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Speaker 3: America's Voice Live starts now. Welcome to America's Voice Live.

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Speaker 3: I'm Terrence Bates. We begin with breaking news as we

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Speaker 3: are just learning that two National Guard soldiers are injured

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Speaker 3: after being shot near the White House. At this point,

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Speaker 3: there's not much information relative to this particular scene situation.

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Speaker 3: Their conditions aren't being released. At this point. All we

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Speaker 3: know is that once again, two National Guard soldiers were

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Speaker 3: shot somewhere in the vicinity of the White House. Emergency

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Speaker 3: Task Forces confirming that they were responding to an incident

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Speaker 3: in the vicinity the White House again involving two National

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Speaker 3: Guard soldiers who were shot there. We will continue to

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Speaker 3: monitor this developing story for you throughout the day here

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Speaker 3: on Real America's Voice, and as we get new information

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Speaker 3: information along to you. Not a great start to this Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: Russia will agree. We'll have expert analysis for you. Also

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Speaker 3: seems to be on everyone's mind during this holiday season.

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Speaker 3: Some experts say that housing is the root cause, though

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Speaker 3: we'll discuss and then later as you begin preparing your

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving meal, Communities across America are participating in community outreach

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Speaker 3: the government programs, but that comes from neighbors who are

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Speaker 3: much more coming your way right now on America's Voice

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Speaker 3: Live with the Thanksgiving holiday upon us. One of the

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Speaker 3: biggest issues on most Americans' minds is affordability. Despite the concerns,

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Speaker 3: President Trump is touting, how much more affordable this Thanksgiving

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Speaker 3: is compared to years past, and.

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Speaker 7: This Thanksgiving, we're also making incredible strides to make America

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Speaker 7: affordable again. Walmart announced that the court of their standard

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Speaker 7: Thanksgiving meal is twenty five percent lower than just one

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Speaker 7: year ago. That's a big deal. According to the USCA

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Speaker 7: of Thanksgiving, Turkey is down thirty three percent from its

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Speaker 7: Bidenira highs, potatoes are down thirteen percent, hammer is down

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Speaker 7: fifteen percent compared to last Thanksgiving, So we are down

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Speaker 7: to a level that we haven't seen in a long time.

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Speaker 7: Egg prices are down eighty six percent since March, and

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Speaker 7: Under our leadership, we passed the largest tax cuts in history,

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Speaker 7: the largest spending cuts in history.

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Speaker 3: Joining me to discuss as political strategist and founder of Valrus,

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Speaker 3: Dwayne McClure. Also joining the conversation economists for the American

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Speaker 3: Institute for Economic Research, Paul Mueller, Gentlemen, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Good to have you this afternoon.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having us, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Paul, want to start with you. You just heard

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Speaker 3: the president's assessment, but are Americans actually feeling this difference.

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Speaker 3: Saying the numbers is one thing, but perception may not

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Speaker 9: I think that's right. You know, President Trump has picked

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Speaker 9: a few items to talk about. You know, the Walmart

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Speaker 9: So part of that lower price is that there's fewer

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Speaker 9: index and shows that prices are actually up a little

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Speaker 9: So it's really a mixed bag. It's not that prices

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Speaker 10: Yes, affordability is first and foremost at everyone's mind, especially

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Speaker 10: as we are in the holiday season. With my team

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Speaker 10: at Vale, we've been conducting a bit of research on

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Speaker 10: people's sentiments towards the affordability. They tend to view right

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Speaker 10: President Trump, however, with relieving a lot of the pressures

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Speaker 10: So I think that very much like mister Mueller was saying,

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Speaker 3: it is a mixed bag, is this a mixed bag

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Speaker 10: No, it's definitely something that can carry over into the

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Speaker 10: mid terms. Fortunately for President Trump and the Republicans, it

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Speaker 10: seems as though the trend is going downward, which is

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Speaker 10: great because this same Thanksgiving meal back in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: Big picture, our American is going to really start to

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Speaker 5: I think it is realistic.

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Speaker 9: So, you know, many of President Trump's agenda items have

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Speaker 8: So those are all good.

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Speaker 9: The tariffs are the big wildcar and have been all year,

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Speaker 3: Gentlemen, we'll have to leave the conversation there. We appreciate

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Speaker 3: you joining us out with your expertise today. Enjoy your Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 3: and hopefully we'll have you back on the air soon.

