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Speaker 1: So my name is Britney Spannis. I'm a senior writer

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Speaker 1: tabulated from obviously people who work at Rolling Stone, but

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Speaker 1: also a lot of other journalists and writers, you know,

441
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Speaker 1: industry figures, musicians, and you know, it's a combination of

442
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Speaker 1: people who work in music who are voting on this.

443
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 1: So it's tabulated from just, you know, hundreds of voters.

444
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Speaker 2: And each episode you walk through a particular focal point

445
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 2: off of that five hundred Greatest Songs list in no

446
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Speaker 2: particular order.

447
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, I mean basically, Rob and I just

448
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: kind of looked through the list when we were sort

449
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Speaker 1: of brainstorming the pods, what it would sound like, what

450
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 1: it would what we wanted it to be. You just

451
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: kind of picked a bunch of songs that we really loved,

452
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: you know, like we picked like fifty songs from the list.

453
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: So we don't really want to do it, you know,

454
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: like go in chronological order, like you kind of just

455
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: like it just feels like we're going to miss a

456
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: lot of stuff because there's so much. There's five hundred songs.

457
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,719
Speaker 1: We don't know if we're going to do five hundred episodes.

458
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: It's a lot of songs to clear, but you know,

459
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: we're trying to get through as many as possible and

460
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: as many that you know, we feel passionately about. So yeah,

461
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 1: we just kind of put together a list of songs that, like,

462
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: I think especially for Robin Hu, you are like what

463
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: are songs that we talk about all the time, and

464
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Speaker 1: like what's what are songs that like he and I

465
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Speaker 1: have done a karaoke and like, you know, have had

466
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Speaker 1: conversations about and artists that we love or artists that

467
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Speaker 1: maybe we just are not writing about as much that

468
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: we kind of just like want to talk about and

469
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Speaker 1: get into. So it was fun to just kind of

470
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Speaker 1: randomly pick songs that we were passionate about and went

471
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Speaker 1: from there. So so yeah, I was kind of a random,

472
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Speaker 1: random assortment of things that we were really excited to

473
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Speaker 1: talk that.

474
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Speaker 2: I like the one that you did that sort of

475
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: did the deep dive into hound Dog, Yeah, and talk

476
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Speaker 2: about that and how you've focused on Big Mama Thornton

477
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Speaker 2: and all that.

478
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was so. I mean, obviously, like

479
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: I said, like a lot of the songs were just

480
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: us choosing things that we really loved, but there was

481
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Speaker 1: a lot of songs that we chose that had sort

482
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Speaker 1: of a significance in how different the two lists were.

483
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Speaker 1: So for that one, it was kind of the debut

484
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Speaker 1: of Big Mama Thornton's version of hound Dog on the

485
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Speaker 1: list was a big deal versus the Elvis Presley version,

486
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Speaker 1: and we thought that'd be really great to talk about

487
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: and to discuss just because that signified a law of

488
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Speaker 1: changes in Elvis's legacy at the time that the list happened.

489
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Speaker 1: But also, of course the biopic on Elvis came out

490
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: in the time since, and so that was a kind

491
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Speaker 1: of like an interesting thing to sort of ponder about

492
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: what the list would look like in the future because

493
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: of this new interest from younger fans, but also kind

494
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Speaker 1: of the way that the story of nig Maama Thornton

495
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: and this song has been highlighted over the years was

496
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Speaker 1: something that we really wanted to touch on in the

497
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Speaker 1: process of making the episode, so that one was one

498
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Speaker 1: where we knew that it was a great way to

499
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Speaker 1: talk about both lists and sort of the time and place,

500
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Speaker 1: because I think that's so fascinating about each of the list,

501
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: about kind of what changes in kind of cultural significance

502
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: and what we sort of how the canon shifts over

503
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: such a quick period, and that's entirely based on who

504
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: the voters are and of you know, when you get

505
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Speaker 1: a new batch of voters, you know a lot of obviously,

506
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Speaker 1: you know, I was not voting in the first list,

507
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: so it's you know, you have a lot of voters

508
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: who are around my age who are voting for the

509
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Speaker 1: first time, and the twenty twenty one list, we're going

510
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Speaker 1: to have a new batch of voters in the next list. Like,

511
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting and fun to kind of think

512
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Speaker 1: about how that kind of shifts and what matters to

513
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: different generations.

