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Speaker 1: Let's talk hit that trumpet there. Let's talk about FSU

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Speaker 1: That's not an issue.

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Speaker 2: Look, Florida State tried to lose this game. When you

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Speaker 2: it's Georgia Tech. He looked better. They needed four attempts

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Speaker 1: Forty one is better than that.

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Speaker 1: Shall we play the game? Sure it would be this

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Speaker 2: team a huge situation like I don't know a Georgia,

433
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Speaker 2: a Utah, a Florida State, any of those types of teams.

434
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Speaker 1: Uh, Pump, pump some breaks, s pump some breaks on

435
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Speaker 1: how concept it's except if it's Billionnapier.

436
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 2: Again, I said, Utah and Florida and Billion Napier did

437
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: a good chunk of things to lose that game.

438
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Speaker 1: There was the lost one. Though they did win.

439
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: The loss was very much on a clean plate in

440
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 2: front of them on the tape.

441
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Speaker 1: So you've been doing this thing all weekend and I

442
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: don't really like it. I don't really like it because

443
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: we talk about a team winning and you're like, God,

444
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: but they tried to lose. Did they lose? Did Florida lose?

445
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: They went ahead with a minute and a half left,

446
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: They they tightened up on defense in the red zone,

447
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: as Utah themselves didn't do much in the red zone.

448
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 2: I'm just saying they won their clunkers, which is a

449
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: great thing against a very good team with playoff expectations

450
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: and major conference major quote unquote conference championship expectations in Utah.

451
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: God, it hurts as a peck Buell fan. I'm not

452
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: gonna lie. It hurts this but these pastime that was

453
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: an own goal, but I appreciate it.

454
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but there were there were There was a

455
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: lot to be desired from this Florida defense, Uh, getting

456
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: pushed around a good amount. Utah's own defense did a

457
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: good job against Anthony Richardson a lot of the time.

458
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Speaker 1: They did win. No, Florida did win that game.

459
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 2: They did win, and that's great. Win your games when

460
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: your clunkers, when your pseudo clunkers whatever. I'm just saying

461
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: a loss was on the table. Florida didn't win that game,

462
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Speaker 2: twenty eight to fourteen. That's what I'm saying. Okay, So

463
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: you asked me for three to five conclusions to jump to, Yes.

464
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: Jump to them, jump to them. You can jump to

465
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Speaker 1: them whatever. I have a dozen. It Okay, yeah, give me,

466
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: give me one, all right.

467
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: I'm buying more James Madison stock. Give me those Dukes.

468
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: Tie.

469
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: That's where we're starting at the top. Who's stopping these dukes.

470
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: They have a quarterback, they've got winning DNA.

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Speaker 1: Moving on up.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I'm telling you right now, early September

473
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Speaker 2: go jmw Okay, so we'll go more.

474
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Speaker 1: In detail about some other teams. Okay, I'm buying early.

475
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm buying down on Utah even though I just don't

476
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: think the bag twelve is much in the way of

477
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: defensive resistance, and I think they're still going to win

478
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 2: a lot of games and end up in a really

479
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: nice postseason spot. So I know, you know, the way

480
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 2: that they lost and their red zone opportunities. I'm my

481
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: conclusion with Utah is they're just as good as I

482
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 2: thought they were last week, and it's going to get easier.

483
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: So that's a conclusion on the Utes, I'm still with them.

484
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: If not buy scooping up some stock is maybe perhaps

485
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Speaker 2: some people are selling on on the Utes. I'm buying

486
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: more Michigan stock based off are you one. I'm buying

487
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,239
Speaker 2: more Michigan stock because it's becoming clearer and clearer to

488
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: me that the cade McNamara experiment is just that, it

489
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: is just an experiment, and it is just an emotion

490
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 2: exercise to get JJ McCarthy healthier and in there and saying, well,

491
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: we gave Kate a shot, and it just seems like

492
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: that's the road we're heading down. And with how well

493
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: he looked to be running that offense and me forgetting

494
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: a couple of names on that offense, Oh.

495
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still there. I am Roman Wilson.

