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Speaker 1: Hey listeners, fans and Almost Famous podcast huge fans of

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Speaker 1: the in depth episode, Welcome to this in depth episode

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Speaker 1: with Peter Webber. Peter, how you doing? I'm doing gig

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Speaker 1: moral code if you do, and I'm going to have

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00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: to reevaluate everything if you do. In that moment, did

427
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: you think, oh is a squirrel virgin? Or did you

428
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: just think that she was kind of giving you a

429
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: request because she was that into you, Like, did the

430
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: thought of her rigidity come into play at all? Um? Okay?

431
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 1: So for that, I remember, Uh, I had thought there

432
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 1: was a chance that that Maddie was a virgin. I

433
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: remember it was where was I was driving him from

434
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: a location I think it was it wasn't Chili in Santiago,

435
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: And I remember, yeah, I was talking about her with

436
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: my producers and I asked him like, do you guys

437
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: think this? And they couldn't give me anything, um, you know,

438
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: because obviously they can't. But I kept asking. That was

439
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: the first time that was on my mind. And then

440
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: they never talked about it again really until it kind

441
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: of came up that night. Um. But honestly, no, I didn't.

442
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,959
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Maybe there was a chance, but I

443
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: truly didn't know until until she told me in Australia

444
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: at that dinner. Um. So I knew that she was

445
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 1: obviously very very strong in her faith, and that would

446
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: have made sense, But I did not know for sure.

447
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: I know I asked you this with Access Hollywood, But honestly, Peter,

448
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: you're like a whole different Peter now than you were

449
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 1: like six or seven weeks ago. Would it have made

450
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: a difference. Would it have made a difference if Maddie

451
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: had at that moment said I want you to not

452
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: sleep with anyone because I am a virgin, And yeah,

453
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: would that have changed your mind about sleeping with anyone else?

454
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: Can you say that even for sure? Yeah, it would have.

455
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: I can say that for sure. I think definitely had

456
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more gravity with everything. Um, yeah, it

457
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: would have had more gravity. So there's a chance that

458
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: you may not have slept with the other woman in

459
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: that case. Yeah, but but again that there would yeah

460
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: there there for sure would have been a stronger chance there.

461
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: But again it kind of all goes back to, like

462
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: my biggest struggle was, like I explained, with the kissing stuff,

463
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: Like I when I was with each individual woman, I

464
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: tried my best to just be so intentional with them

465
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: and lost with them, and um, you know I would

466
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: have definitely struggled with that. Like if I'm holding back.

467
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: You know, in any aspect of the relationship, am I

468
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 1: doing it a disservice? But you had to answer your

469
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: question that it would have made it a little different,

470
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: and like, let's not forget you know, you know, however

471
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: it played out, agree or disagree with the decisions of

472
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: what you did. Um you are dating multiple people at

473
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: one time, like that is not normal. That is not

474
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: easy to do. There's no right way to do something

475
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: that is is very unnatural to you and not something

476
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: I don't think. I guess I don't know you before

477
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: the show, but it's not h something you had practiced

478
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: necessarily before this experience. It's extremely natural. So you're trying.

479
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: You're going into this week knowing that one of these

480
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: people that you're you're falling for is saying this to you.

481
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: Also knowing that you're still trying to figure out if

482
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: she is the one, and knowing that some of the

483
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: other people that you're with don't have those feelings, that

484
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: don't have those um uh, don't feel as strongly about

485
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: physical intimacy and maybe winning or where it should be

486
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: had or and what capacity and so as as yes,

487
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: we can be critical, right and and Madison was a

488
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: fan favorite. But you know, actually I just want to

489
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: add in that like at some point it does become

490
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: more confusing than what the general public can can necessarily understand,

491
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: and and exactly and one more thing I'll add even

492
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: I think on even more important than having known that

493
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: night that she brought that up to me if she

494
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: was a virgin, and I think the biggest thing for

495
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: me would have been just knowing exactly where she was

496
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: with me, because I should never express to me how

497
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: she truly felt, um compared to the other two women,

498
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: And so that was I think the biggest thing for

499
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: me that just was was really confusing and how I

500
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: go about this. Okay, So if she had told you

501
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: she was a virgin, and if she would have said

502
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: at that moment, I love you, everything could have been different. Yeah,

503
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: and not even necessarily I love you, just like knowing

504
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: where she was even just falling like where she truly

505
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: felt like she was with me got it. Um. So

506
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: then from there on you made it seem like you

507
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: were the storyline that we saw on TV, made it

508
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: seem as if you were just so torn you had

509
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: no idea where you're going to end up. But then

510
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: it was interesting because the way we saw a play

511
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: out on TV. As soon as Maddie had decided to leave,

512
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: it seemed like she was your choice the entire time,

513
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: and you weren't torn at all. Was what was going

514
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: through your head and heart different than what we saw

515
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: on TV? Um? Wait, so you're saying that when when

516
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: Maddie left and then towards the end, like to the proposal,

517
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: you're saying that it seemed like what like I it

518
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: seems like you had chosen Maddie in your head a

519
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: long time ago. Um, listen, I you're you're so right

520
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: when I when you say like it looked like I

521
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: was instanding confused, I say that all the time. That

522
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: was the most confusing week of my life. It was

523
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: so stressful. I had no idea it really had to

524
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: go about that. Um, I really was, you know, I

525
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: truly truly felt like I was in love with with

526
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: two women. And at that point, UM, I know you

527
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: can kind of attest that ben and like if that's possible,

528
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: and and I really do feel like it is, and

529
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: and people that say it's not. Well, then I come

530
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: back to you guys with if do you think you

531
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: can fall in love with more than one? Person just

532
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: in your the matter of your lifetime at different times,

533
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: and if you can, why can't it happen at the

534
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: same time. I get that's weird, but in this kind

535
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: of situation is what allows for that to be possible. Um,

536
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: that's just my opinion. Yeah, it was tough, and UM

537
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: obviously I had a lot of love for Maddie, but

538
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: I also had a lot of love for Hannah and

539
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: and I I think I think what you guys were

540
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: seeing more than anything was just I was heartbroken, and

541
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 1: but I truly feel like I also would have been

542
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: heartbroken if Hannah and would have just done the same

543
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: thing and just left. And having to deal with those

544
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: feelings of heartbreak for me almost like it just kind

545
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: of consumed me a little bit. And since I didn't

546
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: have any time to process it like a normal relationship

547
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: when it ends, and two days three days later, I

548
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: had to try to go in to get myself in

549
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: the right head space to possibly propose to someone. UM.

550
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: I think if there would have happened with either woman,

551
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: I would have I would have really struggled with it,

552
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: and it probably would have seemed like I was missing

553
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: the other one a lot. That was did you ever

554
00:27:53,359 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: think to ask for extra time to process. Um No,

555
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: I remember I remember kind of like my last my

556
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: last opportunity I might might have had that we were

557
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: getting ready to film the the Neil Lane. Um you

558
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: know where he came the first time I met Neil

559
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: and he was gonna show me the rings, and um,

560
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: I just remember being just I was in rough, rough

561
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: headspace and I took some time to myself. They came

562
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: into my like my room, and so I was in

563
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: like bedroom area. They were filming it in the living

564
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: room area, and I like went in. I just said

565
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: I needed to like just go change or something. And

566
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: I didn't. I just closed the door and just sat

567
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: on my bed, and I was just like stress and

568
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: stress and stress, And because I knew how I felt

569
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: about Hannah, and but I knew how I was struggling

570
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: as well. I was like, what do I do here?

571
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: What do I do? What do I do? And I guess,

572
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, I felt a little bit of pressure with

573
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: the time crunch. Um maybe I could ask for more time.

574
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: I didn't, And then, um, I just decided that I

575
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: was gonna go I was gonna go forward with it.

576
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: The thing here is, Peter is like again, and I'm

577
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: just gonna keep filling this gap here, um because I

578
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: always think it's important for people to realize that, uh,

579
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: like I just think it's healthy maybe for people to

580
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: realize this is real life. And as you sit there

581
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: and you try to confront some of these decisions that

582
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: were drastically and dramatically going to change your life for

583
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: the better, uh hopefully uh and at some level, no

584
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: matter what for the better, there there isn't always the

585
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: clear cut, um path, especially when you're in it and

586
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: you're sitting there. I just want to sit on this

587
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: for a second and allow you to explain yourself. Um,

588
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: if you're sitting if you go back to that moment

589
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: and maybe just take it from like all of these

590
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: moments where you're on the show and all the confusion

591
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: and chaos it's being caused and you're getting I mean,

592
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: there's so many moments during this season Peter that I

593
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: was just like, he's confused, like and not in a

594
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: hey you're like you just I mean, yeah, you just

595
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: got confused because of the chaos around you. I Mean

596
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: that was how the like, what is it like to

597
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: be in chaos in the midst of something brand new?

598
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Experience that you've never been a part of before, also

599
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: knowing where you're hoping this ends like for you personally, Like, yeah,

600
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: what's it like? It's terrifying, it really is. I, Um, yeah,

601
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: I was extremely confused at that point. And then there's

602
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: just the added you know, you have so much kind

603
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: of just pressure. Whether you want to admit it or not,

604
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: there is pressure. You're in an awkward environment and I

605
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: have you know, I've fully invested, you know, in multiple

606
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: women up to this point, and I'm just trying my

607
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: absolute best to navigate my feelings and just get like

608
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: a clear head and clear heart of exactly what I

609
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: want to do. And if I'm just being so honest,

610
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever if I ever got

611
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: to that point where I had a clear head and

612
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: clear heart in a decision. And that sucks, but that's

613
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: the truth. And um I tried my damn best to

614
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: like get there, and and it just it was it

615
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: was something I struggled with because we're so confus use

616
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: and because you're so emotional. Did you ever think I'm

617
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: gonna try to pull a Wan Pablo here and ask

618
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: this girl to just to date me until I get

619
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: more clarity. I did think about that, and I don't know.

