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Speaker 2: All from West.

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Speaker 1: Hello, what's your name, Wes Wesh? What's going on with you? Wes?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm laying on the couch, uh, recovering some surgery.

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Speaker 1: Oh, what kind of surgery?

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Speaker 3: Did you get oh I had a vsectam.

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Speaker 1: You had a vasectom yep? And how is how are

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Speaker 1: how are your balls? The vasectomy is in the balls?

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Speaker 3: Right? Yeah? Yeah. What they do is they just snip, snip,

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Speaker 3: and then you have no swimmers.

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Speaker 1: So how long How long does the surgery take?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's more of a procedure. It's like ten,

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Speaker 3: ten to fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know, look percee. Okay, so it's a procedure.

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Speaker 1: It sounds surgical. They're going, they're cutting open your ball

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Speaker 1: and they're like they take a This is how this

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Speaker 1: is in my mind. Whatever sect to me is they

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Speaker 1: cut your balls open and they take like a hose

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Speaker 1: and they basically do liposuction on your balls. But for come,

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Speaker 1: how how medically accurate is that? On a scale from

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Speaker 1: one to ten?

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Speaker 3: That's probably like, you know, you had everything except the

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Speaker 3: going in part, like you know, like accurate, but then

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Speaker 3: once you're inside it is all wrong.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so they do they do make an incision on

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Speaker 1: your ball. I mean I assume you were asleep for this,

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Speaker 1: unless if you were like no, no, keep me awake.

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Speaker 3: I want to know. No, you're not You're you're awake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're awake.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yep. You're sitting there with your legs open while

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Speaker 3: urologist does this to you.

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Speaker 1: Really so they make an ensue where do they make

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Speaker 1: the incision?

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Speaker 3: It's like right down the middle, right.

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Speaker 1: Down the middle of your but like of your taints

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Speaker 1: or of your.

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Speaker 3: Balls, of your balls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were awake when somebody sliced your balls open?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How was that sounds really painful? Well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you have you're you're you're kind of

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Speaker 3: connects your your ball, you know, the the the vast

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Speaker 3: difference of the sperm duct, I guess, and like they

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Speaker 3: pulled that out through the hole and then cut it,

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Speaker 3: cauterize each end, put that one back, and then do

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Speaker 1: Okay, and it only took like ten minutes. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was it simple enough that after watching them do it

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Speaker 3: I mean no, because it's like I feel comfortable that

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Speaker 3: I did my own research. But I think, yeah, based

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Speaker 1: Now with you being awake, you know, when I was

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Speaker 1: like a kid, I mean even now, like when I

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Speaker 1: Did you look did you watch them cut your balls open?

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Speaker 3: So, you know, like the exam table in the doctor's

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Speaker 1: What were you thinking about? Like do you remember the

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Speaker 1: actual thoughts going on in your head while this was happening?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do. Oh god, oh god, ow whoa wait,

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Speaker 3: at what point?

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Speaker 1: At what point in the procedure did you go whoa?

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Speaker 3: I think that was when they injected the numbing agent

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Speaker 3: It like shot right up my back and I like

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it like it kind of it shook

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Speaker 1: the glass okay exactly, And did you thank the doctor afterwards?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think I think he just knew because

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Speaker 3: than I would ever. I know, they didn't answer your question,

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Speaker 1: Sort of answered that sort of answered my question. Do

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Speaker 1: they numb the area before they cut your balls open?

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Speaker 1: Or they just go for it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it gets numbed. M hmm, Sophie. It's supposed

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Speaker 3: to be a painless procedure, but it's not not for

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Speaker 1: And when did this happen? When was this all taking place?

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Speaker 3: Oh, a couple of days ago. Actually, how are you?

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Speaker 1: How are your balls feeling now?

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Speaker 3: Like they need eternal rest?

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Speaker 1: Really? So it's still pretty pretty fucked up down there?

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's not like fucked up, fucked up,

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Speaker 3: but it's just like sore, you know. It feels like

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Speaker 3: you're recovering from a really bad kick in the ball.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's I want to talk about this

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Speaker 1: stuff around the procedure. What made you want to get

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Speaker 3: the wild two days after my birthday mm hmm. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: we kind of just knew, like we were not going

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Speaker 3: you know, when they're close together. Our kids are close together.

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Speaker 3: But beside the point, it was the least invasive overall

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Speaker 1: Mm. Okay, Okay, now does it. I'm still I still

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Speaker 1: have medical questions for you. I always thought and I

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Speaker 1: of vasectomy, like like when you come, like nothing comes out,

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Speaker 1: and as an adult, I never confirmed or denied that.

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Speaker 1: So you you can still come.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, yeah, because that's not it's just like

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Speaker 3: you're the only thing you're doing is you're cutting off

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Speaker 3: one of the ingredients to the cocktail. Okay, but so

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Speaker 3: nothing changes, nothing at all except that you're sterile.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And you know what, look by the way I

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Speaker 1: think this, this sounds like it was a well thought

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Speaker 1: out decision because you had two already, and I don't

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Speaker 1: and no offense to anyone who has more than two kids,

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Speaker 1: but I can't I don't know what would be added

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess one of the positives is that

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Speaker 3: they could all raise each other, right, so you don't

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Speaker 3: have to really do much. But that wasn't our modus operandi.

