1 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm any Ries and 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm Lauren vog Obam, and today we're talking about spam. 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Spam and not the email kind, although briefly, yeah, just 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: a little bit about that, but mostly the canned meat product, 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: which you probably knew because you're listening to a podcast 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: about food. Probably. I don't know. We could go real 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: a wall with our with our talk. We could, and 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: I kind of want to one day. I think we'd 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: get a lot of angry emails, though, I think we would. Um, 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: but so stuff. Evenston history class already has a whole 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: epic episode about this. If you would like to hear 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: their take on it, and I suspect that you would, 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: you can go listen. Yes, Um, what are what are 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: your thoughts experiences with spam? Lauren? Um? I didn't grow 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: up like like, no one in my family started to 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: me growing up. But I had a friend um in 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: college who would would serve it like like slice slices 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: of it fried and then start into like mac and 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: cheese or something like that, and it's like salty and 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: delicious for her. It was a nostalgia thing. Uh huh, Yeah, 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: I get that. I get a feeling nostalgia is very 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: much involved in a lot of oh yeah, oh hugely yeah, 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: because because okay, So so what about you, though, Um, 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I've ever had it. I I know 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: I took my little brother to a restaurant in San 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: Francisco called LeHo Lejo Yacht Cu, which has a lot 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: of spam items on the menu, So I might have 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: had it, but I've never knowingly had it. Yeah, you've 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: never gotten like, oh man, what I'm doing right now 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: is eating spam exactly. So what is spam? Oh that's 31 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: a great question, isn't it. Spam is a canned luncheon 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: meat product. Lunch meat is the legal term for a 33 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: cured cooked meat food product that consists of common uned 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: meat plus some reasonable porsche of flavorings, preservatives, and binding agents, 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: all mixed together and molded into a loaf for slicing 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: and serving a loaf. A loaf, yes, uh, common uned, 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: by the way means like pulverized, as in reduced to fragments. 38 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: And in the case of spam that luncheon meat is 39 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: made up of, it's a mixture of things of pork meats, 40 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: modified potato, starch, salt, sugar, water, and sodium nitrate for 41 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: colordum nitrate is what gives some preserved meats their distinctive 42 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: pink color. It's also in there for preservation. Spam is 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: shelf stable. No refrigeration is required as long as the 44 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: can is sealed, and that can can last years past 45 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: its best by date and like technically indefinitely. So in 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: the apocalypse, zombies are about, I'm searching for food. Yeah, spam, 47 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: it says many years date past, but it's just disregard. 48 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: It might taste a little bit off, but but I'll 49 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: never know it. Hormel says that spam is like meat 50 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: with a pause button. Oh that's kind of creative. Yeah, 51 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. The recipe for spam has remained pretty 52 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: much unchanged since its inception, apart from the addition of 53 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: that potato starch in two thousand nine to keep oh 54 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: they are of gelatin from forming on the top when 55 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: you cook it. To someone who's never had it or 56 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: seen it, that is so fascinating to me. Oh yeah. 57 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: The name itself stands for scientifically processed and will matter, 58 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: or perhaps that is just a fun myth. It probably 59 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: is because Hormel, the person at the company but the 60 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: company named after Hormel anyway, He claims it was a 61 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: combination of spice and ham, the result of a naming 62 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: contest with a reward. All of these naming contests, I know, 63 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: I haven't heard about any of these. I not get 64 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: in on that. The prize winner is said to have 65 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: been an actor by the name of Kenneth Dagnall, whose 66 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: brother was once a vice president at horm So some 67 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: nepotism maybe is at the time that one hs would 68 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: have been equivalent to about fillars. That's nothing, certainly not. 69 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: You can now get spam of the oven roasted turkey variety, Spam, 70 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: hot and spicy, Spam light with less fat, Spam with 71 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: bacon all right, Spam, karaoke spam, jalapeno and spam spread 72 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: for all your spreading spam kneeds talker twisters perfect. There 73 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: are two facilities in the US that produced the stuff, 74 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: autin Minnesota, not Texas, and Fremont, Nebraska. And that's it. 75 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: It is a distinctly and very recognizably American brand slash product. Yes, 76 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: nutrition wise, spam is high in protein and low in carbs, 77 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: but it's also really high in saturated fats. It's almost 78 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: fat um. Just a two ounce serving has about a 79 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: quarter of your daily recommended intake of fat for a 80 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: two thousand calorie per day average diet. It's also really 81 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: high in salt. So if you need to watch those things, 82 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: I would say to treat span as a treat. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. 