WEBVTT - Part Two: Bobby Fischer: Chess Nazi 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:04.720 Fuck it, We'll do it live. We'll do it live. 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:10.879 I'm Bill O'Riley and this is the O'Reilly Factor podcast. 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:15.880 What Sophie, remember beverage in man if I spill it 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.880 during this, I'm gonna be really mad at you. Well, 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.520 everyone's mad at Bill O'Riley because he speaks the truth, Sophie, 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:27.680 I'm mad at you. Well, that's fair. This is Behind 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.400 the Bastards, a podcast about the worst people in all 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:34.120 of history, one of whom is in fact, Bill O'Riley. Um. 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.720 But we are we are not talking about Bill O'Riley today. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:44.760 We are instead talking about Bobby Fisher. Chess Nazi Um 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:49.440 also featured in the Hilltop Hood song Cosby Sweater, which 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:53.240 is not about Bill Cosby's crimes. It's actually a reference 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.840 to Biggie. So it's okay, it's fine, you can enjoy 0:00:55.920 --> 0:01:01.480 the song. Mia. How are you doing doing? Okay, We're 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.880 we're we're heading into the downhill stretch of this this 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.679 Friday afternoon, and also the downhill stretch of the life 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.560 of one Bobby Fisher. So it's good, that's good. I 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:14.640 am ready for it to be the downhill stretch of 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.280 Bobby Fisher's life. Unfortunately, it gets really bad before it 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:21.560 gets over. So it hasn't been good yet, so it's 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:30.320 gonna have we we it's only getting worse out. Okay, 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:35.520 well let's uh, let's right ruin my Friday afternoon please, 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.200 So all right, when when when we last left, when 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.640 we last left, the hero of American chess, Bobby Fisher 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.240 was the hero of the free world, the chess World champion. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:49.760 And also like people are just like like just just 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.560 dropping piles of money on him, and he refuses to 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.560 pick any of it up. He does just no promotions. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.680 Everyone wants to pay him and he's just like no, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.800 he does do one thing after this, and that one 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.760 that one offer that he does take is to go 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.600 play a tournament in the Philippines in nineteen seventy three, 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.760 and this is where Fisher gets into the business he's 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.079 going to be in for the rest of his life, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:18.640 which is the dictator business. Now, okay, it's important to 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.760 note that this is the year nineteen seventy three, right, 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.640 this is the year after future pod subject Ferdinand Marcos 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.320 Stages military comb became a dictator of the Philippines. Uh. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.440 He is about to torture while, but he has a 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.520 right torture people. He's going to torture tens of thousands 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.960 of people. He's going to inflict a rate of terror 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.200 or the beleaguer people of the Philippines. And Fisher just 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.280 spends this whole tournament there like hanging out with Marcos 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:46.880 and his wife. And that sounds like that sounds like 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:51.800 one of the worst dinners imaginable. Apparently, I'm sure he 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.240 liked it. I'm saying it sounds like one of like 0:02:54.560 --> 0:03:01.320 the dinner conversation. Um just just absolute like trashed here. 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.840 Oh god, yeah, no one is ever well, actually that's 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.000 not true. They did. They did actually accused Bobby Fisher 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.240 of having good taste before he proved them wrong. But 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.440 it's you know, he he like this is one of 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.720 the places that like always sort of sticks with Bobby Fisher, 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.440 like he he he likes the Philippines so much that 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.480 like he's gonna mooove here eventually. And Fisher's reaction to 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.560 you know, the markets statorships like this rules, I love it, 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.680 um And eventually look at Chterman ends he is back 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.720 to the US, and there's good news and bad news. 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.280 The good news is that he breaks with the Church 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:42.960 of God because their doomsday prophecies keep failing. He's literally 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:47.440 the only guy to ever Yeah, it really just is like, okay, world, 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.600 the prophecy number four, like none of them are working. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:52.840 So he gets So that's the good news. Yeah, he's 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.280 out of the cult. The bad news is that one 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:56.560 of the first things he does when he comes back 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.720 to California is buy a copy of the Protocols of 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:03.440 the elms Ion. Oh good, Yeah, no, that's that's that's 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.160 that's great. The great move body. This is going to 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.520 send him in some good directions, I think, because so 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.280 far my main problem with this guy is he's not 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.160 yet key Din enough on esoteric Nazi propagand Okay, so 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.880 the other book that he gets is called Nature's Eternal 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:24.159 Religion by Ben Klassen. Who Now that's that's that's actually esoteric. 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:29.720 Very good. Yeah, he's like a weirdo. He's a really 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.360 fanatical like racist nanti Semma. He's one of these guys 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:36.520 who was like, like Christianity is actually Jewish, so it's 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.000 it's it's not like white enough, so he needs to 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:43.440 be like not Christians. And he's even he's the founder 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.919 of Okay, So the thing that he founds is the 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.599 World Church of the Creator, which concerns in the creativity movement, 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.640 and they're they're most famous for producing the mass shooter 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.479 Ben Smith. And I need to make a note here. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.120 This is not the shooter named the mass shooter named 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:58.960 Ben Smith from Portland from last year. This is a 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:03.560 completely unrelated mass shooting in Ben Smith from Look, if 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.159 you're listening to this podcast and you're also a Ben Smith, 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.719 your asses, we got an eye on you, motherfucker, be careful. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.440 Don't do any bad things. Yeah, please God, we don't 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.960 need we don't need a third bend. It was played 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.039 out after the first time, It was played out before 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.960 the first time. One the third time is not the charm. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.600 Do not enough enough with the Ben Smith anyway, it 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.360 makes Smith just a normal name again. This this Ben 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.520 Smith goes on just like a murderous rampage, shooting black, 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.240 Jewish and Asian people before just like going out like 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.400 a tiny baby in a car chase. And at this one. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.560 But Bobby is getting like real weird with nanti Semitism. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.760 He sends this to Jewish friends, a copy of a 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:53.400 book called The Secret World Government by Oh God. Actually Okay, 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.760 I have confidence I can kind of do this name 0:05:56.120 --> 0:06:00.680 major General, Count Chirrup Spira Danovich, which, by the way, no, 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.800 that's not a name. I'm sorry, I'm sorry you you 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.599 need to walk me through how that fucking thing is spelled, 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.600 because I simply don't believe it's c H E R 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.599 E P dash s P I r I d O 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:18.159 v I c H What kind of fucking what sorry? 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:21.240 What kind of places this motherfucker from? This? This this, 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.800 this guy is a Russian white, Russian white will he 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.839 was originally a Russian admiral and then like a Russian 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:30.559 white army. Yeah, yeah, he's so he's in the fucking prosarist. Yeah. Look, 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.640 you're not gonna hear me stand up for the Bolsheviks 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:39.640 all that often, but oh my god, that those people suck. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.800 Like my look, anyone any any culture that's putting out 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.440 names like that, you're gonna have to line some people 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.480 up in a basement. I'm sorry. It's the only thing 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.680 to do with names like that. This is one of 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.240 those guys who like they absolutely should have shot he's not. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:59.720 He's like unacceptable name. Yeah. Well, also he's like he's 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.200 like a major guy who's he's he's basically like an 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:07.039 anti Semitism organizer. So that sounds right for the White army. Yeah. 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.680 So so he writes this book about how a Jewish 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.760 Mongol cabal is running the world. Oh sure, yeah, no, 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.400 they now that honestly. That that's I actually, I'm back 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.560 to having respect for this guy, because that is not 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.080 one I have heard of every kind of Jewish cabal 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.720 except for a Jewish Mongol cabal. That's very good, I think, 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.760 I actually I I okay, my, my, my. My understanding 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.280 of this is that this this is the thing about 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.240 like there are certain kinds of Yeah, there's a like 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.680 kinds of Russian nationalists who are like insane about the Mongolia, 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.000 like the invasions, and there's I mean a big, a 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.440 big part of especially this era of anti I mean 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.200 it it bleeds through to today. But one of the 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.360 big things Hitler would talk about is the idea that 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.600 like all forms of social justice and tolerance are Jewish 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.120 plots and the Mongols, for all of their flaws, we're 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.360 pretty tolerant of other religions rights like that. That was 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.400 like a factor in their governance, like they didn't really care. Yeah, 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.440 I mean you believed yeah they okay, like they did 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:09.640 of genocides, but not because it's their their motive genocides. 