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Speaker 8: Thanks Hevy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving to both of you. All right, folks, we

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Speaker 3: two National Guardsmen have been shot in the vicinity of

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Speaker 3: what else he can offer to this story. Brian, can

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Karen, how are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm well. I hate to hear this news, particularly on

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Speaker 3: the day before Thanksgiving. What can you add to our reporting?

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Speaker 3: What are you hearing?

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Speaker 6: This is an area very familiar with anyone who travels

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Speaker 6: It's right there in the daytime. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: And Terrence.

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Speaker 6: Just yesterday, I was in the Starbucks that's not far

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Speaker 3: Are you hearing any of those details yet?

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Speaker 6: You know what's interesting, Terrence, anybody that's been to the

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Speaker 3: Brian, I know that area very well as well, and

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Brian. Before I let you go, somewhat of a

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Speaker 6: I haven't seen as of right now any official statement

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Speaker 3: Absolutely our rav White House Chief correspondent or Chief White

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Speaker 3: Once again, folks, just to recap if you're joining us,

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Speaker 3: it is always good to see ya. I was hoping

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Speaker 1: Well, first thing that comes to mind are those two

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Speaker 1: The very first thing that comes from my mind, being

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Context is everything, and as I'm reporting the story,

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Speaker 3: I am also thinking, Lieutenant Colonel West, that we've been

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Speaker 2: So far.

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Speaker 3: Lieutenant Colonel West, she said something just a little while

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Speaker 1: Well, I have not seen their rules of engagement. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I hate to be a negative Nancy, but when I

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Speaker 1: and calm down all of these disparaging means by which

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Speaker 1: people are referring to law enforcement officers and National guardsmen

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Speaker 1: that are out there, and we've seen the tapes of

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Speaker 1: people shouting at them and calling them these very ugly names.

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Speaker 1: These are Americans, Americans that you know are the best

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Speaker 1: amongst us, and we should be thankful that they're out

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Speaker 1: there putting their lives on the line and sacrificing so

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Speaker 1: that you can have the safety and security on American streets.

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Speaker 3: Lieutenant Colonel West, from your lifts to God's ears, hopefully

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Speaker 3: the rhetoric and the temperature comes down a little bit

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Speaker 3: so that all of our law enforcement and soldiers on

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Speaker 3: the streets of our cities are a little safer. We

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Speaker 3: appreciate your time, Lieutenant Colonel Wise. Thank you, happy thanks always,

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Speaker 3: a pleasure, happy thanksgiving to you as well. I'm remiss

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Speaker 3: to say that I apologize. All right, folks, again, you're

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Speaker 3: looking at pictures of Washington d C just in case

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Speaker 3: you're joining us. Just now, two National Guard troops have

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Speaker 3: been shot. We're told that one has been rushed to

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Speaker 3: the hospital. At this point, we don't know the conditions

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Speaker 3: of either of those troops, but one apparently flown to

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Speaker 3: the hospital. We are working to find out the conditions.

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Speaker 3: We're also hearing that a suspect is currently in custody,

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Speaker 3: and we of course will get you more information about

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Speaker 3: all of this as we get it. Now, we want

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Speaker 3: to bring in retired FBI Executive Assistant Director Chris Piota

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Speaker 3: to talk a bit more about this. Chris, good afternoon,

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Speaker 3: can you hear me?

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Speaker 6: I can?

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Good afternoon. So, as a retired FBI agent,

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Speaker 3: how fearful are you that this sort of situation will

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Speaker 3: play itself out in cities across the country where FBI

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Speaker 3: agents are being called on to keep the peace, where

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Speaker 3: other National guardsmen are being called on to keep the peace.

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Speaker 11: Well, I fear for the safety and well being of

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Speaker 11: all of my brothers and sister law enforcement officers, as

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Speaker 11: well as our uniform military person sonel. I think that

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Speaker 11: this is a tactic of intimidation, and if we as

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Speaker 11: a law enforcement community or the National Defense Community Buckle.

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Speaker 11: You'll see this happen more and more, and I think

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Speaker 11: this has to draw a very swift and maybe severe response.

