Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Thursday, March fifth, twenty seed, twenty sixth.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're just talking
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Speaker 1: Marcus Grand joined by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones. So
Speaker 1: this is this is our last show before the Frenzy.
Speaker 1: The free agent Frenzy happens Florida. You and I will
Speaker 1: be in it. You know, you and I will be
Speaker 1: doing a hits each allegedly during free agency Frenzy. We
Speaker 1: even made it onto the graphic, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't think we'd make it onto the graphic.
Speaker 2: I was excited.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, there's like fifty heads in that graphic,
Speaker 3: but I was excited to be one of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was cool, especial because I always feel like
Speaker 1: sometimes I get done dirty with like promos and stuff
Speaker 1: like I don't know, man, if you ever watch the
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live commercial set.
Speaker 2: To say it, but I know the exact commercial you're
Speaker 2: thinking of.
Speaker 1: They cherry pick quotes and they put them together and
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, just like, hey man, why'd you put
Speaker 1: those two quotes together? That makes me sound weird? Big, fast,
Speaker 1: strong guys. Apparently my wife ass. My wife laughed at
Speaker 1: that endlessly for a while. For you go on because
Speaker 1: you're you're a good morning football so you're on like
Speaker 1: before things really get going, Like you're kind of the
Speaker 1: call before the storm in the morning there. Huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some things leaked through. I mean, honestly, last year,
Speaker 2: I remember things falling through right before us getting on
Speaker 2: there at five am, and then we're reporting about it
Speaker 2: in the A block. I mean, I can't wait, man, Like,
Speaker 2: it's already some movement going on, and I feel like
Speaker 2: we're in for a good free agent's frenzy. So let's
Speaker 2: let's roll, all right.
Speaker 1: Cool, So we will finish up our run through the
Speaker 1: divisions with the AFC and NFC West, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of going through who's got what to spend and
Speaker 1: maybe some potential fits for them.
Speaker 2: But we do have quite a bit of news.
Speaker 1: That has happened since the last time we spoke to you.
Speaker 2: Starting with something that broke this very morning.
Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears have decided they have seen enough of
Speaker 1: Denniston Moore Junior, and they are sending him to the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Oh did you not know that? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's his government. We love the governments more or
Speaker 1: sitting to the Buffalo bills For what is being reported
Speaker 1: as a second round pick. It's Dj Moore and a
Speaker 1: fifth round pick going to Buffalo. A second round pick
Speaker 1: is coming back to Chicago.
Speaker 2: So Florial Josh I in theory has his receiver right.
Speaker 1: They've been looking for a number one receiver for a
Speaker 1: while for him, and it seems that they got their guy.
Speaker 1: I know, the immediate reaction on social media, because social
Speaker 1: media hates everything, is the bills overpaid.
Speaker 2: But your initial reaction to this deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care at all what people are saying
Speaker 3: about an overpaid. Look, if you want to have discussions
Speaker 3: on how DJ Moore fits and uh what he still
Speaker 3: has to provide and all of that, we could have
Speaker 3: those conversations. But like, as someone who lives and dies
Speaker 3: with this team and has watched them extremely closely, DJ
Speaker 3: Moore is going to be the best wide receiver to
Speaker 3: step on the field with Josh Allen since Stefan Diggs
Speaker 3: and I do love how it's. The conversation is like, well,
Speaker 3: DJ Moore can't play. He had a down year last year.
Speaker 3: Over the last two years. Okay, there's something did change
Speaker 3: in those two years the quarterback and he put up
Speaker 3: better numbers on like a per target basis than Roma doonsday.
Speaker 3: So is Roma doonsay washed?
Speaker 1: I mean depending who you ask. Somebody out there might.
Speaker 2: Say yes, Dad, it might be listening in. I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna play a lot of the X.
Speaker 3: That's what he did with Joe Brady in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: and twenty twenty one, which, by the way, he had
Speaker 3: a ton of success each of those two seasons, his
Speaker 3: best two year stretch in the NFL, not his best
Speaker 3: individual season, but his best two years stretch. And even
Speaker 3: last year right like, he played sixty six percent of
Speaker 3: the Stamps out why twenty eight from the slot, four
Speaker 3: percent from the backfield. He was highly rated and all
Speaker 3: three aspects went on the field. He can run the
Speaker 3: big boy routes that no one on the Bills really
Speaker 3: could last season.
Speaker 2: So now this this.
Speaker 3: Pushes Shakir to be he could play in the slot
Speaker 3: a lot and not have to be the focal point
Speaker 3: of the passing game. Same thing with Dalton Kincaid. So
Speaker 3: those now become secondary weapons. And then you have Coleman
Speaker 3: and Josh Palmer who you can move around. But my
Speaker 3: favorite part about this is DJ Moore can move all
Speaker 3: over the field, which means it's not going to be
Speaker 3: like last season where key On Coleman was the X
Speaker 3: and Shakir was in the slot and Palmer was the
Speaker 3: why and there was really no moving these guys around.
Speaker 3: Now all of them are versatile and they could all
Speaker 3: kind of move around the field. You could use a
Speaker 3: lot of motion and and as a deep bault, right,
Speaker 3: DJ Moore rated better last year than any one on
Speaker 3: the Bills, So I think naturally DJ Moore is going
Speaker 3: to get a bump because it's a huge quarterback upgrade,
Speaker 3: less target competition, but I also think everyone else, like
Speaker 3: from a Bills fan standpoint, Yeah, maybe this isn't aj
Speaker 3: Brown and that was like the Crown Jewel, but this
Speaker 3: is still a big upgrade. And I think for the
Speaker 3: next two years he's gonna be Josh Allen's go to
Speaker 3: number one option.
Speaker 1: So this does actually beg a couple of questions. I mean,
Speaker 1: first off, I think one DJ Moore going to the Bills,
Speaker 1: it sort of creates a separation, right, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know the Bears were completely happy with what they've gotten
Speaker 1: out of Dj Moore. It felt like Ben Johnson was
Speaker 1: struggling to find ways to use him. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: they were trying to put him in the backfield and
Speaker 1: have him run routes there just to try to get
Speaker 1: him open. It seemed like DJ Moore at times was
Speaker 1: frustrated with the way things were going. Maybe less so
Speaker 1: this past year, but certainly the stories a narrative of
Speaker 1: him and his body language and that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: That was a story. So now he gets to a
Speaker 1: place with a fresh start. He certainly doesn't lose anything
Speaker 1: in quarterback, probably gains a little bit in terms of
Speaker 1: what he's getting at quarterback in Josh Allen, and he
Speaker 1: goes to a place where he is, in my mind,
Speaker 1: the undisputed top target in the offense. And that was
Speaker 1: not a thing you could say in Chicago last year,
Speaker 1: whether it was Romo Dunes early in the year, it
Speaker 1: was Colston Loveland later in the year, Djbore was always
Speaker 1: battling with somebody for targets. So, now that we've kind
Speaker 1: of cleared the deck in that regard the Kwan, how
Speaker 1: far are you pushing him up the draft board?
Speaker 2: Third round? There you spend a second round pick on
Speaker 2: DJ Moore, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think third round seems viable with the
Speaker 1: situation he's in.
Speaker 2: Is that too high? Is that too low? Is somebody
Speaker 2: gott to reach for him in the second I like
Speaker 2: the third round, Like I could see myself taking him
Speaker 2: on the board there and again he'll be a wide
Speaker 2: receiver too in the offense with an elite quarterback. Finally
Speaker 2: that we haven't seen DJ more have this with him,
Speaker 2: and I feel like at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: we're getting somebody that's versatile, that can win on all
Speaker 2: three levels. I mean, God, you're getting Josh Allen's rocket
Speaker 2: arm with somebody that can separate vertically. Like this is
Speaker 2: DJ's more dream spot. Again, I would have been happy
Speaker 2: if it was aj Brown, but again it wasn't. I
Speaker 2: would have been happy if it was Alec Pierce. But
Speaker 2: this is a huge difference maker for DJ Moore in Buffalo,
Speaker 2: where this elevates him to wide receiver one production once
Speaker 2: again and again having the familiarity with Joe Brady because
Speaker 2: they spent time in Carolina in twenty and twenty one.
Speaker 2: This is not going to be something like he has
Speaker 2: to learn an entire new offense. This is something that
Speaker 2: he was very productive in back to back seasons. He
Speaker 2: had a thousand yards over seventy yards from scrimmage in
Speaker 2: back to back seasons with Joe Brady. So it's like
Speaker 2: we're getting somebody that already is going to be in
Speaker 2: a situation that is going to be comfortable, going to
Speaker 2: be the obvious one where the gap between him and
Speaker 2: the rest of the team is far far, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, I love Klos Shakir, He's my guy.
Speaker 2: He still remains as Josh Allen's most reliable target. But
Speaker 2: this is going to be what's going to get the
Speaker 2: Bills over to helme and possibly get to the big dance,
Speaker 2: because again, taking them off the board in the third round,
Speaker 2: we got to understand who's probably going to be there.
Speaker 2: The tet Row McMillan's of the world are probably going
Speaker 2: to be there, or these rookies that are going to
Speaker 2: be coming off the draft board earlier than they should be.
