1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: Don't gossip. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Next next, next one, next one, more better. 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Or better. 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: Better more welcome? Sorry, you know what this is, what 5 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: it is. It is what it is, guys. If you 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: don't know by now it you don't know me. 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: Okay, really off key, Welcome to More Better, a podcast 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: where we stop pretending to have it all together and 9 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: embrace the journey of being off key and becoming a 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: little more better every day, or at least trying to. 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: That's Melissa Famiro. That's Stephanie Beatrice. Oh man, we're off 12 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: to a great start. Great start, great start, doing great. 13 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: We're doing great, Melsa, what have you done that's a 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: little more better? Let me just take that back, let 15 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: me let me try to more and better that okay, 16 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: hold on? Yeah, well Lissa, what have you done lately? 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: That's a little more better? That's natural, so natural, so natural. 18 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: Well, Stephanie, I literally can't think of anything because I'm 19 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: drowning currently. 20 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: No, that sounds you know what. I'm just tired. My 21 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: More Better this week is just being okay with the 22 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: bare men of mum. We're just keeping it basic. That's 23 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: come up for air. 24 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: That's good. 25 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: What have you been doing, Stephanie? 26 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: That's more better. Uh, you know, I am the opposite 27 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: right now. I don't have anything going on other than 28 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: like I am in a little bit of a waiting 29 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: game because my next job doesn't start for a little while. 30 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: So I took it upon myself to you know how 31 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: you read in the mom blogs and stuff that you're 32 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: supposed to cycle their toys out if you don't have kids. 33 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: What that means is to help them have a better brain. 34 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: I don't know, be a better human. I'm not sure 35 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: you're supposed to take some of their toys away and 36 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: put other ones out so they're not overwhelmed by like 37 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: a bunch of toys. And also you you like it's 38 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: like introducing new toys to them because they're kind of 39 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: goldfishy a little bit about toys, or like, well this 40 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: is new? What's this? So I've never done it before. 41 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: I did it today. I had some time. I took 42 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff out of her toys. I put 43 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: it in some bins. I moved them to the basement, 44 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: and uh, she didn't notice. I don't know is that 45 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: good or bad? 46 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: Yeah? I know they want out of sight, out of mind, 47 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: like every kid at that age, every toddler, they'll just forget. 48 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: I love hiding things all the time. Joys that annoy me. 49 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, man, I mean fingers crossed. This child is. 50 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: This child is not barely playing by herself. She's like, Mommy, 51 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: you want to come and play with me. I'm like, man, 52 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: I get paid to play pretend. I don't want to 53 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 2: play pretend for free. I'm trying to do this every 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: day for free. I'm putting on voices, I'm doing an 55 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: old show. 56 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: You know. 57 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: That's how I feel. I can't do it. Bro, Are 58 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: you cutting me a check person? You know? Then the 59 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: answers no, yeah, more better. Speaking of work, that's what 60 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: we wanted to talk about this week. We're going to 61 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: be discussing work parties. I already feel anxious. How do 62 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: you feel about work parties? You know, you know, work 63 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: parties specifically, they are not regular parties, right, No, I 64 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: would say, like normally big work parties around the holidays, right. 65 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: I feel like there's summer soys too, like summers of 66 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the okay, big kind of time, or like if your 67 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: work has. 68 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: Some kind of big event, like if you're going to oh, conventions, yeah, 69 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: we're going as convention and then on Friday, We're hosting 70 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: a dinner for everybody from blah blah blah. So come 71 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: on down to the TGI Fridays and hang out. 72 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 73 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: The thing about it, though, is that you're not only 74 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: with friends, right, you're at work. 75 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: You're at work, that's the thing. Yeah, You're not at 76 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: a party, You're at work. You're working. Do you like 77 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: work parties? 78 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: I really struggle with this. I really struggle with this. Yeah, 79 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: and I've learned to do better at it as I've 80 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: gotten older. But like, the hard thing about them is 81 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: like they're with people from work, so like these are 82 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: sometimes the people that are going to give you another 83 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: job later. Maybe you know, for us, it's slightly different 84 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: because like for us, we really do go job to job. Yeah, 85 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: we'll not necessarily freelance, but we do kind of as actors, 86 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: we kind of function that way, whereas like we'll wrap 87 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: a job and then you know, we can go for 88 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: many years on that job. But then oftentimes we'll go 89 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: to another job, or we'll go to do a movie, 90 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: or we'll go to do something else in another forum 91 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: of this art forum. And so, like work parties, you 92 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: really partying with a lot of people who either are 93 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: in the cast or their crew or production. 