514
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Speaker 2: You know, we had done this podcast a guy named

515
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Speaker 2: Charles lockwadera who used to work for me years ago

516
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Speaker 2: on a radio station I programmed in Boston, WZLX, and

517
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Speaker 2: Charles before coming to ZLX, worked at this iconic rock

518
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: station in Boston, WBCN, and I remember he told me

519
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: the story that he was walking down the halls at

520
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Speaker 2: BCN one time and he was whistling, and Big Mama

521
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: Thornton happened to be in the radio station and she

522
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Speaker 2: told him stop whistling. Just the visual of that, if

523
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Speaker 2: you knew Charles, It's funny enough. A guy, a powerful

524
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Speaker 2: personality being put in his place by a legend.

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Speaker 3: I just love it.

526
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Speaker 2: I love it.

527
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Speaker 4: We'll be right back with more of the Taking a

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Speaker 4: Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast.

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Speaker 2: So I don't want to play the role of Rob

530
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: Sheffield here, but I thought maybe we could walk through

531
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: counting down from number ten to number one on the

532
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 2: list and kind of get your take on some of

533
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: these here and give people a flavor of what they

534
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: would experience in your great podcast, Rolling Stones five hundred

535
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: Greatest Songs of All Time? You gained for that, yeah,

536
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: of course, Okay, So I'll do like the big drum

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Speaker 2: Roll number ten outcast hey, y'ah.

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00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is, in my opinion, one of

539
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: the best pop singles and I think one of the

540
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: sort of the highlights of the early two thousands. I

541
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: feel like this was a song that really defined an

542
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: entire sort of period of pop and rap music. And

543
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, I was really excited to kind of see

544
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: it and rank so high. There's a lot of there's

545
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: a several songs about outcasts on a list, but obviously

546
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: this song kind of broke through a lot the noise

547
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: in the two thousands and made such a big impact

548
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: on a lot of younger artists, but also just like

549
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: on this entire period of music, and it makes a

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00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: lot of sense that it cracked the top ten.

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Speaker 2: And I defy when you hear that song, if you're

552
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: in a bad mood and then you hear it, you

553
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: can't be in a bad mood anymore.

554
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: You really cannot. If you hear it, shake it like

555
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: a polarid picture and you don't smile. That's like blasphemy exactly.

556
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Speaker 3: Okay. Number nine Fleetwood Mac Dreams.

557
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this was the pilot of the podcast

558
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: Rob and I we need to talk about this song.

559
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: This song did not make it to the first list.

560
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: This was actually a debut from Dreams on the twenty

561
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: twenty one list, and again it's you know, so much

562
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: so interesting to think about what Fleetwood Math has done

563
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: over the last I guess like decade without even trying

564
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: in terms of becoming even more popular. You know, I

565
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: opened my TikTok and like it's constantly like Fleetwood Mac

566
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: songs and teenagers talking about Stevie Nicks are trying to

567
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: dress like her, and you know, it's just like so

568
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: crazy and cool as someone who's love Flutwood Mac for

569
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: a very long time to kind of see them get

570
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: more popular as theaters go by, and especially Stevie Nicks,

571
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: Like people are just so fascinated by her, and she's

572
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: someone who's just you know, like we were talking about

573
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift earlier, like she's just someone who she is.

574
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: She is herself, Like she is just like being who

575
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: she is as an artist, and she's been that way

576
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: her entire career without doing a bunch of like crazy

577
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: kind of changes and shifts to her identity, Like she

578
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: is just she is Stevie Nicks. And that is classic, legendary,

579
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: like timeless in and of itself, and This song is

580
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: just I mean lyrically beautiful. I mean, Lindsay's guitar on

581
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: it is just like so hypnotic, so smooth. It's such

582
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: a great kind of like breezy song, and I just

583
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Speaker 1: I'm addicted to it.

