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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet. Am welcome to Season to twenty two,

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Speaker 1: Episode five of Deer Daily's like gates to production of

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Speaker 1: Our Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Friday, February five.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien a K. Jack is the

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Speaker 1: best at the word. Old Jack is the best at

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Speaker 1: the word. Old Jack is the best at the word.

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Speaker 1: I promise that I don't cheat word all power. That

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Speaker 1: is an a K courtesy of at Benny Swill Falcon

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Speaker 1: fuck hat on Twitter for some reason. And I am

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined today by a very special guest

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Speaker 1: co host, the original Day one super producer of the

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Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist, many of the first rate podcasts on this network,

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Speaker 1: such as this is Important Lost Cultureista's he've heard her

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Speaker 1: on her podcast with sharene linning units ethnically ambiguous, and

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Speaker 1: of cour segments of this show such as on a

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Speaker 1: Streaming Corner TM and it's you know, iconic phrase that's

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Speaker 1: prestige casting TM. It's on a hostess. It's incredible you

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Speaker 1: revealed how rich I am that I just trademark everything

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Speaker 1: I do. It's true. I mean, that's prestige casting is

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Speaker 1: you could You could really make a big a living

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Speaker 1: off of that. Yeah. Yeah, I would even argue me

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Speaker 1: not being able to book a guest host last minute

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Speaker 1: and thus stepping in myself because this morning I was

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Speaker 1: so lazy. Is prestige casting casting right there? Yes? I

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Speaker 1: hope this has a life for you, like the that's

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Speaker 1: a deal breaker ladies thing from thirty Rock. I'm trying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're working well on a weird Thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: in our third seat by a very talented thinker research Sure.

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Speaker 1: She's the senior Research Fellow at the National Iranian American Council.

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Speaker 1: She has a PhD in Middle Eastern history. She's a

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Speaker 1: must follow on Twitter. Among the most overqualified humans to

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Speaker 1: be a guest on our stupid show. It's Dr sl D.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, that's so much for having me. This

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Speaker 1: is a This is a nice change of pace for

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Speaker 1: my day. This isn't what you're normal. I told you

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Speaker 1: ahead of the record that we will be talking about

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Speaker 1: Dolly Parton's take on the Mexican pizza and you were like,

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Speaker 1: that is just what I was talking about in my

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Speaker 1: last meeting. It actually it actually probably was to be

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Speaker 1: completely honest, because that's been behind the scenes of what

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Speaker 1: goes on. We just shade trade fast food tips. Nice?

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Speaker 1: Do I call you Dr? Red? Is that? I mean? Okay?

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Speaker 1: It is fucking awesome. I sound like a villain from

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Speaker 1: a Bond movie. I mean, the coolest villain from a

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Speaker 1: Bond movie, Dreed. Come on, all right, I will call

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Speaker 1: you ass out Dr Ratt, Dr Red, or you can

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Speaker 1: take the beginning part actually of my first time and

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Speaker 1: call me Dr rad ass There you go. Also very cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, how are you doing? Where are you coming

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Speaker 1: to us from? I am in Orange County, California, So

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Speaker 1: I'm coming to you from sunny southern California. I hate

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Speaker 1: to show that off always, but I feel it necessary

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Speaker 1: because it's just the only thing everybody always asks. First,

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Speaker 1: how is the weather? I'm like, it's still nice. Always,

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Speaker 1: it's still nice. It's still nice for now. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Climate will change things. We'll see where we go, but

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Speaker 1: for now, it's still nice. Yeah, that's fine. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to know you a little bit

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Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. We're talking about We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about economic sanctions. What what that? We hear a lot

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Speaker 1: about it in the news. We kind of brushed past

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Speaker 1: it when we're talking about Cuba earlier in the week,

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Speaker 1: but I want to just kind of put some detail

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Speaker 1: into what what that means, what that does to a country.

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Speaker 1: And we have someone whose way smarter than me here

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Speaker 1: talking about that. We're gonna be talking about the Israeli

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Speaker 1: foreign minister accusing Amnesty International of hate crimes for pointing

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Speaker 1: out that Israel is an apartheid state. We will be

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Speaker 1: talking about and then this is where we really get

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Speaker 1: into your sweet spot. Sl We're gonna be talking about

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Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani being revealed as one of the singers of

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Speaker 1: the Masked Singer, and Dolly Parton potentially maybe having just

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Speaker 1: saved the Mexican pizza at Taco Bell, all of that

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Speaker 1: plenty more. But before we get to any of it,

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Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something

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Speaker 1: from your search history. I think the last thing I

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Speaker 1: searched was Matan Yahoo's cartoon bomb, Okay, because there was

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Speaker 1: so Senator Bob Menendez, I think it was two nights ago,

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Speaker 1: Because every time we get close to actually have a

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Speaker 1: So we've been talking about this, by the way, for decades.

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Speaker 1: what looks like a cartoon bomb from like Looney Tunes cartoon.

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Speaker 1: It's just like a circle with you know, a wick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I searched that because I just wanted to put

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Speaker 1: these two images next to each other as if to say, look,

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Speaker 1: And Menendez used what looked like a nuclear blimp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was another fun graphic. It was a very friendly

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Speaker 1: just see then, yea Manya who has a history of

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Speaker 1: always I always remember, like there's always memes that be

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Speaker 1: Where is any of this coming? The production is? You know,

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Speaker 1: I think it was the Nations. Yeah. It really feels

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Speaker 1: but it's so that and exaggerated that it really does

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Speaker 1: it looks a lot friendlier than a nuclear weapon, would

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Speaker 1: I think, and their purposes to scare people, and yet

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Speaker 1: to scare people about Iran's non existent nuclear weapons, just

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Speaker 1: use images from the actual nuclear weapons we dropped, right,

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Speaker 1: that would be scary at this huge explosion that killed

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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people immediately. Instead, they go with

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Speaker 1: Wiley Coyote's version of a bomb right right right. It

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Speaker 1: And then it's like a little like what are those

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Speaker 1: we could have some real danger on our hands. Very

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Speaker 1: USA today like chart a little like chart that they

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Speaker 1: used to. I don't know if I still do that.