496
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: I had donavand evers, I think it was Colorado State

497
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: new coach, whatever. But Michigan looked like an excellent team

498
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: should look like in week one, as a well oiled

499
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: machine coming off of a playoff experience. And that's all

500
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: I just wanted that. I wanted to look like they

501
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: should have looked. And so I'm not fully stocking up.

502
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: I'm not stuffing my pantry full of Michigan stock. But

503
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: I've made more peace with what I think they're trying

504
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: to do and getting JJ McCarthy and is that full

505
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: time guy? So okay, and that is something that is

506
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: a direction I'm going with Michigan.

507
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: Okay. By the way, your guy Todd Senttio, the starting

508
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: quarterback for James Madison. I just wanted to double check,

509
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, reference the PFF stat earlier Todd Santio the

510
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: highest graded passer through UH to one and a half seas.

511
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, in all of college football whatever,

512
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: it's yeah, somebody has eighty dollars. I've got Florida State

513
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: beating Clemson and going ten and two.

514
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: Florida State is going to beat Clemson and go ten

515
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 2: and two based on the conclusion you're drawing on their

516
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: two yes games.

517
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Speaker 1: If we are jumping to very quick conclusions, I am

518
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: hitching my wagon to Florida State. We've been waiting for

519
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: this moment. We've been waiting for this team to feel

520
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: like it turns a corner at some point under Mike

521
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: Norvel got off to a rocky start in twenty twenty

522
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: with some off field stuff last season a start from hell,

523
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: pulled together nicely down the stretch, and now off to

524
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: a two and zero start here to start the season.

525
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: They beat Duquine week one week zero, excuse me, whatever,

526
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: But the LSU win, try as they might to lose

527
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: in spots, still comes out as a dub on the

528
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: final tally sheet. I thought Jordan Travis looked awesome, and

529
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to take this time to issue a bit

530
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: of a mia culpa because I'm ready.

531
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, let me set up straight, crack

532
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: my neck, because I told you continue.

533
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: It could be that ty was just uninformed, yeah, underinformed,

534
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: whatever the word is on Jordan Travis. It could be

535
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: that I was asleep at the wheel here and he

536
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: looked really good to me, Dan, he looked really good

537
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: to me. Like I said, I counted one pass maybe

538
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: two passes that were really bad. Everything else seemed like

539
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: it was confident. It was on time. He knew what

540
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: he was doing. He wasn't dilly dialing around back there.

541
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: He's obviously mobile, a true dual threat, as some say,

542
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: in this offense, and I think that is the kind

543
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: of system, if executed well, that you need to beat

544
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: to Clemson because of their speed along the front seven

545
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: and especially their talent along that defensive line. You need

546
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: a guy who can move right. Tyler van Dyke is good,

547
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: but Tyler van Dyke as compared to Jordan Travis, definitely

548
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: more of a statue. Jordan Travis can move, He can

549
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: get outside the pocket, This is a guy that you know,

550
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: he's been in the system for a couple of years.

551
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: He knows what he's doing, and I thought it showed

552
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: so for my money and because of the schedule, that

553
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: definitely looked harder two weeks ago than it does now.

554
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: I feel really good about Florida State and especially their

555
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: chances of getting one over on Clemson. So mark me

556
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: down now, way too early. Florida State ten and two

557
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: beating Clemson.

558
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: Can give you. You know, after the State of the Union,

559
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,239
Speaker 2: you have the like counterpoint from the other party they

560
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: select somebody. I'm not a Florida State fan. I can

561
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: just through radioactive waves floating through the ether of people

562
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: listening to that and projecting those waves into the I

563
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: don't know if that's how radioactive waves were. I can

564
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: hear Florida State fans out loud saying, ty, we appreciate

565
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: your optimism and your enthusiasm. That's it's awesome. You are

566
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: high on some of the guys that we ourselves are

567
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: high on. But Mike Norvelle is sort of Sunshine State

568
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: James Franklin at the end of games like, we hear you,

569
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: But we have a coach who is not against losing

570
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: winnable games in the way he conducts his in game

571
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: strategy thinking. So that's the problem is that Florida State

572
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: could appear to be a ten and two team ish

573
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: for stretches of games and like, oh, they're up twenty

574
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: three to fourteen with six minutes left.