620
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: I just again I knew that I that I did

621
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: love Hannah Ann And again it just goes back to me.

622
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: I kept just thinking, Listen, I know I'm feeling a

623
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: heartbreak right now, and this part sucks. But I've gone

624
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: through every heartbreak I've ever felt, and eventually I'll get

625
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: through this. You know. I don't want to possibly, um

626
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: take away from the two of us a really special

627
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: moment that could turn into something amazing, because I'm hurting

628
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: right now, and I just I guess in my head,

629
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: maybe it's the romantic in me, Like I I felt

630
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: like maybe Hannah and maybe she would have appreciated that more. Um,

631
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 1: but I felt like it would have just been like

632
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: discouraging to her if if I just asked her that.

633
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: Um yeah, you know, there's a lot of things I

634
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: couldn't have done differently, but um, it did. It did

635
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: cross my mind a couple of times. And um, yeah,

636
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: when you were laying on that bed and just you know,

637
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: having that breakdown of sorts, how much did your family's

638
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: opinion on Hannah and sway you to make the decision

639
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: to propose. Yeah, I knew that Uh. You know, my

640
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: family loved Hannah and UM and I totally understood why.

641
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: Um it really it wasn't my It wasn't like that

642
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't thinking about my family though at that

643
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: point I really wasn't. Um. I The only time I

644
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: kind of like was maybe a little stressed about my

645
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: family's opinion with that was we were flying when we

646
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: were flying out to uluru um for that date with Madison,

647
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: and I remember talking to one of the producers and

648
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's a tough situation of being

649
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: like I don't know what to do right now. UM.

650
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: But after that moment, like, no, when I was on

651
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: that bed, I was I wasn't thinking about my family's

652
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: opinion or anything. That was just thinking about what I needed. Peter.

653
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: As we sit here in this moment, Um, I wanna

654
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: I want to let you know there's there's a lot

655
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: more in your story that we need to get to, um,

656
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: to close, uh, to close some of these gaps in

657
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: the experience that you had. So UM, I know this

658
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: experience for anybody's not easy. I know it's confusing. I

659
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of tough decisions that have to

660
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: be made um, you are now looking back at it

661
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: and able to process it in a different way. We're

662
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: going to get to how you got to the place

663
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: that you're sitting out today, and and I really want

664
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: to spend some time with you just getting to know

665
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: you today and what you've learned before we do. I

666
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: know Ashley kind of wants to fill in some of

667
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: the gaps as I mentioned, Um in between, Uh, let's

668
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: take a break and when we come back, when we

669
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: come back with Peter Weber on this in depth episode

670
00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: of the Almost Famous podcast. Alright, Peter, so now let's

671
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: go back to when you felt like things were falling

672
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: apart with Hannah Ann. Was it because you felt like

673
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: you guys were incompatible or was it because you kept

674
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: thinking about someone else? It was it was a little

675
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: bit of both. It was you know, I remember, I

676
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: think we had like three happy couples Hannah and and

677
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: I after after this, you know, the show and obviously

678
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: like that's the first time where you really you get

679
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: out of the show environment and you really just you

680
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: get to see your compatibility and you get to see

681
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: maybe how much you guys challenge each other in a relationship.

682
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: And um, and and where that actually lies and uh,

683
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: you know you don't have any of the distractions, Uh

684
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: the show can possibly hide or just you know, you know,

685
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: damp in a little bit. UM And I think that, Yeah,

686
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: I just in my mind, UM, I think like the

687
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: biggest thing, I just I feel like in regards to compatibility,

688
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that we challenge each other enough. And

689
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: that was something that UM is important to me, you know,

690
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: in a relationship and UM and yeah, and there was

691
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: definitely definitely stuff with you know, I haven't been afraid

692
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: to say, like with my feelings. Yeah, still that we're

693
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: unresolved with Madison. Um, you know that I had to

694
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: deal with. And it's tough not being able to you know,

695
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: lean on you know, your you know, your your partner

696
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: when you really want to UM and you know, talk

697
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: things through and kind of event because that's just like

698
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: that's inappropriate. That's weird and awkward and not something that

699
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: you know, they want to hear. And I totally get that.

700
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: So it was a tough time for me, but UM,

701
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: it was just it was definitely a little bit of

702
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: both and uh, yeah, that's what it was. When Chris

703
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: Harrison went to Alabama to talk to Maddie. Were you

704
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: informed that he was going to do this? Was this

705
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: something you kind of wanted him to do? No, No,

706
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: I had I had no idea. Um Man. The only

707
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: time I ever heard about that was producers today, Like

708
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: I guess there's pictures that were like taking of of

709
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: of Madison um in her hometown, But that was I

710
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: didn't know what exactly was going on. How do you

711
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: feel about that move? Um? I mean, you know, I

712
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: think I think Chris obviously he saw, you know, that

713
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: I was struggling. He knew why I was struggling, and

714
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, I think he was just trying to, you know,

715
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: try to help out in any way possible. Who knew

716
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: how that was going to turn out? But um, I wasn't.

717
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know, mad about the about him doing that.

718
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: So I didn't work out with Maddie. So with you know,

719
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: that happens, you know, she surprises me and and then

720
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: we you know, we started contacting or you know, communicating

721
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: with each other, and we didn't see each other, you know,

722
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: face to face until on stage again. That was the

723
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: next time. Which why was that? I think a lot

724
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: of people were wondering, why didn't you guys see each

725
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: other again. Yeah, I I think you asked both of us,

726
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of it's it's a tough question

727
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: to answer, Like, I don't know, I think we should

728
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: have because I know we did talk. We wanted, like

729
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: going on stage, just to be really authentic and real

730
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: and just like not. Um, that's why we did that.

731
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: That was legit the reason, Like I we had thought

732
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: about doing it, and I know, I remember a couple

733
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: of days, you know, before, when she had actually flown

734
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: out to l A again before a FAR. I remember like, no,

735
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: I need I think I think I need to we

736
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: need to see each other. And at that point it

737
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: was too late, and um, that wasn't possible. We were

738
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: able to face time though and communicate and it was

739
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, we taught. We had some really good conversations.

740
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: We talked everything through if this is actually something that

741
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: was possible, if we could do it, Um, why it

742
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: didn't work at a far obviously everything that happened there

743
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: and then moving on from there, we had about two

744
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: days that we spent with each other and um, you know,

745
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: she came over that night, you know, for a little bit,

746
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: and we just talked. We didn't really talk too much

747
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: about our relationship. We just wanted to be there for

748
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: each other and to support each other and I enjoy

749
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: each other's company. But then UM, the next day, her

750
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: mom had flown out and spent the day with her,

751
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: and then so I don't really see her that day.

752
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: But the second day is when I went over to

753
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: her her hotel and we spent pretty much the whole

754
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: day together just talked and UM literally talked everything through

755
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: UM and we we totally each other listen, put all

756
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: of our feelings and motions aside. This is all pure,

757
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: just logical, just no feelings in this is this something

758
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: that can work. And we both came to just the

759
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: agreement that that it really wasn't UM. I know a

760
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: lot of people just get caught up in the whole

761
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: like the sex thing, and that's you know, saving uself

762
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: for marriage. That was honestly something that was really small

763
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: like that wasn't something that I don't think I could

764
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: have done. There was stuff on top of that that

765
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: kind of came with her her beliefs, and I totally

766
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: respect her for you know, I wasn't going to be

767
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: able to ever UM something I love to do in

768
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: my life is travel and go explore and especially do

769
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: with my significant other. And I wasn't going to be

770
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: able to do that with her because she, you know,

771
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: is also saving herself from for marriage just spending the

772
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: night with with you know, with a guy. And you know,

773
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: even just back at home, we had our you know,

774
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: I had my apartment, she had hers. You know, she

775
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: was never able to spend the night with me. And

776
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: that's something that I really use to just even if

777
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: there's no physical anything going on, just that closeness and

778
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: waking up with your person the next morning is stuff

779
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: that's important for me in a relationship. And there so

780
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that people didn't know that

781
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: we just weren't compatible with the Peter. I mean, I

782
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: think that's where, um, one of the things that I

783
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: want to get your opinion on is, you know, we

784
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: watched the season before with Luke Parker, and he had

785
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: he had some similar like kind of put my foot

786
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: in the ground feelings on faith and their convictions and

787
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: their morals and the kind of the choices they were making.

788
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: And then we get to Maddie and people were comparing

789
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: the two. But it felt like your response to Maddie

790
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: bringing up these concerns was different than Hannah Bees. It

791
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: felt like you were we're not angry as much, or

792
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, you want brought off what what do you

793
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: think the biggest difference was between the way that Maddie

794
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: and Luke approached it. If there was one, and you know,

795
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: everybody talked about the double standard here. Do you believe

796
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: there was one or do you believe it's it's different. No,

797
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: I think it's different, and I think it's Yeah, they

798
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: were totally approached differently. I think everyone thinks that, you know,

799
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: Madison gave me an ultimatum into this day, I don't

800
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: feel like she ever gave me an ultimatum. She literally

801
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: just expressed to me what was on her heart, something

802
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: I asked every woman to do the first night in

803
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: the mansion, and uh, you know, she didn't say you

804
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: have to do that. She said this was going to

805
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: be difficult for me, and I want you to know that. Um.

806
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: I thought she approached it in the best way possible.

807
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: The only critique I could have had for her was

808
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: possibly doing it sooner in the process and maybe being

809
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more open with you know, the extent

810
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: of the virginity and the extent of you know where

811
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: how she was filing with me. But that is, in

812
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: my opinion, completely different than anything with Luke and Hannah.