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Speaker 1: It's just like very ambiguous and vague and ominous, like

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Speaker 1: that's that's the approach, right. What is something that you

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Speaker 1: think is overrated? Success? Okay, it is, isn't it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I mean speak for yourself. I'm on

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Speaker 1: I watched that Wallburger docuseries he did and Wall Street

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Speaker 1: So that's just that's just the way it went back. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing like that post workout drag from the cigarette,

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Speaker 1: if we're not actively working towards you know, that that

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Speaker 1: don't know. Wasn't there that this concept of like the

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Speaker 1: great resignation And it's like that's where it's coming from.

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Speaker 1: People are just like this is this is not a

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Speaker 1: good system. We're unhappy extremely so what can be done

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Speaker 1: about it? And it's because you're right, I mean, successes

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Speaker 1: that feeling of guilt that you get like you're not

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Speaker 1: been told that we have to constantly be working or

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Speaker 1: doing something like that's considered productive, but productivity is always

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Speaker 1: related to like material gain and consumption and all of that. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: I think sleeping is productive. It's extremely productive, absolutely. I

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Speaker 1: partaking behaviors that is not in the interests of the

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Speaker 1: United States that we don't like for X, Y, ANDZ

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Speaker 1: reasons that we give. But in fact the target civilians.

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Speaker 1: And we know this. I mean, the literature on sanctions

429
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Speaker 1: is so clear of who is actually being hurt by it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, sort of these exemptions, these humanitarian exemptions

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Speaker 1: get written into sanctions law, but the reality of it

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Speaker 1: is it doesn't work because you know, you're looking at

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Speaker 1: like what is a what is the sanction if like

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Speaker 1: the bank is sanctioned a central bank of a country

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Speaker 1: as sanction and they're trying to purchase medicines, right, they're

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Speaker 1: trying to purchase vaccines. Will say, in order to purchase something,

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Speaker 1: you need a transaction. There's there's always a third party,

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Speaker 1: there's a bank, some kind of financial entity in the

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Speaker 1: middle that allows that transaction to take place, and they're

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Speaker 1: so scared of violating u. S. Sanctions that they just

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Speaker 1: don't do it. They will do it. It's not a

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Speaker 1: question of whether or not they can legally, they just

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Speaker 1: won't because it's not worth it from a business perspective.

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Speaker 1: If you're a bank, right, it's not worth it for

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Speaker 1: you to allow this transaction to take place in case,

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Speaker 1: you know, you violate U. S. Sanctions. And part of

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Speaker 1: it is because there's so many it's I mean, have

448
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Speaker 1: you ever tried to read some of the bills and

449
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: things that come out of Congress? Just like legal language,

450
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Speaker 1: it's complicated for most people to understand. And so now

451
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Speaker 1: you have all of these sanctions. You have, like Iran

452
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Speaker 1: is the most sanctioned country in the world. You're talking

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Speaker 1: about like a well over a thousand sanctions, right. You

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Speaker 1: have entities, like financial entities in Iran that are double

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Speaker 1: or triple sanctions, so not just sanctioned once, if that

456
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Speaker 1: even makes sense, but they're sanctioned under different designations. So

457
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Speaker 1: there's just this really complex web of sanctions. And then

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Speaker 1: you expect financial institutions to partake in transactions. They don't.

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Speaker 1: And so what happens is you have countries that have

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Speaker 1: like essential goods that they can't get. You have scarcity,

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Speaker 1: hyper inflation, unemployment, people losing literally losing their livelihoods, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, in ran you have with studies from last

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Speaker 1: year that said something like ten of the middle class

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Speaker 1: had been forced into poverty. That's millions of people. And

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Speaker 1: that's not that's not the government. These governments stay in place.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the most sort of obvious example is Cuba.

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Speaker 1: It's a sixty year embarkment. What do you do for

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Speaker 1: sixty years that doesn't work that you think year sixty

469
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Speaker 1: one is going to do the trick. Yeah, they'll come around.

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Speaker 1: We're we're closed to get them well. And and there's

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Speaker 1: the fact there's the additional problem, which is, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're looking at it from the United States, are

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Speaker 1: politicians and repeated US administrations talk about this idea of

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Speaker 1: like an international rules based order, international law, how like

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Speaker 1: you know, there's an international community. We love using these phrases,

476
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Speaker 1: but then like something like a hundred seventy two countries

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Speaker 1: vote uh for the thirty year in a row to

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Speaker 1: end the embargo on Cuba, and two countries say no,

479
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: the US and Israel, and so that's a done deal.

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Speaker 1: No embargo is not going to be lifted. So it's like,

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Speaker 1: what is that the international community? Then? Is it just

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Speaker 1: these two countries and the other hundred and seventies forget

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Speaker 1: what they have to say. So it's it's a combination

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Speaker 1: of the policy and how the policy is implemented when

485
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Speaker 1: you look at it on a sort of like international scale,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that we just don't do any of

487
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Speaker 1: these things consistently, Like we're like, oh, we don't like

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Speaker 1: this country, so they're gonna get sanctioned. But this other

489
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Speaker 1: country that does the exact same thing. You guys are cool.

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Speaker 1: You're you're never gonna get sanction no matter what you do. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree. It's it's such a like and you would

492
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Speaker 1: think like it's all politics, but it's like, no, it's

493
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: all like money and playing favorites and doing and making

494
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: the US money and making Israel money. And if you

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Speaker 1: can't do that, then honey, you don't got a shot.

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Speaker 1: And your people have to now start to in the

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Speaker 1: streets and they can't have ppe and they can't have

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Speaker 1: you know, basic human rights, because the US is like

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Speaker 1: not feeling it. It's a really it's so dark that

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Speaker 1: it's just generally there's no like, there's nothing that they

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Speaker 1: can say, like even we watch it. We watched on

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Speaker 1: the news, we watched Biden be like this has to

503
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Speaker 1: happen because of this, this and this, and you're like

504
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: not really, like but you can see. You can go

505
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: online and read what's happening. You can go online and

506
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: see like actual news. You can go to like Al Jazeera,

507
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: you can go to like you read what's going on

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Speaker 1: and be like, I don't know, I just don't think

509
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Speaker 1: that's necessary to the extremes that we take it to,

510
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Speaker 1: especially with the Uran, when you can actually go and

511
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Speaker 1: look at what's being reported about their nuclear program and

512
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: these choices and these are just it's just like, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know it is reel is like not feeling it,

514
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh well, oh good, oh well you're right. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to pose this question where it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's say, right now, there's a lot of talk

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Speaker 1: about Russian in Ukraine, right, it's just Russia Ukraine, Russia

518
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: Ukraine constantly and what is what is it that we're

519
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Speaker 1: saying Russia is doing that's wrong that they shouldn't be doing.

