1 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome to a new episode of couch 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Talks on You Need Therapy Podcast. 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: My name is Kat. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: I am the host, and if you don't know what 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: couch Talks is, it is the special bonus episode of 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: You Need Therapy where I answer questions that you guys 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: send to me to Katherine at therapy podcast dot com. 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: And with that, we always like to remind you guys, 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: especially on Wednesday, that although this is a podcast hosted 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: by a therapist and we talk about therapisty things and 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: things I have to do with therapy, this podcast does 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: not serve as a replacement or a substitute for any 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: actual mental health services, and it can still be helpful 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: on whatever journey you are on, and we always hope 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: that it is helpful. So before we get into the 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: question today one, I just feel like I need to 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: say this, even though it's really not that relevant, but 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm about to go on a walk, and I just 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: think that's fun because I hear a lot of you 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: guys listen to couch Talks while you're on walks, and 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: so it's kind of like we're walking together even though 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm walking today and you're listening to this on another day. Anyway, 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: a little announcement before I get into the question. For 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: those who live in Tennessee, my practice, Three Courts Therapy 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: is expanding and has expanded, and I have recently brought 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: in two more therapists and they are taking on new clients. 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: So I'm telling you guys that because if you've been 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: on the fence about starting therapy, you can't. You don't 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: know where to look for one, you don't know who 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: you can trust for a recommendation, any of that. Now 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: is the time. I have two therapists that can take 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: on new clients. And if that is you, you can 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: message us through the website three Chords Therapy dot com, 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: or you can send an email directly to me, Katherine 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: at three Chords Therapy dot com to start that process. 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: And I just want you guys to know I one 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: will never recommend a therapist to somebody if I don't 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: think they actually can be helpful. If it's outside of 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: our scope, We're gonna direct you somewhere else. So you 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: can trust this place. You can trust reaching out to us, 41 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: and you can trust these two people that I've brought on. 42 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to have both of them their names 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: are Josie and Julia. So I didn't mean to bring 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: on two jay names, but I did, and they go 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: nicely together, and so I'm excited about both of them. 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: They both are going to bring and have already started 47 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: bringing such good energy to our office. And that's what 48 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: you really want in a therapeutic environment is to walk 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: in and just be like, ah, like I can be myself, 50 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: I can relax, I'm allowed to be scared, I can 51 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: be all the things. 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: So I'm very excited about bringing them on. 53 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: It means a lot that I even have the ability 54 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: to bring them on and help them grow and get 55 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: to where they want. 56 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: To be career wise and therapeutic wise. And I think 57 00:02:59,040 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: it's cool that I can help. 58 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: More so if that as you reach out to us, 59 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: just wanted to give that little shout. 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: Out to that part of my life. 61 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: Now let's get into today's question and reminder for everybody, 62 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: we always keep these anonymous, so you don't have to 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: worry about me reading your name or giving everybody your 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: email address out so you can send in your question. 65 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: The only information I will tell the people on this 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: podcast is the information that you give me in your question. 67 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: So here's today's question. My husband and I were fired 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: from therapy this week due to his alcoholism, which is 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: why we were in therapy. We were told upfront this 70 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: could happen if she began to suspect more work needed 71 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: to be done than was in her scope. He's refusing treatment. 72 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: I am safe, My kids are safe. He's currently in 73 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: the cycle of not drinking. He is starting personal therapy 74 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: this week. I have been in personal therapy for some time. 75 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: When is it okay for me to walk away? 76 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: Okay? 77 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: So I would bet that anybody who is an avid 78 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: listener of couch Talks can guess my first thought, and 79 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: that would be I can't necessarily answer this question for you. However, 80 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: I can still give you some things to think about 81 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: that might help you answer it or realize you've already 82 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: answered it. 83 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: So to start, there isn't. 84 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: And watch out for people who tell you that there is. 85 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: But there isn't one right or wrong time to leave 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: a marriage. It depends on every unique situation, every unique relationship. 87 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: What works for some people don't work for other people. 