94 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: Heads of studios, executives studios. 95 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: Sometimes, Oh my god. You know who's really good at 96 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: these Laura Ash She's great at a work party. She 97 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: knows everyone's name, she remembers everybody. I am not good 98 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: at it. 99 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: Bro, Bro, I'm not good at it. 100 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: Each I can't. I'm really bad at it. 101 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: They make me feel really anxious. 102 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think same. 103 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: I've gotten a little bit better over the years. I 104 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: remember the first few that we had to go to 105 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: for Brooklyn, like even my manager being like, maybe you 106 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: should have a drink, Like just have wondrink when you 107 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: get there, Just have one drink when you get there 108 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: to relax, yes, to just like kind of take an 109 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: edge off. 110 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: Right, But like if you're not drinking, I'm not drinking, 111 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: So like, right, I was super nervous about this rap 112 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: party because I was like, I can't have a beer. 113 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: I can't like do that right now, you know. But 114 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: from you know, it's a choice that I'm making. But 115 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: like it's definitely easy to lean on substances when you're 116 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: sort of feeling like, well, I feel nervous and I'm anxious. 117 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: You know, there's nothing wrong with that. 118 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: No, no, no, there's nothing wrong with that. But also 119 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: like you have to be careful too, because sometimes over 120 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: indulging at a work party is the most anxiety inducing 121 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: thing that could happen, of just being in the middle 122 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: of a work party and being like, oh my god. 123 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: I'm I'm drunk. Do you remember that first dinner we 124 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: went to, that very very first dinner that we went 125 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: to after I think we shot the pilot for Brooklyn? Yes, maybe, 126 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: do you remember what I'm talking about? Yeah, Yota, I think. 127 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: It was Mozza in the Present Room. 128 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: Great wonderful restaurant here in La so good, really good, 129 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: like pizza Italian food, Nancy Silverton. Right, anyway, Yes, we 130 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: were at this work party and you know, for me, 131 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: I was really my first big TV thing that I'd 132 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: ever done, and so like I'd honestly never gone to 133 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: a dinner where like the studio was like paying for 134 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: the dinner, and it was like you can have whatever 135 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: you want to drink, you know, So I was like, 136 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: I'll get wine. Do you remember this. I had so 137 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: many glasses of wine because I was so nervous, and 138 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: I was sitting next to Mike Sure and I turned 139 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: to him. At one point I was like, I think 140 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: I've had too much to drink, and God bless Mike Sure. 141 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: He was like, you should go home now. Oh, you 142 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: should call a car and go home right now. And 143 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: I was like I should without saying goodbye. He was like, 144 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: you don't have to say goodbye, just go home. God 145 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: bless him, because I was ripped, ma'am. I was rip 146 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 2: I don't remember that. Did you just go disappear? Yeah? 147 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: I just left. I just left because I was like, 148 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: if Mike Sure says I should go home, I should 149 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: go home. 150 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: I now remember that. Yeah, I think I do remember 151 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: turning around and being like, where's that go? 152 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: Where'd she go? Because I had like a bottle of 153 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: wine by myself because I was so nervous. Yeah, ridiculous, ridiculous. 154 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,479 Speaker 1: I also remember, uh, we would have to do these parties, 155 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: uh for oh god, people that are listening that are 156 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: not in this job that were. The TCAs were always 157 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: the biggest, most anxiety inducing kind of parties for me. 158 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: So the TCAs were like Television Critics Association have this 159 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: big party, uh twice a year. Right, there's like a 160 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: fall in a spring one and it's essentially this party 161 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: where you go and all the heads of studio were there, 162 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: and like everybody, you know, if it's Fox, all the 163 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: people from Fox shows are there. So it's full of 164 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: actors and it's full of journalists and they tell you 165 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: you will be on the record when you go to 166 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: this party, and you basically just make around and then 167 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: they give you alcohol and you walk around this party 168 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: and journalists just come up to you and they're like, so, 169 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: tell me about your show, and they'll just like it's 170 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: like random interviews. But then also sometimes you just are 171 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: having a conversation and halfway through you're like, wait, I'm 172 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: talking to a journalist. 