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Speaker 1: Ukraine is a sovereign nation. Russia can invade a sovereign nation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is no one seeing the irony of the

522
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Speaker 1: United States saying you can't invade sovereign countries. So that's

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Speaker 1: a basis for we're going to massively punish the Russian government.

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Speaker 1: The Russian government I put in quotes because again it's

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Speaker 1: broad scale. Sanctions would punish Russian people. But we're gonna

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Speaker 1: punish the Russian government because they invaded a sovereign country.

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Speaker 1: The same thing we did we put sanctions for human

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Speaker 1: rights violations. The US is you know, obviously country that

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Speaker 1: through its own wars and committing war crimes, is abusing

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Speaker 1: human rights. And domestically, of course, you can talk about

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Speaker 1: systemic racism, you can talk about the fact that we

532
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Speaker 1: have the most prisoners in the world. In fact, one

533
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Speaker 1: of every four prisoners on the planet is in the

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Speaker 1: United States. So these are all things that we could

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Speaker 1: that we sanction other countries for it that we do ourselves.

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Speaker 1: We sanction members of other countries, politicians, and other countries

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Speaker 1: on corruption charges. This while while in the U s

538
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Speaker 1: u s. Politicians buy stocks and make money off of

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Speaker 1: industries that they regulate, which in any other context we

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Speaker 1: would call corruption, but in the US is called capitalism.

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Speaker 1: So there's that. So the question becomes, okay, would would

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Speaker 1: be justified if right now Americans lost their savings, we're starving,

543
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Speaker 1: couldn't access medicines in a pandemic because of the actions

544
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Speaker 1: of the US government, which, according to the government itself,

545
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Speaker 1: are all sanctionable, sanctionable crimes, right, because that's what we

546
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Speaker 1: say to other countries. So it's just this constant loop

547
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Speaker 1: of hypocrisy. That is, if you pay attention to it

548
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: long enough, you miss being bored. Like I said, boredom

549
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: it is under it. It's just the more you pay attention,

550
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Speaker 1: the more frustrating it is. Becau It's like, what, we're

551
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: just full of ship. That's the only way of saying

552
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: it that that's very honest. It's like we just we

553
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: do things and then punish other countries for doing the

554
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: same things we do. Right, You retweeted a headline about

555
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: over a million fleet as Afghanistan's economy collapses and added

556
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: that Afghans are selling their children and Organs to survive

557
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: while the US is intentionally choking Afghanistan's economy because we

558
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: lost a twenty year war. Like that's yeah, that that's

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Speaker 1: just I feel like that is not getting the level

560
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Speaker 1: of attention that it probably deserves in the in the

561
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Speaker 1: mainstream media. That like that is what is happening. That

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Speaker 1: is the consequence, and it's being done in these bills,

563
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: and that that if you read them all, it would

564
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: break your brain. Like you you come out like the

565
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: other end with just like a thirty thousand miles stare

566
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: because so like they they know how to do it

567
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: in a way that is so boring that people won't

568
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: pay attention to it. But the the whole idea of

569
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: economic sanctions and like how Americans kind of justified to

570
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: themselves reminds me of the attitude of like corporations who

571
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: want credit for giving jobs to people, like who think

572
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: people should be like grateful for Like Trump at one

573
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: point was asked like what humanitarian thing, like to name

574
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Speaker 1: a single humanitarian thing he'd ever done, and he talked about,

575
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Speaker 1: like what if heat and clothed thousands of people who

576
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Speaker 1: worked for my company? I give so many jobs. I'm

577
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Speaker 1: a job creator, and like that idea that like rather

578
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: than like, these are people that should be grateful too

579
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Speaker 1: because they served me and I get to be a

580
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Speaker 1: billionaire celebrity. Uh. Instead of that, it's like, you know,

581
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Speaker 1: they owe me because I created this job, even though

582
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: that job would have been there just with a different

583
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: asshole at the top probably if Donald Trump didn't exist.

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00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: But like with the US and saying is obviously it's different,

585
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: but like I feel like it's similar logic, Like the

586
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: US creates the situations where they need people to do

587
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: things that aren't in their best interest and then starve

588
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: them when they don't do those things. And again they

589
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: act like they should get credit for like any economic

590
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: activity that happens anywhere in the world, and it's like

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00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: their right to withhold economic activity, like the US economy

592
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: is coming over there and like feeding them normally and

593
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: then just choosing not to with economic sanctions. But like

594
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: it would be easier for them to do nothing and

595
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: let children eat and like let their families like get

596
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Speaker 1: the food that like the global economy would bring to them,

597
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: but instead they are doing a great deal of work

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Speaker 1: to kill people, to like starve people in ways that

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00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: are just like don't don't make headlines. That the fact

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00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: that it doesn't make headlines is the important part, Right,

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00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: there were a lot of headlines during the Afghanistan withdrawal.

602
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: Drawing from Afghanistan, everyone across the media spectrum was constantly

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00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: talking about it, and and on sort of right wing

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00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: media that wanted to criticize Biden for withdrawing. It was

605
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: a question of abandoning the Afghan people, right, it was

606
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Speaker 1: abandoning the So that was the big things, like, oh,

607
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: look what we're doing to Afghan people, because they of

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Speaker 1: course care so deeply about the population of Afghanistan. Now

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00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: those same people are just silent on the fact that

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Speaker 1: you have I mean, when you read the stories about

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00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: people literally lining up to like sell Organs because they're

612
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: trying to survive there, they're setting when people talk about

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Speaker 1: selling their children, there's another situation. There's another humanitarian crisis,

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Speaker 1: what has been deemed the worst humanitarian crisis in the

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Speaker 1: world in Yemen, which the US is also complicit in.

