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Speaker 3: Here's Matt Smith Ian. Good afternoon everyone.
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Speaker 5: alongside with Paul Prillo, We will be joined by Mike
Speaker 5: Dusaut and likely Fred Kirsch. The Patriots lose today to
Speaker 5: the Houston Texans. It's the Texans first ever win here
Speaker 5: in Fox ro Chelette Stadium. They lose by score forty
Speaker 5: one to twenty one. Paul, I have a feeling that
Speaker 5: most of the conversation will be generated not really about
Speaker 5: the outcome today, but by the player quarterback, give me
Speaker 5: an instant analysis.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 4: I would expect to see two hours of talk about
Speaker 4: the quarterback, not necessarily the game. I think there were
Speaker 4: certainly a lot of things that we feared about putting
Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback in too soon. But you also saw
Speaker 4: why people were so excited. There were enough plays to
Speaker 4: have you. You know, it's one of those if you're
Speaker 4: a if you're a hack golfer like me, Matt, and
Speaker 4: you just have that one birdie or that one shot
Speaker 4: that keeps you coming back. There were those plays today
Speaker 4: that you saw him make and you said, that's why
Speaker 4: he was the third overall pick.
Speaker 3: Reason for excitement. Okay, so he threw three touchdown passes.
Speaker 6: He did.
Speaker 5: That's on the good side of the ledger for sure.
Speaker 3: He turned it over three times, and yeah he did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so turn it over three right, So the realest
Speaker 5: in me, you know, I want to get excited to Paul,
Speaker 5: I don't want to I want to dump on I
Speaker 5: don't want to dump on everybody who's going to be
Speaker 5: happy about it today. But you can also see, and
Speaker 5: I think you just said that why people say, let's
Speaker 5: hold off because he can be careless with the football.
Speaker 3: He can be electric with the.
Speaker 5: Football, he can be careless with the football, and they
Speaker 5: need to try to learn that out of him, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's what we're talking about. And
Speaker 4: like the excitement comes from the bar where the bar
Speaker 4: is right, Like it's his first ever start, so you're
Speaker 4: you're glombing onto the accentuating the positive plays.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: The bomb to Booty was awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, at the end of the half, it's
Speaker 4: probably lit some excitement in this place that I don't
Speaker 4: know if we've seen since that last second touchdown against
Speaker 4: Buffalo last year. Like you have to go back that
Speaker 4: far right, you know, for that kind of excitement and
Speaker 4: do that. And this, I mean, this throw is just perfect.
Speaker 4: It's beautiful, and this is you know, this is a
Speaker 4: lot of things to be excited about. Obviously we're going
Speaker 4: to talk a lot about Drake May, but it's Kasehan
Speaker 4: Boody beating Derek Stingley outside and he beats them.
Speaker 3: I mean, he beats them clean.
Speaker 4: It's one on one and the whole very easy to defend,
Speaker 4: goes out the window on a play like this. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I thought there were enough of those kinds of things
Speaker 4: during the course of the day that well, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna do the good, the bad, and
Speaker 4: the injured will probably wait till Mike comes down. Sure,
Speaker 4: I didn't have Drake May on on any list today.
Speaker 5: I think that's a perfect spot to put him in.
Speaker 5: But I was in the middle.
Speaker 4: But I would say I come away personally far more
Speaker 4: enthused and excited, probably than I anticipated being there were
Speaker 4: there were enough good plays. There were more than just
Speaker 4: one or two, Like, there were enough really good plays
Speaker 4: that you can see it like he's he's got something.
Speaker 4: Now he's gonna have to harness it, because you're right
Speaker 4: about the turnovers, Matt. But yeah, I I came away
Speaker 4: pretty pretty excited about some of the things that I saw.
Speaker 5: Just one thing to point out on a touchdown to
Speaker 5: Booty to Paul and May said it as they were
Speaker 5: going into the locker room at halftime on an offensive
Speaker 5: line that I you can't even call it patchwork anymore.
Speaker 5: It's so h discombobulated. But he had a clean pot
Speaker 5: pocket on that play, one of the rare times he
Speaker 5: did in the game, and they took advantage of it,
Speaker 5: you know, which was really nice to the whole operation
Speaker 5: of that play.
Speaker 3: And that's what's gonna happen. It was a professional football play,
Speaker 3: and you're right, but that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: They're gonna see a lot of pressure because teams are
Speaker 4: gonna look at it and say that they can't protect
Speaker 4: and they're gonna come after you know, Houston. Houston really
Speaker 4: came after him in the first half and made him,
Speaker 4: made him real uncomfortable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it looked like he I thought he showed
Speaker 5: some poison spite of all that, Paul, you know, he
Speaker 5: didn't look flustered, he didn't look that one.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm not as I'm not as convinced on that.
Speaker 4: I thought there were times he kind of looked exactly
Speaker 4: the way you would expect.
Speaker 5: Here in the head you running around.
Speaker 4: I thought he, you know, like sort of missing some
Speaker 4: some up you know, not necessarily the opportunities, but like
Speaker 4: you know, kind of looking at the rush a little bit.
Speaker 4: I mean again, things that I would absolutely expect in
Speaker 4: the first first start, Like mac Jones. I remember like
Speaker 4: one of the first passes that it might have been
Speaker 4: the first pass he attempted as a pro. He threw
Speaker 4: the ball backwards, so you know, like these things happen
Speaker 4: to young, young quarterbacks. Like I said, I come away,
Speaker 4: I'm not being blind. I'm not trying to be like
Speaker 4: this is sunshine with Patriots. I'm not trying to do that.
Speaker 3: I saw the things.
Speaker 4: That people are worried about, but I saw enough things
Speaker 4: that I'm excited about that I'm accentuating those today.
Speaker 5: Okay, Mike Dusau joins us now Mike instant analysis. The
Speaker 5: Patriots lose forty one to twenty one. But as I
Speaker 5: said to Paul when we started, I don't think many
Speaker 5: people are gonna be talking about the game in this
Speaker 5: postgame show.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be reserved for the quarterback.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would. I would echo you know someone what
Speaker 8: Paul said. I think that there's the foundation of an
Speaker 8: actual NFL offense out there, or you know, at least
Speaker 8: an NFL quarterback. Some of the throws that he made,
Speaker 8: or you know, like we talked about this summer. You
Speaker 8: see the arm strength, I mean, the impressive throw on
Speaker 8: the touchdown. You know that that's encouraging. But end of
Speaker 8: the day, that the turnovers, the mistakes, the untimely plays
Speaker 8: by the defense where you know, just a weird kind
Speaker 8: of day where they're pretty stout against the run and
Speaker 8: then you know, a couple big touchdown runs really hurt them.
Speaker 8: So inconsistent on that side of the ball. I was
Speaker 8: just really frustrated by the start. In the third quarter,
Speaker 8: you felt good, you kind of ended well, it's all
Speaker 8: of a sudden, it's fourteen seven. I mean, I felt
Speaker 8: like it should have been made twenty eight to seven.
Speaker 8: But somehow you get out of that first half fourteen
Speaker 8: seven and you know, to go out, they missed the
Speaker 8: face mask boom, it's twenty one seven.
Speaker 9: Just like that.
Speaker 8: It's just it's just, you know, really really hard to
Speaker 8: overcome when you have four turnovers like that. But like
Speaker 8: I said, I think you have there's a little bit
Speaker 8: of a spark there and something that I don't know
Speaker 8: if I would have said it back in twenty twenty
Speaker 8: one with that offense, where it just felt like, even
Speaker 8: in success, sometimes it felt like this is gonna be grind.
Speaker 8: It's always got to be perfect. You know, they got
Speaker 8: a ways to go, but there's a little bit there,
Speaker 8: and I think that kid's gonna make this season you know,
Speaker 8: more exciting, more interesting to watch for sure.
Speaker 5: Okay, So Paul says he's excited, Matt says he's excited.
Speaker 5: Mike says he's excited. They're one in five. I think
Speaker 5: this is a tough spot for the coach and the
Speaker 5: coaching staff to be and because I think you're gonna
Speaker 5: see some you're gonna hear and see some general enthusiasm
Speaker 5: around this team. They lost by twenty and deservedly so,
Speaker 5: because they were careless with the football. The last when
Speaker 5: I stopped keeping track, it was nine penalties for fifty
Speaker 5: yards more sloppy football play. How do you balance the
Speaker 5: fact that your team's not good enough to do shoot
Speaker 5: yourself in the foot all the time with the fact
Speaker 5: that you might keyword might have found something in the quarterback.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you just have to accept that that
Speaker 8: it's going to take time. And I think that's what's
Speaker 8: on display. We knew that coming into the season. I
Speaker 8: think it's harder to swallow that when you're watching a
Speaker 8: veteran quarterback who isn't the rookie going out there and
Speaker 8: you know, yeah, so we're zero and one with Drake
Speaker 8: May And I think if you look at it that way,
Speaker 8: you know, I honestly I would say right now, like
Speaker 8: my bigges bigger concern is just like the defense is
Speaker 8: so up and down. You know, it just goes from
Speaker 8: you know, they can't get anything right too. Then they
Speaker 8: force a couple of punts, and you know it's just
Speaker 8: it's hard to really feel like the defense that has
Speaker 8: any kind of consistence.
Speaker 4: I thought that, yeah, because I that's a great point, Mike,
Speaker 4: because I thought they were like I wouldn't say this
Speaker 4: was a great defensive game, but they were also putting
Speaker 4: some tough spots and handled some of them, some of
Speaker 4: them reasonably well. Seventeen turnovers, you can't you you can't
Speaker 4: like sort of overlook the like the first drive like
Speaker 4: a hot knife, and you know, this is kind of
Speaker 4: becoming a little bit of a trend where the other
Speaker 4: team gets the ball to started. You know, one of
Speaker 4: Miami's best drives last week was the first drive of
Speaker 4: the game too, and they had nothing offensively. I don't
Speaker 4: think the Patriots played well defensively today, but I also
Speaker 4: think it could have been worse because of some of
Speaker 4: the spots they were put in. Now, you know, I
Speaker 4: think the Texans kind of helped out a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think Stroud.
Speaker 4: Missed an easy touchdown to to Dalton Schultz in the
Speaker 4: in the end zone and was late and uh short
Speaker 4: on the throw and that you know, caused Schultz to
Speaker 4: not catch it. He had two hands on it. It's
Speaker 4: got to catch it. He didn't, and then it pops
Speaker 4: up in the air ends up being an interception. Great play,
Speaker 4: a great awareness, good coverage by Mapu, you know, to
Speaker 4: get to scrabble back into the play in a great
Speaker 4: play by Marcus Jones. But I just thought there were
Speaker 4: too many times where okay, if they can just get
Speaker 4: a stop here and it's third and five, and it's
Speaker 4: so easy, you know, on some of those key spots
Speaker 4: third like this is what I mean. Like, I don't
Speaker 4: think they were terrible defensively today third downs, Like you know,
Speaker 4: Houston was four to eleven. It's not terrible, not terrible defense.
Speaker 8: Take it.
Speaker 3: But everyone you had to have they got right.
Speaker 5: So, Paul, I think that leads us nicely into the good,
Speaker 5: the bad, and the injured.
Speaker 2: Now it's time for the good. But the good, but
Speaker 2: the good, the bad and the injured.
Speaker 4: Ah ah, you are right guy.
Speaker 5: You want to lead it off, Paul, And I think
Speaker 5: maybe for edification for Mike when we were talking about
Speaker 5: may I think it's worth repeating where Hall said he
Speaker 5: would place Drake me on this list.
Speaker 3: I didn't have money any list.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's I mean, it's the philosophical question. I think, like,
Speaker 8: on one hand, you could say, hey, started, he threw
Speaker 8: some nice balls, he got his feet wet.
Speaker 4: But my good, my best, my best, good thing that
Speaker 4: I would put on this list, though, is going to
Speaker 4: involve him. And it's the the you know, the drive
Speaker 4: at the end of the half. And I just thought
Speaker 4: it was such a I'm gonna get all like, you know,
Speaker 4: philosophical I just thought it was such a like a
Speaker 4: contrast to what we've been talking about. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: in the Seattle in Miami situation. So they get backed
Speaker 4: up similarly, you know, I think it was the sixteen
Speaker 4: yard line, they run the ball similarly on the first play,
Speaker 4: the other team didn't take a time out. You sort
Speaker 4: of let the clock run and you're like, okay, let's get.
Speaker 3: Out of the half.
Speaker 4: Then they throw it and he throws a pass all
Speaker 4: the way across the field and it was, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of look a little dicey, you know, but he
Speaker 4: has the arm to get it there it gets out
Speaker 4: to Mario Douglas.
Speaker 3: Douglas is able to get.
Speaker 4: Up the sideline, get out of bounds, get the first down,
Speaker 4: and I just thought it stood as such a contrast
Speaker 4: to the disasters and time management at the end of
Speaker 4: the half with Brissette. Now all of a sudden, you
Speaker 4: have a drive going, you make a play and that
Speaker 4: culminates with an absolutely gorgeous forty yard touchdown from May
Speaker 4: to Booty. So that was the best thing about this
Speaker 4: game to me, was that sequence at the end of
Speaker 4: the first half.
Speaker 8: That was my best good Yeah, I I hesitate to
Speaker 8: put Kishan Booty on the actual good list, but just
Speaker 8: to maybe piggyback on yours, just to say, I just
Speaker 8: thought that was a great catch from him. I mean
Speaker 8: that that play down the field mentioned in the pregame,
Speaker 8: show his hands, something that stands out. I mean, May
Speaker 8: threw that ball. They were they were even, you know.
Speaker 8: I just I thought the way he threw that ball
Speaker 8: with anticipation, really struggling with the goods in the back
Speaker 8: like he gets by perfect.
Speaker 5: I got to catch that ball.
Speaker 3: Oh this is It's a perfect throw. Right, It's a
Speaker 3: great throw. But but I like Mike before you came down.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is like runs the gamut of
Speaker 4: the things that if you're a Patriots fan that you're
Speaker 4: really excited about, because it's not it's just Drake May
Speaker 4: coming in and doing something. It's he's throwing the ball
Speaker 4: to a second year receiver too, who beats a really
Speaker 4: good cornerback yep, yep, you know, and Derek Stingley. So
Speaker 4: I just thought, you can't if you know you want
Speaker 4: to be a dorky Patriots man, I don't think you
Speaker 4: could be excited enough about that play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you know you need more of them, get
Speaker 3: more of them.
Speaker 5: And then just so before we put Booty in the
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame, Patriots Hall of Fame, I had a
Speaker 5: second and seven play in the second quarter where he
Speaker 5: just flat out whift on a block and got it winning.
Speaker 5: The running backs killed in me.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like I said, in the back, not putting him
Speaker 8: on the not putting him on there, but just wanted to,
Speaker 8: you know, highlight it. I just I'm really struggling with
Speaker 8: the goods and the bats, because I think just about
Speaker 8: every player it's kind of like Drake was today where
Speaker 8: I can point to two or three plays that were
Speaker 8: really good. And I can point to two or three
Speaker 8: plays that were not very good, especially on the defensive
Speaker 8: side of the ball. But but I will put to
Speaker 8: Mario Douglas on the list, looking at his you know,
Speaker 8: final stats, to catch his ninety two yards thirty five
Speaker 8: yard long that that touchdown, got his first touchdown. Ye,
Speaker 8: he was an effective piece and I thought you really
Speaker 8: started to see, you know, maybe why he might have
Speaker 8: been itching to get Drake in there. He was very
Speaker 8: involved and just showed the production and the way that
Speaker 8: you know, you're hoping that this kid can contribute. So
Speaker 8: I put Douglas he is a.
Speaker 5: Threat to score every time he touches the ball, no
Speaker 5: question about it.
Speaker 3: Nothing if not consistent.
Speaker 4: So I would say, like that's what I was talking
Speaker 4: about before the game, like I want to see some
Speaker 4: of those NFL plays, those crossers, yes, you know, and
Speaker 4: unfortunately I thought may missed a few of them. The
Speaker 4: first interception was was one that I thought he overshot him.
Speaker 4: He had another one that he threw well behind. You know,
Speaker 4: there was listen, there was a little nuke l loos
Speaker 4: to that performance today.
Speaker 5: A really good comp but because he sprayed it all
Speaker 5: over the place.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but I just like those crossers to Douglas.
Speaker 4: You know, I was joking with Freddie. I was like,
Speaker 4: that's the guy that you guys have been telling me
Speaker 4: about that for two That's the first time I saw it.
Speaker 4: Like he torched that guy on the touchdown off the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. It was not even competitive. He beat
Speaker 4: him within like you know, like uncovering and getting open.