Speaker 2: So I like Dj Moore in terms of what he
Speaker 2: brings to the table and talent being that he has
Speaker 2: an elite quarterback throwing him the ball. How can you
Speaker 2: not like that or even try to take a shot
Speaker 2: at that as somebody that's probably going to be on
Speaker 2: your team as a wide receiver too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I okay, you mentioned Tech McMillan. You're on
Speaker 1: the board. You're on the clock. Tech McMillan and DJ
Speaker 1: Moore are there. Who would you guys rather have Dj? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you flip their quarterbacks, I would go the
Speaker 2: other way.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: That's what it comes down to.
Speaker 1: No, that's a hundred percent.
Speaker 3: While we're on this trade, I just want to real quick,
Speaker 3: Luther Burden is absolutely gone.
Speaker 2: I would be a.
Speaker 1: Very next question. Like I feel like Luthor Burden. If
Speaker 1: you didn't you weren't one of the sikos who were
Speaker 1: doing Bestball drafts right after the Super Bowl and you
Speaker 1: didn't get Luther Burden, I feel like now the price
Speaker 1: is going to be so insane, Like that's price.
Speaker 2: Imagine it's not today's price. He so you guys like I.
Speaker 3: Loved him, like I was pounding the table when when
Speaker 3: he was a polarizing prospect too, like like people had
Speaker 3: strong takes each way. I loved the kid, But I
Speaker 3: was digging into his stats a little bit this morning.
Speaker 3: He the highest passer rating when targeted on the Bears
Speaker 3: when lined up out wide, lined up in the slot,
Speaker 3: and on deep targets, and he led the Bears in
Speaker 3: yards per target, yards per route, yack per catch, and
Speaker 3: catch rate. Like I understand catch rate is probably because
Speaker 3: his air yards were pretty low. But I mean he
Speaker 3: could win downfield, he could win after the catch, he
Speaker 3: could win out wide, he could win in the slot.
Speaker 3: And Ben Johnson targeted this guy knowing they had the
Speaker 3: other receivers there, so he's gonna get a lot of hype.
Speaker 2: I'm just wanting to go I'm going to be one
Speaker 2: of the people doing the hyping.
Speaker 1: I'm just the draft price on Luther Burden is going
Speaker 1: to get out of control. What will happen is right now,
Speaker 1: especially through March into April, it's going to be really,
Speaker 1: really insane. It'll start to calm down a little bit
Speaker 1: because again we'll wake up on a random day in
Speaker 1: May and some other guys getting hyped up and getting
Speaker 1: pushed up the board. But man, it's going to go
Speaker 1: crazy on Luther Burden.
Speaker 2: I mean him, Colston Lovelin, you're gonna have to pay up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Loveland is probably the tight end three. I'd imagine I
Speaker 2: mean I would imagine now, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: I think he absolutely is at this point.
Speaker 2: And I again totally understand why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm gonna shuffle around our rundown here a
Speaker 1: little bit, just because we're talking wide receivers at this point.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Stefan Diggs being the best receiver that Josh
Speaker 1: Allen has had during his ten year.
Speaker 2: He's a free agent.
Speaker 1: The Patriots have moved on from him after one season,
Speaker 1: so he is out there. He's also facing some legal issues,
Speaker 1: so we don't know what the resolution to that is
Speaker 1: going to be. I mean, somebody takes a chance on
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs, right the Jets, I feel like the you know,
Speaker 1: the Anakin Skywalker pad may meme, somebody takes a chance
Speaker 1: on him, right right.
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's some all field issues that he
Speaker 2: obviously has to deal with, and I think that a
Speaker 2: team will probably just wait it out until that's resultd
Speaker 2: But honestly, like when we talk about teams that don't
Speaker 2: necessarily have the weapons, like the Jets, Raiders, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera, like who needs a wide receiver? A veteran
Speaker 2: he may be on his way to the retirement home
Speaker 2: he might be a Titan, he might be a chief. Hell,
Speaker 2: you might be a raven. I don't know, but I
Speaker 2: do feel like you know, now it's going to be
Speaker 2: quiet waters for Stefan Diggs until you know, he deals
Speaker 2: with what he has to deal with all field, So
Speaker 2: who knows. Don't think that he's going to be fantasy
Speaker 2: relevant this year. He won't find me taking him off
Speaker 2: the board. But again we see how that falls out.
Speaker 1: The Ravens would be interesting only in the senses it
Speaker 1: gets him back home in the state of Maryland. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's yeah.
Speaker 3: I can see him going there, and then next year
Speaker 3: he'll be somewhere else, and then the year after he'll
Speaker 3: be somewhere else.
Speaker 2: His couch, his couch and his couch.
Speaker 3: There's a reason why, right, Like in the last three years,
Speaker 3: three different like he could still play, but teams are
Speaker 3: moving on, which I think tells you a lot about
Speaker 3: the behind the scenes and.
Speaker 1: Stuff, right yeah. I mean, at some point when you're you're,
Speaker 1: the chaos that you bring with you starts to you know,
Speaker 1: even out or exceed the production, then it's easy for
Speaker 1: teams to move on. Speaking a wish and I means
Speaker 1: to put this in the Rundown, and I forgot. We
Speaker 1: are two days away from the seventh year anniversary of
Speaker 1: maybe the greatest fifteen minutes in sports Twitter history, the
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or so in which Antonio Brown was a
Speaker 1: Buffalo bill.
Speaker 2: I remember that night vivid.
Speaker 1: March seventh, twenty nineteen was the day which that happened.
Speaker 1: I remember it hit fairly late on the West coast.
Speaker 1: I mean it was probably nine to ten o'clock on
Speaker 1: the West coast when that happened. The trade went down,
Speaker 1: everybody went nuts, and then you know, less than half
Speaker 1: an hour later, the reports are Antonio saying I'm not
Speaker 1: going to Buffalo the deal with all. Yeah, So the
Speaker 1: anniversary of that hits on Saturday. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: just want to mention that. That's all other interesting wide
Speaker 1: receiver news news ish. The Eagles still sort of engaging
Speaker 1: in AJ Brown trade talks. They say they want a
Speaker 1: first rounder and more for AJ Brown. Look, I get it,
Speaker 1: if you are the Eagles, you don't need the trade
Speaker 1: AJ Brown. If somebody is going to pony up and
Speaker 1: give you the moon for him, then sure you make
Speaker 1: you make that deal. But in the meantime, you're fine
Speaker 1: holding on to him. He's still a very good, talented receiver.
Speaker 1: So I mean saying all of that, Florida, do you
Speaker 1: believe that A. J. Brown's actually gonna get traded this offseason?
Speaker 3: I think the DJ Moore trade has a big impact
Speaker 3: on it because if you're getting a second round pick.
Speaker 2: For DJ Moore, and I know when the Eagles were.
Speaker 3: Like, we want a first plus, people were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I want a lot of things, but like, no, they
Speaker 3: taste that. It'll be like DJ Moore went for a second.
Speaker 3: You guys know, I love AJ Brown. I think he
Speaker 3: was one of the best wide receivers in the league.
Speaker 2: So there are I do think there are.
Speaker 3: A lot of teams out there with that would pay
Speaker 3: that price to get AJ Well maybe not a lot,
Speaker 3: but there's a few. But yeah, this is a tough
Speaker 3: one to figure out because on one hand, like the
Speaker 3: Titans make a ton of sense, but they're not going
Speaker 3: to get up the fourth overall pick to go and
Speaker 3: get him.
Speaker 2: The Bills I think were the one that.
Speaker 3: The Eagles were kind of banking on potentially being the
Speaker 3: team to move him to. But yeah, if you're end
Speaker 3: up going into the season with AJ Brown, you're completely
Speaker 3: happy as an Eagles. In fact, I would be hoping
Speaker 3: for that if I was an Eagles fan, because you're
Speaker 3: better with AJ.
Speaker 2: Brown than without him.
Speaker 3: I know how he has excelled at drafting, but you're
Speaker 3: not drafting in AJ Brown, and at least not for
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also have seen a lot of chatter about
Speaker 1: people expecting this to be a huge breakout year for
Speaker 1: Devonte Smith even if AJ Brown stays around. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of something to maybe think about. Who knows, sure,
Speaker 1: that's another conversation for another time. I would take a
Speaker 1: quick break, come back on a few more news headlines,
Speaker 1: and we'll get into our AFC West NFC West previews.
Speaker 1: That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. A couple
Speaker 1: more news items down in Atlanta. The Falcons are parting
Speaker 1: ways with Darnell Mooney. I don't know, que it feels
Speaker 1: like Mooney kind of got did dirty a little bit.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we talked about this he.
Speaker 1: Had with a broken collarbone that that was never disclosed,
Speaker 1: and then everybody, you know, the fans looked at it
Speaker 1: like why isn' Darnell Mooney producing?
Speaker 2: The Falcons seem to be like, why is it Darnell
Speaker 2: Mooney producing and then there's.
Speaker 1: Like somebody leaked out like, oh, by the way, he
Speaker 1: broke his collarbone in the preseason, so the then suddenly
Speaker 1: the light one. I was like, oh, that's why Darnell
Speaker 1: Muley is not producing, and now they're moving on from him.
Speaker 1: I would think at I think he's a twenty eight
Speaker 1: twenty nine at the oldest has been productive. I would
Speaker 1: think out que there's gonna be a market for Darnell
Speaker 1: Moody out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a home for him. I think honestly, when
Speaker 2: we think about Darnall Mooney, it goes back to Chicago
Speaker 2: of where like he was forced to be a one
Speaker 2: at one point and then he showed that he could
Speaker 2: be a solid two in Atlanta, and I think, you know,
Speaker 2: this past season was kind of unfair trying to like
Speaker 2: grade him off of that being then he was banged up.