83 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Uh though, Hey, if you've ever heard that lunch meats 84 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: and other preserved meats and even preserved cheeses like American 85 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: cheese are bad for you because they contain these antimicrobial 86 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: preservatives like sodium nitrate or sodium nitrite, well that's not 87 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: actually generally why preserved meats are bad for you see 88 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: above reading salt and fat content. But studies show that 89 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: nitrates and nitrites can form other compounds in the body, 90 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: some of which can cause cancer. But nitrates are common 91 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: in many leafy greens and our water supply and even 92 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: in our own bodies, and they might be helpful in 93 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: preventing heart disease. And you can help prevent them from 94 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: forming those carcinogenic compounds by eating vitamin C along with them, 95 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: which is why the USD requires processed meats that use 96 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: them also include vitamin C in their recipes. Really, and 97 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: laws in most places prevent very much of them from 98 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: being used in the first place. So I mean, like, yeah, like, 99 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: don't go crazy with the cheese whiz, but you know, 100 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: don't worry too much about nitrates or nitrites. No, did 101 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: there are two bottles of cheese whiz in our office kitchen? 102 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: Are there? Why? I feel I thought you brought them 103 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: with all the spray cheese. No, no, no, no. What 104 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking to me about. When I talk about cheese Whiz, 105 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: I talk about the canned stuff, the jars. There's so 106 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: there's a difference between spray cheese and canned Absolutely, you 107 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: have so much to teach me, Laura. I cannot wait 108 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: to do an episode on fake cheese. You have been 109 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: talking about that for a while. Okay, all right, maybe 110 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: it's going into our into our list today, all right, 111 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: we'll find out anyway. Since it came onto the food 112 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: scene in seven courtesy of the Hormel Corporation, more than 113 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: eight billion cans have been sold. While it is an 114 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: American icon, and I saw it described that way in 115 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: several articles, I'm not coining that to her. It's available 116 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: in forty four countries around the world, and Tormel licenses 117 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: the name and recipe to other producers outside of the 118 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: United States. As they estimated the twelve point eight cans 119 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: of spam are consumed every second across the planet. Every second. 120 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: It's fairly cheap, which means during times of economic difficulty, 121 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: spam sees and uptick in sales. In the two thousand 122 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: eight recession, this equated to a ten percent increase in 123 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: sales in the US. Probably no surprise why I tops 124 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: the list in spam consumption with an average three pounds 125 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: per person a year, or seven million cans a year 126 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: for an island with the population of one point four 127 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: two millions. So you can do some map thera if 128 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: you would like. McDonald's Menus and Hawaii have spam based 129 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: products for our McDonald's effect of the Yes, and speaking 130 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: of Hawaii, some of the most famous or infamous spam 131 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: dishes definitely come out of that state. For example, spam 132 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: massubi samu okay masubi is another word for on geary um. 133 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: They're balls of seasoned sushi rice that are packed solid 134 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: enough to be a handheld snack like sort of like 135 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: a sandwich, and they originated in Japan. They can be 136 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: seasoned with just rice, vinegar, and salt, or with all 137 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: manner of savory stuff like sesame seeds or dried fish flakes, 138 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: and they are frequently wrapped in dried seaweed or a 139 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: she's So leaf to make them less messy to handle, 140 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: and they're not touching the sticky rice all on its own. 141 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: They're often filled with something like cooked salmon or a 142 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: pickled plum, and Hawaii's large Japanese population lead to the 143 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: creation of spam massubi, a rectangle of plain seasoned rice 144 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: with a slice of crispy spam, pan fried soy sauce 145 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: and a a little bit of sugar, then wrapped in or 146 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: perhaps topped with seaweed, served hot or room temperature or cold. HM. 147 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: It's sort of like pizza I gather. You can have 148 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: it any way you want and everyone loves it um. 149 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: In Hawaii, they are made both at home. There's a 150 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: market for spam the subie presses to help you shape 151 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: them and uh and they're also sold basically everywhere that 152 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: sells fresh snacks, like every convenience store in Hawaii apparently 153 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: has them. Yes, we had a listener Maureen who wrote 154 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: in about the wide availability of this and some of 155 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: the other things we're going to talk about. Yeah, okay, 156 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: so if you're going to make yourself a quick breakfast, 157 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: you wouldn't do yourself wrong with the Filipino spam salug 158 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: and the apologies. My my talcolage is really terrible. So um, 159 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: so if I'm mispronouncing everything right in and tell me 160 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: that I'm a bad person, it's okay, No, don't do that. 161 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you are could hear that? But 162 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: that was producer Dylan being like terrified for me. I 163 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: don't okay, don't don't write it and tell me that 164 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: I'm a terrible person. But but you know, you feel 165 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: free to correct me gently. I won't. I won't be 166 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: offend if you have. If you want to send in 167 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: a void anyway, okay. So, so spam slug is apartment 168 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: two form a dish of garlic fried rice which is 169 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: um sinang gag and a fried egg thong. It log 170 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: served with slices of pan fried spam, frequently with a 171 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: fresh tomato or cucumber on the side. So, yeah, garlic 172 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: fried rice, spam slices fried fried egg sounds great? Yeah, okay, 173 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: so loco moco this is this is another comfort of 174 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: food breakfast or lunch or dinner. Uh. That is a 175 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: Hawaiian tradition. It's sticky rice topped with a meat and 176 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: a fried egg and then covered in gravy. It sounds 177 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: so good. The meat is traditionally a fried ground beef 178 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: patty um, perhaps with some spam mixed in, but because 179 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: it's Hawaii, it's also often made just with spam um. 180 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: And both of these are popular in both diners and 181 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: are made at home. I am so determined to find this. 182 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: Feel like I've had trouble a stick your ice in 183 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: the past, but I'm willing to give it another try. Yes, 184 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: I can help with the stick your ice part, Okay. 185 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: So with our powers combined, yes, we can make a 186 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: tasty locomotive hopefully Okay. There are, of course, multiple spam festivals. 