575
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: There's two scores. They've been playing well on both sides

576
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: of I'm sorry what happened? I'm sorry? How do they

577
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: lose this game? There is a good amount.

578
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 2: Of sample size evidence that Florida State is willing to

579
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: lose winnable games.

580
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: How old do you think Mike Norvella? Is you think

581
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: he is older younger than me?

582
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: No, I think he is a little bit older than you.

583
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: I think he prematurely grade. So I don't know.

584
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: Is he forty one? He's a month a month older

585
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: than me?

586
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, okay, forty seven years old. He's older

587
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: than I thought. He's a month older than you. Okay, yeah,

588
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: So somewhere in there.

589
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: How dare you be smirch the silver fox that is

590
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: Mike norvel How dare you? Yeah? How dare you? I think? Yeah?

591
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: I think they are a seven to five ish, eight

592
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: and four ish team. Oh, They're way better than that.

593
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: Come on, way better as telling you, Ty, they will

594
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: lose multiple winnable games. They already tried.

595
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: Ty.

596
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: They're on the record, is trying to lose a winnable

597
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: game to baby, Let's go there on the record.

598
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Okay, here's my other one. Here's my other going, keep going.

599
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: My other one is really just a pat on the back.

600
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: I was right about Ohio State, I was right about

601
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: High State. I picked him the win it all. I

602
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: am not backing down. If anything, I'm doubling down. Okay,

603
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: the game that we saw clunker factor high. In that

604
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: game against Notre Dame. They were not firing on all cylinders.

605
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: They were without Jackson Smith and Jigbuy has a hamstring thing.

606
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: Apparently Mike is a game or two. They were also

607
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: without Julian Fleming, who had some shoulder issues in fall camp.

608
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: You know, I think that definitely affected CJ. Stroud a

609
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: little bit. He also went up against I think a

610
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: pretty good defense a Notre Dame, so there were moments

611
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: in that game where he did not look accurate. There

612
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: were moments in that game where they had to adjust,

613
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: and I think the adjustments are why I feel even

614
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: more optimistic about Ohio State because they needed to change

615
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: their game plan on offense and switched to more of

616
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: a downhill style running attack, which they did I thought

617
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: really well, notably with my and Williams, and they just

618
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: beat Notre Dame's brains in down the stretch and that

619
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: was how they ran out the clock and eventually got

620
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: the eleven point. Though on defense they also needed to

621
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: change some things as well. And you know, whether it's

622
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: a second half Jim Knowles thing or a second half

623
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: Tommy Reese thing or both working in tandem, sure, who's

624
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: to say, But it just felt to me like Ohio

625
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: State had the flexibility in scheme to change their mind

626
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: on a couple key points and eventually put that game

627
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: on ice as we got into the late stages of

628
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: the third quarter and all throughout the fourth. So that

629
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: ability to change what they're doing, really their style wholesale

630
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: on offense and go in a different direction, to me

631
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: was really telling.

632
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: But you also thought they were going to score like

633
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: thirty five forty five points against Notre Dame. I did,

634
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: I did, and so they didn't do that. And so

635
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: the conclusion you are jumping to is maybe without some

636
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: star power at receiver, maybe because Notre Dame's defense is

637
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: really good and they're not going to see a lot

638
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: of defenses as good as what Notre Dame can offer.

639
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: Especially upfront that it was a week one, you know,

640
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: it's not fully fair to say this is who Ohio

641
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: State is and isn't correct or a week against what

642
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: we think is a pretty good Notre Dame team. You're

643
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: saying that the way in which they were down at

644
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: the half flip things adjusted on the fly, relying on

645
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: more power rushing, and the improvement they seem to show

646
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: on defense secures the variety of ways in which Ohio

647
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 2: State you believe will go down as the twenty twenty

648
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: two national champion.

649
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: That is correct, And you know one other point there,

650
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: going into half, Notre Dame had a fair amount of

651
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: momentum in that game. It felt like in the second quarter,

652
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: especially Notre Dame had done some different things schematically to

653
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, stop doing what they were doing in the

654
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: first quarter and be a little bit more downhill in

655
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: their approach, and it worked. It got some momentum for them.