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Speaker 1: I feel like a baby raising a baby would both

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Speaker 3: Well, but that's why you need like fourteen kids back

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Speaker 3: to back, so like as you're mom and them out,

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Speaker 3: they're all cared for by the oldest, you know, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, Okay, you're actually I kind of like where you're

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Speaker 1: going at with this, because you're right. I think I

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Speaker 1: think two babies would just die immediately, but fourteen babies

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Speaker 1: put them all in like a pin, kind of like

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Speaker 1: rug rats. They'd figure something, they'd kind of figure it out.

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Speaker 3: Probably, Yeah, I mean, I you know, who knows that

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Speaker 3: would be Stanford material.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think this conversation is making it to Stanford.

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Speaker 1: But what Okay, So, so you how is things going

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Speaker 3: Well, one of them are oldest, she is a year well,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, so year and six buckers year and a half,

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Speaker 1: Over a year and a half, year and a half, okay.

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Speaker 3: And then the youngest was born this past January.

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Speaker 1: Okay, month old. So they're only they only have like

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Speaker 3: Uh, sixteen months.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen months, okay, that's that's a year when they when

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Speaker 1: when they are both like when they're like thirteen and fourteen,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to be saying sixteen months, they'll be like,

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Speaker 1: he's a year. Although, wait a minute, so that means

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Speaker 3: Do you want to know something crazy about this? Do

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Speaker 3: you want to look crazy?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So our oldest was born in September, and my

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Speaker 3: our kids are the exact same d like within a

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Speaker 3: exact same birthdays that my parents had, which is not

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Speaker 3: like something that we planned at all. It just happened

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Speaker 1: That would be kind of weird if you did plan it.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, yeah, but I mean I don't even know

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Speaker 1: I mean, you'd can see Eve nine months before your

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Speaker 1: mom's birthday, but that would I was just saying it'd

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Speaker 1: and thinking about this is great because now we're gonna

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Speaker 3: See. No, that never Yeah, that never happened.

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Speaker 1: You have two children, they're both alive. There, they're only

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Speaker 1: and the fact that they're only one year older, Thanny,

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Speaker 1: that means that are they are they? You said, are

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Speaker 1: they both? Are they both boys? There's a boy and

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Speaker 3: It's a boy and a girl.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So they're both gonna like be in like school together,

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Speaker 1: and I assume I assume they'll be in the same

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Speaker 1: like grade or like one's a grade above or the

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Speaker 1: grade below.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably a grade or two part.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So they'll be in each other's lives sort of

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Speaker 1: in in in the the social universe of school.

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Speaker 3: Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good I think it's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: It's not it's good like when you go to my

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Speaker 1: sister is Wait, when I was a freshman in high school,

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Speaker 1: but she was a senior when I was a freshman.

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Speaker 1: I don't know it's it's I think it's probably a

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Speaker 1: good thing to have, like an older sibling looking out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you will miss Well? Okay, so you

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Speaker 3: No, that's fair, that's fair. So so they you can't

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Speaker 1: Bet it's gonna hurt really badly the first time you

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Speaker 3: Oh, don't mean you think about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, they said there's sometimes blood, but that's it.

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Speaker 3: Probably gets you know. But I think if you know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the way I'm I'm I'm having a

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Speaker 3: I mean? Yeah, I thought about it too, and I

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Speaker 3: Oh, well, I want to you know, it might have

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Speaker 1: A horse, right, and then the guy was like, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the second me clinic was born. You know,

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Speaker 1: Well, I think this conversation has going on for far

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Speaker 3: That's good. Good.

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Speaker 1: Your name is Wes, correct, Wes yep, Wes. Well, Wes,

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Speaker 1: is there anything else you want to say to me?

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Speaker 1: Or God or or or bugs Bunny before we go,

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Speaker 1: or the people?

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, your body, your choice.

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Speaker 1: You know that. I guess that is that is true?

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Speaker 1: That it's like, that's like the men the male abortion.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I can go that far, but

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Speaker 1: I'm I retract. I have no fucking idea what I'm

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I've a man you quick.

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Speaker 1: Hmm wait. I thought getting your tubes tied was something

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Speaker 1: that guys dot. Isn't that what avaseectomy is? Getting your

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Speaker 1: any I'm fucking stupid. Hello. Hi, oh god, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm a panic I'm okay, yeah, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: Yes, I shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't double, I shouldn't, you know, question the things

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Speaker 1: nothing fucking makes sense. All the words that I'm saying

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Speaker 4: Version of reality that's entirely understandable. I mean, whatever you

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Speaker 5: And I feel like what.