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Speaker 2: I was just at the Rock Hall of Fame we

585
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: recorded a little walk through their episode and saw Stevie

586
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: Nix's or one of her dresses on display there.

587
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was imagining that.

588
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, she probably would still wear that dress today.

589
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: She definitely would.

590
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: You know.

591
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: She still comes out with like shawls from the you know,

592
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties and brings them on stage and it's like,

593
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: this is the shawl I wore on the Rumor's Tour,

594
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: you know, like she just has them. Yeah. I mean

595
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: she's really she is who she is. I was like,

596
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: so she is so authentic to who she's been because

597
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: that's just her and it works.

598
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Speaker 2: Number eight Missy Elliott Get Your Freak Gone.

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Speaker 1: This is another really really fun episode that Rob and

600
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: I recorded. I mean, you know, there's it could have

601
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: been really any Missy Elliott song in the top ten.

602
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: I think she is like one of the most forward

603
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: thinking artists of the last you know, thirty years. Like

604
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: she is so inventive with her music videos, with her production,

605
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: with her wrap flow, like she made so many she

606
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: has made like so many incredibly massive hits by being

607
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: the weirdest person on the charts at all times. Like,

608
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, I think this is a really great example

609
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: of like her and Timbaland's chemistry. This is like such

610
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: a great you know, there's this all these like kind

611
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: of like world music elements to how it was made,

612
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: and I mean just you know, it's that mix of

613
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: she's such a great kind of like poppy, you know,

614
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: really great. She loves with like dance music, you know,

615
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: but also is just a genuinely incredible MC. You know,

616
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: I think, like deeply underrated in her own sort of

617
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: obviously kind of the inventiveness of hers. The biggest part

618
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: of the conversation with was the Elliott, But like her

619
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: flow and her rapping is just like unparalleled, unmatched.

620
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Speaker 2: Number seven The Beatles Strawberry Fields.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I again, like it's always I'm with

622
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: the voters and like kind of what happens, Like it's

623
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: like so fascinating that this is the Beatles song. I'm

624
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 1: curiously you know, Rob and I talk about this all

625
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: the time, where it's like, even three years later, would

626
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: this still be the Beatles song that everyone would vote for?

627
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: Because it could change at any time. It could be

628
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: any any Beatle song kind of is changing in popularity,

629
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Speaker 1: and you know, influence and impact even just in what

630
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: you hear on the radio constantly. And I mean this

631
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Speaker 1: is this was not the Beatles song I voted for,

632
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: But I do love this song. I think I love

633
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: sort of all the like psychedelic influence on them, and

634
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think this is you know, it's always

635
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: kind of fascinating to kind of see, especially with artists

636
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: like Beatles or Bob Dylan or The Stones who kind

637
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: of have all these like massively influential hips, what sort

638
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: of rises up in each of these kind of voting periods.

639
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: Which Beatles song did you vote for?

640
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: So I've had to put drive my Car because I

641
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: love RUBBERSA and I think that was like a perfect

642
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: song and I think it's so good. So that was

643
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: the one that I had put on my list.

644
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: Ever interview a Beatle, No, I think.

645
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Speaker 1: I would actually be too nervous. I think like there'd

646
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: be people like I don't really get starstruck anymore. But

647
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: I genuinely when I saw Paul McCartney live, like that

648
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: was like an out of body experience, just because I

649
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe I'm here. It's just like

650
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: it felt like it just felt like insane that he

651
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: exists and that I got to see him live at

652
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: any point in my life. So yeah, I don't know.

653
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: I think I'd be way too too neenervous.

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Speaker 2: To do it.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

656
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Speaker 2: Number six Marvin Gaye What's going on?

