WEBVTT - Patriots Postgame Show 10/13: Texans Recap, Evaluating Drake Maye's Performance and Injury Updates 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:04.880 This episode at the Patriots Postgame Show is presented by 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:05.600 Draft Kings. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.800 This is the Patriots Postgame Show, presented by DraftKings. 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.280 First post dive for the episode Touchdown. 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.040 Patriots join the conversation by calling the eighth Ticket hotline 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.880 at eight to five five Patch five hundred or email 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.959 the show at web radio at Patriots dot com. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:24.640 And off to Stevenson. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.120 Well, that's a big hole across the Morty cuts left 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:29.920 for five at steam Rolls the Defender. 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.920 There live from our studios inside ju Lett Stadium. 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.599 Here's Matt Smith Ian. Good afternoon everyone. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.920 Thank you for joining us on the Patriots Postgame Show, 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.320 which is brought to you by Draft Kings. Patriot's Post 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.200 Post Shame is postgame shows presented by DraftKings. Matt Smith 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.760 alongside with Paul Prillo, We will be joined by Mike 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.760 Dusaut and likely Fred Kirsch. The Patriots lose today to 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.000 the Houston Texans. It's the Texans first ever win here 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.600 in Fox ro Chelette Stadium. They lose by score forty 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.120 one to twenty one. Paul, I have a feeling that 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.200 most of the conversation will be generated not really about 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.600 the outcome today, but by the player quarterback, give me 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:08.399 an instant analysis. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:09.760 I couldn't agree with you more. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:14.000 I would expect to see two hours of talk about 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.840 the quarterback, not necessarily the game. I think there were 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.400 certainly a lot of things that we feared about putting 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.920 a rookie quarterback in too soon. But you also saw 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.040 why people were so excited. There were enough plays to 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.360 have you. You know, it's one of those if you're 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.080 a if you're a hack golfer like me, Matt, and 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.720 you just have that one birdie or that one shot 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:39.040 that keeps you coming back. There were those plays today 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.640 that you saw him make and you said, that's why 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:43.839 he was the third overall pick. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:49.000 Reason for excitement. Okay, so he threw three touchdown passes. 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:49.360 He did. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.760 That's on the good side of the ledger for sure. 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:58.160 He turned it over three times, and yeah he did. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.520 Yeah, so turn it over three right, So the realest 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.320 in me, you know, I want to get excited to Paul, 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:04.800 I don't want to I want to dump on I 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.520 don't want to dump on everybody who's going to be 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.160 happy about it today. But you can also see, and 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:10.959 I think you just said that why people say, let's 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.040 hold off because he can be careless with the football. 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:14.440 He can be electric with the. 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.680 Football, he can be careless with the football, and they 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.040 need to try to learn that out of him, right. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.040 Yeah, And I think that's what we're talking about. And 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:26.079 like the excitement comes from the bar where the bar 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.000 is right, Like it's his first ever start, so you're 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.639 you're glombing onto the accentuating the positive plays. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:33.120 You know. 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:34.480 The bomb to Booty was awesome. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.119 Yeah, you know, at the end of the half, it's 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.440 probably lit some excitement in this place that I don't 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.079 know if we've seen since that last second touchdown against 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.640 Buffalo last year. Like you have to go back that 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.400 far right, you know, for that kind of excitement and 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.400 do that. And this, I mean, this throw is just perfect. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:53.480 It's beautiful, and this is you know, this is a 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.000 lot of things to be excited about. Obviously we're going 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.440 to talk a lot about Drake May, but it's Kasehan 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.160 Boody beating Derek Stingley outside and he beats them. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:02.200 I mean, he beats them clean. 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:06.960 It's one on one and the whole very easy to defend, 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.760 goes out the window on a play like this. So yeah, 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.040 I thought there were enough of those kinds of things 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.359 during the course of the day that well, you know, 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:16.920 you know, we're gonna do the good, the bad, and 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.200 the injured will probably wait till Mike comes down. Sure, 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.080 I didn't have Drake May on on any list today. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.840 I think that's a perfect spot to put him in. 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:25.680 But I was in the middle. 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.760 But I would say I come away personally far more 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:35.520 enthused and excited, probably than I anticipated being there were 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:37.480 there were enough good plays. There were more than just 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.200 one or two, Like, there were enough really good plays 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.000 that you can see it like he's he's got something. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.080 Now he's gonna have to harness it, because you're right 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.920 about the turnovers, Matt. But yeah, I I came away 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.839 pretty pretty excited about some of the things that I saw. 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:53.520 Just one thing to point out on a touchdown to 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.080 Booty to Paul and May said it as they were 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.040 going into the locker room at halftime on an offensive 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.720 line that I you can't even call it patchwork anymore. 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.560 It's so h discombobulated. But he had a clean pot 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.800 pocket on that play, one of the rare times he 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.120 did in the game, and they took advantage of it, 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.200 you know, which was really nice to the whole operation 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:12.800 of that play. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.280 And that's what's gonna happen. It was a professional football play, 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:16.960 and you're right, but that's what's gonna happen. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.200 They're gonna see a lot of pressure because teams are 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.080 gonna look at it and say that they can't protect 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.479 and they're gonna come after you know, Houston. Houston really 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.160 came after him in the first half and made him, 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:27.600 made him real uncomfortable. 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:35.359 Yeah, yeah, it looked like he I thought he showed 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.440 some poison spite of all that, Paul, you know, he 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.120 didn't look flustered, he didn't look that one. 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.600 I'm I'm not as I'm not as convinced on that. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.120 I thought there were times he kind of looked exactly 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:46.280 the way you would expect. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.159 Here in the head you running around. 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.280 I thought he, you know, like sort of missing some 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.840 some up you know, not necessarily the opportunities, but like 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.560 you know, kind of looking at the rush a little bit. 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.080 I mean again, things that I would absolutely expect in 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.960 the first first start, Like mac Jones. I remember like 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:06.600 one of the first passes that it might have been 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.159 the first pass he attempted as a pro. He threw 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.200 the ball backwards, so you know, like these things happen 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.400 to young, young quarterbacks. Like I said, I come away, 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.120 I'm not being blind. I'm not trying to be like 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.320 this is sunshine with Patriots. I'm not trying to do that. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:24.200 I saw the things. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.680 That people are worried about, but I saw enough things 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.360 that I'm excited about that I'm accentuating those today. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.440 Okay, Mike Dusau joins us now Mike instant analysis. The 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.240 Patriots lose forty one to twenty one. But as I 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.360 said to Paul when we started, I don't think many 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:37.760 people are gonna be talking about the game in this 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:38.440 postgame show. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.360 I think it's going to be reserved for the quarterback. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.320 Yeah, I would. I would echo you know someone what 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.760 Paul said. I think that there's the foundation of an 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.880 actual NFL offense out there, or you know, at least 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.720 an NFL quarterback. Some of the throws that he made, 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.400 or you know, like we talked about this summer. You 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.200 see the arm strength, I mean, the impressive throw on 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:58.560 the touchdown. You know that that's encouraging. But end of 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:02.080 the day, that the turnovers, the mistakes, the untimely plays 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.200 by the defense where you know, just a weird kind 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.039 of day where they're pretty stout against the run and 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.080 then you know, a couple big touchdown runs really hurt them. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.719 So inconsistent on that side of the ball. I was 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.679 just really frustrated by the start. In the third quarter, 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.839 you felt good, you kind of ended well, it's all 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:17.360 of a sudden, it's fourteen seven. I mean, I felt 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:18.880 like it should have been made twenty eight to seven. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.080 But somehow you get out of that first half fourteen 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.800 seven and you know, to go out, they missed the 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.200 face mask boom, it's twenty one seven. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:26.720 Just like that. 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.240 It's just it's just, you know, really really hard to 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.520 overcome when you have four turnovers like that. But like 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.479 I said, I think you have there's a little bit 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.599 of a spark there and something that I don't know 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.239 if I would have said it back in twenty twenty 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.720 one with that offense, where it just felt like, even 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.680 in success, sometimes it felt like this is gonna be grind. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.600 It's always got to be perfect. You know, they got 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.720 a ways to go, but there's a little bit there, 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.919 and I think that kid's gonna make this season you know, 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.000 more exciting, more interesting to watch for sure. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.800 Okay, So Paul says he's excited, Matt says he's excited. 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.240 Mike says he's excited. They're one in five. I think 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.159 this is a tough spot for the coach and the 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.000 coaching staff to be and because I think you're gonna 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.120 see some you're gonna hear and see some general enthusiasm 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.760 around this team. They lost by twenty and deservedly so, 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.200 because they were careless with the football. The last when 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.280 I stopped keeping track, it was nine penalties for fifty 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:17.120 yards more sloppy football play. How do you balance the 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.240 fact that your team's not good enough to do shoot 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.360 yourself in the foot all the time with the fact 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.760 that you might keyword might have found something in the quarterback. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:27.280 Yeah, I mean you just have to accept that that 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.200 it's going to take time. And I think that's what's 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.440 on display. We knew that coming into the season. I 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.960 think it's harder to swallow that when you're watching a 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.920 veteran quarterback who isn't the rookie going out there and 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.160 you know, yeah, so we're zero and one with Drake 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.000 May And I think if you look at it that way, 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.160 you know, I honestly I would say right now, like 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.320 my bigges bigger concern is just like the defense is 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.600 so up and down. You know, it just goes from 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.080 you know, they can't get anything right too. Then they 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:52.680 force a couple of punts, and you know it's just 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.200 it's hard to really feel like the defense that has 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:56.200 any kind of consistence. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.720 I thought that, yeah, because I that's a great point, Mike, 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.160 because I thought they were like I wouldn't say this 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.960 was a great defensive game, but they were also putting 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.240 some tough spots and handled some of them, some of 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:12.960 them reasonably well. Seventeen turnovers, you can't you you can't 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:18.160 like sort of overlook the like the first drive like 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.400 a hot knife, and you know, this is kind of 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.000 becoming a little bit of a trend where the other 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.560 team gets the ball to started. You know, one of 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.680 Miami's best drives last week was the first drive of 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.680 the game too, and they had nothing offensively. I don't 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.560 think the Patriots played well defensively today, but I also 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.680 think it could have been worse because of some of 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.400 the spots they were put in. Now, you know, I 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.280 think the Texans kind of helped out a little bit. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.600 I think Stroud. 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:46.040 Missed an easy touchdown to to Dalton Schultz in the 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.840 in the end zone and was late and uh short 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.000 on the throw and that you know, caused Schultz to 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.160 not catch it. He had two hands on it. It's 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:56.960 got to catch it. He didn't, and then it pops 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.400 up in the air ends up being an interception. Great play, 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:03.719 a great awareness, good coverage by Mapu, you know, to 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:05.920 get to scrabble back into the play in a great 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.920 play by Marcus Jones. But I just thought there were 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.640 too many times where okay, if they can just get 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.600 a stop here and it's third and five, and it's 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.280 so easy, you know, on some of those key spots 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:19.800 third like this is what I mean. Like, I don't 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.840 think they were terrible defensively today third downs, Like you know, 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.319 Houston was four to eleven. It's not terrible, not terrible defense. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:26.720 Take it. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.000 But everyone you had to have they got right. 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.960 So, Paul, I think that leads us nicely into the good, 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:33.800 the bad, and the injured. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:39.960 Now it's time for the good. But the good, but 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.319 the good, the bad and the injured. 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:49.559 Ah ah, you are right guy. 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:54.360 You want to lead it off, Paul, And I think 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.760 maybe for edification for Mike when we were talking about 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.560 may I think it's worth repeating where Hall said he 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.240 would place Drake me on this list. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:04.000 I didn't have money any list. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.800 Yeah, that's I mean, it's the philosophical question. I think, like, 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.559 on one hand, you could say, hey, started, he threw 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.120 some nice balls, he got his feet wet. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.480 But my good, my best, my best, good thing that 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:13.880 I would put on this list, though, is going to 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.160 involve him. And it's the the you know, the drive 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.040 at the end of the half. And I just thought 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.280 it was such a I'm gonna get all like, you know, 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.640 philosophical I just thought it was such a like a 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.360 contrast to what we've been talking about. Yeah, you know, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.600 in the Seattle in Miami situation. So they get backed 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.960 up similarly, you know, I think it was the sixteen 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.840 yard line, they run the ball similarly on the first play, 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.600 the other team didn't take a time out. You sort 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.960 of let the clock run and you're like, okay, let's get. 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:45.400 Out of the half. 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.880 Then they throw it and he throws a pass all 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:51.720 the way across the field and it was, you know, 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.400 kind of look a little dicey, you know, but he 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.679 has the arm to get it there it gets out 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:57.679 to Mario Douglas. 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:58.840 Douglas is able to get. 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.840 Up the sideline, get out of bounds, get the first down, 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.760 and I just thought it stood as such a contrast 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.199 to the disasters and time management at the end of 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.599 the half with Brissette. Now all of a sudden, you 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.960 have a drive going, you make a play and that 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.920 culminates with an absolutely gorgeous forty yard touchdown from May 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.480 to Booty. So that was the best thing about this 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.800 game to me, was that sequence at the end of 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:21.319 the first half. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.719 That was my best good Yeah, I I hesitate to 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.160 put Kishan Booty on the actual good list, but just 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.640 to maybe piggyback on yours, just to say, I just 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.240 thought that was a great catch from him. I mean 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.640 that that play down the field mentioned in the pregame, 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.600 show his hands, something that stands out. I mean, May 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.320 threw that ball. They were they were even, you know. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.079 I just I thought the way he threw that ball 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.079 with anticipation, really struggling with the goods in the back 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.240 like he gets by perfect. 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:47.240 I got to catch that ball. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.280 Oh this is It's a perfect throw. Right, It's a 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.559 great throw. But but I like Mike before you came down. 