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Speaker 4: I think I want to talk about today might make

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Speaker 3: You know what I like you call it?

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Speaker 1: You're on board with me, and I appreciate that very

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Speaker 1: Just be nice to me, and that makes me like

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Speaker 4: My name is Julie, Julie.

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Speaker 1: What's what's tell me the thing that your your fiance

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Speaker 4: Okay? So I am a very strange person to start off,

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Speaker 4: I'm I usually get cold weird by everybody I know

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Speaker 4: you know those like life like CPR dolls?

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Speaker 1: I like where this is going. Yes, So me and.

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Speaker 4: I told him that I would love to keep one

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Speaker 1: As a friend.

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Speaker 4: Why yes, as a friend?

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Speaker 1: Okay? And why what was your response to that?

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Speaker 4: To that question, my response was, I typically find it

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Speaker 4: It would be like body doubling, but without a live

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Speaker 2: Mmmm.

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Speaker 1: It's well, people do that with sex, you know, they

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Speaker 1: But this is basically it would be like a platonic

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's entirely platonic. I just like, like I dress

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Speaker 1: So you would want to dress this doll up or

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Speaker 4: Honestly, like whatever I'm feeling that day, Like if it's

444
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 4: a jammie day, we'll both chill in sweats, right, m

445
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 4: I feel like that's acceptable. It's right to match with friends.

446
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: Do that a lot. Okay, And now when you talk

447
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: to them, would you imagine in your brain how they

448
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: would respond to you?

449
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 4: Yes, but it would always only be positive and it's

450
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 4: advice that's on my side.

451
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: So you so okay. So what I'm asking is, like the

452
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: you would be essentially projecting a personality onto the CPR doll.

453
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: Would that personality be just a reflection of your own personality?

454
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: Or would you try to make a friend who was

455
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: different from you? I could contrast with you.

456
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 4: I think I would make like a different a different

457
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 4: kind of person someone who like has like an opposite

458
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: style to me, but we get along because we're a

459
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: little different and we do things kind of the same way.

460
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, how serious are you about this? Are you

461
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: going to try to like take CPR lessons so that

462
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: you can get one of these dolls? I think that's

463
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: the only way to get one.

464
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 5: I think it is but I don't know if I'm.

465
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 4: Like that dedicated. It's very difficult to go out in

466
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 4: public sometimes to deal.

467
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.

468
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking on Amazon right now. For one hundred and

469
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: seventy two dollars, you can get a CPR doll You

470
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: can't get the well, it's just a Tourso do you

471
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: need your friends to have legs?

472
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 4: I could probably gonna full body one, but I think

473
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 4: those ones are the sex ones, and I don't want

474
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 4: people to think I'm doing something weird with my friend.

475
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: Oh you can get one that's just a baby, now,

476
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: that would be weird. Look, here's the thing. I'm open

477
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: to listen, you know me, all right, I'm open minded,

478
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: and I'm not you know, I don't yuck other people's

479
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, yulms, whatever they want to do with their life.

480
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: But don't get a baby one.

481
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 4: No, yeah, I would definitely.

482
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: Not do that, although a b being friends with a

483
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: baby now being friends with the baby would suck. Okay,

484
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: what do you want to name this part? This this guy?

485
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 4: I honestly haven't like thought that much about it. I'm

486
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 4: thinking maybe like like one of my like childhood cartoon icons, right,

487
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 4: like maybe like a brats doll name or something, or like,

488
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: I don't know one of the Barbie friends, like Raquel.

489
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 4: She sucks, but I could make her a better person

490
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 4: if she was my fake friend.

491
00:26:59,080 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: What's your name again?

492
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: I'm Julie, Julie.

493
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: Why do you have trouble making of friends that you

494
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: can't buy? Why do you have trouble making friends that

495
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: are fleshy people?

496
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 4: I am very like introverted.

497
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: Okay.

498
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: I consider my fiance like my best friend. He's actually

499
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: here right now. He's like all in his own world.

500
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: Have you have you ever had friends?

501
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 4: I have had friends in the past, and it's either

502
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 4: they have done me wrong in some way or I've

503
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 4: just kind of like drifted away from them because I'm

504
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: really bad at keeping communication with people.

505
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: How old are you?

506
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 4: I am turning twenty one this year.

507
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: Twenty one okay, And so, like, in high school, do

508
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: you have buddies? Oh?

509
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 4: I had like a lot of friends. I still talk

510
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: to like at least four of my high schoo friends,

511
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 4: but I only talk to them maybe once or twice

512
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 4: a year.

513
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: Okay, So you had a lot of friends in high school,

514
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: but you only talk to them once or twice. Did

515
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: they all do you. You don't live in the same

516
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 1: uh like area as them, do you.

517
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 4: We all live in the same city, but on different

518
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: parts of it, so like to see each other is

519
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: like a thirty minute or more drive and only more license.

520
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty minutes is dude, thirty minutes is nothing.

