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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 2: straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: September twentieth. We're in the middle of week three. I listen.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna reveal everything, but I have made far

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Speaker 2: too many wages for this week because I like it

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Speaker 2: a lot. I'm high off the Buffalo win last week.

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Speaker 2: That was a bit of a monster for us. Monday

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Speaker 2: Night football did not go great. Nick Chubb. I got

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Speaker 2: them on two of my five fantasy teams. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: two of the teams are my sons. One of one

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Speaker 2: of them he has Chubb. We're trying to recover. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's not an ending. It's ending for Chubb season, but

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Speaker 2: it's not an ender for our teams because you know,

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Speaker 2: you really win these fantasy leagues. On the waiver wire.

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Speaker 2: A big show ahead. We're gonna go through all the

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Speaker 2: oh and two teams see whose season is really over

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Speaker 2: and who's not. I also got some thoughts on the

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Speaker 2: Deon Sanders stuff that's going down at Colorado this week.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys saw the harassment of the kid

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Speaker 2: on Colorado State who had the hit on Hunter. It

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Speaker 2: was kind of a dirty shot, but fans are just

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Speaker 2: out of control. I'm sure you sure you guys saw

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Speaker 2: that awful story in New England where a Dolphins fan

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Speaker 2: was getting in an argument the Patriots fan in the stands.

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Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what precipitated it, but you guys

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Speaker 2: have been a stadiums. These people are lubricated and acting

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Speaker 2: fifty three years old. Like that's awful. You know, I'll

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Speaker 2: you know, yeah, listen, it's fun to mouth offen stuff,

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. It's do or die week. Put up

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Speaker 2: a shut up for a lot of teams. You know

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Speaker 2: the history of going zero to three. It's also a

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Speaker 2: great college football weekend. So for those of you who

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Speaker 2: took last Saturday off, hang out with the family, me

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Speaker 2: coaching a girl soccer game, this is not the Saturday

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Speaker 2: to take off. There is a crazy good lineup of

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Speaker 2: college football games. We'll dig into those. Deon Sanders back

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Speaker 2: in the news. Shocker. Deon Sanders in the news again.

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Speaker 2: It's like four straight weeks. He does love the spotlight.

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Speaker 2: Deon loves the spotlight. Loves a microphone. He's like that

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Speaker 2: guy who keeps going up at karaoke because he's just

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Speaker 2: his bag is so deep. He's just singing every song, slow, fast, rap.

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Speaker 2: He's got his whole bag. Deon Sanders loves the spotlight.

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Speaker 2: He talked to the mediagain today. You're gonna like what

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Speaker 2: he had to say. Probably, But let's start in the

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Speaker 2: NFL because historically we talked about this a little yesterday

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Speaker 2: It's over for you. Since two thousand and two, so

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Speaker 2: we got a twenty year sample of data. Teams that

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Speaker 2: Houston Texans led by Deshaun Watson, who we disparaged greatly

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Speaker 2: a lot of you were yelling, well, jay back, jay back.

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Speaker 2: They changed it. There's now seventeen games, you get an

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Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Bucks. I don't know. Are the Saints

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Speaker 2: But I want to focus right now on the and

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Speaker 2: we'll start with the New England Patriots, who are zero

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Speaker 2: it's a good loss, doesn't really matter. In the NFL.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots fell behind deeply to the Eagles sixty to nothing. Fought, fought, fought,

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Speaker 2: Zack Wilson was absolutely horrendous. He was an abject failure.

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Speaker 2: to wonder. Does Craft say, Bill, you had a good run.

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Speaker 2: Last week I felt like an idiot backing the Jets

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Speaker 2: exhale New England. It's not over. But Rob, what do

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Speaker 1: No, I see here Sunday, October first, Patriots at Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Right and then but then the following week, I think

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Speaker 1: this point, but we talked about it yesterday. They are

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Speaker 1: I know about Derek Carr historically is he really struggles

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Speaker 1: is going to be right in the thick of the playoff, Chase.