Speaker 4: He beat him within the first millisecond of the route
Speaker 4: and comes across the field and he's you know, it's
Speaker 4: a thirty five yard touchdown.
Speaker 3: That's good stuff. Is it okay?
Speaker 5: Is it okay that the boss is joining us now
Speaker 5: to break format and get some instant analysis.
Speaker 3: From fred No, he gets he jumps in with the
Speaker 3: good okay, then jump in.
Speaker 10: Can you imagine what this kid's going to be like
Speaker 10: when he has an adequate front line in front of
Speaker 10: him and a couple of weapons.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 10: I'm excited. I'm excited. Put him on the good list.
Speaker 10: First game against this defense with this support cast. Put
Speaker 10: him on the good list.
Speaker 5: I think Paul and I had him on no list.
Speaker 3: I didn't have many We didn't have him the good list.
Speaker 3: We didn't have the bad list. You, guys, I have
Speaker 3: him on the on the on the Paul Excitement List.
Speaker 3: That's where I have.
Speaker 10: He provided you excitement.
Speaker 3: That's why he's on the Paul Excitement.
Speaker 10: Put him on the good listt put him on the
Speaker 10: good list.
Speaker 3: I can't put a guy who turned the ball over
Speaker 3: three times on the good list.
Speaker 10: Just what did you expect?
Speaker 3: I didn't expect anything. I was watching the game and
Speaker 3: I was going to see what happened.
Speaker 10: He made you excited. I absolutely made you excited. Excited
Speaker 10: he guys on the good list.
Speaker 3: I was absolutely excited. Can we also? He also turned
Speaker 3: the ball over three times? I can't put him on the.
Speaker 10: Cause I knew that was going to happen.
Speaker 5: And some of the passes, you know, that was just
Speaker 5: so all over, all over the place.
Speaker 10: Finally he thinks Pop Douglas is good.
Speaker 8: I know, Well, hey where we got that came?
Speaker 3: He got a touchdown to polk.
Speaker 4: Look anyway, I said, I said, I joke to Fred, Oh,
Speaker 4: this is what you guys have been telling me he
Speaker 4: does all the time.
Speaker 10: No, we told you it is. We told you what
Speaker 10: he can do. What that's that's what he does. Okay,
Speaker 10: but yeah, you didn't see the speed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, he beat that guy in a blink off
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 10: That was and it was a good pass that led
Speaker 10: him and he allowed him.
Speaker 3: It's part of what I would.
Speaker 10: Have allowed him to show his talent.
Speaker 4: You know, I'll save my nitpicking probably until the week,
Speaker 4: but you know, it would have been nice to see
Speaker 4: some of that in the first three quarters of the game,
Speaker 4: and it was a little bit more competitive. But I'm nitpicking.
Speaker 4: That's a nitpick.
Speaker 3: Is that it for goods?
Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, it might be for me. I mean,
Speaker 8: as much as I could point out good plays with
Speaker 8: some of these guys, there are also other players that
Speaker 8: I could I could point out and be bad, and
Speaker 8: I don't, you know, want to shorten the segment, but
Speaker 8: I think a lot of these guys are are worthy
Speaker 8: of I.
Speaker 10: Really only I had four people. I had May I'm good.
Speaker 10: I'm good. I had I had Pop Douglas, Okay.
Speaker 3: Mike had him, I had Booty.
Speaker 10: Mentioned them, and I give Hasty a good just for
Speaker 10: being thrown in there and in the effort not not
Speaker 10: dropping the ball. Who Hasty for?
Speaker 11: What?
Speaker 10: For just getting it being thrown in there?
Speaker 3: And you know he's the like a backup running back.
Speaker 5: The lead kickoff returner who I think.
Speaker 3: At least kickoff returner every game at.
Speaker 5: Least twice stopped and allowed the other team to tackle him. No,
Speaker 5: he's like the kickoff return was.
Speaker 3: He had to carries for twelve yards.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I put him on the good Wow, Okay, I
Speaker 10: think I would.
Speaker 4: I have to say, this is the most incredulous I've
Speaker 4: ever been over a selection for you, the list in
Speaker 4: the illustrious history of this pro the illustrious history of
Speaker 4: this program, Like.
Speaker 5: Are you Jennings and I give I given the defense.
Speaker 10: No one gets on the good list, the whole defense.
Speaker 10: It was absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 3: But I don't kill the defense. I do, I don't.
Speaker 4: I mean I I it wasn't good. It's again it's
Speaker 4: not on the good list. But they were put in
Speaker 4: a lot of bad spots and they didn't always give
Speaker 4: up a touchdown.
Speaker 3: There were a couple of full play field goal drives.
Speaker 10: It's not it's full plays three yards field.
Speaker 3: That's as good as you can it's.
Speaker 10: Just not the final points. It's like, you know, you
Speaker 10: get you get in a position and then like you
Speaker 10: give up these big runs and it's just that's fair.
Speaker 3: That's that's fair.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I've seen the I've seen the defense play
Speaker 4: a lot worse than it did today. I know they
Speaker 4: give forty one points and it looks horrible. I don't
Speaker 4: think they were responsible for the forty one points stats.
Speaker 3: Would they run for Houston? Run for total? Well, they
Speaker 3: ran for a lot, but it was all on three.
Speaker 5: Three rays, right, But those plays were not competitive.
Speaker 3: Jeezus one hundred and ninety two.
Speaker 8: Again, yea one hundred ninety two Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: Seven yards yeah, fifty nine and fifty four yard runs.
Speaker 8: One hundred of them came on two gigs. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm not putting like, I'm not telling you the
Speaker 4: defense was good by any stretch.
Speaker 3: It was not good today. Fred's right.
Speaker 4: Fred's way more right than I am. I just I
Speaker 4: think there were some extenuating circumstances.
Speaker 10: They were made to look worse than they were.
Speaker 4: But it I thought that some of the spots they
Speaker 4: were put in they handled pretty well.
Speaker 3: But you're right.
Speaker 4: I mean, bottom line is there were times when they
Speaker 4: gave up plays and you know, like you need to stop,
Speaker 4: Like you.
Speaker 3: Know, Mike was joking.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: He Mike had a little look in his eye today
Speaker 4: that I haven't really seen much.
Speaker 3: Mike was envisioning a thirty five thirty.
Speaker 4: Four win that I thought was quite pure, out of
Speaker 4: pure Fantasy lands. And it's third and five and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I just looked at and after that playoff was like,
Speaker 4: that's what's happened all day. Every time, every time they
Speaker 4: needed to complete a little pass, they completed a little
Speaker 4: pass unless they did something to stop it, and like
Speaker 4: that was as easy. And then the next play Pierce
Speaker 4: runs fifty four yards with a touchdown.
Speaker 5: Douce your favorite player today? How do you think he looked?
Speaker 8: Who is Who's my favorite player? Stefan Diggs, Don't get
Speaker 8: me started on him, Like all right, so that's what
Speaker 8: just kills me like that, Like and Paul saw me.
Speaker 8: I had steam coming out of my ears to you know,
Speaker 8: the rest are calling all these tiki taky calls on
Speaker 8: the first and yes, some of them are just talking
Speaker 8: about But then a blatant face mask where like everyone
Speaker 8: can see it.
Speaker 5: It's crossed the Patriots and a touchdown.
Speaker 10: They missed that it gave them a touch And then
Speaker 10: my best friend.
Speaker 8: Stefan Diggs, the great, greatest guy ever, then gets a
Speaker 8: freaking taunting penalty, like the great guy that he is. Uh,
Speaker 8: I just think he's a turd. I I wouldn't know.
Speaker 8: I wouldn'tant him on my team. I honestly wouldn't. I know,
Speaker 8: says I'm stupid that you need that number one and
Speaker 8: that guy is awesome. But I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I just I wouldn't want to win the team now,
Speaker 4: but I would. I would have wanted him on my
Speaker 4: team the last five years, and you were like turned
Speaker 4: them up.
Speaker 8: He didn't never want anything with Buffalo. There's a reason
Speaker 8: they got rid of him.
Speaker 3: So you know, one of those they never want anything.
Speaker 8: They never want anything. What they want they that's so,
Speaker 8: that's that's it.
Speaker 3: Like you win eleven twelve games.
Speaker 8: I'm mad right now and I'm pouting.
Speaker 4: Stop putting credit though, Fred, because he's very consistent.
Speaker 3: He had no use for the twelve and four seasons
Speaker 3: the Patriots are putting.
Speaker 8: I had no use for a number one. If it's anyway,
Speaker 8: let's let's move on from Dicks. I just I want
Speaker 8: to mention I don't know if he's on that list,
Speaker 8: but this Ben Brown kid came out of nowhere. I
Speaker 8: didn't really see any botch snaps or anything like that.
Speaker 8: I maybe the ball knowers will tell me that there
Speaker 8: was pressure coming up his way the whole game.
Speaker 10: I haven't read that.
Speaker 3: That's not.
Speaker 8: But I I just much in the same line of
Speaker 8: last week, I gave credit to Mapu from coming out
Speaker 8: of nowhere and playing I'm going to give credit to
Speaker 8: that kid fair enough his first NFL start. I would
Speaker 8: I would agree with you saw enough botch snaps.
Speaker 4: There were a couple of snaps that looked funny, I
Speaker 4: would say, but I didn't, like, you know, a couple
Speaker 4: of double clutches. But I'm gonna sorry, Fred, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: put that on May because I know, yeah, that one
Speaker 4: was yeah how much?
Speaker 3: So I agree with you.
Speaker 10: I didn't he had like eight offensive plays to his
Speaker 10: credit coming in.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so that's you know, I don't know exactly how
Speaker 8: well he played. He might have given up a few pressures,
Speaker 8: but I mean all the sacks were from the edges
Speaker 8: as they as they have been. And you know, Venerian
Speaker 8: Low went out again and uh and another guy had
Speaker 8: to step in, so it's you know, they're just getting
Speaker 8: getting really killed on the offensive. Line this year.
Speaker 5: I brought up digs number one to get under your skin,
Speaker 5: but number two to bring up Christian Gonzales.
Speaker 3: Okay, And I know it.
Speaker 5: Wasn't uh uh apples to apples comparison. And we don't
Speaker 5: know what the coverages were. Were they playing man? Were
Speaker 5: they you know, what were they doing? Were they showing
Speaker 5: me in and going back into his own.
Speaker 4: Some of those big ones we were, man, Yeah, good
Speaker 4: first drive there was like three in a row.
Speaker 3: Now not good enough.
Speaker 8: And I'd put Marcus Jones on Tank Dell right next
Speaker 8: to him. I think both those guys, you know, those
Speaker 8: Dell and Dickson, though.
Speaker 4: I thought Jonathan Jones struggled to I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I thought the secondary as a whole was.
Speaker 8: And Jonathan Jones kind of in and out, in and out.
Speaker 4: Marco Marco Wilson was informed and in fairness, Marcus Jones
Speaker 4: on the injury report this week with you know, with
Speaker 4: the groin issue, so you know he's fighting hurt a
Speaker 4: little bit, but just it wasn't good enough. It's a
Speaker 4: good point. Maybe that's why they don't put him back
Speaker 4: on kicks. Yeah, that's a good point, Mike about Marcus Jones.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree. The secondary wasn't good enough today.
Speaker 4: You know, you had no Nico Collins that should have
Speaker 4: given you, you know, a.
Speaker 3: Leg up, and those other two guys were open all day, you.
Speaker 4: Know, and it wasn't huge numbers. But the reason it
Speaker 4: wasn't huge numbers is because of the field position they
Speaker 4: kept taking over in so you can only get to
Speaker 4: the end zone.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 5: You know, Mike, your other favorite player. I have a
Speaker 5: feeling he's going to wind up on your bad list today.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 8: No, yeah, I just had.
Speaker 3: A tough, tough game bad drops.
Speaker 8: Ike was really mad at him, disappointed, disappointed.
Speaker 3: I had a different I had a different version of
Speaker 3: my head press box. Well, it was kind of fun.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 12: No.
Speaker 8: I was a little fired out. I mean, look, you
Speaker 8: know why because Drake May made me excited enough to care,
Speaker 8: you know, and that's why, like, you know, when it's
Speaker 8: Jacobe Prissette out there, and you know, this offense isn't
Speaker 8: really something you're gonna build around, and you just want
Speaker 8: guys to support the rookie quarterback and you're seeing right
Speaker 8: here some of the you know, just surprising drops, uncharacteristics dry.
Speaker 8: You know that that that's a play that Jalen Polk.
Speaker 8: I've seen him catch you know, already a dozen times
Speaker 8: in between training, camping and the early part of the.
Speaker 3: Season, but like, what is that that one at the end?
Speaker 8: I mean, just incredibly uh, you know, disappointing from him
Speaker 8: again trying to support the rookie quarterback. I'm more than anything,
Speaker 8: I'm surprised because I thought not to say that he
Speaker 8: would have put up the same production that we got
Speaker 8: out of Douglas today, but I would have expected a
Speaker 8: similar kind of performance where he said, hey, this is
Speaker 8: the guy I've been working with all summer. I'm gonna
Speaker 8: support them. I'm sure Jalen Polk's probably in there feeling
Speaker 8: sick right now himself for the way he plays.
Speaker 3: Is it in his head?
Speaker 10: We'll see.
Speaker 8: I mean it's a rookie, it's you know.
Speaker 3: First, you might be fighting it a little bit.
Speaker 4: This is saying this is off the top of my head.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if this is exactly right, but
Speaker 4: it's close. I believe he was targeted four times to
Speaker 4: say he had one catch, so that wasn't that wasn't
Speaker 4: the part that was I think that that gives him
Speaker 4: seventeen targets in the last three games and five catches. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: and then I mean I think he had three three
Speaker 4: for seven against San Francisco, one for six last week
Speaker 4: and one for four today. And there was another one
Speaker 4: that he was targeted on that he didn't catch, that
Speaker 4: was overturned for a penalty when the kid for Houston
Speaker 4: got the hands to the face, so that doesn't count.
Speaker 4: He was, you know, similarly blanketed on that play too,
Speaker 4: So maybe he's you know, struggling a little bit. You know,
Speaker 4: I know it's a little early for the rookie wall
Speaker 4: kind of stuff, but no, but it's an it's because
Speaker 4: I agree with Mike. Those catches that he dropped today,
Speaker 4: those two passes, he literally caught every one of those
Speaker 4: in training camp and so far, like that's what anything
Speaker 4: he's gotten his hands on he's caught.
Speaker 3: Yes, something that was a typical of him wondering.
Speaker 8: Kind of like narrative busting. Like it's like, you know,
Speaker 8: you have this impression of a guy of all, right,
Speaker 8: he's not going to be the downfield speed guy, but
Speaker 8: like he's going to be a consistent hands guy, and
Speaker 8: he hasn't been that the last week. He's got to
Speaker 8: turn it around.
Speaker 13: They need him.
Speaker 10: Host, Matt, I do think that we need to devote
Speaker 10: some time of this show just really breaking down May's day.
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, really honestly.
Speaker 3: I have a feeling the next hour and going to
Speaker 3: always first.
Speaker 5: The first thing I started the shoot, Boss Fred is
Speaker 5: the lose forty one to twenty one.
Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to be talking about the game.
Speaker 10: No, I think I think this is we should really
Speaker 10: talk about, you know, what we saw that we like,
Speaker 10: what we saw that he needs to work on.
Speaker 3: So I bring up two other things.
Speaker 4: I think Fred's right, and I agree, and I'll just say,
Speaker 4: like real quick, three third down penalties and like the
Speaker 4: first fifteen minutes and four seconds on failed third downs,
Speaker 4: three third down penalties on failed third downs for the defense.
Speaker 4: Today you get a penalty on the opening kickoff by
Speaker 4: the guy coming off of pup, you know, moving too soon,
Speaker 4: see ony taki taki, just another day of sloppiness with penalties.
Speaker 10: Well you guys, you guys haven't heard the coach yet,
Speaker 10: but wait till you hear him.
Speaker 3: Okay, good now that might excite that already heard me?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, that might. Well I didn't
Speaker 10: hear all of it, but I heard his opening remarks.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know what he's doing with
Speaker 8: the red cutoff hoodie too. That was just a throwback
Speaker 8: to headache that.
Speaker 3: So we're the two things I just want to bring up.
Speaker 5: Is it kicking a guy when it's down. I'm not
Speaker 5: saying that he has to has to be on the
Speaker 5: list Austin Hooper, like a guy's just trying to make
Speaker 5: a play too much, like you can't give it up there.
Speaker 3: No, it's just more sloppiness. It's a bad fumbles.