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.240 I was like, this is like runs the gamut of 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:56.920 the things that if you're a Patriots fan that you're 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:00.840 really excited about, because it's not it's just Drake May 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.880 coming in and doing something. It's he's throwing the ball 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.559 to a second year receiver too, who beats a really 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.960 good cornerback yep, yep, you know, and Derek Stingley. So 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.880 I just thought, you can't if you know you want 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.360 to be a dorky Patriots man, I don't think you 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.000 could be excited enough about that play. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:18.800 Yeah, now you know you need more of them, get 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:19.600 more of them. 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.120 And then just so before we put Booty in the 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.600 Hall of Fame, Patriots Hall of Fame, I had a 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.599 second and seven play in the second quarter where he 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.640 just flat out whift on a block and got it winning. 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:29.719 The running backs killed in me. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.160 Yeah, like I said, in the back, not putting him 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:33.960 on the not putting him on there, but just wanted to, 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.520 you know, highlight it. I just I'm really struggling with 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.200 the goods and the bats, because I think just about 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.240 every player it's kind of like Drake was today where 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.040 I can point to two or three plays that were 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:43.559 really good. And I can point to two or three 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.840 plays that were not very good, especially on the defensive 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:47.800 side of the ball. But but I will put to 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.160 Mario Douglas on the list, looking at his you know, 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.679 final stats, to catch his ninety two yards thirty five 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:56.080 yard long that that touchdown, got his first touchdown. Ye, 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.720 he was an effective piece and I thought you really 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.240 started to see, you know, maybe why he might have 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.439 been itching to get Drake in there. He was very 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.720 involved and just showed the production and the way that 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.360 you know, you're hoping that this kid can contribute. So 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.079 I put Douglas he is a. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:12.800 Threat to score every time he touches the ball, no 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:13.520 question about it. 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.000 Nothing if not consistent. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.200 So I would say, like that's what I was talking 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.000 about before the game, like I want to see some 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.400 of those NFL plays, those crossers, yes, you know, and 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.080 unfortunately I thought may missed a few of them. The 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:31.040 first interception was was one that I thought he overshot him. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.000 He had another one that he threw well behind. You know, 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.600 there was listen, there was a little nuke l loos 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:38.920 to that performance today. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.920 A really good comp but because he sprayed it all 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:43.439 over the place. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.200 But yeah, but I just like those crossers to Douglas. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:47.800 You know, I was joking with Freddie. I was like, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.400 that's the guy that you guys have been telling me 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.400 about that for two That's the first time I saw it. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.760 Like he torched that guy on the touchdown off the 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.960 line of scrimmage. It was not even competitive. He beat 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.720 him within like you know, like uncovering and getting open. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.200 He beat him within the first millisecond of the route 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.760 and comes across the field and he's you know, it's 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.000 a thirty five yard touchdown. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.520 That's good stuff. Is it okay? 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:13.400 Is it okay that the boss is joining us now 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.480 to break format and get some instant analysis. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.079 From fred No, he gets he jumps in with the 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:19.520 good okay, then jump in. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.280 Can you imagine what this kid's going to be like 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.000 when he has an adequate front line in front of 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:27.080 him and a couple of weapons. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.040 Yeah, that's me. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.520 I'm excited. I'm excited. Put him on the good list. 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:38.040 First game against this defense with this support cast. Put 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:39.120 him on the good list. 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.120 I think Paul and I had him on no list. 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.000 I didn't have many We didn't have him the good list. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.960 We didn't have the bad list. You, guys, I have 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.960 him on the on the on the Paul Excitement List. 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:48.600 That's where I have. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.120 He provided you excitement. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:53.560 That's why he's on the Paul Excitement. 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.480 Put him on the good listt put him on the 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:55.960 good list. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:57.560 I can't put a guy who turned the ball over 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:58.640 three times on the good list. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:14:59.680 Just what did you expect? 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.800 I didn't expect anything. I was watching the game and 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:03.840 I was going to see what happened. 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:08.040 He made you excited. I absolutely made you excited. Excited 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:09.120 he guys on the good list. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.760 I was absolutely excited. Can we also? He also turned 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:13.440 the ball over three times? I can't put him on the. 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:14.560 Cause I knew that was going to happen. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.800 And some of the passes, you know, that was just 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.120 so all over, all over the place. 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:20.640 Finally he thinks Pop Douglas is good. 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.600 I know, Well, hey where we got that came? 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.480 He got a touchdown to polk. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:31.680 Look anyway, I said, I said, I joke to Fred, Oh, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:33.360 this is what you guys have been telling me he 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:34.120 does all the time. 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.840 No, we told you it is. We told you what 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.640 he can do. What that's that's what he does. Okay, 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.080 but yeah, you didn't see the speed. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.320 Yeah, okay, he beat that guy in a blink off 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:47.080 the line of scrimmage. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.520 That was and it was a good pass that led 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:50.800 him and he allowed him. 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.840 It's part of what I would. 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:54.440 Have allowed him to show his talent. 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.360 You know, I'll save my nitpicking probably until the week, 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:58.600 but you know, it would have been nice to see 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.160 some of that in the first three quarters of the game, 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.480 and it was a little bit more competitive. But I'm nitpicking. 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:04.280 That's a nitpick. 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.160 Is that it for goods? 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.160 I mean, honestly, it might be for me. I mean, 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.000 as much as I could point out good plays with 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:12.800 some of these guys, there are also other players that 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:14.120 I could I could point out and be bad, and 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.360 I don't, you know, want to shorten the segment, but 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.720 I think a lot of these guys are are worthy 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:19.200 of I. 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:23.720 Really only I had four people. I had May I'm good. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:28.280 I'm good. I had I had Pop Douglas, Okay. 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.000 Mike had him, I had Booty. 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:35.080 Mentioned them, and I give Hasty a good just for 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.840 being thrown in there and in the effort not not 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.200 dropping the ball. Who Hasty for? 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:42.320 What? 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.000 For just getting it being thrown in there? 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.680 And you know he's the like a backup running back. 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:50.880 The lead kickoff returner who I think. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.320 At least kickoff returner every game at. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.760 Least twice stopped and allowed the other team to tackle him. No, 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:58.440 he's like the kickoff return was. 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.440 He had to carries for twelve yards. 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.600 Yeah, I put him on the good Wow, Okay, I 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:04.880 think I would. 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.040 I have to say, this is the most incredulous I've 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.040 ever been over a selection for you, the list in 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.119 the illustrious history of this pro the illustrious history of 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:15.480 this program, Like. 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:23.880 Are you Jennings and I give I given the defense. 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.200 No one gets on the good list, the whole defense. 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:27.760 It was absolutely disgusting. 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.840 But I don't kill the defense. I do, I don't. 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.520 I mean I I it wasn't good. It's again it's 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.600 not on the good list. But they were put in 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.600 a lot of bad spots and they didn't always give 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:38.320 up a touchdown. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.840 There were a couple of full play field goal drives. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.000 It's not it's full plays three yards field. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.160 That's as good as you can it's. 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.280 Just not the final points. It's like, you know, you 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.479 get you get in a position and then like you 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.800 give up these big runs and it's just that's fair. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:54.680 That's that's fair. 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.720 I'm like, I've seen the I've seen the defense play 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.320 a lot worse than it did today. I know they 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.880 give forty one points and it looks horrible. I don't 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.480 think they were responsible for the forty one points stats. 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.840 Would they run for Houston? Run for total? Well, they 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:08.600 ran for a lot, but it was all on three. 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.480 Three rays, right, But those plays were not competitive. 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:15.520 Jeezus one hundred and ninety two. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.880 Again, yea one hundred ninety two Yeah, I mean. 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.600 Seven yards yeah, fifty nine and fifty four yard runs. 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:25.159 One hundred of them came on two gigs. I don't know. 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.480 Maybe I'm not putting like, I'm not telling you the 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:28.959 defense was good by any stretch. 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:30.440 It was not good today. Fred's right. 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:33.439 Fred's way more right than I am. I just I 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.720 think there were some extenuating circumstances. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:37.720 They were made to look worse than they were. 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.560 But it I thought that some of the spots they 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:42.240 were put in they handled pretty well. 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:44.000 But you're right. 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:47.560 I mean, bottom line is there were times when they 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.760 gave up plays and you know, like you need to stop, 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:51.640 Like you. 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:52.560 Know, Mike was joking. 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:53.520 I don't know. 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:53.919 I don't know. 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:55.600 He Mike had a little look in his eye today 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:57.280 that I haven't really seen much. 0:18:57.600 --> 0:18:59.600 Mike was envisioning a thirty five thirty. 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.520 Four win that I thought was quite pure, out of 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.879 pure Fantasy lands. And it's third and five and I'm like, 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:08.800 I just looked at and after that playoff was like, 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.920 that's what's happened all day. Every time, every time they 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.800 needed to complete a little pass, they completed a little 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.119 pass unless they did something to stop it, and like 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.520 that was as easy. And then the next play Pierce 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.200 runs fifty four yards with a touchdown. 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.960 Douce your favorite player today? How do you think he looked? 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.240 Who is Who's my favorite player? Stefan Diggs, Don't get 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:30.960 me started on him, Like all right, so that's what 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:32.800 just kills me like that, Like and Paul saw me. 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:34.760 I had steam coming out of my ears to you know, 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:36.800 the rest are calling all these tiki taky calls on 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:38.600 the first and yes, some of them are just talking 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:42.600 about But then a blatant face mask where like everyone 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:43.080 can see it. 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.120 It's crossed the Patriots and a touchdown. 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.080 They missed that it gave them a touch And then 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:49.000 my best friend. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.399 Stefan Diggs, the great, greatest guy ever, then gets a 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.320 freaking taunting penalty, like the great guy that he is. Uh, 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.080 I just think he's a turd. I I wouldn't know. 0:19:58.080 --> 0:19:59.919 I wouldn'tant him on my team. I honestly wouldn't. I know, 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.520 says I'm stupid that you need that number one and 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:04.280 that guy is awesome. But I'm sorry. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:05.880 I just I wouldn't want to win the team now, 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:07.639 but I would. I would have wanted him on my 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.560 team the last five years, and you were like turned 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:10.879 them up. 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:12.840 He didn't never want anything with Buffalo. There's a reason 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:13.600 they got rid of him. 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.240 So you know, one of those they never want anything. 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.280 They never want anything. What they want they that's so, 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:20.120 that's that's it. 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:21.720 Like you win eleven twelve games. 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:23.600 I'm mad right now and I'm pouting. 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:27.480 Stop putting credit though, Fred, because he's very consistent. 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:29.520 He had no use for the twelve and four seasons 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:30.359 the Patriots are putting. 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.840 I had no use for a number one. If it's anyway, 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:34.560 let's let's move on from Dicks. I just I want 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:35.880 to mention I don't know if he's on that list, 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:37.520 but this Ben Brown kid came out of nowhere. I 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:39.959 didn't really see any botch snaps or anything like that. 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:41.879 I maybe the ball knowers will tell me that there 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:43.760 was pressure coming up his way the whole game. 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:46.800 I haven't read that. 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:51.160 That's not. 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:55.359 But I I just much in the same line of 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.439 last week, I gave credit to Mapu from coming out 0:20:57.440 --> 0:20:58.920 of nowhere and playing I'm going to give credit to 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.240 that kid fair enough his first NFL start. I would 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.199 I would agree with you saw enough botch snaps. 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.560 There were a couple of snaps that looked funny, I 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.240 would say, but I didn't, like, you know, a couple 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:12.000 of double clutches. But I'm gonna sorry, Fred, I'm gonna 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.840 put that on May because I know, yeah, that one 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:15.920 was yeah how much? 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:17.000 So I agree with you. 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.479 I didn't he had like eight offensive plays to his 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:20.240 credit coming in. 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:20.640 Yeah. 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:22.600 Yeah, so that's you know, I don't know exactly how 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:24.479 well he played. He might have given up a few pressures, 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.040 but I mean all the sacks were from the edges 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.240 as they as they have been. And you know, Venerian 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.919 Low went out again and uh and another guy had 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:33.040 to step in, so it's you know, they're just getting 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.880 getting really killed on the offensive. Line this year. 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:37.960 I brought up digs number one to get under your skin, 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.119 but number two to bring up Christian Gonzales. 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:41.280 Okay, And I know it. 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:45.720 Wasn't uh uh apples to apples comparison. And we don't 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.040 know what the coverages were. Were they playing man? Were 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.399 they you know, what were they doing? Were they showing 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:51.880 me in and going back into his own. 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.199 Some of those big ones we were, man, Yeah, good 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:56.920 first drive there was like three in a row. 0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:57.840 Now not good enough. 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:00.600 And I'd put Marcus Jones on Tank Dell right next 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:02.520 to him. I think both those guys, you know, those 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:04.080 Dell and Dickson, though. 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.320 I thought Jonathan Jones struggled to I agree with you. 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:07.920 I thought the secondary as a whole was. 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.200 And Jonathan Jones kind of in and out, in and out. 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:14.159 Marco Marco Wilson was informed and in fairness, Marcus Jones 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:15.959 on the injury report this week with you know, with 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.280 the groin issue, so you know he's fighting hurt a 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.520 little bit, but just it wasn't good enough. It's a 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:22.280 good point. Maybe that's why they don't put him back 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:25.960 on kicks. Yeah, that's a good point, Mike about Marcus Jones. 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.240 But yeah, I agree. The secondary wasn't good enough today. 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.040 You know, you had no Nico Collins that should have 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:33.399 given you, you know, a. 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:37.560 Leg up, and those other two guys were open all day, you. 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:39.520 Know, and it wasn't huge numbers. But the reason it 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:41.960 wasn't huge numbers is because of the field position they 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:44.119 kept taking over in so you can only get to 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:44.840 the end zone. 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:45.520 Right. 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.960 You know, Mike, your other favorite player. I have a 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.280 feeling he's going to wind up on your bad list today. 