173 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah this record, Yeah yeah, And then you're like, well, 174 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: what did I just say? But it's too comfortable, and. 175 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: Those were oh my god, I would be I think 176 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: that was one of the parties where my manager was like, 177 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: have a drink because like you need to relax, and 178 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: and you know, there was always that thing of like 179 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: make sure you go up and say hi to like 180 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: the heads of the studios, which is like the worst, 181 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: and I would always forget their names right as I 182 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: was going up, which is really really bad. And then 183 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: just like seeing actors from other shows, like I'm really 184 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: good with faces and not names, and I don't even 185 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: know how to get better at that. But it was 186 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: just awkward. And I felt awkward the whole time and 187 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: like sweating and just in this like high state of anxiety, 188 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: just trying not to like sound dumb or look dumb, 189 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: and just trying to relax and like have a good time. 190 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: And I remember there was one where we it was 191 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: like a few seasons in so we had done a 192 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: bunch of them, and I think we were all like 193 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: a little more comfortable with them now, but we basically 194 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: went to like the back of the restaurant and found 195 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: a corner and we all just hung out, like the 196 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: whole cast. We just hung out. Do you remember this? 197 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: I don't remember that. Where were we? Do you? It 198 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: was like the one at the Soho House? Oh yeah, 199 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: you know what. I I don't remember that because I 200 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: was with Joel and Dirk eating with them at the 201 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: buffet at the dessert buvey, and I was eating with them. 202 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: We were just like standing there as close as we 203 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: could to the dessert eating. That's why I don't remember that. 204 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: I was like, where's everybody? Yeah? I thought it was 205 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 2: all of us. 206 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: We were all just and then it was great because 207 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: imas were eating, we kind of some journalists came up 208 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: and talked to us. But I think that then as 209 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: a group we were I don't know if we were 210 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: like intimidating or like not that many people came up 211 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: to us and we just that's so funny, hung out 212 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: and ended up having like a great time. And I 213 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: was like, is that the answer just to quester. 214 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: Yourself so people in a corner? 215 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: But probably not. 216 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: I mean sometimes more better, more better. I think it 217 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: depends on what you want out of the party, you know. 218 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: Like that's the thing I think I've started to get to. Yeah, 219 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: and like as I get older, I'm like, okay, so 220 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: what is it that's making me anxious about this party? 221 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: Right? So? 222 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 2: Uh, because I'm gonna see all these people and like 223 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if I have anything to talk to about. 224 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: It's like the thing that I have to remember is 225 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: every single person at that holiday party or at that 226 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 2: work party. It's like everybody there. First of all, sometimes 227 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 2: I get caught up in feeling like I'm responsible for 228 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: other people, Like, oh, I have to stay in this 229 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: conversation with this person, because like what if I leave 230 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: the conversation. I don't want to be rude, but everybody 231 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 2: at the party is like, oh, I want to talk 232 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 2: to multiple people at this party. Every single person that 233 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: came to that party wants to talk to a bunch 234 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 2: of people at that party, even if they're nervous, you 235 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: know what I mean. They want to see like their 236 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: work friends, they maybe want to like meet someone new, 237 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: they don't. They also don't want to be like stuck 238 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: in a conversation with you the whole time. So it's 239 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: like very freeing to be like I'm so glad that 240 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: I got to talk to you for a little while. 241 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: You know how these things are. I'm gonna go see 242 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: if they put more cheese out, or I'm gonna like, 243 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go see if I can find so and so. 244 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: Like it's okay to leave the the one one. Yes, 245 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: I love. Giving my self permission to do that is big. 246 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I've just started to get a 247 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: little bit better at that. But you hearing you just 248 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: say that out loud is like such a good reminder 249 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: of like, oh, yeah, I can just like have short 250 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: conversations and just be free of the expectation and understand 251 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: that like it's good for the other person too to 252 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: be like, hey, it was great to see you, and 253 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: what are your favorite like getting out of a conversation 254 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: kind like do you use like you just said, like 255 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: a food thing is a really good one, you know, 256 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: I think getting a drink to you, Oh you know 257 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna I'm gonna go get another drink, Like yeah, 258 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'll see in a bit. 259 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: I appreciate the honesty of Like I was at a 260 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: work party the other day and I met this actress 261 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: that I really really liked, and we got along like 262 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: gangbusters and we were like having a great time and 263 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: then sort of not abruptly, but she was like, Okay, 264 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: so me and my husband are gonna we're gonna go 265 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: like see if we can talk to some more people. 