Speaker 2: So I think there's plenty of teams that we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about today where donoh Moodey could still be
Speaker 2: serviceable and go out there and contribute to an offense.
Speaker 2: Like I do think at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it's all of like how much is that price going
Speaker 2: to be for him. I don't think you're going to
Speaker 2: be breaking the bank for him, but a one year
Speaker 2: deal man, just have money go out there, you know,
Speaker 2: B or two or have rotational three. I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: I mean la, I mean why not. I'm happy with
Speaker 2: darna in the Mooney in terms of what he's able
Speaker 2: to contribute to the field. Again, nobody is the Rams.
Speaker 2: Are the Chargers the Rams, We don't have knowledge San
Speaker 2: Diego Chargers, man, but they can share the stadium. But anyway,
Speaker 2: we looking at Darnau Mooney.
Speaker 1: Unless your son, you're saying that.
Speaker 2: It's my son's fault, shout out the mason, it's his fault.
Speaker 2: But I do think at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: when we think about Darnau Mooney, I always go back
Speaker 2: to him and Kirk Cousins and connecting deep downfield and
Speaker 2: being one of the guys that we were really surprised
Speaker 2: like for a couple of weeks for fantasy, like Yo,
Speaker 2: Darnam Money's going out there putting up some points, getting
Speaker 2: them off the waiver wire. Like I think Darnah Mooney
Speaker 2: still has something in the tank.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Curiously, where he goes, somebody's going to sign him
Speaker 1: and he's depending on the situation. Definitely gonna have some
Speaker 1: later round fantasy values. Always that guy that shows up
Speaker 1: every few weeks of the year where you're kind of
Speaker 1: glad that you threw him in a flex spot or something.
Speaker 1: So I think that's gonna.
Speaker 2: We're best ball. You're glad that you drafted him. The
Speaker 2: Falcons wide receiver room, though, behind Drake London is absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 2: Oh it's bleak, David Sills, baby, it is absolutely that's gonna.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get a.
Speaker 1: Ton of targets. I mean, no, you're you're You're probably
Speaker 1: not wrong. Kevin Sefanski will work something out for him.
Speaker 1: A couple of franchise slash transition tag updates. The Colts
Speaker 1: do apply the transition tag to Daniel Jones, so he
Speaker 1: is not going anywhere. He'll be back in Indianapolis, which
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's surprised by that. I think the
Speaker 1: only question was whether he got tagged or whether they,
Speaker 1: you know, sign him to a new deal.
Speaker 2: No team is going to match that tag. Nobody's going
Speaker 2: to try.
Speaker 1: No, nobody that. I just have a question, y'all, can
Speaker 1: we stop disrespecting Michael Pittman, because every we talk about
Speaker 1: the Colts. You guys are all like Alec Pierce and
Speaker 1: I sort of and I get it. But when Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones was healthy, even before he started Daniel jonesing before
Speaker 1: the injury, Michael Pittman was the guy he targeted the most.
Speaker 1: And I know the counting stats favor Alec Pierce, but
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at it, and Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: was hitting the deep ball at really what I think
Speaker 1: is is an unsustainable rate, right, I mean he was.
Speaker 1: He was completing passes to Alec Pierce, who's averaging like
Speaker 1: twenty one yards of catch, completing passes to him at
Speaker 1: like ten percent over expectation. I just don't buy that
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones can keep doing that. Whereas Michael Pittman, I
Speaker 1: know it's not sexy, but it's steady. He's got a
Speaker 1: decent catch rate. He was more of a touchdown scorer
Speaker 1: than Alec Pierce was. Like, I just want you all
Speaker 1: to put some respect on Michael Pittman's name.
Speaker 2: Please. Pittman is good. I that's it does period good.
Speaker 2: Natalie is not excellent, He's not above tears.
Speaker 3: Alex Pearce isn't that Alec Pierce, though, has an elite trait.
Speaker 3: I think that is why Daniel Jones was hitting having
Speaker 3: such success on the deep ball, because Alec Pearce is one,
Speaker 3: like is truly one of the best field stretchers in
Speaker 3: my opinion.
Speaker 2: The thing about Pittman.
Speaker 3: Is I kind of hate the way they use him
Speaker 3: because they don't give him any like, like, maybe if
Speaker 3: Alec Pierce leaves, which I'm.
Speaker 2: Starting to think is very much so the key.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He was talking yesterday on Kay Adams Show about all
Speaker 3: the different landing spots he could see himself playing for
Speaker 3: and stuff and uh saying that he wants more targets
Speaker 3: and so maybe they start using Michael Pittman more downfield
Speaker 3: if Alec Pierce is gone, and I think Pittman can
Speaker 3: bounce back and kind of get.
Speaker 2: Back to what he used to be. But that's the
Speaker 2: thing with Pittman is like he's good, he's I don't know.
Speaker 3: He excels at like contested catching the intermediate portion of
Speaker 3: the field, but like, I don't know, I also just
Speaker 3: don't really love Daniel Jes so like I I'm probably
Speaker 3: not really going to be I mean, look, if Pittman
Speaker 3: continues to be cheap, then get me on board. But
Speaker 3: if he's going as like a wide receiver three, there'll
Speaker 3: probably be other names in that area that I could
Speaker 3: talk myself into, more.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen to answer to this question. If Ale
Speaker 2: Pierce Leeves is Josh Downs, and that's really what it is,
Speaker 2: it's Josh.
Speaker 1: Air yards per target, Josh Night, Josh Downs, mister extended.
Speaker 2: Handoff, Josh Downs. If you're frustrated of how they've used
Speaker 2: wide receivers, Josh Downs needs to be more frustrated than
Speaker 2: a Michael Pittman, because Pittman, we've seen these last couple
Speaker 2: of years be utilized in very different you know, situations
Speaker 2: as a deep ball guy, as an intermediate guy, as
Speaker 2: the X, as the Z, as a guy you put
Speaker 2: in motion. We have seen it all and he's just good.
Speaker 2: He's nothing above that. And when we look at Josh
Speaker 2: Downs the way he can provide to a Daniel Jones,
Speaker 2: a guy that can operate out of a slot and
Speaker 2: out wide and when underneath and separate, that's everything Josh
Speaker 2: Downs is and that's all my hype was before this
Speaker 2: season even started about Josh Downs being utilized more in
Speaker 2: operating as a wide receiver too, but again, when you
Speaker 2: have it Alec Peers, who's elite at what he does,
Speaker 2: and I think you can't really beat that. So the
Speaker 2: gap between Alec Pearce and Josh Downs is there. But
Speaker 2: when we look at Pittman, Josh Downs when he was healthy,
Speaker 2: when he was bowling those first six to eight weeks,
Speaker 2: he was out performing Michael Pittman. He was doing things
Speaker 2: that Michael Pittman wasn't able to do in his role.
Speaker 2: So I look at this is if Alec Pearce leaves,
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in a Michael Pittman, I'm not interested
Speaker 2: in anybody else other than you know, Josh Downs that
Speaker 2: would throw a late round dart on and he ends
Speaker 2: up smashing his ADP.
Speaker 1: That feels like the same argument of like let's put
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback in Like you don't know he had a
Speaker 1: good preseas I knew what I knew. You want to
Speaker 1: fix your lifts to say Riley Leonard, you were going
Speaker 1: to fix your mouth to say Riley Leonard, I.
Speaker 2: Knew like you did. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't I think Josh, like you said, a late
Speaker 3: round dart throw. Sure, I think I'll outperform that I
Speaker 3: think he's better than he gets credit for. But I
Speaker 3: don't think he's a one by any like I think
Speaker 3: Pittman is is better than Downs.
Speaker 2: No, he will never be labeled as a one, treated
Speaker 2: as a one, but he will be their most reliable
Speaker 2: wide receiver to where he'll be getting you the fantasy
Speaker 2: relevant weeks versus the up and down roller coaster that
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman has put his in since his back injury.
Speaker 1: So I think I think Josh Downs is more of
Speaker 1: the roller coaster in that one.
Speaker 2: The floor is very low. It's his usage one, and
Speaker 2: then the injury kind of put a bump in that
Speaker 2: where he started ramping up. And again, you gotta stay healthy.
Speaker 2: That's what it ultimately comes down to at the end
Speaker 2: of the day.
Speaker 1: Well, that's fair. I just want to go to respect
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman more. That's all.
Speaker 2: Respect.
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard. No, that's not gonna happen. The Seahawks, befort
Speaker 1: ly are not going to use a franchise tag on
Speaker 1: Super Bowl sixty. MVP Kenneth Walker that's actually his full name. Now,
Speaker 1: from from now until the eternity, he's going to be
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MV Super Bowl sixty Kith Walker the third.
Speaker 2: Cloria with Seattle really let him walk? Would they really
Speaker 2: move on?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think the fact that they didn't tag him kind
Speaker 3: of indicates that, because I think if they were going
Speaker 3: to keep him, they would have tagged him just to
Speaker 3: kind of cover. They got a lot of players up
Speaker 3: in the air this year. And as much as I
Speaker 3: like Kenneth Walker, and I know I'm not alone on
Speaker 3: this pod, but let's not forget, they didn't really use
Speaker 3: him like they did in the Super Bowl and in
Speaker 3: the NFC until Sharbonay got hurt and he was a
Speaker 3: committee guy with them, and he's gonna get paid a
Speaker 3: lot now, So I think they're going to pick other
Speaker 3: positions and other players that their potentially could lose to
Speaker 3: prioritize paying before a Kenneth Walker.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I expect Walker to be in a new
Speaker 2: uniform next year.