187 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: There are, of course there are. There's the Spam Jam 188 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: in Waikiki with music and tastings from local restaurants and 189 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of anthropomorphic costumed spam characters that you can 190 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: get your photo taken with. Uh. There's another Spam Jam 191 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: in Austin, Minnesota, at the birthplace of Spam, where there's 192 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: also a spam museum across the river from the main 193 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: plant where former factory workers are spambassadors for visitors. We 194 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: won't be talking a bit more about that town, um 195 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: in a minute, but I've got a lot of questions. 196 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: Just I'm just curious, Like, is the whole town spam 197 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: I listeners, please send pictures if you have them. Yeah, 198 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: it sounds very intense. I it does from from what 199 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: I understand the like the business of the town is 200 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: this Hormel factory. So yeah. Um, there's also another spam 201 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: festival in um is Latin is Latin, Alton, California. I'm 202 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: so sorry, um, but they've got a spamily cup cooking competition. Yeah, 203 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: the puns keep rolling in and and then of course 204 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: an annual uh there. There are annual spam carving slash 205 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: sculpting contests in a few places, with a particularly a 206 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: large one in Seattle. Man let us if you've been 207 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: send photos please. Speaking of spam fandom spammedom Oh yeah, 208 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: there's an English fellow who legally got his name his 209 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: middle name changed to I Love Spam. His name therefore 210 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: is Mark I Love Spam Benson. He got the Queen's permission. 211 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: He got the Queen's permissions on his passport and everything. 212 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: Did you go up to the queen, said, your majesty, 213 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: I didn't hear what the process was. But in he 214 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: and his wife were married in the Spam Museum in Austin, Minnesota. 215 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: She she said, when his obsession came to light, I 216 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: had already fallen in love with him. Oh. Hormel financially 217 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: helped the couple make this whole dream come true, and 218 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: then sent them to the Spam Jam in Waikiki for 219 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: their honeymoon. Well, that's lovely. I'm trying to think of 220 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: like instances where this middle name thing is going to 221 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: throw a wrench in some kind of situation. But I 222 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: hope not. I all the best for you. I mean, 223 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: what are what are his the initials? Now? Am I 224 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: L S B? Or is it am I be? And 225 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: in black? Okay, I need to focus. I need to refocus. Okay, 226 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: yes um. A nineteen forty five New Yorker piece on 227 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: Jay Hormel came with this quote from the author. I 228 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: got the distinct impression that being responsible for spam might 229 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: be too great a burden on anyone man. Yeah. Hormel 230 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: allegedly went back and forth between distancing himself and the 231 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: company from spam and then rushing to his defense, he 232 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: couldn't decide what his thoughts were on his product, where 233 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: his heart lay or lied. I'm doing great today, um yeah, 234 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: and okay, this is clearly a very nostalgic food for 235 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people. Well we'll get into that in 236 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: a minute. We're also going to get into some some 237 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: really upsetting stuff. So that's all great. Yeah, But in 238 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: the meantime, yeah, let's pause for a quick break forward 239 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: from our sponsor and we're back. Thank you sponsor. You 240 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: so I wanted to start out. It's not related directly 241 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: to spam, but in eight thirteen new technology for preserving 242 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: food by canning was commercialized in England, and one of 243 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: the first products canned was meat to be sent to 244 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: the British Navy. Makes sense if we look at spam's history, 245 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: in particular in a fellow named George A. Hormel. Uh 246 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: that Hormel laid the foundation for his first combination meat 247 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: packing facility and slaughterhouse in a small town under twelve 248 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: square miles called austin Minnesota. He got his start working 249 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: in a Chicago slaughterhouse, but he wanted to set out 250 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: into his own thing. A decade later, in nineteen o one, 251 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: George A. Hormel and Co. Was officially incorporated, making beef, 252 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: sausage casings and whole hogs and and Hormel continued working 253 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: the butchery line himself, splitting the first hundred thousand pig carcasses, 254 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: which is apparently one of the more difficult parts of 255 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: the process. I couldn't believe that. And back to awesome 256 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: Minnesota for a minute. Um. It would go on to 257 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: be known as Spam Town, USA, complete with Spam Boulevard, 258 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: the Spam Museum as we've mentioned, and a restaurant called 259 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: Johnny's Spam arema. Um. And yes, please, we can't reiterate enough. 