266 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: It was so nice hanging out with you guys. I'm like, 267 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: I really appreciated how frank she was. She was just like, 268 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna go do our rounds, because that's kind of 269 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: what you have to do with those work parties. You're 270 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: there to do your rounds, you know, And like I 271 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: just like I think it's you know, it's part it's 272 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: it's two parts of it, right, Like there's the I 273 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: want to be frank with people, and I also understand 274 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: that if somebody's with me, they're not being like you're 275 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: the worst, and I want to talk to you. It's like, 276 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going to take that personally right. I'm gonna 277 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: be like, oh yeah, there's like fifty people here that 278 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: you probably need to talk to you before you leave 279 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: at least two, you know, at least two other people 280 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: you probably saw out of the corner of her eye, 281 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: and you want to make sure you say hi before 282 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: you go home super early. Because that's what I also 283 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: like to do at the work party. I like to 284 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: leave early. I didn't like to say to the end. 285 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: I like to get in and get out. 286 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Be in that first shift. You know, yeah you get 287 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: there on time, leave an hour or two later, yes, 288 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: on time, and then get at. 289 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: The other thing is like I like to have It 290 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: doesn't have to be like a notes list, but I 291 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: like to have a list in my mind of like, Okay, 292 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to this person. I want to 293 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: make sure I see this person. If if I see 294 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: this person, I want to like tap them on the 295 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: shoulder and be like, Hi, it's nice to see you, 296 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: or whatever, So like in my mind having a sort 297 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: of oh if I see so and so, I really 298 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: want to make sure I say this to them or. 299 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: That to them or whatever, because that makes smart stuff. Yeah, 300 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: because you're going into it with like some goals, some markers, 301 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: and then once you hit those, you're like, Okay, I 302 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: did the thing I did the work party. 303 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 304 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: If I'm having a good time, I can stay. But also, 305 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: like I released myself, I can go I have reel 306 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: good about this exactly. 307 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: Exactly, So this party, I really wanted to say hi 308 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: and by to Ted Danson, who is the lead in 309 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: this show that I just did a part in in 310 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: Icon Legend, Icon Legend fantastic wonderful human and I did. 311 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm I like made sure that I like had like 312 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: I made time to like go back over to him 313 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: when I saw he wasn't busy. Yeah, And and also 314 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: like you can't really have too much shame about interrupting. 315 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: We're not in prege and prejudice, you know, like we're 316 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: not like you just have to be like tap tap yep, 317 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: Like maybe don't interrupt right as they're putting down the 318 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: fucking I I taped. I tapped him on the shoulder 319 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: and it was right when he was laying down the 320 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: punchline to a joke. And I was like, oh, sorry, 321 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: it was really bad. But how could you know? I mean, 322 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: I could have figured it out. I am also funny, 323 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: so I could have figured out like his gestures are 324 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: such that he's about to lay down the punchline. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 325 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: but that you know. And then my other like goal 326 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: that I had in my head was like, oh, get 327 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: this one person's phone number because you don't have it 328 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: and like you don't know when you're gonna see them again. 329 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: And I'm not on social media very much, so I 330 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: was like, I want to get her phone number before 331 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: I leave the party, and I did. And the other 332 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: goal was eat all the pretzels. Like they had a 333 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: They had little you know, those little soft pretzels. What 334 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: are they called. They're like sour dough saut you know 335 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: what I'm saying about. Yeah, get yeah, the big soft pretzels. 336 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: They had big soft pretzels. And I was like, you 337 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: get many big soft pretzels as possible. Yeah, So I 338 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: had a lot. Those were my goals for the party 339 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: and I did it. 340 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: God, this is so smart. Okay, goals for a party, 341 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: being okay with being frank about short conversations with people. 