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.440 Are you a pastoralist or not? Which is a different, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.760 a very different thing from and stuff. I can see 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.040 someone being like, well, the Mongols were tolerant of other religions, 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.080 and uh so that's part of this, like Judeo Bolshevik 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:27.440 conspiracy to water down Orthodox Christendom because he thinks the 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.640 Mongols are like still like, it's a it's a it's 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.680 a Mongol Jewish. I don't know if he's he's very weird. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.280 It's like the Mongol equivalent of the guys who think 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.720 that the Queen of England still secretly rules the world. 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.720 I I don't know. I I didn't read this book 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.199 because I was like, I'm not I can't. I have 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:47.160 I read so much bullshit for this Episode's like absolutely not. 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.400 Find a find a Mongol and ask them are you 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:55.559 secretly running the world? I? Well, I have family intermo. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.520 Do your own research. It's not an actual Mongolia, but 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.800 it's pretty close. I could probably get across the border. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.160 I have always wanted to go. I want to go 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:06.280 specifically for Nadam, which is like this this big multi 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.600 day everybody goes to the city Ulan Batar and they 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.160 wrestle and do horseback archery and drink heavily, and it 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.680 sounds like exactly the kind of thing that I want 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:23.320 to do. Yeah, sounds like unfortunately back and things that 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:27.960 don't rip Fisher like he's just full on, like like 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:32.720 Entry's Nazi crank phase. Like he well, okay, so I 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.559 point out that book you were talking about. He sends 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.880 that to like a Jewish couple who's been his friends 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.040 since like childhood, and they just stopped talking to him 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.800 because they're like, Bobby, what the fuck. He also like 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.840 people keep trying to write books about him, and he 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.040 keeps trying to sue them because he's like, no one 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.600 can write about me unless they're me. And everyone's like, 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.040 that's that's not how the law works, That's not how 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:57.559 writing works, Bobby. Yeah, sorry, okay. And you know the 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.719 sort of peak of this is in any in seventy five, 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:04.679 He's supposed to defend his world championship, right, and Manila 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.880 offers five million dollars to host the events like a 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.240 pr thing for his old buddy, for Marcos, and this 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.520 is this is still this is twenty seven million dollars 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.920 in today's money, which is like and in the night 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:18.960 seventy five, Like that is a that is a truly 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:23.120 terrifying amount of money. And Bobby is like, no, I 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.840 will not play this tournament unless you agree to change 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.680 the format of like the championship to this weird format 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.319 where like, okay, so normally the way scoring works in 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.000 chess is if you get to if you have a draw, 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.120 both players get half a point and if you and 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:37.880 if you win, you get one point. And you're trying 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.160 to get to like a certain number of points. Bobby 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.200 is like, no, no, no draws, no longer give you 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.400 any points. You play an unlimited number of games, you 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.160 get the ten wins, and if they both are at 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.920 nine nine, it's like there's a draw. And Fisher keeps 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:55.640 being the champion and is like okay, like it sounds 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.720 a little stacked in his favor, like he was complaining 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:01.000 about the Russians being yeah, yeah, and and Fiene is 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.880 like okay, like whatever, fine, like well we'll we'll, we'll 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.920 let you do this, like thing is kind of a 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.280 normal There have been rules previously where like if the 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.319 score is a tie, the world champion keeps being the 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:17.360 world champion because they haven't been defeated. But but Feene 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:20.319 is like, okay, we cannot let you play an infinite 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.560 