260 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: We need to see evidence of this. Listeners, You've got 261 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: to send us pictures. Anyway, Back to Hormel Um. After 262 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: fighting in World War One, J. Hormel took over as 263 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: president of the company, and his father said in nine 264 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: Jay Hormel wanted to come up with a product that 265 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: was essentially the home version of canned launch meats you'd 266 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: order from Delhi counters. There is no one person we 267 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: can point to from Hormel as the inventor of spam, 268 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: but we can point to an employee by the name 269 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: of Julius ziljit Um, and he did the first test 270 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: with the twelve ounce can. Along with his team, he 271 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: figured out that canning the meat in a vacuum get 272 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: the product from getting all sweaty, which is not a 273 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: thing you want. Nope, not at all. No. At the time, 274 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: it was the height of the Great Depression, and the 275 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: idea was to find a way to us and otherwise 276 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: unsellable cut of meat, the pork shoulder, the pork in 277 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: the first iterations of spam where this cut generally still 278 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: are today. Over the next few years, there was this 279 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: rising discontent in the Hormel factory, which came to a 280 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: head when Jay tried to enforce a twenty cent per 281 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: week employee contribution to this company wide insurance fund, which 282 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: the company would also pay into like at five times 283 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: that amount, which sounds great until you get to the 284 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: enforce part. The already frustrated and underpaid employees organized a 285 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: union and then a strike. In three they shut down 286 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: plant operations and even the refrigeration system. Like millions of 287 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: dollars worth of mute were on the line. Um The 288 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: situation was resolved without even having to call in state 289 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: hired militia which was on the table, and over the 290 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: next couple of years, Jay Hormel got back in good 291 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: with his employees by offering all these really progressive salary 292 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: wage systems and profit sharing and merit pay, all leading 293 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: to pretty good financial success for the company and also 294 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: him be called a red capitalist by Fortune magazine. My 295 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: brain is like compliment, insult, insult communism. Oh okay, I 296 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: see because of the red Yeah all right. On July five, seven, 297 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: Spam hit the grocery store shelves. The name was trademarked 298 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: earlier that same year, and one of their first slogans 299 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: was cold a hot Spam hits the spot, very crisp. Yes. 300 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: By the nineteen thirties, people were familiar with canned meats 301 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: that didn't need refrigeration. But it was World War Two 302 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: that really catapult to spam to the public eye so 303 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: necessarily in a good way. Um, when it was one 304 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: of the brands of canned meats the U. S. Military 305 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: purchased and shipped to the soldiers overseas, both American and 306 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Allied forces, to the tune of one million pounds or 307 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: maybe a hundred million cans. Yeah. History history, According to 308 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: our very own website has stuff works, and not too 309 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: many soldiers actually were eating the real thing, really spam. 310 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: More likely they were eating meat the government it provided 311 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: to Hermel and other companies for canning, which just seems 312 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: unfair to spam in a weird way. But you know, um. 313 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: In nineteen forty one of the first singing ads was 314 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: was spam and then keep up with the singing is 315 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: a marketing tactic. After the war, there was a whole 316 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: radio show called Music with the Hormel Girls. Oh, I'm 317 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: sure it was a little light, um, but the soldiers 318 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: weren't exactly thrilled with spamuh. To be fair, they were 319 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: sometimes eating it three meals a day and that's a 320 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: lot of any kind of food to not get a 321 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: bit tired of it. Yes, Hormel kept this girl is 322 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: file of hate mail the company received from American soldiers. 323 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: Some of their opinions meet loaf without basic training, ham 324 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: that didn't pass its physical and the real reason war 325 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: was hell yeah, strong, strong words. This is one of 326 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: the reasons. You said it was a lot of responsibility 327 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: for one man. This is hate mail. I was receiving. 328 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: Margaret Thatcher, though apparently called it a wartime delicacy. I 329 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: don't know, oh thatcher. Since spam had a long shelf 330 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: life and could survive pretty much anything the weather throughout it, 331 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: it made its way to islands that might have trouble 332 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: otherwise importing food during the war, like England or the 333 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: Asian Pacific. In Hawaii, As the war ended and soldiers returned, 334 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: they were not about eating any more spam. Starting with 335 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: the sixties, spam transitioned from the main source of protein 336 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: to kind of a supporting act, like a sandwich component 337 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: or with eggs. A recipe from the sixties included spam 338 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: upside down pie. My brain was trying to imagine that 339 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: as I was saying, and it was not good. Not good. 340 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: But this wasn't the case everywhere. No, the Asian Pacific 341 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: and Hawaii experienced the opposite, as spam rose and popularity 342 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: after the war. This was in part because of sanctions 343 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: the US government put on fishing industries that were largely 344 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: owned by Japanese American the fish off the menu, Hawaiian's 345 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: turned spam for starving Japanese and Koreans. Spam included an 346 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: aid packages could very well have been a lifesaver during 347 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: the Korean War, soldiers likely consumed something called army stew, 348 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: which was a simmered broth of canned meats like spam 349 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: and spices. To this day, Korea is Spam's second largest market. 