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Speaker 1: I like them to win this week. I expect them

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Speaker 2: Not what I want to, hear, Rob, not what I

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Speaker 2: want to But we trudg John. Let's go to Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Bengals as surprising, oh Into they were my pick on

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Speaker 2: the pod to go to the super Bowl. That was

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Speaker 2: clearly foolish. The Burrow calf thing seems real. The line

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Speaker 2: If Burrow does not play, you put your your hopes

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Speaker 2: put in a game plan, which is fairly good for

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Speaker 2: Jake Browning, a young kid out of Washington. But let's

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Speaker 2: be real, though, this is one thing I think people

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Speaker 2: You guys ready for this Arizona Cardinals, who are owing

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Speaker 2: that sound like oh to nine to you? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson was there him or him and TJ. Hockinson.

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Speaker 1: Where the building blocks your quarterback, you figure it out.

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Speaker 1: But like you said, I've heard similar things, and I

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Speaker 1: think it might have been pro football talks Mike Florio

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Speaker 1: who suggested as in one of his posts, that Minnesota

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Speaker 1: had offered him. I believe the report was like the highest,

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Speaker 1: obviously the biggest contract in wide receiver history. But they

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Speaker 1: called it like an earth shattering deal, like one that

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Speaker 1: may even be on par with a quarterback. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Florio specifically reported that, but they said it

436
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Speaker 1: was a ginormous contract, and he said no for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: So maybe you know, it's not out of the realm

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Speaker 1: of possibility that they decide we're not going to pay

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver quarterback money, so we are going to

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Speaker 1: get out of it while we can to a team

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Speaker 1: that thinks they're a receiver away and get a bounty

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Speaker 1: of pick. So I could see that happening. The other

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Speaker 1: thing to your point is they play the Chargers here

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Speaker 1: this week. We'll talk about them here in a minute,

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Speaker 1: but after that it's at Carolina home to Kansas City

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Speaker 1: at the Bears. So even if they lose this week,

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Speaker 1: and let's say they lose in Kansas City, they're staring

448
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Speaker 1: at like two and four, you have a home game

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Speaker 1: with the Niners. I think the Niners would be favored,

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Speaker 1: but at least you get them at home, and then

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Speaker 1: from there it's just like we mentioned with New England

452
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Speaker 1: a few minutes ago, the pathway is set up for

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Speaker 1: you to be right in the mix into the last

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Speaker 1: month of the season. They could either tear it down

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Speaker 1: to the studs and try to, you know, beat Arizona

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Speaker 1: to the bottom. Or and we've seen with this offense

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Speaker 1: as as Kirk Cousin at the controls, they can score

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Speaker 1: with them near anybody to do their defense to slow

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Speaker 1: someone down, maybe things break your way and you know,

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Speaker 1: you beat the Chargers this week, or you lose this week,

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Speaker 1: and when you get you get right against Carolina Kansas

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Speaker 1: City comes to town. They're still not clicking on all

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Speaker 1: cylinders because through the first two weeks of the season.

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Speaker 1: That offense is really has not been untracked yet. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they're still working out some kings. You win a shootout

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Speaker 1: with them, and next thing you know, you're at five

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Speaker 1: hundred heading into the trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: It's like one thing you said, yeah, huh, this just

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Speaker 2: so high with them. I would agree you said they

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Speaker 2: offered Justin Jefferson a lot. I had missed that report,

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Speaker 2: But you know who I instantly thought of when I heard, oh,

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Speaker 2: they offered him a lot of money and he didn't

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Speaker 2: want it. I thought of Odell Beckham. Now, Odell Beckham

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Speaker 2: was a bit more of a problem in New York

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Speaker 2: off the field, not like in trouble with the law.