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Speaker 3: Are you expecting that the rules of engagement? And you

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Speaker 3: may have just heard our last guest, Lieutenant Colonel West,

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Speaker 3: talk about rules of engagement? Do you think that this

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Speaker 3: will force clarity if you will, in rules of engagement?

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Speaker 3: And will it ratchet up those rules of engagement that

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Speaker 3: FBI agents other law enforcement will be allowed to use

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Speaker 3: as they descend on various cities across the country.

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Speaker 11: You might see a review of the current rules of engagement.

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Speaker 11: I don't think the government's going to want to escalate

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Speaker 11: potential use of force against a population if this is

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Speaker 11: a you can call a single incident or an isolated incident.

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Speaker 11: But I do think there will be a review and

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Speaker 11: there will be an emphasis place based upon force protection.

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Speaker 11: For our National Guard members are uniformed police officers and

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Speaker 11: law enforcement partners. They already live in this world day

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Speaker 11: to day, so they may just have to tighten up

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Speaker 11: some of their approaches.

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Speaker 3: What is your expectation in terms of how the situation

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Speaker 3: should be handled. I would imagine when you have something

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Speaker 3: like this, all hands have got to be on deck.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, you see on the video it's a law

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Speaker 11: enforcement convention right now. I mean I've seen jackets and

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Speaker 11: patches from every kind of law enforcement organization. What's gonna

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Speaker 11: happen is is all of the senior folks from all

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Speaker 11: the responding and jurisdictional agencies are gonna get together. They're

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Speaker 11: gonna decide how this investigation is going to be framed,

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Speaker 11: and then there's gonna be a lead organization. Then everybody

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Speaker 11: else will move into a support role. They'll coordinate with

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Speaker 11: the National Guard and the Pentagon, and they'll figure out

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Speaker 11: how to look into these individuals, the suspect that's in custody,

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Speaker 11: Are there anybody anyone else involved? Is there any type

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Speaker 11: of networked attack? You know, those type of things are

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Speaker 11: going to be looked at, and you'll see that all

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Speaker 11: of the federal partners will bring in their skills, abilities,

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Speaker 11: and their resources to help with the technical evidence collection,

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Speaker 11: shooting scene reconstruction, things at that sort. So you'll see

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Speaker 11: just a very large joint investigative effort.

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Speaker 3: Okay, stand by, I just want to read this tweet

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Speaker 3: that came out from the Trump administration. It says the

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Speaker 3: animal that shot the two National guardsmen, with both being

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Speaker 3: critically wounded and now in two separate hospitals. Is also

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Speaker 3: severely wounded, but regardless, will pay a very steep price.

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Speaker 3: God bless our great National Guard and all of our

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Speaker 3: military and law enforcement. These are truly great people. I

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Speaker 3: as President of the United States, and everyone associated with

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Speaker 3: the Office of the Presidency and with you, he writes. So, Obviously,

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Speaker 3: as you heard there, President Trump is aware of what's

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Speaker 3: going on. Christynoman is also out with the tweet basically

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Speaker 3: acknowledging what's going on here. Obviously that's important, But I

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Speaker 3: think the bigger story is how do we rebound from this,

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Speaker 3: how do we move forward from this? And what's the

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Speaker 3: best way to at least approach that process from your perspective.

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Speaker 11: Strength and resolve. The people who are trying to intimidate

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Speaker 11: our law enforcement personnel cannot be allowed to do so.

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Speaker 11: Our law enforcement professionals cannot buckle, they cannot retreat. And

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Speaker 11: what we have to do now is figure out better

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Speaker 11: defensive measures for our personnel. And we can't allow people

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Speaker 11: who are going to use violence to cower our law

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Speaker 11: enforcement in our communities to prevail. So I think you'll

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Speaker 11: see some changes in tactics, and you'll see some additional

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Speaker 11: presence when it comes to the protection of our uniform

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Speaker 11: military folks.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, we appreciate you taking some of your

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Speaker 3: time out to talk to us this afternoon, on this

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Speaker 3: day before Thanksgiving. Unfortunately, for at least two families, this

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving won't be quite as sweet as their loved ones

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Speaker 3: are being treated for those gunshot wounds. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for your time.

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Speaker 11: Thank you, sir, and God bless the folks who were victims,

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Speaker 11: and I wish them a speedy recovery.