350 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: It's even given as a gift during Lunar New Year. 351 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: I we didn't read across that in our Lunar New 352 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: Year research, but that's very very interesting. Spam got a 353 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: culinary boost as Koreans and Japanese immigrated to white after 354 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: World War Two, and the fusion of cuisine's birth dishes 355 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: like lokomoco. The billionth can of spam was sold in 356 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine, and that brings us to a pop 357 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: culture phenomenon. What's a what's a good word for it? 358 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: Lauren paradigm shift, It's okay. So in nine seventy, Monty 359 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: Python's Flying Circus debuted their Spam sketched with vikings in 360 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: a cafe because Monty Python drowning out the customers and 361 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: owners voices with their song about spam, Lovely Spam, Lovely Spam, 362 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: and the end credits for the episode include Spam with 363 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: every company member including Spam Terry Jones and Terry Spam 364 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: sausage spam, egg spam Gilliam. Oh, that's excellent. Yeah. Uh, 365 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: And this skit is pretty much where the term spam 366 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: in context to email comes from. Oh really, yeah, because 367 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: you know it's the the spam email. It's omnipresent, it 368 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: has no appreciable content, it drowns out other voices. Okay, yeah, 369 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah. Um. Horbell is not really excited about 370 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: this association. No. I think they tried to find a 371 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: way to legally do something about it. I don't know. 372 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: I remember reading an article where they were pursuing solutions 373 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: sort but sorry about it. Hormel. Yeah, I mean, if 374 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: it's any constellation, which I'm sure it's not, I don't 375 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: think of. I don't associate the two like they mean 376 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: such different things. Yeah, that's just me maybe. And that 377 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: brings us to and another strike at the Hormel plant 378 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: in Austin, Minnesota. Over the sixties and seventies, employee satisfaction 379 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: had been on the rise, but this article that I 380 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: read about the three strike ended this way. Most workers 381 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: in the prospering Hormel Company in the nineteen sixties and 382 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: seventies who remembered or read about the history of their 383 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: union concluded that the hard times were behind them. They 384 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: should be forgiven for entertaining that illusion. That does not 385 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: sound good. Nope. By five, the company had fallen out 386 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: of the Hormel family's hands and the new leadership was 387 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: not as great um they were using the promise of 388 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: building this new state of the art labor conditions improving 389 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: plant too kind of let the union let them destroy 390 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: worker benefits, especially for the butchery end of the business, 391 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: and Hormel enacted wage drop on top of that. Starting 392 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: in August of five, the union workers walked out and 393 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: stayed out for thirteen months. National Guard had to be 394 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: called in to protect workers who crossed the picket lines 395 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: and to break up roadblocks. Eventually, the national union that 396 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: had been supporting this local branch dropped them, thus effectively 397 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: ending the strike. The company was able to hire people 398 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: back at just a penny per hour, more than that 399 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: twenty three percent wage drop rate, and would begin hiring 400 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: a lot of immigrants with perhaps less than scrupulously checked 401 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: documentation who are willing to work for those lower wages. 402 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: Uh In, Hormel leased off the butchery side of its 403 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: Austin plant to a third party company or third party 404 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: on paper anyway. The new company was Quality Pork Processors Incorporated, 405 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: which exclusively purchased Hormel owned hogs and exclusively sold the 406 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: process meat back to Hormel, all using the space and 407 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: the machines that currently belonged to Hormel and were housed 408 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: in the same plant um. This led to another year 409 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: long strike, but the union eventually settled, and as subcontractors, 410 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: QPP could hire a workforce at lower wages than those 411 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: that Hormel had furnished to their unionized workers. In the 412 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: first Spam museum opened in Austin. It would be revamped 413 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand one. Oh yeah, and spam has sponsored 414 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: a car in the NASCAR Winston Cup Series. A couple 415 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: of years later, the Smithsonian received a Spam tin donation. 416 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: During the recession in the two thousands, spam sales and 417 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: production increased, with employees being offered as much overtime as 418 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: they could handle spam. Spam has been called an economic 419 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: indicators be mentioned earlier for its predictable increase in sales 420 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: during rough financial times, and this production increase led to 421 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: a really tragic series of nerve damage related disabilities in 422 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: q PP butcher workers. This was actually sort of a 423 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: landmark medical discovery. I remember reading about it during a 424 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: previous gig copy editing medical journal articles. But yes, well, 425 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: welcome again to Lawrence Killjoy Corner. Okay, So, the way 426 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: that large scale pig butchering works is that different parts 427 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: of the animal would be dealt with by skilled workers 428 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: and or particular machinery in different