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Speaker 1: We're back on Big Blue Kick Golf Live on this

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Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon. John Schmolke paulled to Tino O t a

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Speaker 1: number nine in the book for the Giants. This morning,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about that and a couple

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Speaker 1: other fun topics you on Big Blue Kickolf Live on

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Speaker 1: Giants dot com. Polly dots long time they'll speak. How

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Speaker 1: are you my friends? Yeah, I've been with Lance the

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Speaker 1: last few shows. Weather is good, very nice for the

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Speaker 1: guys to get out side. Nice spring day, you know.

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Speaker 1: The other day got down here and the sun came

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Speaker 1: out about a half hour before practice, but it was

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Speaker 1: not enough to dry out the field, and so they

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Speaker 1: were inside the other day and that was disappointing, but

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Speaker 1: good to see the guys out there again. And obviously

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Speaker 1: only one more o t a practice to go before

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Speaker 1: next week's minicamp. Today was a shorter one. This is

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Speaker 1: the only time this offseason and the entire spring workout

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Speaker 1: period that the team will practice four straight days. So

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Speaker 1: I think on the third straight day they took it

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Speaker 1: easy a little bit. They only ran two elongated twenty

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Speaker 1: four play periods, one in team and one in seven

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Speaker 1: on seven and then I would imagine tomorrow they're gonna

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Speaker 1: put the guys through the ringer a little bit, considering

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have four days off between the last o

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Speaker 1: t A and the start of mentory Minicamp next Tuesday. So, um,

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Speaker 1: not not a ton of place. Uh today at practice

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Speaker 1: a couple of things I'll give you that just stood

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Speaker 1: out to me because I was out. There's real quick,

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Speaker 1: just to kind of inform um. This should be up

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Speaker 1: on giants dot com hopefully within an hour or two.

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Speaker 1: Um bar And I'll leave the linebacker nameless. He's I'm

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Speaker 1: being kind um because he broke his ankles. He decleted

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Speaker 1: him coming out of a route out of the backfield.

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Speaker 1: He kind of you know, he got to him and

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Speaker 1: he broke him down to the top of the route.

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Speaker 1: Barkley went in and the linebackers went down. It was bad. Um.

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Speaker 1: So it just kind of gives you the feel for

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Speaker 1: what joined the club right right. Um. So I don't

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Speaker 1: want to because it's not even the linebacker's fault. It's

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Speaker 1: not fair. It's not fair. So that's something I point.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. Eli manny Evan Ingram had

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Speaker 1: a couple of nice connections. I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: They had him split out wide on one to play,

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Speaker 1: and today they worked on a lot of um outward routes,

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Speaker 1: a lot of outs in in in today's practice and

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Speaker 1: Ingram was actually lined up on you Norris Jenkins. Would

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Speaker 1: you figure is a tough matchup right? He actually got

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Speaker 1: separation on Jenkins on and out and Eli hit him

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Speaker 1: on the silence. I think it's just says something that

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Speaker 1: a two hundred forty pound tight end can get separation.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't of these places where he's like boxing about. No,

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Speaker 1: he actually gave Eli a step to take him on

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Speaker 1: a perfect out route, and I thought it said something

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Speaker 1: that a two hundred forty pound tight end can get

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Speaker 1: separation quickness probably fourteen yards now it was. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a legitimate mid range, very nice and he

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Speaker 1: had a nice little um corner of fade over the

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Speaker 1: in practice, UM, I thought Kylo Letta has kind of

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Speaker 1: shown some progress the last couple of days. Um, I

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Speaker 1: think there's only for me to know this, So I

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Speaker 1: think this is me kind of guessing. I feel like

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Speaker 1: he's a guy Paul. For him to be successful, he

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Speaker 1: needs to really be able to understand exactly what's happening

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Speaker 1: so we can anticipate and you know, do things before

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Speaker 1: most quarterbacks do. And I feel a little bit like

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Speaker 1: maybe getting thrown into the deep end of the pool

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Speaker 1: and the learning is kind of what forced him to

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Speaker 1: in college, he was an accurate passer and the short intermediate,

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't in the intermediate especial. He really hasn't

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Speaker 1: been that accurate the first couple of weeks of O

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Speaker 1: and that tells me maybe he's getting a little bit

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Speaker 1: more comfortable and there's less thinking, which is allowing him

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarterback in terms of taking a rap and

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Speaker 1: now he's three. They moved him up to three. On Monday.

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Speaker 1: He was three again today. Well you know what, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, he gets maybe two to two passes, two snaps,

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Speaker 1: to see him get a little more. It was split

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Speaker 1: more evenly. I think today Tanny Tanny, I thought I

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Speaker 1: should a really good day of practice. He hit um

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Speaker 1: hodiod on that deep pass ever written down here, uh

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Speaker 1: Drulee Davis. He had on a really nice deep pass

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Speaker 1: right between the corner and safety Grant Hanley made a

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Speaker 1: really nice playing the red zone kind of jumping up

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Speaker 1: on a fade route, getting has head around one hand

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Speaker 1: like this kind of knock at the pass alright. Thought

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Speaker 1: I thought the offense had really efficient in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: Um a lot of completions, especially in the seven on

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Speaker 1: seven red zone portion, which I know seven on seven

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to complete passes it's a big time advantage

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Speaker 1: to the offense. But I thought the offense was had

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Speaker 1: one of their more efficient days of practice in terms

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Speaker 1: of completion percentage today. Well that's good. And at the

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Speaker 1: kicking competition, which I've been kind of keeping track of, uh,

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Speaker 1: today was a Rosas day. Kicked eight field goals, made

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Speaker 1: only five of them, missed one inside of forty and

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Speaker 1: then missed one outside of fifty. So that was and

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Speaker 1: that was probably his worst kicking day that I've seen

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Speaker 1: so far. He's he's pretty much being consistently six of seven,

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Speaker 1: seven of eight, six of eight on most of these days,

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Speaker 1: but he actually missed three today, which I was disappointed by.

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Speaker 1: You know, as just Eagles has said to us many times,

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Speaker 1: and it stands to reason, um, the practice kicks that

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Speaker 1: those guys get, even though they can't duplicate game conditions,

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Speaker 1: obviously a game is a game. There's probably more similarities

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Speaker 1: to what they're doing because there are less factors that

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Speaker 1: is important that during these spring drills that these kickers

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Speaker 1: are being graded on every kick and every practice, and

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Speaker 1: this all does count when it comes time to make

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Speaker 1: Pat Hanlon tried to add it in there. Um and

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Speaker 1: the guys over at the website. The last few kicks

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Speaker 1: put the pressure on the kicker as he's trying to

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Speaker 1: make the last couple of kicks. And those are two

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Speaker 1: kicks I think you actually made by the way ways

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Speaker 1: right there trying to distract them. But he did do

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Speaker 1: that Pat Tremor at the end of practice or at

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Speaker 1: So I think he's trying and that was those are

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Speaker 1: I think he's trying to figure out ways to put

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Speaker 1: some pressure on the kickers um to try to least

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Speaker 1: um imitate game situations as well as he can be

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Speaker 1: as he well know, a guy can make a million

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Speaker 1: and things get tight and you start you know, the

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Speaker 1: same thing with golfers, you get to a big tournam

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden youre slicing a poll on everything.