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Speaker 1: Um So I always think, like, think about that fact.

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Speaker 1: Here we are talking about human rights, sweet were centering

618
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: human rights in foreign policy, and we love human rights

619
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: are so important to us, and yet the US is

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00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: complicit in the world's worst ongoing humanitarian crisis and is

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Speaker 1: now complicit and actually actively involved in the world's worst

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Speaker 1: oncoming humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan. So number one and number two,

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Speaker 1: the US is behind that. In both cases, it was like,

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Speaker 1: how can you still reasonably say that we are concerned about,

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00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, the fate of Afghan people when you know

626
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Speaker 1: more than half the population is facing starvation in a

627
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Speaker 1: freezing winter and we just do nothing about it. We

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00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: will spend, so we will spend. The United States will

629
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Speaker 1: spend trillions of dollars, put American soldiers and harms away,

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Speaker 1: a wage a war and bomb a country for two

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Speaker 1: decades in the name of liberating them, but then won't

632
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Speaker 1: lift a finger to not let them start Like this

633
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: doesn't require the US to do anything, just allow them

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Speaker 1: access to what belongs to the Afghan people, Like the

635
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: funds of the Central Bank of Afghanistan belongs to the

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Speaker 1: Afghan people, and that is being frozen. They have no

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Speaker 1: access to it, which is what central reason why the

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00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: economy is in free fall. It's collapsing, right, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: requiring intervention by the US two put these sanctions in place,

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Speaker 1: and that is preventing that. Like it's like, I think

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Speaker 1: people just have such a US centric view of the

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Speaker 1: world that they're just like, yeah, well they don't get

643
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Speaker 1: the nice things that we give to other countries as

644
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: opposed to know, the US is going in and like

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Speaker 1: freezing their economy essentially and starving people as a consequence.

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Speaker 1: I we think about the fact that the projections are

647
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: that more Afghans will die of starvation now in the

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Speaker 1: as a consequence of US economic policy, then died in

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Speaker 1: twenty years war. Wow, it's uh. And then you know,

650
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: naturally the US will then go sell weapons into the

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Speaker 1: region and make money off that, causing further destabilization and violence.

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Speaker 1: It's great, Yeah, we just make money. It's for us

653
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: to make money, right every time. I was actually one

654
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Speaker 1: of the most interesting points. It's like, oh, look at

655
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Speaker 1: these quote terrorists who have weapons. They get weapons. I'm like, well,

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00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: you know, if you wanted less weapons in the Middle East,

657
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: you could just stop selling them there. Yeah, you can

658
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: stop start giving them weapons. It's like, oh, Saudi Arabia

659
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: is committing war crimes in Yemen. Gets to the US

660
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: America's number one arms buyers, Saudi Arabia, and we just

661
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: sell them over and over again with no you know,

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00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: with no thought. It's like, where if we have the

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Speaker 1: world's leading like I think something like close to the

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Speaker 1: entire world's military budget spent by the US, we're also

665
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Speaker 1: the world's number one arms dealer. And it's just like,

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00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: well we are are so much of our economy is

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00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: run on weapons, and it's like, oh, we're we're peaceful nation.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that doesn't add up. That doesn't really add

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Speaker 1: up very well. Yeah, that's the degree to which the

670
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: US economy since like the beginning of the twentieth century

671
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: has been propped up by the military military industrial complex.

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Speaker 1: And like we we like it came up when people

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00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: were comparing some of the budgetary you know, infrastructure bills

674
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Speaker 1: or like humanitarian aid domestically with the defense budget, and

675
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Speaker 1: they were like, oh, this thing that's being described in

676
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: the media as a ten billion dollar bill that's over

677
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: the course of like a decade, and the military budget

678
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: is ten times that for just this year. Like it's

679
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: just invisible to people and therefore just like so powerful

680
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: and just like gets away with like doing really whatever

681
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: they want. But I think it like is the secret

682
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: behind the U s economy that like Americans don't want

683
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: to look at, is that the entire economy is propped

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Speaker 1: up by the fact that they spend as much as

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Speaker 1: they want on the military on weapons, and yeah, it's yeah,

686
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Speaker 1: that comparison point was so important right when when we

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00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: looked at like build back better or any anything where

688
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: it with social services, right, like services actually safety nets

689
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: for American people cannot get that passed in Congress, even

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Speaker 1: even a Congress that is, you know, a House and

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Speaker 1: Senate with Democrat majorities and Democrat white House. I think

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest frustrations for me is when you

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Speaker 1: listen to the Biden ad and say, oh, you know

694
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Speaker 1: the Republicans, I'm like, well, is it Yeah, like it

695
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: is to a certain extent, but also you have the

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Speaker 1: majority and everything. So somehow, amazingly the Republicans when they

697
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: are a majority can do whatever they want, and then

698
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: when they're a minority, they can block everything. And Democrats

699
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: are always helpless. Hmm. The majority of minority is always helpless,

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Speaker 1: almost as if that's their job. Secretly, that's what they're

701
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 1: there for, is to be that if they're not all

702
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: money in their pockets as well to like claim the

703
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: progressive ideals, but then actually not not get any of

704
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: them to move forward well in order to sort of

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Speaker 1: like sell this idea. First of all, the fact it's

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Speaker 1: called defense budget is itself right, like we're not we

707
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: are no one is attacking us here, like when this

708
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: is not happening in America, whereas everywhere else in the

709
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Speaker 1: world there they like if you look at the Middle East,

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Speaker 1: especially where we've had the biggest bootprint in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of decades, I mean, there's constant, constant war all

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Speaker 1: over the region. And so we talked about defense when

713
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: our military is across the world, like no one is

714
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Speaker 1: at our borders. We have the U. S. Military military

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Speaker 1: basis all over the world. We have you know, in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the Persian Gulf, you have the U. S.

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Speaker 1: Coast Guard. I love that. That's one of my favorite things.