Speaker 5: Bad And I guess I'm gonna say maybe credit to
Speaker 5: the Houston Advanced scouting staff, like they they wanted the
Speaker 5: Patriots to feel the ball and kick returns, and you know.
Speaker 3: What they covered. They did a really good job.
Speaker 4: Believe they had one back to the thirty. Now, I
Speaker 4: don't know if they do that all year. That's there,
Speaker 4: that's their thing. They want to try to get you
Speaker 4: inside the thirty. But that's the first game that I've
Speaker 4: seen and I'm not talking about Patriots game. That's the
Speaker 4: first game that I've seen that that's been the case.
Speaker 4: A team went into the game and they said with
Speaker 4: the game plan. We're going to kick it and make
Speaker 4: them return it, and we're going to cover it every time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I have seen a game like that yet, and they
Speaker 4: did and they did it really he got to the
Speaker 4: thirty once. I think maybe the second kick of the game.
Speaker 4: He got to the thirty. Every other one, I don't
Speaker 4: know if it was hasty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's best return. That's the one that got to
Speaker 3: the thirty. Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 5: He wiped out the gatorade bucket for somebody wiped out
Speaker 5: the gatorade bucket.
Speaker 4: But every other one he was he had to. It
Speaker 4: was hard pressed to get to the twenty five. Yeah,
Speaker 4: their coverage was outstanding. Houston's coverage was excellent.
Speaker 5: Okay, so we've handled the good, we've handled the bad.
Speaker 5: From an injury standpoint, it wasn't like last week. They
Speaker 5: didn't come out clean. Low got Was it friendly fire
Speaker 5: that got Darian Low.
Speaker 8: Just twisted up like you know in the past rush
Speaker 8: he was on the ground. I actually know. I'm thinking
Speaker 8: to Jordan, I'm sorry I didn't see. I didn't see
Speaker 8: the Low and it was an ankle. But he's he's
Speaker 8: been banged up a lot.
Speaker 5: It's unbelieve that guy.
Speaker 3: The same injury though, right, the ankle isn't that.
Speaker 8: Point and then he was back, Well that was a
Speaker 8: couple of weeks and the oblique I think was a
Speaker 8: couple of weeks ago. So he just you know, he
Speaker 8: gets banged up a lot. I think that's what we're
Speaker 8: kind of finding out with him. And as much as
Speaker 8: they wanted that continuity came into this game. I mean,
Speaker 8: I think we probably spent the first hour and a
Speaker 8: half of the pregame show talking about, hey, they finally
Speaker 8: had some off and then it was like, wait, Ben
Speaker 8: Brown's at center, and then it was like, oh, Venerian
Speaker 8: Lowe's out, and then you know, Michael Jordan went out briefly.
Speaker 8: He did come back, which was a good Signmapu went
Speaker 8: out with a neck which he was astute probably a stinger, yep,
Speaker 8: which is always a.
Speaker 4: I ruled that a stinger from a far and I
Speaker 4: believe I channeled my inner Brian Morey.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: He's done. Right.
Speaker 5: What about did Gibson go out? He took a shot
Speaker 5: along the sideline, so it never saw him again.
Speaker 10: He got he got.
Speaker 3: I think he may have.
Speaker 14: Mad.
Speaker 3: I don't think they never announced anything for him, but
Speaker 3: there was a point where.
Speaker 10: All of a sudden beating today.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they just decided we don't need
Speaker 4: to give him any more hits, or if he was
Speaker 4: dealing with something because.
Speaker 3: He took it right. What did the thirteen for nineteen like?
Speaker 3: He did not have a chance today.
Speaker 5: Okay, so we got through the good, the bad, and
Speaker 5: the injured. Why don't we regroup and, as the Boss
Speaker 5: Mean suggested, let's get into dissect and analyze Drake May
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Speaker 3: Let's talk about Drake. May give me a stat line, please, sir?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like we like we said, mixed bag twenty for
Speaker 4: thirty three two and forty three yards, three touchdowns, two
Speaker 4: picks and a loss fumble. Now I would say how
Speaker 4: many sacks?
Speaker 8: Hope, police, it was like four, maybe three or four.
Speaker 8: It was all Hunter and his trend created.
Speaker 10: To be sure, tonight he will four sacks and he
Speaker 10: ran for how many of yards?
Speaker 4: He did a good, great job with his legs. Five
Speaker 4: for thirty eight yards with a long and fifteen So yeah,
Speaker 4: he did a great job with his legs.
Speaker 3: A lot of stuff to like.
Speaker 4: From a stat line perspective, just you know, to put
Speaker 4: it all into context, two hundred and forty three yards
Speaker 4: blows away anything they did in the first five games
Speaker 4: crossingep you know, they were averaging one hundred and nineteen
Speaker 4: yards passing a game. Yeah, so twenty one points, that's
Speaker 4: the high watermark. Twenty was the previous best against Seattle.
Speaker 4: So some good, some bad. Forty one allowed is also
Speaker 4: the high water mark, and a big part of the
Speaker 4: reason for that of the four turnovers, three of which
Speaker 4: were on May. So yeah, a lot of a lot
Speaker 4: of good and a lot of bad, you know, which
Speaker 4: is to be expected.
Speaker 5: Fred, Are you prepared to say after watching one game
Speaker 5: that they've now gone from a team that did not
Speaker 5: have a serviceable passing game. Do they have a serviceable
Speaker 5: passing game now?
Speaker 10: No? Not until they fixed the.
Speaker 3: Lots of line Okay, yeah, I agree with Freddy.
Speaker 10: But they have a serviceable passer, yes, and maybe even
Speaker 10: more than that. Right, But in terms of the total game,
Speaker 10: I mean, he's under siege every almost every play. You know,
Speaker 10: toward the end of the first half, he wasn't because
Speaker 10: you know, Jacksonville was not Jacksonville. Who were they playing today?
Speaker 10: Houston was playing back a little bit. They weren't rushing
Speaker 10: as many, and he had a little bit more time
Speaker 10: and it showed. But you know, for the most part,
Speaker 10: there's always somebody in his face. I think, you know,
Speaker 10: he was a little flustered at times back there. I
Speaker 10: think he needs to work on his pocket awareness. A
Speaker 10: lot of times he's bouncing off guys like a pinball
Speaker 10: back there, and sometimes he escapes, sometimes he didn't, but
Speaker 10: you know, he his his pocket awareness of what's going
Speaker 10: around him needs to be improved. His accuracy was off
Speaker 10: at times, but again, you know that could be from
Speaker 10: you know, you don't know when you're gonna help. Yeah, right, so,
Speaker 10: but so that will improve. But the mobility, the arm strength,
Speaker 10: the ability to extend plays, all that's stuff that we
Speaker 10: were told was there. We saw glimpses of all of that,
Speaker 10: and I think we saw glimpses of the future.
Speaker 5: I'm sure enough not smart enough Mike to really comment
Speaker 5: accurately or with any kind of respectability on his footwork,
Speaker 5: but that was a big topic of discussion draft after
Speaker 5: the draft. In training camp, did you see anything in
Speaker 5: his footwork that would make you think it's improved if
Speaker 5: it wasn't very good or still needs work as far
Speaker 5: as his footwork is concerned, I mean nothing to watch
Speaker 5: the film, Matt, Yeah, I figured I knew that it
Speaker 5: was got.
Speaker 8: To take to the tape for that one, but I
Speaker 8: just echo, you know what Fred said. I think my
Speaker 8: expectations this this was a little bit on like steroids.
Speaker 8: Like I felt like, I'll throw a touchdown, but he's
Speaker 8: gonna turn one over. I didn't expect like he's gonna
Speaker 8: throw three touchdown. It's gonna have you know, four three turnovers,
Speaker 8: you know, and some of the some of the balls,
Speaker 8: like I talked about with him just being a little
Speaker 8: sporadic and it's being high, and there were a couple
Speaker 8: where I did feel like he had time and you know,
Speaker 8: I don't know if it was specific to his footwork
Speaker 8: or him you know, just being uncomfortable generally, but I
Speaker 8: think he sprayed a couple that that were probably a
Speaker 8: little bit easier than than he made him out to be.
Speaker 3: So that's a good you.
Speaker 5: Know, you talked about down in the pregame show. He said, geez,
Speaker 5: the worst thing that could happen what you didn't want
Speaker 5: to see Wash gift a pick to an opposing player.
Speaker 5: I don't know that I would call this a gift,
Speaker 5: but he certainly sailed that first interception where it looked
Speaker 5: like the guy was open underneath and the ball just
Speaker 5: sailed on roat, you know, and that might be nerves.
Speaker 10: Yep, you know, yeah, sure he had.
Speaker 4: As we saw this summer, he had a couple others
Speaker 4: that got away and they went on. You know, there
Speaker 4: was a crosser I think that Douglas. Douglas reached his
Speaker 4: hand back and you're like, oh boy, because those are
Speaker 4: the ones that get picked, yes, you know, and you
Speaker 4: know that they fell. Yeah, there was there was a lot.
Speaker 4: He sprayed it around. Yeah, he was all over the fairway.
Speaker 8: And like it's like you can throw a forty yard
Speaker 8: dive that drops right into booty, but the throw bloody
Speaker 8: was perfect ten yard crosser. It was a little you know,
Speaker 8: so I just think that's youth, and you know he'll
Speaker 8: he'll get those things is he gets more calm.
Speaker 10: So so here's the thing, here's the challenge to the
Speaker 10: coaching staff right now.
Speaker 5: I wonder if it's the same one that I said,
Speaker 5: fred Bie.
Speaker 10: Well, you got eleven games left? Do you coach? I'm
Speaker 10: talking about the offense mostly, but do you coach the
Speaker 10: games going forward to give the team the best chance
Speaker 10: to win? Or do you coach the games to develop
Speaker 10: your fa And those could be opposed?
Speaker 3: Actually, so how so explain that?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 10: Like, you know, like I want to see them run
Speaker 10: an offense in plays that will test may that will
Speaker 10: test his limits, that will see what he can do,
Speaker 10: you know, and the results be damned. You know if
Speaker 10: he has another game where he turns it over three
Speaker 10: times and I don't care, but I want, I want
Speaker 10: to I want to see play calling that you know,
Speaker 10: accentuates the talents that we think he has.
Speaker 4: So where would you say, where would you put today's
Speaker 4: play calling in that regard?
Speaker 3: Well, I thought they put more on his plate than
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 10: Well no, but I think they got behind so early
Speaker 10: that they had a throw. But what happens if it's close.
Speaker 10: Do they keep it close.
Speaker 4: To And I know that a lot of people are
Speaker 4: going to say on the opening drive, you know, so
Speaker 4: Houston goes right down the field seven nothing to come out, run,
Speaker 4: run third and long, you know, And and I get it,
Speaker 4: like that's what they did, you know.
Speaker 3: But I thought for the most part they.
Speaker 4: Treated it like a regular He's just a regular quarterback,
Speaker 4: not not a quarterback making his first start.
Speaker 3: I agree. I didn't see a lot of training wheels.
Speaker 10: I agree with that. But will they do that going forward?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, no, It's an interesting thing.
Speaker 5: We shall see because the one in five New England Patriots.
Speaker 10: Listen twelve and five is still on the table.
Speaker 8: There you go, Freddy, go to London.
Speaker 3: Quarterback. The question is, like.
Speaker 10: The question is how do they think they can get
Speaker 10: those twelve wins?
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Speaker 17: Hey, there guys, just a couple of things I want
Speaker 17: to kind of rattle off to you, I thought, Uh.
Speaker 17: I thought the defense was terrible, especially on third down defense.
Speaker 17: I understand they went four for eleven, but and in
Speaker 17: situations where they really needed to stop two pass interppearance,
Speaker 17: I thought was unnecessary.
Speaker 4: And you'd make a good point because those don't count
Speaker 4: in the four for eleven. That's like six for old
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Those those are those are
Speaker 4: conversions that don't count.
Speaker 3: The stats.
Speaker 17: Correct, And I just mean, yeah, you're you're right, I
Speaker 17: mean either way, Like and then in situations where we
Speaker 17: could have splash, should have had stops, I thought that
Speaker 17: the cover would the coverage. We're terrible. Pass interferences were
Speaker 17: super bad, I thought, Uh, I thought Drake May, I'm
Speaker 17: definitely encouraged by the way he played. Obviously there were
Speaker 17: some ups, there's some downs, but I thought, for the
Speaker 17: most part, I'm encouraged by uh by what I saw.
Speaker 17: I thought Antonio Gibson, it's kind of proved to me
Speaker 17: that he was not And every down back I thought
Speaker 17: his du cane driving to uh to keep it simple
Speaker 17: was was discouraging. I'll say I was not encouraged at
Speaker 17: all by the way he ran.
Speaker 10: UH.
Speaker 6: But but that's.
Speaker 17: Pretty much it. The note question just just just to
Speaker 17: kind of a couple of things out, no questions, just
Speaker 17: to come.
Speaker 3: Man, I don't think you've so much of it.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Cameron. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Pinballing up this up the middle and I thought he
Speaker 4: was getting hit immediately.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and the one day they held him up low
Speaker 10: and then another guy came high and he's just like
Speaker 10: I thought he was going to break his back.
Speaker 5: Uh, let's go next to Nelson in Los Angeles. Nelson,
Speaker 5: you're next on the Patriot's post game show? Are you excited?
Speaker 5: Nelson after watching Drake May today, sirs.
Speaker 18: That means look at the light. That means we got
Speaker 18: something going on. I should have started before we played
Speaker 18: the Jets. He would have been better in this game.
Speaker 18: I would have started three week ago week one.
Speaker 10: We would have won this game if he had started
Speaker 10: week one.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see.
Speaker 4: I think I think as long as he's healthy, he's
Speaker 4: going to start the rest of them.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think the actually potential on that guy. I
Speaker 18: see a lot of potential that the other quarterback didn't have.
Speaker 18: And one more thing, Oh do we do we drop that?
Speaker 10: We usually generally yeah, usually, you know, like when it
Speaker 10: happens once we.
Speaker 3: Put him on probation, and yeah, you know they.
Speaker 10: Go by the way. By the way, you know, he
Speaker 10: played the whole game. I think I looked at the injuries.
Speaker 10: I think he's still alive, Drake May Do you think
Speaker 10: he survived? I don't know.
Speaker 4: If I would, I would hold on your victory last.
Speaker 4: So the injury report comes out next week. I don't
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you right now he going beyond it.
Speaker 10: I don't think he think so.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't.
Speaker 10: I don't think he's ruined.
Speaker 4: The ruins thing is where I jump on board. He
Speaker 4: took a lot of big hits today, yeah, and he
Speaker 4: was slow getting up a lot today.
Speaker 10: But there was one that.
Speaker 3: It's called football. If I'm with Fred's premise here.
Speaker 10: I mean we talked like we were sending him out,
Speaker 10: you know, in World War One, to the front line
Speaker 10: with a rifle and a banet. You know, it's like,
Speaker 10: here you go, kid, fight the Germans.
Speaker 4: So this the play that Low gets hurt on as
Speaker 4: well as he goes down, does he get on the
Speaker 4: back right there, right right on Low's ankle?
Speaker 5: Could call there, Paul Hope, says Cynthia, who says yes,
Speaker 5: we lost, but how many people thought we'd score twenty
Speaker 5: one points? Imagine that that's now the barometer. I mean,
Speaker 5: we were messing and we still had unnecessary penalties, capitol letters.
Speaker 5: But there are things we can clean up. Drake made
Speaker 5: moves with his legs.
Speaker 3: Pop.
Speaker 5: Douglas showed up. Remember this is a game we weren't
Speaker 5: expected to do well and let alone win. We showed
Speaker 5: up and we showed that we don't give up. We
Speaker 5: can do better next game.
Speaker 3: I just want to.
Speaker 4: Caution, like the offense wasn't really any better today, like overall,
Speaker 4: Like there were past plays that were better than anything
Speaker 4: we've seen the offense, and I know that they all count.
Speaker 4: And I said at the beginning of the show, I
Speaker 4: think Mike, even before you came down, when Jacoby was
Speaker 4: the quarterback, we didn't get garbage touchdowns at the end
Speaker 4: of the game when the games were over.
Speaker 3: We got one today. Deal Like whatever. They didn't really
Speaker 3: do much offensively for a long time in this game.
Speaker 8: No, I was just gonna highlight the touchdown throw in
Speaker 8: the thirty five yard and it pop, which is you
Speaker 8: just don't see those explosive plays around here. It's been
Speaker 8: a long time since those.