number of games, because if like you can act, you 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.640 could actually just get an infinite number of games, right, 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.800 because chess draws a lot, and Fine is like, come on, man, like, 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.959 well we'll cap it at thirty six games that that's enough, 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.439 and Fee and Fisher is like, okay, you do this 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:39.120 or I'm out, and the chess federations like, okay, he's bluffing, right, 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.800 he'll come around eventually. Fisher, instead of doing that, resigns 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:47.440 his title because he says FIDE won't let me defend it, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:51.800 so I'm resigning, which like that he's not what happens Like, 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.640 it's not the Fee didn't let you defend your title, 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.720 it's you refuse to play unless they stacked the rules 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.440 the way you wanted them to be, and then you 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:05.600 like resigned. Huh. It's very weird. And at this point, 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.920 so the guy he was supposed to play was Anatoly Karpov, 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.599 who's like of the famous castro of Carpov rivalry, and 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.960 car Pov is really pissed. But there's something you can 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:15.640 do about it, right, Like, you can't. He can't force 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.160 Bobby Fisher to play chess. So Karpov just becomes the 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:25.000 world champion because Fisher refuses to show up. Well, okay, Bobby, 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.960 good call. I don't think it seems like you're making 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.480 the right move for your career. Yeah, you know at 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.839 this point with Fisher is busy doing other stuff. And 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.520 by doing other stuff, I mean he's turning into like 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:40.080 a weird fitness bro guy. Awesome. Oh man, is he 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:44.320 becoming like a fucking like fucking chest influencer? Like is 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.920 he is he going He's doing He's doing the reverse 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.440 Andrew Tate. No. But okan, here's here's the thing that like, 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.120 actually he's just doing and Andrew Tate no, because he's 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.080 not actually becoming an influence. He this next phase of 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.000 his life is he spends twenty years basically in the 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:01.200 wilderness and not talking to anyone, and so well this 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:06.840 I support actually yeah, reappearance, which is actually good at chess, 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:13.160 unlike Andrew Tape. That's true. Although one of my thesis 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:14.800 of this episodes that Fisher is not actually as good 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:16.400 as everyone thinks. He is, just that nobody had ever 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.240 seen real chess in the night in like the nineteen seventies. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:24.000 Like I will do this rant later, but okay, so here, here, here, 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.560 here is Bobby Fisher. What he's fucking doing? Well, he's 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.840 not playing the World Championship, peop'll see playing. In quote, 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.600 every day he drink one or two pint glasses of 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.480 carrot juice, one right after another. Dozens of bottles of 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:41.360 vitamin pills, Indian herbal medicines, Mexican rattlesnake pills, lotions, and 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.920 exotic keys were piled on tables and ledges everywhere, all 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.040 to keep him on what he believed was a strict, 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.480 healthful diet and to treat some ailments he had from 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:54.199 time to time. Uh huh, So he's taking rattlesnake pill. 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.360 He also this is the other thing he likes, very 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:03.960 very normal man. And so you know he basically like 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.079 locked himself in his apartment and what he spends all 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.120 his time doing is like looking over chess games and 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.400 then yelling about the most people play so loudly that 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.079 like people will walk past his apartment and here's someone 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.640 yelling and be like, what the fund is going on here? 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.400 And The second thing that he's doing, and and this 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.880 is another kind of famous Fisher story, is that he's 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:28.160 walking around handing out Nazi pamphlets, which okay, yeah, but 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.000 but the thing about this is very and this this 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.000 is okay, this is like fully his crank face, right, 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.880 because if he wanted to be like an actual Nazi propagandist, 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:37.400 he could have gone to the media that are talking 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.480 about them. But instead, what he's doing is he's literally 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.280 like like standing on the street corner with pamphlets and 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.880 then like putting Nazi pamplets on like people's windshields. Well, 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:51.120 I mean, I guess I do prefer that. Oh, definitely, 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.480 he's not a dove not well, okay, well we'll get 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.840 to what he is good at. But while this is going, 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:02.080 he refuses to like take work or like make any 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.600 money from endorsements, which again everyone's trying to pay him. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.920 He just refused to sign contracts at this point because 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:11.920 he's so paranoid um And so this means that he 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.760 has no money, right, and he blows through all of 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.880 his original Chess World Championship money, and in order to 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.760 like survive, he starts living off his sister's social security 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:28.280 checks he like he's doing he's actually doing a reverse 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.640 Hitler here. Yeah, she has fully turned into like at 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.200 a California beach bump. He's like like moving from rented 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:38.360 room to rented room, like he he At one point 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.120 he moves in with his sister, but like she kicks 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.480 him out of his house for zanti Semitism. Wait, so 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.200 she's she's but the wait is he's stealing the money 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.160 from her she wanted. She just doesn't want him in 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.280 the house. I guess that makes sense because like she 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.760 this is like like but basically until this incident where 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.320 he gets like even till the end of his life, 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.080 really like his mom still keeps in touch with him, 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.920 like they're still talking, but they like have an agree 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.360 and never talked about politics because Fisher will start ranting 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:09.400 about anti Semitic will conspiracies. Yeah, I mean that's normally Yeah, okay, 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.120 very very Yeah. I don't know, I don't know what 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.920 you do with Bobby Fisher. I'm not gonna I'm not 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.040 gonna back Bobby Fisher's mom. Her, she's she's made a 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.640 lot of mistakes, though, I think we can agree on that. Yeah, 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.320 I mean I would argue a lot of it isn't 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.560 her fault, like it was like a lot of a 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.600 lot of what happens to Bobby Fisher is literally just like, 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.160 do you know how hard it is to raise two 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.560 children as a single mom who also has also was 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:39.600 working class in like nineteen nineteen, Like yeah, it's like 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.360 it's it's I don't know. She she she has a 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.280 hard time, but she has like an impossible task and 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.120 I don't know, maybe maybe don't let him go to 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.920 Cuba with the guy were in the swastika pin But 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.480 I don't know the other thing that's going on this period. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.960 I feel like this was Castro Cuba, right, No, that 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.600 that was that was prey was Yeah, this is Batista Cuba. Okay, 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.040 that makes it. I feel like Castro Cuba probably wouldn't 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.199 let a guy with a swastika pin in, right, that 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.600 has to be one thing to to be fair, to 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:15.000 be fair, he did really like Franco, So yeah, you 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.200 never know, you never know, Okay, so did the everything 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.520 a body? Fisher like one of his other he's like 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.800 he's just like from the time he wins the World Championship, 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.640 he becomes absolutely convinced the kids are trying to kill him, 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.840 and so he starts walking around with like like basically 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.720 like belts of potions they're supposed to save him, trying 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.879 to poison him. At one point later, she starts wearing 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.800 like the modern equivalent of like like a six hundred 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.720 buff coat. He's wearing this like leather jacket that's like 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.240 like five inches thick, because he's like, if I try 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:50.760 to stab me, will stop. He's okay, I was. I 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.159 was worried you were going to be like, yeah, he 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:53.879 started walking them with a bunch of guns and this 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.480 was going to go in a doctor. But potions and 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.600 leather armor is pretty cool. He is. He has kidded 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.760 out like he's heading the Balder's Gate. Yeah, it's yeah, 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.639 Like as a result of this, right, he like it 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.639 gets to the point where nobody even recognizes him as 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.920 Bobby Fisher anymore. Um, there's at one point there's a 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.320 very famous story about him where so okay, he's in California. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:19.320 He's like wandering around the streets and there's a there's 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:23.040 a robbery nearby, and the cops think that he matches 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.399 the description of the of the suspect, so they arrest 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.080 him and then they just keep him there because I 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:34.560 think he's sketchy, and he after this happens, he writes 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.760 this pamphlet called I was tortured in the Pasadena jail House, 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:39.639 And I'm going to read a little bit of it 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.119 because I think it gets at what's going on in 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.440 his mind. At this point, I was immediately handcuffed in 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.600 a brutal fashion. The police pushed my hands away way 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.880 up my back and caused me considerable discomfort and pain. Later, 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.280 I saw that the metal had torn into the flush 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.880 of both my wrists. I was put in a police car, 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:57.840 but it was unable to move far back enough for 0:18:57.880 --> 0:18:59.959 them to close the door because there was some kind 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.400 of hump in the middle of the back seat. After 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.919 several attempts to shut the door by brutally pushing my 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.560 right leg with his left leg, the officer finally seceeded 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:11.119 in closing the door by pushing my leg in with 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.239 the door itself. That that sentence has been going on 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:18.359 for like a century. Yeah. Later I saw them my 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.800 right knee head turned black and blue, and like, you know, 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.520 like he the stuff he's talking about. Like he starts talking. 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.320 He talks about how he was like stripped naked and 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:27.000 like forced to say, in an empty cell with no 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.720 food or water, and like a lot of people kind 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.080 of make fun of this, and I think it's absolutely plausible, 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.520 Like this is all stuff that like you know people 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:36.960 people who I know have been in jail of like 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.600 had cops do this to you? Because cops. But on 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.000 the other hand, he's like fully in crank but mode 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.440 now and he's fully convinced that like this entire thing 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.119 is a setup and it's been like orchestrated by like 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.880 well the Jews, because he's unbelievably he's metic at this point. 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.480 He's convinced that like this whole thing is like a 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.480 government plot. And you know, this is the thing about this, 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.920 right is if he'd actually gone to like the New 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.159 at times and been like, hey, I got tortured by 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.439 the cops, they would have covered it, right, Like he 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.600 every everyone still wants to talk to him, but instead 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:10.840 he's fully he's fully a crank now and he just 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.879 like publishes his pamphlet with like a thousand dollars of 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.000 his own money and like walks around handing out copies 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:23.520 like on the street to people. And meanwhile, like like 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.119 and people are people are like just this is like 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.600 the nine eighties, they're still just throwing money at him, right, 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.360 Like at one point, so people were willing to take 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.280 to spend ten thou dollars literally just take his picture 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.720 and he's like, no, no, you can't take a picture. 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.159 You know, and you know that this is this is 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:41.800 how he spends the eighties is just sort of like 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:46.080 another crank, like on the street, screaming about like Jewish conspiracies. 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.199 And I think like if he was in twenty three, right, 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.080 I think he actually would have done great like he 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.479 you know, he he basically would have been He basically 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:56.240 would have been ye. Right, you have a podcast, you 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.000 have like a giant entourage of like people who kind 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:01.240 of have their ship together when he were also Nazis. 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.440 But like, you know, part of part of thinking about 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.560 this period is, you know, the nineteen eighties have the 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.240 white power movement, but they don't have the kind of 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:11.240 like media infrastructure that like someone like Alex Jones or 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.280 for example, happen. No, they're they're just starting to build it. 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.600 You got guys, what years this again? Uh? Well, it's 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.360 it's it's it's like the whole nineteen eighties. I think, Yeah, 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.240 so you've got guys like Tom Metzger and David Duke, 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:26.399 and they're building media, but most of it is like 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:28.919 what you'd call zenes and stuff coming at you have 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:32.000 stuff like the Liberty Lobby, Willis Carto. We're gonna get 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.159 to this out there with a lot more kind of 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:38.240 a sophisticated stuff, but it is it is not. They 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.160