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Speaker 2: Just listen, man, he made that catch, and he was

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Speaker 2: a worldwide celebrity. He was big time, and Nike offered

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Speaker 2: him money and he kind of started to walk around

479
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Speaker 2: that swagger, and then all of a sudden his number

480
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Speaker 2: started to dip. And I remember saying on I don't

481
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Speaker 2: know if you were the producer of the radio show,

482
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Speaker 2: the Giant should trade O'Dell Beckham, and all these Giants

483
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Speaker 2: fans hated me, and of course they ended up trading him.

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Speaker 2: So like this idea that you have to keep a

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Speaker 2: superstar receiver. I mean, let me know the last superstar

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Speaker 2: receiver that led a team to the super Bowl. Like

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Speaker 2: that doesn't really happen. Like and I like Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: I would love to him to be an integral part,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know. Rob like this it's interesting. I

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Speaker 2: will table the vikings for now. Let's go. Let's go

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Speaker 2: to the next team, which is an easy lay up.

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Speaker 2: Will spend five thirty five seconds on it. Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 2: Oh and two, they got questions about if Frank Reich

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Speaker 2: is the right play caller and Rob the I don't

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Speaker 2: know if it was the funniest, but one of the

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Speaker 2: things I thought that was a little sad for Carolina.

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Speaker 2: A report I don't know where it was. And I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming it's real that Bryce Young was perceived as too

499
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Speaker 2: small to do quarterback sneaks on third and fourth down,

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Speaker 2: so they brought in Andy Dalton for a sneak. And

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Speaker 2: then they brought in Andy Dalton for another one.

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Speaker 1: Huh the red rifle Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Now I'm assuming this is real. I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: it's not fake, but it's I like initially laughed and

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Speaker 2: then I was like Wow that Oh my gosh, is

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Speaker 2: that real? But anyways, they're going oh and two. They're

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Speaker 2: not gonna there are oh and two. They're gonna go

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Speaker 2: oh and three. Right, we don't believe in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: No, totally down in Carolina. Same situation as Houston.

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Speaker 2: So now we get to the two interesting teams in

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Speaker 2: the AFC West. I don't know, Rob, what do you

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Speaker 2: want to start with Broncos? You know to start with Chargers?

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Speaker 2: I think we lay Chargers for last. Okay, so Broncos

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Speaker 2: oho and two with Sean Payton, they go to Miami.

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Speaker 2: They are six and a half or seven point dogs

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Speaker 2: in the Miami Heat. It's it's a tough spot for

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. Now, I did see a stat according to

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Speaker 2: t A who was on the pod recently, the Denver

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Speaker 2: Broncos lead the NFL in points per possession, meaning they

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Speaker 2: get the ball and they're scoring. Problem is they're kicking

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Speaker 2: a lot of field wolves and the defense is not

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Speaker 2: held up its end of the bargain. And overall Peyton

523
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Speaker 2: and Russ seems to be working. But it's about wins

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Speaker 2: and losses in their own two and Peyton is not

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Speaker 2: look happy. I think there could be a bet on

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Speaker 2: Denver plus seven. I did bet Miami at six and

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Speaker 2: a half, but I think you got to come the

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Speaker 2: other way at seven. Rob. I don't know if things

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Speaker 2: go off the rails for Denver, but I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 2: given that division, they plan, and they haven't played the

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Speaker 2: Chargers and they haven't played the Chiefs, so they got

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Speaker 2: to play it them a total of four times. Denver,

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Speaker 2: it's over if they go zero to three, And then

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Speaker 2: you got the questions about Russell Wilson and what the

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Speaker 2: hell do you do?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll do you one better. They played the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: twice before their bye week in week nine, So assuming

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Speaker 1: they lose this Sunday, which I have Miami winning that game,

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the spread later in the week. But

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Speaker 1: it's at Miami at Chicago, which you think they would

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Speaker 1: win that game. Home against the Jets, you think they

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Speaker 1: win that game. So they're two and three, feeling good

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Speaker 1: about themselves. Then they played the Chiefs two of the

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Speaker 1: next three weeks, so you are, in all likelihood at

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Speaker 1: the bye week at best what three and five, and

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Speaker 1: the drum beat for the Russell Wilson replacement to bring

547
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Speaker 1: in Jared's Didham because you know, the most popular guy

548
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Speaker 1: in any city is the backup quarterback. The Jared Stidham

549
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Speaker 1: drum beat is going to be banging louder and louder

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Speaker 1: and louder. And so we get into that bye week.