rooms. All parts of 429 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: the meat are separated from the bones for use. Everything 430 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: on the pig is edible. The brain, which is shipped 431 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: to Asia for use as a thickening agent, used to 432 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: be removed from the skull cavity with this high pressure 433 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: jet of water which sort of liquefies the tissues that 434 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: it can be collected. Part of that liquid sort of 435 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: air solis is due to the high pressure used in 436 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: getting it out, and the workers that part of the 437 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: factory that that the head part would breathe in a 438 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: whole bunch of it and more of it, more and 439 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: more of it as the line speed increased from handling 440 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: nine hundred heads per hour in to one thousand, three 441 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: hundred fifty per hour in two thousand six. And okay, 442 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: when you when you breathe in foreign particles that your 443 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: body is like, this doesn't belong here. Um, your your 444 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: immune system. The workers immune systems were doing what they 445 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: were supposed to do. They were attacking the particles and 446 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: remembering to attack similar particles later. Unfortunately, human nerve cells 447 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: and pig nerve cells are similar enough that these workers 448 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: started developing an autoimmune condition where their immune system was 449 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: attacking their own nerves, causing eventual loss of fine motor 450 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: skills and fatigue and other sometimes permanent symptoms. That's awful, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 451 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: it sucks. Uh and QPP working again inside the Hormale facility, 452 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: but without Hormel's Better Worker Compensation and Protection pack, which 453 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: is did not really handle it well. Um. They did 454 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: stop harvesting brains, but evidence collected for an expose in 455 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,479 Speaker 1: Mother Jones suggests that they silenced the injured workers by 456 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: threatening their jobs or their immigration status. Who and then 457 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: oh boy keeps going it does in. QPP was embroiled 458 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: in an animal cruelty scandal when a video of poor 459 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: conditions on the killing floor was leaked, apparently by employees. UM. 460 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: The Food Safety and Inspection Services Administration also collected evidence 461 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: that the space was not in compliance with federal regulations. However, 462 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: neither the county nor the U. S d A took 463 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,719 Speaker 1: further action, and in seventeen a state court denied an 464 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: advocacy group a search warrant of the QPP facilities on 465 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: the grounds that their leads were too old. Leads were 466 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: too old. This is ongoing, but as ofen there are 467 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of headlines about spam making like a trendy 468 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: come back with pash chefs that are tapping into that 469 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: fun feeling of nostalgia. Isn't nostalgia great? I love I 470 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: love nostalgia. That's my favorite. Well, that's um the end 471 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: of Laurence Killjoy Corner for now. Yes, so we were 472 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: We still have some more science to talk about, we do, 473 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: and that part's kind of great. Yes, first, one last 474 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. 475 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsored, Yes, thank you. Um So spam for 476 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: all of those other things that I just said, is 477 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: an amazing edible science experiment. In order to create a 478 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: stable loaf, cheaply and consistently, you, as Annie said earlier, 479 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: mix the meat in a vacuum vacuum, seal it into cans, 480 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: and then you cook the whole cans. You cook it 481 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: in the cook in the can. Oh wow really yeah yeah? 482 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: Otherwise the meat if you don't do it in in 483 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: in that way, the meat will break down during cooking 484 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: and you're left with just this small loaf and a 485 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: lot of like juice and or gelatine. Yeah. Um. But 486 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: before you even get there, you've got to find a 487 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: way to prepare the meat. Uh spam uses shoulder meat 488 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: mixed with a little buck slash thigh meat that might 489 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: be cured and flavored, otherwise known as ham. The shoulder 490 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: meat is inexpensive because it's such a pain in the 491 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: ham to debone. Um Hormel does it by putting the 492 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: shoulders through a hydraulic press that squeezes the meat off 493 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: the bone. The meat is ground and measured for fat consistency, 494 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: then mixed with the other ingredients and thousand pound batches 495 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: cannot comprehend. The cans are then cooked in a hydrostatic cooker, 496 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: which is it's so cool or it's hot first but 497 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: then cool. It consists of at least four towers that 498 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 1: are stacked vertically and kind of bring cans up and 499 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: then down in in this sort of like like half loop. Okay, 500 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: so so you've got four towers. At least, you've got 501 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: a steam tower that holds pressurized saturated steam at the 502 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: temperature that you want to cook the cans at. Then 503 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: you've got two warm water filled towers on either end 504 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: of the steam tower, which brings your cans up near 505 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: to cooking temperature and then back down out of it. 506 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: And also this is the cool part keeps the steam 507 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: tower pressurized at the same time physics. Then you've got 508 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: a cooling tower that uses a cool water sprays to 509 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: bring the cans safely back to like processing temperature. Setups 510 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: can also have a preheating and multiple cooking and cooling 511 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: towers or sections, and I'm not totally positive what Cormell uses. 512 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: It says They're setup has eleven chambers so that the 513 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: cans move vertically through, with the whole thing being six 514 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: stories tall and capable of processing sixty six thousand cans 515 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: over the span of two hours. M h A, right, bra, 516 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how much more it can take. Laurence 517 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: after after it comes out of that process, the cans 518 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: are labeled, packed and eventually shipped out. That is pretty cool. Yeah, 519 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: this this is another This is another episode that I 520 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: was like, oh, oh, this is Oh I don't know, 521 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can buy that product anymore. Yeah, 522 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: I really want to try locomoko. This is the challenge. 