just not to

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<v Speaker 2>interact with, and there's going to be a period where

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<v Speaker 2>we're still trying to kind of get used to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But still as a creative, it's something that is, especially

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<v Speaker 2>with social media, one of the most powerful tools to

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<v Speaker 2>ever exist.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, even drawing the example to your show,

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like, could you imagine in the seventies when the

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<v Speaker 2>only real media outlets that you have were guarded by

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<v Speaker 2>people who had to make an investment in you and

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<v Speaker 2>had to like put theories of money into getting you

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<v Speaker 2>out there. This is something that's like you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>have to stay on the straight and narrow because ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>you want to make money. But now that creating is

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<v Speaker 2>totally free, everybody's free to make kind of whatever they want.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like the therapy because yeah, it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that can only exist right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know, m yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a hard thing to reckon with. I think about that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, right because the Internet as is a total

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<v Speaker 1>mind fuck that we are not our primitive animal brains

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<v Speaker 1>are not equipsed to you know, with you know, especially

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<v Speaker 1>not lots of attention on the internet because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean most people that ever lived, they only knew

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<v Speaker 1>like ten people and uh, you know, now I know

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<v Speaker 1>like about one hundred thousand fucking people, which was never

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to happen. But it's but it's you're right, I mean,

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:25.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole positive there's a there is a demense

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<v Speaker 1>you know, optimistic and positive part of it where uh

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:35.320
<v Speaker 1>it allows you know, independent artists and creators to form

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<v Speaker 1>communities and share their stuff, uh, which is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'm gonna look, man, if I were you, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>well you're you're a musician.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sair.

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<v Speaker 1>Mhmm. Here's what I Here's the only thing I think

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<v Speaker 1>is really important is that you're making whatever music you

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<v Speaker 1>want to make, and you're not making music that you

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<v Speaker 1>think will go viral. Yeah, because nothing, I mean, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>will make you less fucking happy than just like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to feed the machine. You know. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned this, the only thing you get, the only

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:22.319
<v Speaker 1>thing you get at of feeding the machine is that

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<v Speaker 1>you get to feed the machine more.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn fact, that's crazy. I never thought of it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still trying to comprehend that fact. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I saw all kinds of shit on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast that I'm trying to actually like internalize into

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<v Speaker 1>my own life. But that's just where my head's at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean, I think it's I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>really crazy. It's something that I I mean, I'm gonna

0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give you your flowers for a second if I can.

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<v Speaker 2>But over the past like a year and a half

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been listening to you, because I listen to

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<v Speaker 2>every single podcast since then. I just if I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>a walk or I'm on a driver or whatever, you're

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<v Speaker 2>the guy my man doesn't thrown you on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I really appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>I really admire the ability, or I guess, even if

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't intentional, the amount of people that you've brought

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<v Speaker 2>together who have no real connection aside from being entertained

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<v Speaker 2>by watching somebody be empathetic to somebody else's problems. Where

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have a very great personality and energy

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<v Speaker 2>the way that you interact with people. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just it's crazy because I think that you hear

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<v Speaker 2>people from all over the country and even all over

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:46.239
<v Speaker 2>the world on this pod, you know, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's so so mind bowing to think that all

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<v Speaker 2>this came of you just wanting to put a gecko

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<v Speaker 2>costume on and talking to the voice that is the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, uh well, thank what is your name again, Guya?

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<v Speaker 1>Well thanks, Guya. I appreciate that you've inspired me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to the store and I'm gonna get some

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>guava soda. That's my favorite you ever had. The Goya

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 1>guava soda. Actually, no, you gotta go have It's very good.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is it? The yeah yeahstos they're good.

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<v Speaker 2>The guava ones are freaking I've never heard of the

0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Goya ones. I'm gonna have to I'm not to speak

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<v Speaker 2>to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:36.799
<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we go?

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I want to say something to you first. I freaking

0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:42.360
<v Speaker 2>wrote a song about you.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the song?

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<v Speaker 3>It's called Therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on Spotify.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh ship, Okay, how do I find it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just look at the word therapy, get go and

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:56.399
<v Speaker 2>guya on Spotify and it should be you. Freaking dude,

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:59.279
<v Speaker 2>I've been calling for so long. I've been calling the

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<v Speaker 2>show for like past like five months. Just well, I'm glad.

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we finally got to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I'm it's such a blessing to be able

0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 2>to talk to you, brother.

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:15.759
<v Speaker 1>But it's a blessing that any of this if I

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<v Speaker 1>I think my life has gotten beyond any any point

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that I can uh comprehend, So I don't know. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for being with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, man. I hope to catch you if you can't.

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:29.239
<v Speaker 2>CALIFORNI your date.

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<v Speaker 1>On your tour well, November something, November something, I'll find you.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care man, have a benid.

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<v Speaker 2>Man never goes on the line taking your phone calls.

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<v Speaker 3>Every night, every beacon goes to and teaching you Cloud

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<v Speaker 3>in the mean of your life. Re