813
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: Um and uh, I don't yeah, I don't compare to

814
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: you at all. I think that's the thing that you

815
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: know as viewers, UM, as viewers, I think we watch

816
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: it like it was. It felt like an ultimatum. But

817
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: what you're saying is no exactly who you want to do.

818
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: In any relationships you date, you get to know somebody,

819
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: you ask them to be as open about what things

820
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: are important to them as possible at some point. And

821
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: and I think this is a good caveat my opinion,

822
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: which matters a little bit because we host this podcast,

823
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: is um that ultimately you're you're two people who pursued

824
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: a relationship, who are attracted to each other and intrigued

825
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,959
Speaker 1: by each other. And one of the most important things

826
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: in her life was something that you maybe didn't feel

827
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: similarly on and it just didn't work. But like it's

828
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: hard to say goodbye to somebody great in your life,

829
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: even if you disagree on some massive things, But when

830
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: you care and love somebody, some of those little disagreements

831
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: get pushed away because you just enjoy them as a person,

832
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: but when it comes down to spending your life with them,

833
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: they become massively important. Like they are deal breakers, and

834
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: deal breakers are not bad. Deal breaks are great, especially

835
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: when it breaks a deal that was not going to

836
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: be healthy for one or two of the parties involved. Right,

837
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: So for you as you sit there where're at now

838
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: and I just explained your breakup, which was like incredibly

839
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: like out of me, I'm sorry about that, but um,

840
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: but as you sit there now and you look Maddie

841
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: in the eyes as she's telling you the things you

842
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: and you look Maddie in the eyes the day after

843
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: far when you're trying to process this and you're just going,

844
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to say goodbye to you, Like, what

845
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: was that like then? Because again I say it, I

846
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: said all this to get to the point in the

847
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: understanding that like you were saying goodbye to still somebody

848
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: you cared about even though it wasn't gonna work, right, No,

849
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was super tough. I remember

850
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: that that exact day, and we probably spent six hours

851
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: just laying on her bed just talking everything through. And

852
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: it was like I keep saying it was it was

853
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: like that point in a relationship where if people have

854
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: been through it, they can relate. You know, you go

855
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: and there's ups and downs, and there's a lot of struggles, right,

856
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: and you may break up once or twice, but there's

857
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: that point where you actually know it's for sure ending

858
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: and like there's no come back from this. And I

859
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: think the two of us we we we had that

860
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: kind of like sense and that we knew that was

861
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: kind of how the day was going to end with

862
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: with the two of us, and it was super sad.

863
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: We literally we cried and we laughed and we listen

864
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: to music, We made videos and then cried some more

865
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: and then talked everything through and just there is no

866
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: like love loss there at all. But I think, you know,

867
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: for the first time and to be completely honest, really

868
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: just proving like my mom, where her delivery could have

869
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: been a lot different, she was just right in the

870
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: end and like we just weren't compatible for each other. UM.

871
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: And the show, the nature of the show allowed for

872
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: us not to really see those you know, those issues

873
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: so much, but kind of getting into real life UM

874
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: and then really reflecting you see, like listen, it sucks

875
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: like you have. You can feel so strongly for someone

876
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: and but you need those you need to be compatible

877
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: on some certain huge life life issues. If you're not,

878
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: it's really just not going to work out in the end.

879
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: And that's really all that it was. And um, I

880
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: think we both just came to that realization together at

881
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: the same time, and that's when it, you know, we

882
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: made the decision to not pursue anything. So, Peter, I

883
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: completely agree that you and Maddie are incompatible. That's the

884
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: reason that it ended. But I have to ask, because

885
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: the audience is wondering. You brought Maddie home that day

886
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: after after the final rows. She she was with possibly

887
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: your mom after your mom just who was so so

888
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: rough on her. I just want to know how uncomfortable

889
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: that was for her. No, so I didn't We didn't

890
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: go back back to my house. So we we were

891
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: for the show. We were put up in hotels a

892
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: couple of days prior, in a couple of days after

893
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: afar Um, so we just like that night, I just

894
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: had her. She came over to my hotel for a

895
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: little bit, and then two days later I went over

896
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: to her hotel. Um and then that's you know, that's

897
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: the last time I saw her. But yeah, I mean,

898
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: and I'll just add like, yeah, that was obviously a

899
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: far was tough for everyone involved, but um, you know,

900
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: it could have gone differently obviously both sides. And I again,

901
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: I will defend my mom, not necessarily like the delivery

902
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: and she'll be the first admitted, but her just being

903
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: able to on live TV, with the pressure that that

904
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: comes with, um, even against other opinions, be able to

905
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: truly speak her mind of her opinion for the love

906
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: of her son is in my opinion, a really beautiful thing.

907
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: And you know, I obviously I felt uncomfortable being in

908
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: the middle of that because I care about Maddie like

909
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: no other and I obviously love my family like no other. Um,

910
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: but you know, obviously you wish things could happen a

911
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: little bit differently, but it is what it is. And um, yeah,

912
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us were at home watching

913
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: and thinking something must have happened, more like we're not

914
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: getting the full story here. Was there anything? No, I

915
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: mean as far as like your mom's dislike towards Maddie,

916
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: And again, it wasn't even like my mom's like dislike

917
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: towards Maddie. She doesn't dislike Maddie at all, it's just

918
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: that she knows and she was very passionate in the

919
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: moment that we just weren't compatible and it wasn't gonna work.

920
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: And um, listen, theer's things, you know, I know, like

921
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: with the with the you know, they're going back to

922
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: like waiting for a couple of hours out in Australia.

923
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: Um listen, it was because my actions that caused that.

924
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, we we made my parents wait that long,

925
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: and um, there's just things that obviously led to frustration.

926
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you know, you know,

927
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: she was right. My mom was right. And again the

928
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: delivery could have been different, no doubt, but um, yeah

929
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: she was right. So while this is happening and your

930
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: mom is having tension with Maddie, there's another lady sitting

931
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: there that wasn't there for women tell all, which raised

932
00:46:53,280 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: some red flags. And her name was Kelly. Again, is

933
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: there anything you want to share about your feelings? Starts

934
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: Kelly at the moment? Yeah, I mean yeah, I'm open

935
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: book with that. Um, you know, Kelly is someone that

936
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: I just we've always just gone along really well, and

937
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: starting from before we met, you know before the show. Um,

938
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: Unfortunately the show for her wasn't like the best kind

939
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: of opportunity to possibly find uh, you know, fine love.

940
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: She she will be the first one to admit it.

941
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: She was very uncomfortable throughout at all, and just it

942
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: wasn't her cup of tea. Um. But Kelly and I

943
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: outside of that just connected and it's been just really

944
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: kind of weird how life has just kind of happened

945
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: with us. And met her before the show, ran into

946
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: her completely random in Miami after the show, um, very

947
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: very briefly just said high but pretty much. And then

948
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: after that ran into her a third time out in

949
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: l A through mutual friends. And so just been a

950
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: really good relationship someone that um, I've just really gone

951
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: along went really well. And uh and I think the

952
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: world of Kelly, no doubt about that. So uh well, Peter,

953
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's take a break. When we come back,

954
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna continue talking to Peter Weber about his time

955
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 1: on the show, his life now, and what his romantic

956
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: interests look like today. Before the break, we talked to

957
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: Peter about Kelly Plan again, who was a part of

958
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: his season. We also talked about Maddie, who was a

959
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: part of his season. There's one person that we haven't

960
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: spoken about, which, ultimately, Peter, uh, you were engaged to

961
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: at the very end, and that's Hannah ann Uh. Hannah

962
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: hand had had caught the attention of the fans and

963
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: yourself during the season. She obviously her story ended, I

964
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: would say, and I don't know again, I'm explaining all

965
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: this as a fan, but like abruptly in a sense,

966
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: like we you were engaged to her, all of a sudden,

967
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: we see her on the live show, then she's gone,

968
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: and the story becomes about Madison and yourself and now

969
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: obviously about Kelly and you, Peter. If we could, though,

970
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: let's sit on Handah and for a second. Really, three

971
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: things I want to ask you. One is is why Hannah?

972
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: And at the end, the second thing they just kind

973
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: of clear up is was Hannah and like your second

974
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: choice and because Maddie left, she was just the best

975
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: option standing in front of you and if not, why?

976
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: And then third is is how did your breakup kind

977
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: of feel to you? Like what what was that whole process? Like? Yeah,

978
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: I so for Hannah, and I I am a huge

979
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: Hannah and fan, and I will always do that way,

980
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: no matter you know, how she feels about me. Um,

981
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: She's someone that just had one of the most like

982
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: just beautiful souls and just hearts that I truly have

983
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: ever seen. And that sounds so cliche, but it's just

984
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: it was so true and someone that I think for

985
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: the first time, kind of showed me the kind of

986
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: love that I really always was looking for from someone,

987
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: some love that I think was on par with a

988
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: love I feel like I've always shown women in the

989
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: past that I've dated. It might may have not been reciprocated.

990
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: I remember always saying that was one of the biggest

991
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: things I needed, was someone having that heart willing to

992
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: give that amount of love to me. And she was

993
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: and I saw it, you know it almost with Hannah,

994
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: and she she's like very like it almost seems like

995
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: fake to away, but she because she just seems almost

996
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: like so close to perfect, but she is like that's

997
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: just who she is. That's Hannah Ann and she's nothing

998
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: about her is fake. Um. She you know, I always

999
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: would say that she just has like this beautiful, like

1000
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: innocence that combines effortlessly with like all this confidence at

1001
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: the same time, and it's like it's a very unique

1002
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: quality that I just have never really seen in someone.