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:52.000 Yeah. 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:53.320 No, yeah, I just had. 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:54.840 A tough, tough game bad drops. 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.359 Ike was really mad at him, disappointed, disappointed. 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.080 I had a different I had a different version of 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:02.200 my head press box. Well, it was kind of fun. 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:02.920 I'm not gonna lie. 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:03.000 No. 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:04.840 I was a little fired out. I mean, look, you 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.240 know why because Drake May made me excited enough to care, 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:09.879 you know, and that's why, like, you know, when it's 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.160 Jacobe Prissette out there, and you know, this offense isn't 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.840 really something you're gonna build around, and you just want 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.119 guys to support the rookie quarterback and you're seeing right 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:20.440 here some of the you know, just surprising drops, uncharacteristics dry. 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:23.080 You know that that that's a play that Jalen Polk. 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:25.760 I've seen him catch you know, already a dozen times 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:28.040 in between training, camping and the early part of the. 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.400 Season, but like, what is that that one at the end? 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:33.520 I mean, just incredibly uh, you know, disappointing from him 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:36.760 again trying to support the rookie quarterback. I'm more than anything, 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.119 I'm surprised because I thought not to say that he 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:40.719 would have put up the same production that we got 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:42.840 out of Douglas today, but I would have expected a 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.199 similar kind of performance where he said, hey, this is 0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:46.840 the guy I've been working with all summer. I'm gonna 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.320 support them. I'm sure Jalen Polk's probably in there feeling 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:50.760 sick right now himself for the way he plays. 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:51.720 Is it in his head? 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:52.480 We'll see. 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:53.960 I mean it's a rookie, it's you know. 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:56.040 First, you might be fighting it a little bit. 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:57.960 This is saying this is off the top of my head. 0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:59.679 So I don't know if this is exactly right, but 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.760 it's close. I believe he was targeted four times to 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:05.960 say he had one catch, so that wasn't that wasn't 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:09.320 the part that was I think that that gives him 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.640 seventeen targets in the last three games and five catches. Yeah, yeah, 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:14.560 and then I mean I think he had three three 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.440 for seven against San Francisco, one for six last week 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:19.760 and one for four today. And there was another one 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:21.720 that he was targeted on that he didn't catch, that 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.800 was overturned for a penalty when the kid for Houston 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:27.679 got the hands to the face, so that doesn't count. 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.360 He was, you know, similarly blanketed on that play too, 0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:34.199 So maybe he's you know, struggling a little bit. You know, 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:36.200 I know it's a little early for the rookie wall 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.320 kind of stuff, but no, but it's an it's because 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:40.600 I agree with Mike. Those catches that he dropped today, 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.320 those two passes, he literally caught every one of those 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:46.359 in training camp and so far, like that's what anything 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:47.840 he's gotten his hands on he's caught. 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.679 Yes, something that was a typical of him wondering. 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:52.480 Kind of like narrative busting. Like it's like, you know, 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.640 you have this impression of a guy of all, right, 0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:56.760 he's not going to be the downfield speed guy, but 0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:58.600 like he's going to be a consistent hands guy, and 0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:00.480 he hasn't been that the last week. He's got to 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:01.000 turn it around. 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:01.520 They need him. 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.040 Host, Matt, I do think that we need to devote 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:08.040 some time of this show just really breaking down May's day. 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.360 I mean, you know, really honestly. 0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.919 I have a feeling the next hour and going to 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:14.160 always first. 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:16.600 The first thing I started the shoot, Boss Fred is 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:18.160 the lose forty one to twenty one. 0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:20.120 I don't think we're going to be talking about the game. 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.600 No, I think I think this is we should really 0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.639 talk about, you know, what we saw that we like, 0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:27.520 what we saw that he needs to work on. 0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:30.240 So I bring up two other things. 0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:33.320 I think Fred's right, and I agree, and I'll just say, 0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.199 like real quick, three third down penalties and like the 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:40.080 first fifteen minutes and four seconds on failed third downs, 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.640 three third down penalties on failed third downs for the defense. 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.520 Today you get a penalty on the opening kickoff by 0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:50.720 the guy coming off of pup, you know, moving too soon, 0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:55.360 see ony taki taki, just another day of sloppiness with penalties. 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.880 Well you guys, you guys haven't heard the coach yet, 0:25:57.880 --> 0:25:59.359 but wait till you hear him. 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:03.359 Okay, good now that might excite that already heard me? 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:07.680 Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, that might. Well I didn't 0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.720 hear all of it, but I heard his opening remarks. 0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:11.600 Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know what he's doing with 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:13.840 the red cutoff hoodie too. That was just a throwback 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:14.920 to headache that. 0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.320 So we're the two things I just want to bring up. 0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:19.159 Is it kicking a guy when it's down. I'm not 0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:20.840 saying that he has to has to be on the 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.479 list Austin Hooper, like a guy's just trying to make 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.440 a play too much, like you can't give it up there. 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:28.800 No, it's just more sloppiness. It's a bad fumbles. 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:31.159 Bad And I guess I'm gonna say maybe credit to 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:36.040 the Houston Advanced scouting staff, like they they wanted the 0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.400 Patriots to feel the ball and kick returns, and you know. 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.440 What they covered. They did a really good job. 0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.520 Believe they had one back to the thirty. Now, I 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.320 don't know if they do that all year. That's there, 0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.119 that's their thing. They want to try to get you 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:48.480 inside the thirty. But that's the first game that I've 0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.840 seen and I'm not talking about Patriots game. That's the 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.080 first game that I've seen that that's been the case. 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.000 A team went into the game and they said with 0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.160 the game plan. We're going to kick it and make 0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.520 them return it, and we're going to cover it every time. Yeah, 0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:01.600 I have seen a game like that yet, and they 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:03.800 did and they did it really he got to the 0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.240 thirty once. I think maybe the second kick of the game. 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:10.720 He got to the thirty. Every other one, I don't 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:11.440 know if it was hasty. 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.800 Yeah, that's best return. That's the one that got to 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:14.879 the thirty. Yeah, that was it. 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.280 He wiped out the gatorade bucket for somebody wiped out 0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:17.960 the gatorade bucket. 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:19.879 But every other one he was he had to. It 0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.280 was hard pressed to get to the twenty five. Yeah, 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.200 their coverage was outstanding. Houston's coverage was excellent. 0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:27.760 Okay, so we've handled the good, we've handled the bad. 0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.679 From an injury standpoint, it wasn't like last week. They 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.120 didn't come out clean. Low got Was it friendly fire 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:34.359 that got Darian Low. 0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:36.360 Just twisted up like you know in the past rush 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:37.760 he was on the ground. I actually know. I'm thinking 0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:39.400 to Jordan, I'm sorry I didn't see. I didn't see 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.320 the Low and it was an ankle. But he's he's 0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:43.159 been banged up a lot. 0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:44.200 It's unbelieve that guy. 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:48.000 The same injury though, right, the ankle isn't that. 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.320 Point and then he was back, Well that was a 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:51.960 couple of weeks and the oblique I think was a 0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.159 couple of weeks ago. So he just you know, he 0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:55.720 gets banged up a lot. I think that's what we're 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.119 kind of finding out with him. And as much as 0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.000 they wanted that continuity came into this game. I mean, 0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:02.440 I think we probably spent the first hour and a 0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.840 half of the pregame show talking about, hey, they finally 0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:06.440 had some off and then it was like, wait, Ben 0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:08.920 Brown's at center, and then it was like, oh, Venerian 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:10.960 Lowe's out, and then you know, Michael Jordan went out briefly. 0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.399 He did come back, which was a good Signmapu went 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:17.480 out with a neck which he was astute probably a stinger, yep, 0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:18.400 which is always a. 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.199 I ruled that a stinger from a far and I 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.399 believe I channeled my inner Brian Morey. 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:23.199 Yeah, that's it. 0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:24.240 He's done. Right. 0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.320 What about did Gibson go out? He took a shot 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.520 along the sideline, so it never saw him again. 0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:30.480 He got he got. 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:31.720 I think he may have. 0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:33.360 Mad. 0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.720 I don't think they never announced anything for him, but 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:37.119 there was a point where. 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:38.760 All of a sudden beating today. 0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:40.600 I don't know if they just decided we don't need 0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.320 to give him any more hits, or if he was 0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:43.480 dealing with something because. 0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:48.760 He took it right. What did the thirteen for nineteen like? 0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.240 He did not have a chance today. 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:54.440 Okay, so we got through the good, the bad, and 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:57.360 the injured. 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The Patriots postgame show is sponsored by Draft Kings. 0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.520 Stay tuned because you'll hear more about Draft Kings and 0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:08.360 all it has to offer throughout the show. Draft Kings, 0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.760 The Crown is yours. The Patriots are now one and 0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:16.600 five on the season. Paul, your laptop is up. And 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.000 as we said, I think we've pretty much discussed the game. 0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.320 Let's talk about Drake. May give me a stat line, please, sir? 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.400 Yeah, like we like we said, mixed bag twenty for 0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:27.400 thirty three two and forty three yards, three touchdowns, two 0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:32.000 picks and a loss fumble. Now I would say how 0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:33.160 many sacks? 0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.760 Hope, police, it was like four, maybe three or four. 0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:39.840 It was all Hunter and his trend created. 0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.320 To be sure, tonight he will four sacks and he 0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:44.560 ran for how many of yards? 0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.840 He did a good, great job with his legs. Five 0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:50.640 for thirty eight yards with a long and fifteen So yeah, 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.040 he did a great job with his legs. 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:54.520 A lot of stuff to like. 0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.920 From a stat line perspective, just you know, to put 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.480 it all into context, two hundred and forty three yards 0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.240 blows away anything they did in the first five games 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.280 crossingep you know, they were averaging one hundred and nineteen 0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:14.719 yards passing a game. Yeah, so twenty one points, that's 0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:19.200 the high watermark. Twenty was the previous best against Seattle. 0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:24.680 So some good, some bad. Forty one allowed is also 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:26.440 the high water mark, and a big part of the 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.959 reason for that of the four turnovers, three of which 0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:32.839 were on May. So yeah, a lot of a lot 0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.120 of good and a lot of bad, you know, which 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:36.080 is to be expected. 0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.600 Fred, Are you prepared to say after watching one game 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:43.040 that they've now gone from a team that did not 0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:46.000 have a serviceable passing game. Do they have a serviceable 0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:46.759 passing game now? 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.400 No? Not until they fixed the. 0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.680 Lots of line Okay, yeah, I agree with Freddy. 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:54.560 But they have a serviceable passer, yes, and maybe even 0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:58.440 more than that. Right, But in terms of the total game, 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:02.920 I mean, he's under siege every almost every play. You know, 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.440 toward the end of the first half, he wasn't because 0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:11.000 you know, Jacksonville was not Jacksonville. Who were they playing today? 0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:13.840 Houston was playing back a little bit. They weren't rushing 0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:15.799 as many, and he had a little bit more time 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.760 and it showed. But you know, for the most part, 0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:21.880 there's always somebody in his face. I think, you know, 0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:25.440 he was a little flustered at times back there. I 0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.680 think he needs to work on his pocket awareness. A 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.120 lot of times he's bouncing off guys like a pinball 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:35.279 back there, and sometimes he escapes, sometimes he didn't, but 0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:40.439 you know, he his his pocket awareness of what's going 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.880 around him needs to be improved. His accuracy was off 0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:47.000 at times, but again, you know that could be from 0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.640 you know, you don't know when you're gonna help. Yeah, right, so, 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:56.400 but so that will improve. But the mobility, the arm strength, 0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:00.520 the ability to extend plays, all that's stuff that we 0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:03.759 were told was there. We saw glimpses of all of that, 0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:06.640 and I think we saw glimpses of the future. 0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:11.680 I'm sure enough not smart enough Mike to really comment 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.680 accurately or with any kind of respectability on his footwork, 0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:19.280 but that was a big topic of discussion draft after 0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.680 the draft. In training camp, did you see anything in 0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:25.040 his footwork that would make you think it's improved if 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:28.200 it wasn't very good or still needs work as far 0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.600 as his footwork is concerned, I mean nothing to watch 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.560 the film, Matt, Yeah, I figured I knew that it 0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:33.040 was got. 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.239 To take to the tape for that one, but I 0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.560 just echo, you know what Fred said. I think my 0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:40.839 expectations this this was a little bit on like steroids. 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:42.839 Like I felt like, I'll throw a touchdown, but he's 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.919 gonna turn one over. I didn't expect like he's gonna 0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.759 throw three touchdown. It's gonna have you know, four three turnovers, 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:50.080 you know, and some of the some of the balls, 0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.319 like I talked about with him just being a little 0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.399 sporadic and it's being high, and there were a couple 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.000 where I did feel like he had time and you know, 0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:58.680 I don't know if it was specific to his footwork 0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.440 or him you know, just being uncomfortable generally, but I 0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.239 think he sprayed a couple that that were probably a 0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.279 little bit easier than than he made him out to be. 0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:06.560 So that's a good you. 0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.520 Know, you talked about down in the pregame show. He said, geez, 0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.239 the worst thing that could happen what you didn't want 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:15.280 to see Wash gift a pick to an opposing player. 0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:16.920 I don't know that I would call this a gift, 0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.000 but he certainly sailed that first interception where it looked 0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:21.640 like the guy was open underneath and the ball just 0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:25.359 sailed on roat, you know, and that might be nerves. 0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.319 Yep, you know, yeah, sure he had. 0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.360 As we saw this summer, he had a couple others 0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.120 that got away and they went on. You know, there 0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.279 was a crosser I think that Douglas. Douglas reached his 0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.560 hand back and you're like, oh boy, because those are 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:37.880 the ones that get picked, yes, you know, and you 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.000 know that they fell. Yeah, there was there was a lot. 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.879 He sprayed it around. Yeah, he was all over the fairway. 0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:45.399 And like it's like you can throw a forty yard 0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.240 dive that drops right into booty, but the throw bloody 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.279 was perfect ten yard crosser. It was a little you know, 0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:52.640 so I just think that's youth, and you know he'll 0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:54.600 he'll get those things is he gets more calm. 0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.000 So so here's the thing, here's the challenge to the 0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:58.200 coaching staff right now. 0:37:58.239 --> 0:37:59.640 I wonder if it's the same one that I said, 0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:00.080 fred Bie. 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.879 Well, you got eleven games left? Do you coach? I'm 0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.160 talking about the offense mostly, but do you coach the 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:10.040 games going forward to give the team the best chance 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:13.320 to win? Or do you coach the games to develop 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.840 your fa And those could be opposed? 