521
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

522
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: Look, here's the thing I don't Julie. If you went

523
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: and you bought a CPR doll and you dressed it

524
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: up in uh uh you know, and had pajamaites with it,

525
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: and that was what you wanted to do with your

526
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: time here on this earth and it made you happy,

527
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame you for it. But yeah, it sounds

528
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: like you do have friends. And I'm I'm no expert

529
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: in what makes people feel joy in this universe, but

530
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: I can only hypothesize that you might have more fun

531
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: hanging out with them than hanging out with a CPR doll.

532
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, though, because like I have

533
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: a very overactive imagination and I love to watch like

534
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: movies or binge watch TV shows and I don't have

535
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: like a friend to binge watch those shows with. And

536
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 4: my partner works like all day every day, and he

537
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: doesn't like the shows that I like about?

538
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: What about your friends? How come your friends won't watch

539
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: TV with you?

540
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: Because they also don't like the shows that I like?

541
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: And they also work more like throughout?

542
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but these friends, you became friends with them

543
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: for a reason. There must be something that you have

544
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: in common with them that makes them made you want

545
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: to be their friends in the first place. What do

546
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: you have in common with these people that are you know,

547
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: a thirty minute drive away all the way in China.

548
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 4: Video games, honestly is what started all of our friendships.

549
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: Okay, so why don't you play? Why don't you hang

550
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: out with your friends and play video games? With stopping

551
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: you from doing that?

552
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: Because they all, like never have a chance to get

553
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: over here because they have other things to do, and

554
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 4: I usually just hide out in my house by myself.

555
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: I have a question. This is a real question. There's

556
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: a real question. That's a real question. It's a real question.

557
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: Do you do you and you can be honest with me,

558
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: because again I don't. I'm not an expert. I've said

559
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: this on the podcast started, but I googled how to

560
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: be happy? I'm no expert in this. Do you do

561
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: you want friends? Do you want to have friends.

562
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 4: I don't know. Honestly, having friends is kind of hard

563
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 4: nowadays because a lot of people can be like really

564
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 4: sneaky and it's scaried because like you never know who

565
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: to trust.

566
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: Okay, that's I used you know, you said that, and

567
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: I actually want to get into that with you, because

568
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: part of me has uh and maybe this is a

569
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: maybe a hippy ish belief, but part of me feel

570
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: as though you you know, people find what they're looking for.

571
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

572
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

573
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: Okay, And you said yeah with hesitation, because you're probably

574
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: about to tell me several horrible stories of friends stealing things.

575
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 1: Tell me what what are your what your friends? How

576
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: did your friends backstab you? Oh?

577
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 4: Gosh? I had this one girl for the sake of

578
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 4: the story because I don't know if she listens to

579
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 4: your podcast or not. We're gonna give her a fake

580
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: name and I'm just gonna call her like I don't know,

581
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: Gemma for now, I guess.

582
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: Okay with a J with a G. Okay, it doesn't

583
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: That doesn't story in any way or shape or for him.

584
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: I just continue. I'm sorry, you can stop talking.

585
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 4: So me and this girl ended up becoming like best friends.

586
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 4: Freshman year of high school, and we stayed best friends

587
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: for about three years. And then junior year we had

588
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 4: this big junior prom and I had a boyfriend at

589
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 4: the time who had gone to a different school. I

590
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 4: brought him to my junior prom and she ended up

591
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: taking him home and neither of them ever talked to

592
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 4: me again after that night.

593
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's one. Give me another one.

594
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 4: Oh God, you're making me think about trauma.

595
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: No, because here's the thing. Look, keep I mean, look,

596
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to tell me. You don't have to

597
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: tell you can hang up with me right now. You

598
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: have no obligation to me at all. But I just

599
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: I here's the thing, is I it upsets me that

600
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: you at such a I mean, you're also so fucking

601
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: you know young still I believe, I mean we're in

602
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: the same age ish bracket. But but you know, for

603
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: you to you know this, this this this girl, this

604
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: girl did this in high school. Yeah, and for you

605
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: for for something that's this some girl that to you

606
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: in high school, for you to be walking around life

607
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: with this thing that you said to me that people

608
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: can be sneaky, for that to be your fundamental belief

609
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: that you're walking around with you know, I just it's

610
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: upsetting to me.

611
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: That's understandable, Yeah, because I want to think that way.

612
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: Said again, I typically try not to think that way.

613
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 4: It's just like the way that society has gone, and

614
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 4: people are just like led to believe that like everybody

615
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: sucks like all the time. It's it's hard because like,

616
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: especially with stuff on social media, people are talking about like,

617
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 4: oh this person was fake, but I still loved myself.

618
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I do love me, but also I

619
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: wish more people could be real. But because it's so

620
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 4: portrayed that having a fake friend is normal all the time,

621
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: everyone thinks everyone's going to do them dirty, so they

622
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 4: do the other person bad.

623
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: First, dude, people are people on social media are pissed

624
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: off about everyone all the time. They're just it's just

625
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: everyone's mad. How often do you go outside and say

626
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: hi to a person and talk to them?