1003
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: And you know, listen, I I fell in love with

1004
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: Hannah and I did, and um, you know, it breaks

1005
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: my heart of how everything happened. Um, she wasn't Listen.

1006
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: I know people you can try to some as well. Well,

1007
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: she was just the second option. She wasn't. Like I

1008
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: kind of said earlier in the podcast, I think really

1009
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: if it would have been the other way around, I

1010
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: would have struggled just as much with Hannah and leaving

1011
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: abruptly like that, and just like having that heartbreak and

1012
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: having to deal with it. Um, you know, did I

1013
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: maybe possibly try to convince myself a little prematurely too

1014
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: that I was ready to get engaged. Yeah, sure I can.

1015
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: I can say that. Um, but it really wasn't just

1016
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: nothing about that was Hannah and as being uh well

1017
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: she's my second. No, it wasn't like I was all

1018
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: about Hannah, and I truly was. I saw exactly what

1019
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: my family saw and um, you know, I mean every

1020
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: single word of that. Um with the breakup. I I

1021
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: struggled with that like no other And that was just

1022
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: like I was just so depressing for me knowing that

1023
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: you know that was coming, and UM, it was really

1024
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: tough for me because I wasn't able to just because

1025
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: the nature of the show and it's tough sometimes trying

1026
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: to balance it. But I wasn't able to really give

1027
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: her like the heads up that I necessarily wanted to

1028
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: um because obviously that has to get filmed, and like

1029
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: that part sucks, UM, But like I wish I could have,

1030
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: And you know, I knew she probably thought it was coming,

1031
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: she could probably feel it. But having to do that

1032
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: and just knowing that I was, you know, probably breaking

1033
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: her heart and just completely just out of nowhere, just

1034
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: surprising her with that, Like it just tore me apart.

1035
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: It tore me apart, Like why did you get to

1036
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: how did you get there? That's one thing we didn't

1037
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: see is like what we assumed as viewers it was

1038
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: because you had feelings for Madison. Well that's one of

1039
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: the things here. And I think there's been a little

1040
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: bit of an injustice just because of not editing, not production.

1041
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to use as excuses just because your

1042
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: story is so complex that it's impossible to tell it

1043
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: and to show it and like in the amount of

1044
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: time that they had, but Like what's confusing for me

1045
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: is as a friend, as a fan of whatever, is

1046
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 1: like watching this going wait he broke up with Hannah

1047
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: and because he's into Madison, but yeah, him and Madison

1048
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: wereked together two days after the finale. That's weird to me.

1049
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: It's like, what what was going on? Like what? Why

1050
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: did you really why? Why did that break up really happen? Yeah,

1051
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: because I have to say Maddie's name was never brought

1052
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: up to during that conversation, right well again that she

1053
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: was just a part of it. She wasn't all of it.

1054
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't even say most of it, Like I

1055
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: just remember, I remember there's like a lot of moments

1056
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: that just kind of like broke my heart while we

1057
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: were just together a happy couple and like the happy

1058
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: couple of weekends, and she was just like Hannah Anne

1059
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: was just so just so amazing in that relationship and

1060
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: was giving me everything and I could feel it one

1061
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: from her, and I mean, obviously a little bit was

1062
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: at Naddie, but like I just I wasn't able to,

1063
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: like I saw myself not being able to match that

1064
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: one with her and give her exactly what she was

1065
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: giving me. And that's what I hated, and I was

1066
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: not okay with that, and like I kept thinking, well,

1067
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: you know, the next time I see her, it's gonna

1068
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to get there with her, and

1069
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: the next time and the next time, and it just

1070
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: it didn't. And it just came down to I. I

1071
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: mean I told her this, like I didn't feel like

1072
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: it was fair to keep her in a relationship, and

1073
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: she could feel it. She could feel me not being

1074
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: able to give that. We would have conversations, you know,

1075
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: on the phone, and we weren't together about it of

1076
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: why that was. And I just hated putting her through that,

1077
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: and she was she was struggling with it a lot,

1078
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: you know. She would tell me how stressed she was,

1079
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: and it just and she couldn't, you know, because she

1080
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: didn't tell literally, we didn't tell any of our friends

1081
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: that it was the two of us, like literally only

1082
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: our family, our immediate families, and now we had a

1083
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: group text with all of them, but nobody else outside

1084
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: of that new and um, she couldn't invent and go

1085
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: just talk to her friends about it, and that just

1086
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: like that was killing me. All these things kind of combined.

1087
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: I just like I can't do this to this girl,

1088
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: like I I know that, like I fell in love

1089
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: with her, but I'm not I can't match what she's

1090
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: giving me. And I just didn't feel good about that.

1091
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: And you know that is really the biggest reason of

1092
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: why I I broke it all. I ended it. You know,

1093
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: it's like that, it's the it's almost cliche, but it's

1094
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: like the traditional hey it's not you, it's me kind

1095
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: of thing, and like it's the true. It's like there's

1096
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: no other way to explain it. It's just like it's me.

1097
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't I can't get there. Yeah, that's

1098
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: really like, that's that's what it was. So now we

1099
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: lead into obviously we watched it, we experienced it. Um

1100
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: you and Hannah Ann had ended things were going after

1101
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: the final rows. We've discussed that in pretty good detail.

1102
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: I think to this point we get what happened there,

1103
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: like and I think, but you knownd if I just

1104
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: like on that real quick like heart, because I've struggled

1105
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: like why why is that? Why? What? Why was I

1106
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: able to go and get engaged and then and not

1107
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: and then have these feelings and like nothing against the show.

1108
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: I love the show and I've always been the biggest

1109
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, just advocate for this show and that it works.

1110
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: But to be just fair, me just processing all this

1111
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: and looking back at the end of the day, I

1112
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: spent maybe forty hours you know with her, I did,

1113
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: like consecutive hours. And for me, you know, obviously it's

1114
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: an engagement and it's it's that's a real thing, and

1115
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: that was but in a way it almost to me,

1116
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, it was like it's almost like

1117
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: a promise ring to continue it. You've known her for

1118
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: forty hours and I don't know everything about her, and um,

1119
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm not trying to say that

1120
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: as an excuse, but like I'm that's how I kind

1121
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: of a process and like realized why I did what

1122
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: I did, um, and why I wasn't where I thought

1123
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,479
Speaker 1: I should be. I'm like, listen, I didn't. I haven't

1124
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: even known her for that long. Yeah, I mean it

1125
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: can work, Like that's the thing is we've said it

1126
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: can work, but there's still a lot to be I mean,

1127
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Harrison would agree, like once the

1128
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: show's done, there's still a lot to get to know.

1129
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: And it works sometimes like in a beautiful way. Like

1130
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: all the pieces still aligned, and you go, yeah, this

1131
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: is amazing, like it's it's been proven. But there there's

1132
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: moments where all of a sudden, you go, I'm not

1133
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, for multiple reasons, like I'm not into this

1134
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: as much as I thought I was, and because of that,

1135
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: it's not fair to continue. I get that. Um, you know,

1136
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: I've been through similar things. It doesn't make it any easier,

1137
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: and it doesn't make it any easier to understand from

1138
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: a public point of view, But I know. And what's

1139
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: tough too, is like you guys, you you then remember

1140
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: you like I asked you for so much advice about

1141
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: because I would you know, I was possibly having struggles

1142
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: and and whatnot. And you know the biggest struggles. You know,

1143
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: you guys don't have that super solid foundation formed yet.

1144
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: You just don't. You can't. It is not enough time.

1145
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: And now you gotta go thrust into a couple of

1146
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: months of isolation. You're not even getting to see each other,

1147
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, except for a couple of times here and there.

1148
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: You have all these comments, all these rumors coming out

1149
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: about you guys, all these kind of attacks on the relationship.

1150
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: It's tough, you know, And I remember you just being

1151
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: like just constantly reassurance to her, like you know, you

1152
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: don't know who it was, but like give it to her,

1153
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: give it to her, and um, it's it's just a

1154
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: really tough situation. To me, I didn't expect it to

1155
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: be that tough. It just comes time in years. I

1156
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: didn't know what how this ended. I mean, usually the

1157
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: Bachelor will call and say, hey, Ben, like something I

1158
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: can talk about, like, you know, can I trust you?

1159
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: And I think the show I don't know if they did,

1160
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: but the show usually goes, yeah, you can call Ben,

1161
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: like talk to him about it. He's good for this.

1162
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: And then for you had no clue. It was just like, hey,

1163
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know how this ended. Actually,

1164
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: and I were like, I would have no clue. We didn't, um,

1165
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: but it was like reassure her that you're trying. I

1166
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: guess it's like the best you can do. Um. Actually,

1167
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: sorry I cut you off there, No, no, I just

1168
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: listen to your story. Peter makes me feel like you

1169
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: got put in a really sticky situation once Madison was

1170
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: brought back into the picture. When you didn't decide to

1171
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: bring her back into the picture at that point, because

1172
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: it sounds like you and Hannah and were just incompatible

1173
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: and it wasn't Was it unfair to bring Madison into

1174
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: that so quickly? Um, I guess from how the TV

1175
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: played it, it wasn't necessarily that quickly. Um. You know,

1176
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: we had broken up in in January. Um, and then

1177
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't see Madison until I think it

1178
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: would have maybe late late February early early March, right

1179
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: before the finale. Um. It wasn't like right away, but yeah,

1180
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: it was that confused. Yeah, and that confused me even more. Yeah,

1181
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: it did. Um. I don't know if I would say unfair,

1182
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: but just confusing the you know, I want everybody out

1183
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: there listening, because I do think Peter, there's uh, I

1184
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: think your story is so complex. Like I think what

1185
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: we watched in your season at first was like, oh this,

1186
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: we're not getting to know these women at all. Peter

1187
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: is just like super confused. There's chaos all the time,

1188
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: But really, when you dig below the surface, it's because

1189
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: there is a lot of complexity to it. You know,

1190
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: we don't take into account a lot of times, like

1191
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: what you were doing to try to protect these girls,

1192
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: or what you weren't saying to try to protect these girls,

1193
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: or what you weren't saying to try to protect relationships

1194
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: or then fast forward, as we just talked about, like

1195
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: move into breakups and engagements, and like, there's so much

1196
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: left unsaid and left unseen that just confuse us. Um,

1197
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: And so I want to take the remainder of this

1198
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 1: podcast to dive into the things that have been most

1199
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: confusing for us as viewers of fans, as friends, as

1200
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: you know, family. Um. But let's take a break, take

1201
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: a breather, a good glass of water. We'll come back

1202
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: with Peter on the Almost Famous in Death podcast. We're

1203
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: back with Peter Webber. Peter, Uh, just to summarize what

1204
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: we've been so far. We just got done talking about

1205
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: Hannah and and your engagement and your breakup and kind

1206
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: of some of the reasons why. I'm sure that doesn't

1207
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: explain at all, but that you know, we get a

1208
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: good taste of why it ended the way it did.