342 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: These are hot tips. 343 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: I am learning still being rude, but like, yeah, thanks. 344 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: I do. I do think, especially at work parties for us, 345 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 2: and I think for everybody, there's so many times where 346 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: it's like high emphasis is like there's an open bar, 347 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: there's free drinks. Yeah, it's like I would say, like 348 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: the main thing, as I said earlier, the main thing 349 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 2: for me is like don't get stupid. Don't get stupid 350 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: at the work party. 351 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: Don't You could. 352 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: Go ahead and like go to it, like if you 353 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: really want to, you can go to another bar afterwards, 354 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: like that time that I was like, do you remember 355 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: that time? This was recent at a recent word party, 356 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: and I was like, do you guys want to go 357 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: to a second location? Remember that? Oh yeah yeah at 358 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: that party? Yeah, the Oscar party thing. And then I 359 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: was like, do you want to go to another place? 360 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: And you guys were like, we're gonna go home. I 361 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 2: was like, good for you. 362 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to go, but it was late, and we're 363 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: always thinking about how early our children wake up, and 364 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: so that makes us kind of lame. But then I 365 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: tell myself about my child, so no, your child sleeps, 366 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: your child sleep, Yeah, not anymore. 367 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: She hit that two year old mark. I didn't care anymore. 368 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: She's in that regression. I'm sorry. 369 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's in the she's in the fuck sleep. 370 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. 371 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: But my children wake up at like five thirty six am, 372 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: so that. But one day they will be older and 373 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: we can stay out later. 374 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 375 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: But yes, yes, I do love. I do love a 376 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: post work party hang party. 377 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, because at work, it's very At the work party, 378 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: it's like your bosses are there, you're you're you gotta 379 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: act right you were you know what I mean, Like 380 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: you gotta act right because I gotta. I don't want 381 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: to get fired because I'm dumb. Shit you did at 382 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 2: the work party. Like it's not worth it, you know, 383 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: it's not worth it. No amount of free alcohol is 384 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: worth getting fired. 385 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: And everybody remembers the person who got stupid at the 386 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: work party. 387 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so embarrassing. 388 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: It's so embarrassing. 389 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's me. Sometimes I don't think it's ever been you. 390 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. 391 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: What's your most memorable like Brooklyn, work party or work. 392 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a Brooklyn one, but like, 393 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: do you have a work party that you were like, 394 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: this was amazing and I totally nailed it and I 395 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: had a great time and I was just like killing it. 396 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know that, I know. I 397 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: don't think I ever feel like I'm really killing it 398 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: at a work party. But I also think like separating 399 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: the idea of like a party party from a work 400 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: party is really good for my brain. It's like, yeah, 401 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: there's certain pressures that are on a work party, like 402 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: your bosses are going to be there there, you might 403 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 2: need to like make an impression on people. But like 404 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: also if you put that much pressure on yourself about it, 405 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: it's like you're never going to succeed. And everybody at 406 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: that party except for like I don't know, you know, 407 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: j Low is like just as kind of like anxious 408 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: about the work party as you are, So like just 409 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: relax and also tell people that you like their work. 410 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: You know, like if there's someone at your party that 411 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: you'd like admire there, whatever it is, whatever job you have, 412 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: if there's somebody that you specifically are like, you're you 413 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: just such a great job, or I look up to 414 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: your work so much, or you know, I don't know 415 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: how you got to where you are, but like, if 416 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: you ever want to like have coffee, don't say pick 417 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 2: a brain because that's gross. But yeah, you know, that's 418 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: why I got that number because I wanted to talk 419 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: to that actress because she's a writer too, and I 420 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: just think she's so cool. And I was like, I 421 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: don't have a phone number. I'd really like to chat 422 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: with her, not necessarily because I want her to be 423 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 2: my mentor, although I think you could do that, I 424 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: think you can also just like talk to people that 425 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 2: you think as an equal. You want to like exchange 426 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: ideas about work outside of this work party situation. 