88 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: Some people have to squeeze the lemons, some people don't 89 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: have to do that at all, And so there's not 90 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: one answer that I can really give anybody, there is 91 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: an answer that's going to feel right to you, and 92 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: sometimes accepting that and acknowledging that there is an answer, 93 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: it might not be the answer that I really want 94 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: it to be, or I don't even want to be 95 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: in this situation, might be really where we need to 96 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: navigate in these situations. And this actually makes me think 97 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: about something that Mike Foster said in our episode from Monday. 98 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: If you haven't listened to that. 99 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: Episode, it was so good, so I highly recommend you 100 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: go back and give that a lesson. But he talked 101 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: about how at a certain point in his healing journey 102 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: he decided that I'm going to stop agreeing with my pain, 103 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: and once I stopped agreeing with my pain, I was 104 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: able to kind of acknowledge and move out of this 105 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: denial period that kept me in the pain. And that's 106 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: one of the things that might be showing up here, 107 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 1: is like some denial of what's really going on, because 108 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: it's scary. Once you acknowledge it, then I have to 109 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: do something. But the cool thing is, and it sounds 110 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: like I'm saying all this, it sounds like you've acknowledged 111 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: quite a bit because you guys are even in therapy 112 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: and you're in your own personal therapy. But I like 113 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: to say, the only way through is through. It's like 114 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: that little what is that little riddle we had as kids? 115 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: It's like, you can't go over it, you can't go 116 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: under it, you can't. I don't know how it went. 117 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: It might actually not even work with what I'm saying, 118 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: but we got to go through it. And the cool 119 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: thing is once we get through it, you're through it 120 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: and there's going to be something on the other side 121 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: that maybe you don't even know is there. I mean, 122 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: like in a good surprise kind of way. So I 123 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: say all of this because this is a very individual 124 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: situation and I want you to honor that because sometimes 125 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: when we're in these places, we want to go ask 126 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: all these other. 127 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: People, what would you do? What would you do? What 128 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: would do? What do you think? What do you think? 129 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: And what somebody else thinks might not be what you 130 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: need and what somebody else would do might not be 131 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: your right answer. It might be, but it might not 132 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: always be. So we have to always be bringing it back. Okay, 133 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: what does that feel. 134 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: Like to me? Now? 135 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: Because I don't think there is one right or wrong 136 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: answer for this. There's not something I can say easily 137 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: of like, well, if he does this, or if he 138 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: does this, or if you think this. What I would 139 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: be interested in here is asking yourself the question what 140 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: is keeping me in this? Because so often we look 141 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: at reasons to leave as well reasons to leave, but 142 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: I think a lot of our reasons to stay can 143 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: give us actually a reason to leave. For example, if 144 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm staying because I don't want to hurt my partner feelings, well, 145 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: I personally don't know if I would want to be 146 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: somebody who's with me just because they don't want hurt 147 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: my feelings. I'm not everybody, but if I acknowledge that, 148 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: like that's why I'm staying in this, it might really 149 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: wake up a party of you that's like, wait a second, 150 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing all of this for this, and I might 151 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: encourage you in one way or the other. If you're 152 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: staying because I don't think my kids would like it 153 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: if I left my husband or I left their father, 154 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: well it also might not be the best interest. 155 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: For the kids for you to stay in a marriage. 156 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: If you're not happy and you don't feel emotionally safe 157 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: and you're sacrificing a big part of you who you are. 158 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: And also if I'm staying because I'm worried this person 159 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: won't be okay without me, that might not be true, 160 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: but it also might enable the person to be reliant 161 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: on you. And well, I don't know, maybe you're getting 162 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: more than you think you are out of somebody being 163 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: dependent on you, and that might be a whole other 164 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: thing for you to explore. 165 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: And maybe I hear this a lot. 166 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: Like I'm afraid I won't find anything else. 167 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: I'm scared of being alone. 168 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: And if those are your reasons to stay, like if 169 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to find anything better than this, 170 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: it's one thing if you say like, oh, there can't 171 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: be anything better than this. I found this person that 172 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: fulfills these parts of a relationship I want, and I 173 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: feel so happy and loved and cared for and a da. 174 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: Da da dada. 175 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: That's not the same as well, I'm afraid this is 176 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: like as good as it's going to getting, there won't 177 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: be anything else. It's better than this. You see how 178 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: that feels different. But you can see kind of where 179 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm going with this. As the reasons we stay are 180 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: often more telling than the reasons we think we should leave. 