627
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 4: That's fair?

628
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, any here's any like fundamental And this

629
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: is just my own anecdotal thoughts. It's like any fundamental

630
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: belief that you have about people, it's just wrong. I

631
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: think because I whether well, whether because look, you could

632
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: be walking around being like I think people are you know,

633
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: always really nice and usually good and pretty chill, and

634
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: then you know, you whatever, you get fucked over in

635
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: some way. Or you could be walking around being like

636
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: everyone's an asshole and out for themselves and a piece

637
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: of shit and then you miss you know, opportunities of

638
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: genuine connection. But I don't know it's to be. You're

639
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: gonna be wrong either way in some ways. You know,

640
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: the broken clock is right twice a day. So wouldn't

641
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: you rather wouldn't you rather open your your arms and

642
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: your eyes and your brain and your hands and be,

643
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, look for not look for positive good chill vibes,

644
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: as they say, as opposed to always thinking that everyone's

645
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: a piece of shit all the time.

646
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, that's understandable. I definitely want to be

647
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 4: on the like bright side of things. I like to

648
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 4: think of myself as a pessimist. I think that's the

649
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: right one testimist, You.

650
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: Think of yourself as a pessimist? Yes, hm, well, I'm sorry,

651
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry to hear that, Julie, because you

652
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: seem like a nice person. And what do you okay,

653
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: what do you do for work? School?

654
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 4: I currently don't do either. My partner works and makes

655
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: money for us, and I stay home and take care

656
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: of our house and both of our pets. I've been

657
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: looking for on like an online job, but I haven't

658
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 4: quite found one yet.

659
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: Okay, well, are you happy?

660
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 4: I'm actually very happy.

661
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Okay, maybe you should keep doing everything

662
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: that you're I mean, I'm you could keep doing everything

663
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: you're doing that. I don't know what I'm trying to

664
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: tell you about, but uh, you know, if you're happy,

665
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: it sounds like everything's working. You should get this. You

666
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: should get the doll. Then, do you think the doll?

667
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 5: Do you think the doll?

668
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: Do you think the doll would make you happy?

669
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 4: I think it would. I think it would make me

670
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: a little bit more happy.

671
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you should get it.

672
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: All right, I appreciate that. I'm gonna have to tell

673
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: my man that you said that.

674
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: Okay, what's he doing? What's he do for work? Uh?

675
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 5: He he currently, as far as I know, is like

676
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 5: in a warehouse.

677
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 4: Okay, we don't talk very much about work. I just

678
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 4: know he's not doing anything illegal or shady. So I'm

679
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 4: you don't you don't you.

680
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: Don't know, you don't really know what he does.

681
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 4: We talk about it a lot? He tells me that

682
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 4: he drives a lot, and that's pretty much the most

683
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 4: I leave it at.

684
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: It sounds like you're used to having interactions. It sounds

685
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: like you're used to friendships or relationships where you don't

686
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: don't even talk that much. Is that that true?

687
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: Oh No, me and him talk constantly. Okay, I just

688
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: like bother him while he's driving and we talk about

689
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: stuff I'm doing.

690
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I think you should get the doll. I think

691
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: I think you would have a lot of fun. I

692
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: don't you know. Here's the thing, and this is why

693
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't like. This is why I hate giving advice

694
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: and why I say I don't give advice because I

695
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: don't fucking know what makes people happy. And also there's

696
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: infinite variables. So what this this everything you've described to

697
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: me sounds like it's working your life. The way you

698
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: live it as it stands sounds as though it's working

699
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: for you. If you can answer the question of whether

700
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: or not you're happy with.

701
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: A yes, I I adreciate that.

702
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 4: I am. I'm pretty happy with my life. Thanks.

703
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Do you have any advice for me?

704
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 4: Honestly, just keep geking lyle honestly, like I'm I'm proud

705
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 4: of your progress. I love watching your streams.

706
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Due thanks Mane. Yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll get one.

707
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: I'll get one of the dolls. They're not that I mean, look,

708
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy four bucks for a friends.

709
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: If you get one, can you also put it in

710
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: a gecko costume and have it on stream?

711
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna put mine in in a in a

712
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: in a speedo. Okay, Julie, is there anything else you

713
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: want to say to the people of the computer before

714
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: we go? Hi?

715
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 4: People, I hope you enjoyed my stories and you guys

716
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 4: don't think I'm weird.

717
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: No, I think I think you're doing everything right for you.

718
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for that, Lyle.

719
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 4: I needed to hear that from you.