1209
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: You know. Now we flash forward in the time in between, um,

1210
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: because we're gonna do this podcast kind in a timeline.

1211
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: We see the finale and one of the things that

1212
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: broke my heart, and I don't know if you've listened

1213
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: to the podcast before. Uh, Peter, but you know, my mom,

1214
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: my dad and I are very close. Uh. I love

1215
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: them dearly. During the show, one of my biggest fears

1216
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: was how they would come off, because I know they

1217
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: didn't sign up for this. Um. It's one of the

1218
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: reasons why when we did uh the live shows with him,

1219
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: I said, hey, just be very like when you start

1220
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: to think, you want to say something like check yourself

1221
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: seven times before you start to speak, because they get

1222
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: very passionate their parents of a kid who let's be

1223
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: clear here, uh, outside of a few exemptions, like their

1224
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: parents of kids who are getting engaged on a show

1225
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: two people they've never met, especially when they care about

1226
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: their son or daughter. Uh. And this is something I

1227
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: mean for me and my family comes from a background

1228
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: of faith. Like my mom has told me many times

1229
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: she's prayed for my wife since the day I was born.

1230
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that coming from a like me coming

1231
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: to her one day in a two hour period and going, hey, Mom,

1232
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: this is my wife. I get my parents freak out

1233
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: and actually feel alone here, Like my parents had a

1234
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: really hard time with this, Okay, Um, but that still

1235
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: doesn't negate and I want you as a son, because

1236
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: I can only imagine, man, like if I was you,

1237
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: like Ashley can attest to this. Yes, just like you know,

1238
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: fans of the show, we're like, what was Barb doing?

1239
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure you felt the same way, like Mom, I

1240
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: would feel the same way, Mom, what are you doing?

1241
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: Please stop talking, like we'll figure this out later. Just

1242
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: like not on natural television. I can't do this now,

1243
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: skip over that because that happened as a son trying

1244
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: to protect his mother and seeing the record, like the

1245
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: repercussion from her comments and her behavior on a show,

1246
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: and knowing where it came from. What does that feel

1247
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: like to you? It? Really it was tough for a while,

1248
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: especially at the beginning. Um, those were some like tough

1249
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: days just to like see, yeah, the attention that my

1250
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: mom was getting in that way, um and then just

1251
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: having but just having time to kind of like really

1252
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: reflect on it and just talk with my mom and everything. Um.

1253
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: Listen again, I know that my mom. Everyone that knows

1254
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: Barb knows that she's extremely passionate and um emotional, and

1255
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I get that from. But there's

1256
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: one thing that I wish I got a little bit

1257
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: more from my mom, and that was just again like her,

1258
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: like her voice, and again we don't have to discuss

1259
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: like the delivery of it, because that obviously just it was.

1260
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: It could have been different, but her voice and not

1261
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: being afraid or wanting to like just follow the you know,

1262
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: the direction of how a conversation should be going or

1263
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: that that part of the show. You know, like she

1264
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: she effectively was standing up for me and what she

1265
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: truly thought was in my best interest. And um, that's

1266
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: something that's not easy to do against against so much opposition.

1267
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: It's just not and something I just wish that I

1268
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: had a little bit more of in me, um, you know,

1269
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: and just like having my voice be heard and putting

1270
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: my foot down in situations and just be like no,

1271
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: like this is what I feel. And um, but Peter

1272
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: like and maybe and tell me if I'm crazy here.

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01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: H But as much as I know my mom, like

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01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: my mom had trouble, I'll be as as clear as that,

1275
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: like she had troubles trouble with my experience on this

1276
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: she loves you know. There was this time where when Jessica,

1277
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: my fiance now and I first met, my mom wrote

1278
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,959
Speaker 1: me or actually called me. She wrote me a letter,

1279
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: uh previous relationship, but called me this time and she

1280
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: just said, I just want you to know how happy

1281
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 1: I am for you, like and like those words mental

1282
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: lot to me. I knew that they weren't coming lightly.

1283
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: I knew there was a heaviness to them, but a

1284
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: heaviness that I loved and appreciated because I knew she

1285
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: had that I had her support, uh with my my

1286
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: now fiance. But I say this in the context of

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01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: I remember during the sea the time on these final shows,

1288
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: being having a fear of embarrassment, like a middle school

1289
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: me came back out of me and it was like, Mom,

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01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: please don't say dad, Mom, and dad, please don't say

1291
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: anything too crazy here out of protection of me, because

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01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: I know it's coming from a good place, because of

1293
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: the embarrassment that will ensue for me afterwards. And I

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01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: don't want to be embarrassed for you because I love you,

1295
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: and so like you say that, like I know we

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01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: all know that Barb is coming from a place of

1297
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: protection and love for you, like that's never been questioned.

1298
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: But the part that hurt was like some level, and

1299
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: and you yell at me if you don't agree, like

1300
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: at some level's embarrassing, like it would have embarrassed me too.

1301
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 1: I had a fear of, like, Mom, please, Dad, please

1302
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: don't say too much because I don't want to have

1303
01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: to protect you the public, because I love you so

1304
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: much and I know you're coming from a good place,

1305
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: but they might not. Yeah, I I could totally see

1306
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: how that could like be embarrassing. I really could. But

1307
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: I think that I don't know, I guess maybe just

1308
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: the way I've been raised in like in like that,

1309
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: that's just every household, you know. They usually conversations like

1310
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: that occur behind closed doors, but conversations like that do occur,

1311
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: and there's no doubt about that. Ours just happened, happen

1312
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: on live television, and I don't know, I maybe I'm

1313
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: weird about it, but it's I was just in that moment,

1314
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: I was trying to stand up for what I was,

1315
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, I believe in what I wanted, But I

1316
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: don't I never looked at it as as embarrassing or

1317
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: anything like that. It's just I guess we've just kind

1318
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: of I don't know, I guess we've just become so

1319
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: open to kind of having been in this world for

1320
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: the last year and obviously my parents were really involved

1321
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: with both seasons. Um, just letting people into our a

1322
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: conversation that occurs between family members, and not every conversation

1323
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: is pretty and not every conversation people agree on and

1324
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: it's all butterflies. That's real life. And I think at

1325
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's one of the beauties

1326
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: of the show. Is it just it is real life. Yeah,

1327
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: as a production that happens, of course, is there's something

1328
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: that has to happen for drama entertainment, sure, but you know,

1329
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: one of the beauties is it's real life. And that

1330
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: was just another aspect of real life that Yeah, it's

1331
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: never been shown before on TV, but that was just

1332
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: family talking and family doesn't always agree. There's nothing wrong

1333
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: with that. So uh So then I asked, so if

1334
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: that's and and that's great man, I'm I agree with you.

1335
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: That's a good perspectives. Like these conversations. You know, you

1336
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, Ashley's dogs bark in the background and she

1337
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: yells at her mom. You know, my parents walk through

1338
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: the background of the video and they distract me and

1339
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, get out of the room. Like that

1340
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: just happens, Like that's part of life. That's a part

1341
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: of the relationship. So then it leads me to this

1342
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: is if this was hard to watch on TV, Uh,

1343
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: it was real life things as we've talked about. Um,

1344
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 1: for Anny, bet there listening that goes hey like but

1345
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: but okay. But these kind of conversations are also the

1346
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: conversations that can separate families right right when talking about

1347
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: significant others, when talking about love, when talking about future,

1348
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: like yes, for you, this might have felt like, of

1349
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: course she's protecting me, but for somebody out there watching

1350
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: could have been like, oh, if my family had that

1351
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: kind of conversation, this ruins us. So if somebody's listening

1352
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: going like that felt like a heavier conversation than my

1353
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: family has ever had, and that felt harder to come

1354
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,839
Speaker 1: back from than anything I've ever experienced with my parents,

1355
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: what was the healing process? Like? Uh? And as much

1356
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: detail the better, because I do think there's probably somebody

1357
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 1: out there going how in the world do you heal

1358
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: and come back together and love and support for your

1359
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: family after seeing that kind of conversation go down. Yeah,

1360
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: I mean I just I I took I went back

1361
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: to the hotel, was there for a couple of days. Um,

1362
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 1: just obviously everyone just took some time to cool down.

1363
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: We were, you know, just texting each other and just

1364
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: checking in, making sure doing okay, but you know, just

1365
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: giving it some time. And um, you know, after the

1366
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: conversation I had had with uh, with Maddie and we

1367
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: decided to just you know, go our separate ways, you know,

1368
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: I went home and um, I yeah, it was it.