427 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: Yes, I one hundred percent agree that is such a 428 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: good point because I feel like I've gotten a little 429 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: bit better with that too, and it has led to 430 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: collaborations or friendships or yeah, I mean I used to 431 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: feel so weird. I think when I was starting out 432 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: being like I like your work, like I don't know, 433 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: like I was like afraid it made me look thirsty 434 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: or like something, you know, just like overthinking it, desperate 435 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: or you know. And then the first time I did 436 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: it was actually with phil Augusta Jackson, and it was 437 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: kind of a work party and he had like screened 438 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: some stuff and there was like a get together after, 439 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: but there was like a lot of people there and 440 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: it was at an agency, and I just went up 441 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, I love what you do and 442 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm like a fan, and I just if there's ever 443 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: a way that I could like support you or show 444 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: up for you, like, please let me know because I 445 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: really think you're so talented. And he immediately was like, 446 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: I have a short film I want to make. You 447 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: want to be in it? And I was like yes, 448 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: like and that was kind of like how our little 449 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: relationship started. Yeah, and it gave me so much courage 450 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: after that to be like, oh, just say it, Just 451 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: say the thing. Just tell people that you like what 452 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: they do. Like people like to hear that, and then 453 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: sometimes it leads to, you know, more and creative relationships 454 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: and collaboration and it can be amazing. Yeah. 455 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. It doesn't have to be like a 456 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: thirsty thing, you know. I think some people circtly it's like, right, 457 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: we're not thirsty, but it's like what are you doing? 458 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 2: What are you? Oh yeah, no, please just like do 459 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: that gross. But when it comes from a real place 460 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: of like curiosity because you want to know what they're 461 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: creatively doing, you know, like what are you what is what? 462 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: Where's your brain like leading you? Like what is your 463 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: curiosity right now? What are you working on next? Like 464 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: what are you doing so that I can watch it 465 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: when it comes out or whatever? That's specific to us, 466 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: but like I do think it applies to a lot 467 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: of people. Yeah, I think, so more better, more better. Okay, 468 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: So I wanted to redo this thing from Forbes, which listen, 469 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: I don't read Forbes very much, but I was like 470 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: asking about holiday parties, office parties or whatever, and there 471 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 2: was this executive coach that wrote this article that's called 472 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: why your office holiday party is a secret evaluation and 473 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: possible job interview. 474 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: I hate this already. 475 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 2: I think it's so yuck to be like, okay, wait 476 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: this quote the office holiday party serves as a covert 477 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: evaluation of employees social skills, professionalism, and ability to navigate 478 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: informal settings. I advise you to prepare for your holiday 479 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: party in the same way you would a performance review 480 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: or in interview. Boom baboo. 481 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: I hate that. 482 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's too far. I don't know 483 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: the performance review or interview needs the same like intensity. 484 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: I think that's so yucky because like it's also like 485 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: a holiday party. It's like it's you know, not scrutinize 486 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: people in casuals. Can we just yeah? I mean I 487 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 2: get like people are gonna do that, but just like 488 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 2: be I hate that. I don't know that one. That's 489 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: so gross, right, It just that's gross thing that like 490 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: the the like like the kids say they gave me. 491 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: It comes from Love Island. You remember when I talked 492 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 2: about being being embarrassed that I watched Love Island. That's 493 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: where it came from. That's where it from. Just you know, America. 494 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know the origin of it without your love, 495 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: Islan love. 496 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: I do think there's some some truth to it a 497 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: little bit, but like. 498 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: Uh well only as far as listen, if you act 499 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: a fool at the holiday party, yes, should you be 500 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: judged or like possibly evaluated, Sure, but sure I think 501 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: it's gross to have that approach. I feel like holiday 502 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: parties and work parties should also be just like places 503 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: to make connection bonding time, team building, you know, all 504 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: those cut like just a time to cut loose with 505 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: these people that you spend so many hours with in 506 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: a sensible professional way. Sure, Like I said, we don't 507 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: need to get stupid at the work party. 508 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: We don't need to be ridiculous. It's not it's not 509 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: that kind of priorty. 510 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: We don't have to get sloppy. 511 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 512 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: But oh, to put this like pressure of like you're 513 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: being scrutinized. 