0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.040 Actually, so how so explain that? 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:19.080 So? 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.840 Like, you know, like I want to see them run 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:26.719 an offense in plays that will test may that will 0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:28.839 test his limits, that will see what he can do, 0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.120 you know, and the results be damned. You know if 0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.120 he has another game where he turns it over three 0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:38.239 times and I don't care, but I want, I want 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:41.840 to I want to see play calling that you know, 0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.439 accentuates the talents that we think he has. 0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:46.240 So where would you say, where would you put today's 0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:47.480 play calling in that regard? 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:50.520 Well, I thought they put more on his plate than 0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:50.719 I was. 0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:54.080 Well no, but I think they got behind so early 0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.080 that they had a throw. But what happens if it's close. 0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:58.400 Do they keep it close. 0:38:58.200 --> 0:38:59.759 To And I know that a lot of people are 0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:01.520 going to say on the opening drive, you know, so 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:03.799 Houston goes right down the field seven nothing to come out, run, 0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.920 run third and long, you know, And and I get it, 0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:08.719 like that's what they did, you know. 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.600 But I thought for the most part they. 0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.160 Treated it like a regular He's just a regular quarterback, 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.000 not not a quarterback making his first start. 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:19.360 I agree. I didn't see a lot of training wheels. 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.000 I agree with that. But will they do that going forward? 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:23.879 Yeah? Yeah, no, It's an interesting thing. 0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:27.520 We shall see because the one in five New England Patriots. 0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.320 Listen twelve and five is still on the table. 0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.160 There you go, Freddy, go to London. 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.399 Quarterback. The question is, like. 0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.040 The question is how do they think they can get 0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:37.080 those twelve wins? 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:39.719 The cheap the X hotline is eight five to five 0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.239 Pats five hundred. You can reach us via electronic meal 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.759 with podcast at Patriots dot com. Cameron is up first 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.920 and has been waiting patiently. Good afternoon, Cameron, you are 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:50.800 first in the Patriots postgame shit him. 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.960 Hey, there guys, just a couple of things I want 0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.120 to kind of rattle off to you, I thought, Uh. 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:04.880 I thought the defense was terrible, especially on third down defense. 0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:09.200 I understand they went four for eleven, but and in 0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:13.680 situations where they really needed to stop two pass interppearance, 0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:15.839 I thought was unnecessary. 0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:17.719 And you'd make a good point because those don't count 0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:19.480 in the four for eleven. That's like six for old 0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:21.040 you know what I mean? Those those are those are 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:22.160 conversions that don't count. 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:23.000 The stats. 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.000 Correct, And I just mean, yeah, you're you're right, I 0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.680 mean either way, Like and then in situations where we 0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.080 could have splash, should have had stops, I thought that 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:40.600 the cover would the coverage. We're terrible. Pass interferences were 0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:45.600 super bad, I thought, Uh, I thought Drake May, I'm 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.080 definitely encouraged by the way he played. Obviously there were 0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:50.840 some ups, there's some downs, but I thought, for the 0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:55.160 most part, I'm encouraged by uh by what I saw. 0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.600 I thought Antonio Gibson, it's kind of proved to me 0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.120 that he was not And every down back I thought 0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:07.880 his du cane driving to uh to keep it simple 0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.759 was was discouraging. I'll say I was not encouraged at 0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:12.879 all by the way he ran. 0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:15.080 UH. 0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:15.800 But but that's. 0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.480 Pretty much it. The note question just just just to 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:20.480 kind of a couple of things out, no questions, just 0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:20.759 to come. 0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:22.600 Man, I don't think you've so much of it. 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.000 Thank you, Cameron. I appreciate it. 0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:27.160 Pinballing up this up the middle and I thought he 0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:28.600 was getting hit immediately. 0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.560 Yeah, and the one day they held him up low 0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.600 and then another guy came high and he's just like 0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:35.080 I thought he was going to break his back. 0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.640 Uh, let's go next to Nelson in Los Angeles. Nelson, 0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.280 you're next on the Patriot's post game show? Are you excited? 0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:48.080 Nelson after watching Drake May today, sirs. 0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:49.000 That means look at the light. That means we got 0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.560 something going on. I should have started before we played 0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.479 the Jets. He would have been better in this game. 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.040 I would have started three week ago week one. 0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:58.960 We would have won this game if he had started 0:41:59.000 --> 0:41:59.399 week one. 0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:01.640 Well, we'll see. 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:03.799 I think I think as long as he's healthy, he's 0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:05.440 going to start the rest of them. 0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:05.200 Yeah. 0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.759 Yeah, I think the actually potential on that guy. I 0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.279 see a lot of potential that the other quarterback didn't have. 0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:18.520 And one more thing, Oh do we do we drop that? 0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.799 We usually generally yeah, usually, you know, like when it 0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:22.520 happens once we. 0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.360 Put him on probation, and yeah, you know they. 0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:27.920 Go by the way. By the way, you know, he 0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:32.600 played the whole game. I think I looked at the injuries. 0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.319 I think he's still alive, Drake May Do you think 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:37.400 he survived? I don't know. 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:39.879 If I would, I would hold on your victory last. 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:41.879 So the injury report comes out next week. I don't 0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:44.239 I'm going to tell you right now he going beyond it. 0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:45.480 I don't think he think so. 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:46.520 Oh yeah, I don't. 0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:47.680 I don't think he's ruined. 0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:52.520 The ruins thing is where I jump on board. He 0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:54.400 took a lot of big hits today, yeah, and he 0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:56.879 was slow getting up a lot today. 0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:58.239 But there was one that. 0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:01.600 It's called football. If I'm with Fred's premise here. 0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.879 I mean we talked like we were sending him out, 0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:06.640 you know, in World War One, to the front line 0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:09.120 with a rifle and a banet. You know, it's like, 0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.680 here you go, kid, fight the Germans. 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:13.640 So this the play that Low gets hurt on as 0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:15.880 well as he goes down, does he get on the 0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:19.280 back right there, right right on Low's ankle? 0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:22.640 Could call there, Paul Hope, says Cynthia, who says yes, 0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.160 we lost, but how many people thought we'd score twenty 0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.960 one points? Imagine that that's now the barometer. I mean, 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.120 we were messing and we still had unnecessary penalties, capitol letters. 0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:34.120 But there are things we can clean up. Drake made 0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:35.080 moves with his legs. 0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:35.319 Pop. 0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:37.759 Douglas showed up. Remember this is a game we weren't 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.240 expected to do well and let alone win. We showed 0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.600 up and we showed that we don't give up. We 0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:44.560 can do better next game. 0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:45.399 I just want to. 0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:48.600 Caution, like the offense wasn't really any better today, like overall, 0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.600 Like there were past plays that were better than anything 0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:56.040 we've seen the offense, and I know that they all count. 0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:57.640 And I said at the beginning of the show, I 0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:00.480 think Mike, even before you came down, when Jacoby was 0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:02.600 the quarterback, we didn't get garbage touchdowns at the end 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:03.680 of the game when the games were over. 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.719 We got one today. Deal Like whatever. They didn't really 0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:08.879 do much offensively for a long time in this game. 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.360 No, I was just gonna highlight the touchdown throw in 0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:13.000 the thirty five yard and it pop, which is you 0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.040 just don't see those explosive plays around here. It's been 0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:16.400 a long time since those. 0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:18.759 Are the plays on focus, you know, because we haven't 0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:19.120 had any. 0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:20.719 Yeah, I know, that's what we were talking about. When 0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:22.640 was the last time of forty yards in the air 0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:24.520 pass and the into the end zone? I mean, I 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:25.760 don't know if we ever saw that, Mike. 0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:27.239 You and I like to talk about like, you know, 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.320 what can we what can we bring forward? 0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:30.279 What's sustainable? 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:30.680 Right? 0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:30.960 Yeah? 0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:35.600 Well, you know Drake May running around for a few 0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:37.480 minutes looking like he's gonna run, then all of a 0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:39.520 sudden stopping just before the line of scrimmage and finding 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.839 a wide open hunter Like that's probably not a play 0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:44.120 that's going to happen a lot, but those are the 0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.200 off platform plays that Drake May can make. 0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:47.960 That Jacobe Prissett cough platform. 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:48.560 I love it. 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:51.840 The future from Dean in Liverpool in the UK Wonderfield 0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:53.880 be at the game next week. No, it wasn't perfect, 0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:55.960 but it was filled with moments to give us optimism 0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:58.400 moving forward. That Drake May is our future and we 0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:01.200 should build the team around him. Imagine this kid with 0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.800 protection and just one outstanding receiver. Drake May is the future, 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:06.520 so says Dean from Liverpool. 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:08.879 I think you know what you're gonna need with all 0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.239 of that, you need the protection. Fred talked about that 0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.120 off the top, and I think Fred, you also mentioned 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.120 some weapons. You're also gonna need him to figure out 0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.319 how to be accurate because you can't leave as many 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.360 completions on the field. 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.040 As he did today. Okay, so that's gonna have to 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:21.719 be part of it too. 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.279 So to Fred's point that he made earlier, can we 0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.360 let him go through that this year and work on 0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:27.480 the accuracy issues? 0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:29.760 I would be stunted better start the rest of the games. 0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:32.080 Barring an injury, of course, but I. 0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:35.359 Think we're gonna be seeing accuracy issues and hopefully we're 0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:36.920 going to see improvement as the year goes on. 0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:38.680 That's what you better hope for, really hope. 0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.560 So really, you know, I don't think there's any question, 0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.160 barring injury, he's going to start every one of these games. 0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.920 My question is how will they coach them. Will they 0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:50.400 you know, we're a running team, you know, and and 0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.000 go that way, or will they let this kid air 0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:54.160 it out? You know? 0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:59.040 I mean, so well, I was just let's let's make 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.480 a couple of assumptions it's a winnable game next week. 0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:05.719 Can we all agree on that Yeah, sure, sure, okay. 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:07.760 Yeahs Sup's certainly winnable. 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.600 Let's say that Stevenson comes back next week. What if 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.000 they find themselves in a low scoring game, like a 0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:16.160 tractor pull thirteen ten thirteen doll game. You know, do 0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:18.640 you owe it to them, to these guys who are 0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:20.880 given their sweat and their tears, we got to win 0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:21.160 the game. 0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:22.080 It's a fair question. 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.560 It's a protect the game, don't turn it over. 0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:27.920 No, no, no, it's a fair question. Like That's why 0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.680 I'm saying it's a tough thing because you know, like 0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:32.799 there's a lot of other guys on this team too. 0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:35.000 It's not just Drake Man. They want to win, Yeah, 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:35.839 they want to win. 0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:39.799 I just think that this offense for so long you 0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.719 felt like they're dead in the water. If they get 0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.240 down by two scores and just to see a couple 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.200 throws down the field, that makes you think that this 0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:49.680 kid could lead an offense that has some explosive potential. 0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:52.120 Like to me, that means so much in this NFL. 0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:55.160 You cannot compete on the narrow road to victory that 0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.439 we hammer year in and year out the last three 0:46:57.480 --> 0:47:00.680 years about get down by fourteen dead Let's. 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:01.480 Break down the picks. 0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:03.759 Was that for me? It was a great It was 0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:05.719 a great mic. Just so rant I love it. 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:07.760 Let's let's break down the picks. 0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:09.560 The first one was terrible. 0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:12.319 Yeah, he just both of them sailed it, both of them. 0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:14.680 The first one was terrible, the second one. You can't 0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:15.719 have that pass. 0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:18.239 I mean yeah, yeah, he's gotta he's got to recognize it. 0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:20.840 Yeah, I blame that, you know, not downs at the 0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:21.920 line on the quarterback. 0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:26.080 Yeah, well I also would blame I think it was Jacobs. 0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:28.080 I think that needs to be a cut block. 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:29.239 Yeah, I mean I'm not. 0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:31.760 Yeah, of Alonzo Stag's. 0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:32.520 Got good time and just sales. 0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:36.040 That's a terrible that that one's that one's a terrible 0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:38.839 throat and he had others kind of like that. 0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:40.320 That landed harmlessly today. 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.640 I love on the tackle though Paul wasn't thinking no Drake, no, no. 0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.279 No, the whole time, I no, get out of it, 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:45.880 get out. 0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:50.520 Of it, separates the shoulder on you know, bright future 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:52.719 from Houston. Drake may showed a lot of promise today. 0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.239 Some issues to be sold, for sure, but maybe the 0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.120 best rookie debut for a quarterback. 0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:57.720 In Pat's history. 0:47:58.280 --> 0:47:59.800 Very excited for what's to come, at least for the 0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:00.279 off Like. 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.400 What did we watch? What did I miss? 0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:04.680 Well? 0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:08.560 But first of all, was there better one? Better debut 0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:10.080 by a quarterback rookie? 0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:14.239 Like, forget that it was they haven't had one in 0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.959 a long long time, right, well years ago. 0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:21.719 Oh, I guess Mac mac Jones was a rookie. You 0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:23.960 forget about it. I just I kind of watched. 0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:27.960 Do you remember first start? 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.759 Yeah, I mean Bailey's happies first start was better than that. 0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:35.200 I mean, I'm just saying it was right the T game. 0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:36.879 I believe that was his first. 0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:37.880 No, it was Cleveland. 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:43.120 Cleveland's even better, Right, Cleveland, it was even better. There 0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:46.920 was like, you guys aren't going to do this to me. 0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:48.839 You guys are going to go so over the top 0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:50.839 and you're gonna get me to be negative. I don't 0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.520 want to do it because I'm too excited about the 0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.239 Booty throw, the Douglas throw, Like That's what I'm going 0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:57.000 to focus on. 0:48:57.360 --> 0:48:58.760 But when it wasn't, the first. 0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:00.000 Dog was going to be good. 0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:03.400 You knew, all right, Paul just so he's like. 0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:06.000 Lovers, so so he needs the quarterback to make him good, 0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:08.440 is what you're telling. Because he has never looked the 0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:09.600 way he looked on that play. 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:11.200 Ever, that's not true. 0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:12.920 He's never had a play like that. 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:15.320 He had that great play in Dallas. That perception. 0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:17.799 I just give Will Anderson credit. I mean, it's he's 0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.240 a good player. Huh, got deflected and what a cat. 0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:23.400 Can't No, it's an unbelievable the fact that it gets intercepted. 0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:24.520 It's not Drake May's fault. 0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.399 Like that's a great, great individual play. But I don't 0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:28.839 even know who the guy is that picked it off. 0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:31.480 But you can't get the ball batted down on those plays. 