1369
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: You know, a little awkward at first, of course, but

1370
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, I it's just I know it probably sounds crazy,

1371
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: but like my family just we just have always been

1372
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: so close and it's like one of those things where

1373
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, I remember walking in and my parents were

1374
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: they were making uh, they were making dinner in the

1375
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, and I just went up first. I

1376
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: just like I gave him a hug, and I like,

1377
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: I went mom for a long time, get my dad

1378
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: a hug, and um, you know, I just told him

1379
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: that I loved them, and you know, we started talking

1380
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: about obviously what had gone down, um, and and that

1381
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: was it, Like that was I know, it sounds like

1382
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: that sounds insane, but like it wasn't. My My parents

1383
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: weren't like they weren't attacking, you know, they weren't attacking

1384
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: me or uh. They were always trying to have my

1385
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: back in that. And so we just discussed. I pretty

1386
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: much explained to them the conversations that I had had

1387
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: with Madison and kind of like how I see it,

1388
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: and you guys, yeah, you've kind of been right. You

1389
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: have been right, and um, it's never been like my

1390
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: parents they never had they never like hated Madison. It

1391
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: wasn't that. It just they knew that it wasn't gonna work.

1392
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: And that's where there, that's what was causing the direction

1393
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: of that of that conversation. Um. Yeah, I don't know.

1394
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: I think people were like maybe hope, I don't know

1395
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: if they want to see like drama or attention, but

1396
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: it's just not the way my family roles, Like I

1397
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just we're very close knit and close

1398
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: and um, I mean, if anybody's sitting out there, no

1399
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: matter what your parents did, no like they could like

1400
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: and they're going, I hope this like ends poorly for them,

1401
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: Like I want to see drama, intension, and I want

1402
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: to hear a story of them like slamming doors in

1403
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: their face and not talking for two weeks, like that's

1404
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: messed up. Oh yeah, I ask you this question because

1405
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there was healing. Uh, it's all

1406
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: we wanted. Yes, it made for a lot of conversation,

1407
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: and it made for more more of the healing then

1408
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 1: was coming from us. Just like I wanted to be

1409
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: there for my parents, my parents wanted to be there

1410
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: for me, and we I guess just it just knew

1411
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: that it would be better to be supportive of each

1412
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: other and be there for each other because we were

1413
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: getting attacked just from the outside, so we didn't have

1414
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: to be attacking each other. Not that we would have

1415
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,759
Speaker 1: done that, but it just just for that healing process,

1416
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: which you're so right, we are still going through. Um,

1417
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: I just knew that, you know, come together, don't push

1418
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: each other apart right now, And that's kind of why

1419
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: we did that. I would. I think there becomes an

1420
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: age in like a maturity level where if you have

1421
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: the ability, right, there's obviously pain within families that you

1422
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: and I haven't experienced and we can't speak to, but

1423
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 1: there becomes a maturity level of a sudden you do

1424
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 1: make that commitment like your parents make it to you,

1425
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 1: and you make it them to say like no matter what,

1426
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna have your back here and I love

1427
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 1: you and no matter what, no matter what, and like

1428
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna work through some really tough stuff because we're

1429
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: all human and we all mess up, and we all

1430
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: it gets convoluted and crazy, especially when your son goes

1431
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: on national television to find love. I get that I've

1432
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: been there, buddy. Um My mom and dad and I

1433
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: are closer than ever. Um, and I'm glad to hear

1434
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: that there there was healing or they're just like there

1435
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: was like a process to work through. Um, Peter, we

1436
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: got to jump into you today and I know we've

1437
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: kept you longer than we told you. But uh, there's

1438
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: some there's just some massive headlines. I mean I'm gonna

1439
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: read them here. Um, just a few. Uh that's brought

1440
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: you to this point. Uh talk, This is not coming

1441
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: from the almost famous podcast. These are things that you're

1442
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: reading as well. So much for True Love. Bachelor Peter

1443
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: Webber and Madison Pruitt split days after dramaic finale. Peter

1444
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: Webber and Kelly Flannagin appeared to confirm romance rumors as

1445
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: bachelor starts to isolate together. Uh. Um, you know we've

1446
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: had I'll skip over some of these here. The point

1447
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: of that was, like, you've been on the news. You

1448
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: haven't stopped being in the news, um since your time

1449
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:14,480
Speaker 1: on the show, Um, just a few short weeks ago, Kelly,

1450
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: what would you like to say? Like, what what is

1451
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: going on there? Uh? Pretty bed out there listening. It's

1452
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: reading rumors that are seeing the pictures. Like, it's not

1453
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: a secret you guys are together. I mean I think

1454
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 1: you're I just got a TikTok to you and I

1455
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: are being compared to each other by how bad we wait,

1456
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: we don't like, do a TikTok challenge together or something. Yeah,

1457
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 1: to see who to get the most mean comments. That'll

1458
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: be good. But they're actually energy. Those I love to read.

1459
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: Those are fun. So it's not a secret you guys

1460
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: are hanging out. Uh. Truth is truth is truth, as

1461
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: we like to say, here, tell us your truth. What

1462
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: is going on? What do you want the world to know? Yeah?

1463
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: So my truth? I mean I'm in Kelly's apartment right now. Uh,

1464
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm in Chicago, so I'm quarantined up with her and

1465
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: Destin and let's see. So to go back so people

1466
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: can understand this. Um, we so we had met up

1467
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: again in l A when we just through like a

1468
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: mutual friend Christian. I'm not sure if you know Christian Haggardy,

1469
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: UM shout out to her. Just had her birthday eight

1470
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: but she was so Kelly uh is good friends with

1471
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: one of Christian's friends and Katie and through her brothers

1472
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 1: and so Christian and then we're hanging out. I was

1473
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: a Dylan. We uh all ended up un into each

1474
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: other that one night in l A got her number

1475
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: and UM started communicating always just you know, obviously been

1476
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: very supportive of each other. UM. And then pretty much

1477
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: long story short, you know, Kelly was you know, having

1478
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: some stuff she was doing with with her family, just

1479
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: um like um, just like health issue stuff. And UM,

1480
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't flying for a while, so you know, I

1481
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: knew she was by herself. She never roommates. I guess

1482
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: her family was all in Florida, she was in Chicago.

1483
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: Decided to fly out and spent some time with her

1484
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: and just kind of take her mind off things. UM.

1485
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: That's when this was all kind of like the quarantine

1486
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: stuff was like okay, stay home and UM, so I

1487
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: decided to just kind of make this kind of like

1488
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: my home base. UM. On top of that, I realized

1489
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: it's probably smart to do because my parents are in

1490
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: their sixties. I still wanted to live at home, not

1491
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 1: going to risk you know, obviously I have to fly

1492
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: still as an essential workers, so I didn't want to

1493
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: risk bringing something home to them. So this is the

1494
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: place to be. And UM, you know, we've just been

1495
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: hanging out and we really get along really really well.

1496
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 1: And I you know, I love you know, every second

1497
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: I spent with Kelly. UM. You know, she's an amazing

1498
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 1: person and we just always have been supportive of each other. Um,

1499
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, are are we dating? No? Um? I am

1500
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: the first person to admit that I I've been through

1501
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: so much, the emotional roller coaster of all roller coasters,

1502
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: and the last thing I need to do is to

1503
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: jump into another relationship. I just was engaged a couple

1504
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: weeks ago, figuring out another relationship. But Kelly has just

1505
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: been someone that is just honestly just She's been there

1506
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: for me and something that I just really really appreciate,

1507
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to be there for her. Um. And

1508
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: we just we get along really well and have really

1509
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: good chemistry. And you know, who knows what the future holds. Um,

1510
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying nothing could happen, but right now, I

1511
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: just taking things really slow and enjoying each other's time.

1512
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,839
Speaker 1: This is one of the only times in the history

1513
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: of the world that, especially for you, Peter, that you

1514
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: could literally make the comment we're not dating, but because

1515
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: of self isolation, it's not weird to say you're living together. Okay,

1516
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: That's why I was just going to clarify. I was gonna, like,

1517
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: you say you're not dating. You're saying that you're not exclusive,

1518
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: but you're like definitely kissing, right listen, No, no, no

1519
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 1: comment on that, but I will just say that, Um,

1520
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,919
Speaker 1: it is weird, right, just keeps getting more and more confusing,

1521
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: Like what's up with my life right now? What's next?

1522
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know? Um, but no, yeah, there's there's no rumors.

1523
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 1: That's just that's the truth. And um, I mean Kelly

1524
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: is in there. If you guys wanted to see hider

1525
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: so but yeah, yeah Kelly, yeah, bring her in here. Um, Peter,

1526
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 1: you as she walks in and get kind of gets

1527
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 1: settled here. Um, you seem not oddly. I was gonna

1528
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: say oddly, that's the wrong word. You seem uh more

1529
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: at peace right now, um than what I expected, right,

1530
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: like I just expected. I mean, I think anytime anybody

1531
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 1: gets off of a season, if it ends well or not,

1532
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: there's like this anxiety. There's this little panic. It's a

1533
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: confusion on how to enter back into the world. You

1534
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: get more attention than ever. People are taking pictures of

1535
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: you walking down the street, like it gets weird. You

1536
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: seem very much at peace right now. Would um and

1537
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 1: I hope Kelly does coming because I would love for

1538
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: you to hear this, But like, how much of that

1539
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: is because of Kelly? Honestly a time, Um, yeah, Kelly

1540
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 1: is just I mean since we kind of reconnected, Um,

1541
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: you know, I know, it's so funny, like everyone thought

1542
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: that there was this thing with my mom and Kelly.