Speaker 3: Are the plays on focus, you know, because we haven't
Speaker 3: had any.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, that's what we were talking about. When
Speaker 8: was the last time of forty yards in the air
Speaker 8: pass and the into the end zone? I mean, I
Speaker 8: don't know if we ever saw that, Mike.
Speaker 4: You and I like to talk about like, you know,
Speaker 4: what can we what can we bring forward?
Speaker 3: What's sustainable?
Speaker 19: Right?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, you know Drake May running around for a few
Speaker 4: minutes looking like he's gonna run, then all of a
Speaker 4: sudden stopping just before the line of scrimmage and finding
Speaker 4: a wide open hunter Like that's probably not a play
Speaker 4: that's going to happen a lot, but those are the
Speaker 4: off platform plays that Drake May can make.
Speaker 3: That Jacobe Prissett cough platform.
Speaker 10: I love it.
Speaker 5: The future from Dean in Liverpool in the UK Wonderfield
Speaker 5: be at the game next week. No, it wasn't perfect,
Speaker 5: but it was filled with moments to give us optimism
Speaker 5: moving forward. That Drake May is our future and we
Speaker 5: should build the team around him. Imagine this kid with
Speaker 5: protection and just one outstanding receiver. Drake May is the future,
Speaker 5: so says Dean from Liverpool.
Speaker 4: I think you know what you're gonna need with all
Speaker 4: of that, you need the protection. Fred talked about that
Speaker 4: off the top, and I think Fred, you also mentioned
Speaker 4: some weapons. You're also gonna need him to figure out
Speaker 4: how to be accurate because you can't leave as many
Speaker 4: completions on the field.
Speaker 3: As he did today. Okay, so that's gonna have to
Speaker 3: be part of it too.
Speaker 5: So to Fred's point that he made earlier, can we
Speaker 5: let him go through that this year and work on
Speaker 5: the accuracy issues?
Speaker 3: I would be stunted better start the rest of the games.
Speaker 3: Barring an injury, of course, but I.
Speaker 5: Think we're gonna be seeing accuracy issues and hopefully we're
Speaker 5: going to see improvement as the year goes on.
Speaker 3: That's what you better hope for, really hope.
Speaker 10: So really, you know, I don't think there's any question,
Speaker 10: barring injury, he's going to start every one of these games.
Speaker 10: My question is how will they coach them. Will they
Speaker 10: you know, we're a running team, you know, and and
Speaker 10: go that way, or will they let this kid air
Speaker 10: it out? You know?
Speaker 5: I mean, so well, I was just let's let's make
Speaker 5: a couple of assumptions it's a winnable game next week.
Speaker 5: Can we all agree on that Yeah, sure, sure, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeahs Sup's certainly winnable.
Speaker 5: Let's say that Stevenson comes back next week. What if
Speaker 5: they find themselves in a low scoring game, like a
Speaker 5: tractor pull thirteen ten thirteen doll game. You know, do
Speaker 5: you owe it to them, to these guys who are
Speaker 5: given their sweat and their tears, we got to win
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 10: It's a fair question.
Speaker 5: It's a protect the game, don't turn it over.
Speaker 10: No, no, no, it's a fair question. Like That's why
Speaker 10: I'm saying it's a tough thing because you know, like
Speaker 10: there's a lot of other guys on this team too.
Speaker 10: It's not just Drake Man. They want to win, Yeah,
Speaker 10: they want to win.
Speaker 8: I just think that this offense for so long you
Speaker 8: felt like they're dead in the water. If they get
Speaker 8: down by two scores and just to see a couple
Speaker 8: throws down the field, that makes you think that this
Speaker 8: kid could lead an offense that has some explosive potential.
Speaker 8: Like to me, that means so much in this NFL.
Speaker 8: You cannot compete on the narrow road to victory that
Speaker 8: we hammer year in and year out the last three
Speaker 8: years about get down by fourteen dead Let's.
Speaker 10: Break down the picks.
Speaker 3: Was that for me? It was a great It was
Speaker 3: a great mic. Just so rant I love it.
Speaker 10: Let's let's break down the picks.
Speaker 3: The first one was terrible.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he just both of them sailed it, both of them.
Speaker 3: The first one was terrible, the second one. You can't
Speaker 3: have that pass.
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, yeah, he's gotta he's got to recognize it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I blame that, you know, not downs at the
Speaker 10: line on the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I also would blame I think it was Jacobs.
Speaker 3: I think that needs to be a cut block.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I'm not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of Alonzo Stag's.
Speaker 8: Got good time and just sales.
Speaker 4: That's a terrible that that one's that one's a terrible
Speaker 4: throat and he had others kind of like that.
Speaker 3: That landed harmlessly today.
Speaker 8: I love on the tackle though Paul wasn't thinking no Drake, no, no.
Speaker 3: No, the whole time, I no, get out of it,
Speaker 3: get out.
Speaker 5: Of it, separates the shoulder on you know, bright future
Speaker 5: from Houston. Drake may showed a lot of promise today.
Speaker 5: Some issues to be sold, for sure, but maybe the
Speaker 5: best rookie debut for a quarterback.
Speaker 3: In Pat's history.
Speaker 5: Very excited for what's to come, at least for the
Speaker 5: off Like.
Speaker 3: What did we watch? What did I miss?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 10: But first of all, was there better one? Better debut
Speaker 10: by a quarterback rookie?
Speaker 3: Like, forget that it was they haven't had one in
Speaker 3: a long long time, right, well years ago.
Speaker 10: Oh, I guess Mac mac Jones was a rookie. You
Speaker 10: forget about it. I just I kind of watched.
Speaker 8: Do you remember first start?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Bailey's happies first start was better than that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just saying it was right the T game.
Speaker 4: I believe that was his first.
Speaker 10: No, it was Cleveland.
Speaker 4: Cleveland's even better, Right, Cleveland, it was even better. There
Speaker 4: was like, you guys aren't going to do this to me.
Speaker 4: You guys are going to go so over the top
Speaker 4: and you're gonna get me to be negative. I don't
Speaker 4: want to do it because I'm too excited about the
Speaker 4: Booty throw, the Douglas throw, Like That's what I'm going
Speaker 4: to focus on.
Speaker 3: But when it wasn't, the first.
Speaker 10: Dog was going to be good.
Speaker 3: You knew, all right, Paul just so he's like.
Speaker 4: Lovers, so so he needs the quarterback to make him good,
Speaker 4: is what you're telling. Because he has never looked the
Speaker 4: way he looked on that play.
Speaker 10: Ever, that's not true.
Speaker 3: He's never had a play like that.
Speaker 10: He had that great play in Dallas. That perception.
Speaker 8: I just give Will Anderson credit. I mean, it's he's
Speaker 8: a good player. Huh, got deflected and what a cat.
Speaker 4: Can't No, it's an unbelievable the fact that it gets intercepted.
Speaker 3: It's not Drake May's fault.
Speaker 4: Like that's a great, great individual play. But I don't
Speaker 4: even know who the guy is that picked it off.
Speaker 4: But you can't get the ball batted down on those plays.
Speaker 4: Like I'm with Fred Paul.
Speaker 5: Just to finish us up another topic that I know
Speaker 5: you love. On another note, this is from Houston. Again,
Speaker 5: the officiating was criminal today.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have.
Speaker 5: Changed the up with the game by any means, but wow,
Speaker 5: I was love speechless on a few of those calls,
Speaker 5: non calls.
Speaker 3: Love the shows. Keep the cut.
Speaker 4: The face mask was an agreed that that was the.
Speaker 10: Other one.
Speaker 3: First it was a penalty.
Speaker 4: I thought it was like, now here's where I would
Speaker 4: be upsetify with the Patriots. I thought the Patriots interfered
Speaker 4: worse than later in the game, called Gonzales on on
Speaker 4: Diggs at the corner of the end zone was more
Speaker 4: contact and Mapool won. The deflected pick was more like,
Speaker 4: I'd rather see those let go. But Fred's Fred called
Speaker 4: it live. Fret's had a really strong season Live, okay.
Speaker 4: Mapoo was on Schultz like, I think people think that
Speaker 4: the call was on the back of the end zone
Speaker 4: where a throw web. Now that's not where the call was.
Speaker 5: Another officiating question from Nick, and I said the same
Speaker 5: thing live. But of course nobody's around me but me myself,
Speaker 5: and I so like.
Speaker 3: You can't prove it.
Speaker 5: But Nick questions, there was a flag for legal formation
Speaker 5: that we accepted after a third down stop.
Speaker 3: Actually it was, it was, but it was a completion
Speaker 3: they had to take. They had to take the penalty.
Speaker 10: See what happened on the on the broadcast, is that
Speaker 10: you saw the ref right by the play He called it.
Speaker 3: Out, yes, but the other guy.
Speaker 10: Ruled him and said it was Then they talked and
Speaker 10: they ruled it a catch, so the Patriots had to
Speaker 10: take the penal.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 5: So Nick finishes what I was thinking, Did we have
Speaker 5: an option to decline? If so, is Mail outside out
Speaker 5: of his mind? No, I never saw the referee on
Speaker 5: the other side the same thing.
Speaker 3: Why why are we not just declining that let.
Speaker 10: Him kick right?
Speaker 4: So I actually had said something to Frank because I
Speaker 4: figured that was going to be a topic on the
Speaker 4: blog like that people were gonna because that's one of
Speaker 4: those things that sometimes the TV doesn't pick it up right.
Speaker 4: And you see it, and that guy came. The guy
Speaker 4: came from the back and ran up and emphatically gave
Speaker 4: it the catch signal if the problem.
Speaker 10: Was the play was just as emphatic saying and that
Speaker 10: was funny.
Speaker 4: I think he was just pouting because he's the one
Speaker 4: who called the penalty on the on the illegal shift.
Speaker 3: He caught it, But that doesn't matter now. I mean
Speaker 3: that was that was confusing.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: David Maine writes an exciting loss, this word shouldn't be
Speaker 5: in the same sentence.
Speaker 4: This is where I have to like, this is what
Speaker 4: I mean. I'm gonna end up getting negative in a
Speaker 4: place where I don't want to like. This was not
Speaker 4: anywhere near as good as some of these people are
Speaker 4: making it out to be.
Speaker 5: Right, Dave writes, I'm not a more victory guy again,
Speaker 5: and that was often close to one. But this is
Speaker 5: the best I felt after a loss, ever, very promising futurehead.
Speaker 5: Three tds in your first game is pretty remarkable, really,
Speaker 5: especially throwing to these characters. By the way, Matt looks
Speaker 5: like a grown up Ralphie from a Christmas story.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that movie, so just give him the
Speaker 3: bunny is.
Speaker 8: You can't shoot your eye out with those glasses at least.
Speaker 5: Okay, Kevin from Nashville has been waiting patiently. You are
Speaker 5: next on the Patriots postgame show.
Speaker 14: Kevin, Hello, I want to talk about the colossal mistake
Speaker 14: that a certain ball the radio said this week.
Speaker 3: That would probably be me.
Speaker 14: It was, it was, it was one of your favorite
Speaker 14: co hosts. But anyways, I think.
Speaker 4: Won you're not bold.
Speaker 14: I'm talking about masks. Anyways, the other.
Speaker 10: Show, I'm sorry, Kevin.
Speaker 3: Show starting mistakes loudly streaming.
Speaker 14: I don't see how that would be the case, because
Speaker 14: he got some of his rookie jitters out. There's no
Speaker 14: chance they're winning that game, for said, so he got
Speaker 14: some good plays out. He got some terrible plays out,
Speaker 14: like yeah, probably two terrible plays, double questionable plays. But
Speaker 14: he has some good.
Speaker 10: Plays, oh, Kevin, Like mass isn't alone. There's a whole
Speaker 10: you know, cottage industry of people right now saying that,
Speaker 10: you know.
Speaker 3: How can they do it?
Speaker 10: You know, Orlovsky and and everybody they you know, like
Speaker 10: I said, it's like they were sending this kid out
Speaker 10: to the front lines in World War One.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, Orlovsky is not as much about gold as he is.
Speaker 4: He just doesn't think he's ready. He thinks he has
Speaker 4: a lot of developing.
Speaker 10: Okay, let's let's go. Let's get the development.
Speaker 3: The pearl clutches are all the local media like what
Speaker 3: why not Miami?
Speaker 4: That was a winnable game, Like why is like the
Speaker 4: chances to win the number one criteria that play.
Speaker 3: You've been pretty consistent, Paul. If he's ready playing, that's
Speaker 3: what you've been saying.
Speaker 4: Now, I understand watching that game today, I understand why
Speaker 4: they were patient.
Speaker 3: He's not ready. He's not. But like I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: it's nukele loose.
Speaker 4: Do you remember like the scene when you know, you know,
Speaker 4: like after the game and they're talking about him, like
Speaker 4: they're they're going all over his stats, and it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, fourteen strikeouts, new league record, thirteen walks. That's
Speaker 4: what it was today. There was enough really good explosive
Speaker 4: plays that you're like, this.
Speaker 3: Is what he does.
Speaker 4: You see him move around the pocket, he found Hunter
Speaker 4: Henry and the bomb at the end of the half,
Speaker 4: and then you see him just a routine throw over
Speaker 4: the middle. It's like eight miles over the guy's head.
Speaker 4: There was enough of those today too to understand why
Speaker 4: they've been reluctant to play them.
Speaker 5: Duce, is this a fair question to ask? What's this
Speaker 5: game look like?
Speaker 8: If Brisette played, Well, it's probably still fourteen nothing at halftime,
Speaker 8: and you know, but maybe he doesn't turn it over early,
Speaker 8: and you know, it's probably like a twenty eight to nothing,
Speaker 8: right then instead of it.
Speaker 3: I think it might twenty one. I disagree.
Speaker 4: I think it would have been like, you know, like
Speaker 4: a lower scoring game that they lost by like ten, right.
Speaker 8: Well maybe yeah, but I mean they got with no
Speaker 8: not at all.
Speaker 4: Right, chances of winning were the same, right, I totally agree,
Speaker 4: But I think they might have lost like twenty four
Speaker 4: to fourteen.
Speaker 10: You're not giving them points.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there's you know, it's hard to imagine.
Speaker 4: Was it the second touchdown drive? Yeah, the one the
Speaker 4: Hunter Henry that was almost all passes, right, Yes, although
Speaker 4: that that's the one that had the there was a
Speaker 4: lot going on. Scramble, A scramble throw for the big
Speaker 4: chunk to Hunter Henry. I think happened on the drive
Speaker 4: that eventually ended with a Henry touchdown. There's no way
Speaker 4: that percent eats that touchdown drive, zero point zero, No way.
Speaker 3: That would be.
Speaker 8: My only pushback is like I feel like on each
Speaker 8: of their scoring drives something happened that you probably wouldn't
Speaker 8: have seen out of presette, you know, Like I just
Speaker 8: I don't know where the points would have He's not
Speaker 8: throwing that forty yard.
Speaker 3: Touchdown in twenty five.
Speaker 4: Of the points that Houston got wouldn't have happened if
Speaker 4: per sent it plays. And that's like, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It would have been a low scoring closer game that
Speaker 4: they similarly, as Fred said, had no chance to win.
Speaker 10: And that's the thing. Are you willing to give the
Speaker 10: other team points in order to develop this kid? Right?
Speaker 8: I think that's that's that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's that is really it.
Speaker 3: I just sacrificed today right for a benefit.
Speaker 10: Tool, and I would think most fans who want that
Speaker 10: high draft pick would be all in on that.
Speaker 3: Sign me a question to watch today's game over any of.
Speaker 10: The question is is the locker room going to be
Speaker 10: in on that?
Speaker 5: Well, that's a good question, I think.
Speaker 8: So I think the locker room is going to be
Speaker 8: like we are here and you know, they're going to
Speaker 8: take the positives, and you know, I also just I
Speaker 8: think it's a kid that got beat up out there,
Speaker 8: and they like, if I'm Jalen Polk, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 8: I didn't do my part to help my guy today.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 8: If I'm the offensive line, I'm saying, we got that
Speaker 8: kid killed. Like, no, disrespected Jacoby Brissette, but like he's
Speaker 8: a veteran, he's tough, he's big, he can handle it.
Speaker 3: That's why we got him.
Speaker 8: And now it's come on, guys.
Speaker 10: That was that was kind of my hope today. You know,
Speaker 10: before you know, Ben Brown came in, but my hope
Speaker 10: was like, you know, whoever it was, Scott Peters or
Speaker 10: Van Pelt or or Girodmeo, you know, gave them the
Speaker 10: you know, the offensive line that like, you know, damn it,
Speaker 10: no matter what happens, you know, And that's what Parcells did.