718
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: The U. S. Coast Guard, the US coast, the guard

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00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: of the U. S. Coast is h And so you

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Speaker 1: have to have this sort of media hysteria that we're

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00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: always in danger because the only way to justify the

722
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: amount of money we spend is that to protect American

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Biden actually said that today about

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Speaker 1: the attack in Syria that took out I don't know

725
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: how many leaders ISIS has, but yet another ISIS leader

726
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: that took out an ISIS leader killed a few several civilians,

727
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Speaker 1: and then he said something to the effective or tweeted

728
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: something to the effective, you know, protecting American lives at

729
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: home or something like. But Syria is not attacking the US, right,

730
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Speaker 1: There are no Syrian troops in the US. There are

731
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: no Syrian troops or military basis anywhere close, not even

732
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: on the same hemisphere. And somehow that's that's the way

733
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: that it's framed. So it's you know, these countries are

734
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: all a threat to the US, Russia, China, Iran. At

735
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: one point it was Iraq, which is why we had

736
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Speaker 1: to invade Afghanistan, which is why we had to invade.

737
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Speaker 1: So you're we're we're bombarded, which is like psychological torture

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Speaker 1: to do that to your own people, Like we are

739
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: bombarded with messages that tell us we're always under threat.

740
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Speaker 1: So that justifies just trillions of dollars constantly being spent

741
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: on on wars abroad. Yeah, it's real fucking mess. Here's

742
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: here's my pitch. So we continue to call it a

743
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: defense budget right, but we pivoted to social services. But

744
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: we continue to call the defense budget because we need

745
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: defense from the US government the people, Because even one

746
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: third of that budget could do miracles for this country's

747
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: social services. Yeah, just even the bare minimum to give

748
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: us healthcare. I think it used to be called like

749
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: the war budget or something. Howard Zenn writes about that

750
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: in A People's History of the the United States that the

751
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: Department changed its name when they stopped waging defensive wars

752
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: and moved into starting to be like offensive. They changed

753
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: their name to Department of Defense to throw everybody off

754
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: the scent, and it was Department of War. That's what

755
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: it was. It was the Department of War. In Department

756
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: of War became Department of Defense. Yeah, and can you

757
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: imagine how much they paid the pr agency that helped

758
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: them pivot, Like and we just kind of have a

759
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: little positive spin. Maybe let make it look like we're

760
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: in trouble. They probably gave them cartoon bombs. Yeah, that's

761
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: probably where it all comes from. Like, now make all

762
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: imagery a little cartoonish, and everyone will be like, oh

763
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: my god, how cute. We do need that nuclear bomb? Okay, great,

764
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we're gonna

765
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: come back and we're going to talk about Rudy Giuliani

766
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: and Dolly Parton because we have to, and we're back

767
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: and just we we kind of got a sneak preview,

768
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: like a there was a leak of an upcoming piece

769
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: of mass media that will presumably feel like a psychedelic

770
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: experience that went bad, just like that Jimmy fallon Paris

771
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: Hilton clip that we talked about last week where they're

772
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: talking about their like board ape and f t s

773
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: and everyone's just like, yeah, board. So we got a

774
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: new one and it feels like a real doozy where

775
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: we got you know, it's like a Tim and Eric

776
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: bit but real because a apparently last week it will

777
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: air next month. But last week it was revealed that

778
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Speaker 1: one of the masked singers was Rudy Giuliani, and I

779
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: think Ken Jong and Robin Thick both walked out. Robin

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00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: activist of our generation, hero huge, you know, And if

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00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: I were if you were to be like pick which

782
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 1: host would or which judge would walk out, my first

783
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: pick would have been, well, obviously Robin Thick would not

784
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: stand for this classically. Well, I've always like felt a

785
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: little bit better knowing that he's still out there sort

786
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: of protecting our values, you know, just making sure that

787
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: people don't get away with some bullshit like this. Um No,

788
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, at least in this case, you did the

789
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 1: right thing. I just can't, like, I'm I've never seen

790
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: an episode of Masked Singer like beginning to end, and

791
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: I have seen a clip. It really feels like a

792
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: bad dream. Like the paper machee masks are scary, the

793
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: editing is like aggressive and strange, and then to have

794
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: the person under the mask be Rudy Giuliani. I mean,

795
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: we should obviously should not be surprised that he said

796
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: yes to this, Like he first of all, like his

797
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: I remember he used to like love to dress up

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00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: as a woman and sing and dance on SNL and

799
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: at any banquet that he would be allowed to do

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00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: that at. He just like needs attention the way other

801
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: living organisms need oxygen. So like, I'm not surprised that

802
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: he said yes to this, um, assuming that he's been

803
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: asking to do this for all seven seasons since they

804
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: started the show. But I don't know. It is on Fox,

805
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,479
Speaker 1: which you know it's made in America for Americans who

806
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: were previously okay with Sarah Palin being on the mask

807
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: singer in the Sean Spicer thing is getting brought up

808
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: a lot in this context. I personally feel like that

809
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: was not the worst thing, because watching him try to

810
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 1: dance and like where those outfits was a little like

811
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: the shame seeing where like seriously is paraded through the

812
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: city because he's just like not a good dancer and

813
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: not he was not pulling off those looks. But yeah,

814
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: it remains to be seeing how the Giuliani thing goes.

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00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: I think he's probably set a new high point for

816
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: the show in the category of costume that would smell

817
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: the worst when the mask is pulled off, gross, kind

818
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: of like why would you even pull it that imagery,

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00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: It will certainly be sweaty on the inside. Oh so

820
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: much sweat, probably hair dye like pouring down into his face. Oh,

821
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: this is miserable and editing. Have you ever watched like

822
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: a clip of the show when they like do the

823
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: mask reveal and it's yeah, it's like an episode of

824
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: Black Mirror. None of it feels real. You're like, Okay,

825
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: there's a budget for this. Someone is pending a lot

826
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: of money into this. It's wild that this show is

827
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: so popular and has maintained multiple seasons. I think the

828
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: weirdest partner. And this is just like one example of it, obviously,

829
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: But is this like politicians are not entertainers, Like when

830
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: did they become entertainers? They're not comedians. And by the way,

831
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: since we're saying that comedians are also not politicians. So

832
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: it's like this sort of conflating of the seriousness of

833
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: the work that they're supposed to be doing. Right, Like

834
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: people are charged. If you're the U. S. Government, you're

835
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: not only charged with the responsibility of, you know, carrying

836
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: out the will of three plus million people in this country,

837
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: which are most powerful country in the world, and you're

838
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: literally just on a daily basis killing people across the world.