0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:33.160 Like I'm with Fred Paul. 0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:34.840 Just to finish us up another topic that I know 0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:37.239 you love. On another note, this is from Houston. Again, 0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.560 the officiating was criminal today. 0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:40.120 It wouldn't have. 0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:41.839 Changed the up with the game by any means, but wow, 0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:43.880 I was love speechless on a few of those calls, 0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:44.480 non calls. 0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:45.839 Love the shows. Keep the cut. 0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:48.040 The face mask was an agreed that that was the. 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:50.560 Other one. 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:54.400 First it was a penalty. 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.359 I thought it was like, now here's where I would 0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:59.600 be upsetify with the Patriots. I thought the Patriots interfered 0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:02.960 worse than later in the game, called Gonzales on on 0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:04.879 Diggs at the corner of the end zone was more 0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:08.640 contact and Mapool won. The deflected pick was more like, 0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:14.279 I'd rather see those let go. But Fred's Fred called 0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:17.440 it live. Fret's had a really strong season Live, okay. 0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.960 Mapoo was on Schultz like, I think people think that 0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:22.399 the call was on the back of the end zone 0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:24.400 where a throw web. Now that's not where the call was. 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:27.680 Another officiating question from Nick, and I said the same 0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.000 thing live. But of course nobody's around me but me myself, 0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:30.600 and I so like. 0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:31.760 You can't prove it. 0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:34.880 But Nick questions, there was a flag for legal formation 0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:37.120 that we accepted after a third down stop. 0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:41.560 Actually it was, it was, but it was a completion 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:43.760 they had to take. They had to take the penalty. 0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:47.000 See what happened on the on the broadcast, is that 0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:50.040 you saw the ref right by the play He called it. 0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:51.680 Out, yes, but the other guy. 0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:55.160 Ruled him and said it was Then they talked and 0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:57.120 they ruled it a catch, so the Patriots had to 0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:57.800 take the penal. 0:50:57.840 --> 0:50:58.120 Correct. 0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:00.279 So Nick finishes what I was thinking, Did we have 0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:03.080 an option to decline? If so, is Mail outside out 0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:05.680 of his mind? No, I never saw the referee on 0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:07.040 the other side the same thing. 0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.319 Why why are we not just declining that let. 0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:09.879 Him kick right? 0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.200 So I actually had said something to Frank because I 0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:13.759 figured that was going to be a topic on the 0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:16.680 blog like that people were gonna because that's one of 0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:19.160 those things that sometimes the TV doesn't pick it up right. 0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.319 And you see it, and that guy came. The guy 0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:25.359 came from the back and ran up and emphatically gave 0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:27.200 it the catch signal if the problem. 0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:30.120 Was the play was just as emphatic saying and that 0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:30.600 was funny. 0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:32.359 I think he was just pouting because he's the one 0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:34.600 who called the penalty on the on the illegal shift. 0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:39.719 He caught it, But that doesn't matter now. I mean 0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:41.480 that was that was confusing. 0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:42.479 Uh. 0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:47.120 David Maine writes an exciting loss, this word shouldn't be 0:51:47.160 --> 0:51:47.840 in the same sentence. 0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:49.440 This is where I have to like, this is what 0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:51.120 I mean. I'm gonna end up getting negative in a 0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:54.000 place where I don't want to like. This was not 0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:55.839 anywhere near as good as some of these people are 0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:56.520 making it out to be. 0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:59.280 Right, Dave writes, I'm not a more victory guy again, 0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:02.239 and that was often close to one. But this is 0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:06.280 the best I felt after a loss, ever, very promising futurehead. 0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.840 Three tds in your first game is pretty remarkable, really, 0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:12.280 especially throwing to these characters. By the way, Matt looks 0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:14.680 like a grown up Ralphie from a Christmas story. 0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.279 I haven't seen that movie, so just give him the 0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:17.800 bunny is. 0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:20.000 You can't shoot your eye out with those glasses at least. 0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:23.440 Okay, Kevin from Nashville has been waiting patiently. You are 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:25.480 next on the Patriots postgame show. 0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:30.440 Kevin, Hello, I want to talk about the colossal mistake 0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:33.640 that a certain ball the radio said this week. 0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:36.280 That would probably be me. 0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:39.360 It was, it was, it was one of your favorite 0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:41.719 co hosts. But anyways, I think. 0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:45.160 Won you're not bold. 0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:50.360 I'm talking about masks. Anyways, the other. 0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:52.640 Show, I'm sorry, Kevin. 0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:58.000 Show starting mistakes loudly streaming. 0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:01.280 I don't see how that would be the case, because 0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:04.279 he got some of his rookie jitters out. There's no 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:07.239 chance they're winning that game, for said, so he got 0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:10.239 some good plays out. He got some terrible plays out, 0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:15.400 like yeah, probably two terrible plays, double questionable plays. But 0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:16.080 he has some good. 0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:19.040 Plays, oh, Kevin, Like mass isn't alone. There's a whole 0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:23.000 you know, cottage industry of people right now saying that, 0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:23.560 you know. 0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:24.560 How can they do it? 0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:28.680 You know, Orlovsky and and everybody they you know, like 0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:30.600 I said, it's like they were sending this kid out 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:32.160 to the front lines in World War One. 0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:32.439 Yeah. 0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:35.320 Well, Orlovsky is not as much about gold as he is. 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.600 He just doesn't think he's ready. He thinks he has 0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:38.440 a lot of developing. 0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:40.960 Okay, let's let's go. Let's get the development. 0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:44.920 The pearl clutches are all the local media like what 0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:46.160 why not Miami? 0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:49.279 That was a winnable game, Like why is like the 0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:53.160 chances to win the number one criteria that play. 0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:56.239 You've been pretty consistent, Paul. If he's ready playing, that's 0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:56.919 what you've been saying. 0:53:57.200 --> 0:54:00.160 Now, I understand watching that game today, I understand why 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:00.800 they were patient. 0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:05.719 He's not ready. He's not. But like I'm telling you, 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:06.520 it's nukele loose. 0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.360 Do you remember like the scene when you know, you know, 0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:13.239 like after the game and they're talking about him, like 0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:15.600 they're they're going all over his stats, and it's like, 0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:22.439 you know, fourteen strikeouts, new league record, thirteen walks. That's 0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:25.719 what it was today. There was enough really good explosive 0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:27.440 plays that you're like, this. 0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:27.960 Is what he does. 0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:30.319 You see him move around the pocket, he found Hunter 0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:32.480 Henry and the bomb at the end of the half, 0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:35.120 and then you see him just a routine throw over 0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.279 the middle. It's like eight miles over the guy's head. 0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:40.560 There was enough of those today too to understand why 0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:42.520 they've been reluctant to play them. 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:45.320 Duce, is this a fair question to ask? What's this 0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:45.960 game look like? 0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:50.120 If Brisette played, Well, it's probably still fourteen nothing at halftime, 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:52.880 and you know, but maybe he doesn't turn it over early, 0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:54.879 and you know, it's probably like a twenty eight to nothing, 0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:56.000 right then instead of it. 0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:58.400 I think it might twenty one. I disagree. 0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:00.480 I think it would have been like, you know, like 0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:03.160 a lower scoring game that they lost by like ten, right. 0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:08.319 Well maybe yeah, but I mean they got with no 0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:08.879 not at all. 0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:13.240 Right, chances of winning were the same, right, I totally agree, 0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:15.160 But I think they might have lost like twenty four 0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:15.800 to fourteen. 0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:17.000 You're not giving them points. 0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:20.440 Yeah, you know, there's you know, it's hard to imagine. 0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:23.320 Was it the second touchdown drive? Yeah, the one the 0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:27.400 Hunter Henry that was almost all passes, right, Yes, although 0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:29.480 that that's the one that had the there was a 0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:31.960 lot going on. Scramble, A scramble throw for the big 0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:34.720 chunk to Hunter Henry. I think happened on the drive 0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:37.080 that eventually ended with a Henry touchdown. There's no way 0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:41.239 that percent eats that touchdown drive, zero point zero, No way. 0:55:41.280 --> 0:55:41.600 That would be. 0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:43.399 My only pushback is like I feel like on each 0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:45.640 of their scoring drives something happened that you probably wouldn't 0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:47.120 have seen out of presette, you know, Like I just 0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:48.680 I don't know where the points would have He's not 0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:49.720 throwing that forty yard. 0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:51.160 Touchdown in twenty five. 0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:53.200 Of the points that Houston got wouldn't have happened if 0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:55.560 per sent it plays. And that's like, that's what I'm saying. 0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:58.360 It would have been a low scoring closer game that 0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:00.920 they similarly, as Fred said, had no chance to win. 0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:03.160 And that's the thing. Are you willing to give the 0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:06.440 other team points in order to develop this kid? Right? 0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:08.560 I think that's that's that's a good way to put it. 0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:10.000 I mean, that's that is really it. 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:13.840 I just sacrificed today right for a benefit. 0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:16.840 Tool, and I would think most fans who want that 0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:18.480 high draft pick would be all in on that. 0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:21.400 Sign me a question to watch today's game over any of. 0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:23.600 The question is is the locker room going to be 0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:24.000 in on that? 0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:25.480 Well, that's a good question, I think. 0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:26.840 So I think the locker room is going to be 0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:28.560 like we are here and you know, they're going to 0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:30.800 take the positives, and you know, I also just I 0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:32.440 think it's a kid that got beat up out there, 0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:34.600 and they like, if I'm Jalen Polk, I'm like, damn, 0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:36.520 I didn't do my part to help my guy today. 0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:36.840 You know. 0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:38.440 If I'm the offensive line, I'm saying, we got that 0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:41.600 kid killed. Like, no, disrespected Jacoby Brissette, but like he's 0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:43.719 a veteran, he's tough, he's big, he can handle it. 0:56:43.760 --> 0:56:44.560 That's why we got him. 0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:47.360 And now it's come on, guys. 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:49.840 That was that was kind of my hope today. You know, 0:56:49.920 --> 0:56:52.880 before you know, Ben Brown came in, but my hope 0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:56.040 was like, you know, whoever it was, Scott Peters or 0:56:56.160 --> 0:57:00.879 Van Pelt or or Girodmeo, you know, gave them the 0:57:01.080 --> 0:57:05.520 you know, the offensive line that like, you know, damn it, 0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:08.359 no matter what happens, you know, And that's what Parcells did. 0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:10.759 When Bledsoe came in, he he got in front of 0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:12.440 the line. He said, I don't care what you have 0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:15.319 to do, do not let them touch this guy. And 0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:17.360 I think you know, and the works. But he had 0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:18.000 better players. 0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:20.720 He never he never really got sacked in his career 0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:22.440 when that wouldn't have happened. 0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:27.240 But now you have you remember that play we got 0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:28.360 turned down by Bruce Smith. 0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:31.320 Yeah, he got sacked like eighteen times or something like 0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:33.520 that as a rookie. They got sacked eighteen times last week. 0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:34.960 No, I don't, but now you have these plays to 0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.440 point to and say, if we protect him, this is 0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:38.600 what this kid is capable of. 0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:41.600 Listen, there's plenty of film for the maid to watch 0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:43.040 and learn from this game. 0:57:43.600 --> 0:57:46.280 That's the thing that was funny about Houston countering and 0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:48.000 scoring a lot quick. It was like he's back on 0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:49.320 the field to get like he got a lot of 0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:51.640 extra plays just because the defense, you know, allowed some 0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:52.160 of those scoring. 0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:55.960 It's like the fifty four yard touchdown back the don. 0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:01.040 Just want to I want to know that. What did 0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:03.960 I say when they had that offensive penalty on first 0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:06.480 down in Mega first at least they got another. 0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:10.000 Place just accelerate the process. 0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:16.280 Chain lawyers, we changed Channon at Lanta rights sigh, it 0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:18.320 is what it is. Drake played well. At the same time, 0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:20.480 the defense was missing too many pieces to overcome the 0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:23.080 short fields that they were having to defend. The penalties 0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:25.720 once again played too much of a factor. Forty one 0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:30.080 points is unacceptable, but he is also understandable. 0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:30.400 All things considered. 0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:32.880 I think a little bit of Chad's all over the place. 0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:36.200 Because I think they're ignoring the why they were on 0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:37.360 so many short fields. 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:38.520 Correct, and they. 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:40.880 Were on short fields because of turnovers by Drake May 0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:44.600 Like those are like you have to evaluate everything. You 0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:47.200 can say for his first start, there was a lot 0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:49.240 to be excited about, but you can't say that was 0:58:49.240 --> 0:58:54.480 a good performance, no, Like based on the NFL average, Yeah, 0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:56.040 you know, but I put. 0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:57.960 Them on the good list. I didn't say, yeah, it's. 0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:00.920 Different, and I like agree with bred. Like if this 0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:04.840 was Derek Carr, like, you know, that's why he stakes, 0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:06.480 you would say that's why he stanks. 0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:09.520 But he was a tease right, Plus that punt return 0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:14.120 early five George five times Houston took over in Patriots territory. 0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:15.840 Five Yes, right. 0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:19.680 Poor punt, poor poor punt covered his worst game today. 0:59:19.760 --> 0:59:22.720 Yeah, and he had a couple of ones. 0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:24.960 All I know I've been harping on this. The golden 0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:27.040 age of punchs continues. Houston's got a weapon. 0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:29.680 Huh? That kid was the first one? Was good? Then? 0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:31.840 Okay? 0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:34.320 I think his hangtime was over five at least one 0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:36.200 of them, towering one. 0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.280 Shanked one out of bounds and in the second one 0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:41.360 gave up some field position there. 0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:45.200 Alex from Raleigh, North Carolina rights may can play, showed 0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.880 some flashes. Hard for him to do much with defensive 0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:50.720 lineman in the backfield office often he can move, he 0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:52.760 can make good throws. Do you all wish he'd started 0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:53.560 from week one? 0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:56.040 Get those? I wish he had started. I wish he 0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:57.000 started one. 0:59:57.040 --> 1:00:00.360 But that's not Revision's history, right, Like, do you really 1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:01.000 pull the tape and. 1:00:01.280 --> 1:00:02.320 Listen to that? Yeah? 1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:04.760 Yeah, Do you really think that he's that much better? 1:00:05.800 --> 1:00:07.919 He would have been that much better now in week 1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:11.280 six than he would have been week one. Like, no, no, 1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:13.080 I so start in week one, right. 1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:16.560 I'm with the panel on the optimism with Drake May 1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:18.560 I predicted this offseason our first draft pick will be 1:00:18.600 --> 1:00:20.880 an offensive line and I don't think Vegas would touch 1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:21.280 that one. 1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:24.280 Correct, Yeah, it certainly seems that way. 1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:26.760 I mean, you'll, you'll, you'll get some sense next week 1:00:26.760 --> 1:00:27.840 against Jacksonville where. 1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:28.440 They're going to be picking him. 1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:31.560 I was saying something, boy, that's a tough one. In 1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:36.080 week seven, I said something to Tamara as we're watching 1:00:36.160 --> 1:00:38.200 the final seconds of this game, and I said, you know, 1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:40.680 call me old fashioned, but the game is built on, 1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:44.400 you know, blocking and tackling in their offensive line and 1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:45.560 their defensive. 1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:46.840 Line leave a lot to be desired. 1:00:46.880 --> 1:00:49.120 And that's why all the will the old school built 1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:50.040 from the inside out. 1:00:50.480 --> 1:00:51.360 And you can certainly see. 1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:53.320 Hey, by the way, what's the news on barb where 1:00:53.360 --> 1:00:55.520 everyone's saying, oh, looks like we'll be getting him back 1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:56.200 sooner than later. 