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Speaker 3: Amen. Absolutely, all right. We now want to bring in

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Speaker 3: turning point, USA White House correspondent Monica Page Monica, Terrence

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Speaker 3: Bates here. Appreciate you taking some time out to talk

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Speaker 3: to us as we continue to look at these pictures

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Speaker 3: of law enforcement really kind of getting together around the

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Speaker 3: White House there near the White House following the shooting

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Speaker 3: of those two National Guard troops. What more can you

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Speaker 3: tell us? What are you hearing from your sources in

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Speaker 3: terms of what may have happened here?

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Speaker 12: Hey, Terrence, I really appreciate you having me on. It's

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Speaker 12: truly terrifying as somebody who's there every single day about

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Speaker 12: five days a week, eight hours a day for the

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Speaker 12: most part, maybe even longer. And to hear that something

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Speaker 12: like this had happened, I mean, it should make everybody concerned.

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Speaker 12: What we hear now is that the White House is

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Speaker 12: on lockdown. There are reporters that are kind of confined

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Speaker 12: to the press briefing room as of right now. There

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Speaker 12: are others who are still behind yellow tape at local

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Speaker 12: coffee shops across the street from the White House who

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Speaker 12: do not have access to the White House. Right now,

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Speaker 12: we know that the area of the location it's all secure.

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Speaker 12: Apparently they have a suspect in custody as well, and

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Speaker 12: I did hear that I believe one or two of

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Speaker 12: those troops were airlifted to the hospital. They had a

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Speaker 12: helicopter and a medvac kind of fly in over the

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Speaker 12: National Mall and kind of try to do our best

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Speaker 12: to make sure that our troops are safe and they're

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Speaker 12: going to survive this. But it's truly terrifying. And from

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Speaker 12: the DC Metro, I mean, it's not just reporters outside

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Speaker 12: the White House or you know, our National Guard troops,

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Speaker 12: but you know, according to the DC Metro that metro

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Speaker 12: stop right near the White House sees over eleven thousand

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Speaker 12: people coming in and around the White House every single day.

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Speaker 12: Those these are also commuters who are entering that station.

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Speaker 12: These are also just everyday people you know in and

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Speaker 12: around the White House. And the President is to make

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Speaker 12: this city safe again. I'm hoping this is some kind

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Speaker 12: of isolated incident, but truly truly terrifying as somebody who's

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Speaker 12: always around there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Monica, we're looking at live pictures of the scene.

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Speaker 3: You know, it looks like lots of office buildings there,

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Speaker 3: there's parks there, restaurants, so one would imagine that there

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Speaker 3: were people around when all of this happened, just out

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Speaker 3: of curiosity, though, really quickly before we move on, where

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Speaker 3: are you right now in relation to where all of

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Speaker 3: this happened.

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Speaker 12: So I'm so luckily I was editor before any of

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Speaker 12: this happened. I was checking in with my team, making

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Speaker 12: sure everybody is good, if nobody needs anything. But I

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Speaker 12: do know people who are trying to get in to

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Speaker 12: do their live hits, to do their reporting just before

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Speaker 12: the holiday weekend, and it's really scary to know that

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Speaker 12: you know, these people can't do their jobs or like

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Speaker 12: they are living in fear of going to work every

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Speaker 12: single time, and this is what this is what their

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Speaker 12: reality is. So I'm glad that I'm not there. I'm

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Speaker 12: glad that I had left even before any of this happened.

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Speaker 12: I'm five months pregnant, so I can't even imagine if

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Speaker 12: this were to happen near me, or if this happened

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Speaker 12: to me, or you know, these are things that you know,

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Speaker 12: these are these are every eight people. This is truly terrifying.

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Speaker 12: I'm hoping that we can get some quick answers as

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Speaker 12: to who this person is and how we go from here.

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Speaker 12: I understand the President also has been briefed on this

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Speaker 12: situation as well, and I'm assuming he's all of this

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Speaker 12: team and staff members have also been briefed, so I'm

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Speaker 12: hoping that everyone's safe now.