1543
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: Wait before that really wasn't My mom just really supportive

1544
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: of Kelly and like Kelly, I don't know if there

1545
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: was the whole Chicago connection, but um, so Kelly is

1546
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: just constantly shown me that support and just been someone

1547
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: that I've been able to talk to you that kind

1548
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: of just gets it. We just went through a very

1549
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: similar experience and we just unfortunately on the show, like

1550
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: the show wasn't the perfect avenue for us to really

1551
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: get along well. But life's weird and you you know

1552
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: how you always say, like you things happen for a reason,

1553
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: and you know, you never know why it's happening or

1554
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: you know in the moment. But um, I don't know.

1555
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 1: Kelly just someone that I'm extremely grateful for that you know,

1556
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: she can be in my life right now, Um, and

1557
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: during such a difficult time. Uh she I know, she

1558
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: always made the comments like on this show like oh,

1559
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: she just wants to have fun and like I wasn't

1560
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: having enough fun and like rewarding the you know, the

1561
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: drama or whatnot. But Kelly is like the smartest person

1562
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: I ever met and just um is so patient and

1563
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: just uh, it's just someone that I at the end,

1564
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: they just really get along with really well, and honestly,

1565
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,560
Speaker 1: like I I'm just really happy that we're able to

1566
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: spend time together during this time. And that's probably why

1567
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: you're seeing me, Um maybe not so down and and ancious.

1568
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 1: Trust me, I've been that way. I've I've had my moments,

1569
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: but um, Kelly's definitely helped me kind of push through

1570
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: that and you know I owe a lot of that

1571
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: to her. I gotta say, from a rom com point

1572
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: of view, your relationship with Kelly and all the serendipity

1573
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 1: that just keeps popping up, the fact that you guys

1574
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: met before the show, you kept running into each other

1575
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 1: in the middle of the show. Uh, definitely mix for

1576
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: a good movie ending if you guys do end up,

1577
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 1: you know, finishing this quarantine with wanting to spend even

1578
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: more time together. Right, I guess that'll be the true test.

1579
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 1: Once we're a lot of like escape and leave this department,

1580
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: are we're gonna still spend all our time? Hello, Howdy,

1581
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: all right, we got a special guest appearance. Hey, Kelly,

1582
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: come on down and sit for it's just a second here.

1583
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 1: Hey Kelly, Hello, it's the attorney. Chop Chop Kelly. We

1584
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 1: just got done talking to Peter a little bit about

1585
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: kind of how you guys reconnected and um, what you

1586
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: guys are doing right now. He said, it's funny he

1587
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: won't admit that you're dating, but he says you're like

1588
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: self isolating together. So I said, it's the only time

1589
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: that you can live together without dating, and it's okay

1590
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 1: for the world. Um. He also has mentioned how good

1591
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: you've been to him during this whole experiences he's kind

1592
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 1: of going through not recovery, but just like processing at all.

1593
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 1: Why are you being so good to this man? Like

1594
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 1: why what is it that you've seen in him? What

1595
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: is it that you've empathized with that you're going I

1596
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: need to lean into this, this person who I'm assuming

1597
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: you care about in some way, to be completely honest,

1598
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, but since I've been young, I've always

1599
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 1: just been like a little helper in terms of taking

1600
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 1: people under my wing and just like kind of leading

1601
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: them in the right direction. And especially with him, like

1602
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,080
Speaker 1: you could tell he's super smart and he gets it,

1603
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: but there's some things where you just want to shake

1604
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: him and be like wake up, Like why what are

1605
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: you doing? I don't know why I took it, like

1606
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: in under why I took him under my wing? But

1607
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: there's just some things that I could see that I

1608
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 1: could tell he couldn't see, and I just felt the

1609
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 1: need to be like, Peter, what the hell are you doing?

1610
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: And especially with him, I could be like completely honest

1611
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: with him, like believe me, I don't hold back on anything.

1612
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: Like he hears the hard truth on everything, whether whether

1613
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: it's mean, rude, he doesn't want to hear it, um,

1614
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, and he's able to handle it, and I

1615
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: like people that are like that. I became really close

1616
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: with Kelsey on the show as well just before that

1617
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: for that reason, like I could speak my mind and

1618
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: she's not going to sit there and take it in

1619
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: like a rude way, Like I'm not sitting here trying

1620
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: to be malicious and anything that I do, I'm just

1621
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 1: trying to help them. Um, where did pet help then?

1622
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: I mean if that's if that's what you're saying, like

1623
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: kind of like drew you in and we get it.

1624
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: Like I've known Peter since he started this whole thing,

1625
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: like he's I've always said, like he's he's a nice guy,

1626
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 1: he's a great guy. There are things that he did

1627
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: there this season not I'm I would have told him

1628
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: as a friend and like don't do that, Like that's crazy,

1629
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: Like like as a buddy to buddy, I would have said, like, hey,

1630
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: that wasn't smart, Not that you were like ruining anybody's life,

1631
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: just like not smart? What what like what were the

1632
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: things that you saw in him that you're like I

1633
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 1: want to help And why would you want to help him?

1634
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: I've always said to him too, like I'm always willing

1635
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: to help if I see, I would rather hang out

1636
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: with someone who has absolutely nothing. They could be like

1637
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: a bum on the streets, but if they have a

1638
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: good heart, I would rather help that person than like

1639
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: a pompous pole who you know has everything and has

1640
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 1: to tell you how much he has. And with him,

1641
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: I just saw he has such a good heart, and

1642
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 1: I saw that he was getting manipulated every which way,

1643
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: and it just like kind of piste me off. And um, again,

1644
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't the best contestant for the show, and I

1645
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: think everyone knows that, but even with him on the show,

1646
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 1: I would see him getting manipulated, and I just want

1647
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: to be like, can you stop, like make your own decision,

1648
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 1: like stop, um, even in terms with him and him

1649
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: and my relationship on the show, you know, the first

1650
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: couple the first couple of weeks, I saw him like,

1651
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 1: look at me differently compared to when we got on

1652
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: our one on one, And I could tell a hundred

1653
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 1: percent that like producers were in his head because on

1654
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: the one on one nothing happened between us, but he

1655
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: had this like demeanor towards me that was like so

1656
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: piste off. And I was looking at him like, what

1657
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: the hell were you told because you know what, nothing

1658
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: happen here for you to have this, to have this attitude.

1659
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: And so right then and there, I knew something was

1660
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: like going on behind the scenes, and I was like,

1661
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: this is bullshit. So on our one on one which

1662
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: no one really saw, no one really saw, was um,

1663
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: I just called it out. I looked at him and

1664
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: I said, can I just speak freely? And he was like,

1665
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 1: go ahead. And I was like, hey, Peter, they don't

1666
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: let me see you. They locked me up in a

1667
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: closet for three hours last week and they won't let

1668
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 1: me see you. I said, you clearly know they pushed

1669
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: some people for and they don't push others forward. And

1670
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: I was like, you've been in my position before. What

1671
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: do you want me to do? Um? But no, it's

1672
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 1: just I saw him like things were getting in his

1673
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: head that he wasn't able to make his own decision,

1674
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: and it just kind of piste me off. And I

1675
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: really don't know, because he asked me all the time,

1676
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: he was like, why do you even help me? I said,

1677
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: I really don't know. But at the end of the day,

1678
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: he has a great heart and I see that, and

1679
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: I think that's something that I was just like here, look,

1680
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: I see this. I see that you take it for

1681
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: what it is. Peter, you mentioned earlier that you think

1682
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: that maybe you and Hannah and didn't challenge you enough

1683
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: in your relationship. Do you feel like you found your

1684
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: challenger just here? Oh my god, I'm nice to short

1685
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: short answer. Yeah, No, it is very grateful for her

1686
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: throughout all this and yeah, and all the patients that

1687
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 1: she's Well, it's interesting between you guys and what seems

1688
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 1: to be going down between Hannah By and Tyler. We

1689
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: have a couple of couples to be on or not couple.

1690
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: Sorry not to label it, but we have a couple

1691
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 1: of people feeling things out that will be interesting, um

1692
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 1: to see what happens given the amount of alone together

1693
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 1: in this time you guys will be having Kelly, thank

1694
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: you for jumping on. It's been fun for us to

1695
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: follow the stories. I know it's been crazy. I know

1696
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: you know there's a thousand different opinions, but thanks for

1697
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: coming on the podcast, thanks for talking to us, and

1698
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: thanks for looking at for this guy. Um um keep

1699
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: doing your isolations saying uh, Peter, be before Ashley has

1700
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: a little fun with here. I want to just take

1701
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: a second and talk to you, um and ask you

1702
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: one kind of open ended question. We always like to

1703
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,719
Speaker 1: give our guest the opportunity on the in depth episode

1704
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: to kind of speak your truth to everybody listening. Um.

1705
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: Some people come to the almost in Depth podcast Uh

1706
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: in kind of a hard place. Uh maybe uh, just

1707
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: a dark place. Some people come here just to share

1708
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: who they what they're doing, and how happy they are. UM.

1709
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 1: I would love for you to explain kind of again

1710
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: where you're at, uh, and then where do you want

1711
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: this to go? Like what now are you hopeful for?

1712
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: Where are you finding hope today? Where do you hope

1713
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 1: this whole experience takes you? Where do you hope your

1714
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: time with Kelly takes you? And good people? I mean,

1715
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: I know Kelly isn't the only one you're spending time

1716
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: with right now? Like where do you hope this this

1717
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: time of kind of being an isolation goes? Uh? This

1718
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: is a minute, two minutes however long you need to

1719
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: just speak to our listeners on who Peter Webber is,

1720
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: Where do you want to go and how are you doing? Yeah?