514 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: Or evaluated like a performance evaluated. Yike, smim, don't do 515 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: that to yourself. Don't do that to yourself now, because 516 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: I will say that's how I used to not exactly, 517 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: but I would put especially in the beginning of work 518 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 2: parties for me, like when I was entering into I'm 519 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: a responsible adult and now I'm getting a paycheck, now 520 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to work parties. Yeah, I would put that 521 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: pressure on myself. I'd be like, oh my god, they're 522 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: gonna like they're gonna think of me as X Y 523 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: or Z or Like I remember being at a theater 524 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: in my early part of my career and hearing all 525 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: these like little whispers and stuff from other actors saying, 526 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: you know, you have to show up at the company 527 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: bar afterwards, and you have to schmooze, and that's how 528 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: you get cast, and this and that and I was like, Oh, 529 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: that's so stressful. Like I want to go to the 530 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 2: company bar to like hang out with my new friends 531 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: and like have some drinks and stuff. I don't want to, 532 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: you know. And this wasn't a work party. It was 533 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: more of like a social situation, you know, right, And 534 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: it's too much pressure to think about every single move 535 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: you're making. You could think about some of your moves, 536 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: but like I mean, like I didn't wear makeup to 537 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: that rap party. 538 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: Don't be so calculated. 539 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't wear makeup to that rap party because 540 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: I didn't have time. I didn't have time. Good, good, good. 541 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: And I was like, uh, people are gonna know what 542 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: I look like. Oh that's true. They do. They already 543 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: know what you look like. It's fine. 544 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 1: Well, before we wrap it up, I do have one 545 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: more fun thing that I wanted to read because our 546 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: producer isis she asked AI how to be better at 547 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: work parties? And I think that this list is hilarious 548 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: parts of it. So the first one is beyond time. Sure, 549 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: I think it's debatable because I think it's okay to 550 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: be fashionably late to a work party. Nobody wants to 551 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: be the frowd fashionally late. How late though, No, like 552 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: within the first half hour. 553 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. If it's a dinner, you need to be on time, 554 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: like you can be. 555 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: Dinner, you need to be on time. We both remember 556 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: a dinner we were invited to that I went. I 557 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: didn't know it was a sit down thing, and I 558 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: arrived actually, and it was very embarrassing to come into 559 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: the room with a big round table of people sitting down. 560 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 1: And thankfully I wasn't the last person to show up, 561 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: but I was a second. 562 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: No, you were not to show up. Yeah, it was fine, 563 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: it was embarrassing. 564 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: Uh, dress appropriately, Yeah. 565 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that one. Yeah, I don't want to, you know, 566 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: ask your if you're curious about what you is appropriate. Maybe, 567 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: you know, if if HR wouldn't appreciate you wearing it 568 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: to work, you probably shouldn't wear it to a work party. 569 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: That's good, that's solid. Yeah. Uh, don't bring a guest 570 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: unless asked. That's yeah. 571 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: I like that. 572 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: I like that. 573 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: I like that. 574 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: This is my favorite. Watch your guest behavior. 575 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: Do not bring that friend, lark, when are people? Okay, 576 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: Bill from Accounting had six beers. 577 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: You guys, don't bring that friend. Okay, you know who 578 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: you you know who they are? Uh, snack before you go. 579 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: I love that one actually, because I have definitely expected 580 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: a tree pass situation at a work party and been 581 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: sorely disappointed by the snacks. 582 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: Yes, I have definitely showed up to a work party 583 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: ravenous and then looked like I don't know what, attacking 584 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: every plate that came out or whatever, small buffet and 585 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: just like a stockpile of a plate and being like maybe. 586 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: Fine, Yeah, the stockpile is actually totally fine. If people 587 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: are gonna judge you for how much you eat at 588 00:30:59,160 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: a work. 589 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: No, I mean just more like not talking to anyone because. 590 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good, just not great. That's not great in. 591 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: Search of food because I arrived starving. 592 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: One time I went to a fancy work party and 593 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: they had Trey pass uh little burgers raw they were raw. 594 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I had eaten half of one in the 595 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: dark before I realized it. I was like, this is weird. No, 596 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: it was bad. So eat before you go, Eat before 597 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: you go. 598 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: That's a good tip. Uh, don't gossip. 