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Speaker 3: The President was already out with the tweet on social

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Speaker 3: media letting everyone know that he's been briefed on the

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Speaker 3: situation as well, aware calling the person involved the suspected animal.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious, and you talked about this just a

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Speaker 3: little bit and just want to clarify, so as far

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Speaker 3: as you're hearing, the White House is currently on lockdown,

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Speaker 3: I suspect that that is just standard policy. It's as

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Speaker 3: a precaution, not necessarily because there's a thought that the

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Speaker 3: White House was in some way being targeted. Can you

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Speaker 3: clear that up for us?

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Speaker 12: Yes, So when any sort of suspicious, suspicious package is

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Speaker 12: found on the premises in and around the White House,

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Speaker 12: even in the park and across the street Lafayette Park

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Speaker 12: across from the White House, even if they find any

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Speaker 12: kind of suspicious person or package, they got to clear

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Speaker 12: out the entire area, and reporters do have to get

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Speaker 12: on lockdown. This is not the first time that I've

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Speaker 12: heard of reporters having to be on lockdown, unfortunately. But

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Speaker 12: you know, in this climate that we're in right now,

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Speaker 12: especially with the president that we have and the kind

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Speaker 12: of people that are spewing this kind of rhetoric, unfortunately,

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Speaker 12: this has opened up to so much more danger and

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Speaker 12: you never know who's outside the White House as well.

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Speaker 12: I was talking with my team and just yesterday as

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Speaker 12: I was leaving the White House, there was this random

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Speaker 12: woman with a professional camera zooming in and focusing on

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Speaker 12: all of us leaving the White House, and It's like,

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Speaker 12: who are these people? You never truly know you know

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Speaker 12: who is in and around the area, especially in such

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Speaker 12: a secure place. But you know, this is concerning, this

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Speaker 12: should concern everybody.

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Speaker 3: Sure, during times like this, I think sometimes it's also

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Speaker 3: important to kind of take a step back. Would you

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Speaker 3: put into perspective for us, how Washington, d C. Has

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Speaker 3: changed over the last several months since these National Guard

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Speaker 3: troops have been deployed there. President Trump often touts how

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Speaker 3: much the city has changed. From your perspective as someone

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Speaker 3: who spends day in and day out there in the

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Speaker 3: nation's capital, how have you seen DC change?

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Speaker 12: Oh, It's changed dramatically, night and day difference. It's refreshing

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Speaker 12: to see the National Guard troops that are in and

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Speaker 12: around the Metro. Every time I see them there, I

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Speaker 12: always make sure to take some time out to thank

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Speaker 12: them for being there and keeping us safe. Unfortunately, this incident,

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Speaker 12: you know, may not convince many people that DC is safe.

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Speaker 12: But from what I have seen over the past few months,

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Speaker 12: since the President has tried and established a safe for DC,

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Speaker 12: I can tell you with full confidence that I I've

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Speaker 12: never felt safe for riding the Metro, about myself going

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Speaker 12: to and from work, going to and from you know,

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Speaker 12: food shopping or whatever I need to do, and I've

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Speaker 12: felt very good so this incident. You know, I'm hoping

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Speaker 12: this is just a one off, but like I said,

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Speaker 12: you just never know who's out there around the White House.

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Speaker 12: I know the President has done such a fantastic job

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Speaker 12: and making this city safe and clean, and I know

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Speaker 12: his team has done a fantastic job as well. So

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Speaker 12: my prayers and my heart go out to these National

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Speaker 12: Guard troops and their families, especially right before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I join you in those prayers. And as you said,

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Speaker 3: I hope this is a one off and that the

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Speaker 3: two troops who were injured in all of this do

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Speaker 3: recover fully. I'm curious in your interactions with these National

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Speaker 3: Guard troops as you see them going and coming across

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Speaker 3: the city, are you able to kind of quantify how

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Speaker 3: many of them are armed and how many of them

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Speaker 3: are unarmed. Is it common to see these Guard troops

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Speaker 3: who are posted across the city with firearms or is

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Speaker 3: they more of a you know, are fewer of them armed.

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Speaker 12: Every time I've seen the National Guard troops, whether it's

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Speaker 12: in the metro system or if it's in you know,

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Speaker 12: one of the local parks around just kind of patrolling

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Speaker 12: the area, They've always been armed in some way shape

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Speaker 12: or form, and I don't know, I personally feel safe

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Speaker 12: when I see that. I feel great when I see that.