657
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Marvin gay topped the album's list. I

658
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: actually am surprised that the song didn't go a little

659
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: bit higher on the list because this album was number

660
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: one on the most recent Boat of the Black Uncher

661
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: Greatest Albums. But I mean this song has had sort

662
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: of this kind of like timeless meaning to it. I mean,

663
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: still as prescient and urgent now as it was when

664
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: it first came out. And you know again, just I mean,

665
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: Marvin gay I think, is someone who is, like has

666
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: proven to be one of the most endurant artists of

667
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: all times, someone who's kind of generationally kind of defies

668
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: any sort of generational odds with that, And so I

669
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: think this song Yeah, again, I was surprised that didn't

670
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: actually kind of go to the top thirty on this

671
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: list because of the album list. But you know, I think,

672
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: especially again thinking about the timing of the voting, like

673
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: this was at a time sort of the vote happened

674
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: shortly after a lot of the Black Lives Matter protests,

675
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: Like I think this song was weighing really heavy on

676
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 1: a lot of people's minds at that time as well.

677
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 3: Number five Nirvana smells like teen.

678
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: Spirit, you know, another one where it's like this song

679
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: is always going to be in I think the top

680
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: five or top ten, Like Nirvana was actually talking of

681
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: the about this with the colleague recently. There are still

682
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: so many teens and pre teens who just find themselves

683
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: drawn to this song and to Kurt Cobain into Nirvana,

684
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: like that will keep happening. It's like basically a puberty

685
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: rite of passage at this point that you have to

686
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: become a Nirvana fan when you're you know, eleven, twelve

687
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: and then just kind of carry that for the rest

688
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: of your kind of light probably, but also just your

689
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: adolescence definitely. And this song is, you know, such a

690
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: defining moment for an entire decade and for an entire generation,

691
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: but has continued to be kind of this massive touchstone

692
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: for anyone exploring that and too, you know, I think

693
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: every again, like every teenager kind of finds themselves drawn

694
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: to Nirvana at some point, I did, like still.

695
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: A number four Bob Dylan like a rolling stone.

696
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, like this is a song that

697
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I'm always kind of surprised that

698
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: this is still like the Bob Dylan song that people

699
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: still kind of really love and or job. I mean,

700
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: there's just again, like there's so many, there's so many

701
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: great songs to and go to, but you know, the

702
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: song it's like one of his like poppier songs, is

703
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: even like kind of like one of the just like

704
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: that that kind of classic Bob Dylan moment, and you know,

705
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 1: it's a song then again, will I think will always

706
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: be in the top ten of the list. I think

707
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: people will always buy themselves voting for this because it's

708
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: such like a feed of songwriting, of his musicianship, of

709
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: this like shift in his own career and his own

710
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: identity as an artist, and you know, I think that

711
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: this will this will always be kind of a top

712
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: build song for future lists.

713
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 3: Any chance you'd ever interview.

714
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: I think I don't know. It seems like it's kind

715
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: of a difficult interview, like you, I don't know. I

716
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: think my interview and style wouldn't measure with him. I

717
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: think I'm too like you know, I don't know. Maybe

718
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: he'd be trying by me.

719
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: I think he would be.

720
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: I actually I believe that.

721
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: Did you ever see this Martha Quinn interview that she

722
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: did with him back in the mid eighties, I don't

723
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 2: think so. Oh you got to check it out, because

724
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: he's obviously smitten with her. Yeah, so he's a little

725
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: more loose and open, and it's still odd beyond belief.

726
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: You know.

727
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: Maybe I would kind of appreciate the oddness. I would

728
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: want him to like buy to me a bunch, you know,

729
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: like I want like one of those like classic Bob Dylan,

730
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: like he's just making up stuff the entire time type

731
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: of interviews.