1721
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: I I so Peter Webber. Um, has you know I've

1722
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: experienced just so much in this last year. Um, that

1723
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take with me, yeah, for the rest of

1724
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: my life. And um, you know, just every every relationship

1725
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: that I that I had on this show you know

1726
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: obviously worked or didn't work. Um, just growing from that

1727
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: and learning to you know, take time and like not

1728
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 1: rushing to anything like I've done just so many times

1729
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: in the past, to truly just like, uh, you know,

1730
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: do do stuff for me and like not not be

1731
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: so much of um someone that's just trying to please someone,

1732
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: and just uh and not put my foot down, like

1733
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: just put myself forward a little bit more. Um. That's

1734
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things. If I want to do

1735
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 1: the show over again, I would have done. And after

1736
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: the show that I'm one. That's that's me now going forward. Um,

1737
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: I you know, throughout all this like isolation right now,

1738
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: and like everyone has so much time to kind of

1739
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: just process it and just reflect on everything about your life. Um.

1740
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking forward to the future now that

1741
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: more than I ever have, and I think all of

1742
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,759
Speaker 1: us are. And like one of the beautiful things about

1743
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 1: this isolation is no one's going to take anything for

1744
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: In my opinion, no one that takes anything for granted.

1745
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: After this is done. We're released. We're free to do whatever,

1746
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: like go out and just do what you need to

1747
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 1: do and just hopefully use this time to be like

1748
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: focusing on yourself, focusing on relationships that you know with

1749
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: the people closest to you, and just become a better

1750
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,919
Speaker 1: person and just not take anything for granted and regards.

1751
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: Like with Kelly, Um, you know, who knows like what

1752
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: this turns into right now, I just know that I

1753
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: I love the time that I spend with her, and

1754
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: for whatever weird, crazy reason, we are in each other's

1755
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: lives right now, and it's weird. I know it's it's

1756
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: insanely serendipitous. But um, you know, I'm just excited and

1757
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm in a really good spot now and

1758
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that I can say that because you know,

1759
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: even a couple of weeks ago, I wasn't there. But

1760
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: I just feel like such a stronger person, such a

1761
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 1: more confident person, someone that knows what they want, um

1762
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 1: and how to go about that, and I just I

1763
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: just I just I'm grateful for that. That's what a

1764
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,879
Speaker 1: good partner does. Man. So I was going to say,

1765
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: that's what a good part does, So okay, Uh, final too,

1766
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: to just clean up that some of that and make

1767
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 1: help with makes sense. Or are you spending time in

1768
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: Chicago right now for you or just because it was

1769
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 1: serendipitous and you got locked down there? Are you doing

1770
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 1: this for yourself? Uh? Honestly, it's both. Like I I'm

1771
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: enjoying my time, so I don't want to leave, um

1772
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: except for when I have to go to work. Um.

1773
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: But again also just because you know, not just getting

1774
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: given anything hopefully my parents, um going back home there

1775
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 1: when I do fly Uh, but yeah, I'm not having

1776
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: a good time. And then uh, final two things here.

1777
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 1: One is for both of you just to clear cleared

1778
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: up because I do think one of the hardest parts

1779
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: has been as Kelly said, like sometimes it's like we

1780
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 1: just need like the full truth to get out there,

1781
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 1: yes or no, Like we need to fully understand is

1782
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 1: there a crush going on here? Like is there a

1783
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: crushing going happening between both of you? Kelly, you can

1784
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 1: answer that as well. Yeah, definitely crushing on her for sure.

1785
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: So that means that Nick vile Kelly is not like

1786
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: in the picture. I don't know what happened with that. Okay.

1787
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 1: Nick wanted me to post it, and I was like

1788
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 1: skeptical because I was like, why is my post that?

1789
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: And now he's out to be like, oh what did

1790
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:52,839
Speaker 1: he say that I was cryptic, that I was cryptic.

1791
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not cryptic. Why do I want

1792
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: rumors being spread them? But yeah, but Nick's been supportive

1793
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 1: of all this, so it's funny though. That's hey, we

1794
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: get it, we get it. Hey, Ashley, sorry about that,

1795
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: Kelly Peter, thank you. Now Ashley's gonna have fun with you. Um,

1796
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: this has been this has been a blast, actually taken away.

1797
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 1: I have questions for you guys who are currently quarantined

1798
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: and crushing on each other. Um, what have you spent

1799
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 1: time binging on TV? Oh my god, so we've been

1800
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 1: we finally finished it, but Tiger King. But we we

1801
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 1: are two people that we just had a d D

1802
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: to like the like Ultimate Extreme, and so it took

1803
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: us And I told him like seven or eight episodes,

1804
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: but it took us probably like a week of like

1805
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 1: trying to watch it. Same here, same here. Jared and

1806
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: I weren't like that impressed people. It wouldn't be that

1807
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 1: big of a show if people weren't quarantined. Right now,

1808
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty shocking. It's pretty crazy. And

1809
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: then people keep telling me that I looked like the

1810
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 1: freaking guy as the travesty, not not the husband, the

1811
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 1: former husband. Okay, Um, any good movies you've watched together?

1812
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: Since we stuck at watching it like we were doing

1813
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: puzzles for a bit, We've been doing We've been doing

1814
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: a lot of dances. We have a lot of dances

1815
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: to release. You just gotta work. What's your favorite food

1816
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:14,480
Speaker 1: to deliver together? There's a lot um. So, yeah, Chicago

1817
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: is known for the beef sandwiches, and so I used

1818
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 1: to live in Chicago for you know, when I was

1819
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 1: really little, and there's a really great beef place here

1820
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 1: called Mr Beef, but Kelly introduced me to a new

1821
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: one called Portillo's. So honestly, I probably fifteen pounds since

1822
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: I've been here and get that almost every day. Actually,

1823
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 1: it's so bad, Like I thought I was gonna lose

1824
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: weight and quarantine because I was doing an amazing job

1825
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 1: at intermitted fasting. I was like going sixteen plus hours

1826
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 1: without eating and now but like, but the meals have

1827
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 1: been so heavy, so cheesy, that's hilarious. Um, Okay, is

1828
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: Chicago now on the map for a place that you'd

1829
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 1: move once you officially move out of your parents is Chicago. Um. Honestly,

1830
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 1: I I I've always thought New York or l a um,

1831
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 1: but I don't know who knows. I Chicago is kind

1832
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: of similar in New York. Um, I don't know. We'll see.

1833
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 1: So you guys have really enjoyed tick talking and crushing

1834
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: on each other. What is the pet peeve that you

1835
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:22,560
Speaker 1: guys have both discovered about each other since being quarantined?

1836
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: The pet whenever we go to Portillos? What are saying

1837
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: we go to Portillo when we pick it up? Oh,

1838
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 1: so Kelly is she's got a weird pet peeve that

1839
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 1: she can't have hot anything hot on her lap. And

1840
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: so we do a lot of door dashing, door dashing.

1841
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 1: But when we do decide to try to get out,

1842
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 1: we'll go in the car and like I always like

1843
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: try to keep it on her lap. It's like kind

1844
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: of picks her off. But that's uh, yeah, that's Kelly's

1845
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: pet peeve. What's mine? How do I annoy you? Oh? God,

1846
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 1: I started, I started. I just got a cameo and

1847
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 1: it's so much fun and like I'm like constantly going

1848
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: around just like to it. I'm just having the absolute

1849
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:08,640
Speaker 1: time in my life, and she keeps looking at me

1850
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 1: just oh, I did the one yesterday. It was kind

1851
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: of embarrassing. Then you like caught remember, Oh my god,

1852
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 1: I think there was someone sent a cameo into him

1853
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: that was just like to an ex girlfriend or something

1854
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: that was super rude, and it was like essentially saying,

1855
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: how is your sugar daddy like status doing? But I

1856
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 1: took it totally seriously and read it completely serious, and

1857
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 1: then your ass off after I finished, Like, you're not

1858
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: sending that right, I'm like, what do you mean, I'm not.

1859
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: It was hilarious and she's like, that's like a complete

1860
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: franking joke, scrude. You don't want to be affiliated with that.

1861
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 1: Do not do that. And he was like, what are

1862
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 1: you talking about? And I was like, oh, Kelly with

1863
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 1: the brains killing with the bread right now, he's an

1864
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 1: attorney guy. She's really smart's so quick. I'm just a violet.

1865
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: My last question is a fun one. Right now, if

1866
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 1: there was one girl that you could have taken further

1867
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 1: along in the competition than you did, who would be

1868
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: come on, yus? It's this chop job, right here's amazing. Alright, guys,

1869
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: thank you, You're so wonderful because we're great. This was awesome.

1870
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 1: I wish I was actually kind of hoping that last

1871
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 1: question you just throw one back at her and pick

1872
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:26,719
Speaker 1: somebody else just for fun. But hey, uh, hey uh, Peter,

1873
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: it's been awesome chatting with you. Um, thanks for sharing

1874
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 1: everything with us. I know we kept you over, but

1875
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 1: I I feel like it was worth it. Ashley, UH,

1876
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: and I were very excited to talk to you. Kelly.

1877
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on uh and talking with us both.

1878
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: We do this little thing at the end of every

1879
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,759
Speaker 1: episode and we're just gonna ask you to follow along

1880
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 1: with us here because we're all on this together. UM,

1881
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: so just follow our lead, Okay. On this week's in

1882
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 1: depth episode, Ashley and I get to talk with Peter

1883
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 1: Weber uh and then at the very end, Kelly, it

1884
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: was an awesome podcast, uh, one of a lot of complexity.

1885
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 1: I hope our listeners take a little time to process

1886
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 1: kind of through Peter's emotions and the journey that he's

1887
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: been on and how he's gotten to this point. Yes,

1888
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 1: he's made mistakes, Yes he's done some things. As Kelly

1889
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: mentioned that, we just want to shake him and say

1890
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 1: you can be better, but haven't we all? Um? And

1891
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: and the truth is he shared this whole thing with us,

1892
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 1: and we got to be grateful for that. Uh. We

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