Speaker 3: I think the Chiefs are one that would make a
Speaker 3: whole lot of sense.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he I just.
Speaker 3: Want I think a breakup, though, could be a good thing,
Speaker 3: because clearly Seattle didn't view him as work course every
Speaker 3: down kind of running back. Let him go somewhere that
Speaker 3: does view him as that and gets him involved in
Speaker 3: the passing game.
Speaker 2: Lets him be used near the.
Speaker 3: Goal line, because last year, I think the playoff run
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl is putting glass like rose colored
Speaker 3: glasses on it.
Speaker 2: Last season was extremely.
Speaker 3: Frustrating for Kenneth Walker fantasy wise, and I was writing
Speaker 3: him up weekly as sits at one.
Speaker 2: Point in the year, and there it was like week.
Speaker 3: Eleven or something where I was like, Sharboney is averaging
Speaker 3: more Fantasy points per game and has outscored him more
Speaker 3: weeks than not.
Speaker 2: It was just so frustrating the way he was.
Speaker 3: Being used that while I think we all are gonna
Speaker 3: remember the most recent thing because it's what happened.
Speaker 2: But this could be a good thing for Kenneth Walker
Speaker 2: in my opinion, But I.
Speaker 1: Look at it as not just the most recent thing,
Speaker 1: but also, yeah, they used him a lot more when
Speaker 1: there was no Zach Sharboney.
Speaker 2: There's not gonna be any Zach Scharboney next year.
Speaker 1: At least for a long part of it.
Speaker 2: They'll bring in some sort of bully back.
Speaker 1: You know there's gonna be I don't expect the Seazax
Speaker 1: Charbonnay in twenty twenty six. If we do, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be late in twenty twenty six, So yeah, I don't know. Again,
Speaker 1: I just talk about fake football for a living. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about the Seahawks in just a little bit as
Speaker 1: we get through our AFC and NFC West previews, which
Speaker 1: we will start right after this break. So stick around
Speaker 1: for more of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, diving into
Speaker 1: the American Football Conference West as we start getting ready
Speaker 1: for free agency, which hits in Let's see do the
Speaker 1: math one, one, two, three, four, five, six sleeps until
Speaker 1: it actually opens, four sleeps until we can start legally
Speaker 1: tampering with players. That's when it all happens, in reverse
Speaker 1: order of finish in the division last year, the Raiders,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Chargers, and the Broncos. The Raiders need
Speaker 1: a lot of things. Fortunately, they have a lot of
Speaker 1: money to spend. They have about eighty five and twenty
Speaker 1: seven million dollars to spend, and I guess you know,
Speaker 1: if maybe Mark Davis hits on that table, they can
Speaker 1: spend a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm pretty sure he's not allowed to do that, but.
Speaker 1: Well why not. I mean, if he's there on his
Speaker 1: own time, I'm going by the rules and regulations that
Speaker 1: we have to read and sign every year. He would
Speaker 1: not be in a sports book. He would be on
Speaker 1: his own personal time, right. I mean if he just
Speaker 1: decided to put eighty five point seven million dollars on
Speaker 1: black and it hit right, like, yeah, gee, i'd it's
Speaker 1: the Raiders though, right, Like they're silver and black. You
Speaker 1: can't put it all right. I get the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: your biggest rival. You can't put it on red. Yeah
Speaker 1: that is, But also, you know, I guess in the
Speaker 1: rules of the salary cap it probably doesn't quite work
Speaker 1: that way, but in my head, that's how it works.
Speaker 1: Their needs involve quarterback, wide receiver, offensive line. Quarterback. We
Speaker 1: are pretty sure is going to solve itself with the
Speaker 1: very first pick in the draft when they take Fernando Mendoza.
Speaker 1: So next up is wide receiver. We talked about Darnell Mooney.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing that sort of pops into my head.
Speaker 1: I know he's an older guy, but Darnell Mooney seems
Speaker 1: to fit right.
Speaker 2: But they already have a Darnell Mooney there. They have
Speaker 2: Trey Tucker, they have a Deontay Thornton. They already have
Speaker 2: these field stretchers. So it's like I would hate for
Speaker 2: him to go there just to be another face in
Speaker 2: the crowd. But I mean a guy needs to get
Speaker 2: paid on the table.
Speaker 1: So then if that's the case, then then who does
Speaker 1: fit there? Right? If they have too many field stretchers,
Speaker 1: that that takes out your your boy, Alec Pierce. You know,
Speaker 1: there's no Darnell Mooney. They're definitely not gonna they can
Speaker 1: try to spin from my gas from be like nah
Speaker 1: doing that.
Speaker 2: I was thinking Keenan Allen. I mean again, we all
Speaker 2: want him the ride into Sunset to be a Charger,
Speaker 2: but we've already seen him in another jersey in Chicago.
Speaker 2: I mean why not. I think at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, the Chargers did need to figure out what
Speaker 2: they're going to be doing, you know what they're young developing,
Speaker 2: you know, wide receivers. I think if they move on
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen in Vegas, why not.
Speaker 1: Give me an excuse to go dig out that old
Speaker 1: photo of him wearing a Raiders hat when he first
Speaker 1: got drafted.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, oh do.
Speaker 1: You remember that? Yeah, when he first got drafted by
Speaker 1: the Charger, somebody Doug it was like a picture of
Speaker 1: him and I don't know if he's in high school
Speaker 1: or like early college. But yeah, it's like him, you know,
Speaker 1: drinking a like an in and out shake, wearing a
Speaker 1: Raiders hat or something.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I've never seen that. I think Juwan Jennings
Speaker 2: would be a really good fit there as well.
Speaker 3: That's interesting, a chain mover, possessions type of receiver who
Speaker 3: is clearly trying to get the biggest back possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that. H Yeah, Just you know,
Speaker 1: don't again until they figure out one quarterback, which again
Speaker 1: I think they will have figured out or at least
Speaker 1: they'll have an idea about in the draft, and the
Speaker 1: offensive line. I mean that to me is maybe the
Speaker 1: biggest thing.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a mistake. I'm already operating as if Mendoz
Speaker 2: is their quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think most people are. Yeah, I think most a
Speaker 1: are doing that as you should.
Speaker 3: You got to get him a reliable one. You know,
Speaker 3: you have Bowers there. But I agree with OQ. You
Speaker 3: have a field stretcher in Tucker. You want to get
Speaker 3: a possession guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I guess that's that's kind of what
Speaker 1: it is. How interested could be in drafting a Raiders receiver.
Speaker 1: I mean they're all late round kind of not very.
Speaker 2: No, I mean dark thorough, sure, why not trade Tucker
Speaker 2: was serviceable for a couple of weeks, but not every
Speaker 2: week guy. He's Yeah, he's a better and bestball guy
Speaker 2: in my opinion. Remember he exploded in like week three
Speaker 2: or four. It was very early in the season and
Speaker 2: nobody had him.
Speaker 1: That was the last that we heard from from us.
Speaker 1: How it works for most of the year. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's just for me. There's a lot going on
Speaker 1: with the Raiders, at least a lot needs to be
Speaker 1: going on with the Raiders, but it really starts with
Speaker 1: getting the offensive line fixed. Those those five guys were, again,
Speaker 1: someone who's a lot funnier than I said that the
Speaker 1: Raiders offensive line was sort of like the paper that
Speaker 1: you run through at the tape that you run through
Speaker 1: at the end of a marathon.
Speaker 3: Aren't bad, you know, like you just gotta be able
Speaker 3: to to keep the quarterback upright and create running lanes And.
Speaker 1: Said, I know this is necessarily the point of the discussion.
Speaker 1: Ashton jenc how highre you drafting him this year? With
Speaker 1: click qubiak, it doesn't make it interesting. He kind of
Speaker 1: moves up.
Speaker 2: I just feel like that old line is such a
Speaker 2: huge red flag that we ignored last year, and we
Speaker 2: kind of saw the outcome of that. But I think
Speaker 2: the second round is not a bad place where he
Speaker 2: goes off the board. I can understand why I would
Speaker 2: take him in the second round.
Speaker 1: We're over that first round fever with him right like,
Speaker 1: that's no, yeah.
Speaker 2: I can't do it because you got James cookoo's moving
Speaker 2: up in the first round now, and like we have
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry who's still in that conversation, Like these are
Speaker 2: the backing in the first round, guys that I much
Speaker 2: rather have than Ashing Genty. To be honest, if.
Speaker 3: They use a lot of that cap though and bring
Speaker 3: in like it's gonna depend on that old line, because
Speaker 3: if they use that money to just like completely rebuild
Speaker 3: that old line, then I think you could be cooking
Speaker 3: with fire there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I was curious kind of how we're
Speaker 1: feeling about him.
Speaker 2: But I do agree.
Speaker 1: I think round two the Chiefs right now about eight
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars over the cap. Although you
Speaker 1: know I wrote that down before the trade with the
Speaker 1: Chiefs sending McDuffie to the Rams or a haul of
Speaker 1: draft picks. Let's sneed back on his FM picks deal again.
Speaker 2: And see do we trust so?