Speaker 10: When Bledsoe came in, he he got in front of
Speaker 10: the line. He said, I don't care what you have
Speaker 10: to do, do not let them touch this guy. And
Speaker 10: I think you know, and the works. But he had
Speaker 10: better players.
Speaker 4: He never he never really got sacked in his career
Speaker 4: when that wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 5: But now you have you remember that play we got
Speaker 5: turned down by Bruce Smith.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got sacked like eighteen times or something like
Speaker 4: that as a rookie. They got sacked eighteen times last week.
Speaker 8: No, I don't, but now you have these plays to
Speaker 8: point to and say, if we protect him, this is
Speaker 8: what this kid is capable of.
Speaker 10: Listen, there's plenty of film for the maid to watch
Speaker 10: and learn from this game.
Speaker 8: That's the thing that was funny about Houston countering and
Speaker 8: scoring a lot quick. It was like he's back on
Speaker 8: the field to get like he got a lot of
Speaker 8: extra plays just because the defense, you know, allowed some
Speaker 8: of those scoring.
Speaker 4: It's like the fifty four yard touchdown back the don.
Speaker 10: Just want to I want to know that. What did
Speaker 10: I say when they had that offensive penalty on first
Speaker 10: down in Mega first at least they got another.
Speaker 8: Place just accelerate the process.
Speaker 5: Chain lawyers, we changed Channon at Lanta rights sigh, it
Speaker 5: is what it is. Drake played well. At the same time,
Speaker 5: the defense was missing too many pieces to overcome the
Speaker 5: short fields that they were having to defend. The penalties
Speaker 5: once again played too much of a factor. Forty one
Speaker 5: points is unacceptable, but he is also understandable.
Speaker 3: All things considered.
Speaker 5: I think a little bit of Chad's all over the place.
Speaker 4: Because I think they're ignoring the why they were on
Speaker 4: so many short fields.
Speaker 3: Correct, and they.
Speaker 4: Were on short fields because of turnovers by Drake May
Speaker 4: Like those are like you have to evaluate everything. You
Speaker 4: can say for his first start, there was a lot
Speaker 4: to be excited about, but you can't say that was
Speaker 4: a good performance, no, Like based on the NFL average, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, but I put.
Speaker 10: Them on the good list. I didn't say, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Different, and I like agree with bred. Like if this
Speaker 3: was Derek Carr, like, you know, that's why he stakes,
Speaker 3: you would say that's why he stanks.
Speaker 8: But he was a tease right, Plus that punt return
Speaker 8: early five George five times Houston took over in Patriots territory.
Speaker 3: Five Yes, right.
Speaker 5: Poor punt, poor poor punt covered his worst game today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he had a couple of ones.
Speaker 5: All I know I've been harping on this. The golden
Speaker 5: age of punchs continues. Houston's got a weapon.
Speaker 3: Huh? That kid was the first one? Was good? Then?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 3: I think his hangtime was over five at least one
Speaker 3: of them, towering one.
Speaker 4: Shanked one out of bounds and in the second one
Speaker 4: gave up some field position there.
Speaker 5: Alex from Raleigh, North Carolina rights may can play, showed
Speaker 5: some flashes. Hard for him to do much with defensive
Speaker 5: lineman in the backfield office often he can move, he
Speaker 5: can make good throws. Do you all wish he'd started
Speaker 5: from week one?
Speaker 3: Get those? I wish he had started. I wish he
Speaker 3: started one.
Speaker 5: But that's not Revision's history, right, Like, do you really
Speaker 5: pull the tape and.
Speaker 3: Listen to that? Yeah?
Speaker 10: Yeah, Do you really think that he's that much better?
Speaker 10: He would have been that much better now in week
Speaker 10: six than he would have been week one. Like, no, no,
Speaker 10: I so start in week one, right.
Speaker 5: I'm with the panel on the optimism with Drake May
Speaker 5: I predicted this offseason our first draft pick will be
Speaker 5: an offensive line and I don't think Vegas would touch
Speaker 5: that one.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, it certainly seems that way.
Speaker 8: I mean, you'll, you'll, you'll get some sense next week
Speaker 8: against Jacksonville where.
Speaker 19: They're going to be picking him.
Speaker 5: I was saying something, boy, that's a tough one. In
Speaker 5: week seven, I said something to Tamara as we're watching
Speaker 5: the final seconds of this game, and I said, you know,
Speaker 5: call me old fashioned, but the game is built on,
Speaker 5: you know, blocking and tackling in their offensive line and
Speaker 5: their defensive.
Speaker 3: Line leave a lot to be desired.
Speaker 5: And that's why all the will the old school built
Speaker 5: from the inside out.
Speaker 3: And you can certainly see.
Speaker 10: Hey, by the way, what's the news on barb where
Speaker 10: everyone's saying, oh, looks like we'll be getting him back
Speaker 10: sooner than later.
Speaker 8: He tweeted an hour glass.
Speaker 3: No so well.
Speaker 4: On Friday, Mayo was asked about it, and I believe
Speaker 4: the question was posed similar to this, would you say
Speaker 4: that it's fair to suggest that you think there's a
Speaker 4: better chance that he could return this year than you
Speaker 4: did a month ago? When he said, I think that's fair. Okay,
Speaker 4: so you might get a chance to see him back
Speaker 4: at some point before.
Speaker 3: The season's over, I would say, based on what your
Speaker 3: odd said.
Speaker 8: On Friday, okay, I just say along those lines too, defensively,
Speaker 8: and I was just a little disappointed to kind of
Speaker 8: see them back in the Tavai inside McMillan inside, you know,
Speaker 8: Mapu was more in this kind of just primary safety.
Speaker 4: He was flat Yeah, he was flat out safety today,
Speaker 4: you know, for the most part with Duggar and then
Speaker 4: he was in and out.
Speaker 8: I just didn't I didn't love it. I didn't love it.
Speaker 8: I think they got to find something new, something new
Speaker 8: with those guys.
Speaker 5: Speaking of which, David from Madrid, Spain rights, I'm very
Speaker 5: concerned about the problem the defense is having stopping the run.
Speaker 5: Last week they get a TV bit just they got
Speaker 5: a touchdown by just running, and now they give the
Speaker 5: Texans one hundred and ninety two yards rushing. With Mixon,
Speaker 5: who just came back from injury, it was nice to
Speaker 5: see him get some your to the year, but there
Speaker 5: still aren't enough third down conversions for this team. Let's
Speaker 5: hope that that gets better.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I thought there were times when the run defense was
Speaker 4: better today, but the numbers are what they are and
Speaker 4: too many big plays.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got to be better.
Speaker 4: You can't allow two hundred yards rushing back to back weeks.
Speaker 5: Matt Morrell, yay, or nay on the HC we do.
Speaker 5: And so as we were talking a lot about the
Speaker 5: Patriots defense, Fred teased it earlier, but let's go to
Speaker 5: the head coach who was not happy with the team's
Speaker 5: defense when they met the media.
Speaker 6: You know, the penalties in the first half, just too many.
Speaker 20: It's the same story over and over again that four turnovers,
Speaker 20: three or four turnovers in the game.
Speaker 6: Can't win if you lose that battle.
Speaker 20: Defensively, I would say just the fundamentals of just tackling
Speaker 20: our run.
Speaker 6: Fits have to improve. They have to improve.
Speaker 20: And I told all those guys, I said, you should
Speaker 20: feel like crap today. You should feel like crap. You
Speaker 20: take away those two long runs. We had two runs
Speaker 20: over fifty yard and so I mean, it's just not
Speaker 20: winning football offensively. I thought they did some things that
Speaker 20: were encouraging. Obviously still not enough the turnovers. One was
Speaker 20: on a tip ball, but that's the way the league is.
Speaker 20: I thought Drake made some good decisions out there. I
Speaker 20: thought he had some good reads. I thought he tried
Speaker 20: to get the ball out of his hands. I thought
Speaker 20: he did a good job extending players with his legs
Speaker 20: and picking up first downs.
Speaker 6: So just got to be better fire.
Speaker 21: Away Gerard on on Drake, is that kind of what
Speaker 21: you hoped you would see as far as some of
Speaker 21: the things that he was able to do and kind
Speaker 21: of did you have that little bit of okay that
Speaker 21: forty yard dropping the bucket pass to Kaishawn that cuts
Speaker 21: you guys back into the game to end the half.
Speaker 20: Yeah, and look, we fully anticipate or expect him to
Speaker 20: be better going forward. You know, it was his first start.
Speaker 20: Obviously here at home. There was a lot of expectations
Speaker 20: on him. I thought he handled it well, so got
Speaker 20: a build on him. I thought he showed a lot
Speaker 20: of I thought he showed a lot of boys. I
Speaker 20: thought he went out there and controlled the huddle, got
Speaker 20: those guys out of the huddle, and.
Speaker 6: Once again made some place.
Speaker 20: And it's definitely encouraging, you know, as you know, from
Speaker 20: a team wide perspective, right now, we're just we're gonna
Speaker 20: we let him down. You know, it was his first
Speaker 20: game and I feel like I let him down. I'm
Speaker 20: sure all the coaches feel like we let everyone down,
Speaker 20: and it's got to be better.
Speaker 22: Throughout the first few games, you've emphasized the passing game
Speaker 22: as something that needs to improve today, I felt like
Speaker 22: we saw the receivers getting a little more involved. Just
Speaker 22: what would you say to the passing game today, specifically
Speaker 22: as it relates.
Speaker 10: To Drake May.
Speaker 20: Yeah, I would say, first, there were some good pockets.
Speaker 20: Let's start with upfront. I thought the offensive line at
Speaker 20: times definitely had some good pockets to allow the quarterback
Speaker 20: to make those throws. But once again, it's a team
Speaker 20: wide sport, and we don't feel very good about anything.
Speaker 7: Right now, Gerard, with the offensive line, the left side
Speaker 7: going down with Vederian and Michael, how tough is it
Speaker 7: right now to keep a cohesive unit together with how
Speaker 7: far down the depth chart you guys are at that spot.
Speaker 20: It's very tough. And you know, every single week is
Speaker 20: a different combination of players. It's tough to get in.
Speaker 20: You know, it's tough for those guys to really build
Speaker 20: that camaraderie or that communication.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 20: But again, like the the backup players, they have to
Speaker 20: prepare like their starters every week. And uh, we'll see
Speaker 20: how we came out of this game, but you know,
Speaker 20: it's definitely definitely an issue for us.
Speaker 3: Drid.
Speaker 12: You mentioned the penalties from a coaching staff standpoint, What
Speaker 12: can you do on your end to get those numbers down.
Speaker 20: Look, we talk about it all the time, and and
Speaker 20: you know, Saturday night meetings, we talk about what crew
Speaker 20: is gonna be out there.
Speaker 6: Uh, you know how.
Speaker 20: Frequ what do they call frequently? And we knew that
Speaker 20: this crew is gonna, you know, a high penalty calling crew.
Speaker 20: I thought the second half kind of cleaned it up
Speaker 20: a little bit, but there's way too many penalties in
Speaker 20: the game.
Speaker 23: Right girod A couple questions ago, you said that you,
Speaker 23: along with the players and so on, the coaching staff,
Speaker 23: let Drake down? Could you be more sport What you
Speaker 23: meant by that not.
Speaker 20: Really a coaching staff. Look, we're all I mean, we
Speaker 20: feel like crap right now. And I would say, just
Speaker 20: for a rookie quarterback to go out there and do
Speaker 20: some good things, you know, do some good things. I
Speaker 20: just felt like, you know, we could have did a
Speaker 20: better job supporting Pop.
Speaker 13: Douglas had ninety two receiving yards, most you guys have
Speaker 13: had in more than a year. He seemed to come
Speaker 13: off the field when you go to those two receiver sets.
Speaker 13: Do you think he can function in those? There's a
Speaker 13: way to get him the ball more often.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 20: You know, Pop, he's one of our best receivers. He
Speaker 20: can get open against anyone, and you know, those are
Speaker 20: definitely things we got to consider.
Speaker 24: Drod, how do you evaluate Drake's decision making today in
Speaker 24: terms of reads, making sure that they avoided the rush,
Speaker 24: et cetera.
Speaker 20: His reads were good all day. I thought his reads
Speaker 20: were good. I watched the film, obviously, but I thought
Speaker 20: he did a good job.
Speaker 3: Kean roach.
Speaker 25: You talked about the defense the first two drives of
Speaker 25: the game where they came right down the field, school,
Speaker 25: right down the field score. How disappointing was that from
Speaker 25: your perspective? And I think the one hundred and ninety
Speaker 25: two yards on the ground and what do you do
Speaker 25: to get going in the right direction there.
Speaker 6: It's very disappointing.
Speaker 20: And I would say, now at this time, we're kind
Speaker 20: of up and down as far as starting fast, and
Speaker 20: we have to start fast, whether we're on defense or offense,
Speaker 20: and we just we just didn't do that today.
Speaker 6: I thought they did settle down.
Speaker 20: But again it goes back to every single play being important,
Speaker 20: and you could stop them, stop them, stop him, and
Speaker 20: then all of a sudden, it's a fifty yard run.
Speaker 6: Like we can't live in that world.
Speaker 26: Your final question, hege rud over here. You're right in
Speaker 26: terms of play calling for Drake. Did you feel like
Speaker 26: on offense you guys did what you could to help
Speaker 26: him get settled in? Was it sort of how you
Speaker 26: planned or scripted or did things evolve differently?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
Speaker 20: You know, we talked about the first fift team as
Speaker 20: we always do, and that was to get him settled in.
Speaker 20: And once again, look he's a rookie making his first start.
Speaker 20: Will there be things that didn't go right for him?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Absolutely, but I thought I thought the way we
Speaker 6: planned that out was good.
Speaker 27: I don't know how many interactions you had with Drake
Speaker 27: during the game, but how did you see him react
Speaker 27: to some of the physical punishment he took throughout?
Speaker 20: Yeah, he took some big hits and you know, slow
Speaker 20: to get up after a couple of those. But he's
Speaker 20: a tough guy and I was encouraged by that.
Speaker 5: Thanks there was a head coach, Gerard Mayo. I was
Speaker 5: encouraged by his opening monologue. I like to hear it
Speaker 5: because we've discussed it a couple of different times here.
Speaker 5: You know, where do you separate winning the game versus
Speaker 5: development of the quarterback. The fan base is obviously jacked
Speaker 5: up and excited about to play the quarterback because they
Speaker 5: see hope the head coach.
Speaker 3: Is pissed and I like to see that.
Speaker 10: What are you going to do about it?
Speaker 5: Well, he's he's got very limited options, very limited options.
Speaker 8: They just got to play better. I mean that's there's
Speaker 8: no single wand you can wave with these guys. And
Speaker 8: I mean, unfortunately with the personnel that they're that they're
Speaker 8: rolling out there, they just there's no well, there's no depth,
Speaker 8: there's nothing to really tap to change. So I don't
Speaker 8: know they got They're gonna have to. They're gonna have
Speaker 8: struggles against the better teams with this defense this year.
Speaker 8: It's just kind of a fact of matter. Maybe Barbore
Speaker 8: comes back and gives them a little bit of a boost,
Speaker 8: But I think Bentley's done that though, right, No, No,
Speaker 8: not at all. And I think you know, Bentley is
Speaker 8: is maybe the biggest piece of that. And you know,
Speaker 8: not to say that he would fix everything, but him
Speaker 8: in the middle, everything he brings in the middle of
Speaker 8: the tackling. I just think that's the biggest piece right
Speaker 8: now that they're missing on this defense and that, and
Speaker 8: that's just counting the guys that they started the year with.
Speaker 8: I think they've got, you know, a ways to go
Speaker 8: next year to get you know, more personnel to build
Speaker 8: this defense up.
Speaker 5: And you could just judge him by the tremendous amount
Speaker 5: of churning they're doing and the practice squad on the
Speaker 5: roster where there's different defensive linemen picked up, dropped it everything.
Speaker 5: It's like, get him out of here, let's try something else.
Speaker 5: They're trying. But it's not like, you know, Reggie White's
Speaker 5: not available on waivers, you know, so these guys are
Speaker 5: available for a reason. And do they see a spark
Speaker 5: something that they're coaching staff can maybe get that it's
Speaker 5: gonna be a slight improvement over what they had.
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's a direct straight line to it,
Speaker 8: but I would look at the first couple drives where
Speaker 8: they couldn't get a stop and they're just you know,
Speaker 8: C J. Strouz just like, well, I got, you know,
Speaker 8: And then you started to see a little bit of
Speaker 8: pressure and a little key on White and then all
Speaker 8: of a sudden they started getting stops and then those
Speaker 8: dry up.