181 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: Then I would wonder, what do you really want to 182 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: keep you in a relationship? If you got to have 183 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: the relationship you really really desire, what would you want 184 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: that answer to be? Why would you want to stay 185 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: in a relationship? And do these things add up? And 186 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: do I think I'm worthy of or capable of finding 187 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: that thing? And that might be something you explore with 188 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: your therapist, And it sounds like you, individually, this person 189 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: that with this question has a individual therapist that they 190 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: could work on that with. Now, I'm a firm believer 191 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: in trying. Most of you guys know that. I'm a 192 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: firm believer in working through conflict and tough seasons and 193 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: tough times. And I'm also a firm believer in the 194 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: idea that you cannot be in a relationship with somebody's potential. 195 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: And so I hear a lot. I'm sure we've all 196 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: heard this from a friend or a family member or 197 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: somebody the well, what if I leave them and then 198 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: they get it together and they work on all these 199 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: things and they become the person that I want them 200 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: to be, and then they offer what I want them 201 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: to offer me to somebody else, and then somebody else 202 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: gets to be happy with them, I'll be so upset 203 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: that I didn't wait or give them another chance. And 204 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: I find that question interesting because what I would offer 205 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: back is, well, what if you left and you found 206 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: somebody who treats you how you always wanted to be treated? Like? 207 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: What if you also found something on the other side that. 208 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: Felt really good? 209 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: It's just as likely as them shifting and changing. Actually 210 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: it's probably more likely. 211 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 212 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: I haven't done a research on that find the probability. 213 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: But instead of worrying about what you would miss out on, 214 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: what would you gain? Like? What could you gain from this? 215 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: And the reason I think this is important is because 216 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: we cannot control how or when other people choose to change. 217 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: We can control ourselves and only ourselves, And so we 218 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: have to come back to that of what can I 219 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: do to make my situation more desirable? What can I 220 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: do to live a life that I actually want to 221 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: be living? What can I do to shift that and 222 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: make that happen? And lastly, I'm really curious about the 223 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: person who wrote this email. This is specifically for you, 224 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: but of course this can apply to so many people listening. 225 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes I ask Patrick, my fiance, what outfit he likes 226 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: better when I'm getting dressed to go somewhere. And I've 227 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: done this with friends in the past and family members, 228 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: and I usually have one that I want him to pick. 229 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: So when I ask, I'm not really wondering what one 230 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: he likes better. I'm more so just looking for some 231 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: validation that the one I like is okay or it's good. 232 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: Now. 233 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: What I really need in that scenario is to allow 234 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: myself to trust myself. I know what I want to wear. 235 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: I just have to allow myself to know what I know. 236 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if maybe you already know what outfit 237 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: you want to wear, but you're looking for a little encouragement, 238 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: right You're scared to allow yourself to know what you know, 239 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: And I just want to give you some food for thought. 240 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: There maybe something you can explore with your therapist in 241 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: a session. Is this a lack of me knowing? Or 242 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: is this a fear of me knowing? Is this a 243 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: fear of acknowledging? Is this a lack of trust within myself? 244 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: Because sometimes in relationships, when they aren't and I don't 245 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: know much about your relationship, I barely know anything but 246 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: when there isn't a lot of trust in that relationship, 247 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: we then also lose ourselves and we lose trust in ourselves. 248 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: So maybe this is really more about you getting back 249 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: to realizing that you know more than you know, and 250 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: you're smarter than you think, and you can't trust yourself. 251 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: So that might just be something for you to chew 252 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: on with your therapist maybe dissect. So as always, I 253 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: hope this was helpful, hope it gave you something to 254 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: think about in process, And if you guys have any 255 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: more questions, you can always reach out to me Catherine 256 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: at You Need Therapy podcast dot com. And if you 257 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: were one of those people that said, Hey, I live 258 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: in Tennessee and I want to meet with one of 259 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: those therapists you hired, you can go to three Quarts 260 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: Therapy dot com. 261 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: Like I said, I will put that link in the notes. 262 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: And I hope you guys are having the day you 263 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: need to have and I will see you slash talk 264 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: to you again on Monday