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Speaker 1: If they are sitting at three and five, or maybe

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Speaker 1: even two and six, because God forbid, they drop one

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Speaker 1: of these home games the Jets or the Packers, then

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Speaker 1: I would not be shocked if Russell Wilson is benched

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Speaker 1: and Week ten in Buffalo we see Garrett's Didam under center.

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Speaker 2: Hmm. I was gonna say this week. Bottom line is

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Speaker 2: it stinks for the Broncos to start oh and two,

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Speaker 2: and I think it stags for the Chargers as well,

559
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Speaker 2: although it'll give us a ton of content. So CHARGERSZ

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Speaker 2: and two, they go to the Vikings, who are also

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Speaker 2: owing to you lose, probably done, especially in that division.

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Speaker 2: Haven't played the Chiefs yet. I know the chief The

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Speaker 2: Chargers have fought the Chiefs very hard, and maybe they

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Speaker 2: beat them once, maybe twice, who knows, but it's just

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Speaker 2: the vibes would be very bad. Remember this is a

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Speaker 2: team that everybody thought was gonna run off Brandon Staley

567
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Speaker 2: if they had missed the playoffs, then they fought to

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Speaker 2: get in and then they have that massive lead and

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Speaker 2: collapse at like halftime. It was like Brandon Staley, nobody

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Speaker 2: wants to get rid of him, and then after the

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Speaker 2: game it was like get him out of town. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Rob, I personally can't see them making

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Speaker 2: another run at Sean Payton. They'd have to trade draft picks,

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Speaker 2: and the ownership has been notoriously cheap. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how good of a look it would be for Peyton

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Speaker 2: to leave after a year if you were traded to

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Speaker 2: the Chargers. I think Jim Harball is a move, but

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Speaker 2: are they gonna want to pay Jim Harball? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Did Kellen Moore get the job? I think ultimately I'm

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Speaker 2: on the Chargers to win this game, so I don't

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Speaker 2: think we get to Defcon one. So I'll have to

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Speaker 2: kick it to you and maybe think as a Raiders fan,

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing you think charges go er with three huh No.

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Speaker 1: I think they win this game, and unfortunately, as a

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Speaker 1: Raider fan, I think they win the next game two

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Speaker 1: against the Raiders. You know the Raiders defense outside of

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby, I mean we're missing a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So it's at home. Yeah, it'll be it'll be a

589
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: de facto home game for the Raiders. But I just

590
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Speaker 1: think that the Chargers offense would be able to score

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Speaker 1: at will against my beloved Raiders. So you go into

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Speaker 1: the bye week, Week five, two and two, you're gonna

593
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Speaker 1: hear the concerns are gonna be quelled a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be less of a you know, fire Staly,

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Speaker 1: fire Staly, But even still, I expect him to win

596
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Speaker 1: the next two games, get back to two and two

597
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Speaker 1: heading into the buy. I didn't pick them to make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs for a reason, you know, because I think

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Speaker 1: Brandon Staley is just himself, not counting the rest of

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Speaker 1: the Chargers going to charge your thing. Brandon Staley by

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Speaker 1: himself is worth two losses, two inexplicable losses. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's gonna come, you know, week eight at

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Speaker 1: home against the Bears. I don't know if it's gonna

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Speaker 1: come Week nine in New York against your Jets. But

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Speaker 1: it's going to happen. He's going to do something. He's

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Speaker 1: going to go for two when he shouldn't have. He's

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Speaker 1: going to say We're gonna go forward on fourth down,

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Speaker 1: you know, from our own twenty two yard line, and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna backfire, give up a touchdown that ultimately proves

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Speaker 1: the difference in the game. He's going to do something