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Speaker 12: There always seem to be in good spirits, which is

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Speaker 12: also really refreshing. Every time I say thank you, they

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Speaker 12: always give a smile and they thank me back. So,

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Speaker 12: you know, God bless these troops. You know, they're really

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Speaker 12: risking their lives every single day to be in the

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Speaker 12: face of danger, to be putting themselves out into the unknown,

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Speaker 12: not only in DC but in also other cities as well,

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Speaker 12: and it's really disheartening when I see the violence against them,

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Speaker 12: whether it's just rhetoric or even the actions, especially what

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Speaker 12: we've seen today, because these people are risking their lives.

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Speaker 12: People have families, and they're just trying to do the

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Speaker 12: right thing, and that's what really hurts the most. So

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Speaker 12: they're always armed, they're always seems to be in good spirits,

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Speaker 12: and I hope that that continues given this situation.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you again so much for just dropping everything

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Speaker 3: that you are doing in joining us to give us

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Speaker 3: your perspective on what's happening there. We hope that you

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Speaker 3: enjoy your Thanksgiving and thanks again for being here with

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Speaker 3: us this afternoon.

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Speaker 12: Thank you Terrence. Good bless and Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Bless you as well. Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.

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Speaker 3: All Right, folks, we're going to continue our coverage if

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Speaker 3: you're just joining us. Two National Guard troops have been

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Speaker 3: shot near the White House there in the vicinity. We're

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Speaker 3: told that one of them has been airlifted to a

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Speaker 3: nearby hospital, the other also being treated. At this point,

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Speaker 3: there's no information specific to their conditions. We also do know, though,

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Speaker 3: that a suspect is in custody. The motivation behind this

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Speaker 3: attack and all of that is still being worked out,

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Speaker 3: and we're continuing to work our sources to try to

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Speaker 3: get you as much updated information as possible. Joining the

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Speaker 3: conversation now is former Secret Service member and former FBI

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Speaker 3: special agent Jonathan Gilliam, also a friend of the show. Jonathan,

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Speaker 3: good to see you. I hate that it's under these circumstances.

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Speaker 3: All right, sounds like we don't have Jonathan. Jack Basovik

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Speaker 3: is available, though he is going to join us now. Jack,

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Speaker 3: good to see you as well. Similar to what I

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Speaker 3: was saying about Jonathan, I hate that it's under these circumstances.

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Speaker 3: What can you tell us at this point? What do

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Speaker 3: you have to add to this conversation as we're again

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Speaker 3: getting more information about these two National guardsmen who were

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Speaker 3: shot near the White House. Both of them are said

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Speaker 3: to be treated at the hospital.

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Speaker 4: Well, Terren's absolutely horrific that this took place, and yet

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Speaker 4: it's yet once more again a string of violence that

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Speaker 4: we've seen take place this year, a string of violence

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Speaker 4: where unfortunately it seems to be targeted, and typically we've

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Speaker 4: seen in these cases that they have political motives. You

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Speaker 4: go back to the assassination of President Trump, you look

739
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Speaker 4: at Luigi Maggioni, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and so

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Speaker 4: many more acts, school shootings, the killing of the Israeli

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Speaker 4: embassy officials just a few months ago in Washington, DC

742
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Speaker 4: as well, and unfortunately, the violence now seems to continue.

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Speaker 4: We're told, of course, that one suspect is in custody,

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Speaker 4: where President Trump had put out that both guardsmen are

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Speaker 4: in critical condition, and certainly we continue to pray for them.

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Speaker 4: I did get a chance to speak with some members

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Speaker 4: of the White House staff, and fortunately we're told that

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Speaker 4: many members of the staff who work right there in

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Speaker 4: that EEO B, the Eisenhower Executive Office building, which is

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Speaker 4: just steps away from where this shooting take place. Many

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Speaker 4: of the staff had actually gone home already for the

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving break. We know, of course, Vice President Vance is

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Speaker 4: down in Kentucky for Campbell Present with his wife Usha.

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Speaker 4: President Trump and Milania had headed down already to.

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Speaker 8: Mar A Lago.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of the staff of the White House

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Speaker 4: that you would see on a regular day that goes

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Speaker 4: by this Farragut Square terance.

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Speaker 8: This is a main thoroughfare.