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Speaker 1: Same thing with kickers. So you're trying to imitate that

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Speaker 1: as best you can in practice. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: he's not. We should talk about then at the Giant side.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Smank who was in Vikings camp at one point

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Speaker 1: but never got into a regular season game. They signed

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Speaker 1: him yesterday, was not here in time for practice. What

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Speaker 1: do you see from him today? They did not do

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Speaker 1: much punting today. I don't think that question. I don't

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Speaker 1: recall them doing any punt return today. They did some

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Speaker 1: punt return yesterday, not today. Would you be surprised if

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Speaker 1: we saw a veteran field goal kicker in here before

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Speaker 1: the start of training camp. I've said all along, I

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Speaker 1: thought that they would bring a veteran in, you know,

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Speaker 1: for camp, not now for camp. I'm starting to lean

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Speaker 1: towards your opinion on that there's not the want with competition, John,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Competition is good. Um. In fact, Mike

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Speaker 1: Nuttent is still available as I understand, isn't. She's still

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if if they called him back. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The punting situation remember, and also a Cone is still here, yes,

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Speaker 1: UM as as a guy involved in the competition, and

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Speaker 1: as far as the punting goes, you know, Riley Dixon

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Speaker 1: actually been UM pretty strong, Riley Dixon, big leg, he

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Speaker 1: gets good hang time on his kicks. I'd like him

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Speaker 1: to be more consistent. I would agree with that as well,

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Speaker 1: you know. Uh, and that's probably why they brought in

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Speaker 1: another guy. By the way, I was talking to somebody

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Speaker 1: that UM I trust in terms of UM football matters,

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Speaker 1: and he thinks that the new kickoff rules and I

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Speaker 1: haven't heard many people say this is going to prompt

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Speaker 1: teams to do a lot of squid kicks and mortar

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Speaker 1: kicks because you're only out to have three guys back,

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Speaker 1: and two of those guys might be blockers, So you're

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Speaker 1: not going to have the number of guys between the

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Speaker 1: thirty yard line and the ten yard line to field

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Speaker 1: squibs or mortar kicks. So you could try to course turnovers,

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Speaker 1: course fumbles, opportunities to get the ball by kicking plays

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Speaker 1: like that with the new rules only having three guys

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Speaker 1: on the other side of the thirty, thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Or he's even the other side of the forty? What's

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Speaker 1: that holding areas with between the forty? Isn't it? Is

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Speaker 1: it between the fort and I think that sounds right.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong, now you could be right. But

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Speaker 1: either way, you're looking at least twenty yards. You're looking

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Speaker 1: at at least twenty yards maybe thirty yards in that area.

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Speaker 1: We can only have three guys lined up, so it

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Speaker 1: makes it difficult. I will think about that. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was I thought it was interesting. Do you have

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Speaker 1: Feagles in tomorrow? Yes, he's not a kickoff guy. He

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Speaker 1: will know he's a special team. He knows everything about

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Speaker 1: special team. All right. Now, here's the fun thing I

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Speaker 1: wanted except returning. Oh no, actually, so we'll take your calls.

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Speaker 1: By the way, of course, A five, one three the

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Speaker 1: giants of the town Hall last night. Not a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of news coming out of that. To be honest

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Speaker 1: anything that that's really worth bringing up that we haven't

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Speaker 1: heard from people before. Um, here's the game I want

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Speaker 1: first round pick from last year, Sydney Jones off the injury.

426
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Speaker 1: And the Redskins do with Josh Norman and Scandrick who

427
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 1: are okay players. I'm telling you, I believe Anylie Apple

428
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: and we and we know how good Jenkins is. I'm

429
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: gonna go Giants and then I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

430
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: go Dallas, Philadelphia, and Washington. Those would be my foreign

431
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: order Giants. But I'm not gonna I'm not gonna cry

432
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: if you don't. I think this. I think this is

433
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: maybe the maybe the toughest one we've had. To be

434
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: honest with you, mm hmm. And I mean you don't

435
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: want because I think you Norris Jenkins is better than

436
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: anybody Dallas has, and we know that for sure because

437
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: of his track record. I'm down with that, all right,

438
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm down with that. I'll put the Giants there for you.

439
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: And you want to go Dallas to you said, and

440
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm Redskins three and Eagl's four. Yeah, and I'm and

441
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 1: And believe me, I do think that's a wide gap.

442
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think the other three teams have

443
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: very good secondary. So I think the Giants potentially could

444
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: have a dominant secondary again. All right, so let's add

445
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: this up real quick. I'm gonna all right, all right,

446
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: so let's figure this out. Um, you didn't do specials.

447
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: We can do specials if you want. Just give specials

448
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: as a generic grade the Giants. The Giants gonna be last.

449
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: That's all the stuff. There's just no way to get

450
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 1: around it. Okay, that's fine. Um, how much of an

451
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: edge do you give the Cowboys for Dan Bailey and

452
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: nave Tavon Austin as a returner now too? Um? Dan

453
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: Bailey is a machine, you know, Jona, But then frankly

454
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: both Elliott was good for Philly last year, but he's

455
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: he's young. The Redskins had a think. I think you

456
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: had a couple of different kickers. It's gonna be Dallas, Philly,

457
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: Washington Giants that. I'm done with that, alright, so do

458
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. Add it up? All right? Let

459
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Speaker 1: me let me do some quick math here. Four year Okay,

460
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: that might take a second. Alright, So I'm gonna need

461
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Speaker 1: you to write down the numbers for me, right at

462
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: least type into your computer. Oh yeah, I could do that.

463
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 1: I could do that. I could do that here, calculator.

464
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't need you to add, I just need you

465
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Speaker 1: to write, all right. I'm gonna do it in my

466
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Speaker 1: head here real quick. Alright. Alright, so the Giants I'll

467
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: do them first. Um, one point, that's five, seven and

468
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Speaker 1: a half, ten and a half, eleven and a half,

469
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: fifteen and a half eighteen and a half, twenty and

470
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Speaker 1: a half twenty three and a half points for the Giants. Alright,

471
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia four seven, eleven, fourteen seventeen, twenty one, twenty three

472
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Speaker 1: and a half, twenty four and a half, twenty seven

473
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Speaker 1: and a half, Dallas one five, seven, eight and a half,

474
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: twelve and a half, fourteen and a half, eighteen and

475
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Speaker 1: a half, twenty one and a half, twenty five and

476
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Speaker 1: a half, and then the Redskins two, three, five, six

477
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: and a half, eight and a half, nine and a half,

478
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Speaker 1: ten and a half, twelve and a half, just fourteen

479
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: and a half. So that's how we have the division

480
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: right there. The Redskin is way way below the other.

481
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: The other three teamsine right there, but look how close

482
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: the Giants, Eagles, and Cowboys are. And I think that's

483
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Speaker 1: how we both believe the division is going to go.

484
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Speaker 1: Now Again, I said to Lance the other day, I'm

485
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Speaker 1: not giving the Eagles, I'm not willing them the divisionically,

486
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: but I do think they would be the favorites. Of course,

487
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 1: the definitely Super Bowl champions, and they won what fourteen

488
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: ins last year. I would not put that in concrete.

489
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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if any of the Giants, Eagles,

490
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Speaker 1: or Cowboys won the division. None. None of the three

491
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Speaker 1: would shock me. The Redskins would shock me, none of

492
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Speaker 1: none of the others shock me too. Alright, you guys,

493
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Speaker 1: we can talk about that if you want. I'm sure

494
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: you'll be mad at Paul and I for how we

495
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: rants some of those. That's how it goes. But it's fun.