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Speaker 1: like that, and it's going to lead to him at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season hanging out with you and

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Speaker 1: I in the sports media space because he can't get

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Speaker 1: a job in the NFL because he's a defensive guy

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Speaker 1: who doesn't coach a good defense. And that is why

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Speaker 1: before we started recording this podcast, I floated to you,

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Speaker 1: I think that Sean Payton will be the next head

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Speaker 1: coach of the Los Angeles Chargers in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, listen, some guys are better as lieutenants

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Speaker 2: than they are running the entire show. And maybe Staley's

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Speaker 2: just overwhelmed and doesn't have time to focus on the

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Speaker 2: defense because he's got to do all this other crap

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Speaker 2: that you got to do as head coach, be the

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Speaker 2: big boss CEO. Maybe Staley's a great defensive corner. I

625
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Speaker 2: guarantee you someone will hire he was too good before

626
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Speaker 2: getting the Chargers gig of a defensive boort was he

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Speaker 2: he was a defensive coordinator for one season, and he

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Speaker 2: was phenomenal in that season.

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Speaker 1: With the team that had Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey to

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Speaker 1: a pretty good Maybe you.

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Speaker 2: Given your high school football resume, right, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I find it hard to believe he'll be out of

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Speaker 2: the league. But we went long on the oh to

635
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Speaker 2: two to oh and three teams. I just quickly want

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Speaker 2: to get in a quick We'll do more college football

637
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Speaker 2: later this week. But Deon Sanders, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you guys saw this, came out and addressed a report

639
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Speaker 2: from ESPN, well not a report, but a series of

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Speaker 2: tweets from one of their reporters that the kid who

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Speaker 2: hit Travis Hunter, the Colorado star receiver's last cornerback, hit

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00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: him on the sideline and it was a fifteen yard flag.

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Speaker 2: That kid was getting all kinds of death threats, and

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00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: they they got his number, of course, because you can

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00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: get anybody's number on the internet. They got his phone number,

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00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: but then they got his mom's information and start besieging

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00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: his parents. I think they put addresses like Colorado fans

648
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: got unhinged and put all this info, and the family's

649
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: like under siege, like they had to get the cops,

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00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: and like cops had to go to the couse and like,

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Speaker 2: I mean couple for a hit in a football game. Yeah,

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00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: I mean, guys, I understand it was not a clean hit.

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00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: It didn't look good. But to go after the guy

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00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: and his family and make death threats and texts and

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00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: calls and all, like, what's wrong with you? Get a grip.

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Speaker 2: It's a football game. Hunter. The star guy's gonna be

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00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: out a few weeks. But I will give Deon s

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00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: Andrews credit for this. And I do keep saying it's funny, Rob.

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00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: I keep saying Dion's running his mouth, running his mouth,

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Speaker 2: and I get like, the same handful of people tweeting

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00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: at me, Why do you got to use that phrase?

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00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: Why you gotta make it racial? What about every other

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00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: coach who runs his mouth? You don't say that? And

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Speaker 2: I thought of it. I was like, okay, fair a little.

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00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: But the reality is all Dion does is chirp every

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00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: day he's in the media. And I get that. You're

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00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: with a new program. You want to hype them up,

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00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: get them on the map. You want to get low Wayne,

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00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: you want to get off set or all these guys.

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00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: You want to get the rock showing up. You want

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00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: that vibe, and he is Carnival Barker that in that way,

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00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: and that's not meant to be negative. That's a reality.

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00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: Look at Elon Musk, look at I was getting attention

674
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: to Tesla and Twitter and SpaceX. Look at Mark Zuckerberg

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00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: attracting attention. Like this is what you do in the

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00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: modern era. You go out and say a lot of stuff.

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00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: Some of it sticks, some of it doesn't, and just

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00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: stirring up interest generates eyeballs. I think Rob has the number.