656
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: The second half was a completely different ball wax, completely different.

657
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's momentum was pretty much up in thin air

658
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: because of what Jim Knowles was doing on defense. And

659
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: I really appreciate the way I mean not as a

660
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: Notre Dame fan, but just as a college football fan,

661
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: the way they were able to go in at halftime,

662
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: make adjustments, come out and be a better team for it.

663
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 2: Well, your team is Notre Dame. Do you have a

664
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: conclusion to jump to about the Irish and too soon?

665
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: Tommy? Yeah, I mean no, no, not yet. I think

666
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: the defense, the defense is very solid and I knew

667
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: that going in. That is not a new conclusion for me.

668
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: If anything, they held down Ohio State with their secondary

669
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: much better than I expected. And I don't know if

670
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: that was a function of the defensive line getting pressure

671
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: or if that was just the guys in the secondary

672
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: holding their lanes, doing their part and playing tight coverage.

673
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: There were definitely moments down the stretch where guys are

674
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: getting beat starting Hilly cam Hart's pulling on some jerseys

675
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: there to prevent against a big play. So defensively, I

676
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: felt like they were as good, if not a little

677
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: bit better than I expected. Offense, though I don't know,

678
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I mean, they're not going to play

679
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: a defense like that. No, basically the rest of the year, right, Yeah,

680
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: it remains to be seen where the offense is at.

681
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: I want to see Lorenzo Styles get the ball more

682
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: outside of the first play of the game. I want

683
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: to see Tyler Buckner have a chance to set his

684
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: feet more and actually deliver a pass. There were a

685
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: couple pass like I think Buckner's got real potential, and

686
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm excited about what he can do. There were definitely

687
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: moments in that game where it's like, maybe he should

688
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: throw off his front foot and not his back. Maybe

689
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: he should throw in front of Michael Maher and not

690
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: expect a miraculous catch. I'd like to see him mature

691
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more before I draw any conclusions there.

692
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: Fair Enough, I don't have any conclusions about either one

693
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 2: of these teams that that alters what I thought about

694
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: them going in. I thought they were both going to

695
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: be very good to excellent, and I still think that

696
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 2: in the case of Ohio State excellent and Notre Dame

697
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: very good. I'm dumping a little bit of all miss Yeah,

698
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: me too. Actually, I'm why for you. I'm worried about quarterback.

699
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: I'm worried that perhaps we didn't put enough respect on

700
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 2: Matt Correll's name and enough respect on what they lost

701
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: on offense skill wise, and I still think that. I mean,

702
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: the defense is very good, and we expected it to

703
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: be even with losing DJ Dirkin. That's where they've really

704
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: taken a number of impressive steps forward these past couple

705
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: of years. But offensively, I'm willing to give them time.

706
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm willing to believe Lane Kiffin figures this out. But

707
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 2: with their schedule, Yeah, and when with things a little

708
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: bit unsettled at quarterback and new quarterback, new offensive coordinator,

709
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: a lot of new skill guys all trying to sort

710
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: of get on the same page to produce some sort

711
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: of scary symphony. I'm I'm a little bit worried, a

712
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: little bit more worried than I was. Lane Kiffin was

713
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: one of those is one of those guys that I

714
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: generally give the benefit of the doubt, but I'm downgrading

715
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: them to will always be scary on offense too. They'll

716
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: figure it out and be pretty good, but I don't

717
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: know if it's going to be anywhere near the kind

718
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: of success overall winning double digit games like they did

719
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: last year.

720
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's really interesting about The Old Miss thing to

721
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: me is that, in a sense, people had jumped to

722
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: conclusions back in April. Right, they bring over Jackson Dart.

723
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: He looked the part. He's got the Anakin Skywalker thing

724
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: going on. There's a vibe here. He didn't look all

725
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: that good. No. In week one. You know, we've had

726
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: some Old Miss fans who've written in and say Lukealtmeyer

727
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: is the better player, he should be the quarterback. And

728
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: as we know now, Ole Miss is doing the Michigan thing. Yeah,

729
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: or maybe Michigan's doing the Old Miss thing. I don't

730
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: know where. They're playing both quarterbacks in the first two games.