Speaker 1: I again the eight point six million dollars over was
Speaker 1: before that I should probably go back and readjust. But
Speaker 1: either way, they're not gonna have a ton of money
Speaker 1: to spend. I think we can sort of agree on
Speaker 1: that they need a running back. They need they need
Speaker 1: an actual primo level wide receiver, not this collection of
Speaker 1: sort of you know, it's like they got a bunch
Speaker 1: of clones right now, right they do oerbolts like Avengers,
Speaker 1: A bunch of guys who are fast, not necessarily big,
Speaker 1: all kind of do a little bit of the same thing.
Speaker 1: Don't necessarily do any of them to an elite level.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what it is. I don't know about
Speaker 1: you guys, though, I think despite Patrick Mahomes saying he's
Speaker 1: working out and he's rehabbing and he's trying to be
Speaker 1: there for for week one, this feels like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to say, a punt year, but kind of a
Speaker 1: rebuild year. Right. It's even if Mahomes his back, it's
Speaker 1: get him strong and healthy again, fix the flaws, fix
Speaker 1: the holes. And I think for me, the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: more of a twenty twenty seventeen. But I'm curious as
Speaker 1: to like where they where they go to fill some
Speaker 1: of those holes, and if they do it in a
Speaker 1: free agency.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm falling for it. You know,
Speaker 2: like what we thought that when they got rid of Tyreek.
Speaker 3: We thought that numerous times with the Chiefs before, and
Speaker 3: they always find a way. And they still have all
Speaker 3: their usual cast of characters there that I think make
Speaker 3: them special, from the GM to the head coach, to
Speaker 3: the to the the enemy is back to spags like
Speaker 3: they got the band back together. I understand you're I
Speaker 3: was thinking about this the other day. I was like,
Speaker 3: has Mahomes won his last Super Bowl? Like, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to say that, but the Chiefs are going like
Speaker 3: remember Tom Brady had to like his second three peat
Speaker 3: or not threepeat. His second run of three rings with
Speaker 3: the Patriots was a completely different group of people and stuff.
Speaker 3: So the Chiefs are kind of in that, and we
Speaker 3: saw Aaron Rodgers go through it, like because quarterbacks naturally
Speaker 3: play the longest, so you have to change everything around them.
Speaker 3: I get the concerns, Marcus, and I don't think they
Speaker 3: should be viewed as like the favorite.
Speaker 2: Coming in, but I'm also not counting them out. There's
Speaker 2: two things here. One is Travis Kelsey playing? Two what
Speaker 2: are they doing with the ninth pick?
Speaker 1: It seems like she is. The longer this drags out,
Speaker 1: the more I think he comes back to play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I think that's the biggest question mark, Like
Speaker 2: is he playing? And then what are they doing with
Speaker 2: the ninth pick? Like that wall determine everything else will
Speaker 2: fall online if we're believing in the Chiefs again, but
Speaker 2: like right now, it's like updated cap by the way,
Speaker 2: twenty four million that they have right now after to McDuffie,
Speaker 2: Trader ask for her over thecap dot com. But at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's like, I don't feel
Speaker 2: like I'm drafting any wide receiver from the Chiefs this year.
Speaker 2: I mean, Rashid, you know, Rice seems like, you know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of all field distractions again as well,
Speaker 2: we don't know how that's gonna unfold. And at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, Xavier Worthy, he's so one trick pony.
Speaker 2: We haven't seen much fantasy relevance and consistency in him.
Speaker 2: So who else is there to really take off the
Speaker 2: board for a chief Because again Patrick Mahomes. They say
Speaker 2: he's eyeing Week one. Who knows if he's there week one. Man,
Speaker 2: he is built in a lab.
Speaker 1: Differently, I mean, look, you know he's he's got access
Speaker 1: to better healthcare than the three of us.
Speaker 2: I still think he's going to be out there week one.
Speaker 2: That would be amazing. I don't think he's going to
Speaker 2: be running as much as he did this last season,
Speaker 2: but he's no. If he's ready for a Week one,
Speaker 2: that is amazing.
Speaker 3: You can, I think at the quarterback position, you could
Speaker 3: hide it easier than in any other people.
Speaker 2: You can put him in the.
Speaker 3: Gun if you want, you tell him not to run,
Speaker 3: you get rid of the ball out of his hands
Speaker 3: very quickly. And I just I think he's gonna be
Speaker 3: That's nine months too, which is about the period it
Speaker 3: takes to recover.
Speaker 1: And if they can do something to patch up the
Speaker 1: running back situation, then that lessons his need to run.
Speaker 1: He ran a lot last year because they just couldn't
Speaker 1: run the ball. Remember we kept talking about on this show,
Speaker 1: how many weeks have we talked about Patrick Mahomes was
Speaker 1: Kansas City's leading rusher. It wasn't until I think late
Speaker 1: in the year that Kareem Hunt finally passed him in
Speaker 1: Russias like forced.
Speaker 3: I did go on insiders yesterday and I made a
Speaker 3: case for not running off Isaiah Pacheco, and that case
Speaker 3: was the Chiefs O line because he was.
Speaker 2: On a per touch basis still their best running back.
Speaker 3: I just think, if I'm the Chiefs this year, my
Speaker 3: focus is on improving that offensive line, like it's been
Speaker 3: brutal now for the last couple of years, and it's
Speaker 3: been holding them back.
Speaker 1: Always. I come back to this, right because one of
Speaker 1: the needs is wide receiver, and for years we hammered
Speaker 1: the paid Streets and Bill Belichick for being bad at
Speaker 1: drafting wide receivers, and the Chiefs have been bad at
Speaker 1: drafting wide receivers. Just let's go back twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Past year, they drafted Jalen Royals in the fourth round.
Speaker 1: All right, Oney is the fourth round guy, so the
Speaker 1: expectations sort of lower there, but it's also one year,
Speaker 1: so whatever twenty twenty four is if you're worthy of
Speaker 1: first round pick. So far not great. Twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: Rashi Rice round two talented guy, dan't stay on the
Speaker 1: field for various reasons.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two Sky Moore. Yeah, ooh, there's her name.
Speaker 1: Twenty I mean, look, Sky Moore is a good punt returner.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what he's got going for him right now.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one, Cornell Powell in the fifth round out
Speaker 1: of the league. I'm twenty nineteen second round me Coole Hardman,
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, sixth round, Tremont Smith twenty seventeen, ja hu
Speaker 1: Chesson in the fourth round, not in the league. Twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen round, fourth round pick on DeMarcus Robinson, who's been fine, serviceable,
Speaker 1: but not DeMarcus serviceable.
Speaker 2: Right, that's something to see, you, I know.
Speaker 1: Wild Also in twenty sixteen, in the fifth round, Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 1: who they drafted more as a special teams guy and
Speaker 1: not as the outlier. They didn't draft him to be
Speaker 1: the guy that he became. So you go all the
Speaker 1: way to twenty sixteen for them to have drafted a
Speaker 1: wide receiver that really worked out at all, and that
Speaker 1: was sort of they kind of backed into that one.
Speaker 2: It was masked by them winning Super Bowls though, so
Speaker 2: it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, they just they have not done
Speaker 1: well when it comes to drafting wide receivers. The Chargers
Speaker 1: I feel like they mostly just need offensive line help,
Speaker 1: and even that is they just need their guys to
Speaker 1: get healthy more than anything. They need Rashaan Slater back healthy.
Speaker 1: They did Joe Alt healthy like that changes a lot
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 2: They need a backup running back for sure. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that's definitely needed because Kamani Bydell is a free agent.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they need some money back there for Hampton.
Speaker 1: That's true, and that's that's something you can definitely find
Speaker 1: on the free agent market. You can go out and
Speaker 1: get yourself a decent free agent running back without spending
Speaker 1: a ton of cash. Not that they got a ninety
Speaker 1: four point six million dollars to spend. They got a
Speaker 1: lot of money they can spend, so the Chargers could
Speaker 1: actually sort of load up, get that whole lot.
Speaker 3: Let Mike McDaniel draw all those plays for Lad McConkie.
Speaker 1: Here we go, not on the anti Land McConkie campaign.
Speaker 1: This show man, I'm a buy I'm by i'mna make
Speaker 1: some T shirts. I just say, lads, lads, and we
Speaker 1: can all wear them on the show together, so it'll
Speaker 1: be so cute the three of us this year. Lads, lads, lads,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be us for sure. The Broncos twenty point
Speaker 1: nine million dollars to spend. I think for them it
Speaker 1: is definitely wide receiver. I think they also could probably
Speaker 1: go out and find themselves another running back. But you
Speaker 1: know we're talking about this, was it earlier this week
Speaker 1: or last week? They are pretty much signaling to us
Speaker 1: that they don't think RJ. Harvey is a front line back,
Speaker 1: that he's a complimentary piece at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen his limitations and I think that's evident.
Speaker 2: Like I keep trying to, like wish List Tyler Algier,
Speaker 2: there even a Sean Tucker who's not going to be
Speaker 2: turning back to the Bucks what it kind of looks like.
Speaker 2: I think Harvey, we could still utilize him as a
Speaker 2: handcuff and as a backup running back because he still
Speaker 2: has that home run ability. But again that's only for
Speaker 2: the best ball crowd. But when it comes to us
Speaker 2: who do weekly lineups and starts and sit, it's going
Speaker 2: to be hard to see RJ. Harvey in starting lineups,
Speaker 2: sharing the backfield because again, I don't think that they
Speaker 2: believe that he's going to be their end all, be
Speaker 2: all RB one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's it. And we also have the
Speaker 1: added wrinkle of Davis Webb as a first time play
Speaker 1: caller orchestra in the offense there. It should be interesting.