599 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: Next, next next one, next one. 600 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: Drink responsibly. We we yes, we discussed, we discussed, yes, 601 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: And then this one has a big question mark. Hold 602 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: your drink in your left hand. 603 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: Why so you can shake hands with your right? Oh 604 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: is that? Why? Is that? Why? 605 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: Probably you probably just nailed it. 606 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: I like to have things in both hands so that 607 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: I'm I don't have to shake anyone's hands. Oh yeah, 608 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: that's and then I can be like, oh, sorry, I'm 609 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: holding my raw Berger. 610 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: I know, in this post COVID world, I find it 611 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: very like, are we back to shaking hands. I've also 612 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: learned as an adult that, uh, when I was younger, 613 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: I just used to hug everyone without asking you. 614 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's such a Latin thing, right, So 615 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: I just used to hug people and. 616 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've like kissed people on the cheek 617 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: without asking you because it's very Latin as well, and 618 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: like and then I, yeah, I have had to be like, oh, 619 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: well that makes some people very uncomfortable and like just 620 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: because it's my culture, like they shouldn't have to be 621 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: on physically uncomfortable because this is how I greet people. 622 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really real. You can't, you can't. 623 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I've gotten better about asking, you know, or 624 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: waiting to see you know that like awkward moment where 625 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: you're both you both go in for it and then 626 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, no, do they like hugs? And then 627 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: I just go I'm a hugger. I like hugs, and 628 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: then the other person goes me too, and then you 629 00:32:59,240 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: do it. 630 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: Oh that's nice. 631 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, but are we shaking hands? Are we back 632 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: to shaking hands? Because remember during COVID when like nobody 633 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: was shaking hands. Are we back to shaking hands? 634 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: I think you can, Like, I think it's okay to say, like, 635 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: you know, what I do is oh I just sneezed, 636 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: or like, oh I just I just ate a burger, 637 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: so I'm not shaking hands, or like I do that 638 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 2: a lot. I'll be and it's usually pretty honest. I'm 639 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: like I just you know X y Z. Yeah. 640 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're you're smart to have like, yeah, you're 641 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: both your hands occupied. 642 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like to have them because I don't love 643 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: a shake hands situation. I do like a hug, but 644 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: I try to wait until the end of the conversation 645 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: to see if I feel comfortable enough approaching huh. So 646 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: in the beginning, I'll just like smile and be like, Hi, 647 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: it's so good to see you. Yeah that kind of thing. 648 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 649 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 2: More better I feel I feel listen, I'm gonna ask you, 650 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: do you feel more better about work parties after this discussion? 651 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: I do feel more better about work parties because I 652 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: got some real hot. 653 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: Tips from you, and I'm oh, thank you. 654 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: I feel like they're a little less nerve wracking for me. Yeah, 655 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: after this conversation, do you feel more better about work 656 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: party glad? 657 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel I mean, weirdly, I feel like the 658 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: stuff that I was doing was just to manage my 659 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 2: own anxiety. So it's nice to hear that it might 660 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: be helpful to you. You know. It's nice to hear 661 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: that because like I was just going, like, how can 662 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: I not be in my head this entire experience and 663 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: like actually be present? What can I do to be present? 664 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 2: You know? So it's nice to hear that it's helpful. 665 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you were like very proactive about it, as 666 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: opposed to I've just been like floating through them, trying 667 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: to survive. 668 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: Trying to break it down, to break it down into 669 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: little bitty pieces so I can crack the code. I 670 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: like it. I like it. They're good to tack code. 671 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, well, we would love to hear about your 672 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: work parties because we'll be reroll honest, Like, this is 673 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 2: a very specific kind of work that we do, so 674 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 2: we want to know, like, is your work party super different? 675 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: Is it like really really casual? Is do the things 676 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: that we talked about apply to your you know, maybe 677 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: corporate maybe non corporate job? Like? Also, like did freelancers 678 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 2: get together and have work parties or is such as 679 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: a social party? I don't know, Let us know, Let. 680 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: Us know and we'll see you next week. 681 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, bye guys, bye, More More Better. Do you have 682 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: something you'd like to be more better at that you 683 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 2: want us to talk about in a future episode? 684 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried 685 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: one of our tips and tricks? 686 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: Shoot us your thoughts and ideas at Morebetter pod at 687 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: gmail dot com and conclude a voice note if you 688 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: want to be featured on the pod. 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