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Speaker 1: And now we're watching them as a mass singer and

840
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: like dancing with the Stars, and you're saying, what this

841
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: is not There's a sort of especially for problematic political figures,

842
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: which is someone like Giuliani, there's this thing of rehabilitation

843
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: in media. It's like if you make them funny, if

844
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: you make them clowns, then people will stop thinking about

845
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: their criminality and the things that they did. And it's

846
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: like just Imagine this and to know how ridiculous our

847
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: behavior is, imagine it in another country. It's like, imagine

848
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: we bring up this is what they do in Russia,

849
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: and suddenly it's like, oh, that's disgusting. Like here's this

850
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: person who was part of an administration who did X,

851
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: Y and Z, who who tried to cool the country,

852
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: and now we're inviting him on our fun programming to

853
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: laugh at them and laugh with them. And it's just

854
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: a very bizarre way that we've developed relationships with these politicians.

855
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: And you see see the same thing with it's different

856
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: and categorically someone like Giuliani, but with like George Bush,

857
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like everyone's favorite. Y. I'm like,

858
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: he's more criminal. Yeah, he has no idea the damage

859
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: he's done in the Middle East. And guess what, he's

860
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 1: a painter. Now, well then you know, screw it. It's fine.

861
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: Now America's national treasure. George W. Bush like great, great, great,

862
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: great great great, Yeah, I will say it does say that.

863
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: Apparently Jenny McCarthy and Nicole Sharon Sharon or Sharon Shersinger there, sure, sure,

864
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: sure you don't know how to say that last name? Sure,

865
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: they both stayed on stage, to which I'm not surprised

866
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: Jenny McCarthy did. But a part of me thinks, like

867
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: Nicole sure Zinger probably has no idea who Rudy Juliani is.

868
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: Who is Nicole Schuer singer she's from, like Pussycat Dolls,

869
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: Like she's just a singer songwriter, that type. But I

870
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: don't think she probably has and she's British, so I don't.

871
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't she probably just like at this cute little

872
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: old man under the mask. I don't know how Sorry,

873
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: it's terrible. I don't know what impression I'm doing, but

874
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: that's the feeling I get that she just has no

875
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: idea what's going on. And then Jenny McCarthy, well, we

876
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: could sure she just doesn't even care. Yeah, I feel

877
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: like she's Rudy Gang. Yeah. Yeah, she feels like she's

878
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: not worried about what Rudy's up to. Yeah, I feel

879
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: like that. The Usually America loves the celebrity who doesn't

880
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: take themselves too seriously, like Jennifer Lawrence, she like fell

881
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: down and talked about pooping her pants and you know

882
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: she's you know, even an athlete. We love when they

883
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: like poke fun at themselves. But like we like we

884
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: should want politicians to take themselves seriously. They should they

885
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: should be taking their job pretty seriously because yeah, yeah,

886
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's that's the thing. It's like, I

887
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: also I don't think that we should go to sort

888
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: of like either extreme politicians are human beings. They can

889
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: they're valuable, they're allowed to make mistakes. They sometimes say

890
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: or they have said things a long time ago that

891
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: that people would take issue with, and there should be

892
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: that space to have that like discourse and that discussion.

893
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: But but to sort of to trivialize them is the

894
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: part that is frustrating to watch, Like when you're trivializing

895
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: their actions to then it's like, oh, that was really funny. No,

896
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: it's not. Putting the country in danger is not like

897
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: a funny thing. So it's just like very weird choices

898
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: by the and and they do it obviously for the

899
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: same reason you know, media channel or a broadcast company

900
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: will do anything. They'll get ratings. That's all that sort

901
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: of like matters in the end. Yeah, I mean we

902
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: were we're going to cut this part out that this

903
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: whole episode is a viral piece of content for the

904
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: mass singer it was all having you on everything. This

905
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: is branded content to get people to tune in when

906
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: the big reveal comes around. That. Rudy also like, do

907
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: they disguise their voices when they're singing the songs? Like

908
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: are they auto tuned? Yeah? I think it's purposeful, so

909
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: you don't you can't atomatically guess who, okay, because I

910
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: was gonna be like, I'm pretty sure like if I

911
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: heard somebody like breathing heavily and like drunk lee slurring

912
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: over the bag bagging track in a thick New York accent,

913
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: I'd be like, huh, I mean, we know who that is, Like,

914
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: it probably isn't him, right, I've never seen the show,

915
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: but it was the objective to get I mean, how

916
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: would you guess it? If it's not their voice, if

917
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: it's not them singing, how could you possibly guess who

918
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: the person is? I guess I don't understand the premise.

919
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: I think so apparently every season has a theme, and

920
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: this one was the good, the bad, and the cuddly.

921
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: So I guess it's just like it's like people, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

922
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: he's a cuddly Who could you want to cuddle with

923
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: more than Rudy Giuliani, a sweaty, alcoholic pervert who tried

924
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,479
Speaker 1: to bring down our country. I also have to correct myself.

925
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: Apparently I was thinking Nicole Sure is someone else. She's

926
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: not British, She's American, so I don't know what her

927
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: excuses with liking or being okay Rudy Giuliani being there.

928
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: I guess she is actually American. Sorry, I don't know why,

929
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: but pussycat dolls I confused them with another I don't know, Sorry, Nicole.

930
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: If there are Nicole Scherzinger stands out there who listened

931
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 1: to the dailies, I geist, you don't need to listen

932
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: to the dailies. I gist you're good, You're you're good,

933
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: just watch the mass singer or whatever. I actually don't

934
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: know anything about her. Maybe she's an amazing humanitarian who

935
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: just ripped him a new asshole when he took his

936
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: mask off. So I don't think so. Based on this

937
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: article i'm reading, it said her and Jenny McCarthy stayed. Yeah,

938
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: they just like bantered with him, which what does that

939
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: even mean? How do you banter with Juliani? Oh, the

940
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: guy loves he that guy loves improv. He was actually

941
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of early UCB people talk

942
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: about how you know he would always at the ass

943
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: cat and then really quickly just to end on a

944
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: I know, Dolly Parton may have just saved the Mexican pizza.