Speaker 1: It's just it's such an unknown. We have no idea. Well,
Speaker 1: will how much of the Sean Payton stuff will he keep?
Speaker 2: How much of his own stuff is he going to
Speaker 2: bring in there?
Speaker 1: We we have no idea, and it'll probably take us
Speaker 1: a few weeks to actually kind of figure it out.
Speaker 2: Do they low key need another wide receiver, though, like
Speaker 2: they absolutely need a wide receiver?
Speaker 1: I think they do.
Speaker 2: I mean'll move Courtland's son.
Speaker 1: I mean unless unless somehow Davis Webb just leans into you,
Speaker 1: I don't know, take your pick, Pat Bryant, Marvin Mims, Franklin,
Speaker 1: Trey Franklin, you know, I mean unless unless they just
Speaker 1: lean into one of those guys. I mean I think they.
Speaker 2: Do, you know, because Sun has been a guy. But
Speaker 2: like again we've seen him disappear many weeks.
Speaker 1: Suddenly is a above average wide receiver. But I don't
Speaker 1: think he's a.
Speaker 2: He seems like a patriot to me. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: He just seems like a patriot or a chief or
Speaker 2: something like. I don't know, maybe not the Chiefs, but
Speaker 2: I do feel like at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like Courtland, Sutton hasn't delivered as d one in a
Speaker 2: Sean Payton offense these last couple of years. Like again,
Speaker 2: we've seen more out of Troy Franklin and his breakout,
Speaker 2: and then Marvin Mims gets sprinkled here and obviously a
Speaker 2: huge Pat Bryant fan, Like I think he takes a
Speaker 2: step forward next year. So it's like, where does Sutton
Speaker 2: fit and all this with Davis Webb Cole in the plays?
Speaker 1: Now? Yeah, I mean I think he's he gets a
Speaker 1: pretty heavy target share, just because again, until one of
Speaker 1: these other guys establishes themselves as a true you know,
Speaker 1: kind of go to pass catcher. Who else do they
Speaker 1: really have to throw the ball to consistently?
Speaker 2: Is Evan Ingram a free agent?
Speaker 1: I think? So? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's get John Newsmith there. I'll be happy.
Speaker 3: No Isa, like I want to get Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 3: a good one.
Speaker 2: That'd be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like that a lot that man.
Speaker 2: Let's get John new Let's running back one more time.
Speaker 1: That happened?
Speaker 2: Come on retirement home, which is like.
Speaker 1: We have is there is there a tight end retirement home.
Speaker 1: That's what we got to be, right, There's got to
Speaker 1: be one. So honestly, it might be Denver.
Speaker 2: Thinking about it, you might.
Speaker 1: You might be right. It very well could be Denver,
Speaker 1: Is it? Oh man?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: They get no other team. It's Wherever shown Peyton is.
Speaker 2: That's where old tight ends go.
Speaker 1: It might have been New Orleans previously, so yeah, I
Speaker 1: could be Denver. Now that's hilarious. All right, we have
Speaker 1: four more teams to to talk about as we get
Speaker 1: to the NFC West. Continuing our free agency preview as
Speaker 1: haphazard as it's been. That's next on the NFL Betasy
Speaker 1: Football Podcast, wrapping up our free agency previews with the
Speaker 1: NFC West Division in reverse order of Finnish Cardinals, forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers, Rams, and the Super Bowl champion Seahawks. For
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, well, we know they need a quarterback because
Speaker 1: they have told Kyler Murray that they are going to
Speaker 1: release him, which I mean, I forgot to mention that
Speaker 1: during our news segment. I think I was like shuffling
Speaker 1: things around and I forgot to get to that. So
Speaker 1: I guess let's start there though, right, Kyler Murray gonna
Speaker 1: hit the free agency market. Immediately, everybody was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, doing the whole squid word meme and just
Speaker 1: Viking just pointing right at him.
Speaker 2: Is that where he goes?
Speaker 1: I thought the Dolphins could maybe be interested if they
Speaker 1: can figure out how to unload Toua. I don't know
Speaker 1: what for you, Floria, what is the best fit for Kyler?
Speaker 2: I think it's the Vikings.
Speaker 3: I think he put him there with Justin Jefferson, with Addison,
Speaker 3: whatever's still left of t J.
Speaker 2: Hockinson and Koc more than anything.
Speaker 3: Right, Like the play caller, I think that is the
Speaker 3: best play caller he could pair up with, and it's
Speaker 3: gonna call so cheap that like, the Vikings have the
Speaker 3: ability to bring him, and the Dolphins would, I mean
Speaker 3: anyone would.
Speaker 2: Because he's gonna be signing for the minimum, it sounds like.
Speaker 3: But to me, it's just the best play caller, best
Speaker 3: weapons around him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, KOC would have to make some changes to his.
Speaker 3: Scheme because it's a lot over the middle and Kyler
Speaker 3: has struggled there at times.
Speaker 1: But I.
Speaker 3: Think that is what's best for Kyler Murray to kind
Speaker 3: of rejuvenilize it.
Speaker 2: Did I say that right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know what I mean, though, his career kind
Speaker 3: of like a Daniel Jones did when he went to Minnesota.
Speaker 3: You know, like I think KOC, even if it's only
Speaker 3: for one year, could help get the most kind of
Speaker 3: get Kyler back to what he was a few years
Speaker 3: ago when we were all very excited for him in fantasy.
Speaker 1: Side note, I don't know if you guys saw the
Speaker 1: story that was floating around last night. A's general manager
Speaker 1: Davids said.
Speaker 2: That they would welcome Kyler back.
Speaker 1: Kyler, who was a you know, obviously the number one
Speaker 1: overall NFL draft pick, but was a was the number
Speaker 1: nine overall pick in the twenty eighteen Major League Baseball Draft.
Speaker 1: Kyler actually did sign with the A's, got a signing
Speaker 1: bonus before he decided he was gonna become a professional
Speaker 1: football player. But the A's were like, hey man, we
Speaker 1: you know, talked to his baseball reps.
Speaker 2: The door's open if he wants.
Speaker 1: To come back and play. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if the I feel like, if you've been playing NFL
Speaker 1: football and getting an NFL salary that like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: riding the bus in like Ogden, Utah's probably not going
Speaker 1: to be a thing that you're interested in doing. That's
Speaker 1: just me no that I don't know. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to think, like where I'm looking up the uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the A's farm system, Like would you go to like Midland,
Speaker 1: like just just riding a bus in Midland, Texas or something.
Speaker 2: I wish they would let him do it for fun
Speaker 2: in the spring, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, yeah, I mean Loo they are Triple A
Speaker 1: teams in Vegas.
Speaker 3: Like you, you could play baseball until June and then
Speaker 3: come report back to camp.
Speaker 1: They're Triple A teams at Triple A teams in Vegas.
Speaker 1: He could, you know, at least he said, you beat
Speaker 1: a big city like you know, live it up in Vegas.
Speaker 2: He'll stay in shape, He'll stay in shape.
Speaker 1: Why not? Anyway back to the football thing about it though,
Speaker 1: you when the news hit that he was getting released
Speaker 1: and the Vikings were possibly interested, lakwan, you immediately said,
Speaker 1: does this mean Justin Jefferson is a first round pick?
Speaker 1: I mean, if if Kyler does land in Minnesota, are
Speaker 1: we back to.
Speaker 2: Top eight top seven for for Justin Jefferson?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think top eight is reasonable, being that again be
Speaker 2: such a huge gap and upgrade from JJ McCarthy what
Speaker 2: we've seen this past season, and I think obviously we
Speaker 2: can tie and paint that picture of Koc being a
Speaker 2: quarterback whisper, a guru, being able to rejuvenate these quarterbacks' careers.
Speaker 2: Why not. Like I think when we look at Justin
Speaker 2: Jefferson and his struggles last year, it wasn't target share,
Speaker 2: it wasn't him, It was just a matter of him
Speaker 2: getting the ball. And then we've seen Kyler be high
Speaker 2: in the completion percentage area to where we can see
Speaker 2: that he could make the right right decisions extending plays
Speaker 2: and connecting with the wide receiver one was something that
Speaker 2: I've knocked Kyler Murray for multiple years since the DeAndre
Speaker 2: Hopkins And when we look at what Justin Jefferson is
Speaker 2: and what we put him in that elite tier, I
Speaker 2: think this will definitely be the huge upgrade that you know,
Speaker 2: the Vikings need at the quarterback position. So yeah, Justin
Speaker 2: Jefferson he gets back in that top eight conversation. I
Speaker 2: still think I would rather, you know, at Jamar Chase
Speaker 2: Pokin Nakula. I would even argue, you know, when we
Speaker 2: get into the middle round, if on raw or even
Speaker 2: a CD Lamb like, these are the questions that we'll
Speaker 2: have to ask ourselves if you know Kyler would be
Speaker 2: the Vikings quarterback.
Speaker 1: There's a conversation not on this show, I mean that
Speaker 1: on this episode about whether or not I'm on Ross
Speaker 1: Saint Brown is undervalued with just the the things he's
Speaker 1: just done last year, over his career, what he has done,
Speaker 1: and you know the fact that we talk about the
Speaker 1: top receivers, it's certainly the NFL, but especially in fantasy.