496
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Speaker 1: Two or one four five? One? Three? Uh? David Cranford,

497
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: I think Matt has been holding the longest we can

498
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Speaker 1: take him. First, Dave, how are you? I'm good, guys,

499
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: how are you? Hey? John? Just be careful when you're

500
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: not on and lances on. He makes some comments about

501
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: him having hair and you not, but we remind him

502
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: that taller than him. So I just want to know

503
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: what's going on behind you. But actually I don't remember that.

504
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: But trust me, lands just so many personal issues that

505
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 1: I don't even want to get into here that I

506
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: really don't have anything to worry. Well. I was gonna

507
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: say I don't know about that, that particular part of it,

508
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: but I do know. We we get on him for

509
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: being short of that. I do know, and trust me,

510
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: I am well aware of the fact that I am

511
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: follically challenged, So that's fine. The bottom line is we

512
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: love both of you with Paul, so that's that's the

513
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: key thing I wanted to get you guys opinion, and

514
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: and I think it's you're both perfect for this because, Um, John,

515
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: you always talked about how important running the ball is

516
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 1: and and Paul you understand the x is. And I

517
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: think when you think about the scheme for the Giants

518
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: this year, one of the coaches that UM for for

519
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: a good reason and sometimes it's kind of locked in

520
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: the shuffle ironically is Mike Shula and kind of his impact.

521
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: And I understand that, you know he's he's coming working

522
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: for an offensive head coach and and a lot of

523
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: it is Srmer scheme, but I think it's particularly when

524
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: and look at Schula in his past, I think the

525
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: one thing he could hang his hat on was being

526
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Speaker 1: able to really, you know, design and run the ball,

527
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Speaker 1: particularly in the red zone by the way. I think

528
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: he had some really creative ways to run the ball.

529
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: And I heard Um and maybe John some of your

530
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: reports that the Giants have really been in practice so far,

531
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Speaker 1: and I understand it's not pads, but running a lot

532
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: to the outside, which makes a lot of sense. So

533
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Speaker 1: I was wondering if you guys could want to just

534
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: comment what type of impacts you would think, and then

535
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Speaker 1: if the second thing, Paul, maybe you could comment just

536
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Speaker 1: on the difference between running through the tackles that you

537
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: hear a lot of people talk about as well as

538
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: getting to the outside and kind of what those two

539
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: differences are. Ye, Dave, you know what, I really, honestly

540
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: haven't noticed much of a difference in terms of running

541
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: between the tackles and running outside. Um, and hasn't. I'll

542
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: watch for the next couple of practice, not just because

543
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: you mentioned it, but I haven't really picked up on

544
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: them either doing one or the other more than then

545
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: the other. Um. The one thing that I've noticed, and

546
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: I think this is to me, what's going to separate

547
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: this system from what we saw the last four years

548
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: in the This is not nothing that we're you know,

549
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: rewriting history here. We've talked about it. You're gonna see

550
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: a lot more traditional run play action, throw down the

551
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: field stuff, which kind of goes back to what Eli

552
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: did for the first ten years or so of his career.

553
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: And I think we're gonna see a lot more of

554
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: that as from Mike Schuler's impact specifically, I think he's

555
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: gonna impact things in ways that we're not going to

556
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: be able to tell figure or see from our position

557
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: because Schermer's calling the plays. It's Schermer's offense. So Mike

558
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: Schuler is gonna be in offensive meetings. He's going to

559
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: help mold game plans, decide what plays go in each

560
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: week and each week and what what what what plays

561
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: are out. But we're not gonna have any idea what

562
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: part of that is Mike Schula. We there's no way

563
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: for us to know. So it's hard for me to

564
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: really tell you what type of impact he's gonna have

565
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: because everything that happens the same way when Pat Shermer

566
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Speaker 1: was Chip Kelly's offensive coordinator, it wasn't Pat Charmer, it

567
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: was Jim Kelly. And the same way here, it's not

568
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: gonna be Mike Sheila. It's gonna be Pat Charmer. Trust me.

569
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: Pat Charmer is not gonna sit there and say, well,

570
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: that's on the offensive coordinatorn't no, it's it's it's the

571
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: buck's gonna stop with Pat Chrember. So honestly, he's gonna

572
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: have an impact. What Mike Shila's impact is going to

573
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: be I honestly can't tell you. Yeah, I think you

574
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: know the answer to the other party a question about

575
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: inside or outside. I'm gonna be honest with you. Regardless

576
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: of what either Shula or Scharmer would prefer to do,

577
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: the ability of the guards to get out and block

578
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: on the move and to be able to come out

579
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: and pull and help come around on the edge to

580
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: get to the outside, that's gonna have more of an

581
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: impact on how many outside runs they have than the

582
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: coach's preference. I mean, if you've watched the Giants offensive

583
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: line over the last several years, to be honest, they

584
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: don't move well. They have not had guys. Even Pew,

585
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: who was was a solid guard, he was the best

586
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: mover of the group, even he was not a dominant

587
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: run blocker on the move when he had to come

588
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: out and pull guys like John Jerry and dj F

589
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: Definitely not. Definitely not so. If Hernandez proves that he

590
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: can do that at the NFL level, We've seen what

591
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: he can do in college. If he could do that

592
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: on the NFL level, you'll see more of that. And

593
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: and I believe you know, if you know anything about Ommy,

594
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: he was a better run blocker in Jacksonville that he

595
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: was a pass block not much of a move guy though,

596
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: not much of a move guy, but a better run guy.

597
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: So I think they'll probably try and see what he

598
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: can do there. My suspicion is this, if you go

599
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: just want my guests, don't hold me to it. You'll

600
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: see some of her Nandez coming out and doing some

601
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: of that, and Omama will be more straight ahead plowlett

602
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: like what Fluker used to do for this team last year.

603
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: That would be my guests. Even though I've often compared

604
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: Hernandez to Flucker, Hernandez has more athleticism, and that makes

605
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: sense having Hernandez on the left side too. If he

606
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: pulls right correct, that's what That's what I suspect that

607
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: the other side, I agree with you guys. I think

608
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: the other one is Um. You know, I think one

609
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: of the soldiers you know, strongest suits is his athleticism

610
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: and he actually for a big guy, Um with his

611
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: wingspand he can get out into space and and has

612
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: been used. He's been used on screenplays even you know,

613
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. So so he's a tackle who can

614
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: actually get out there, which again, I just think that

615
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: with all the fireworks on offense, and we'd love to

616
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: talk about um, I really think this offensive scheme comes

617
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 1: down to that. The difference between them being good and

618
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: then being um, you know, better than good, maybe even

619
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: on the level of elite, I think really comes down

620
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: to their ability to run the ball because of what

621
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: that does to the rest of the offense and makes

622
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: all the other players that much better and that much more.

623
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Speaker 1: You know, we've been so predictable. You see, you guys

624
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: remember the last couple of Dallas games that we've played.

625
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that they even went back and had

626
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 1: to study much film. They just they knew our plays

627
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: better than And yeah, I understand what you're saying. And

628
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: I would also say, again, let's see how much they

629
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: implement the tight ends and we see double tight ends

630
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: and those guys become, especially Ellison, more of the blocking package.

631
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: And I won't say this so much about Odell Beckham Jr.

632
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: But Lattimer is a physical receiver. He's a blocker who

633
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: will get involved in the run. Shepherd needs to get

634
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: better there. We know that's going to be a weakness

635
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: for him. That's he's not built for that. Let's not

636
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: kid ourselves and and and coming out of the slot.

637
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: As much as he is, that's not what he's gonna do.