732
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: Right. Well, you mentioned starstruck. I got to share this

733
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: with you and with our audience. I had the opportunity

734
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: to be introduced to him at one point, and I

735
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: was massively starstruck, of course, because it was like with

736
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: ten of us and he made eye contact with us

737
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 2: upon the introduction, and then that was the last eye

738
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: contact we had during our fifteen minutes or whatever that

739
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: we had you know, backstage before he went on. And

740
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: but he then says at one point, anybody want to

741
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: do his shadow whiskey? And and I don't think any

742
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: of us took him up on it, but I didn't.

743
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: And it's one of my only regrets that I really

744
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: shared life, because I'll never have that opportunity to do

745
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 2: that again.

746
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: Take the shot of whiskey from Bob Doyling.

747
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: They really, I'm surprised you're not hanging up on me,

748
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 2: like saying, why am I talking to this maroon here?

749
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: Was it before or after he launched the Knock It

750
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: on Heaven's Store?

751
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: Was before?

752
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: Oh wow?

753
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? Before yeah? And then the show that we went

754
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: to that that was at that same event. It was

755
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: one of those classic Bob really craps the bed shows,

756
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: which you know he said, people of you know, but boy,

757
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: what a what a treasure? My god. I could go

758
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: on and on, but I can't because we're off the

759
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: number three Sam Cook, A change is gonna come.

760
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean this song has I feel

761
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: like has especially in the last couple of decades become

762
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: sort of a modern standard. You know, I think this

763
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: is a song that you know, we see a lot

764
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: of artists cover and kind of be drawn to and

765
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: kind of drawn just both in terms of thematically but

766
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: also Sam Cook's incredible voice. But you know, this is

767
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: a song that's become like one of those very very

768
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: timeless kind of musical standards, like this is a song

769
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: that again there's there's several songs and that there's you know,

770
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: half of the top ten. I would say probably will

771
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: continue to stay that way for a very long time

772
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: because those songs are just you know, they are the

773
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: song that people continue to turn to no matter what

774
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: and find themselves drawn to. And I think this is

775
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: this is one of them.

776
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: Number two Public and Me Fight the Power.

777
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think you know this them as

778
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: as a group, but also this song itself. I was

779
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: very pleasantly surprised to kind of see that voters again

780
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: still very very drawn to Public Enemy, drawn to their messages,

781
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: drawn to this particular song. You know, I think that

782
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: I was. I was really excited to kind of see

783
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: this rank so highly on the list and continue to

784
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: endure for a lot of people, and you know, the

785
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: album would We did an episode on the album as well,

786
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: and that album also ranked I believe number two as

787
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: well on the album's list. And you know, I think

788
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: those messages, that urgency, that that you know, kind of

789
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: intensity and just I know, their flows and just the

790
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: way they perform is such a major influence on everything

791
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,479
Speaker 1: we hear today, but also just continues to be much

792
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: like What's going On, still very prescient in this time

793
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: and era.

794
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: Number one drum Roll Aretha Franklin.

795
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: Respect Yeah, I mean I was, Yeah, I think I

796
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: loved seeing Areada hit number one on this list. This

797
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: is a classic song, so fun. I mean, it's like,

798
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: imagine not knowing the lyrics to the song, you know,

799
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: like it's like a song that you just kind of

800
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: it's with you your entire life. You don't know at

801
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: what point you've met it, but it's been there. It's

802
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: like an old friend, you know. You're just like the

803
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: song has been by me since I was born, you know,

804
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: And I think for a lot of people, it's this

805
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: This is the type of song that much like, hey,

806
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: if you heard it in the wild and you don't smile,

807
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: that is insane. That is it? Would be crazy to

808
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: hear the song, you know, not immediately start singing along

809
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: because you know every single lyric and every single little

810
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: like vocal intonation that Averretha does and it's like stuck

811
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: in your brain forever, and that is a sign of

812
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: a great song.

813
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: So let's break down some of the other fun facts. So,

814
00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: most represented artists or music on the list. Oh, yeah,

815
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: I know the Beatles is the is the most represented?

816
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 2: Is that correct? Yes?

817
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: I believe the Beatles are. I know. We actually just

818
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: recorded an episode on Beyonce and she's the youngest artist.