Speaker 1: You know it's immediately it's Jamar, it's CD, it's Pookah,
Speaker 1: it's you know, Jefferson for the most part. But you
Speaker 1: know then it's like somehow same Brown is hanging around
Speaker 1: it like picked twelve, and then when drafts him feels
Speaker 1: there and feels great about it because it always seems
Speaker 1: to work out. He's come a long way from the
Speaker 1: days of our power, Matt Harmon calling him Bud like
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. It's just it's a long long way from there.
Speaker 1: The other thing that the Cardinals probably need, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously they need a quarterback at this point, we know that,
Speaker 1: do they I don't know where where do you go?
Speaker 1: Because I guess you can get somebody for cheap. You
Speaker 1: can get just a bridge quarterback that's not gonna cost
Speaker 1: you a whole lot unless you think you're just gonna ride.
Speaker 1: But you go be preset this year because there's nobody
Speaker 1: in the draft that's gonna really change your fortunes.
Speaker 3: They think they're gonna have Malik Willis. That's it's there's
Speaker 3: so much smoke connecting those two. There's a little the
Speaker 3: floor connection.
Speaker 2: Uh. Shout out to our boy, Matthew Berry.
Speaker 3: He wrote his uh, his rumors he heard at the
Speaker 3: Combine article, and one thing he said he heard more
Speaker 3: than anything was thirty million dollars for Milik Willis to
Speaker 3: be the Cardinals quarterback this year.
Speaker 1: More I hear stuff like that, the more I'm just like,
Speaker 1: this is not gonna work out.
Speaker 2: Come on, that's my good night.
Speaker 1: I understood, like I understand the fantasy perspective of it,
Speaker 1: and that part I think is intriguing. I just I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, It's just it feels a guy who
Speaker 1: in four NFL seasons has six starts through one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty five passes, and like now we're like talking
Speaker 1: about giving him thirty million dollars and asking him to
Speaker 1: be a franchise quarterback, like that just feels like it
Speaker 1: is doomed to failure in real football.
Speaker 2: Our guy Kurt Warner said he's watched all one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty five you know, passing attempts, but he said,
Speaker 2: there's really only twenty eight dropbacks that are worth watching
Speaker 2: without the screens and everything else, and then he's going
Speaker 2: to get back to us. So I'm curious to see
Speaker 2: and watch that and his thoughts and trying to really
Speaker 2: understand where this thirty million of year is coming from.
Speaker 1: Thirty million dollars for twenty eight throws, man, Like, that's scary.
Speaker 1: That's scary.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's really really scary. And again, look,
Speaker 2: I feel like they have to make a move at
Speaker 2: the quarterback position. You need somebody who's coming in with
Speaker 2: that type of upside. Obviously, you know Mike Laflor now
Speaker 2: calling the shots. And I do think that Malite Willis
Speaker 2: would be a great order back for them. But will
Speaker 2: this be the hump? Will they be competing in the division?
Speaker 2: Will they be able to knock off a giant like
Speaker 2: the Rams? You know? And like I say, stick with
Speaker 2: Chakobe said, I'm sorry, did I black out?
Speaker 1: Did the Rams win the Super Bowl this year, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry who won the Super Bowl? Wait?
Speaker 2: Look, remind me. We're onto a new season.
Speaker 1: The Patriots and the oh yeah, the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: The Rams are the giant of the West.
Speaker 1: You know it.
Speaker 2: Stop, it's a new season. Who is more strapped in
Speaker 2: the quick didn't even get to the big starts till
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 3: The bo.
Speaker 2: Season is over once the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no no, no no no,
Speaker 1: because if the Rams had won the Super Bowl, we
Speaker 1: would not have been moving on with the next season.
Speaker 1: So no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: Next year Seahawks game happens.
Speaker 1: We're not doing that much.
Speaker 2: Barking best, really, Ben Barking.
Speaker 1: Of course you are like your team and you're start
Speaker 1: working like you don't understand the rules of this.
Speaker 2: He almost got.
Speaker 1: The other thing that Cardinals said. I think they need
Speaker 1: they need running back help. You know, I know we've
Speaker 1: always loved James Connor, but at this point, after another
Speaker 1: poor one out for him, after another season where he
Speaker 1: missed most of the year because of injury.
Speaker 2: So good the year before though, man he was he
Speaker 2: was great.
Speaker 1: But you can't keep running back with Michael Carter any
Speaker 1: Maury de Mercado and Bam Knight or so.
Speaker 3: I've read a lot of rumors these last few days
Speaker 3: and weeks, so I don't remember where I read this one,
Speaker 3: but it said they're going to cut James Connor. They're
Speaker 3: open to bringing him back for a cheap deal, but
Speaker 3: if not, it said they want to go with Trey
Speaker 3: Benson and then like another a cheap powerback. Like I
Speaker 3: don't expect them to invest a ton into the running
Speaker 3: back position, but I do think with didn't than it
Speaker 3: did last year.
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to. It absolutely has to.
Speaker 2: I'm saying ricco' daddle lands in Arizona.
Speaker 1: That's not a power back though I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: he would fit, I guess, but he's not a power back.
Speaker 2: He would fit, And honestly, Trey Benton thought Trey Benson.
Speaker 2: I like him a lot because again we talked to
Speaker 2: him out to be one of the top prospect running backs.
Speaker 2: But availability is your best ability. And once he started
Speaker 2: revving up, that's exactly when he got injured. So it's like,
Speaker 2: come on, man. So he's definitely gonna get some help
Speaker 2: in that backfield. It's not going to be all his
Speaker 2: Cardinals with almost.
Speaker 1: Thirty nine million dollars to spend, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: everybody in the division is has a decent amount of
Speaker 1: money to spend, which is sort of bad news for
Speaker 1: everybody else around the league that already the NFC West
Speaker 1: was just an out and out brawl with all these teams,
Speaker 1: and now they all have room to go out and
Speaker 1: get better potentially.
Speaker 2: That's that's in the West. Everybody else. The Seahawks, sure,
Speaker 2: forty nine.
Speaker 1: Ers, I have about twenty three million dollars to spend.
Speaker 1: I said, their biggest need is an etsy witching.
Speaker 2: A new practice facility, not an next to a power plant.
Speaker 1: Right, So what I didn't realize until well into this
Speaker 1: whole conversation is that they've been playing that they've been
Speaker 1: practicing that facility for years. The injury things are the
Speaker 1: last few years. So like, I'm not buying the power
Speaker 1: plant thing anymore, Like it was, like it was probably
Speaker 1: always ridiculous, but but it seemed to make more sense
Speaker 1: if they had just moved there, Like the fact that
Speaker 1: they've been playing practicing there forever, Like there's there's something
Speaker 1: else going on.
Speaker 2: But you guys always are like the most hurt team
Speaker 2: in the league. Exactly, so there has to be some
Speaker 2: type of you know.
Speaker 1: It's it's been that way, but it's really just been
Speaker 1: the last three to five years they did has been
Speaker 1: that way. So like if they've been practicing there since,
Speaker 1: going back to like the nineties, like okay, man, like,
Speaker 1: it's not the it's not the power plant. You know what.
Speaker 2: I hope you guys stayed there forever.
Speaker 1: Don't leave. It's for sure. Anyway, he's just a myth.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you right now. The other thing
Speaker 1: that I does really need is wide receiver help. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk, you know you're gonna be a Steeler or
Speaker 1: a commander one of those still in.
Speaker 2: The team website by the way. Oh yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: because that's the new league.
Speaker 1: He has not officially a free agent yet, but he's gone.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine then ring back Juwan Jennings, who I
Speaker 1: think sort of his heat check didn't work out, trying
Speaker 1: to get more money that he check didn't quite work
Speaker 1: out for him, So I can't imagine he's going to
Speaker 1: be back. But they can't survive on Ricky piersall alone,
Speaker 1: especially with George Kittle hurt and expected to miss a
Speaker 1: good chunk of the season.
Speaker 3: Is this gonna be the off season when Ricky Piersoll
Speaker 3: says he's no longer a forty nine er and he
Speaker 3: wants out?
Speaker 2: Or is that not? That's a new trend, right, that's
Speaker 2: the trend. I mean, Debo Jennings, are you it's what
Speaker 2: a Shanahan.
Speaker 1: Doing to these guys. At least Debo had like a
Speaker 1: body of work behind him, right, Yeah, is warranted that
Speaker 1: they had receipts, you know, like when he was doing that,
Speaker 1: these like Juwan Jennings, you had that you know, good
Speaker 1: first half in the Super Bowl, Like that's what you had.
Speaker 2: That was your only thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you really didn't have any long track
Speaker 1: record of success. Like I think for Ricky Piersall, it's
Speaker 1: just just have a healthy offseason. That's the Just just
Speaker 1: show up for training camp healthy, get through the preseason healthy,
Speaker 1: like being able to play more than five games in
Speaker 1: a row. Like That's that's what I think the Niners
Speaker 1: need out of out of Ricky Piersoll. But they've got
Speaker 1: to get somebody at the wide receiver position because they
Speaker 1: just you know, he can't do it by himself, and
Speaker 1: don't I don't trust that he can do it by himself.
Speaker 2: So great talent, but yeah, you just said it for
Speaker 2: Trey Vincent, right.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're best at is your availability, and he has
Speaker 1: not really been available to the forty nine ers in
Speaker 1: his first couple of years in the NFL. Ram's got
Speaker 1: about twenty nine million dollars to actually probably less. Now again,
Speaker 1: I wrote this down before the McDuffie traites was probably less.