638
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: By the way, they'll coming out of the slought you

639
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: didn't need somebody do need different, I know, but most

640
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: of the time they're not gonna ask him to. But

641
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: I would like to see Lattimer become more of that

642
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: David Tyreek kind of guy who, as you remember, when

643
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: Tyree would come in as an extra receiver a lot

644
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: of times, it's because he was blocked. He would block

645
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: down online. He did that a lot. He was good

646
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: at it. So hopefully Latimer can provide some of that

647
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: and that may help because you know, here's the thing

648
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: John when he says about the running game, and he's

649
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: right about that, the Giants running game has to get better,

650
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: or no matter how many explosive players they have, the

651
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: the improvement is not gonna be as much as they

652
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: needed to be. But here's the thing. When we talk

653
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: about the running game, it's can they get some of

654
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: those six seven yard chunk runs. That's what that's what

655
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: Dallas always does. Barkley, can you get Barkley could do

656
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: a lot on his own one thirty five yard run

657
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: will shift your whole rushing hand, no question, second, no question.

658
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: But you know you always hear really talk about how

659
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: many times you heard him in the locker room say,

660
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: we want to stay out of those negative people. You

661
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: want to be second and six and second and four.

662
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: We don't want to be in second and twelve. And

663
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: and even if you if you want to run on

664
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: first down, we'll guess what. A one yard run on

665
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: first down doesn't really mean a whole lot of beans,

666
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: because now second and nine, what have you done? You

667
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 1: might as well thrown in a complete bass. So you know,

668
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: get me four yards, get me five yards, And that's

669
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: why it's down run. And this is one of the

670
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: things we talked about with say Kwon Barkley is in

671
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: the NFL, he's gonna have to learn to just okay,

672
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: I got three yards up the middle. It was dirty,

673
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of room there, but I got

674
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: what was there. And second and seven is fine. If

675
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: you're in second and seven, that's a fine down and distance.

676
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: You're okay. You can run it again, you can pass it,

677
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: you can use play action. There's a lot of different

678
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: things you can do. But if you dance and you bounce,

679
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: and you get you know, caught for a one yard

680
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: game or a negative one or no gain. Then all

681
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, teams aren't canna respect that

682
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: play action passed on second eleven, second and ten, and

683
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: it gets trickier. And I do think back to the

684
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: inside outside thing real quick. I think right now, probably

685
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: Barkley is more comfortable as an outside runner then he

686
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: us an inside runner. That's not to say he can't

687
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: do and he's not gonna become better at it, but

688
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: I think he's probably more comfortable that way. And if

689
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: I recall, and I've been watched it in a while,

690
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: I believe I saw a lot of stretch plays with

691
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook early in the year last year with the Vikings,

692
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: when I watched him on national games earlier in the year.

693
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: It does seem to vaguely remember that. Again, I have

694
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: let to look at the tape and and double check it,

695
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: but I think I remember seeing a lot of outside

696
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: runs for the Alvin Cook. So trust me, Pat Charmer

697
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: will use and this is the thing you love about

698
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: him and Betcher, both of them think of it the

699
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: same way. They're gonna look at their personnel. See what

700
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: the guys do the best, and those are the players

701
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: are gonna run. And every time you ask them questions,

702
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: both guys, that's how they answer. They it's not just

703
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: lip service. They believe that. So it's not like, oh,

704
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: well he's an inside zone coach, You're running inside zone

705
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: no matter what. No if he finds that the line

706
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: blocks better in the power scheme, whether or the you know,

707
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: line blocks better on a zone or in a gap

708
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: or inside outside whatever. In the running back, same deal.

709
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: They're gonna run the players that suit their guys the best,

710
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: all right, And it's really that simple. I got a

711
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: really good question for you. But I know you in

712
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: particular have been really talking a lot about Barkley's touches,

713
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: uh since they drafted him. And you heard Chris Marrow

714
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football this morning. I did not. I

715
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: saw him this morning though, wished him well with his horse. Yes, well,

716
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: well he was on Good Morning Football this morning talking

717
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: about just five and then I I put up a

718
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: poorly worded tweet which Dan Dugan pointed out and got

719
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: like fifty likes because I left out a word. I'll

720
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: read it too. It's actually pretty funny. Um, but what

721
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: Chris Mara said is that Pat Schremer is foaming at

722
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: the mouth to get Sae Kwon Barkley to thirty touches

723
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: a game right off the bat. Well, he didn't say,

724
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: but that that's what the quote was, which I thought

725
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: was that's a lot, which is why I tweeted that statement. Out.

726
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: Of course, what I tweeted is that Chris Marazon, good

727
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: Morning Football. He just said Pat Shermer is folming at

728
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: the mouth to get him the ball thirty times a game.

729
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: Dugan retweeted it said, I unless it was a good

730
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: idea to get Chris Marrow, which was actually pretty funny,

731
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's got enough speed. But I

732
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: obviously meant Kwon Barkley and it was funny. It was funny. Um,

733
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: so what do you figure like eighteen rushes? Like six

734
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: to seven targets something like that is what you're looking at,

735
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, to get the numbers up there, But I

736
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: think thirties a lot more realists. But here's the problem, Okay,

737
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: part of what you talked about, with the hesitation and

738
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: with the thought to bounce it out, etcetera, etcetera. That

739
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: whole concept a lot of that comes because the running

740
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: back does not have the belief, to confidence and the

741
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: faith in his offensive line doing what the play is

742
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: designed to do, or frankly, they're just not doing the

743
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: job and he sees no space. What are the case

744
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: might be? Okay, Now, given that, how many times does

745
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: Barkley run the ball during the preseason, because that's the

746
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: only way to develop. I think you trust between the

747
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: back and the line. I'm not saving rookies. I'm sorry,

748
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: you're a rookie. I'm not saving you touches in the preseason.

749
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: You're twenty one years old, You're in the best shape

750
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: of your life to rushes? Do you give Barkley in

751
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: the preseason? You give him however many he needs. Okay, Like,

752
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: would it bother me if he got thirty carries over

753
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: the four preseason games. I was just gonna I was

754
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: just gonna say, with thirty five. For me, he's like

755
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: a decent over under. I think in thirty five carries

756
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: he might be able to get enough of a feel

757
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: for what he needs. Here's the question. But I'll be honest,

758
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: I see ten carries at the end of the preseason.

759
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit I wasn't like that. I agree.

760
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: I think you need at least one game where he

761
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: gets individually ten carries. I would like to see that. Um.

762
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: The question is, I don't know how Pat Chrmer is

763
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: gonna handle the fourth preseason game, because that could be

764
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: where Barkley doesn't play. For all I know, I don't

765
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: know how he's gonna handle that. I would have to

766
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: go back to see how he handled fourth preseason games

767
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: with the Browns. I gotta be honest, I haven't done that,

768
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: and who says he'll do it the same way anyway?

769
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: So let me put it this way. I think he

770
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: will average. What if he averages nine carries a game, well,

771
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: that's thirty six, not if he doesn't play the fourth game.

772
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: That's why I'm giving you the average of carries per game.

773
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: See what if what if he carries it anywhere from

774
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: eight to twelve in each game? And I think I

775
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: think that's fine. Twelve might be a little much as average.

776
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, if he has one game where

777
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: he carries that, I will tell you this, and I've

778
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: said this also on the show. I don't know if

779
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: it was with you or not. I believe of all

780
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: the starters that the Giants expect to have during the

781
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: course of of the preseason. The offensive lineman need to

782
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: play the most snaps. I was about to say the

783
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: same exact thing. And for me, Barkley is only going

784
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: to be in the game when that first team offensive

785
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: line is in the game. I agree with how about that.