731
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: Maybe lu Kaltmeyer will be the guy by the time

732
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: the dust settles here. But certainly in week one you

733
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: need a really good quarterback to run that system, and

734
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart left a lot to be desired. Zach Evans

735
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: was good. They're the transfer. He was really good.

736
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but he already was good in a Power

737
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: Comp five conference in a pseudo full time role.

738
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right. So the quarterback thing I

739
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: think definitely warrants a bit of a downgrade for Ole Bass.

740
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm fully dumping the stock because

741
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: I do believe that Link Kiffin's a pretty good coach.

742
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: He'll get this thing sorted out. Oh yeah, they'll be fine.

743
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: They'll be fine. But it's tough schedule. It's the SEC West,

744
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: and there's not a whole lot of wiggle room if

745
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: you can't get that position sorted out.

746
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: I am taking my Nebraska Optimism stock and I am

747
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 2: putting it in a cage, which I'm then putting into

748
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: a safe, which I'm then wrapping in barbed wire that's

749
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: electrified somehow, and I am burying it underneath the Marianas Trench?

750
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 2: Is that what it's called? Can they go under the

751
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: place the trench where there's a will, there's a way?

752
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: Okay. Lincoln, Nebraska is where losers go to lose. Oh wow.

753
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: Or it's where winners go to lose. It's where people

754
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: well who we think will be good. It is a

755
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: losing place to lose. It is the college football upside down.

756
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

757
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: It is just not a place that can be turned

758
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: around at all this year and any anytime soon. I

759
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: am out. I am fully out. I know it's for

760
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: them their second week post week one, you say, you

761
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: know what, let's crack our knuckles, let's crack our neck,

762
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: let's crack our back and lay waste.

763
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: To who they play North Dakota, and.

764
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: They didn't for a half, like they could just just

765
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: give the ball to Anthony Grant, just complete passes in

766
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: play action, just like let's get going, let's shake the cobwebs,

767
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: these Irish cobwebs, these guinness filled cobwebs. And they didn't

768
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: have that ability. Do you think, Sorry, sorry if that's

769
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: asking too much. I know they ran away from North

770
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: Dakota in due time, but like, no, I'm out. I'm

771
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: fully out of my Nebraska optimism. It is a loser

772
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: place right now.

773
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: Do you think that Scott Frost or Mark Whipple or

774
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: just the coaching staff at Nebraska is guilty of riding

775
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: the overthink express.

776
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, and that it's not solvable with the

777
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: same staff cannot turn things around if philosophically they're not

778
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: able to do it against North Dakota. Now I can

779
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: look at their schedule and also say like, wow, there's

780
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: a lot of questionable teams here.

781
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.

782
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: I believe in Iowa more than I believe in Nebraska,

783
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: and Iowa just gave us the Gentleman's touchdown, right, it

784
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: all win against their own Dakota struggle. So I'm just out.

785
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: I just I don't want I did this a couple

786
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: of years ago with Texas FROMRCI. I don't want any

787
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: Texas might win a couple games, that might. I don't

788
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: want to hitch any sort of brain power in the

789
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: direction and onto the saddle of the Nebraska corn Huskers.

790
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: I just they're a waste for everybody unless you're a

791
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: Nebraska fan. Maybe especially if you're a Nebraska fan, to

792
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: waste any sort of emotional intelligence.

793
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: This is a serio commentary, Dan, this is I really

794
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: want it. It is really hurtful language from you.

795
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: I like all sorts of players in a vacuum that

796
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: are suiting up for Big Red. I think they're talented,

797
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 2: I think they're interesting. Now it is it is strictly

798
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: a geography thing for me that right now in Lincoln, Nebraska,

799
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: within that facility, there is no hope.

800
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, that's a conclusion. Talk about jumping in with

801
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: two feet good with my chest. Sorry.