819
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: Who's the most represented youngest artists. That's why I way

820
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: to wait say it, but yeah, she's But yeah, the

821
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: Beatles and who else I think the Stones have of

822
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: David Bowie.

823
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: I think it's Beatles, dill In Bowie, Stone.

824
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: Stones, then Prince and Beyonce and Bruce kind of our

825
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: up there. But yeah, the Beatles have twelve songs on

826
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: the list. And you know, again, this is why I think,

827
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: like it'll be fascinating to see in another ten years

828
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: or whatever, the next time we do a big vote

829
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: on this list, what Beatles song is up there? Because

830
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: I think that changes constantly in terms of musical influence

831
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: because they're one of those bands that are still extremely

832
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: popular that young fans are still being drawn to that people.

833
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: You know, if you're picking up a guitar today, you're

834
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: probably gonna learn a Beatles song on it. You know

835
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: you've picked up for the first time, Like that's gonna

836
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: be one of the first, like few songs you want

837
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: to learn. So I'm always kind of curious, like what

838
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: what shifts and what changes and which which songs by

839
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: a band like the Beatles will continue to evolve and

840
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: be popular the next time we do a big goal

841
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: like this.

842
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: How riled up do people get, you know, if they

843
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: disagree about you know, somebody.

844
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: Not being on a list or where they are.

845
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, every every list, people get so so mad. This

846
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: one obviously a lot of intense feelings around the list,

847
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's the conversation around it lasted like like

848
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: so long. I tapped out after a while of reading

849
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: people's takes on it after it dropped. But people, really,

850
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: they love to argue over this stuff, and they always

851
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: have strong feelings and there sometimes I'll meet people in

852
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, rand parties or at like dinners or things

853
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: like that, and I'll say where I work, and they

854
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: immediately are like, I didn't like that this song didn't

855
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: make the top ten of the album's or songs list,

856
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't change that. And also, what

857
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: was your name?

858
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: Again? I have one bone to pick on the list?

859
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah you want to hear it? Okay, you might see

860
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: behind me if you could kind of squint. There's a

861
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: picture up on the wall back there. It's John Prine.

862
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you only have one John Prine on the list,

863
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 2: which I think is number three hundred and fifty Angel

864
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: from Montgomery.

865
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 3: Why not more John Prine on the list?

866
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: You know, we got we gotta get the voters. We

867
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: gotta get people. You gotta vote in the next one,

868
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: Like get the John Fine on there. I mean, like,

869
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: I think, even like on staff, we all have like

870
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: bones to pick with it, you know, Like I think

871
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: that there should be more like pop punk songs on

872
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: the list. I think that there's a lot of huge

873
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: influence that those songs have had, and I would like

874
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Speaker 1: to see more of that represented. You know, I think

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00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: everyone has like their own sort of qualms, even in

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00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: this building.

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Speaker 2: I would bet on the next list, Beyonce's latest has

878
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: to be on it.

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00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, I mean, I think definitely.

880
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: I'm really really curious. I think she's going to jump

881
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: up a lot in the next vote of it. I

882
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: think she'll jump up a lot. I think Taylor Spect

883
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: will jump up a lot. And I'm curious what that's

884
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: how to look like on the on the next vote,

885
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: because you know, the cannon's change and I think you

886
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: know we're if you're looking at Especially again, so much

887
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: of this marks what's influencing culture at the moment that

888
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: it's being voted on. So I think those are going

889
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: to be two artists to kind of especially in comparison

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00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: to the other artists who have a lot of songs

891
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: on the list. I think they're going to be two

892
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: of the youngest artists to have the most songs on

893
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: the list. The next time we do a big vote

894
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: like this, what should take on her Country?

895
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: The album?