1:00:56.480 --> 1:00:57.960 He tweeted an hour glass. 1:00:58.320 --> 1:00:59.360 No so well. 1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:03.920 On Friday, Mayo was asked about it, and I believe 1:01:04.040 --> 1:01:08.120 the question was posed similar to this, would you say 1:01:08.160 --> 1:01:10.840 that it's fair to suggest that you think there's a 1:01:10.840 --> 1:01:12.960 better chance that he could return this year than you 1:01:13.000 --> 1:01:16.400 did a month ago? When he said, I think that's fair. Okay, 1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:18.400 so you might get a chance to see him back 1:01:18.680 --> 1:01:19.800 at some point before. 1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:21.680 The season's over, I would say, based on what your 1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:22.360 odd said. 1:01:22.160 --> 1:01:25.120 On Friday, okay, I just say along those lines too, defensively, 1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:27.000 and I was just a little disappointed to kind of 1:01:27.000 --> 1:01:30.800 see them back in the Tavai inside McMillan inside, you know, 1:01:30.840 --> 1:01:33.360 Mapu was more in this kind of just primary safety. 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:35.400 He was flat Yeah, he was flat out safety today, 1:01:35.440 --> 1:01:37.480 you know, for the most part with Duggar and then 1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:38.240 he was in and out. 1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:40.800 I just didn't I didn't love it. I didn't love it. 1:01:40.920 --> 1:01:43.320 I think they got to find something new, something new 1:01:43.360 --> 1:01:44.200 with those guys. 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:47.840 Speaking of which, David from Madrid, Spain rights, I'm very 1:01:47.840 --> 1:01:50.240 concerned about the problem the defense is having stopping the run. 1:01:50.360 --> 1:01:52.640 Last week they get a TV bit just they got 1:01:52.680 --> 1:01:55.000 a touchdown by just running, and now they give the 1:01:55.040 --> 1:01:57.080 Texans one hundred and ninety two yards rushing. With Mixon, 1:01:57.120 --> 1:01:59.240 who just came back from injury, it was nice to 1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:00.720 see him get some your to the year, but there 1:02:00.760 --> 1:02:03.959 still aren't enough third down conversions for this team. Let's 1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:05.440 hope that that gets better. 1:02:06.440 --> 1:02:06.720 Yeah. 1:02:06.760 --> 1:02:08.880 I thought there were times when the run defense was 1:02:08.920 --> 1:02:11.080 better today, but the numbers are what they are and 1:02:11.560 --> 1:02:12.760 too many big plays. 1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:15.280 Yeah, it's got to be better. 1:02:15.280 --> 1:02:18.080 You can't allow two hundred yards rushing back to back weeks. 1:02:18.520 --> 1:02:23.000 Matt Morrell, yay, or nay on the HC we do. 1:02:23.240 --> 1:02:25.600 And so as we were talking a lot about the 1:02:25.720 --> 1:02:28.600 Patriots defense, Fred teased it earlier, but let's go to 1:02:28.640 --> 1:02:30.800 the head coach who was not happy with the team's 1:02:30.840 --> 1:02:33.720 defense when they met the media. 1:02:34.960 --> 1:02:37.400 You know, the penalties in the first half, just too many. 1:02:37.880 --> 1:02:41.320 It's the same story over and over again that four turnovers, 1:02:41.320 --> 1:02:42.720 three or four turnovers in the game. 1:02:43.120 --> 1:02:44.520 Can't win if you lose that battle. 1:02:46.160 --> 1:02:50.160 Defensively, I would say just the fundamentals of just tackling 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:50.920 our run. 1:02:50.760 --> 1:02:52.920 Fits have to improve. They have to improve. 1:02:52.960 --> 1:02:54.400 And I told all those guys, I said, you should 1:02:54.400 --> 1:02:57.240 feel like crap today. You should feel like crap. You 1:02:57.320 --> 1:02:59.320 take away those two long runs. We had two runs 1:02:59.320 --> 1:03:02.400 over fifty yard and so I mean, it's just not 1:03:02.440 --> 1:03:05.520 winning football offensively. I thought they did some things that 1:03:05.560 --> 1:03:11.120 were encouraging. Obviously still not enough the turnovers. One was 1:03:11.120 --> 1:03:14.800 on a tip ball, but that's the way the league is. 1:03:15.040 --> 1:03:17.800 I thought Drake made some good decisions out there. I 1:03:17.800 --> 1:03:19.640 thought he had some good reads. I thought he tried 1:03:19.640 --> 1:03:21.200 to get the ball out of his hands. I thought 1:03:21.200 --> 1:03:24.800 he did a good job extending players with his legs 1:03:24.880 --> 1:03:26.120 and picking up first downs. 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:29.600 So just got to be better fire. 1:03:29.360 --> 1:03:36.000 Away Gerard on on Drake, is that kind of what 1:03:36.080 --> 1:03:37.920 you hoped you would see as far as some of 1:03:38.000 --> 1:03:39.760 the things that he was able to do and kind 1:03:39.760 --> 1:03:41.720 of did you have that little bit of okay that 1:03:41.800 --> 1:03:44.800 forty yard dropping the bucket pass to Kaishawn that cuts 1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:46.520 you guys back into the game to end the half. 1:03:47.040 --> 1:03:50.520 Yeah, and look, we fully anticipate or expect him to 1:03:50.600 --> 1:03:53.160 be better going forward. You know, it was his first start. 1:03:53.360 --> 1:03:56.440 Obviously here at home. There was a lot of expectations 1:03:56.440 --> 1:03:58.600 on him. I thought he handled it well, so got 1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:09.840 a build on him. I thought he showed a lot 1:04:09.840 --> 1:04:11.320 of I thought he showed a lot of boys. I 1:04:11.320 --> 1:04:13.000 thought he went out there and controlled the huddle, got 1:04:13.000 --> 1:04:14.640 those guys out of the huddle, and. 1:04:14.600 --> 1:04:15.760 Once again made some place. 1:04:16.000 --> 1:04:18.840 And it's definitely encouraging, you know, as you know, from 1:04:18.840 --> 1:04:21.880 a team wide perspective, right now, we're just we're gonna 1:04:21.920 --> 1:04:23.600 we let him down. You know, it was his first 1:04:23.600 --> 1:04:25.760 game and I feel like I let him down. I'm 1:04:25.800 --> 1:04:28.400 sure all the coaches feel like we let everyone down, 1:04:28.400 --> 1:04:29.400 and it's got to be better. 1:04:31.440 --> 1:04:34.280 Throughout the first few games, you've emphasized the passing game 1:04:34.320 --> 1:04:36.520 as something that needs to improve today, I felt like 1:04:36.560 --> 1:04:39.600 we saw the receivers getting a little more involved. Just 1:04:39.600 --> 1:04:41.640 what would you say to the passing game today, specifically 1:04:41.800 --> 1:04:42.920 as it relates. 1:04:42.600 --> 1:04:43.160 To Drake May. 1:04:43.960 --> 1:04:46.360 Yeah, I would say, first, there were some good pockets. 1:04:46.440 --> 1:04:49.080 Let's start with upfront. I thought the offensive line at 1:04:49.080 --> 1:04:51.880 times definitely had some good pockets to allow the quarterback 1:04:51.920 --> 1:04:55.160 to make those throws. But once again, it's a team 1:04:55.200 --> 1:04:58.840 wide sport, and we don't feel very good about anything. 1:04:58.600 --> 1:05:03.040 Right now, Gerard, with the offensive line, the left side 1:05:03.040 --> 1:05:05.200 going down with Vederian and Michael, how tough is it 1:05:05.280 --> 1:05:08.040 right now to keep a cohesive unit together with how 1:05:08.560 --> 1:05:10.680 far down the depth chart you guys are at that spot. 1:05:10.920 --> 1:05:13.960 It's very tough. And you know, every single week is 1:05:14.000 --> 1:05:16.160 a different combination of players. It's tough to get in. 1:05:16.480 --> 1:05:18.320 You know, it's tough for those guys to really build 1:05:18.320 --> 1:05:19.800 that camaraderie or that communication. 1:05:20.400 --> 1:05:20.480 Uh. 1:05:20.560 --> 1:05:23.400 But again, like the the backup players, they have to 1:05:23.400 --> 1:05:26.400 prepare like their starters every week. And uh, we'll see 1:05:26.440 --> 1:05:28.200 how we came out of this game, but you know, 1:05:28.240 --> 1:05:30.040 it's definitely definitely an issue for us. 1:05:31.480 --> 1:05:31.720 Drid. 1:05:31.760 --> 1:05:36.160 You mentioned the penalties from a coaching staff standpoint, What 1:05:36.280 --> 1:05:39.479 can you do on your end to get those numbers down. 1:05:39.640 --> 1:05:42.400 Look, we talk about it all the time, and and 1:05:42.600 --> 1:05:44.760 you know, Saturday night meetings, we talk about what crew 1:05:44.800 --> 1:05:45.600 is gonna be out there. 1:05:46.080 --> 1:05:47.080 Uh, you know how. 1:05:46.960 --> 1:05:49.520 Frequ what do they call frequently? And we knew that 1:05:49.560 --> 1:05:51.800 this crew is gonna, you know, a high penalty calling crew. 1:05:52.480 --> 1:05:54.080 I thought the second half kind of cleaned it up 1:05:54.080 --> 1:05:56.960 a little bit, but there's way too many penalties in 1:05:57.040 --> 1:05:57.480 the game. 1:05:59.480 --> 1:06:03.880 Right girod A couple questions ago, you said that you, 1:06:04.440 --> 1:06:08.000 along with the players and so on, the coaching staff, 1:06:08.080 --> 1:06:11.680 let Drake down? Could you be more sport What you 1:06:11.720 --> 1:06:13.040 meant by that not. 1:06:12.960 --> 1:06:15.080 Really a coaching staff. Look, we're all I mean, we 1:06:15.080 --> 1:06:16.720 feel like crap right now. And I would say, just 1:06:16.760 --> 1:06:19.640 for a rookie quarterback to go out there and do 1:06:19.800 --> 1:06:21.640 some good things, you know, do some good things. I 1:06:21.680 --> 1:06:23.800 just felt like, you know, we could have did a 1:06:23.800 --> 1:06:27.439 better job supporting Pop. 1:06:27.480 --> 1:06:30.240 Douglas had ninety two receiving yards, most you guys have 1:06:30.280 --> 1:06:32.040 had in more than a year. He seemed to come 1:06:32.040 --> 1:06:34.000 off the field when you go to those two receiver sets. 1:06:34.200 --> 1:06:35.880 Do you think he can function in those? There's a 1:06:35.920 --> 1:06:37.479 way to get him the ball more often. 1:06:37.600 --> 1:06:38.400 Yeah. Absolutely. 1:06:38.480 --> 1:06:40.840 You know, Pop, he's one of our best receivers. He 1:06:40.880 --> 1:06:43.560 can get open against anyone, and you know, those are 1:06:43.600 --> 1:06:44.880 definitely things we got to consider. 1:06:46.360 --> 1:06:48.840 Drod, how do you evaluate Drake's decision making today in 1:06:48.960 --> 1:06:52.479 terms of reads, making sure that they avoided the rush, 1:06:52.760 --> 1:06:53.200 et cetera. 1:06:53.720 --> 1:06:56.040 His reads were good all day. I thought his reads 1:06:56.080 --> 1:06:58.720 were good. I watched the film, obviously, but I thought 1:06:58.760 --> 1:06:59.400 he did a good job. 1:07:00.240 --> 1:07:00.800 Kean roach. 1:07:04.600 --> 1:07:07.080 You talked about the defense the first two drives of 1:07:07.160 --> 1:07:09.080 the game where they came right down the field, school, 1:07:09.160 --> 1:07:11.880 right down the field score. How disappointing was that from 1:07:11.920 --> 1:07:13.720 your perspective? And I think the one hundred and ninety 1:07:13.720 --> 1:07:15.080 two yards on the ground and what do you do 1:07:15.120 --> 1:07:16.880 to get going in the right direction there. 1:07:16.920 --> 1:07:17.880 It's very disappointing. 1:07:17.920 --> 1:07:19.920 And I would say, now at this time, we're kind 1:07:19.920 --> 1:07:22.080 of up and down as far as starting fast, and 1:07:22.760 --> 1:07:25.320 we have to start fast, whether we're on defense or offense, 1:07:25.360 --> 1:07:27.240 and we just we just didn't do that today. 1:07:27.440 --> 1:07:28.720 I thought they did settle down. 1:07:29.720 --> 1:07:33.320 But again it goes back to every single play being important, 1:07:33.680 --> 1:07:35.480 and you could stop them, stop them, stop him, and 1:07:35.480 --> 1:07:36.920 then all of a sudden, it's a fifty yard run. 1:07:37.000 --> 1:07:38.200 Like we can't live in that world. 1:07:38.760 --> 1:07:43.840 Your final question, hege rud over here. You're right in 1:07:43.920 --> 1:07:46.480 terms of play calling for Drake. Did you feel like 1:07:47.000 --> 1:07:49.400 on offense you guys did what you could to help 1:07:49.480 --> 1:07:51.640 him get settled in? Was it sort of how you 1:07:51.680 --> 1:07:54.640 planned or scripted or did things evolve differently? 1:07:54.720 --> 1:07:54.760 No? 1:07:54.880 --> 1:07:55.400 Absolutely. 1:07:55.440 --> 1:07:57.120 You know, we talked about the first fift team as 1:07:57.120 --> 1:07:59.760 we always do, and that was to get him settled in. 1:07:59.800 --> 1:08:02.600 And once again, look he's a rookie making his first start. 1:08:03.280 --> 1:08:06.240 Will there be things that didn't go right for him? 1:08:06.280 --> 1:08:09.160 Yeah? Absolutely, but I thought I thought the way we 1:08:09.200 --> 1:08:10.040 planned that out was good. 1:08:12.280 --> 1:08:14.520 I don't know how many interactions you had with Drake 1:08:14.600 --> 1:08:16.679 during the game, but how did you see him react 1:08:16.720 --> 1:08:19.519 to some of the physical punishment he took throughout? 1:08:19.920 --> 1:08:22.760 Yeah, he took some big hits and you know, slow 1:08:22.760 --> 1:08:24.200 to get up after a couple of those. But he's 1:08:24.240 --> 1:08:26.160 a tough guy and I was encouraged by that. 1:08:27.040 --> 1:08:32.040 Thanks there was a head coach, Gerard Mayo. I was 1:08:32.120 --> 1:08:34.519 encouraged by his opening monologue. I like to hear it 1:08:34.600 --> 1:08:37.400 because we've discussed it a couple of different times here. 1:08:37.880 --> 1:08:41.000 You know, where do you separate winning the game versus 1:08:41.040 --> 1:08:43.960 development of the quarterback. The fan base is obviously jacked 1:08:44.040 --> 1:08:46.479 up and excited about to play the quarterback because they 1:08:46.479 --> 1:08:47.919 see hope the head coach. 1:08:47.760 --> 1:08:49.240 Is pissed and I like to see that. 1:08:49.520 --> 1:08:50.720 What are you going to do about it? 1:08:50.760 --> 1:08:54.599 Well, he's he's got very limited options, very limited options. 1:08:54.840 --> 1:08:57.360 They just got to play better. I mean that's there's 1:08:57.400 --> 1:08:59.760 no single wand you can wave with these guys. And 1:08:59.800 --> 1:09:01.880 I mean, unfortunately with the personnel that they're that they're 1:09:01.960 --> 1:09:04.439 rolling out there, they just there's no well, there's no depth, 1:09:04.439 --> 1:09:07.720 there's nothing to really tap to change. So I don't 1:09:07.760 --> 1:09:09.400 know they got They're gonna have to. They're gonna have 1:09:09.400 --> 1:09:11.479 struggles against the better teams with this defense this year. 1:09:11.520 --> 1:09:13.200 It's just kind of a fact of matter. Maybe Barbore 1:09:13.240 --> 1:09:14.920 comes back and gives them a little bit of a boost, 1:09:14.960 --> 1:09:17.840 But I think Bentley's done that though, right, No, No, 1:09:17.880 --> 1:09:19.479 not at all. And I think you know, Bentley is 1:09:19.479 --> 1:09:21.680 is maybe the biggest piece of that. And you know, 1:09:21.720 --> 1:09:24.160 not to say that he would fix everything, but him 1:09:24.160 --> 1:09:25.840 in the middle, everything he brings in the middle of 1:09:25.880 --> 1:09:28.160 the tackling. I just think that's the biggest piece right 1:09:28.160 --> 1:09:30.120 now that they're missing on this defense and that, and 1:09:30.240 --> 1:09:32.360 that's just counting the guys that they started the year with. 1:09:32.400 --> 1:09:33.880 I think they've got, you know, a ways to go 1:09:33.960 --> 1:09:35.840 next year to get you know, more personnel to build 1:09:35.840 --> 1:09:36.519 this defense up. 1:09:36.640 --> 1:09:41.599 And you could just judge him by the tremendous amount 1:09:41.600 --> 1:09:43.439 of churning they're doing and the practice squad on the 1:09:43.520 --> 1:09:46.759 roster where there's different defensive linemen picked up, dropped it everything. 1:09:46.840 --> 1:09:49.599 It's like, get him out of here, let's try something else. 1:09:49.720 --> 1:09:54.960 They're trying. But it's not like, you know, Reggie White's 1:09:55.000 --> 1:09:57.360 not available on waivers, you know, so these guys are 1:09:57.400 --> 1:09:59.960 available for a reason. And do they see a spark 1:10:00.160 --> 1:10:03.120 something that they're coaching staff can maybe get that it's 1:10:03.160 --> 1:10:05.439 gonna be a slight improvement over what they had. 1:10:05.520 --> 1:10:07.280 I don't know if it's a direct straight line to it, 1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:08.960 but I would look at the first couple drives where 1:10:09.000 --> 1:10:10.400 they couldn't get a stop and they're just you know, 1:10:10.479 --> 1:10:13.080 C J. Strouz just like, well, I got, you know, 1:10:13.120 --> 1:10:14.400 And then you started to see a little bit of 1:10:14.400 --> 1:10:15.920 pressure and a little key on White and then all 1:10:15.960 --> 1:10:18.080 of a sudden they started getting stops and then those 1:10:18.160 --> 1:10:18.559 dry up. 1:10:18.840 --> 1:10:20.720 I mean, well they started blitzing a little bit, and 1:10:20.760 --> 1:10:22.960 then when Tunssel went out, I do I do think 1:10:23.000 --> 1:10:25.519 it they got more pressure when they took advantage of that. 1:10:25.640 --> 1:10:28.160 But I liked the There was a one third down 1:10:28.160 --> 1:10:33.680 that I loved with the Christian Ellis and Mapu on 1:10:34.000 --> 1:10:36.040 a blitz, like you know, just doing something a little 1:10:36.040 --> 1:10:38.839 bit different. There was another one later that it wasn't 1:10:38.880 --> 1:10:43.320 a blitz per se, but they had, you know, one 1:10:43.360 --> 1:10:47.160 of those old time Belichick kind of rushes with five guys, 1:10:47.160 --> 1:10:50.360 but they were dropping different guys and rushing different guys. 1:10:50.160 --> 1:10:51.840 And don't know who's coming, and they confused them. 1:10:52.160 --> 1:10:53.840 So I did think that they did some things as 1:10:53.880 --> 1:10:55.360 that you know, this is a good play right here 1:10:55.400 --> 1:10:57.400 with you know, you get two guys, you send and 1:10:57.439 --> 1:10:59.160 they get they get home. That I believe that was 1:10:59.160 --> 1:10:59.960 a third down too. 1:11:00.800 --> 1:11:02.519 That's the only way to getting pressure is by doing 1:11:02.520 --> 1:11:03.920 stuff pressure. 1:11:04.000 --> 1:11:05.840 That's what you need to do, Like you need to 1:11:05.840 --> 1:11:07.519 figure out like you know, we've Mike and I have 1:11:07.560 --> 1:11:08.639 talked about this a million times. 1:11:08.640 --> 1:11:09.800 Like they don't have a lot of guys. 1:11:10.040 --> 1:11:12.560 They traded Jude on Barber's out, They don't have a 1:11:12.560 --> 1:11:14.320 lot of guys that are gonna win one on one matchups. 1:11:15.160 --> 1:11:17.320 So that's what you have to do to get pressure. 1:11:17.080 --> 1:11:19.840 And they didn't get a lot today. But I do 1:11:19.880 --> 1:11:21.439 think at time, you know, this is a play that 1:11:21.800 --> 1:11:24.680 you know why it affects that pass, you know, and 1:11:24.760 --> 1:11:27.200 that's that that leads to an incomplete. 1:11:26.800 --> 1:11:28.960 Pass on a third down. That those are the plays 1:11:29.000 --> 1:11:29.680 they need more of those. 1:11:29.760 --> 1:11:31.559 Yeah, that's right to your point. I mean, Kristen Ella's 1:11:31.880 --> 1:11:34.200 probably coming in this year special teamer, you know, blitzing 1:11:34.240 --> 1:11:35.400 a special team or on defense. 1:11:35.560 --> 1:11:37.280 You know how many snaps does he play today? You 1:11:37.320 --> 1:11:38.200 shall have it in the morning. 1:11:38.240 --> 1:11:39.880 But he played a lot, played more than I think 1:11:39.920 --> 1:11:41.040 the coaching staff would. 1:11:40.800 --> 1:11:41.960 Has been one of their He's been one of their 1:11:41.960 --> 1:11:44.360 third down covers, linebackers. I mean ever since they lost that. 1:11:44.560 --> 1:11:47.559 Correct let's see the TPX spot line is eight five 1:11:47.600 --> 1:11:50.040 to five Pats five hundred. Eldred in North Carolina has 1:11:50.040 --> 1:11:52.280 been waiting patiently. You're next on the Patriots post game show. 1:11:52.280 --> 1:11:52.679 Eldred. 1:11:52.920 --> 1:11:55.600 Hello, hey. 1:11:56.520 --> 1:12:03.720 Man, Okay, looting courage back. Yeah, I made it to defense. 1:12:04.160 --> 1:12:08.040 But it's like what I saw in North Carolina. He's 1:12:08.080 --> 1:12:10.880 good fat, it's the short step, but he got his 1:12:10.880 --> 1:12:13.000 feet sick. If he's trying to do things, you know, 1:12:13.080 --> 1:12:16.760 But Fred, I'm with you. Let him play, darn it. 1:12:16.920 --> 1:12:19.640 If he makes mistake, learn from him. Just let it. 1:12:19.760 --> 1:12:21.720 Just take your stringing wheel off. I didn't like to 1:12:21.800 --> 1:12:22.599 last two minutes. 1:12:24.960 --> 1:12:28.200 Well, they didn't want to. Like it's I don't know. 1:12:28.320 --> 1:12:31.720 Some coaches would say that's kind of like bad sportsmanship, 1:12:31.880 --> 1:12:34.120 Like you're out of the game and you're still throwing 1:12:34.120 --> 1:12:37.559 the ball and you know, okay, so should we blitz 1:12:37.640 --> 1:12:39.519 your guy and bury him? 1:12:39.640 --> 1:12:42.599 You know, I disagree. Like they were trying too. 1:12:44.320 --> 1:12:47.920 They were running it on first and second down. 1:12:47.920 --> 1:12:49.639 They were in the ball twice on that last drive. 1:12:49.720 --> 1:12:53.320 The rest of we're all passes deep incomplete deep to Douglas, 1:12:53.520 --> 1:12:56.840 short right to Douglas for six yards incomplete short left 1:12:56.840 --> 1:12:58.160 throw away. I know that was the player that he 1:12:58.240 --> 1:13:00.120 just kind of like threw it like that underhand. And 1:13:00.920 --> 1:13:04.040 the last play was a pass to Polk that converted. 1:13:04.400 --> 1:13:08.000 That was a third down play. Like I'm with Fred, 1:13:08.080 --> 1:13:10.480 like I don't want to get him take him unnecessarily 1:13:10.560 --> 1:13:12.760 hits in a game that's that's long since decided. 1:13:13.080 --> 1:13:15.240 Thank you for the call, Eldred in that and let's 1:13:15.280 --> 1:13:17.080 live for another day. I mean the game's out of 1:13:17.080 --> 1:13:19.040 hand at that point in time. Let's move on Tony 1:13:19.040 --> 1:13:19.679 from Canada. 1:13:20.040 --> 1:13:24.840 Your next Uh hit the wrong button. I think that's 1:13:24.880 --> 1:13:25.240 my bad. 1:13:26.400 --> 1:13:28.400 Canada, call back again if you would please. 1:13:29.960 --> 1:13:31.360 You're next on the Patriots post game. 1:13:33.360 --> 1:13:39.679 Saw flame Canada. 1:13:41.240 --> 1:13:46.320 Oh that okay. 1:13:46.280 --> 1:13:47.040 What do you got pat? 1:13:47.320 --> 1:13:52.800 No, that was just that was me. I just gotta 1:13:52.800 --> 1:13:55.680 ask one question about Drake Bay's performance, Like, do you 1:13:55.680 --> 1:13:59.800 think when he came out of the draft, like the 1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:03.240 big thing about him, like a huge selling point was 1:14:03.760 --> 1:14:07.320 he was probably the best quarterback in the draft going 1:14:07.360 --> 1:14:09.880 over the mill. But do you think, like when they 1:14:10.080 --> 1:14:14.000 structure their first and second down offense that still have 1:14:14.160 --> 1:14:16.639 more passes designed to go over the middle, where he's 1:14:16.680 --> 1:14:20.760 probably a lot better in that situation than going to 1:14:20.800 --> 1:14:21.480 the sideline. 1:14:21.600 --> 1:14:24.479 Didn't do the vast majority of the throwers go Thanks 1:14:24.479 --> 1:14:25.439 for the COVID the middle today. 1:14:25.479 --> 1:14:27.280 I thought, so Patty might be drunk. So I'm just 1:14:27.280 --> 1:14:27.840 gonna come. 1:14:28.320 --> 1:14:32.120 That's always there's always a possibility. Yeah, no, I know what, 1:14:32.600 --> 1:14:34.280 but I know what Pat's talking about. I mean, he 1:14:34.360 --> 1:14:37.400 is considered to be very accurate, uh down the middle. 1:14:37.479 --> 1:14:40.519 I thought they tried a lot of passes, a lot 1:14:40.520 --> 1:14:41.400 of crossing routes. 1:14:41.479 --> 1:14:45.040 Yes, you know. Yeah. Some of them were really good, 1:14:45.040 --> 1:14:46.800 like the touchdown a Douglas, and some of them were 1:14:46.840 --> 1:14:48.280 really bad. Yeah. 1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:51.120 I mean that other one where you said Paul Douglas 1:14:51.120 --> 1:14:53.320 had to reach back and catch it. Had that one 1:14:53.360 --> 1:14:54.680 been in front, that might have been. 1:14:54.800 --> 1:14:56.880 I was talking about one that reached back and bounced 1:14:56.920 --> 1:14:58.240 off his hands up into the air. 1:14:58.360 --> 1:15:00.760 But there was another pass like where he actually caught it. 1:15:00.800 --> 1:15:03.800 But if that pass had been in front, he's heading today. 1:15:04.000 --> 1:15:05.880 I'm talking about Freddy. I mean, and I mean need 1:15:05.920 --> 1:15:10.240 so long. Those kinds of places, the ground off the shoelaces, 1:15:10.280 --> 1:15:10.679 these are. 1:15:10.600 --> 1:15:12.759 All over the middle. These are these are the passes 1:15:12.800 --> 1:15:13.599 that we're talking about. 1:15:13.840 --> 1:15:15.920 Those are the ones where I think they're gonna you know, 1:15:16.000 --> 1:15:18.000 he's got to drill down on it because he's got 1:15:18.000 --> 1:15:20.240 those balls. Yeah, you know, fred This is for you. 1:15:20.240 --> 1:15:23.400 I'm going to butcher this. This is from anakin from Tach. 1:15:23.680 --> 1:15:28.280 What's the tatoo? Very good? Thank you, hello, Jens. Yes, 1:15:28.320 --> 1:15:30.639 the outcome was bad. However, this was the most normal 1:15:30.680 --> 1:15:34.439 and efficient the offenses looked all season, even though it 1:15:34.479 --> 1:15:36.640 was inconsistent. May did as well as expected for his 1:15:36.720 --> 1:15:39.360 first start. There is a ton to be hopeful for. 1:15:39.640 --> 1:15:43.479 Well, what's just kind of a hothead to be honest. 1:15:43.560 --> 1:15:45.200 What's the story of the week, Then, what's it going 1:15:45.240 --> 1:15:47.280 to be going forward? There's a ton to be hopeful for, 1:15:47.640 --> 1:15:48.800 or there's going to be the. 1:15:48.720 --> 1:15:51.360 Story of the week. The story will be how how 1:15:51.479 --> 1:15:56.280 I give myself the wonders? Tuesday at noon, now, right. 1:15:55.360 --> 1:15:57.240 That's when we pushed Paul into the corner of like. 1:15:57.240 --> 1:15:57.639 That's it. 1:15:57.920 --> 1:16:00.680 I hate him. He's not not going to do it 1:16:00.680 --> 1:16:02.800 to me about me. 1:16:02.880 --> 1:16:05.160 It's the thing about Paul. If all the fans were 1:16:05.240 --> 1:16:09.320 really really upset today, would. 1:16:10.360 --> 1:16:14.559 I'll give you an example, Like someone tweeted Evan at 1:16:14.560 --> 1:16:18.919 the half ripping May for his footwork on the touchdown 1:16:18.960 --> 1:16:23.280 pass to Booty, Like I think that's absurd. I think 1:16:23.280 --> 1:16:24.519 that is absolutely absurd. 1:16:24.840 --> 1:16:29.160 Like I started the whole, the whole they thought his 1:16:29.200 --> 1:16:29.960 footwork was bad. 1:16:29.960 --> 1:16:33.440 On that guy. The guy that emailed Evan was TC McCartney. 1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:34.160 But that's beside. 1:16:36.720 --> 1:16:37.160 That's good. 1:16:38.880 --> 1:16:42.160 But I I spent, like you know what, Matt and 1:16:42.200 --> 1:16:44.879 I came down, we opened the show and we both agreed, 1:16:44.960 --> 1:16:47.840 like there's a lot to be excited about, but like 1:16:48.920 --> 1:16:51.880 we're getting lost in this like efficiency with the offense that. 1:16:51.840 --> 1:16:53.320 Didn't happen today. 1:16:53.360 --> 1:16:55.880 It didn't, but they made some big plays on in 1:16:55.920 --> 1:16:59.639 the passing game that they haven't made. They had over 1:16:59.680 --> 1:17:02.320 a hunt undred more yards passing today than they average 1:17:02.320 --> 1:17:03.360 in the first five games. 1:17:03.920 --> 1:17:04.799 Like that happened. 1:17:04.880 --> 1:17:07.400 Yeah, Like there were enough things that were better today 1:17:07.840 --> 1:17:10.160 to accentuate without making other stuff. 1:17:09.960 --> 1:17:12.240 Up and the bad would you call that progress. 