523 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: Just yeah, I wonder if there's a different I mean 524 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: there there are plenty of There are definitely plenty of 525 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: like canned meat products out there. It's it's all about, 526 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, find finding someone that does something 527 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: more more ethically hopefully. Uh. And I guess that's kind 528 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: of like the like slightly feel good takeaway listen of this, 529 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: Like when something is that cheap, there is a cost somewhere, 530 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: yes to someone. Yeah. And so our coworker bimbole And 531 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: wrote an excellent short story. It's published somewhere. I can't 532 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: recall where, but I think it's some Southern writing magazine. 533 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: And I just remember so well because it was all 534 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: about a consumer just reaching foreign orange. But he was 535 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: telling it based on like the consumers reaching for the orange, 536 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: and then it was sort of what went into getting 537 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: that orange to you, And he was describing just like 538 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: the working conditions and the death. So it took to 539 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: and you were making a choice based on price. But 540 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: on the other side of it, there's all there's all 541 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: stuff and it's stuck with me. I read it years 542 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: ago and I still think about it. It's very good. Um, 543 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: maybe maybe we can ask him and we can post 544 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: it somewhere. Yeah, we'll see about that. And before we 545 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: closed out this episode, I have two notes Lauren. Okay. 546 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: The first is mid episode, we had kind of a 547 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: crisis of food stuff crisis where we realized we're not 548 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: entirely sure how to pronounced from Hormel. Yeah. I thought 549 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 1: that I read somewhere during our research that it's hormal 550 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: and wait, and I still saying that's the same way 551 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: I think you said horrible hormle. Yeah, but we've been 552 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: saying hermel anyway. We recovered and soldiers on because we 553 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: found no evidence to suggest otherwise. But we did have 554 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: a mini crisis, and um. The other thing is I 555 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: another many crisis. I've realized that we should have introduced 556 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: ourselves with spam names. And I'm not willing to go 557 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: back and re record the end show, but I should 558 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: have said, Lauren Vogel spam. My name doesn't really lend 559 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: itself as well. But BAMMI reese, Yes, Okay, I can 560 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: dig it. Okay, I can dig it. Okay, So that 561 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: is the end of our spam episode and it brings 562 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: us to listener. We really have no idea. We don't 563 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: plan any of that. One got weird, Okay, I did, 564 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: so you have one from Twitter? Correct? Yeah. Anie Dodal, 565 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: which is also high fives for your screen name wrote 566 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: in about our Star Trek episode and said, I loved this, 567 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: but can we really know that replicator food is ethical? 568 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: Where does dilithium come from? How our conditions for the 569 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: workers who produce it? Certainly in the Klingon Empire it 570 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: is sometimes mined by prisoners. No way, the Federation doesn't 571 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: use any prisoner di lithium. We didn't think about that, Lauren, 572 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: We did not, but thank you, Yes, that was the 573 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: best tweet. Thank you, um. And also about our Star 574 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: Trek episode, thanks to everyone who reminded us about in 575 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: a iconic Star Chek food slash really drink that we 576 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: missed rock do gin no, which is a popular thing 577 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: on coffee drink. It was in our notes, but um, 578 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: in our excitement, I guess we skipped over it. So 579 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:43,959 Speaker 1: not kapla, Lauren, bad kapla. I let that be listen 580 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: to us all, Yes, not Kapla and also one final 581 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: Star Trek note. Thanks to listener Hillary for sending us 582 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: images of the Star Trek beer labels her husband design 583 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: there Fantastic, so fantastic, beautiful. I believe she posted them 584 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: on Facebook page. I think so. Yeah, maybe within our 585 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: post about the episode, so you can go find that 586 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: if you would like to write, they're gorgeous. They are 587 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: all right onto some email correspondences we've received, Sarah wrote 588 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: in about our Lunar New Year episode. Obviously New Year 589 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: traditions are different in each Chinese household, but generally in 590 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: the North that people eat dumplings jas and in the 591 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: south rice cakes nan gao and sticky rice balls yuan 592 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: jiao or tang yuan a k a sweet rice dumplings 593 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: usually stuffed with red bean paste, black sesame paste, or 594 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: peanut paste. This is largely due to the agricultural layout 595 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: of China because of soil and climate difference, with the 596 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: Hawaii River as a dividing line, the main starchy crop 597 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: of the northern part of China is wheat, while the 598 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: southern part is rice. I believe we talked about this 599 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: in our rice episode. Hence, Northern culture pervers prefers