802
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes and this is this is what has been true

803
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: about places. Sometimes it's just the place in concert with

804
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: the person running the place, and I know they have

805
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 2: a new a d I know you know they they've

806
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: been making efforts on the staff and either puking an

807
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: extra amount along the offensive line whatever. Nah, damn, No,

808
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: you lose that way to Northwestern, who may still be

809
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: awful by the way, we don't know. I might try

810
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: to get by the way. I think it's this week

811
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: Northwestern is playing Duke right, correct. I might try to

812
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: get to that tailgate. It's not terribly far away. I

813
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: might try to get to that tailgate. If you see

814
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: me out at the Northwestern tailgate, say what's up. I

815
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm just washing.

816
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: My hands of it, Ty, just washing my hands of it. Next,

817
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: I've got Sean Clifford not being Penn State's starting quarterback

818
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: by the end of the year, So.

819
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: That the conclusion is that it's going to be a

820
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: drew A lar Are we positive? That's how we're pronounce it,

821
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: drew a lar led team.

822
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: Drew Alar, Drew Aller, Drew a Laire. It's really in

823
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: the eye of the beholder, Dan. But yeah, in the

824
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: very limited action, I mean, this is a kid club

825
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: Nick situation in a sense where we saw very limited

826
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: action from the backup quarterback, a highly touted freshman or

827
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: highly touted, you know what, would be a first year starter.

828
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: And he, I mean, he was just better. He was

829
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: better in all facets. He's bigger, his arm is stronger,

830
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: he seemed more confident with the football. And I just

831
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: keep wondering how long it's going to take James Franklin.

832
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: How long is it going to take him to just

833
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: pull the switch. He sees it too, if we see it,

834
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: you know, he sees it. Yeah, And so I'm just

835
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: curious as to how long it's going to take for

836
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 1: them to get to this stage here. It may be

837
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: thrust upon him in the event of another injury to

838
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: Sean Clifford. We saw he apparently had some cramps in

839
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: this one. That's why he was out. That's why there

840
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: was a backup situation to begin with in the game

841
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: against Purdue on Thursday evening. You know, we don't want

842
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: anybody to get hurt, for sure, but that's definitely part

843
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: of Sean Clifford's mo At this point, it could happen.

844
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: Maybe that's how we see the backup. It could just

845
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: be a performance based thing either way, whether it's by

846
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: injury or due to Penn State losing a game at

847
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: some point point. I give it until Penn State's first

848
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: loss before we see do.

849
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: You think it's going to be full time or do

850
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: you think it's going to be? Like, well, here comes

851
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: the freshman, and coach Franklin said he was gonna we're

852
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: working in some packages for him, Like do you think

853
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: it's going to be a seventy thirty situation or just

854
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: a switch fully flipped.

855
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a switch. I think

856
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: it has to be a switch because what's the skill,

857
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: Like if it's a Jaydeen Daniels Garrett Nusmeyer situation, Okay,

858
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: Jade Daniels likes to run the ball more, right, he's

859
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: going to give them more in that capacity. But these

860
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: players are close enough in terms of what they provide

861
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: that I can't imagine there'd be a package type deal

862
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: or you want to go to one thirty percent of

863
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: the time and then the other seventy percent. Doesn't seem

864
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: like that would make a whole lot of logical sense

865
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: to me, even like with Buckner last year versus Jack Cone,

866
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: Buckner was exclusively the running quarterback, which drove me crazy,

867
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: but he certainly gave them a different look. Something else

868
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: out there that the defense had to scheme around at

869
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: least think about. But these two skill sets are compatible

870
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: enough that I just don't see it. I think he

871
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: makes the move. I think you should do it sooner

872
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: than later, because the backup in this case is better

873
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: than the starter.

874
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out on Kansas State in the way.

875
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: That I was what in the way that I was

876
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: in whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Woa. You

877
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: can't just drop a buck. It's one thing to use

878
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: the hurtful I know language that you did about Nebraska,

879
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: a team, by the way, that you were pretty high

880
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: on when we did the previews. Yeah, but it's another

881
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: altogether to break up with with with the purple people eaters. Yeah.

882
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: Well, guess where I guess where Andrew Martinez transferred him

883
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: the loser place where losers go to lose.

884
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: So this is a.

885
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: Sorry, I just I'm not in. You win a game

886
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: thirty to nothing against South Dakota and you can't throw the.

887
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: Ball at all. Nah. This is really a Nebraska thing

888
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: for you, isn't it, I guess?