786
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that too. And here's the thing, okay, bro, Bro,

787
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: here's the thing, and this is why it's it's such

788
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: a tough balance here in the NFL these days. And

789
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: folks will get back to your calls in a second.

790
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: We've gotten on a tangent. I apologize, Um, what is

791
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: this good stuff? I know what is good stuff? Um,

792
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: you can't tackle or really hit or block a lot

793
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: in practice anymore. We've been through this a million times.

794
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: Even what's the limit on number of pad to practice

795
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: during training camp? Like six, eight, whatever, whatever it is,

796
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: It's not a lot. So you actually need preseason reps

797
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: for the players that have to play with contact and

798
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: do what else. You can't even do a practice at

799
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: all that you need to practice in the regular in

800
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: preseason games. Tackling, m tackling you can't tackle in practice. Well,

801
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: I guess he can, But nobody does because you don't

802
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: want guys to get hurt. Well, you could the big

803
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: round donut and the dummies you could tackle. I think

804
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: the donuts out. I haven't seen that donut yet. I

805
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. Well, you know what, though, maybe

806
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: they're just not practicing that during exactly. Do you actually

807
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: do need reps? I think, especially for the younger guys

808
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: to work on tackle. I mean I think you do.

809
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: Especially with the new rule, with the no head thing,

810
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: I think I think you're gonna have to get some

811
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: reps for these guys. And I look fans, and I

812
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: know you don't want to go to pre season games.

813
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: I get it. They're boring. You don't want to watch him.

814
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: You don't care some people, but not to me. You're

815
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: not normal. No I'm not. But I really think in

816
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: this day and agent actually is a little important. So

817
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: it's tough. I mean, look that that's why these September

818
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 1: football games sometimes are frankly a little rough on the eyes.

819
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: It takes these teams a few weeks to get rolling

820
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know that? No question? Alright, two

821
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: O four five one three. Let's go back to the

822
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: busy phones and say what's up, so as I find

823
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: the call sheet the Scott New Mexico. What's up Scott?

824
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: How are you buddy? Hi guys, what are you doing

825
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: doing well? What's up Scott? Uh? First, I wanted to uh.

826
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Speaker 1: I wish Dave gentleman all the best, and I hope

827
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: that his treatments go well and that will make a

828
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: speedy recovery many times over. Yeah, I was on the

829
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: show yesterday. I'm sure Paul and Land sent their best

830
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: wishes out. I want to do the same. He's he's

831
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: a really good dude. I love Dave Um. It's always

832
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: said and and and rough to hear. But as John

833
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: Marras said, uh the other day and in a statement

834
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: that you know, they hope that you know, the prognosis

835
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: as good. Davis positive and everyone's hoping that he gets

836
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: well and gets back to work sooner. We're all praying

837
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: for him. Very very likable man. Yes. Uh. Secondly, I

838
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: wanted to apologize to you, John. I was on Friday's

839
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: broadcast and didn't realize it, but you were trying to

840
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: make a point and I sort of talked over you.

841
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: You were trying to answer me. I didn't realize it

842
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: until I saw a broadcast later, but I wanted to apologize.

843
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate that not a problem. My questions are basically

844
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: about the offensive line. I lived in San Diego for

845
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: a while, and I have a lot of faith in

846
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: health Hunter because I saw what he put together in

847
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: San Diego, and it's sort of is mirroring what they're

848
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: doing here a little bit. Paul, I don't know if

849
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: you remember, but they had Chris Dielman and Nick Hardwick

850
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: and Jeremy Clary and Marcus McNeil, really good solid offensive line,

851
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: and they also had Ladany and Thomas and and the

852
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: reason I'm bringing it up, do you think this to

853
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: take advantage of Sequon Barclay's talent. Do you think there'll

854
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: be more of a zone block or do you think

855
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: there'll be a malling type of offensive wine Remember Scharmer,

856
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: just real quick before Paul goes. Charmer ran mostly his

857
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: own scheme when he was in Minnesota. He did I think,

858
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: I think, to be perfectly frank with you, they don't

859
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: know yet. I mean, if you, if you really want

860
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: to pin me down for an answer, I don't think

861
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: they know yet because you don't have enough of a

862
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: body of evidence, and you may not really have one

863
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: until what late August, I mean until these preseason games

864
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: are underway and you see how these guys execute against

865
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: the opposition, you know you're not gonna really know. And

866
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: because these coaches have all said that they're gonna go

867
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: with what their guys do best, well, it really is

868
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: a fact finding mission. You can't blame them. Do you

869
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: know what kind of scheme Jackson all rand last year?

870
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: They have more of a gap m of his own

871
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: jack Jackson wearing out of power. That's what I thought too.

872
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: And I think between Hernandez and omm A, uh the center,

873
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: not the biggest guys in the world, Halipe or Red Jones,

874
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they're going to be more of

875
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: his own little bit absolutely, but you know, if you

876
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: think Flowers is probably a guy that's better running power

877
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: than he is running a question, and I think Solder

878
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: could probably do both, So it's got I think that's

879
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: a great question. But I'm with Paul. I think it's

880
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: a wait and see, okay, and Uh. Lest comment I

881
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: have is I heard a rumor and I don't know

882
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: if it's true that Tex Schermer reached out to Tiki Barber,

883
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: and I was wondering if bringing him into help consult

884
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: I guess was Squan Barkley would be he had an

885
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: advantage for the Giants. I don't know if if Barber

886
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: was asked to be a consultant, but I did see

887
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: an item in one of the newspaper articles that Tiki

888
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: had expressed, uh, um, what's the word I'm looking for?

889
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: He was delighted to hear that Shermer wants to welcome

890
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: him to be around more and to be more of

891
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: a pression. I didn't hear that. I did see that,

892
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: but I did not I did not know the extent

893
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: of their conversation as to whether or not it's too

894
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: help give tips to Barkley, or if it was just

895
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: to you know, hey, you're one of the greats and

896
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: legends of the team. Wanted to just stop by and

897
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, give give a presence here. I don't know

898
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: the extent of what that conversation was like, and Scott,

899
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: I think Paul's exactly right. Look, Tiki brought his issues

900
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: on himself by saying things he shouldn't have said. We

901
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: all get that, but that also happened a long time ago,

902
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: and I think people forget what a great, great player

903
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: he was, and great I think it would be great if, if,

904
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: if he could walk into that stadium about having people

905
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: trying to throw a ride and tear him them from

906
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: glim you know what I mean. We've talked about how

907
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: Barkley could wind up being a ticky barber by the

908
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: time his career is over, might even eclipse all of

909
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: his numbers. So look, I'd love to see it. I

910
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: quite frankly would love to see Barkley look at some

911
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: of Barbera's old tape and if you can mimic some

912
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I know you want to be your

913
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: own guy, but go for it, because this man was

914
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: an incredible offensive force. But I appreciate you guys who

915
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: just wanted to hear your philosophy than just got thank

916
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: you appreciate it. And look, here's the thing, and I

917
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: think Paul really did hit it on the head. I

918
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: think I broke my marker here, unfortunately, Yeah, I think

919
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: I did. I was playing with the clicker too much

920
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: and now I won't click back in not good. Now

921
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: you gotta chuck it. Yeah, I gotta chuck. That's gonna

922
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: wind up on somebody's clothes. It's probably mine. Too. Um.