945
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: So a few days back, The take Out, which is

946
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: the fast food blug that we treat like The New

947
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: York Times on this show, pointed out that Dolly Parton

948
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: had voiced her support for the return of the Mexican

949
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: pizza in an interview with Insider, and like not she

950
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: didn't like take a hard stance. She was like, oh,

951
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: like one of my favorite things to eat, and like

952
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: named a bunch of taco bell items and then was like, oh,

953
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: and there's this other one Mexican pizza. They like one

954
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: of the restaurants used to make the Mexican pizza. And

955
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 1: then somebody told her that they had taken that away

956
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: and were like, should they bring it back? She was

957
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: like yeah, So it wasn't like she waged a campaign,

958
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know. She seems like magnetically pulled to

959
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: whatever the right opinion is on everything, and they apparently

960
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: are bringing back the Mexican pizza the spring, according to

961
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: kind of Mashed dot Com, which is sort of like

962
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: the Washington Post of this podcast. So maybe she can

963
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: bring back nacho fries as well, because those are also delicious.

964
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: And I don't know why it's so like it's seasonal. Yeah,

965
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: we wanted potatoes become seasonal potatoes and cheese. That's all. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

966
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: it's incredible. It's called part in power. I believe whenever

967
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: Parton puts her power into something, it comes back. She

968
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: invests the vaccine, Mexican pizza, all of it. She's her

969
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: powers are strong. History will use is more important, but

970
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: I have my really does feel like Mexican pizza at

971
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: this point based on how I feel this country people

972
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: care more about. Yeah, Mexican pizza in the vaccine. It's

973
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: just like something about it just like really made people happy.

974
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: Now here's what we do. You put the vaccine in

975
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: the Mexican pizza. Thank you. You should be rounding this country.

976
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: You make a vaccine requirement for eating fast food. Yeah,

977
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: that would be incredible. Could you imagine the country would

978
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: burn down? People people, they would be so pissed. Yeah,

979
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean what we talked about. I forget where it

980
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: was in the world, but they had talked about having

981
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: I think they actually did put in a vaccine mandate

982
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: for weed and to like in order to buy legal

983
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: weed you had to get be vaccinated, and like they

984
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: saw a huge increase, so it wasn't supposed to be

985
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: weed and alcohol. Like if you make a vaccine mandate

986
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: for weed and alcohol, like you're done. Everybody will get vaccinated. Yeah.

987
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: I was suggesting alcohol, and Miles was like, you know,

988
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: like that that would be the end, Like that would

989
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: be the end of society. People use their ship. But

990
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure there was like a legal weed, like

991
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: a trial of a llegal weed, like vaccine mandate and

992
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: it head in effect. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I mean

993
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: fast food. Yeah, alright, sorry, I was trying to find

994
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: I was trying to find it in fact check myself

995
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: to make sure that wasn't just a dream because I

996
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: dream in podcasts, but you're dream in like stories on

997
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: a dock. Yes. Yes, So it's been such a pleasure,

998
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: Dr Red. I will call you Dr Red. It's been

999
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: so wonderful having you on the show. Can't wait to

1000
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 1: have you back again. But you, like I said up top,

1001
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: you are a must follow on Twitter. You do an

1002
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: amazing like sort of tracked changes, correcting of New York

1003
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: Times headlines and just various headlines, and people just need

1004
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: to follow you if they don't already, where can people

1005
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: find you and follow you? Thank you Jack and on

1006
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: a for for having me on today. That was This

1007
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: was a really great conversation. And I really actually do

1008
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: hope that Dolly hears this part about the nacho price,

1009
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: being very serious about that. I love that, and they're

1010
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: not readily available to me. I was just gonna say,

1011
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: I sucked up, like as a as a podcast, so

1012
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: I should have asked, like what you guys favorite Like

1013
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: lost menu items are like menu items, right, so it's

1014
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: not okay. Mine was the soft potato taco and they

1015
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: actually did bring it back. I was gonna say, I'm like,

1016
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm pretty pure they have that still. I guess they

1017
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: took it away and now they brought it back. I

1018
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: put in a special request with Dolly partner and on

1019
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: her website where it's like suggestions for me to get

1020
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: involved in, and she didn't run it back for me.

1021
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: There's actually something else. And this is all revealing just

1022
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: how much fast food and specifically talk about I eat.

1023
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good but it's delicious. It

1024
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: is with our with our listenership. Unfortunately, that's very good.

1025
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: They had on like the Dollar Menu too. It was

1026
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: like a beefy Frito burrito and actually have friedo ships. Yeah,

1027
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: the brito. Yeah. I may have like shed a tear

1028
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: when they took that off the menu. I was like,

1029
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: you put Rito's in the burrito. That was brilliant. I

1030
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: don't understand why we're taking away really good items. But yeah,

1031
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: so you can find me and do not talk about

1032
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: this stuff on Twitter. I should. I should probably would. Yeah,

1033
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean maybe you should, honestly, but I don't know.

1034
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: This is my next sort of venture on Twitter will

1035
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: be fast food items that I could do. I could

1036
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: do a lot about that. Actually, um my handle on

1037
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: Twitter is s al rad, so it's just at a

1038
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: S S A L R A D and that. That

1039
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: is really the only social media platform that I pay

1040
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: attention to. And in fact, the funny thing about it

1041
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: is the only reason I'm on Twitter is because I

1042
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: was forced to be by work. When I started working

1043
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: at NACK in the beginning of two thousand nineteen, They're like, well,

1044
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: you know you have to be on Twitter, do I

1045
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: are you sure about that, Like, yeah, no, you don't

1046
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: have a PhD. Right, Well, I will say, well, say

1047
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: it was a great source of just like fast information

1048
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: of like what's going on. And because I wasn't on

1049
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: and I wasn't quite aware of the fact that you

1050
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,479
Speaker 1: actually we have like heads of state diplomats, these people

1051
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: are using this platform too. I mean, if you're Trump,

1052
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: he was using it to try to declare wars. So

1053
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's important to know what's going on. Apparently

1054
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: on Twitter there's real stuff happening there. But yes, that's

1055
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: the that's the only social media platform that I am

1056
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,959
Speaker 1: active on. Cool And is there a tweet or some

1057
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: work of social media you've been enjoying. Uh Nima Shirazi

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Speaker 1: had a tweet actually about the Bob Menendez nuclear weapon

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Speaker 1: graphic something where he called because the funny thing about

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Speaker 1: the graphic too, is it supposed to so he's just

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Speaker 1: this like a blimp cartoon looking bomb and it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be the Iranian flag. So it's like green, white,

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Speaker 1: and red, except the stripes are a vertical instead of horizontal,

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Speaker 1: and so it's actually the Italian flag and not the flag.