720
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: Julie, have a good rest of the night. You take

721
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: care you too, Bye bye bye. See. That's the thing, right,

722
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: somebody could tell me I don't have any friends, and

723
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: I'm about to go on Amazon and buy a two

724
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: hundred dollars uh CPR doll to be my friend because

725
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't have any friends. And then if I ask them, okay,

726
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: well are you happy with your life? And they go

727
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: I'm very happy with my life. Then who the fuck

728
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: am I to say that they're not? And then I

729
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: hear that, and part of me is like, you know,

730
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: I should be listening to this person about how they're

731
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: doing it, but I I don't know. It sess me

732
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: that I don't. It bothers me that she has these

733
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: these fundamental beliefs that, you know, everyone sucks. I don't

734
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: think that's true. I think I think most people are

735
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: doing the best they can they you know, I think

736
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: there's no there's no shortage of poor decision making out there.

737
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: But where everyone's everyone's everyone's trying, everyone's trying. All right, Okay,

738
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: let's move on. Hello, Hello, Hi, who's this?

739
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh speaking?

740
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 3: Who's a good Guaya?

741
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: Have you guaya? What's going on? Guya?

742
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: Nothing nice? Just cleaning up the garage and myself vintage

743
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: clothes sometimes and I'm taking my shit out of bush.

744
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: That's cool. By vintage clothes are like, are do you

745
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: just mean? What's the what is the difference between selling

746
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: vintage clothes and just having a garage sale?

747
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: It's very minor. But I think if you're good at

748
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 2: selling vantage you have your your you're efficient in finding

749
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: the people that are looking for whatever specific thing you got.

750
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: You know, my sister went to China and she got

751
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: me these like silk underwear that I haven't been able

752
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: to wash some skid marks out of. Uh. Would that

753
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: count as vintage?

754
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 3: It can?

755
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you want to really try your hardest

756
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: to getting them out, you can go to the Dollar

757
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: store and they sell the degree here called Austin spray.

758
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: No, no, I mean these are these are massive and

759
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: it's you know, I haven't worn them in a while,

760
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: but they still kind of smell, and I Kevin Benev

761
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: got the shit smell out of them. Does that make

762
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: it more vintage? Can that? Because does that mean I

763
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: can sell it for more money?

764
00:41:59,560 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: Potent?

765
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: Potentially It'll have to be. It's kind of a niche thing,

766
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: I guess.

767
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: But all right, I think you and I have a

768
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: business idea of brewing here.

769
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

770
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: Man, your name is what is your name again?

771
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: It's Gya. It's why it's uh, it's sort for guayava,

772
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: which is the Spanish translation of guava. It's also like

773
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: my performer name. I'm a musician.

774
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: Guava like the fruit, Yes, my favorite my favorite as well?

775
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: Is it really Yeah. When I was I took a

776
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: Spanish in middle school and my Spanish teacher had one day.

777
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: My Spanish teacher didn't really didn't really teach Spanish. She

778
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: just kind of like would bring in like different Goya

779
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: brand stuff and then make us watch Gabriel I Glaciers

780
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: stand up. Yeah, that was her, that was we. I

781
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: don't know any verbs or anything. I just know the

782
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: term fluffy, but that's not any that's not Spanish.

783
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a performer.

784
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: How do you perform?

785
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 2: I play guitar and a couple other instruments, but I've

786
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: been playing with my own like kind of solo band

787
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: kind of thing for a couple of years now. I've

788
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: just got like, got really lucky that when I was

789
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: in middle school, I had a pretty good crowd of

790
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: kids around me, and everybody was into the same kind

791
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: of stuff, same kind of music. So ever since then,

792
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: we've kind of just stuck around and started playing. And

793
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: nobody else really wanted to go and start writing stuff,

794
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: but I did, so they just kind of followed me

795
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: and we've been we've been gigging around. Man, it's been fun.

796
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: It's been a crazy couple of years.

797
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: The term solo band. Uh sounds like, oh my god,

798
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: what there's a grammatical term for this? Holy a word

799
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: that contradicts itself. What's the word for this? Do you

800
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? Please?

801
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was half uslipt. That's kind of my mistake.

802
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: But I just mean that it's a band and we

803
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: play live, but it's we play my music. You know,

804
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: it's released all the stuff.

805
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: There.

806
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

807
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: Well I've been playing for a couple of years now

808
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 2: and it's all my own original music. But my homies

809
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: just play with me live and stuff and where we've

810
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: all been into jazz for a long time, so we

811
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 2: kind of try to do a little a little something

812
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: different when we play. You know, we don't want to

813
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: just play the stuff like it's on the recordings. I

814
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: feel like that's kind of boring.

815
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: Oxymoron, right, that's the word oxy moron. So a solo band, yeah, Like,

816
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: so how do you be a solo band? It is

817
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: it not a band? Is it just you? Or are

818
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: you like weird?

819
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: Now?

820
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: You can play the harmonica and the guitar and you know,

821
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: the drum and all that.

822
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 2: I mean I can. I like, I recorded every instrument

823
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: on my own that I put in my recordings, but

824
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: I just have my friends that played with me when

825
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: we play live. It's a solo project, but we got

826
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: a band on you know.

827
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: Okay, what inspires your music, I don't know.