923
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: And here's the thing I brought up Barber stats and Paul,

924
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: these are the type of numbers we're talking about for

925
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: Barkley and Tiki's God, I won't even go to his

926
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: best year, but just in some of his years where

927
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't quite as good, which is amazing because there's

928
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: still unbelievable years. Um. In two thousand and two or

929
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: two thousand, this was in his fourth year in the

930
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: league when he finally started to get going a little bit. Um,

931
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: he had seventy catches for seven dred nineteen yards, two

932
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: hundred thirteen carries for a thousand yards. Well, that was

933
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: the thunder and lightning year. They went to the Super

934
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: Bowl with Ron Dane and Antiki. Look, Tiki's a borderline

935
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I think he should be it. He

936
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 1: really is. I think he's honestly line. He's right the edge.

937
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: And here's what bothers me. And I know people who

938
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: get upset, and I've actually battled I think this is

939
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: better now. I think we've I think I've battled Steeler

940
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: fans online about this too. You know, Joan Bettis is

941
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: in if I'm taking a running back to have their

942
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: entire career on my team, I want take Barb over

943
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: Joan Bettis. I think he's a better player. See the

944
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: things that will hurt Tikis early in his career and

945
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: was a very very big deal longevity heard him because

946
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: he retired at least a year or two too early.

947
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: Last year, he had sixteen hundred rushing yards, four hundred

948
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: sixty receiving yards in seven total yards. That is a

949
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: ridiculous season. And then the other thing is if you

950
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: recall the first three years of his career, he did

951
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: not get a ton of production because he was a

952
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: part time player. It wasn't even a chance. So in

953
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: some regard, I don't want to say those were wasted years,

954
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 1: because maybe if he had carried and touched the ball more,

955
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: maybe he wouldn't have lasted as long as he did.

956
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: But I don't want to hold that against him. But

957
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: I do think retiring early in the fumbal itis are

958
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: two things. It really kind of kind of get people,

959
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: you know, scirming a bit, dude. Fifteen thousand total yards,

960
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: ten thousand rushing yards, five thousand receiving yards. He had

961
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: three consecutive years to close his career. We had more

962
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: than two thousand total yards in a season in two

963
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: thousand and two. In ninety four, uh total yards in

964
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: that year and five straight thousand yards. Take that back,

965
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: five straight twelve hundred plus yards rushing years to end

966
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: his career. And he also had five straight years of

967
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: fifty catches. Actually, let me go back one to three, four, five, six, seven,

968
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: eight straight years of fifty catchers or more. I mean,

969
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: he was really, really good. And I think this is

970
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: a really good template for how you want Sae Kwon

971
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: Barkley to play an impact your team. Now you hope

972
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: maybe he does on a higher level, but or sooner, sure,

973
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: of course, But I think that's the type of running

974
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: back you're looking at. The kauflin years with Tiki Barber

975
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: were as dominant as anybody. He was Marshall Falk when

976
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: he was playing here under conflict numbers weren't that much different,

977
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: you know. And and that's why I think a lot

978
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: of people got sour because when when Tiki had some

979
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: critical remarks to make about Tom, you know, make his

980
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: scirm a little bit, because it's like, wait a minute,

981
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: this guy helped you become who you are. When Tom

982
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: got here, you became legitimately in the Hall of Fame conversation,

983
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: and now you're gonna make critical remarks, so you know

984
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: they made me squirm too. I wasn't necessarily thrilled with

985
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: some of the things he said, but I would never

986
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: never take anything away from his performance as a player.

987
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: Like I said, he brought that stuff on himself also,

988
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: but on the field he was terrific. And the second

989
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: round draft pick, I might add, not a bad pick,

990
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: Ernie Kay, I wasn't sure if it was. That was

991
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: what his first second year, Arnie, that must come far

992
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: into it. What was ARNI first year doing the draft? Uh,

993
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: ninety seven was George's last year that I was at George?

994
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: Think that that's what Tiki got drafted? My goodness, it's

995
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: maybe that was a George pick. Yeah, knowing how to

996
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 1: be then because George George's last season was the ninety

997
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: seven season Fossil won the division. Did he stick around

998
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: for the draft, Well, he was out by the time

999
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: they drafted in the next year, So the eight was

1000
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: nis first dive. So he did draft Tiki then in

1001
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: the second round. Yes he did that, Yes he did.

1002
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: You got to think that in context sometimes, Well, that's

1003
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: why I asked you. I don't remember. That's why I

1004
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: talked it through. I think at least you had a

1005
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: shot at it. I had no shot talking it through

1006
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: talking through five on three. Alex is down in Florida.

1007
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: He's up next, ye Alex. Hey, good morning, guys. What's up?

1008
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call. Yeah. I just wanted to

1009
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: actually say, it's great that you guys were talking about

1010
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: Tiki Barber. I grew up watching him in Plexico and

1011
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: you I do their thing and win those in the

1012
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: super Bowls, and it was unfortunate that Tiki actually retired

1013
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: the year before they went to the super Bowl. So

1014
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Yeah, and look at people

1015
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: will make it out at all, well they want to

1016
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: one of Tiki was still there. I think that's I

1017
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: think that's a little bit of nonsense, to be honestly.

1018
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: I think you have a better argument with Shocky maybe

1019
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: causing some stuff with Lie, But I don't think if

1020
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: Tikes in that in that locker room and playing running back,

1021
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: it has any effect on that seven team. I will

1022
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: say this, I'm glad that Barbara at least got to

1023
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: play in one. I know the two thousand season, you know,

1024
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: ended with with a rough loss, to the Ravens in

1025
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But you know that thunder and lightning combination.

1026
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: Let's not forget forty one nothing against the Vikings a

1027
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: giant stadium in the NFC Championship game when Carrie Collins

1028
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: was off the charts. Great and the game with the Vikings.

1029
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: But what but what Tiki did that season? You know,

1030
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: in combination with Dane, that was a fun team. It

1031
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: really was. And those guys don't get enough pop. They

1032
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: don't get enough credit. I don't I don't think. I

1033
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: don't think they get enough props. I just don't that

1034
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: that two thousand Giants team, that was a fun team.

1035
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely fun to watch. And so I'll keep

1036
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: the ball rolling here. You guys did a great job

1037
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: talking about Barkley and the running game. But as a

1038
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: receiver myself growing up playing high school ball and middle

1039
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: school ball, UM, I wanted to know how Barkley split

1040
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: out wide might affect a defensive scheme and how teams

1041
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: might have to prepare against him. Um, and that kind

1042
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: of a light And also, UM, do you think say

1043
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: Kuan will be more effective for us in the running

1044
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: game versus the passing game, or does that affect. Does

1045
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: that really rely on the offensive line in their job?

1046
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: There can I answer both? Mean? I know, I mean

1047
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: I think the answer is both. I mean I think

1048
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be effective in both. I

1049
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: think it's a really good question. I mean, he's gonna

1050
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: get more touches in the running game than he does

1051
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: in the passing games. If you just looking at total yards,

1052
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: he's going to be more effective as a runner. But

1053
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: I think he's a more potent weapon that can affect

1054
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: the game as a receiver. Uh. To me, I think

1055
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: you'll impact the game more as a receiver. And I

1056
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: think by splitting them out wide, it's gonna make teams very,

1057
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: very hesitant, not that they aren't already with Beckham and

1058
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 1: Sheppard and Ingram already on the field, but it's gonna

1059
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: be really hard to play man to man because if

1060
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: you're in a man to man cover one dfense and

1061
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: you rotate Barkley and motion him out of that backfield

1062
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: at wide and a linebacker has to follow him, it's over.