Speaker 4: I mean, well they started blitzing a little bit, and
Speaker 4: then when Tunssel went out, I do I do think
Speaker 4: it they got more pressure when they took advantage of that.
Speaker 4: But I liked the There was a one third down
Speaker 4: that I loved with the Christian Ellis and Mapu on
Speaker 4: a blitz, like you know, just doing something a little
Speaker 4: bit different. There was another one later that it wasn't
Speaker 4: a blitz per se, but they had, you know, one
Speaker 4: of those old time Belichick kind of rushes with five guys,
Speaker 4: but they were dropping different guys and rushing different guys.
Speaker 3: And don't know who's coming, and they confused them.
Speaker 4: So I did think that they did some things as
Speaker 4: that you know, this is a good play right here
Speaker 4: with you know, you get two guys, you send and
Speaker 4: they get they get home. That I believe that was
Speaker 4: a third down too.
Speaker 3: That's the only way to getting pressure is by doing
Speaker 3: stuff pressure.
Speaker 4: That's what you need to do, Like you need to
Speaker 4: figure out like you know, we've Mike and I have
Speaker 4: talked about this a million times.
Speaker 3: Like they don't have a lot of guys.
Speaker 4: They traded Jude on Barber's out, They don't have a
Speaker 4: lot of guys that are gonna win one on one matchups.
Speaker 3: So that's what you have to do to get pressure.
Speaker 4: And they didn't get a lot today. But I do
Speaker 4: think at time, you know, this is a play that
Speaker 4: you know why it affects that pass, you know, and
Speaker 4: that's that that leads to an incomplete.
Speaker 3: Pass on a third down. That those are the plays
Speaker 3: they need more of those.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right to your point. I mean, Kristen Ella's
Speaker 8: probably coming in this year special teamer, you know, blitzing
Speaker 8: a special team or on defense.
Speaker 3: You know how many snaps does he play today? You
Speaker 3: shall have it in the morning.
Speaker 5: But he played a lot, played more than I think
Speaker 5: the coaching staff would.
Speaker 8: Has been one of their He's been one of their
Speaker 8: third down covers, linebackers. I mean ever since they lost that.
Speaker 5: Correct let's see the TPX spot line is eight five
Speaker 5: to five Pats five hundred. Eldred in North Carolina has
Speaker 5: been waiting patiently. You're next on the Patriots post game show.
Speaker 10: Eldred.
Speaker 28: Hello, hey.
Speaker 29: Man, Okay, looting courage back. Yeah, I made it to defense.
Speaker 29: But it's like what I saw in North Carolina. He's
Speaker 29: good fat, it's the short step, but he got his
Speaker 29: feet sick. If he's trying to do things, you know,
Speaker 29: But Fred, I'm with you. Let him play, darn it.
Speaker 29: If he makes mistake, learn from him. Just let it.
Speaker 29: Just take your stringing wheel off. I didn't like to
Speaker 29: last two minutes.
Speaker 10: Well, they didn't want to. Like it's I don't know.
Speaker 10: Some coaches would say that's kind of like bad sportsmanship,
Speaker 10: Like you're out of the game and you're still throwing
Speaker 10: the ball and you know, okay, so should we blitz
Speaker 10: your guy and bury him?
Speaker 3: You know, I disagree. Like they were trying too.
Speaker 10: They were running it on first and second down.
Speaker 4: They were in the ball twice on that last drive.
Speaker 4: The rest of we're all passes deep incomplete deep to Douglas,
Speaker 4: short right to Douglas for six yards incomplete short left
Speaker 4: throw away. I know that was the player that he
Speaker 4: just kind of like threw it like that underhand. And
Speaker 4: the last play was a pass to Polk that converted.
Speaker 4: That was a third down play. Like I'm with Fred,
Speaker 4: like I don't want to get him take him unnecessarily
Speaker 4: hits in a game that's that's long since decided.
Speaker 5: Thank you for the call, Eldred in that and let's
Speaker 5: live for another day. I mean the game's out of
Speaker 5: hand at that point in time. Let's move on Tony
Speaker 5: from Canada.
Speaker 3: Your next Uh hit the wrong button. I think that's
Speaker 3: my bad.
Speaker 10: Canada, call back again if you would please.
Speaker 3: You're next on the Patriots post game.
Speaker 30: Saw flame Canada.
Speaker 5: Oh that okay.
Speaker 3: What do you got pat?
Speaker 30: No, that was just that was me. I just gotta
Speaker 30: ask one question about Drake Bay's performance, Like, do you
Speaker 30: think when he came out of the draft, like the
Speaker 30: big thing about him, like a huge selling point was
Speaker 30: he was probably the best quarterback in the draft going
Speaker 30: over the mill. But do you think, like when they
Speaker 30: structure their first and second down offense that still have
Speaker 30: more passes designed to go over the middle, where he's
Speaker 30: probably a lot better in that situation than going to
Speaker 30: the sideline.
Speaker 4: Didn't do the vast majority of the throwers go Thanks
Speaker 4: for the COVID the middle today.
Speaker 8: I thought, so Patty might be drunk. So I'm just
Speaker 8: gonna come.
Speaker 4: That's always there's always a possibility. Yeah, no, I know what,
Speaker 4: but I know what Pat's talking about. I mean, he
Speaker 4: is considered to be very accurate, uh down the middle.
Speaker 4: I thought they tried a lot of passes, a lot
Speaker 4: of crossing routes.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know. Yeah. Some of them were really good,
Speaker 3: like the touchdown a Douglas, and some of them were
Speaker 3: really bad. Yeah.
Speaker 10: I mean that other one where you said Paul Douglas
Speaker 10: had to reach back and catch it. Had that one
Speaker 10: been in front, that might have been.
Speaker 4: I was talking about one that reached back and bounced
Speaker 4: off his hands up into the air.
Speaker 10: But there was another pass like where he actually caught it.
Speaker 10: But if that pass had been in front, he's heading today.
Speaker 8: I'm talking about Freddy. I mean, and I mean need
Speaker 8: so long. Those kinds of places, the ground off the shoelaces,
Speaker 8: these are.
Speaker 4: All over the middle. These are these are the passes
Speaker 4: that we're talking about.
Speaker 5: Those are the ones where I think they're gonna you know,
Speaker 5: he's got to drill down on it because he's got
Speaker 5: those balls. Yeah, you know, fred This is for you.
Speaker 5: I'm going to butcher this. This is from anakin from Tach.
Speaker 5: What's the tatoo? Very good? Thank you, hello, Jens. Yes,
Speaker 5: the outcome was bad. However, this was the most normal
Speaker 5: and efficient the offenses looked all season, even though it
Speaker 5: was inconsistent. May did as well as expected for his
Speaker 5: first start. There is a ton to be hopeful for.
Speaker 8: Well, what's just kind of a hothead to be honest.
Speaker 5: What's the story of the week, Then, what's it going
Speaker 5: to be going forward? There's a ton to be hopeful for,
Speaker 5: or there's going to be the.
Speaker 3: Story of the week. The story will be how how
Speaker 3: I give myself the wonders? Tuesday at noon, now, right.
Speaker 8: That's when we pushed Paul into the corner of like.
Speaker 10: That's it.
Speaker 3: I hate him. He's not not going to do it
Speaker 3: to me about me.
Speaker 10: It's the thing about Paul. If all the fans were
Speaker 10: really really upset today, would.
Speaker 4: I'll give you an example, Like someone tweeted Evan at
Speaker 4: the half ripping May for his footwork on the touchdown
Speaker 4: pass to Booty, Like I think that's absurd. I think
Speaker 4: that is absolutely absurd.
Speaker 3: Like I started the whole, the whole they thought his
Speaker 3: footwork was bad.
Speaker 10: On that guy. The guy that emailed Evan was TC McCartney.
Speaker 10: But that's beside.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 4: But I I spent, like you know what, Matt and
Speaker 4: I came down, we opened the show and we both agreed,
Speaker 4: like there's a lot to be excited about, but like
Speaker 4: we're getting lost in this like efficiency with the offense that.
Speaker 3: Didn't happen today.
Speaker 4: It didn't, but they made some big plays on in
Speaker 4: the passing game that they haven't made. They had over
Speaker 4: a hunt undred more yards passing today than they average
Speaker 4: in the first five games.
Speaker 3: Like that happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like there were enough things that were better today
Speaker 4: to accentuate without making other stuff.
Speaker 5: Up and the bad would you call that progress.
Speaker 3: In some areas? Yeah, they couldn't run the ball worth
Speaker 3: of damn correct.
Speaker 10: And the bad things they can go to the film
Speaker 10: and they can show MEY say, seem Drake, this is
Speaker 10: what we're talking about. This is the stuff we've been
Speaker 10: trying to work with you. But now he's doing it
Speaker 10: in live action. You'll learn faster.
Speaker 4: And I promise that there were also enough plays that
Speaker 4: like just sort of unfolded and the throws were just bad.
Speaker 3: Like, there were enough of those today too. I think people.
Speaker 4: Are just ignoring those, all right, so they're only talking
Speaker 4: about the good ones.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it.
Speaker 5: Took me this long to think of this question for you.
Speaker 5: But just listen to your voice here for a second.
Speaker 3: Are you pissed?
Speaker 5: Do you think that they wasted five games? I'm not pissed,
Speaker 5: you know, but I yes, I don't see why they
Speaker 5: didn't start him earlier. Okay, yeah, that's just me.
Speaker 10: But again, we you know, we talk about this. We've
Speaker 10: been talking about this in September on unfiltered. We don't
Speaker 10: know what the coaches know, Like maybe you know, this
Speaker 10: week he was light years better than he you know,
Speaker 10: light years more ready than he was Week one for
Speaker 10: some reason like whatever. They've been working with him in
Speaker 10: the classroom and maybe in week one, like he had
Speaker 10: absolutely no clue we have we don't know that. I
Speaker 10: doubt it, but it's a possibility, so I'm not That's
Speaker 10: why I'm not pissed.
Speaker 4: So I know that this is this is an unfair
Speaker 4: hypothetical because it's you know, it's impossible. If you if
Speaker 4: he played exactly the way he did today all of
Speaker 4: the other games, the first five games, what do you
Speaker 4: think the record would be.
Speaker 10: If he played exactly the way he played today all
Speaker 10: those games, I think the record they'd be lucky to
Speaker 10: be one in five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so that's that's what I think too, And
Speaker 4: I know that's unfair because I mean, it would stand.
Speaker 10: But all those other games, they didn't have the turnal.
Speaker 4: They were minus three in Eternal, right, Yes, I think
Speaker 4: two and four would be out of the question.
Speaker 10: That's why.
Speaker 3: But I would say, like, you know, to be fair.
Speaker 4: That's why I said it's an unfair hypothetical because anybody
Speaker 4: could rightly expect the guy playing in his first game
Speaker 4: is going to be better in his fifth and sixth game, right, Like,
Speaker 4: that's just natural.
Speaker 3: Progressive hope, you hope.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Now, some guys don't get better, but you hope
Speaker 4: that this guy will get better. It won't turn the
Speaker 4: ball over three times five straight games.
Speaker 3: If that happens.
Speaker 4: Something tells me when we're doing the postgame show after
Speaker 4: the fifth straight game of three turnovers, it's gonna be
Speaker 4: a little bit of a different tune, right right right.
Speaker 5: Harry and Connecticut says that it is within reach. At
Speaker 5: times this game seemed winnable.
Speaker 3: That's a stretch. This game was not winnable from the
Speaker 3: first two drives.
Speaker 10: It was one moment when it what was it twenty
Speaker 10: one to fourteen, where like did make a stop here
Speaker 10: and they didn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't ever that it wasn't there was fourteen seven.
Speaker 4: They immediately made it was twenty one seven. Then twenty
Speaker 4: four to seven.
Speaker 8: You had to come out in the third quarter score
Speaker 8: and play perch.
Speaker 10: It was twenty seven to fourteen at one point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they scored to make it twenty seven fourteen. It
Speaker 4: was twenty seven seven, No.
Speaker 10: I know.
Speaker 3: And the only time that it flickered went out the
Speaker 3: window on the second player of the first second half. Right, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was it, you get it was fourteen seven to
Speaker 3: get the ball or maybe, like I never thought that
Speaker 3: game was in doubt. Once Houston scored twice, bang bang,
Speaker 3: fourteen nothing, game was over right, and Houston thought it too,
Speaker 3: And then they had to go in the locker room
Speaker 3: probably got bitched at by their coach and said, you know,
Speaker 3: in this league, you have to play four quarters. They
Speaker 3: came out and put the game away in the third quarter,
Speaker 3: just to.
Speaker 5: Finish what Harry had to say. I'm happy with May's
Speaker 5: performance today with the service of quarterback play, I hope
Speaker 5: he's more than the service of Well that's me saying
Speaker 5: that it allows the Patriots to better analyze the holes.
Speaker 3: On this team, don't they know?
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think you need to be amos
Speaker 5: Alonzo Stag to analyze the holes on this team.
Speaker 10: Do you No, but I see what he's saying. If
Speaker 10: you have a guy who can actually running run a
Speaker 10: passing offense, yes you can have a little bit better
Speaker 10: evaluation of Booty and the guy Paul doesn't pop, Doug.
Speaker 3: Don't do that.
Speaker 4: Mike had it right though, Like, if you can be
Speaker 4: like all the other teams and have as semblance of
Speaker 4: a passing this is how you need to twenty fight
Speaker 4: in the modern NFL. Mike is right, Like, that's what
Speaker 4: I come away saying. We can be like everybody else.
Speaker 3: Now we don't have to throw for one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty yards and try to win and hope the other
Speaker 3: team pukes on itself so we can win, right.
Speaker 8: Paul, I thought it was funny too.
Speaker 3: This game.
Speaker 8: We haven't really talked about it. So this is kind
Speaker 8: of Paul's anti game with the rushing attack, because it
Speaker 8: was he dide a pretty good job, but like Houston
Speaker 8: just gashed him for a couple of big scoring plays.
Speaker 3: You know, But Mike, you're smart enough to know why
Speaker 3: did Houston win the game?
Speaker 4: What did they do early in the game, how they
Speaker 4: did they established the run or did they just throw
Speaker 4: the balls at the bands?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, three touchdown passes don't boom.
Speaker 5: And the broadcasters, at least at the beginning of the
Speaker 5: game were crediting the patriots ren defense, which wasn't terrible
Speaker 5: out of the shoot when it was fourteen and f thing.
Speaker 4: I'd actually credit those random runs that Houston kept having
Speaker 4: for the reason why it's that it's twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Nothing like Mike and I caught a score. I don't
Speaker 3: like it kept a scoring out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they kept giving the Patriots chances to get off
Speaker 4: the field by running a couple of times and setting
Speaker 4: up third downs.
Speaker 5: Finlay in Scotland writes, despite the blowout, I actually came
Speaker 5: away excited because we have a quarterback that potentially can
Speaker 5: compete at the modern NFL level. I love that Paul
Speaker 5: come on. I in my brain saying they shouldn't be
Speaker 5: on the good or bad list, But Fred is my
Speaker 5: heart saying we.
Speaker 3: Got our guy. All in Cass, I'm in all in Cash,
Speaker 3: I'm in.
Speaker 8: There's a ceiling there that you know you want. You
Speaker 8: want to see him try to get to you know,
Speaker 8: like that's what's exciting. It doesn't feel like every week
Speaker 8: with him. I mean, you know, he's look, he's got
Speaker 8: to progress. But it doesn't feel like even if he
Speaker 8: plays well, it's like everything's got to go perfect around him,
Speaker 8: you know, like there's might be at some point a
Speaker 8: little bit of leeway. You know, maybe, oh we don't
Speaker 8: have a great perfect game. But you know what, he
Speaker 8: can throw forty yard bomb into the end zone that
Speaker 8: that you know, drops right in the bucket and.
Speaker 10: Hey, you know people couldn't see it because we weren't
Speaker 10: on camera. But after that throw at the end of
Speaker 10: the half, you know, we all got up and the
Speaker 10: back and congratulated each other.
Speaker 3: Was actually I put the cigar down.
Speaker 4: I said, we got our guy.
Speaker 8: That was there's no cheering in the press box with
Speaker 8: there was a little light.
Speaker 3: Uh it was under.
Speaker 10: Little little blood, little blood flow.
Speaker 3: There was a little blood there was. There was cheering
Speaker 3: in the press box today.
Speaker 4: Down in the front row, I don't know, if you know,
Speaker 4: I saw that some kids the ball that Schultz dropped
Speaker 4: and Jones caught for the pick in the end zone.