889
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 2: But it's also just a show me something if I'm

890
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: going to believe you as a potential Big twelve threat.

891
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: You gonta be able to throw the ball again. South Dakota.

892
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: Sorry, they're going to improve, They're gonna get better. They're

893
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: gonna have really strong looking games. But it also just

894
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: tells me what they're capable of. It tells me what

895
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: they're capable of against Oklahoma State, against Baylor, against Oklahoma

896
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: and I'm just out on it. I am out on

897
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: Kansas State in that regard. Still go eight in four,

898
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: nine to three or something like that, but I am

899
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: not taking them fully seriously after what they were not

900
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 2: able to prove against South Dakota. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna

901
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: stay spicy, ty. I'm out on Oregon twenty twenty two

902
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: as a whole your own team, my own team. They

903
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: play maybe the best team in college football. In Week one,

904
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: they got throttled. They did not look good. Bo Nicks

905
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: did not I know, no, did not look good. But

906
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: you're out that quickly. I think they'll win the games.

907
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna go to a bowl. I think

908
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: they're gonna figure out a lot of things. But I

909
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: am always looking, especially with my team, I am always

910
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: looking to say, interesting decision. They probably know something. They

911
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: probably have a plan. They're probably going to figure something out.

912
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: And I thought that about Bonix, who I've been out

913
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: on basically since day one, very open about being out

914
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: on Bonix.

915
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have not been a bow Nick's apologist in

916
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: any sense.

917
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: And then and I think Dan Lanning will do very

918
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: good things in Eugene. My Dan Lanning opinion is unchanged.

919
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: But man, I don't if he wasn't involved in that

920
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: defensive game plan, I think he's going to be involved

921
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: in more game plans moving forward. Okay, George is way better.

922
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: We get all that. And there was a lot of

923
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 2: conversation about it's just different down here. Georgia is you know,

924
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: they're built different and they've had so much time to

925
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: This was a very This is a very talented Oregon roster.

926
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: This is not Georgia beating up on Oregon State. It's

927
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 2: not Georgia beating up on North Carolina. It's not Georgia

928
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: beating up on Rucker. Like, I don't know why I'm

929
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: lumping all those teams together, but you don't you understand

930
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, this is not a roster that

931
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: should lose to anybody by forty six points. Now, it's

932
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: a new coach. I understand things are new, but the

933
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: decision to go after bo Nicks, what if they just

934
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: wanted for Keaton Slovas still probably lose that game by

935
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: thirty five points or something like that, but you there's

936
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: something there. And then seeing his comments afterward, again, I

937
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: think Dan Lane's gonna do good things seeing his comments happen.

938
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: We just need Bonnicks to play within the rhythms of

939
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: the offense. We just need to see that's not who

940
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: bo Nicks has ever been.

941
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: What does that even mean?

942
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: We need bon Like it's just a turnover thing. We

943
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 2: just need when he was doing things that's not who

944
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: he's ever been consistently. You'll get that Arkansas game last year,

945
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: You'll get the you know, Ole miss game, whatever. But

946
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: most of the time bo Nicks is just sort of

947
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: doing his own thing. And so to see that comment

948
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: at like and the backup quarterbacks may be atrocious, and

949
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: I get I understand all that, But to now go

950
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: through a season with this expecting something different in wins

951
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: and losses whatever, I think would be foolish. I'm very

952
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: excited for twenty twenty three.

953
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, talk about punting good lord.

954
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just with how there were certain plays in

955
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 2: that game. When you look back, there were certain plays.

956
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: I should just let you talk. You didn't even need

957
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: me for this. This is true.

958
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: I was texting with our friend Jeff Schwartz and he

959
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: was I mean, you're mister pff. Now you have eighty dollars.

960
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: We're so proud of you. He said, Like justin Flow,

961
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: the starting inside linebacker, five star guy that Georgia definitely

962
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: wanted badly finished with a grade of like twenty three.

963
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: So there are certain things where it's just like he

964
00:50:54,600 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: wasn't prepared to play in that game at all. And

965
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: you see some of the replays about, you know, the

966
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: secondary getting absolutely obliterated in the run game by Georgia receivers.