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Speaker 1: And so you've have pointed that out, and I thought

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Speaker 1: it was hilarious because we were just like, I have

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Speaker 1: to read the tweet. Actually, well, yeah, you guys can

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Speaker 1: pull up the tweet because it's pretty it's pretty funny

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Speaker 1: that he basically says something about Iran is developing its

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Speaker 1: safeguard nuclear energy program using an Italian blip. So I

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Speaker 1: thought that was damn that is true though. That's a

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Speaker 1: classic Iranian move. Anna, where can people find you and

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Speaker 1: follow you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? I'm at

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Speaker 1: a host n on Twitter. A few tweets I'm enjoying.

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Speaker 1: One is from Zack Anner at Zack Anner and it's

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Speaker 1: the mass Singer is not the bastion of integrity. I

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01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: once believed it to be right. And then one from

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Speaker 1: Meredith at Deats Underscore. Meredith, my dad just texted me.

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Speaker 1: Can you give me a call? So either he wants

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01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: to say hi or my whole family is dead, it

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Speaker 1: would be both. Oh my god. I saw that too,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was hilarious because I could relate

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01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: to it so much. Yeah, but that's always like, give

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Speaker 1: me a call and I'm like, oh my god, what happened?

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01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: And he's like what's up. Yeah, and you're like, what, God,

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01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't send those texts. And there's actually

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Speaker 1: it's every time. Every time my dad's like leaves me

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Speaker 1: a voice message like oh no, give me a call back,

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Speaker 1: and then I called back and he's like, so I

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01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: was at Costco and and you're like, what do you?

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01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: And like when I leave a message or like ask

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Speaker 1: somebody to call me or anything like that, I am

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01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: always so I'm like, but don't worry, nothing's wrong, Like

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Speaker 1: everything's good. Like I feel like that's how you tell

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01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: part of people who have like anxiety is like, yeah,

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01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: it gets me. I always get scared for a second. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And then it's always just my dad was just like

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Speaker 1: I saw some I saw this. It's always at Costco.

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Speaker 1: My dad's always at Costco. He goes every day and

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Speaker 1: now that he's retired and he has nothing to do,

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Speaker 1: and it's always like something he saw at Costco that

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01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: he thought maybe I should go to my Costco in

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Speaker 1: l a and see if they have because maybe I'd

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01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: be interested in it, but maybe not. I don't know

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01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: something to think about. Anyway, I was in the garden

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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, just text me like

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Speaker 1: I was at Costco. Would love to tell you about

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Speaker 1: something versus call me why you like, Okay, everyone died.

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Speaker 1: That's what I got. You can find me on Twitter

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01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: at jack Underscore. O'Brien, uh tweet I enjoyed Professor Hinckley

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: at prof Underscore. Hinckley tweeted, Babe, listen, I need you

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01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: to bring me fifteen thousand dollars cash my passport. I

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Speaker 1: out pizza the Hut and there after me and then

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Speaker 1: Mike Scolland. I don't want to read this. I feel embarrassed,

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01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: but I'm going to Mike Scolland's tweeted me me jerking

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Speaker 1: off a dog with the Jackass boys. So you guys

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Speaker 1: said you have a show? What's it about? Is so stupid?

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Speaker 1: One really got me like he doesn't know that this

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Speaker 1: is part of the show. Explained the joke to you anyways. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at daily zeit guys

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01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: for at the Daily Ze Guist on Instagram. We have

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Speaker 1: a Facebook fan page on a website daily z guys

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Speaker 1: dot com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes

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Speaker 1: were link off to the information that we talked about

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Speaker 1: today's episode as well as a song that we think

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Speaker 1: you might enjoy. And we're gonna ask super producer Justin

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Speaker 1: to come on in and uh tell the people about

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Speaker 1: a song that he thinks they might enjoy. That we

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Speaker 1: will be linking off too on the footnotes. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for the intro. Jack. I've noticed for the

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Speaker 1: every day so far February, you've been highlighting black musicians,

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01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: so I just want to keep that trend going. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: we you know, make it through the whole month. But

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite songs I'm enjoying right now is

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Speaker 1: by a very well known artist, burn A Boy. But

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Speaker 1: this song really hits me because if you want to

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01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: feel like you're driving in an open top jeep on

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Speaker 1: a beach in subtropical Africa for just a few minutes,

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Speaker 1: turn on this thing. Okay, this is Cony Baje. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm mispronouncing that because I have stupid American ears

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Speaker 1: and this is how they hear them, and it sound

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01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: my stupid American mouth reinterprets that sound. Um. But this

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Speaker 1: the key to this tracks funkiness is its syncopatient, the percussion,

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01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: the guitars, the way they play off of each other,

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01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 1: and then the rhythms and the counter melodies off boy,

1147
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: they will just send you to another place. You can

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01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: have so much fun analyzing the little pieces of this

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01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: song that he keeps going in. There's all types of

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Speaker 1: saxophones and strings and little pieces of African percussion that

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01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: your mind can just plan to flag in and and

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Speaker 1: just just sit there and enjoy your your time. So

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Speaker 1: check this out. This is Cony boj Ko and I

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Speaker 1: Be a j E by burna Boy, And you can

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Speaker 1: check that out and put mopes all right. Damn, If

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Speaker 1: I ever make a piece of music, I'm gonna ask

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01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: Justin to describe it to people. They'll probably ship on

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: it because it will be bad. But he's good at that.

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01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: He's really good at describing songs anyways. The Daily Zeitgeist

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Speaker 1: is a production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts

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Speaker 1: from my Heart Radio, visit the i Heart Radio app

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That

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Speaker 1: is going to do it for us this morning. We

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Speaker 1: are back this afternoon to tell you what's trending though,

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you all then. By Hi,