1:17:13.080 --> 1:17:15.200 In some areas? Yeah, they couldn't run the ball worth 1:17:15.240 --> 1:17:16.240 of damn correct. 1:17:16.000 --> 1:17:17.880 And the bad things they can go to the film 1:17:17.920 --> 1:17:20.160 and they can show MEY say, seem Drake, this is 1:17:20.160 --> 1:17:22.200 what we're talking about. This is the stuff we've been 1:17:22.200 --> 1:17:24.800 trying to work with you. But now he's doing it 1:17:24.880 --> 1:17:27.479 in live action. You'll learn faster. 1:17:27.600 --> 1:17:30.160 And I promise that there were also enough plays that 1:17:30.280 --> 1:17:33.240 like just sort of unfolded and the throws were just bad. 1:17:33.840 --> 1:17:36.360 Like, there were enough of those today too. I think people. 1:17:36.080 --> 1:17:38.679 Are just ignoring those, all right, so they're only talking 1:17:38.720 --> 1:17:39.400 about the good ones. 1:17:39.479 --> 1:17:40.120 I can't believe it. 1:17:40.040 --> 1:17:41.760 Took me this long to think of this question for you. 1:17:41.840 --> 1:17:43.759 But just listen to your voice here for a second. 1:17:43.840 --> 1:17:44.519 Are you pissed? 1:17:44.760 --> 1:17:48.400 Do you think that they wasted five games? I'm not pissed, 1:17:48.800 --> 1:17:53.320 you know, but I yes, I don't see why they 1:17:53.320 --> 1:17:56.640 didn't start him earlier. Okay, yeah, that's just me. 1:17:57.280 --> 1:17:59.720 But again, we you know, we talk about this. We've 1:17:59.720 --> 1:18:02.960 been talking about this in September on unfiltered. We don't 1:18:02.960 --> 1:18:06.760 know what the coaches know, Like maybe you know, this 1:18:06.880 --> 1:18:09.920 week he was light years better than he you know, 1:18:10.240 --> 1:18:13.720 light years more ready than he was Week one for 1:18:13.760 --> 1:18:15.920 some reason like whatever. They've been working with him in 1:18:15.960 --> 1:18:18.760 the classroom and maybe in week one, like he had 1:18:18.960 --> 1:18:21.519 absolutely no clue we have we don't know that. I 1:18:21.680 --> 1:18:25.639 doubt it, but it's a possibility, so I'm not That's 1:18:25.640 --> 1:18:26.559 why I'm not pissed. 1:18:26.600 --> 1:18:28.479 So I know that this is this is an unfair 1:18:28.560 --> 1:18:35.080 hypothetical because it's you know, it's impossible. If you if 1:18:35.080 --> 1:18:39.040 he played exactly the way he did today all of 1:18:39.080 --> 1:18:41.000 the other games, the first five games, what do you 1:18:41.000 --> 1:18:42.000 think the record would be. 1:18:43.000 --> 1:18:45.920 If he played exactly the way he played today all 1:18:45.960 --> 1:18:48.280 those games, I think the record they'd be lucky to 1:18:48.320 --> 1:18:48.960 be one in five. 1:18:49.080 --> 1:18:51.760 Yeah, okay, so that's that's what I think too, And 1:18:51.800 --> 1:18:54.920 I know that's unfair because I mean, it would stand. 1:18:56.840 --> 1:18:59.000 But all those other games, they didn't have the turnal. 1:18:58.760 --> 1:19:01.120 They were minus three in Eternal, right, Yes, I think 1:19:01.160 --> 1:19:02.599 two and four would be out of the question. 1:19:02.680 --> 1:19:03.440 That's why. 1:19:03.240 --> 1:19:05.720 But I would say, like, you know, to be fair. 1:19:05.720 --> 1:19:09.360 That's why I said it's an unfair hypothetical because anybody 1:19:10.000 --> 1:19:14.160 could rightly expect the guy playing in his first game 1:19:14.320 --> 1:19:16.880 is going to be better in his fifth and sixth game, right, Like, 1:19:16.960 --> 1:19:18.240 that's just natural. 1:19:17.960 --> 1:19:19.320 Progressive hope, you hope. 1:19:19.400 --> 1:19:22.120 Yeah, Now, some guys don't get better, but you hope 1:19:22.120 --> 1:19:24.559 that this guy will get better. It won't turn the 1:19:24.560 --> 1:19:27.160 ball over three times five straight games. 1:19:27.360 --> 1:19:28.120 If that happens. 1:19:28.920 --> 1:19:31.040 Something tells me when we're doing the postgame show after 1:19:31.040 --> 1:19:33.360 the fifth straight game of three turnovers, it's gonna be 1:19:33.360 --> 1:19:35.759 a little bit of a different tune, right right right. 1:19:36.160 --> 1:19:39.920 Harry and Connecticut says that it is within reach. At 1:19:39.960 --> 1:19:41.479 times this game seemed winnable. 1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:44.479 That's a stretch. This game was not winnable from the 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:45.200 first two drives. 1:19:45.600 --> 1:19:49.000 It was one moment when it what was it twenty 1:19:49.000 --> 1:19:53.360 one to fourteen, where like did make a stop here 1:19:53.640 --> 1:19:54.320 and they didn't. 1:19:54.439 --> 1:19:58.240 It wasn't ever that it wasn't there was fourteen seven. 1:19:58.280 --> 1:20:00.880 They immediately made it was twenty one seven. Then twenty 1:20:00.920 --> 1:20:01.479 four to seven. 1:20:01.720 --> 1:20:03.759 You had to come out in the third quarter score 1:20:04.080 --> 1:20:04.679 and play perch. 1:20:04.880 --> 1:20:07.160 It was twenty seven to fourteen at one point. 1:20:07.240 --> 1:20:10.000 Yeah, they scored to make it twenty seven fourteen. It 1:20:10.040 --> 1:20:11.160 was twenty seven seven, No. 1:20:11.240 --> 1:20:11.439 I know. 1:20:11.600 --> 1:20:15.720 And the only time that it flickered went out the 1:20:15.720 --> 1:20:19.040 window on the second player of the first second half. Right, yeah, 1:20:19.080 --> 1:20:20.840 that was it, you get it was fourteen seven to 1:20:20.880 --> 1:20:23.479 get the ball or maybe, like I never thought that 1:20:23.520 --> 1:20:26.360 game was in doubt. Once Houston scored twice, bang bang, 1:20:26.439 --> 1:20:29.400 fourteen nothing, game was over right, and Houston thought it too, 1:20:29.479 --> 1:20:30.800 And then they had to go in the locker room 1:20:30.960 --> 1:20:33.320 probably got bitched at by their coach and said, you know, 1:20:33.520 --> 1:20:35.400 in this league, you have to play four quarters. They 1:20:35.400 --> 1:20:37.120 came out and put the game away in the third quarter, 1:20:37.280 --> 1:20:37.519 just to. 1:20:37.439 --> 1:20:39.479 Finish what Harry had to say. I'm happy with May's 1:20:39.479 --> 1:20:41.960 performance today with the service of quarterback play, I hope 1:20:41.960 --> 1:20:43.479 he's more than the service of Well that's me saying 1:20:43.520 --> 1:20:46.280 that it allows the Patriots to better analyze the holes. 1:20:46.080 --> 1:20:47.600 On this team, don't they know? 1:20:48.200 --> 1:20:49.599 I mean, I don't think you need to be amos 1:20:49.640 --> 1:20:51.599 Alonzo Stag to analyze the holes on this team. 1:20:51.640 --> 1:20:54.240 Do you No, but I see what he's saying. If 1:20:54.280 --> 1:20:58.439 you have a guy who can actually running run a 1:20:58.600 --> 1:21:01.439 passing offense, yes you can have a little bit better 1:21:01.479 --> 1:21:06.599 evaluation of Booty and the guy Paul doesn't pop, Doug. 1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:08.599 Don't do that. 1:21:09.360 --> 1:21:11.320 Mike had it right though, Like, if you can be 1:21:11.560 --> 1:21:13.519 like all the other teams and have as semblance of 1:21:13.520 --> 1:21:15.759 a passing this is how you need to twenty fight 1:21:16.280 --> 1:21:18.600 in the modern NFL. Mike is right, Like, that's what 1:21:19.040 --> 1:21:21.679 I come away saying. We can be like everybody else. 1:21:21.720 --> 1:21:23.200 Now we don't have to throw for one hundred and 1:21:23.240 --> 1:21:25.559 twenty yards and try to win and hope the other 1:21:25.600 --> 1:21:27.599 team pukes on itself so we can win, right. 1:21:28.200 --> 1:21:29.280 Paul, I thought it was funny too. 1:21:29.280 --> 1:21:29.559 This game. 1:21:29.560 --> 1:21:31.120 We haven't really talked about it. So this is kind 1:21:31.120 --> 1:21:33.439 of Paul's anti game with the rushing attack, because it 1:21:33.479 --> 1:21:36.080 was he dide a pretty good job, but like Houston 1:21:36.160 --> 1:21:37.800 just gashed him for a couple of big scoring plays. 1:21:37.840 --> 1:21:40.000 You know, But Mike, you're smart enough to know why 1:21:40.000 --> 1:21:40.880 did Houston win the game? 1:21:40.880 --> 1:21:42.280 What did they do early in the game, how they 1:21:42.600 --> 1:21:44.280 did they established the run or did they just throw 1:21:44.280 --> 1:21:44.960 the balls at the bands? 1:21:45.040 --> 1:21:45.160 Right? 1:21:45.200 --> 1:21:45.400 Yeah? 1:21:45.439 --> 1:21:47.639 Yeah, three touchdown passes don't boom. 1:21:47.840 --> 1:21:49.920 And the broadcasters, at least at the beginning of the 1:21:49.960 --> 1:21:53.160 game were crediting the patriots ren defense, which wasn't terrible 1:21:53.280 --> 1:21:55.280 out of the shoot when it was fourteen and f thing. 1:21:55.920 --> 1:21:59.599 I'd actually credit those random runs that Houston kept having 1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:01.680 for the reason why it's that it's twenty eight. 1:22:01.800 --> 1:22:03.760 Nothing like Mike and I caught a score. I don't 1:22:03.880 --> 1:22:04.960 like it kept a scoring out. 1:22:05.040 --> 1:22:07.320 Yeah, they kept giving the Patriots chances to get off 1:22:07.360 --> 1:22:09.599 the field by running a couple of times and setting 1:22:09.640 --> 1:22:10.400 up third downs. 1:22:10.520 --> 1:22:13.519 Finlay in Scotland writes, despite the blowout, I actually came 1:22:13.560 --> 1:22:16.000 away excited because we have a quarterback that potentially can 1:22:16.040 --> 1:22:19.120 compete at the modern NFL level. I love that Paul 1:22:19.560 --> 1:22:22.160 come on. I in my brain saying they shouldn't be 1:22:22.160 --> 1:22:23.880 on the good or bad list, But Fred is my 1:22:24.040 --> 1:22:25.639 heart saying we. 1:22:25.560 --> 1:22:29.240 Got our guy. All in Cass, I'm in all in Cash, 1:22:29.439 --> 1:22:29.840 I'm in. 1:22:30.040 --> 1:22:32.120 There's a ceiling there that you know you want. You 1:22:32.280 --> 1:22:33.840 want to see him try to get to you know, 1:22:33.920 --> 1:22:36.800 like that's what's exciting. It doesn't feel like every week 1:22:36.840 --> 1:22:38.439 with him. I mean, you know, he's look, he's got 1:22:38.439 --> 1:22:40.439 to progress. But it doesn't feel like even if he 1:22:40.479 --> 1:22:42.920 plays well, it's like everything's got to go perfect around him, 1:22:42.960 --> 1:22:46.080 you know, like there's might be at some point a 1:22:46.080 --> 1:22:48.160 little bit of leeway. You know, maybe, oh we don't 1:22:48.160 --> 1:22:49.960 have a great perfect game. But you know what, he 1:22:50.000 --> 1:22:51.840 can throw forty yard bomb into the end zone that 1:22:51.840 --> 1:22:53.400 that you know, drops right in the bucket and. 1:22:53.320 --> 1:22:56.320 Hey, you know people couldn't see it because we weren't 1:22:56.360 --> 1:22:58.600 on camera. But after that throw at the end of 1:22:58.600 --> 1:23:00.800 the half, you know, we all got up and the 1:23:00.880 --> 1:23:02.800 back and congratulated each other. 1:23:03.320 --> 1:23:07.000 Was actually I put the cigar down. 1:23:07.800 --> 1:23:10.480 I said, we got our guy. 1:23:10.800 --> 1:23:12.560 That was there's no cheering in the press box with 1:23:12.680 --> 1:23:13.760 there was a little light. 1:23:13.920 --> 1:23:15.959 Uh it was under. 1:23:15.760 --> 1:23:17.360 Little little blood, little blood flow. 1:23:17.640 --> 1:23:20.759 There was a little blood there was. There was cheering 1:23:20.760 --> 1:23:21.800 in the press box today. 1:23:21.840 --> 1:23:23.240 Down in the front row, I don't know, if you know, 1:23:23.320 --> 1:23:27.160 I saw that some kids the ball that Schultz dropped 1:23:27.160 --> 1:23:30.080 and Jones caught for the pick in the end zone. 1:23:30.200 --> 1:23:34.719 Some kid, I don't know who he was, like a writer. 1:23:35.320 --> 1:23:37.120 I don't know who it was in the front row. 1:23:37.680 --> 1:23:38.240 He looked young. 1:23:38.479 --> 1:23:41.439 He looked like a young Maybe it was these kids 1:23:41.479 --> 1:23:44.200 on journalism ethics and That's why it's good. 1:23:44.200 --> 1:23:45.720 We're up in the back and no one's looking over. 1:23:46.240 --> 1:23:48.800 One final point from light, which is the understatement of 1:23:48.840 --> 1:23:51.519 the day. Wolf has a mountain of work to do 1:23:51.560 --> 1:23:53.360 in the off season to add talent to this team, 1:23:53.720 --> 1:23:56.759 which is mismatched against almost every team they face. 1:23:57.840 --> 1:24:00.400 True that, but I don't know. 1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:02.200 I mean, like yes, and though I like. 1:24:02.280 --> 1:24:04.479 Who's got a better roster? The Jacksonville Jaguars and the 1:24:04.479 --> 1:24:07.600 new Etoln Patriots next week in London. Mike Jacksonville right, 1:24:08.560 --> 1:24:10.160 probably by leaps and bounds. 1:24:09.840 --> 1:24:12.960 But they also are in a vastly different spot. 1:24:13.640 --> 1:24:15.960 Their owner told them they this is the best team 1:24:15.960 --> 1:24:16.640 in Jacksonville. 1:24:16.640 --> 1:24:18.759 They're supposed to be. He's wrong about by the way. 1:24:18.640 --> 1:24:22.000 They're supposed to be battling for a playoff spot, not 1:24:22.080 --> 1:24:25.040 being one and five right the Patriots. I mean, I 1:24:25.080 --> 1:24:28.439 know that sounds awful, But would you think the record 1:24:28.439 --> 1:24:29.679 was going to be when they were going to London? 1:24:30.840 --> 1:24:32.960 Because the best I heard was one in five or zero. 1:24:32.800 --> 1:24:35.400 And six somewhere in that vicinities. 1:24:35.400 --> 1:24:37.000 What are you telling me, Dennis Green? They are with 1:24:37.080 --> 1:24:38.040 the what you thought they are. 1:24:38.160 --> 1:24:40.840 Yeah, now, I would agree. I think if you matched 1:24:40.880 --> 1:24:44.120 up player for player. I think Jacksonville probably has more talent, yes. 1:24:43.920 --> 1:24:45.920 But like, but if he gets to Patriots year three 1:24:45.960 --> 1:24:49.400 of of Rice and then that's that's that's a fairer cut. 1:24:49.640 --> 1:24:53.880 Before they traded judea on and Barmart you know, was 1:24:53.920 --> 1:24:57.200 out and Bentley was I thought the ceiling for this 1:24:57.320 --> 1:25:00.000 season was going to be six games. That was before 1:25:00.120 --> 1:25:04.479 for all these losses. So like, I'm not, like, I'm 1:25:04.479 --> 1:25:07.200 not beside myself with the record, are you little? 1:25:07.479 --> 1:25:09.439 Do you think the coaches beside himself with the record 1:25:09.800 --> 1:25:11.080 or the staff is beside themselves. 1:25:11.080 --> 1:25:13.120 Don't think they're beside themselves with the record. I think 1:25:13.120 --> 1:25:15.120 they're beside themselves with the state of play. 1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:18.320 Well that's the that's I agree. 1:25:18.520 --> 1:25:19.719 I agree, Like it's. 1:25:21.400 --> 1:25:25.320 Tuesday. Yeah, that's you can be a you could take 1:25:25.320 --> 1:25:27.240 credit for that one. You know, you'll be in my office. 1:25:28.120 --> 1:25:30.280 You can look at your team and say, you know, 1:25:30.479 --> 1:25:32.200 you know, our guys aren't as good as their guys, 1:25:32.240 --> 1:25:34.600 but we don't have to be having false starts. We 1:25:34.640 --> 1:25:37.800 don't have to be making bonehead plays, you know, just 1:25:37.840 --> 1:25:41.599 because our guys, you know, weren't Alabama, you know, first 1:25:41.640 --> 1:25:42.560 round picks. 1:25:42.360 --> 1:25:44.800 I mean second, second time they've been called for the 1:25:44.880 --> 1:25:48.719 legal formation there on the kickoff right second time six games. 1:25:49.439 --> 1:25:52.360 You know, those kinds of things don't require any talent. 1:25:53.160 --> 1:25:56.840 And you know, like on the blog, like people are 1:25:57.560 --> 1:25:59.320 I don't know where they're getting this from, if they're 1:26:00.160 --> 1:26:03.240 from their own insight or whether you know, it's people 1:26:03.280 --> 1:26:06.920 that they're reading or listening to, but they are really 1:26:06.960 --> 1:26:09.960 really hitting our coaching staff hard. 1:26:09.680 --> 1:26:11.360 You know, taking it yep, really. 1:26:11.640 --> 1:26:14.320 And you know, I don't know, but like I don't 1:26:14.439 --> 1:26:17.519 I can't judge them because it's chicken and egg kind 1:26:17.560 --> 1:26:19.960 of thing, like, Okay, the players aren't that good, so 1:26:20.400 --> 1:26:22.439 how can you judge the coaching staff? Oh, the coaching 1:26:22.479 --> 1:26:24.600 staff's not good? How can you judge the player? You know, 1:26:24.640 --> 1:26:28.240 you don't know where to where the blame pie goes. 1:26:28.840 --> 1:26:31.200 But the people in the blog right from the beginning 1:26:31.240 --> 1:26:34.240 of the game really hitting the coaching staff very hard. 1:26:34.320 --> 1:26:36.880 Twenty one accepted penalties in the last two weeks is 1:26:36.960 --> 1:26:37.759 not good. 1:26:38.400 --> 1:26:39.360 Matt Tell's progress. 1:26:39.400 --> 1:26:40.679 You got to see progress from right. 1:26:40.600 --> 1:26:43.719 Guys, Tony and Canada. You're next from the Patriots postgame 1:26:43.720 --> 1:26:44.799 show presented by DraftKings. 1:26:44.840 --> 1:26:49.519 Hello, Tony, hey, guys, Well, of course I'm calling about 1:26:49.560 --> 1:26:52.280 Drake May trying to think of what to say that 1:26:52.360 --> 1:26:56.160 hasn't been said already, but I think that OLVERJ actually 1:26:56.240 --> 1:27:00.120 touched on it. But you know, I think if May 1:27:00.320 --> 1:27:02.439 May has the tendency to let the ball sail on 1:27:02.560 --> 1:27:06.280 him a little bit, especially on the short and intermediate passes. 1:27:06.400 --> 1:27:09.679 The long ball is he's very accurate on. So I'd 1:27:09.720 --> 1:27:13.000 like to see him work on that. One of the 1:27:13.000 --> 1:27:17.280 interceptions he overthrew his receiver. The other one it was deflected, 1:27:17.320 --> 1:27:19.760 but still a high throw. So take away those two 1:27:20.479 --> 1:27:24.040 high throws and those two picks, and I think we'd 1:27:24.080 --> 1:27:26.920 be a lot more optimistic. I'm happy to see Drake 1:27:26.960 --> 1:27:28.880 May in. So that's all I have for today, guys. 1:27:28.960 --> 1:27:30.639 Thanks, And that's a good point. 1:27:30.640 --> 1:27:33.280 And where he missed today, I think he missed high 1:27:33.439 --> 1:27:34.080 by and large. 1:27:35.240 --> 1:27:37.120 He missed high on a lot more than one or two. 1:27:37.400 --> 1:27:38.040 That's all release. 1:27:38.200 --> 1:27:40.320 Yep, that's exactly what we said saw in the preseasons. 1:27:40.400 --> 1:27:42.439 I think we said it on the pregame show that 1:27:42.439 --> 1:27:44.840 that's you know, he misses like that, that's one of 1:27:44.840 --> 1:27:45.280 his things. 1:27:45.320 --> 1:27:48.080 See him from North Carolina, the state of Drake May. 1:27:48.240 --> 1:27:50.760 You're next in the Patriots post game show. Hi, Sam, 1:27:51.280 --> 1:27:51.879 all right. 1:27:52.000 --> 1:27:55.160 I think great May exceeded expectations today if you look 1:27:55.200 --> 1:28:00.400 at the circumstances, lots of injuries leaving Russia out. Besides May, 1:28:01.040 --> 1:28:04.439 the leading rusher had nineteen yards, He had no Russian 1:28:04.479 --> 1:28:08.960 game to compliment playing a top five defense in the NFL. 1:28:09.520 --> 1:28:14.200 His first start, led the team in rushing, threw for 1:28:14.320 --> 1:28:17.240 more than anybody has, I believe against the Texans all year, 1:28:17.640 --> 1:28:21.400 and really played better against them than Josh Allen did, 1:28:21.439 --> 1:28:25.840 who was nine of thirty and he's the top three quarterback. 1:28:26.040 --> 1:28:29.320 I love it, Joshua, let's go, let's go. 1:28:29.439 --> 1:28:31.240 But yet they scored the same amount of points that 1:28:31.360 --> 1:28:34.240 was Sam. By the way, but I would, you know, 1:28:34.320 --> 1:28:37.160 wholeheartedly agree with Sam. Sorry, I would wholeheardly agree with 1:28:37.160 --> 1:28:40.200 the assessment of May. I think, if you're just asking 1:28:40.240 --> 1:28:42.080 me personally, he exceeded my expectations. 1:28:42.080 --> 1:28:43.759 All Right, we're gonna hear from Drake May in a moment. 1:28:43.760 --> 1:28:47.160 But first let's go to Josh. Even though Fred was 1:28:47.200 --> 1:28:50.599 calling Sam Josh, but let's go to Josh now from Georgia, Josh, 1:28:50.600 --> 1:28:52.000 you're next to the Patriots postgame show. 1:28:52.040 --> 1:28:56.000 Hello, guys, I'm gonna do a little bit of a 1:28:56.120 --> 1:28:58.640 change up here. I have a question about the well, 1:28:58.680 --> 1:29:03.439 a couple of things about the defense, the scheme. Why 1:29:03.479 --> 1:29:06.479 are we playing Mart at safety now when he had 1:29:06.520 --> 1:29:10.880 so much success at linebacker last week? And also where 1:29:11.000 --> 1:29:14.839 is Taki talkie? I know he had that penalty. 1:29:15.000 --> 1:29:16.719 He played a little bit opening kickoff. 1:29:16.840 --> 1:29:20.920 Yeah, he played, he played on He played on defense too, 1:29:20.960 --> 1:29:24.200 but Mapu played safety last week too. He played linebacker, 1:29:24.800 --> 1:29:26.800 but he played some safety as well. He's one of 1:29:26.840 --> 1:29:29.800 those versatile guys. Brian Belichick talked about him a little 1:29:29.800 --> 1:29:34.439 bit on Thursday, Mike just you know who. He compared 1:29:34.520 --> 1:29:40.200 him to Fred You'll question okay, you know, and actually 1:29:40.200 --> 1:29:42.680 Mike Reese and I had a nice little sort of 1:29:42.720 --> 1:29:46.800 a too on tag team with Brian. Yeah, he's just 1:29:46.800 --> 1:29:48.360 said like he's kind of an old school He was 1:29:48.360 --> 1:29:51.760 a really athletic linebacker who could cover tight ends and 1:29:51.800 --> 1:29:53.680 do some different things, but you could also move him 1:29:53.720 --> 1:29:57.400 away from the ball a little bit now, he said, specifically, 1:29:57.560 --> 1:30:00.280 like with five for different era of football, where with 1:30:00.280 --> 1:30:02.680 three linebackers on the field all the time. So not 1:30:02.720 --> 1:30:06.120 a perfect comparison, but yeah, he played some linebacker. Joshua, 1:30:06.160 --> 1:30:08.320 You're right last week and I didn't see him as 1:30:08.400 --> 1:30:10.800 much at linebacker today. I thought, for the most part 1:30:10.840 --> 1:30:13.200 he was a little further back. Mike lamented that earlier, 1:30:14.000 --> 1:30:16.720 but Taka Taki was out there getting his v wet. Yeah, 1:30:16.880 --> 1:30:19.040 first game back. Okay, thanks for the call, Joshua. 1:30:19.040 --> 1:30:21.400 How about that A Belichick with a historical perspective on 1:30:21.439 --> 1:30:23.000 a player, who would have guess that I. 1:30:24.200 --> 1:30:26.240 And you know that the two thousand and one Patriots 1:30:26.280 --> 1:30:29.599 are for Brian and Steven are going to be Bill's 1:30:29.640 --> 1:30:31.519 eighty six Johns ex That's. 1:30:31.360 --> 1:30:32.479 Right, right, that's good. 1:30:32.680 --> 1:30:34.120 I would just say to that last call, I don't 1:30:34.160 --> 1:30:36.360 know how effective he actually was at linebacker last week. 1:30:36.360 --> 1:30:38.200 I think it was more just liking seeing him. 1:30:38.080 --> 1:30:39.719 Play there, the fact that he was out there. 1:30:40.000 --> 1:30:40.559 You know, I just. 1:30:40.520 --> 1:30:42.960 Again, I don't want to hammer Ray Kwon McMillan and 1:30:43.280 --> 1:30:46.920 you know both line Tavai being forced to play entirely inside, 1:30:46.920 --> 1:30:49.200 But it's just they don't have answers inside right now, 1:30:49.680 --> 1:30:50.680 those inside linebackers. 1:30:50.680 --> 1:30:52.640 Well, the topic du jour has been the play of 1:30:52.760 --> 1:30:55.439 Drake May and the Patriots forty one to twenty one loss. 1:30:55.479 --> 1:30:58.280 It was the regular season first start for Drake May. 1:30:58.640 --> 1:31:00.919 Let's go to the podium and listen to the Patriots quarterback. 1:31:01.320 --> 1:31:03.599 I think, you know, we just. 1:31:03.560 --> 1:31:05.800 Hurt ourselvesselve today. I think that's the biggest thing. I 1:31:05.800 --> 1:31:09.519 think we put the defense in bad, bad spots, and 1:31:09.880 --> 1:31:11.439 you know, with how good our defense is, we can't 1:31:11.760 --> 1:31:13.400 that's the that's the least thing we can do. You know, 1:31:13.439 --> 1:31:16.680 we can't give him when the balls in the red 1:31:16.760 --> 1:31:18.160 zone give him the other team the ball in the 1:31:18.160 --> 1:31:20.720 red zone just makes it hard on him. And you know, 1:31:20.760 --> 1:31:23.000 it starts with me and I think you know has 1:31:23.040 --> 1:31:27.240 some throws back and especially you know the first interception. Yeah, 1:31:27.240 --> 1:31:29.680 but after the touchdown, you feel like coming you're back 1:31:29.720 --> 1:31:32.840 in it, come out of halftime and it goes you know, 1:31:33.000 --> 1:31:34.880 you know, no turnover in the red zone. So just 1:31:35.040 --> 1:31:38.360 uh kept on, you know, hurting ourselves. And you know 1:31:38.400 --> 1:31:39.920 in this league, you know, these teams are too good 1:31:39.920 --> 1:31:42.479 to do that. And you know, with some great stuff 1:31:42.479 --> 1:31:45.160 to watch on film, you know, some times out there 1:31:45.280 --> 1:31:47.519 was it was a lot of fun on offense. So 1:31:48.160 --> 1:31:49.519 and so I told the guys in the whole the end, man, 1:31:49.520 --> 1:31:51.240 we got the guys in the huddle, we just gotta 1:31:51.560 --> 1:31:54.160 make a few few more plays and you can play 1:31:54.160 --> 1:31:56.360 complimentary football. Also, you know, coach Mayo just preached play 1:31:56.360 --> 1:31:57.160 complmentary football. 1:31:57.479 --> 1:31:58.080 We didn't do that. 1:31:58.040 --> 1:32:01.200 Today, Drake. 1:32:01.240 --> 1:32:02.800 As the game went on, did you feel it kind 1:32:02.800 --> 1:32:04.719 of slowed down for you, you know, in the pocket 1:32:04.800 --> 1:32:05.600 making decisions? 1:32:05.840 --> 1:32:08.760 Yeah, you know, I was a little ampt amped at 1:32:08.760 --> 1:32:11.280 the start, for sure. I think, you know, the biggest 1:32:11.280 --> 1:32:13.280 thing is having those guys around me. You know, they're great, 1:32:13.280 --> 1:32:16.120 you know, pump me up, coaches defense. You know, the 1:32:16.160 --> 1:32:18.200 guys around me were great trying to settle me down, 1:32:18.240 --> 1:32:19.800 and Jacobe it was a big part of that. Seld 1:32:19.840 --> 1:32:22.240 me down the sideline and you know, pre game, so 1:32:22.600 --> 1:32:25.439 kind of once you got that first drive and it 1:32:25.600 --> 1:32:27.800 was three and out and I'm probably have checked it 1:32:27.840 --> 1:32:31.200 down on the under. But uh, just some stuff you know, 1:32:31.280 --> 1:32:33.200 look back and learn from. But now I also feel 1:32:33.200 --> 1:32:34.040 like we did some good things. 1:32:34.120 --> 1:32:39.120 So Drake, you mentioned the interception, the first one. 1:32:39.200 --> 1:32:41.120 What sort of happened there would take us through? 1:32:41.439 --> 1:32:44.479 Yeah, uh, you know, pretty you know, pretty simple, you know, 1:32:44.520 --> 1:32:46.679 pop over the middle, and you hit him a few 1:32:46.680 --> 1:32:48.839 other times and wasn't that last time where he scored 1:32:49.240 --> 1:32:51.360 that I hit him in stride, So just gonna make 1:32:51.360 --> 1:32:54.160 better throws. You missed a little high and you can't 1:32:54.160 --> 1:32:55.800 miss high over the middle. You know in this league, 1:32:55.840 --> 1:32:57.200 that's what they always say, you can't miss high over 1:32:57.240 --> 1:32:59.639 the middle, and you know, tip balls on the second 1:32:59.680 --> 1:33:01.120 one turn and you know interceptions. 1:33:03.439 --> 1:33:06.479 Drake drug Mana just called it an encouraging performance on offense. 1:33:06.479 --> 1:33:08.360 A lot that came in the second half. What wasn't 1:33:08.360 --> 1:33:09.640 better for you guys in the second half than the 1:33:09.640 --> 1:33:10.120 first half. 1:33:10.800 --> 1:33:15.559 Yeah, you know we preach you know, abps, preaching fast starts, 1:33:15.720 --> 1:33:18.920 and you know, I wouldn't say it's you know, very 1:33:19.160 --> 1:33:20.400 you know, please them when you start off with the 1:33:20.520 --> 1:33:21.760 you know, turn over in the red zone to start 1:33:21.800 --> 1:33:23.120 start the second half and start off with three and 1:33:23.120 --> 1:33:25.040 out in the first game, I mean first first drivet. 1:33:25.120 --> 1:33:28.000 So you know, little things like that that we we're 1:33:28.000 --> 1:33:31.799 emphasizing on offense and we just haven't been able to execute. 