Speaker 1: I do love less sneed afterwards being like we're gonna
Speaker 1: use free agency to avoid being desperate in the draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no kidding, Yeah, you got a draft picks, Like, of
Speaker 1: course you're going to be active at free agency. But
Speaker 1: I mean I think realistically the Rams in free agency
Speaker 1: are just sort of adding depth pieces because it's like
Speaker 1: their front line is pretty much set.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know how many receivers does Stafford need.
Speaker 2: We need a rotational three, Like we have Jordan Whittington,
Speaker 2: who's great at what he does when he's available, Keyante
Speaker 2: Mumfield that I like, but he is going into the
Speaker 2: second year to Xavier Smith is coming back, which I'm
Speaker 2: very surprised, but he is back, and we've seen him
Speaker 2: be serviceable at times. I think we need somebody that
Speaker 2: is going to be a solid three, Like I want
Speaker 2: to get back to that Brandon Coox, Robert Woods and
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup where we had a solid three where these
Speaker 2: guys were on track if they stayed healthy four thousand
Speaker 2: yards each. Like I'm tired of the rotational three. Like
Speaker 2: I think we need somebody that's going to be stuck there,
Speaker 2: like maybe a Jordan Tyson, maybe a McKay lemon.
Speaker 1: That is that's why you spend the number thirteen pick
Speaker 1: on mackay Lemon probably and he becomes that guy for you.
Speaker 2: I would rather Jordan Tyson, but yes, that's probably what's
Speaker 2: going to happen. I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like that thirteenth pick could be It could be anybody.
Speaker 2: It could be a Kenyan Sadik, you know, another organ
Speaker 2: tight end you know, to go along with a terrece
Speaker 2: Herguson who knows, because.
Speaker 1: You know, you can never have too many trying to
Speaker 1: be retire retirement home right now, aren't you no?
Speaker 2: A tight end development place and what we're going into.
Speaker 2: I do think that thirteenth pick they can do whatever
Speaker 2: they want, Like they want traded, they want to you know,
Speaker 2: sit there and pick one of these wide receivers, another
Speaker 2: dB who cares. I don't really care about what we
Speaker 2: do in the draft. I haven't cared since twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: But you have it because the Rams don't participate. What
Speaker 2: are you talking about?
Speaker 3: You got Jared Verse in the last two years, you
Speaker 3: did not care about since twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Even that's true, lest has been cooking since twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: So I haven't like really went into a draft.
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: First pick was Michael Bronckers. Look at that he drafted
Speaker 2: on girl drafted twelve jar.
Speaker 1: Jaredson.
Speaker 2: Jared Goof was maybe a goof, but he looked good
Speaker 2: at the time. You know, he talking about the he
Speaker 2: was because I'm glad we didn't go win said year.
Speaker 2: But again, I feel like, you know, I never have
Speaker 2: gone into a draft like trying to like critique or
Speaker 2: like worrying.
Speaker 1: Like oh man, because because if the NFL draft were
Speaker 1: like happy.
Speaker 2: Hour, the Rams are that coworker that like, we.
Speaker 1: Hesitate to invite you because you're probably not gonna show up,
Speaker 1: and when you do show up, you're gonna have like
Speaker 1: a bey or eat a couple of wings and then
Speaker 1: just like irish goodbye. Like that's that's the Rams, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I like that, I've done that. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: Rams at the draft. So yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: I think I could see them making some moves in
Speaker 1: free agency, but it's mostly gonna be hey, we're just
Speaker 1: ad depth or just try and like.
Speaker 2: I don't want to set I think ale Pearce is
Speaker 2: a law, Like it's a huge.
Speaker 1: Reach, like Smith, you don't need no exactly, I'm not
Speaker 1: even being smart snarky, like I don't.
Speaker 2: Think no, that's facts like the timelines, you know, I
Speaker 2: like to stay tapped in with the RAMS community and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But they keep pushing this for Shishi
Speaker 2: heat thing where I'm like no, because again, he makes
Speaker 2: an impact on special teams, but as an actual wide receiver,
Speaker 2: he'd just become another rotational three. I want somebody who's
Speaker 2: going to be stationary at that position, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Because again, we need to start preparing for
Speaker 2: the post Davante Adams ere the post Stafford era, which
Speaker 2: I understand that we need to develop and find a quarterback,
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, we need a
Speaker 2: three that's going to be able to be you know, useful,
Speaker 2: to develop into a two to be long term.
Speaker 1: I think whatever salary cap the Rams have should probably
Speaker 1: be spent on upgrading the robotics in Matthew Stafford's back.
Speaker 1: But that's just me. The Seahawks have about sixty million
Speaker 1: dollars to spend, it looks like they're going to need
Speaker 1: a running back. But I'm just guessing based on the
Speaker 1: way you guys feel, they're probably not going to spend
Speaker 1: big on a running back. They just kind of get
Speaker 1: a nice sort of couple complimentary pieces to hold them over.
Speaker 1: So Zach Sharbonney.
Speaker 2: Comes back, which is weird, like, just just pay Ken Walker, man,
Speaker 2: That's kind.
Speaker 1: Of how unless they feel like they can get Kenneth
Speaker 1: Walker for cheaper, but he's going to be in demand,
Speaker 1: so I don't think that that really happens.
Speaker 3: And because they they got other some other big pieces
Speaker 3: they got to try to pay, you know, like Greek Woolan,
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant, uh He Mafi, like there's a Jobe, Like,
Speaker 3: they have a lot of key pieces on that defense,
Speaker 3: especially that are now free agents.
Speaker 2: So I just think they're.
Speaker 3: Going to be like, look, we love Kenneth Walker, we
Speaker 3: would love to have him in the building, but with
Speaker 3: the money we have I want to preserve that defense
Speaker 3: that that won us the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They also need a wide They need a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I mean, we all love JSN. He's great, but again
Speaker 1: it's sort of like what about Cooper Cupp. Uh.
Speaker 2: Look, Cooper cup was he was good enough.
Speaker 1: He showed up in big situations for them, There's no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. But over the course of a long season, No,
Speaker 1: you do need another option, you know. I mean, if
Speaker 1: Rashid Shahed's not good enough to be a consistent three
Speaker 1: in La like, I don't know that he's necessarily a
Speaker 1: consistent two even in Seattle, they got to find somebody
Speaker 1: else They've they've got. You know, maybe that is where
Speaker 1: Darnault Mooney slides in, right, It is where somebody like
Speaker 1: that shows up. You know, if like if here's I'll
Speaker 1: say this, if Juwan Jennings went to Seattle, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to suddenly excommunicate him from my life. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put rocks in his
Speaker 1: pocket and throw him in huge. Its sound like I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna You know, I understand, the game is the game.
Speaker 1: That's just how it goes. That's all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I changed the heart for Cooper Cup. I'm
Speaker 2: proud of.
Speaker 1: Him, be grudgingly, Like it was just like like I'm
Speaker 1: so happy for you.
Speaker 2: Like that's kind of what that was.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: So what I think a running back that I'm coining
Speaker 2: as a Javonte Williams story is Brian Robinson Jr. Why not?
Speaker 2: Why not go to Seattle?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: I think he needs another opportunity as a one because
Speaker 2: obviously in Washington it didn't work out. But we've seen
Speaker 2: flashes of him with the forty winers Jersey on. I
Speaker 2: think he could be serviceable for them and on the
Speaker 2: cheap side.
Speaker 1: Oh. I would honestly think the Niners are going to
Speaker 1: try to bring him back because I think this is
Speaker 1: the year he gets more to I should because I
Speaker 1: just you know, from a fantasy perspective, I know, Florida,
Speaker 1: you're kind of out on CMC. I'm out on CMC
Speaker 1: at least at cost. Just with all the touches he
Speaker 1: had last year, I think the Niners understand that they've
Speaker 1: got to find somebody else who can take some of
Speaker 1: that workload. So I mean, I think if I'm Brian, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be a one in San Francisco if
Speaker 1: I'm Brian Robinson, but I will get more opportunities, so
Speaker 1: I go in the long game there. I like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: what I would look at if I were him. But
Speaker 1: that's just me.
Speaker 2: Whatever CMC did last year, you probably do again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to have like an NFL player salary,
Speaker 1: actually live in the city. You have to otherwise move,
Speaker 1: you know, move across the Bay to Oakland. That terrible. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: we're still if you talking about the Seahawks, they need
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, they need a running back. They got
Speaker 1: almost sixty one million dollars to spend, but we'll see
Speaker 1: how much of that goes to the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 2: So good news is, starting next week we will actually have.
Speaker 1: Some names to put to some of these teams, thankfully,
Speaker 1: and it won't just be us speculating wildly about things
Speaker 1: that we cannot know because we don't know the future.
Speaker 1: So look forward to that. So we'll be back, of
Speaker 1: course with you on Tuesday. You can find Florio and
Speaker 1: I scattered about the free agency frenzy coverage on NFL
Speaker 1: Network next week, and you can find leakwan feeding research
Speaker 1: notes to you know GMFB talent both here and abroad
Speaker 1: in New York City. So yeah, after that next week
Speaker 1: as well. So in the meantime, that'll do it for
Speaker 1: this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, The Happy,
Speaker 1: Safe and Healthy, do good and live well. Enjoy the weekend, everybody,
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