1063
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: I mean it's over. The guy doesn't have a chance

1064
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: at hell. So I think it's going to really limit

1065
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: what defenses can do by having him as somebody can

1066
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: line up outside. You said the page. Yous do that

1067
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: with Gronkowski all the time, where if their teams are

1068
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: a man with a safety or a linebacker, and they

1069
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: just attack that guy again and again and again, and

1070
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: it probably it makes it really difficult. And I forgot.

1071
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: I forgot what the second question was that I probably

1072
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: didn't answer. No, you him want answer you. Yeah, in

1073
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: one answer, you kind of did, because it's gonna be nasty.

1074
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, here's the thing they tell you

1075
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: all the time, defensive players, what's their first thing, Read

1076
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: your keys. That's the first thing they tell them, read

1077
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: your keys. Well, now guess what giants come out of

1078
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: the huddle. Defense is standing there and they're like, okay,

1079
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm reading my keys. Well what what what are the hints?

1080
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: Are they running the ball? Are they passing the ball?

1081
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: Ingram could block. We found out that he's more than

1082
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: willing to block as a tight end, or he could

1083
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: wind up being a receiver Blockley could very easily wind

1084
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: up being a receiving target instead of a running back

1085
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: on a given play. I mean, those two guys are

1086
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: going to create a lot of confusion for defensive players

1087
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: who are heavily relying on their keys because if they

1088
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: guess wrong, all of a sudden, somebody's gonna be wide

1089
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: open or find a running lane as big as the

1090
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: Grand Canyon, and it's going to be a big play

1091
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: for the Giants. No, I completely agree with you guys

1092
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: on that. Um. You guys need some really great points.

1093
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: And the fact that today we saw you know, um

1094
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: Barkley given a little bit of trouble to linebacker. Um.

1095
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: You know, I think that's a that's a great indication

1096
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: of possibly what he can do as a receiver to

1097
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: kind of shake up the mix. Um. But obviously he

1098
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: has a running back first. You know, he proved that

1099
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: a Penn State Sure, definitely looking forward to seeing him play.

1100
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: I appreciate it thanks to the call let me throw

1101
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: back the clock a little bit, John. Some of what

1102
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna see with Barkley is what the Giants did

1103
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: with David Meghat in the eighties. Megat was the Giants

1104
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: throw down back. He was a scat back, and you

1105
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: know what, he ran the ball more than most people

1106
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: thought and he was very effective. His yards per carry

1107
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: was terrific because he was a matchup nightmare coming out

1108
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: of the backfield, and there were times he would go

1109
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 1: in motion or he'd got to go to the slaughter.

1110
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 1: He'd even go out wide and become a receiver, although

1111
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: he did most of his work as as coming out

1112
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: of the backfield to catch passes. Similar type of philosophy

1113
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: though in terms of the multiple ways you can use

1114
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: him to create matchup nightmares. And that's the beauty of it,

1115
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: because there'd be times the defenses saw Megan in there

1116
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: on third down and they're like, for sure, Okay, he's

1117
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: gonna wiggle out of the backfield, or he's gonna stay

1118
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: in on pass per injection, and all of a sudden

1119
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: they're running the ball and he's got a gaping hole

1120
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: in front of him for eight yards. I mean, that's

1121
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that happens. You could screw up

1122
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: a defense his keys with that kind of player. That's

1123
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: what Barkley can do to one four or five on three.

1124
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: And I have a couple of tweets I want to

1125
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: get to as well, Paul, but for now, let's go

1126
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: to Duke and Queen's He's up next? Hi, Duke, Guys,

1127
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: what's going on? Man? What's up? Many? John? I missed you? John? Advanced.

1128
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: He's so quick to pull the trigger on some of

1129
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: these callers. It's killing me. But I got I got

1130
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: three questions. Hopefully, hopefully we can get all of them

1131
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: all right, rapid fire. Let's go first. First off, I

1132
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about some of the contracts that were

1133
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: auditioned out, um, that we already dished out and are

1134
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: going through the shout. We're we're spending a lot of

1135
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: money on guys, and I wanted to know who is

1136
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: the first, uh maybe star that we lose because of

1137
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: a contract deal or do you think we even lose

1138
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: the start? Well, I mean guys that are the guys

1139
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: that aren't gonna be under contract the next couple of years.

1140
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: You mean, because I think right now, but Capris active, um,

1141
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: they'll have the flexibility to resign anybody that they desire

1142
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: moving forward. And I think that's why you didn't see

1143
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: them give big contracts to Justin Pugh, Why you didn't

1144
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: see them give a big contract to Weston ridge Burg,

1145
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: Why you didn't see them keep Domini Rodgers, Comarty, why

1146
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: you let go of Brandon Marshall. It's because they're trying

1147
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: to set themselves up in a couple of years, so

1148
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: you can read main retain Odell Beckham Jr. Retain landon

1149
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: Collins and there are ways to do that. And I

1150
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: think they took the punishment this year with some of

1151
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: those guys not bringing the back, so they can have

1152
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: that flexibility later on. Okay, okay, that's sound. My second

1153
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: question is this, UM. I read somewhere I think was

1154
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: LFL dot com or maybe sports then I'm not sure

1155
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: which which place it was, but they said how Eli

1156
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: is one of the only non quarterbacks that's more important

1157
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: than his quarterback, and I wanted to know if you

1158
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: guys agreed with that. Wait, who but Eli is a quarterback.

1159
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm confused. I'm sorry. I'll Beckham absolutely that, UM. In

1160
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: terms of importance to a team, Yeah, I mean, if

1161
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna take one player off a roster, I mean

1162
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: I think I'll throw some of the guys out there.

1163
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: I think Ezekiel Ellid and Dallas is one of those guys.

1164
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: I think Odell Beckham with the Giants, UM, let me

1165
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: think of other teams real quick, just all the time

1166
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: you fast. Yes. For some reason, I feel like with

1167
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: with with with Brown and Roethlisberger, I think they would

1168
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: figure out a way to survive. Um, the Patriots always

1169
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: figure out a way to survive, so I can't go

1170
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: there for them. Um, you know what, Yeah, I think

1171
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: that's probably a fair assessment in terms of importance to

1172
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: the team. A few guys you could think about and

1173
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: and but God, but is that a good thing. Shouldn't

1174
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: we find a way to fix that? Since that's like

1175
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: a common consensus? Well that the case. That's why they drafted,

1176
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: say Kawan Barkley. Yeah, because they now have what they

1177
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: believe to be a second mega impact player. Now we

1178
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: we even seen that yet, which is why we're still

1179
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 1: categorizing Odell that way. But that's why you have Ingram,

1180
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: That's why you have Shephard, that's why you have Darkly.

1181
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: So if you lose Um Beckham, you're not totally screwed,

1182
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, I mean, that's that's

1183
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: what the hope is. We just haven't seen it yet. Okay.

1184
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: And my third question is this, Um, I think it

1185
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: was pff. I'm pretty sure it was. They had Evan

1186
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: Ingram rated really low amongst that year as rookies. Uh,

1187
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: And I wanted to know, do you guys agree? Did

1188
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: you hear about this and what are your thoughts? And

1189
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: that I did not see the list. Do you know

1190
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: how what the criteria for the list was. Yeah, I

1191
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: think it was just overall stats, just overall stats and

1192
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: overall the reasons. One of the reasons they had him

1193
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: low is because they said he wasn't a great UH blocker.