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Speaker 2: Colorado Colorado State, which was a ten pm kickoff on

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00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: the East Coast, was like the fifth highest rated college

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00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: football regular season game in ESPN history. I mean that

682
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: covers like what forty years. Like, that's insane. Colorado Colorado State,

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00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: all because of Deon Sanders. Now, I don't know how

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00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: much of this is hate watching. I'm sure there's some

685
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: of that. There's some of that a lot, but it

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00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: isn't talent because other sorry, other than Shaduur and Hunter,

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00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of talent there and nobody Colorado

688
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: State has no nothing. You don't even know any other players.

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00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: Although the receiver looked awesome, he's probably a pro. The

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00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: coach with the shades comment probably stirred up some more interest.

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Speaker 2: I don't know Rob any explanation for why the hell

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Speaker 2: so many people are obsessed with Deon Sanders. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that it comes down to, and

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Speaker 1: we've seen this throughout sports history, but the one that

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00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: comes to mind first to me is Floyd Mayweather Junior

696
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: when he made the switch from pretty boy, pretty boy Floyd,

697
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: who was a puncher, not just a boxer. He was

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00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: knocking guys out when he was pretty boy Floyd. He

699
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: switches and becomes money Mayweather right after the Della Hoya fight,

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Speaker 1: and he starts talking more than ever, more braggadocious. He'll

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Speaker 1: do any interview that you ask him to. And it

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00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: got to a point where America was split. Either you

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00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: liked Floyd and you wanted him to keep winning, or

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00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: you hated everything he stood for and you wanted him

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Speaker 1: to lose. And I think Deon Sanders right now has

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00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: transcended that point in sports where even people who don't

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00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: really watch college football like that are tuning in, whether

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00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: because they like what he's doing and they like the talk.

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00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: They like the way he's shaking up the college football world.

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Speaker 1: You want to see him succeed, or you are the

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00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: Colorado State head coach and you're the Matt Ruhle types

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00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: who are like, I don't like the way he's using

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00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: the transfer portal, I don't like the way he's talking

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00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: this much in the media. I don't like that he

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00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: has a film crew following around twenty four to seven.

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00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: This is bad for amateurism. I need him to see

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00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: him fail. And you're gonna find out very quickly here

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00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: in the next two weeks, because they play Oregon and

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00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: USC the two toughest teams on their schedule. You know,

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00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: one side is gonna feel vindicated. Either they win both

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00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: of these games or they split, and all the Deon

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00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: supporters are are very happy, or more than likely they

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Speaker 1: get blasted and at least one of them, probably both

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Speaker 1: of them, and all of the you know, conservative college

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00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: football fans are gonna say, see, this is what happens

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00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: when you do all that talking. You know, karma comes

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00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: back and bites you, that kind of a thing. And

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Speaker 1: so I'm not shocked at all by what we're seeing

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00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: from Deon and Colorado.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's interesting. We could go longer on it

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Speaker 2: later in the week, but I just I don't know

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00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: what They've been on a slippery slope down like against

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Speaker 2: TCU and the Nebraska and then against Colorado State. They

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00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: it looks like their play has gone down. But it's

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00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: possible that with more tape on Shador and the offense

736
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: of what they're doing, and especially the defense, which ain't great,

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00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: that team are picking up stuff and they're gonna easily

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Speaker 2: use it against them. So Dion's got to now pivot.

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Speaker 2: It's no different, rob than when I coached my son's

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00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: youth basketball team. That's right, last season, and we opened

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00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: with full core pressure and we're smothering teams. First three games. Well,

742
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: everybody gets a look at it, then they get used

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00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: to it, and we got to back off, and then

744
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: we got to change to half court trap, and then

745
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: we got to pivot from that to zone and then man,

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00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: you got to constantly keep changing and evolving. Let's see

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00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: if Dion's got a CounterPunch, because he's gonna need one.

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00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: Like you said, they're twenty one and a half point

749
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: underdogs against Oregon. I haven't seen the USC line yet,

750
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: but that's a brutal back to back stretch for the

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00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: Buffalo's all right, we went way long here. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for listening, and we'll be back tomorrow. Talk to you then,