896
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm a big fan of it. I

897
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: love country music, I love Beyonce. It's really kind of

898
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: a dream album for me. It's like a really like

899
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: a you know, combination of things that I really enjoy,

900
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: but also like you know, it's not like a super

901
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: straightforward country album, which I like it's like a lot

902
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: of like kind of cowboy Western themes to it, a

903
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: lot of big rock moments, a lot of like kind

904
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: of like Tina Turner esque kind of tributes, especially like

905
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: a song like Yah Yah, which I absolutely adore on there,

906
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: but it's just kind of like a bun Southern moment

907
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: from her, and I'm a big fan of it. I've

908
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: been listening to a NonStop.

909
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: Do you think Morgan Wallen would make it on the list?

910
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: You know? I pro maybe, you know, again, like it's

911
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: it depends on when we do the next quote right,

912
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: like I think, you know, I guess it was nearly

913
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: two decades in between. We did like a sort of

914
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: like refresh in twenty ten of the list without a

915
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: big vote, But you know, if we do it in

916
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: like five years, I guess it depends, like you know,

917
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: if we have depending on who the voters are, depending

918
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: on like who kind of comes in especially, so much

919
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: of that I think ends up being reflected by just

920
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: like the you know, if we have a larger group

921
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: of like gen Z voters, you know, who are like

922
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: maybe five them to be very inspirational to what country

923
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: music sounds like now, then maybe that could happen, But yeah,

924
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm curious kind of what that will look like. You know,

925
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: there's so many artists who have you know, obviously, like

926
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: having a big hit doesn't mean necessarily that you'll get

927
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: on the list or that the impact matters in the

928
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: long run, So it could be very fascinating to kind

929
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: of see what happens with that in five, ten, fifteen,

930
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: or twenty years.

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Speaker 2: In closing, we know we live in this divided country,

932
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: and yet we do know one of the things that

933
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: people can agree upon is music. Yeah, what's your take

934
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: on that?

935
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think, you know, people, music is

936
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: something that I think everyone has their own kind of

937
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: very intense emotional personal connections to, you know, an artist

938
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: or a song or an album. You know, everyone kind

939
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: of has something that they has carried them through a

940
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: specific moment in their life, or through their entire life,

941
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: or through a relationship or a bad day or a

942
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: good day. You know, Like, I think everyone kind of

943
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: has at least one thing, whether it's an artist, song,

944
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: or or genre or whatever, that means the world to them.

945
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: And I think that's really beautiful. And you know, I

946
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: think I'm someone who kind of my take on a

947
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: lot of that is like I'm excited when people tell

948
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: me what that is, you know, and I even if

949
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: it's not my thing, you know, I get excited to

950
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: see how people connect with, you know, any sort of

951
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: form of music in their life because it is so

952
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: personal and so fluid and so different for each person,

953
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: and it's really special kind of like how that can

954
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: shift and even just like you know, even for the

955
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: same song, you know, like I'm sure that someone's relationship

956
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: with you know, with like hey y'ah is different from

957
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: someone else's and you have specific memories tied to it,

958
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: and that's so crazy and cool because then you can

959
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: dance with them and kind of each kind of carry

960
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: your own kind of histories with that song. And I

961
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: think that's such a beautiful, beautiful thing. But yeah, I

962
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's nice. Yeah, I think it's just

963
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: such a great connector and even kind of sharing the

964
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: favorite artists, Like it's so fun to go to concerts

965
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: and kind of share that moment with you know, hundreds

966
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 1: or thousands of people who come from all different walks

967
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: of life from you, who maybe love you know, Beyonce

968
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: and are all in the stadium together and having a

969
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: great time and crying to different moments and dancing to moments,

970
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: and you know, kind of having that weight of all

971
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: your memories and your life experience kind of be soundtracked

972
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: by it and it's really special.

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Speaker 3: Well, this has been really special.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed. Britney Spanis Brittany and Rob Sheffield The

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Speaker 2: Rolling Stones. It's Rolling Stone five hundred Greatest Songs podcast available.

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Speaker 2: I'll give the plug. How's that? Available at Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

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Speaker 2: iHeart Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How was that?

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Speaker 1: It was amazing? Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: You were amazing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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982
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