doughy foods, noodles, buns, pancakes, 600 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: et cetera, while the Southern prefers ice products, rice, noodles, 601 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: riss cakes, etcetera. The town I grew up in is 602 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: right on the bank of Hawaii Rivers, so we do both. 603 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: But my father's side of the family is from the Northwest, 604 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: so we take our doughy foods very seriously, and I 605 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: mean very Everyone in my family has their own rolling 606 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: pin used for rolling out the dumpling wraps from a 607 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: rope of dough. When a baby is born, he or 608 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: she gets her own rolling pin made right then, and 609 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: as soon as he or she is old enough, he 610 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: or she can participate in the family dumpling making tradition 611 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: of New Year's Eve. One was made for me when 612 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: I was born, and it's been with me the whole 613 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: time growing up, then later across the Pacific to a 614 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: new country. I went to grad school and Syraccus and 615 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: now live and work in Manhattan, and the rolling pin 616 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: goes wherever I go. It is now here with me 617 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: in my kitchen. I haven't been home for New Year's 618 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: celebration for five years, but every year my family and 619 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 1: I Skype while we make dumplings, each with our own 620 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: rolling pin. My dad produces dumpling wraps at the speed 621 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: of Aposta machine. I wish I had a video clip 622 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: to show you. I don't, but attached our photos to 623 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: show my parents jumbling effort this past Chinese New Year. 624 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: The picture, by the way, so many dumplings. They look 625 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: so good. I've been in the US for almost five 626 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: years and I host an Orphans dinner every year with 627 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: some classmates and friends who are just like me, away 628 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: from home, trying to build a life of our own 629 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: and different country. Because very much like Christmas, this holiday 630 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: is about the feast, the decorations, the sales that gifts, 631 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: the grand celebration, but most importantly is about people we love, 632 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: and no one should be alone, no matter where they are. Yes, 633 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: I love that so sweet. Oh that is and that's 634 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: so that's such a great cultural note. Oh thank you 635 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: so much for sending that in Yes, thank you, and 636 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: also wrote in a recent listener mail. Another listener mentioned 637 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: going abroad and enjoying a sauce made of mayonnaise and 638 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: ketchup that the restaurant called America Sauce. I was very 639 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: surprised to learn that this is actually not something that 640 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: all of America does. Nope, I am a child of them, Terry, 641 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: and even though I am American, from the age of three, 642 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: all the way up until sixteen, I lived in Europe 643 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: because of my dad's job. At the age of sixteen, 644 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: I moved to Utah and have lived there ever since. 645 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: It's been about twelve years now. When I moved to Utah, 646 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: I saw this strange pink sauce as well, and everyone 647 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: there seemed to know what it was. It in fact, 648 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: was even bottled and sold in some stores there. It 649 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: was ketchup and mayonnaise mixed together, and it was known 650 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: as fry sauce. It's in pretty much every local restaurant 651 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: in the area. People generally make it at home, and 652 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: some restaurants even add extra things like pickle juice and 653 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: lemon to give it a tangy flavor. Fry sauce is 654 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: a staple here in Utah, and from what I understand, 655 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: it's pretty prevalent in the surrounding states such as Idaho 656 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: and Wyoming. Even though I've lived in the United States 657 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: for twelve years now, I'm still learning what is regional 658 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: and what is something that persists throughout all of the 659 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: United States just goes to show you how vast this 660 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 1: country is. Yes, Um, several people wrote in about I 661 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: I've never hung out in Utah No, and I think 662 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: now that they think about it. I saw fung comparisons 663 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: to Yum yum sauce from Vinny Hannah. I don't know 664 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: if that's what it is or not. But Jared also 665 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: wrote in, and he said, um, but the most important 666 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: part is to tell to tell you that the icon 667 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: level of fry sauce is best epitomized by the fact 668 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: that the two thousand in two Winter Games in Salt 669 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: Lake City, one of the tradable Olympic pins was a 670 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: depiction of fry sauce. What. Yes, I want one of 671 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: these so badly. Oh that's great. And another one another 672 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: of these tradable Olympic pins, which I didn't know that 673 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: was the thing. Um is green jello with carrots. Oh yeah, 674 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah, um, weird but great, I do. It's 675 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: kind of cool that there are these regional things that 676 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, that we just never heard about. I know. 677 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for letting us know. Jacob also 678 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: wrote in, and Heather wrote in, Yeah, thank you, Yeah. 679 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone who wrote in, and you too 680 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: can write to us. Our email is food stuff at 681 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: houstas dot com. We're also on social media. You can 682 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,959 Speaker 1: find us on Facebook and Twitter at food Stuff. Hs 683 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: W stands for how Stuff Works. We're also on Instagram 684 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: at food Stuff. We hope so much to hear from you. 685 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: Thank you to our producer Dylan Fagan, Thanks to y'all 686 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: for listening, and we hope that lots more good things 687 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: are coming your way.