828
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: I guess isolation, being around nature. I've been. I like,

829
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: I bought a four track tape recorder when I was

830
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: like fourteen or fifteen. I can't remember where. It might

831
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: have been, like a fifth store or something, but I

832
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: just kind of wanted to start piecing it together. And

833
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, It's it's a it's a big

834
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: kind of meditative process for me. And it's it's a

835
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: big reason when I wanted to talk to you because

836
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: I have recently been starting to gain some traction on

837
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: social media just posting like with the reels and trying

838
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: to get the content out and just you know, trying

839
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: to survive. But it's it's been fuck on my business, man,

840
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: Like it's fogging on my head and I just I

841
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: don't like it.

842
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: Not good tell tell, all right, So you're starting to

843
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: get some traction on the internet with you know, reels

844
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and it's it's fucking with your head.

845
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's something I guess, like to

846
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: start off, I've never really been a very digitally native person,

847
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: which is like how I wanted to discoverer. I'd normally

848
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: like to describe it. I just ever since, I feel

849
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: like I was a part of the last I'm twenty two,

850
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: but I feel like I'm one of the last generations

851
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: of kids that really looks for connection by like going

852
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: out on the street and like riding bikes and like

853
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: playing with the soccer ball and stuff, you know, just

854
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: just meeting up with other kids for the sake of

855
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: just trying to find something to do, you know. And

856
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: I never really played very or many like video games

857
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: or really like a lot of stuff online until more recently.

858
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: So I mean, tell me why that's fucking with your head.

859
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: It's just a I don't know, like it's it's a

860
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: part of just like the interface of interacting with people

861
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: that aren't really there and like people that are very

862
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 2: willing and casually like able to give you a compliment,

863
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 2: which is always like nice to see, but they're also

864
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: just as willing to say like fuck you just to

865
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: really just to try to fuck with you a little

866
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: bit for kind of no reason.

867
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: You know.

868
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: There's there's always gonna be people that are going to

869
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: see that you're doing something and are going to want

870
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: to tear you down just because of this doesn't really matter,

871
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: everyone wants, but you know, it's just it's tough because

872
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: if you're paying attention to one thing kind of have

873
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: to pay attention to another.

874
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: And so are you getting a lot of like hate

875
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: comments and that's bothering you?

876
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: No, not even really, that's it's kind of what I'm saying,

877
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: Like I'll have three hundred people being like this is great,

878
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: I would like I want to hear more of this,

879
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: like give me the full version of the song or

880
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: just whatever, and then there's going to be two people

881
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: that are just going to be out there and it's

882
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: it's not something that I can.

883
00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: Even really.

884
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: Blame them for, you know, because I mean I don't know,

885
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 2: Like I was a dickhead when I was a kid too,

886
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 2: so like I can understand to being like fucking guys,

887
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 2: there's kind of no reason, but still like it's it's

888
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: making me interact with these people as if they're there,

889
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: and like it's just taking a too much space in

890
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: my head. I guess like, yeah, I'm paying it too

891
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: much attention, you.

892
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: Know, I'll say that this is something I've been thinking

893
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: about a lot because I'm also like so entrenched in

894
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: the Internet and all this stuff, and it fucks, fucking

895
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: fuck fucks with me a lot. It's fucked with me

896
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: the whole time I've been doing this, and it's you know,

897
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: it's weird d because you and I I'm twenty five

898
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: or twenty two, we both kind of grew up with

899
00:48:54,440 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: the Internet, and you know, we don't. You have to

900
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: keep in mind, and this is what I'm trying to

901
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: keep in mind, is like for all of human existence, Okay,

902
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: if you were to like stretch it out onto its

903
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: timeline and then you were to pinpoint the part of

904
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: that timeline where the Internet exists, it would be like

905
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: it would like the timeline would span, you know, about

906
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: one hundred football fields, and the part where the Internet

907
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: was invented would be about half a blade of grass

908
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: all the way at the end. Yeah, you know, so

909
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: like so it makes so the it fucking with your head,

910
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: It fucking with my head, of course, of course, it's

911
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: fucking with our heads. We're not built for We're trying

912
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 1: to figure it out as it's exponentially growing and taking

913
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: us over and you know, uh, bringing out the fucking

914
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: worst of us and also bringing up good stuff as well.

915
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: So I mean, cut yourself some slack first of all

916
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: on that shore.

917
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: And it's yeah, and I mean it's something that I've

918
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: been aware of for a long time. Like I've never

919
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: really trusted my phone in that kind of sense, where

920
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: like once I got a smartphone when I was like

921
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: getting into high school, I realized how much of a

922
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: pull it has towards my attention and how much of

923
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 2: a time stuff it can be. And just like I've

924
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: just understood that, oh I'm kind of powerless. Like if

925
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: I just pull a YouTube er now, I'm about to

926
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: be here for like three hours, and right, there's kind

927
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: of no two ways about it, you know. And of

928
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 2: course it's it's something that we weren't just not to

929
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: interact with, and there's going to be a period where

930
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: we're still trying to kind of get used to it.