1194
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: That's fair, yeah, yeah, but they have really low I

1195
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: think out of like out of like all the top

1196
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: rookies that year. I think he was like or something

1197
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: like that, something really crazy. Again, I I would have

1198
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: to see the list for me to for me to

1199
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: comment on it. I don't want to, you know, kind

1200
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: of just throw it on the bus and and and

1201
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: and and not they comment on without seeing it, So

1202
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: I would I would have to and I appreciate the call,

1203
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: thanks a lot. I would have to go through that

1204
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: list and and and take a look at who's ahead

1205
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: of him. Um. And it's hard for one that I

1206
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: have no idea what the criteria would have been. So

1207
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: for me, it's it's not something that I'm gonna go

1208
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: into other than to just say this simply based on statistics, Okay,

1209
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: if you want to simply base it on statistics. Evan

1210
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: Ingram last year amongst the rookie class, was third in

1211
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: in UH and UM receive what's the third and what?

1212
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: He was third in receptions with sixty four, by the way,

1213
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: more than any other tight end or wide receiver, because

1214
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: the top guys are McCaffrey and Kamar. Correct amongst rookies

1215
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: and receiving yards, he was fair behind Smith, Schuster, Cup Kamara,

1216
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: Cole Ingram was fifth. Keenan seven yards in receiving yards

1217
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: among rookies. UH touchdown catches among rookies second. Every Negrooms

1218
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: was tied for second with O. J. Howard, behind Smith Schuster.

1219
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: I mean, so if you just strictly talking stats, I

1220
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: don't understand how you could put him anywhere outside even

1221
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: the top five, if you include the running backs and

1222
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: everybody else in terms of rookie production. I I don't

1223
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: see how you could do that if you just look

1224
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: at purely it's stats, which of course I don't like

1225
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: to do. But his numbers were more than impressive. Okay,

1226
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: a couple of tweets here, Billy Warnock thinks he would

1227
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: feel better about giving you touches a game rather think

1228
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: Chris Mara that you can get the bull over the

1229
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: goal line. With your walking, in your energy. Uh, you

1230
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: know what, I've got a little more fire in my belly,

1231
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: I think, you know, and I and my frames a

1232
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: little bit bigger, so I might be able to, you know,

1233
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: do a few things in between the tackles um. A

1234
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: couple people who did confirm that where was the story

1235
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: where they confirmed that that Shermer had asked Tikey back

1236
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: to do stuff? I totally missed that. I'm just curious

1237
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: how I missed. I wish I could tell you where

1238
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: it was might have been. I don't know. Was that

1239
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: the Post or the newsday somebody had had quoted Tiki

1240
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: has saying he was very happy and pleased to to

1241
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: get Sherman to reach out and to hear from him,

1242
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: and and he'd like him to be more of a presence. Again.

1243
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: I want to make it clear, folks, I don't know

1244
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: the extent of that conversation or how much uh he's expected,

1245
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: or if he's going to give tips and hints. I

1246
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: don't know that. A couple other Bill Norris excited to

1247
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: see what Hernana has played this year, how's he's doing it?

1248
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: Ot s and how's uh the offensive line doing and

1249
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: what's our assessment and Bill the reason we don't talk

1250
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: about him much it because there's no pads and there's

1251
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: no contact, so and real hard to talk about. The

1252
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: quicker people figure that out that the better off everyone's

1253
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: gonna be because you just really can't. You can't. You

1254
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: can't figure it, to be honest with you. Um A J. Marshall.

1255
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: Thus far, heading into his third season, darry And Thompson

1256
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: hasn't lived up to his play coming out of college. Um.

1257
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: Injuries and tackling? Is that why? Yes? Yeah, I think,

1258
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I think yes, I think I think you're right.

1259
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: We're supposed to answer that one. Well, I mean, if

1260
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: it is there another issue with this play that you

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Speaker 1: have besides injuries and tackling. I mean I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: that tunnel places on the ball in coverage, which which

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Speaker 1: which was supposed to be his strength. Yeah, well you know,

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Speaker 1: let's see more anybody else. Yeah, this is this was

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Speaker 1: a tough one and I'm not sure I'm gonna build

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Speaker 1: answer And now, um hey, John, I've been listening to past.

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Speaker 1: This is from n Y G. Tim, I've been listening

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Speaker 1: for the past few weeks. Don't believe you've revealed who

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Speaker 1: your dark horse is to make the roster. Also, can

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Speaker 1: you tell us you're eleven man starters for offense and defense? Um,

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Speaker 1: why don't you give your dark horse real quick and wine?

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Speaker 1: Then I'll quickly give mine if I can find one

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Speaker 1: real fast. Well, my my dark horse was Gates, the

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman from Nebraska. Um. You know, I I think

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Speaker 1: of the because when I say dark horse, I mean

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Speaker 1: undrafted rookie, free agent. And and you know, I think

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Speaker 1: there were some other guys who have you know, come

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Speaker 1: up bag here in the spring. We have done some

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Speaker 1: nice things. Chandler the safety has done some nice things.

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Speaker 1: I know. Grant Haley, I think that would be he

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Speaker 1: has done some nice things. I understand that too. But

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Speaker 1: for me, I'm you know, I'm looking at Nick Gates

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Speaker 1: and I don't I don't expect him to obviously to

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Speaker 1: be a starter, but I wouldn't be shocked if Nick

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Speaker 1: Gates winds up winning a job on the fifty three.

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Speaker 1: But I definitely believe he's a practice squad guy. How

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Speaker 1: Appia wouldn't be the dark horse, right? Well, No, he's

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Speaker 1: been around. I'm gonna give it you guys in I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you Grant Haley like you mentioned, Um, I

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Speaker 1: like him. Here's another guy that I think is a

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Speaker 1: real dark horse, and I think you'll give me this one.

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Speaker 1: Say Josh Banks, He's done some nice things. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go Josh Banks. Position. It's a thin position. What does

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Speaker 1: bet your like out of his defensive linemen? Guys that

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Speaker 1: are quick, fast and penetrate up the field. Exactly what

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Speaker 1: Josh Banks, He's a defensive tackle by the way, folks, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean what do you have you know, with Tomlinson's

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Speaker 1: proven and you know that Snacks has proven. Hill, Well,

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Speaker 1: hell's a draft pick, but he's unproven. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: know he's gonna be on the fifty three, but he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to earn his raps. I'm gonna go Josh Banks,

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Speaker 1: says my other sleeper, and Robert Thomas is back. But

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Speaker 1: we don't know. I mean, you know there there's there

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Speaker 1: could be room there for someone to earn the spot

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Speaker 1: as the third defensive tackle. That's what I mean when

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Speaker 1: I say it's a thin spot. Well, I think it

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Speaker 1: would be fourth. I think you know, b J. Hill's

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Speaker 1: making the roster, He's making the roster, but how many

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Speaker 1: snaps is he gonna get? Let's say somebody deserves the

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Speaker 1: snaps ahead. I was on the team though, and I

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Speaker 1: think he's fairly NFL. Anyway, Thanks for joining us, folks.

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Speaker 1: Good job on the phones like you Mr Cullen for

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Speaker 1: one of the phones and run of the program for

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Speaker 1: Bolt Tino on John schmlco me and Figgles tomorrow on

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Speaker 1: giants dot com. Everybody, have a great day. Te