Speaker 4: Some kid, I don't know who he was, like a writer.
Speaker 3: I don't know who it was in the front row.
Speaker 8: He looked young.
Speaker 10: He looked like a young Maybe it was these kids
Speaker 10: on journalism ethics and That's why it's good.
Speaker 8: We're up in the back and no one's looking over.
Speaker 5: One final point from light, which is the understatement of
Speaker 5: the day. Wolf has a mountain of work to do
Speaker 5: in the off season to add talent to this team,
Speaker 5: which is mismatched against almost every team they face.
Speaker 3: True that, but I don't know.
Speaker 8: I mean, like yes, and though I like.
Speaker 5: Who's got a better roster? The Jacksonville Jaguars and the
Speaker 5: new Etoln Patriots next week in London. Mike Jacksonville right,
Speaker 5: probably by leaps and bounds.
Speaker 4: But they also are in a vastly different spot.
Speaker 5: Their owner told them they this is the best team
Speaker 5: in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: They're supposed to be. He's wrong about by the way.
Speaker 4: They're supposed to be battling for a playoff spot, not
Speaker 4: being one and five right the Patriots. I mean, I
Speaker 4: know that sounds awful, But would you think the record
Speaker 4: was going to be when they were going to London?
Speaker 4: Because the best I heard was one in five or zero.
Speaker 8: And six somewhere in that vicinities.
Speaker 5: What are you telling me, Dennis Green? They are with
Speaker 5: the what you thought they are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, I would agree. I think if you matched
Speaker 4: up player for player. I think Jacksonville probably has more talent, yes.
Speaker 8: But like, but if he gets to Patriots year three
Speaker 8: of of Rice and then that's that's that's a fairer cut.
Speaker 10: Before they traded judea on and Barmart you know, was
Speaker 10: out and Bentley was I thought the ceiling for this
Speaker 10: season was going to be six games. That was before
Speaker 10: for all these losses. So like, I'm not, like, I'm
Speaker 10: not beside myself with the record, are you little?
Speaker 5: Do you think the coaches beside himself with the record
Speaker 5: or the staff is beside themselves.
Speaker 4: Don't think they're beside themselves with the record. I think
Speaker 4: they're beside themselves with the state of play.
Speaker 3: Well that's the that's I agree.
Speaker 10: I agree, Like it's.
Speaker 3: Tuesday. Yeah, that's you can be a you could take
Speaker 3: credit for that one. You know, you'll be in my office.
Speaker 10: You can look at your team and say, you know,
Speaker 10: you know, our guys aren't as good as their guys,
Speaker 10: but we don't have to be having false starts. We
Speaker 10: don't have to be making bonehead plays, you know, just
Speaker 10: because our guys, you know, weren't Alabama, you know, first
Speaker 10: round picks.
Speaker 4: I mean second, second time they've been called for the
Speaker 4: legal formation there on the kickoff right second time six games.
Speaker 4: You know, those kinds of things don't require any talent.
Speaker 10: And you know, like on the blog, like people are
Speaker 10: I don't know where they're getting this from, if they're
Speaker 10: from their own insight or whether you know, it's people
Speaker 10: that they're reading or listening to, but they are really
Speaker 10: really hitting our coaching staff hard.
Speaker 3: You know, taking it yep, really.
Speaker 10: And you know, I don't know, but like I don't
Speaker 10: I can't judge them because it's chicken and egg kind
Speaker 10: of thing, like, Okay, the players aren't that good, so
Speaker 10: how can you judge the coaching staff? Oh, the coaching
Speaker 10: staff's not good? How can you judge the player? You know,
Speaker 10: you don't know where to where the blame pie goes.
Speaker 10: But the people in the blog right from the beginning
Speaker 10: of the game really hitting the coaching staff very hard.
Speaker 5: Twenty one accepted penalties in the last two weeks is
Speaker 5: not good.
Speaker 10: Matt Tell's progress.
Speaker 3: You got to see progress from right.
Speaker 5: Guys, Tony and Canada. You're next from the Patriots postgame
Speaker 5: show presented by DraftKings.
Speaker 31: Hello, Tony, hey, guys, Well, of course I'm calling about
Speaker 31: Drake May trying to think of what to say that
Speaker 31: hasn't been said already, but I think that OLVERJ actually
Speaker 31: touched on it. But you know, I think if May
Speaker 31: May has the tendency to let the ball sail on
Speaker 31: him a little bit, especially on the short and intermediate passes.
Speaker 31: The long ball is he's very accurate on. So I'd
Speaker 31: like to see him work on that. One of the
Speaker 31: interceptions he overthrew his receiver. The other one it was deflected,
Speaker 31: but still a high throw. So take away those two
Speaker 31: high throws and those two picks, and I think we'd
Speaker 31: be a lot more optimistic. I'm happy to see Drake
Speaker 31: May in. So that's all I have for today, guys.
Speaker 3: Thanks, And that's a good point.
Speaker 5: And where he missed today, I think he missed high
Speaker 5: by and large.
Speaker 3: He missed high on a lot more than one or two.
Speaker 10: That's all release.
Speaker 8: Yep, that's exactly what we said saw in the preseasons.
Speaker 8: I think we said it on the pregame show that
Speaker 8: that's you know, he misses like that, that's one of
Speaker 8: his things.
Speaker 5: See him from North Carolina, the state of Drake May.
Speaker 5: You're next in the Patriots post game show. Hi, Sam,
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 32: I think great May exceeded expectations today if you look
Speaker 32: at the circumstances, lots of injuries leaving Russia out. Besides May,
Speaker 32: the leading rusher had nineteen yards, He had no Russian
Speaker 32: game to compliment playing a top five defense in the NFL.
Speaker 32: His first start, led the team in rushing, threw for
Speaker 32: more than anybody has, I believe against the Texans all year,
Speaker 32: and really played better against them than Josh Allen did,
Speaker 32: who was nine of thirty and he's the top three quarterback.
Speaker 10: I love it, Joshua, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 4: But yet they scored the same amount of points that
Speaker 4: was Sam. By the way, but I would, you know,
Speaker 4: wholeheartedly agree with Sam. Sorry, I would wholeheardly agree with
Speaker 4: the assessment of May. I think, if you're just asking
Speaker 4: me personally, he exceeded my expectations.
Speaker 5: All Right, we're gonna hear from Drake May in a moment.
Speaker 5: But first let's go to Josh. Even though Fred was
Speaker 5: calling Sam Josh, but let's go to Josh now from Georgia, Josh,
Speaker 5: you're next to the Patriots postgame show.
Speaker 28: Hello, guys, I'm gonna do a little bit of a
Speaker 28: change up here. I have a question about the well,
Speaker 28: a couple of things about the defense, the scheme. Why
Speaker 28: are we playing Mart at safety now when he had
Speaker 28: so much success at linebacker last week? And also where
Speaker 28: is Taki talkie? I know he had that penalty.
Speaker 3: He played a little bit opening kickoff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he played, he played on He played on defense too,
Speaker 4: but Mapu played safety last week too. He played linebacker,
Speaker 4: but he played some safety as well. He's one of
Speaker 4: those versatile guys. Brian Belichick talked about him a little
Speaker 4: bit on Thursday, Mike just you know who. He compared
Speaker 4: him to Fred You'll question okay, you know, and actually
Speaker 4: Mike Reese and I had a nice little sort of
Speaker 4: a too on tag team with Brian. Yeah, he's just
Speaker 4: said like he's kind of an old school He was
Speaker 4: a really athletic linebacker who could cover tight ends and
Speaker 4: do some different things, but you could also move him
Speaker 4: away from the ball a little bit now, he said, specifically,
Speaker 4: like with five for different era of football, where with
Speaker 4: three linebackers on the field all the time. So not
Speaker 4: a perfect comparison, but yeah, he played some linebacker. Joshua,
Speaker 4: You're right last week and I didn't see him as
Speaker 4: much at linebacker today. I thought, for the most part
Speaker 4: he was a little further back. Mike lamented that earlier,
Speaker 4: but Taka Taki was out there getting his v wet. Yeah,
Speaker 4: first game back. Okay, thanks for the call, Joshua.
Speaker 5: How about that A Belichick with a historical perspective on
Speaker 5: a player, who would have guess that I.
Speaker 4: And you know that the two thousand and one Patriots
Speaker 4: are for Brian and Steven are going to be Bill's
Speaker 4: eighty six Johns ex That's.
Speaker 3: Right, right, that's good.
Speaker 8: I would just say to that last call, I don't
Speaker 8: know how effective he actually was at linebacker last week.
Speaker 8: I think it was more just liking seeing him.
Speaker 3: Play there, the fact that he was out there.
Speaker 10: You know, I just.
Speaker 8: Again, I don't want to hammer Ray Kwon McMillan and
Speaker 8: you know both line Tavai being forced to play entirely inside,
Speaker 8: But it's just they don't have answers inside right now,
Speaker 8: those inside linebackers.
Speaker 5: Well, the topic du jour has been the play of
Speaker 5: Drake May and the Patriots forty one to twenty one loss.
Speaker 5: It was the regular season first start for Drake May.
Speaker 5: Let's go to the podium and listen to the Patriots quarterback.
Speaker 10: I think, you know, we just.
Speaker 19: Hurt ourselvesselve today. I think that's the biggest thing. I
Speaker 19: think we put the defense in bad, bad spots, and
Speaker 19: you know, with how good our defense is, we can't
Speaker 19: that's the that's the least thing we can do. You know,
Speaker 19: we can't give him when the balls in the red
Speaker 19: zone give him the other team the ball in the
Speaker 19: red zone just makes it hard on him. And you know,
Speaker 19: it starts with me and I think you know has
Speaker 19: some throws back and especially you know the first interception. Yeah,
Speaker 19: but after the touchdown, you feel like coming you're back
Speaker 19: in it, come out of halftime and it goes you know,
Speaker 19: you know, no turnover in the red zone. So just
Speaker 19: uh kept on, you know, hurting ourselves. And you know
Speaker 19: in this league, you know, these teams are too good
Speaker 19: to do that. And you know, with some great stuff
Speaker 19: to watch on film, you know, some times out there
Speaker 19: was it was a lot of fun on offense. So
Speaker 19: and so I told the guys in the whole the end, man,
Speaker 19: we got the guys in the huddle, we just gotta
Speaker 19: make a few few more plays and you can play
Speaker 19: complimentary football. Also, you know, coach Mayo just preached play
Speaker 19: complmentary football.
Speaker 3: We didn't do that.
Speaker 6: Today, Drake.
Speaker 26: As the game went on, did you feel it kind
Speaker 26: of slowed down for you, you know, in the pocket
Speaker 26: making decisions?
Speaker 19: Yeah, you know, I was a little ampt amped at
Speaker 19: the start, for sure. I think, you know, the biggest
Speaker 19: thing is having those guys around me. You know, they're great,
Speaker 19: you know, pump me up, coaches defense. You know, the
Speaker 19: guys around me were great trying to settle me down,
Speaker 19: and Jacobe it was a big part of that. Seld
Speaker 19: me down the sideline and you know, pre game, so
Speaker 19: kind of once you got that first drive and it
Speaker 19: was three and out and I'm probably have checked it
Speaker 19: down on the under. But uh, just some stuff you know,
Speaker 19: look back and learn from. But now I also feel
Speaker 19: like we did some good things.
Speaker 6: So Drake, you mentioned the interception, the first one.
Speaker 3: What sort of happened there would take us through?
Speaker 19: Yeah, uh, you know, pretty you know, pretty simple, you know,
Speaker 19: pop over the middle, and you hit him a few
Speaker 19: other times and wasn't that last time where he scored
Speaker 19: that I hit him in stride, So just gonna make
Speaker 19: better throws. You missed a little high and you can't
Speaker 19: miss high over the middle. You know in this league,
Speaker 19: that's what they always say, you can't miss high over
Speaker 19: the middle, and you know, tip balls on the second
Speaker 19: one turn and you know interceptions.
Speaker 3: Drake drug Mana just called it an encouraging performance on offense.
Speaker 3: A lot that came in the second half. What wasn't
Speaker 3: better for you guys in the second half than the
Speaker 3: first half.
Speaker 19: Yeah, you know we preach you know, abps, preaching fast starts,
Speaker 19: and you know, I wouldn't say it's you know, very
Speaker 19: you know, please them when you start off with the
Speaker 19: you know, turn over in the red zone to start
Speaker 19: start the second half and start off with three and
Speaker 19: out in the first game, I mean first first drivet.
Speaker 19: So you know, little things like that that we we're
Speaker 19: emphasizing on offense and we just haven't been able to execute.
Speaker 19: I think this's the things that come back here, you
Speaker 19: know what we're emphasizing, and you know, starts with me.
Speaker 19: We need to execute. But kind of got going there
Speaker 19: a little bit, made some thros. The guys made some
Speaker 19: plays and you know we got like I said, we've
Speaker 19: got those guys. We've got you know, guys that can
Speaker 19: make plays and ohod lines up there battling, battling their
Speaker 19: butt off and getting injured, towing back and always checking
Speaker 19: on me. So those guys, you know, fight their butts
Speaker 19: off tonight.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: Even Gerard was saying when he was up here that
Speaker 7: you took some big hits first full sixty minutes from
Speaker 7: you in the NFL as a quarterback. How are you
Speaker 7: feeling physically after the fascality of today's game.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think you know, hoo'ston who dextly a good
Speaker 19: football team. They had good defense and they got some
Speaker 19: good guys in the edge and up front, good guys
Speaker 19: in the back end. So you know, it's a good
Speaker 19: test for us. Like I said, I think you're right there.
Speaker 19: A couple times in the game we were calling back
Speaker 19: and we really just offensively, you know, put defense at
Speaker 19: a bad spot. So I feel all right. I think
Speaker 19: you know you're playing quarterback in the NFL. You know
Speaker 19: you're gonna be store the next day. You know it's
Speaker 19: part of it, and probably need to do a better
Speaker 19: job of getting down or or throwing it away. And
Speaker 19: I think it took a couple of sacks maybe today
Speaker 19: where I could have thrown away or your throw check
Speaker 19: down staff you know, getting a sack and step up.
Speaker 24: Trake, you mentioned you were amped at the beginning before
Speaker 24: settling down. What was the sideline like when you were
Speaker 24: coming back.
Speaker 22: What were some of the conversations you were having, and
Speaker 22: how is Jacobi helping during that time if at all.
Speaker 19: Yeah, you know, he's saying, we're good, We're good.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 19: And they went down there, you know, and scored on
Speaker 19: theirs possess so puts a littleressure on you. I think
Speaker 19: it's always a little pressure when they, you know, score
Speaker 19: for to make a seven to zero. So just settle
Speaker 19: down and trust the guys around me. And uh, you know,
Speaker 19: you gotta be able run the football little bit too.
Speaker 19: I think you know we preached that and you'll run
Speaker 19: the football in this league? Is how you open getting
Speaker 19: in Uh, you know, third and longer and third and
Speaker 19: long too much. I feel like today and it starts
Speaker 19: with me and you know, making better throws them and
Speaker 19: decisions on first and second down.
Speaker 24: Drake Wednesday mentioned this is a dream for you to
Speaker 24: get your first NFL start. What was dislike from from
Speaker 24: that perspective and also how do you self evaluate overall
Speaker 24: as to you know, how today went compared to what
Speaker 24: you wanted to achieve.
Speaker 19: You know, shout out the fans, and you know, I
Speaker 19: thought they were great. You know, you gave me goosebumps
Speaker 19: run out there the first time in this staid you know,
Speaker 19: you know, basically almost the whole way through cheering, and
Speaker 19: you know, it was pretty sweet to be out there
Speaker 19: in the reds. But like I said, I think now
Speaker 19: you don't didn't come out with the win, and that's
Speaker 19: kind of the goal, especially in your first start. You
Speaker 19: want to come out with the win. That's pretty something,
Speaker 19: pretty special. So I got to be able to you know,
Speaker 19: watch the tape and learn from it and and bounce
Speaker 19: back and to get a long flight so get ready
Speaker 19: for playing overseas.