1:33:31.840 --> 1:33:34.200 I think this's the things that come back here, you 1:33:34.200 --> 1:33:36.519 know what we're emphasizing, and you know, starts with me. 1:33:36.520 --> 1:33:38.960 We need to execute. But kind of got going there 1:33:38.960 --> 1:33:40.920 a little bit, made some thros. The guys made some 1:33:40.960 --> 1:33:43.599 plays and you know we got like I said, we've 1:33:43.640 --> 1:33:45.280 got those guys. We've got you know, guys that can 1:33:45.320 --> 1:33:48.360 make plays and ohod lines up there battling, battling their 1:33:48.360 --> 1:33:52.320 butt off and getting injured, towing back and always checking 1:33:52.320 --> 1:33:54.679 on me. So those guys, you know, fight their butts 1:33:54.680 --> 1:33:55.080 off tonight. 1:33:57.360 --> 1:33:57.559 Uh. 1:33:57.720 --> 1:33:59.800 Even Gerard was saying when he was up here that 1:33:59.840 --> 1:34:02.880 you took some big hits first full sixty minutes from 1:34:02.920 --> 1:34:04.600 you in the NFL as a quarterback. How are you 1:34:04.640 --> 1:34:07.120 feeling physically after the fascality of today's game. 1:34:07.439 --> 1:34:10.680 Yeah, I think you know, hoo'ston who dextly a good 1:34:10.680 --> 1:34:12.479 football team. They had good defense and they got some 1:34:12.880 --> 1:34:15.200 good guys in the edge and up front, good guys 1:34:15.240 --> 1:34:16.680 in the back end. So you know, it's a good 1:34:16.720 --> 1:34:18.920 test for us. Like I said, I think you're right there. 1:34:18.920 --> 1:34:20.519 A couple times in the game we were calling back 1:34:20.520 --> 1:34:23.400 and we really just offensively, you know, put defense at 1:34:23.400 --> 1:34:25.760 a bad spot. So I feel all right. I think 1:34:25.840 --> 1:34:27.519 you know you're playing quarterback in the NFL. You know 1:34:27.720 --> 1:34:29.240 you're gonna be store the next day. You know it's 1:34:29.280 --> 1:34:31.639 part of it, and probably need to do a better 1:34:31.760 --> 1:34:33.960 job of getting down or or throwing it away. And 1:34:34.560 --> 1:34:36.200 I think it took a couple of sacks maybe today 1:34:36.200 --> 1:34:38.800 where I could have thrown away or your throw check 1:34:38.840 --> 1:34:41.120 down staff you know, getting a sack and step up. 1:34:43.160 --> 1:34:45.040 Trake, you mentioned you were amped at the beginning before 1:34:45.120 --> 1:34:47.120 settling down. What was the sideline like when you were 1:34:47.160 --> 1:34:47.519 coming back. 1:34:47.560 --> 1:34:49.360 What were some of the conversations you were having, and 1:34:49.439 --> 1:34:51.519 how is Jacobi helping during that time if at all. 1:34:51.800 --> 1:34:53.760 Yeah, you know, he's saying, we're good, We're good. 1:34:53.920 --> 1:34:54.120 Yeah. 1:34:54.120 --> 1:34:56.240 And they went down there, you know, and scored on 1:34:56.240 --> 1:34:57.840 theirs possess so puts a littleressure on you. I think 1:34:57.840 --> 1:34:59.800 it's always a little pressure when they, you know, score 1:34:59.800 --> 1:35:01.800 for to make a seven to zero. So just settle 1:35:01.880 --> 1:35:04.600 down and trust the guys around me. And uh, you know, 1:35:04.640 --> 1:35:06.040 you gotta be able run the football little bit too. 1:35:06.160 --> 1:35:08.760 I think you know we preached that and you'll run 1:35:08.760 --> 1:35:11.360 the football in this league? Is how you open getting 1:35:11.400 --> 1:35:12.840 in Uh, you know, third and longer and third and 1:35:12.880 --> 1:35:15.559 long too much. I feel like today and it starts 1:35:15.560 --> 1:35:17.560 with me and you know, making better throws them and 1:35:17.640 --> 1:35:18.880 decisions on first and second down. 1:35:20.680 --> 1:35:23.000 Drake Wednesday mentioned this is a dream for you to 1:35:23.040 --> 1:35:26.599 get your first NFL start. What was dislike from from 1:35:26.680 --> 1:35:30.080 that perspective and also how do you self evaluate overall 1:35:30.320 --> 1:35:33.040 as to you know, how today went compared to what 1:35:33.080 --> 1:35:34.280 you wanted to achieve. 1:35:33.960 --> 1:35:35.000 You know, shout out the fans, and you know, I 1:35:35.040 --> 1:35:36.960 thought they were great. You know, you gave me goosebumps 1:35:37.040 --> 1:35:39.760 run out there the first time in this staid you know, 1:35:39.960 --> 1:35:42.760 you know, basically almost the whole way through cheering, and 1:35:43.080 --> 1:35:44.280 you know, it was pretty sweet to be out there 1:35:44.320 --> 1:35:48.280 in the reds. But like I said, I think now 1:35:48.360 --> 1:35:50.320 you don't didn't come out with the win, and that's 1:35:50.439 --> 1:35:52.080 kind of the goal, especially in your first start. You 1:35:52.120 --> 1:35:54.080 want to come out with the win. That's pretty something, 1:35:54.120 --> 1:35:56.320 pretty special. So I got to be able to you know, 1:35:56.439 --> 1:35:58.439 watch the tape and learn from it and and bounce 1:35:58.520 --> 1:36:00.960 back and to get a long flight so get ready 1:36:01.000 --> 1:36:02.400 for playing overseas. 1:36:04.280 --> 1:36:07.519 Yeah, along those lines. Uh, there's no denying this is 1:36:07.600 --> 1:36:09.840 one of the biggest days in your life. I mean, 1:36:09.920 --> 1:36:13.400 that's that's that's a fact. Uh, it's also a fact 1:36:13.400 --> 1:36:17.400 that your team lost convincingly. Uh what are those emotions like, 1:36:17.520 --> 1:36:20.320 I mean, you're gonna be getting texts from friends, family 1:36:21.400 --> 1:36:23.920 who don't take the loss into account of what's going 1:36:23.960 --> 1:36:26.839 on right now in terms of the conflicting emotions. 1:36:27.120 --> 1:36:29.400 Yeah, I think you know, first fore most is just blessed, 1:36:30.479 --> 1:36:32.040 don't think the good Lord. You know, I'm in a 1:36:32.320 --> 1:36:35.960 great spot, you know, with the Patriots here and you know, 1:36:36.040 --> 1:36:38.479 playing your quarterback in the NFL, and most of my 1:36:38.560 --> 1:36:41.160 friends and family after a loss, you know, they're still 1:36:41.240 --> 1:36:44.040 you know word more about the loss than uh than 1:36:44.200 --> 1:36:47.040 kind of encouraging plays. That's kind of the people I'm around, 1:36:47.120 --> 1:36:50.040 and we care about winning and just hate losing. So 1:36:50.439 --> 1:36:52.280 that's the big thing. I think there's some good things 1:36:52.280 --> 1:36:55.960 to take away from it, you know today and and 1:36:56.040 --> 1:36:58.200 I think, you know, I think back to coach with 1:36:58.320 --> 1:37:00.519 coach may have got to play companary football and we 1:37:00.600 --> 1:37:01.080 haven't done. 1:37:01.000 --> 1:37:03.120 That in the front. 1:37:03.600 --> 1:37:07.120 Drake, can you describe your mindset during the two minute 1:37:07.200 --> 1:37:08.400 drill before halftime? 1:37:09.080 --> 1:37:09.200 Uh? 1:37:09.479 --> 1:37:11.439 Looked like you were able to try to fit some 1:37:11.520 --> 1:37:14.719 passes into some tight windows there. Did Did that maybe 1:37:14.760 --> 1:37:16.320 help you settle into a little. 1:37:16.120 --> 1:37:18.920 Bit I think two minutes, but two minutes of time, 1:37:18.960 --> 1:37:20.800 it's it's a great time for you know, quarterback to 1:37:21.479 --> 1:37:23.439 kind of get some passes and get some plays you 1:37:23.479 --> 1:37:25.120 know that we're comfortable with, you know, under my belt, 1:37:25.200 --> 1:37:27.439 and it's a lot easier, you know, in two minutes. 1:37:27.520 --> 1:37:29.559 You know, then practice when you know the guys actually 1:37:29.840 --> 1:37:31.240 come back there and tackle me in the back. So 1:37:31.720 --> 1:37:33.720 I be able to make some plays. And you know, 1:37:33.720 --> 1:37:36.560 Booty made a great play. And those guys, you know, 1:37:36.840 --> 1:37:38.720 I think pop down the sideline. That's, you know, great 1:37:38.760 --> 1:37:40.680 play on his part. And just get the guys the ball. 1:37:40.680 --> 1:37:41.960 And that's the biggest thing I got to do. I 1:37:42.040 --> 1:37:44.400 think you'll give them the ball and let him make plays. 1:37:44.400 --> 1:37:46.840 You know, you saw Hunter, you know on a flat route. 1:37:46.840 --> 1:37:48.439 You know early on we're backed up, you know, make 1:37:48.600 --> 1:37:50.519 make guy missed, get a first down. So well, things 1:37:50.520 --> 1:37:51.960 like that to get the ball on my hands and 1:37:52.360 --> 1:37:54.519 get into those guys that make a lot of money 1:37:54.560 --> 1:37:56.439 that getting paid to, you'll get first downs. 1:37:58.080 --> 1:38:00.559 Trey right here, could you just walk us through your 1:38:00.680 --> 1:38:03.400 forty yard touchdown pass to Jalen Polk and doing it 1:38:03.479 --> 1:38:05.200 in a game as opposed to a practice. How much 1:38:05.280 --> 1:38:08.960 did that help your confidence today? You had a you mean, Booty, 1:38:09.120 --> 1:38:12.920 I'm sorry to Booty. Yeah, you're good. No, I think 1:38:12.960 --> 1:38:14.599 you know, pressed up. I think we gotta give the jazz. 1:38:14.720 --> 1:38:16.080 You got to give him a chance. That's the kind 1:38:16.080 --> 1:38:18.559 of my thought process, give them a chance. I thought, 1:38:18.640 --> 1:38:20.080 you know, kind of the text was kind of squating 1:38:20.160 --> 1:38:21.960 us a little bit. They came out and challenged us 1:38:21.960 --> 1:38:24.040 and played a man, so try to you know, let 1:38:24.080 --> 1:38:24.759 one ride. 1:38:25.000 --> 1:38:27.080 And give us, give Booty a chance and many nice 1:38:27.120 --> 1:38:28.800 play and it's pretty cool, you know, I think both 1:38:28.800 --> 1:38:30.960 of our first touchdowns, so pretty cool moment. 1:38:31.160 --> 1:38:32.479 And you know fight. 1:38:32.720 --> 1:38:33.920 You know, in this group you can push the ball 1:38:33.920 --> 1:38:36.120 down the field and make plays in the passing game. 1:38:36.280 --> 1:38:38.560 So just gotta keep repping it and see what you like. 1:38:38.640 --> 1:38:41.200 And I gotta make throws. That's the bottom line. Make 1:38:41.240 --> 1:38:41.800 barre throws. 1:38:44.880 --> 1:38:47.960 And there's your Patriots quarterback today. The talk oh the town, 1:38:48.400 --> 1:38:50.360 Drake May you want to analyze the presser? 1:38:50.680 --> 1:38:51.559 How do you think you looked? 1:38:51.600 --> 1:38:52.439 And what do you think of this? 1:38:52.880 --> 1:38:53.080 Yeah? 1:38:53.280 --> 1:38:56.479 Yeah, I mean everything you want you want you want 1:38:56.520 --> 1:38:59.560 to hear about taking accountability? Uh, talking about want to 1:38:59.560 --> 1:39:02.040 get the win. You know, acknowledging the mistakes and the 1:39:02.400 --> 1:39:04.320 spots where they put their team is just in a 1:39:04.360 --> 1:39:04.800 bad spot. 1:39:04.920 --> 1:39:06.200 So you know, just good job. 1:39:06.240 --> 1:39:07.880 I mean I think a lot of these kids, I 1:39:07.920 --> 1:39:09.880 mean I felt similar with some of the you know, 1:39:09.960 --> 1:39:11.600 bad games we've had seen in years past. They know 1:39:11.640 --> 1:39:12.640 how to take accountability. 1:39:12.680 --> 1:39:13.680 So that was good with it. 1:39:13.760 --> 1:39:15.479 I was good with any understands. It's not good enough, 1:39:15.520 --> 1:39:17.599 and it's it's got to get better and hopefully that's 1:39:17.600 --> 1:39:18.759 what direction on the head. 1:39:18.920 --> 1:39:21.160 Buckley kind of. I think it was Buckley that was 1:39:21.240 --> 1:39:23.439 asking the question, but I would have liked to know, like, 1:39:23.640 --> 1:39:26.599 in a weird way, did you enjoy yourself today? 1:39:27.320 --> 1:39:30.120 Like you know, yeah, yeah, that's that. I think that 1:39:30.280 --> 1:39:31.720 is what buck was trying to ask. I think so 1:39:32.000 --> 1:39:32.719 mixed emotions. 1:39:32.760 --> 1:39:33.360 I know you lost. 1:39:33.400 --> 1:39:35.920 I know you're disappointed, but yeah, you got a chance 1:39:35.960 --> 1:39:39.240 to playing your first NFL game. You had some success, right. 1:39:39.439 --> 1:39:42.040 You know, you feel like you feel you feel like 1:39:42.120 --> 1:39:45.320 his brothers are like, so, dude, I mean three turnovers's probably. 1:39:45.760 --> 1:39:47.439 Yeah, no question he did. 1:39:47.600 --> 1:39:49.680 He did say, you know, on a lot of when 1:39:49.720 --> 1:39:51.560 he was talking about the negatives, it starts with me, 1:39:52.080 --> 1:39:54.600 you know, And that's accountability. 1:39:53.880 --> 1:39:55.160 For sure, but from your quarterback. 1:39:55.360 --> 1:39:56.800 But I if I was. 1:39:56.840 --> 1:39:59.639 Coaching him, I would say, when you're talking about the negative, 1:40:00.040 --> 1:40:04.400 I not we. This is this is the rule. When 1:40:04.439 --> 1:40:07.760 it's bad, I did it, When it's good, we did it, 1:40:07.880 --> 1:40:10.519 And when it's great, they did it. You know, that's 1:40:10.600 --> 1:40:13.240 the rule. So when you're talking about negatives, it's I, 1:40:13.880 --> 1:40:15.000 you know, leave the we out. 1:40:15.479 --> 1:40:16.320 Is that a fredism or. 1:40:17.800 --> 1:40:19.920 I think it's Paul Brown. Okay. 1:40:20.320 --> 1:40:24.040 Much like much like everything else, it originated elsewhere. I 1:40:24.200 --> 1:40:25.200 like it, Okay. 1:40:25.240 --> 1:40:26.640 I want to remind you that a big thank you 1:40:26.720 --> 1:40:30.799 to our partner microscoft. Surface the official sideline technology provider 1:40:30.840 --> 1:40:33.280 and laptop of the NFL and the New England Patriots. 1:40:33.320 --> 1:40:36.120 It provides players and coaches with the tools to succeed 1:40:36.240 --> 1:40:38.960 both on and off the field. Check out the new 1:40:39.040 --> 1:40:40.800 Surface Pro, designed to keep up with you as the 1:40:40.840 --> 1:40:44.439 most flexible, most powerful two and one laptop and tablet 1:40:44.520 --> 1:40:49.120 out there at surface dot com. Uh, this is another 1:40:49.280 --> 1:40:50.280 England email. 1:40:50.600 --> 1:40:50.920 This is. 1:40:52.479 --> 1:40:56.360 Do I have a name Damon from Shrewsbury, England, not Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, 1:40:56.680 --> 1:40:59.240 who claims that he broke out the Zoe versus Saints 1:40:59.320 --> 1:41:01.120 impression on the first touchdown pass. 1:41:02.600 --> 1:41:06.240 That's your quarterback, Zoe Bonies. 1:41:06.320 --> 1:41:09.880 That's the beef, that was the what's that stiff's name, 1:41:09.960 --> 1:41:12.519 Kemberrell Tompkins who caught the ball from Brady when they 1:41:12.560 --> 1:41:15.200 beat the Scents. This guy eleven years ago to Damon, 1:41:15.439 --> 1:41:18.920 is saying that he went that's our quarterback after May's 1:41:18.960 --> 1:41:19.719 touchdown to Booty. 1:41:20.000 --> 1:41:20.360 I like that. 1:41:20.800 --> 1:41:21.880 Excited for a weekend in London. 1:41:21.920 --> 1:41:23.240 I don't want to sit through a one hundred and 1:41:23.280 --> 1:41:25.799 twenty yards zero touchdown passing game next weekend. 1:41:26.240 --> 1:41:29.439 Not perfect, but it's more fun. Yep. Here's the fans 1:41:29.479 --> 1:41:32.280 sentiment of the day, right yeah, yeah, And I'm with 1:41:32.400 --> 1:41:35.840 the fan who knew Fred Man of the people, I'm 1:41:35.880 --> 1:41:37.280 with the fans. I'm with the funds. 1:41:37.520 --> 1:41:41.040 Paul red Zone Paul twenty seven to three Lions over Cowboys. 1:41:41.080 --> 1:41:44.439 Could McCarthy be walked out of the of the game. 1:41:44.600 --> 1:41:47.120 I just think they have so many injuries. It's it's tough. 1:41:47.240 --> 1:41:48.240 He gets a pass. 1:41:48.479 --> 1:41:50.880 He might, but you know, there's no excuse for only 1:41:50.920 --> 1:41:53.160 having three points. Yeah, I mean you got Dak Prescott 1:41:53.160 --> 1:41:54.679 and Ceede Lamb. You should have more than three points 1:41:54.720 --> 1:41:56.599 on the board, especially against the defense like Detroit. 1:41:56.680 --> 1:41:58.519 So's just average at best. Fred. 1:41:58.600 --> 1:42:01.280 Does Doug Peterson get the you have the privilege to 1:42:01.320 --> 1:42:02.799 coach the Jaguars against the Patriots? 1:42:02.880 --> 1:42:04.800 Does he get to stay in London for the week 1:42:04.880 --> 1:42:05.680 or do they send him home? 1:42:05.720 --> 1:42:07.920 On people were thinking that he might get the hook. 1:42:09.000 --> 1:42:11.280 So if you're thinking about it this week, the Patriots 1:42:11.320 --> 1:42:13.280 could maybe put a nail in that coffin. 1:42:13.400 --> 1:42:14.400 You lose next week. 1:42:14.560 --> 1:42:15.720 Yeah, that would be a tough one. 1:42:15.760 --> 1:42:17.519 We're supposed to be you know, London's supposed to be 1:42:17.680 --> 1:42:21.160 like your second home. And you lose both games, You're 1:42:21.200 --> 1:42:21.439 not going. 1:42:21.439 --> 1:42:23.400 To spare the fan base there to root for you 1:42:23.479 --> 1:42:24.240 if you can't win. 1:42:24.360 --> 1:42:28.200 But Brendan and Edmonton writes, fill in the blank, this 1:42:28.439 --> 1:42:31.920 is the worst Patriots rasta since. 1:42:33.479 --> 1:42:35.360 God, I don't know, do twenty twenty? 1:42:36.360 --> 1:42:37.360 Yeah, twenty twenty. 1:42:37.640 --> 1:42:37.920 Right now. 1:42:38.200 --> 1:42:39.880 You don't think there were bad rosters in like the 1:42:40.040 --> 1:42:42.400 nineties and you know, early ninetientes. 1:42:42.720 --> 1:42:46.680 The worst since twenty twenty, twenty twenty was was not 1:42:46.800 --> 1:42:47.679 the worst of all time. 1:42:47.720 --> 1:42:49.639 I think it was also that I saw a stat 1:42:49.720 --> 1:42:51.400 somewhere on Twitter that was the last time they gave 1:42:51.479 --> 1:42:53.320 up like back to back one hundred and fifty yard 1:42:53.360 --> 1:42:55.720 plus whatever it is for the real games. So, I mean, 1:42:55.760 --> 1:42:58.080 we said it this summer. It was once those injuries 1:42:58.120 --> 1:43:00.680 started happened. It feels a lot like that defense in 1:43:00.760 --> 1:43:02.960 twenty twenty, where you had a lot of fill ins 1:43:03.000 --> 1:43:04.720 and guys who weren't really going to be part of things. 1:43:04.760 --> 1:43:06.519 I mean, I think the offense is a little bit 1:43:06.560 --> 1:43:08.280 different and that you have some young pieces that you're 1:43:08.320 --> 1:43:09.560 hope and grow. Like you didn't really have a d 1:43:09.640 --> 1:43:12.760 Mario Douglas on the team back then. In twenty twenty, 1:43:12.920 --> 1:43:14.800 you know guy it was it was kind of who 1:43:14.880 --> 1:43:17.040 was that guy who played outside corner, gie, outside receiver. 1:43:17.080 --> 1:43:18.439 I'm totally banking on his name. 1:43:18.520 --> 1:43:22.479 The oh they have really forget about Kobe Myers. 1:43:22.600 --> 1:43:25.080 Was was a good Yeah, that's actually that's a good point. 1:43:25.320 --> 1:43:27.680 Good point, and they I mean Edelman was kind of 1:43:27.840 --> 1:43:29.720 done it. That was there. He got banged up and yeah, 1:43:29.880 --> 1:43:32.479 played like five. Yeah, it wasn't as productive that year. 1:43:32.360 --> 1:43:34.160 But I think twenty twenty is a good woman it 1:43:34.240 --> 1:43:34.800 was that was that. 1:43:34.920 --> 1:43:37.519 Was a roster that was similar to this. That roster struggled. 1:43:37.600 --> 1:43:39.599 But I think the quarterback is the big difference though. 1:43:39.640 --> 1:43:41.080 That's you know, you have Cam Newton at the end 1:43:41.120 --> 1:43:43.240 of it, when you know now you have a young 1:43:43.320 --> 1:43:45.800 quarterback that and that that's the biggest difference to me. 1:43:46.000 --> 1:43:47.960 Here's my question to you, Michael. I know you probably 1:43:48.000 --> 1:43:50.200 haven't started a crack open. What is that guy's name, 1:43:50.320 --> 1:43:55.720 Dane Buglers the Beast his draft book, But here's my question. 1:43:55.800 --> 1:43:59.120 A little bit regardless of where you're picking, but assuming 1:43:59.160 --> 1:44:01.040 you're going to be in the top five, maybe top five, 1:44:01.120 --> 1:44:04.040 certainly top ten. It looks like trending in that direction. 1:44:05.840 --> 1:44:10.160 The best defensive lineman available versus the best offensive lineman available, 1:44:10.360 --> 1:44:11.520 best offensive. 1:44:11.120 --> 1:44:12.920 Well, I mean, I think it's interesting this week. 1:44:13.000 --> 1:44:14.760 I mean, and I don't know that I would be 1:44:14.960 --> 1:44:17.840 so quick to say that answer Fred. I would with Fred. 1:44:17.880 --> 1:44:20.360 I think it's interesting because this week there were some 1:44:20.560 --> 1:44:25.120 reports out from Jordan Reid from ESPN that talking to 1:44:25.120 --> 1:44:27.320 people around the league, there isn't really a strong consensus 1:44:27.439 --> 1:44:29.519 there's a top ten tackle anymore. As much as everybody 1:44:29.600 --> 1:44:33.840 wanted to talk about Will Campbell offensive tackle, offensive offensive tackle. 1:44:33.840 --> 1:44:35.800 Okay, yeah, if you wanted to tell me there's an 1:44:35.880 --> 1:44:40.320 edge guy, Yeah, that's like a dynamic that's rusher. 1:44:40.120 --> 1:44:41.240 If the guy's available. 1:44:41.439 --> 1:44:46.160 But whoever, I should have been, I should have been more. 1:44:47.479 --> 1:44:49.960 Yeah, now I'd rather have I would rather have a tackle. 1:44:50.040 --> 1:44:51.760 But if I'm like, I don't know, if there's like 1:44:51.840 --> 1:44:55.680 a game wrecker von Miller, Like if von Miller's in 1:44:55.760 --> 1:44:58.360 this draft class, then I would I would certainly think 1:44:58.360 --> 1:45:01.680 about that. But that's like, that's a dynamic, athletic right 1:45:01.840 --> 1:45:04.080 edge guy. Pevon Thibodeau a couple of years ago was 1:45:04.400 --> 1:45:05.280 like the fifth pick. 1:45:05.200 --> 1:45:06.240 I think Will Anderson. 1:45:06.960 --> 1:45:09.280 Yeah, well, those kinds of guys I would think about. 1:45:09.360 --> 1:45:10.960 I don't think those aren't defensive linemen. 1:45:11.040 --> 1:45:11.080 No. 1:45:11.160 --> 1:45:11.200 No. 1:45:11.760 --> 1:45:13.760 If it should have been more clear, no, but that's 1:45:14.200 --> 1:45:15.960 that's I just wanted to make it clear. Like if 1:45:15.960 --> 1:45:18.760 people are listening, like Paul doesn't want no, I would 1:45:18.760 --> 1:45:19.680 absolutely be with Matt. 1:45:19.880 --> 1:45:21.920 Yeah, I would absolutely with Matt. But if there's a 1:45:21.960 --> 1:45:26.520 blue chip talent available, take him. Yeah, whatever position. 1:45:26.400 --> 1:45:27.880 I think that there might be that kind of player. 1:45:27.920 --> 1:45:29.400 But I mean, I just I look at it. There's 1:45:29.640 --> 1:45:31.600 what five key positions to me in the NFL you 1:45:31.720 --> 1:45:34.440 need to check the boxes of it's wide receiver, quarterback, 1:45:35.000 --> 1:45:38.439 defensive end, cornerback, and uh and left tackle. And I 1:45:38.520 --> 1:45:41.120 think they have one of them in the cornerback, and 1:45:41.200 --> 1:45:42.519 I think they might have the two of the corner 1:45:42.600 --> 1:45:44.439 So you got to find the other three. You gotta 1:45:44.479 --> 1:45:46.400 find an edge rusher who can who's a game changer. 1:45:46.680 --> 1:45:48.160 You got to find that left tackle, and you got 1:45:48.240 --> 1:45:50.080 to find that number one receipt and you get those 1:45:50.080 --> 1:45:52.200 three more pieces. That's why when the kids have said 1:45:52.240 --> 1:45:54.800 something about the rebuild, it's like, Okay, well you might 1:45:54.880 --> 1:45:56.240 have two of the five. You might have two with 1:45:56.320 --> 1:45:58.080 the five, and I don't think it's crazy to think 1:45:58.120 --> 1:46:00.640 that you can find potentially those other three in one 1:46:00.680 --> 1:46:01.160 off seas. 1:46:01.040 --> 1:46:03.479 We got a lot of time for draft picks, a lot. 1:46:03.680 --> 1:46:05.800 It might be that's a lot of time for draft prep. 1:46:05.840 --> 1:46:07.360 Mic, But I'm gonna ask you this because you brought 1:46:07.360 --> 1:46:10.639 it up, because I think the fans would definitely wide 1:46:10.720 --> 1:46:13.280 receiver or left tackle. 1:46:14.240 --> 1:46:17.120 Again, if one of them's a blue chipper, you take 1:46:17.160 --> 1:46:19.759 that Travis Hunter from Colorado left tackle. 1:46:20.439 --> 1:46:22.880 Yeah, I wouldn't even say to me, it's not even 1:46:22.920 --> 1:46:27.640 a decision like you I as you know, I'm like 1:46:27.760 --> 1:46:29.560 an offensive. 1:46:29.120 --> 1:46:31.880 Lineist, right, right, do that on your own time. 1:46:32.160 --> 1:46:35.280 You cannot function an offense correct until they get some 1:46:35.520 --> 1:46:36.679 semblance of pass protection. 1:46:36.840 --> 1:46:37.000 Right. 1:46:37.280 --> 1:46:40.000 It's so like I always say, like it's never going 1:46:40.080 --> 1:46:41.880 to be that bad, Well, this year it's been that bad. 1:46:42.520 --> 1:46:45.200 Like every three dropbacks, they have absolutely no chance to 1:46:45.240 --> 1:46:47.960 complete a pass. And until that changes, I don't care 1:46:48.000 --> 1:46:51.559 if you have Travis Hunter or or you know whoever 1:46:51.680 --> 1:46:54.519 else out there. Do you need to find a way 1:46:54.680 --> 1:46:57.400 to shore up your offensive line now? If there's not, 1:46:57.560 --> 1:47:00.360 if Mike's right, if Will Campbell's no longer at top 1:47:00.439 --> 1:47:01.800 ten pick, then trade down. 1:47:02.120 --> 1:47:03.519 Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. That's what I 1:47:03.560 --> 1:47:06.519 was gonna say. If you're at three overall and there 1:47:06.600 --> 1:47:09.960 isn't that generational pass rusher or generational tackle, now this 1:47:10.080 --> 1:47:13.280 lines up to trade down you got. This is supposedly 1:47:13.320 --> 1:47:17.000 a pretty good depth wise edge rusher draft. So if 1:47:17.040 --> 1:47:19.360 you could hit Will Campbell at ten and then maybe 1:47:19.560 --> 1:47:21.400 near the end of the first you're gonna get another guy, 1:47:21.439 --> 1:47:23.519 and then you've still got your other pick early in 1:47:23.560 --> 1:47:25.519 the second round. I mean that's you know, now you're 1:47:25.560 --> 1:47:27.680 really talking. It's not quite what Houston did last year, 1:47:27.720 --> 1:47:30.639 but it's in the same universe of hitting on multiple 1:47:30.800 --> 1:47:32.720 top round kind of kids that you need. 1:47:32.960 --> 1:47:34.840 As we wind down, let's go to Mike on the 1:47:34.920 --> 1:47:37.800 Jersey Shore. You'll be the last caller this evening. Mike, 1:47:38.080 --> 1:47:40.879 Welcome to the Patriots postgame Show presented by DraftKings. 1:47:40.920 --> 1:47:44.439 Hello Mike, Hey guys, So I'll make it quick since 1:47:44.479 --> 1:47:47.320 it's the end. So I think everybody's kind of had 1:47:47.360 --> 1:47:51.600 the census what you saw from the quarterback, which I 1:47:51.800 --> 1:47:54.960 think we should have seen on Day one. So my 1:47:55.120 --> 1:47:56.880 question to you guys, and I'm gonna leave it at 1:47:56.920 --> 1:47:59.560 this What are the next two things you want to 1:47:59.560 --> 1:48:02.720 see with them the next week going forward? Tell me 1:48:02.800 --> 1:48:05.280 two things that you think he needs that you want 1:48:05.320 --> 1:48:06.560 to see him improve on. 1:48:06.800 --> 1:48:08.880 Great question, and I can handle at least one of them. 1:48:08.960 --> 1:48:11.439 Accurate, ac accurate, and don't turn it over. 1:48:11.560 --> 1:48:14.800 Yeah, that's it. Sky Lest passes and turn them all over. 1:48:15.200 --> 1:48:16.960 I would say I'd like to see him make more 1:48:17.000 --> 1:48:20.040 plays that aren't the first read and less plays with 1:48:20.120 --> 1:48:20.559 his legs. 1:48:20.680 --> 1:48:22.799 He set a bar. It was exciting. 1:48:22.920 --> 1:48:24.759 They lose forty one to twenty one of the Patriots 1:48:24.840 --> 1:48:27.000 due to the Houston Texans, But Drake May set a 1:48:27.040 --> 1:48:29.000 bar now. I think the expectation is we want to 1:48:29.000 --> 1:48:30.880 see improvement every single week. 1:48:30.760 --> 1:48:33.479 And put down on the coaching staff overall as developed 1:48:33.520 --> 1:48:35.240 of that development. We need a team to start for 1:48:35.280 --> 1:48:37.559 the most critical mistakes, and we especially need Drake May 1:48:37.600 --> 1:48:38.280 to make them progress. 1:48:38.360 --> 1:48:38.439 Right. 1:48:38.520 --> 1:48:40.559 The Patriots lose today to drop to one and five. 1:48:40.600 --> 1:48:42.439 They lose to the Houston Texans, who go to five 1:48:42.520 --> 1:48:44.000 and one on the year by a forty one to 1:48:44.040 --> 1:48:47.080 twenty one score in in a relatively impressive debut for 1:48:47.240 --> 1:48:50.120 Drake May. That'll do it for us here at Julette Stadium, 1:48:50.280 --> 1:48:53.800 for Chris Judge and for Josh Davis, for Matt Morele, 1:48:53.880 --> 1:48:56.880 Matt Lapan, Paul Parrillo, Fred Kursch, Tamara Brown, and Mike 1:48:56.960 --> 1:48:59.679 do So. I'm Matt Smith. 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