967
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: He's like, what was the preparation, Like, what was the

968
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: plan here? And I just think it's gonna take time

969
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: to get this team to a place. Again it's Georgia,

970
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: but this is organ has been to two national championships

971
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: in the last twelve years. Oregon's recruited like a top ten,

972
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen program for the past few years under

973
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: Mario Christobal, I haven't found a quarterback. But again, if

974
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say things like I don't see it getting

975
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 2: figured out in season about other teams. I don't see

976
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: it getting fully figured out in season.

977
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: For Oregon, how about them? Yeah, give me that spice.

978
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: I like it.

979
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: That's all. They're gonna win games. They've got Eastern Washington.

980
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be very competitive against Eastern Washington

981
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: this weekend.

982
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: They're gonna win games. They have Eastern Washington.

983
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, BYU Washington, Washington State, UCLA.

984
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: I've got by stay for over Baylor this week. Okay,

985
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: how'd you do in your picks last week?

986
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 2: By the way, terribly, but so terribly in fact, that

987
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: we might be we might be building a new altar

988
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: tie my Purdue lock actually almost happened. We might be

989
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: building a new altar of dan that I could once

990
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: again become the surest thing in college football picking terribly terribly.

991
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was not a banner week for me

992
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: as well. But I feel like I learned some stuff

993
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: and we will talk about what I learned, the lessons learned,

994
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: the important life skills that I think I acquired through

995
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: the first week and a half. I'll call it a

996
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: half week week. Zoo in week one of the twenty

997
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: twenty two college football season, when we do our preview

998
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: show tomorrow, so week two is on the docket. We've

999
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: got our run of show here. We are ready, we

1000
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: are amped, I've got my picks together. I've got a

1001
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: little bit more studying to do, but I feel very confident,

1002
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: confident in how things are going to go here in

1003
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: week two. It is another great week of college football.

1004
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: If there even was a window of opportunity last week,

1005
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: which is very very sketchy at best, there is certainly

1006
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: less of one in week two. I'm really excited for

1007
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: this week ahead, and we're going to talk about as

1008
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: many games as time permits on the show. You hear

1009
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,920
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1018
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1019
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1020
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,160
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1021
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1023
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Speaker 2: To be clear, a thread about games happening during the day,

1025
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: not ESPN show College Game Day.

1026
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: That is correct. Yes, I know, I know I've.

1027
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: Been somewhat negative on this show, ty talking about Nebraska

1028
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 2: and Kansas State, Ole Miss and obviously Oregon. Can I

1029
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: just say something real quick before we sign off. It's

1030
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1031
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Speaker 1: We are the Dukes of jmio. Are you going to

1034
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: get a Todd Scanthio jersey? A number one jersey?

1035
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1036
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: I fully buy any Buddies jersey or I'm gonna have

1037
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,480
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Speaker 2: and details a little bit more closely, but as of

1039
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: this moment, Duke's football let's.

1040
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: Roll, all right, don't forget that. We do a live

1041
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,560
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1042
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:15,040
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1043
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,319
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1044
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,399
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1045
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,680
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1046
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: stage with us. We talk college football. We're going to

1047
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: unpack all things from week one. We're going to preview

1048
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: all things week two. We've got fun games that we

1049
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: will play with the verbulerhood that shows up and wants

1050
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: to participate with us. Last two bullet points before we

1051
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Speaker 1: let you go. We've got a live show in about

1052
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Speaker 1: a month.

1053
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Speaker 2: Man, Oh cannot wait. New York City, New York cannot wait.

1054
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Speaker 2: You can smell ties hair.

1055
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1057
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1058
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Speaker 2: are working out the concept now, but it is another

1059
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Speaker 2: unique concept. Speaking of which, and the way that our

1060
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: Spotify show is, this is gonna be a fun one.

1061
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: I believe it's the night before week six of the season.

1062
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: That's right, and it's the night before a bunch of

1063
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: big games, including Alabama A and m Yeah.

1064
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Speaker 1: Com also applicable in this case and last. But at

1071
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Speaker 1: least he got like three days to sign up to win.

1072
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Speaker 1: If you're watching the video, I've got the Michael Maher

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