Speaker 33: Yeah, along those lines. Uh, there's no denying this is
Speaker 33: one of the biggest days in your life. I mean,
Speaker 33: that's that's that's a fact. Uh, it's also a fact
Speaker 33: that your team lost convincingly. Uh what are those emotions like,
Speaker 33: I mean, you're gonna be getting texts from friends, family
Speaker 33: who don't take the loss into account of what's going
Speaker 33: on right now in terms of the conflicting emotions.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think you know, first fore most is just blessed,
Speaker 19: don't think the good Lord. You know, I'm in a
Speaker 19: great spot, you know, with the Patriots here and you know,
Speaker 19: playing your quarterback in the NFL, and most of my
Speaker 19: friends and family after a loss, you know, they're still
Speaker 19: you know word more about the loss than uh than
Speaker 19: kind of encouraging plays. That's kind of the people I'm around,
Speaker 19: and we care about winning and just hate losing. So
Speaker 19: that's the big thing. I think there's some good things
Speaker 19: to take away from it, you know today and and
Speaker 19: I think, you know, I think back to coach with
Speaker 19: coach may have got to play companary football and we
Speaker 19: haven't done.
Speaker 6: That in the front.
Speaker 27: Drake, can you describe your mindset during the two minute
Speaker 27: drill before halftime?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 27: Looked like you were able to try to fit some
Speaker 27: passes into some tight windows there. Did Did that maybe
Speaker 27: help you settle into a little.
Speaker 19: Bit I think two minutes, but two minutes of time,
Speaker 19: it's it's a great time for you know, quarterback to
Speaker 19: kind of get some passes and get some plays you
Speaker 19: know that we're comfortable with, you know, under my belt,
Speaker 19: and it's a lot easier, you know, in two minutes.
Speaker 19: You know, then practice when you know the guys actually
Speaker 19: come back there and tackle me in the back. So
Speaker 19: I be able to make some plays. And you know,
Speaker 19: Booty made a great play. And those guys, you know,
Speaker 19: I think pop down the sideline. That's, you know, great
Speaker 19: play on his part. And just get the guys the ball.
Speaker 19: And that's the biggest thing I got to do. I
Speaker 19: think you'll give them the ball and let him make plays.
Speaker 19: You know, you saw Hunter, you know on a flat route.
Speaker 19: You know early on we're backed up, you know, make
Speaker 19: make guy missed, get a first down. So well, things
Speaker 19: like that to get the ball on my hands and
Speaker 19: get into those guys that make a lot of money
Speaker 19: that getting paid to, you'll get first downs.
Speaker 9: Trey right here, could you just walk us through your
Speaker 9: forty yard touchdown pass to Jalen Polk and doing it
Speaker 9: in a game as opposed to a practice. How much
Speaker 9: did that help your confidence today? You had a you mean, Booty,
Speaker 9: I'm sorry to Booty. Yeah, you're good. No, I think
Speaker 9: you know, pressed up. I think we gotta give the jazz.
Speaker 9: You got to give him a chance. That's the kind
Speaker 9: of my thought process, give them a chance. I thought,
Speaker 9: you know, kind of the text was kind of squating
Speaker 9: us a little bit. They came out and challenged us
Speaker 9: and played a man, so try to you know, let
Speaker 9: one ride.
Speaker 19: And give us, give Booty a chance and many nice
Speaker 19: play and it's pretty cool, you know, I think both
Speaker 19: of our first touchdowns, so pretty cool moment.
Speaker 3: And you know fight.
Speaker 19: You know, in this group you can push the ball
Speaker 19: down the field and make plays in the passing game.
Speaker 19: So just gotta keep repping it and see what you like.
Speaker 19: And I gotta make throws. That's the bottom line. Make
Speaker 19: barre throws.
Speaker 5: And there's your Patriots quarterback today. The talk oh the town,
Speaker 5: Drake May you want to analyze the presser?
Speaker 3: How do you think you looked?
Speaker 10: And what do you think of this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean everything you want you want you want
Speaker 8: to hear about taking accountability? Uh, talking about want to
Speaker 8: get the win. You know, acknowledging the mistakes and the
Speaker 8: spots where they put their team is just in a
Speaker 8: bad spot.
Speaker 10: So you know, just good job.
Speaker 8: I mean I think a lot of these kids, I
Speaker 8: mean I felt similar with some of the you know,
Speaker 8: bad games we've had seen in years past. They know
Speaker 8: how to take accountability.
Speaker 3: So that was good with it.
Speaker 8: I was good with any understands. It's not good enough,
Speaker 8: and it's it's got to get better and hopefully that's
Speaker 8: what direction on the head.
Speaker 10: Buckley kind of. I think it was Buckley that was
Speaker 10: asking the question, but I would have liked to know, like,
Speaker 10: in a weird way, did you enjoy yourself today?
Speaker 4: Like you know, yeah, yeah, that's that. I think that
Speaker 4: is what buck was trying to ask. I think so
Speaker 4: mixed emotions.
Speaker 3: I know you lost.
Speaker 4: I know you're disappointed, but yeah, you got a chance
Speaker 4: to playing your first NFL game. You had some success, right.
Speaker 8: You know, you feel like you feel you feel like
Speaker 8: his brothers are like, so, dude, I mean three turnovers's probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question he did.
Speaker 10: He did say, you know, on a lot of when
Speaker 10: he was talking about the negatives, it starts with me,
Speaker 10: you know, And that's accountability.
Speaker 3: For sure, but from your quarterback.
Speaker 6: But I if I was.
Speaker 10: Coaching him, I would say, when you're talking about the negative,
Speaker 10: I not we. This is this is the rule. When
Speaker 10: it's bad, I did it, When it's good, we did it,
Speaker 10: And when it's great, they did it. You know, that's
Speaker 10: the rule. So when you're talking about negatives, it's I,
Speaker 10: you know, leave the we out.
Speaker 3: Is that a fredism or.
Speaker 10: I think it's Paul Brown. Okay.
Speaker 3: Much like much like everything else, it originated elsewhere. I
Speaker 3: like it, Okay.
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Speaker 5: out there at surface dot com. Uh, this is another
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Speaker 23: This is.
Speaker 5: Do I have a name Damon from Shrewsbury, England, not Shrewsbury, Massachusetts,
Speaker 5: who claims that he broke out the Zoe versus Saints
Speaker 5: impression on the first touchdown pass.
Speaker 3: That's your quarterback, Zoe Bonies.
Speaker 5: That's the beef, that was the what's that stiff's name,
Speaker 5: Kemberrell Tompkins who caught the ball from Brady when they
Speaker 5: beat the Scents. This guy eleven years ago to Damon,
Speaker 5: is saying that he went that's our quarterback after May's
Speaker 5: touchdown to Booty.
Speaker 33: I like that.
Speaker 3: Excited for a weekend in London.
Speaker 5: I don't want to sit through a one hundred and
Speaker 5: twenty yards zero touchdown passing game next weekend.
Speaker 3: Not perfect, but it's more fun. Yep. Here's the fans
Speaker 3: sentiment of the day, right yeah, yeah, And I'm with
Speaker 3: the fan who knew Fred Man of the people, I'm
Speaker 3: with the fans. I'm with the funds.
Speaker 10: Paul red Zone Paul twenty seven to three Lions over Cowboys.
Speaker 10: Could McCarthy be walked out of the of the game.
Speaker 3: I just think they have so many injuries. It's it's tough.
Speaker 10: He gets a pass.
Speaker 4: He might, but you know, there's no excuse for only
Speaker 4: having three points. Yeah, I mean you got Dak Prescott
Speaker 4: and Ceede Lamb. You should have more than three points
Speaker 4: on the board, especially against the defense like Detroit.
Speaker 3: So's just average at best. Fred.
Speaker 5: Does Doug Peterson get the you have the privilege to
Speaker 5: coach the Jaguars against the Patriots?
Speaker 3: Does he get to stay in London for the week
Speaker 3: or do they send him home?
Speaker 10: On people were thinking that he might get the hook.
Speaker 5: So if you're thinking about it this week, the Patriots
Speaker 5: could maybe put a nail in that coffin.
Speaker 10: You lose next week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a tough one.
Speaker 10: We're supposed to be you know, London's supposed to be
Speaker 10: like your second home. And you lose both games, You're
Speaker 10: not going.
Speaker 8: To spare the fan base there to root for you
Speaker 8: if you can't win.
Speaker 5: But Brendan and Edmonton writes, fill in the blank, this
Speaker 5: is the worst Patriots rasta since.
Speaker 3: God, I don't know, do twenty twenty?
Speaker 10: Yeah, twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 10: You don't think there were bad rosters in like the
Speaker 10: nineties and you know, early ninetientes.
Speaker 3: The worst since twenty twenty, twenty twenty was was not
Speaker 3: the worst of all time.
Speaker 8: I think it was also that I saw a stat
Speaker 8: somewhere on Twitter that was the last time they gave
Speaker 8: up like back to back one hundred and fifty yard
Speaker 8: plus whatever it is for the real games. So, I mean,
Speaker 8: we said it this summer. It was once those injuries
Speaker 8: started happened. It feels a lot like that defense in
Speaker 8: twenty twenty, where you had a lot of fill ins
Speaker 8: and guys who weren't really going to be part of things.
Speaker 8: I mean, I think the offense is a little bit
Speaker 8: different and that you have some young pieces that you're
Speaker 8: hope and grow. Like you didn't really have a d
Speaker 8: Mario Douglas on the team back then. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 8: you know guy it was it was kind of who
Speaker 8: was that guy who played outside corner, gie, outside receiver.
Speaker 8: I'm totally banking on his name.
Speaker 3: The oh they have really forget about Kobe Myers.
Speaker 8: Was was a good Yeah, that's actually that's a good point.
Speaker 3: Good point, and they I mean Edelman was kind of
Speaker 3: done it. That was there. He got banged up and yeah,
Speaker 3: played like five. Yeah, it wasn't as productive that year.
Speaker 8: But I think twenty twenty is a good woman it
Speaker 8: was that was that.
Speaker 3: Was a roster that was similar to this. That roster struggled.
Speaker 8: But I think the quarterback is the big difference though.
Speaker 8: That's you know, you have Cam Newton at the end
Speaker 8: of it, when you know now you have a young
Speaker 8: quarterback that and that that's the biggest difference to me.
Speaker 5: Here's my question to you, Michael. I know you probably
Speaker 5: haven't started a crack open. What is that guy's name,
Speaker 5: Dane Buglers the Beast his draft book, But here's my question.
Speaker 5: A little bit regardless of where you're picking, but assuming
Speaker 5: you're going to be in the top five, maybe top five,
Speaker 5: certainly top ten. It looks like trending in that direction.
Speaker 5: The best defensive lineman available versus the best offensive lineman available,
Speaker 5: best offensive.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I think it's interesting this week.
Speaker 3: I mean, and I don't know that I would be
Speaker 3: so quick to say that answer Fred. I would with Fred.
Speaker 8: I think it's interesting because this week there were some
Speaker 8: reports out from Jordan Reid from ESPN that talking to
Speaker 8: people around the league, there isn't really a strong consensus
Speaker 8: there's a top ten tackle anymore. As much as everybody
Speaker 8: wanted to talk about Will Campbell offensive tackle, offensive offensive tackle.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, if you wanted to tell me there's an
Speaker 4: edge guy, Yeah, that's like a dynamic that's rusher.
Speaker 10: If the guy's available.
Speaker 5: But whoever, I should have been, I should have been more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now I'd rather have I would rather have a tackle.
Speaker 4: But if I'm like, I don't know, if there's like
Speaker 4: a game wrecker von Miller, Like if von Miller's in
Speaker 4: this draft class, then I would I would certainly think
Speaker 4: about that. But that's like, that's a dynamic, athletic right
Speaker 4: edge guy. Pevon Thibodeau a couple of years ago was
Speaker 4: like the fifth pick.
Speaker 3: I think Will Anderson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, those kinds of guys I would think about.
Speaker 4: I don't think those aren't defensive linemen.
Speaker 12: No.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 4: If it should have been more clear, no, but that's
Speaker 4: that's I just wanted to make it clear. Like if
Speaker 4: people are listening, like Paul doesn't want no, I would
Speaker 4: absolutely be with Matt.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I would absolutely with Matt. But if there's a
Speaker 10: blue chip talent available, take him. Yeah, whatever position.
Speaker 8: I think that there might be that kind of player.
Speaker 8: But I mean, I just I look at it. There's
Speaker 8: what five key positions to me in the NFL you
Speaker 8: need to check the boxes of it's wide receiver, quarterback,
Speaker 8: defensive end, cornerback, and uh and left tackle. And I
Speaker 8: think they have one of them in the cornerback, and
Speaker 8: I think they might have the two of the corner
Speaker 8: So you got to find the other three. You gotta
Speaker 8: find an edge rusher who can who's a game changer.
Speaker 8: You got to find that left tackle, and you got
Speaker 8: to find that number one receipt and you get those
Speaker 8: three more pieces. That's why when the kids have said
Speaker 8: something about the rebuild, it's like, Okay, well you might
Speaker 8: have two of the five. You might have two with
Speaker 8: the five, and I don't think it's crazy to think
Speaker 8: that you can find potentially those other three in one
Speaker 8: off seas.
Speaker 3: We got a lot of time for draft picks, a lot.
Speaker 10: It might be that's a lot of time for draft prep.
Speaker 5: Mic, But I'm gonna ask you this because you brought
Speaker 5: it up, because I think the fans would definitely wide
Speaker 5: receiver or left tackle.
Speaker 10: Again, if one of them's a blue chipper, you take
Speaker 10: that Travis Hunter from Colorado left tackle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't even say to me, it's not even
Speaker 4: a decision like you I as you know, I'm like
Speaker 4: an offensive.
Speaker 10: Lineist, right, right, do that on your own time.
Speaker 4: You cannot function an offense correct until they get some
Speaker 4: semblance of pass protection.
Speaker 33: Right.
Speaker 4: It's so like I always say, like it's never going
Speaker 4: to be that bad, Well, this year it's been that bad.
Speaker 4: Like every three dropbacks, they have absolutely no chance to
Speaker 4: complete a pass. And until that changes, I don't care
Speaker 4: if you have Travis Hunter or or you know whoever
Speaker 4: else out there. Do you need to find a way
Speaker 4: to shore up your offensive line now? If there's not,
Speaker 4: if Mike's right, if Will Campbell's no longer at top
Speaker 4: ten pick, then trade down.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. That's what I
Speaker 8: was gonna say. If you're at three overall and there
Speaker 8: isn't that generational pass rusher or generational tackle, now this
Speaker 8: lines up to trade down you got. This is supposedly
Speaker 8: a pretty good depth wise edge rusher draft. So if
Speaker 8: you could hit Will Campbell at ten and then maybe
Speaker 8: near the end of the first you're gonna get another guy,
Speaker 8: and then you've still got your other pick early in
Speaker 8: the second round. I mean that's you know, now you're
Speaker 8: really talking. It's not quite what Houston did last year,
Speaker 8: but it's in the same universe of hitting on multiple
Speaker 8: top round kind of kids that you need.
Speaker 5: As we wind down, let's go to Mike on the
Speaker 5: Jersey Shore. You'll be the last caller this evening. Mike,
Speaker 5: Welcome to the Patriots postgame Show presented by DraftKings.
Speaker 34: Hello Mike, Hey guys, So I'll make it quick since
Speaker 34: it's the end. So I think everybody's kind of had
Speaker 34: the census what you saw from the quarterback, which I
Speaker 34: think we should have seen on Day one. So my
Speaker 34: question to you guys, and I'm gonna leave it at
Speaker 34: this What are the next two things you want to
Speaker 34: see with them the next week going forward? Tell me
Speaker 34: two things that you think he needs that you want
Speaker 34: to see him improve on.
Speaker 5: Great question, and I can handle at least one of them.
Speaker 10: Accurate, ac accurate, and don't turn it over.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's it. Sky Lest passes and turn them all over.
Speaker 4: I would say I'd like to see him make more
Speaker 4: plays that aren't the first read and less plays with
Speaker 4: his legs.
Speaker 3: He set a bar. It was exciting.
Speaker 5: They lose forty one to twenty one of the Patriots
Speaker 5: due to the Houston Texans, But Drake May set a
Speaker 5: bar now. I think the expectation is we want to
Speaker 5: see improvement every single week.
Speaker 8: And put down on the coaching staff overall as developed
Speaker 8: of that development. We need a team to start for
Speaker 8: the most critical mistakes, and we especially need Drake May
Speaker 8: to make them progress.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: The Patriots lose today to drop to one and five.
Speaker 5: They lose to the Houston Texans, who go to five
Speaker 5: and one on the year by a forty one to
Speaker 5: twenty one score in in a relatively impressive debut for
Speaker 5: Drake May. That'll do it for us here at Julette Stadium,
Speaker 5: for Chris Judge and for Josh Davis, for Matt Morele,
Speaker 5: Matt Lapan, Paul Parrillo, Fred Kursch, Tamara Brown, and Mike
Speaker 5: do So. I'm Matt Smith. Have a great week, everybody.
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