931
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: But still as a creative, it's something that is, especially

932
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: with social media, one of the most powerful tools to

933
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: ever exist.

934
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 3: You know.

935
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: And it's like, even drawing the example to your show,

936
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: it's like, could you imagine in the seventies when the

937
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: only real media outlets that you have were guarded by

938
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: people who had to make an investment in you and

939
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: had to like put theories of money into getting you

940
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: out there. This is something that's like you kind of

941
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 2: have to stay on the straight and narrow because ultimately

942
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: you want to make money. But now that creating is

943
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: totally free, everybody's free to make kind of whatever they want.

944
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 2: You know, it's like the therapy because yeah, it's something

945
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 2: that can only exist right now.

946
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know, m yeah, that's

947
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: a hard thing to reckon with. I think about that

948
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: a lot, right because the Internet as is a total

949
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: mind fuck that we are not our primitive animal brains

950
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: are not equipsed to you know, with you know, especially

951
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: not lots of attention on the internet because you know,

952
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: I mean most people that ever lived, they only knew

953
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: like ten people and uh, you know, now I know

954
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: like about one hundred thousand fucking people, which was never

955
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: supposed to happen. But it's but it's you're right, I mean,

956
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: there's a whole positive there's a there is a demense

957
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, optimistic and positive part of it where uh

958
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: it allows you know, independent artists and creators to form

959
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: communities and share their stuff, uh, which is a good thing.

960
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm gonna look, man, if I were you, uh,

961
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: well you're you're a musician.

962
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: Yes, sair.

963
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: Mhmm. Here's what I Here's the only thing I think

964
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: is really important is that you're making whatever music you

965
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: want to make, and you're not making music that you

966
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: think will go viral. Yeah, because nothing, I mean, nothing

967
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: will make you less fucking happy than just like trying

968
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: to feed the machine. You know. And by the way,

969
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: I've learned this, the only thing you get, the only

970
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: thing you get at of feeding the machine is that

971
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: you get to feed the machine more.

972
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: Damn fact, that's crazy. I never thought of it like that.

973
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to comprehend that fact. I mean, I

974
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: I you know, I saw all kinds of shit on

975
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: this podcast that I'm trying to actually like internalize into

976
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: my own life. But that's just where my head's at.

977
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, I think it's I think it's

978
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: really crazy. It's something that I I mean, I'm gonna

979
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you your flowers for a second if I can.

980
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: But over the past like a year and a half

981
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 2: that I've been listening to you, because I listen to

982
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: every single podcast since then. I just if I'm on

983
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: a walk or I'm on a driver or whatever, you're

984
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: the guy my man doesn't thrown you on.

985
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: You know, I really appreciate that.

986
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: I really admire the ability, or I guess, even if

987
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 2: it wasn't intentional, the amount of people that you've brought

988
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: together who have no real connection aside from being entertained

989
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: by watching somebody be empathetic to somebody else's problems. Where

990
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: I think you have a very great personality and energy

991
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 2: the way that you interact with people. But I mean,

992
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: it's just it's crazy because I think that you hear

993
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: people from all over the country and even all over

994
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: the world on this pod, you know, and it's it's

995
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: just it's so so mind bowing to think that all

996
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: this came of you just wanting to put a gecko

997
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: costume on and talking to the voice that is the Internet.

998
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: Well, uh well, thank what is your name again, Guya?

999
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: Well thanks, Guya. I appreciate that you've inspired me. I'm

1000
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: gonna go to the store and I'm gonna get some

1001
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: guava soda. That's my favorite you ever had. The Goya

1002
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: guava soda. Actually, no, you gotta go have It's very good.

1003
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: And what is it? The yeah yeahstos they're good.

1004
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: The guava ones are freaking I've never heard of the

1005
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: Goya ones. I'm gonna have to I'm not to speak

1006
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: to that.

1007
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1008
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?

1009
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: I want to say something to you first. I freaking

1010
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: wrote a song about you.

1011
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: What was the song?

1012
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 3: It's called Therapy.

1013
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: It's on Spotify.

1014
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: Oh ship, Okay, how do I find it?

1015
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: It's just look at the word therapy, get go and

1016
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: guya on Spotify and it should be you. Freaking dude,

1017
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: I've been calling for so long. I've been calling the

1018
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: show for like past like five months. Just well, I'm glad.

1019
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm glad we finally got to talk.

1020
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm it's such a blessing to be able

1021
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 2: to talk to you, brother.

1022
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: But it's a blessing that any of this if I

1023
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: I think my life has gotten beyond any any point

1024
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: that I can uh comprehend, So I don't know. Thanks

1025
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for being with me.

1026
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: Of course, man. I hope to catch you if you can't.

1027
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: CALIFORNI your date.

1028
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: On your tour well, November something, November something, I'll find you.

1029
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: Take care man, have a benid.

1030
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 2: Man never goes on the line taking your phone calls.

1031
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 3: Every night, every beacon goes to and teaching you Cloud

1032
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 3: in the mean of your life. Re