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Speaker 4: This is a place where you can see a lot

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Speaker 4: of staffers, a lot of people who work in the

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Speaker 4: White House when they're going for lunch, break, when they're

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Speaker 4: leaving work, et cetera.

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Speaker 8: This is a place where they are very frequently.

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Speaker 4: Look at me, I walk down there when I'm going

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Speaker 4: into the White House, you know, depending on you know,

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Speaker 4: where I park the car or where I'm coming from.

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Speaker 4: So this is a place that's very very close to

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Speaker 4: the White House, and had it not been the day

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Speaker 4: before Thanksgiving, you could have potentially had White House staffers there.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Jack, I hate to be the negative person, but

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Speaker 3: I also have to be a realist. And one of

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Speaker 3: the questions that comes to my mind is whether this

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Speaker 3: will embolden people in other cities where we've got you know,

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Speaker 3: federal agents, we've got other law enforcement as well as

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Speaker 3: National guardsmen position in order to try to keep the peace.

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Speaker 3: Is that a concern to you? Am I off base here?

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Speaker 8: No, you're not off base at all.

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately you're correct, this is something that could spark copycats.

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Speaker 8: One thing that we see with.

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Speaker 4: Violence going all the way back to the first, you know,

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Speaker 4: sort of modern school shooting in Columbine is the threat

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Speaker 4: of copycat violence, and violence does tend to beget violence.

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Speaker 4: People believe that they can become immortalized, that they can

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Speaker 4: become famous, that they can gain notoriety for committing these

786
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Speaker 4: acts political acts of violence. And so we've also been

787
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Speaker 4: in a situation where, similar to Charlie Kirk, where Charlie

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Speaker 4: Kirk's assassin had those bullets printed hey fascist, catch or

789
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Speaker 4: belichow the Antifa anthem printed on them, etched on them.

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Speaker 4: We know that that the mainstream media, the Democrats, and

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Speaker 4: the left were constantly demonizing Charlie Kirk as a fascist,

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Speaker 4: as someone who is evil, as someone who is anti trans,

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Speaker 4: as someone who needed to be shut down. You pair

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Speaker 4: that up with Tyler Robinson's statement that we need to

795
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Speaker 4: end the hate. Well, what have we also seen happen

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Speaker 4: over just the last few weeks, the demonization of our

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Speaker 4: National guardsmen, the demonization of ICE, the demonization of federal

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Speaker 4: law enforcement in city after city. They talk about it

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Speaker 4: as if President Trump is launching an invasion of these cities,

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Speaker 4: when he's just sending National guardsmen. By the way, many

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Speaker 4: of the National Guardsmen in these areas are drawn up

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Speaker 4: from those states themselves.

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Speaker 8: It's where they live. They're the local units.

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Speaker 4: So these are people that typically live in these areas themselves.

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Speaker 4: So it's not like it's some kind of invasion force.

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Speaker 4: It's actually a defense of people who live in the neighborhood,

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Speaker 4: live in the state, live in the area. And when

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Speaker 4: Mayor ech Mandami was in the Oval office and I

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Speaker 4: was there, I guess that was last Friday, they asked him,

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Speaker 4: do you feel that New York is that threat of

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Speaker 4: ICE agents coming in? So once again, federal law enforcement

812
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Speaker 4: in this country is getting a target painted on their

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Speaker 4: back by the mainstream media, by elements of the left

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Speaker 4: and so many others. And unfortunately, it seems in this case,

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Speaker 4: and of course it remains to be seen, but it

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Speaker 4: seems in this case that these two were targeted specifically

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Speaker 4: because of the uniforms that they wear, and you can't

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Speaker 4: take it out of that context.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Jack, we've been talking about rules of engagement and

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Speaker 3: this is something that I'm very interested and I'm hoping

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Speaker 3: that you can offer some more perspective on what the

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Speaker 3: rules of engagement are for the National guardsmen who were

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Speaker 3: deployed in the nation's capital. Can you shed some light

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Speaker 3: on that if you will.

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Speaker 4: Well, so, you know, speaking of someone who is a

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Speaker 4: prior military officer, you know, when you talk about rules

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Speaker 4: of engagement, of course, there's such a thing as escalation

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Speaker 4: of force.

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Speaker 8: That's when you're being challenged.

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Speaker 4: So I don't we have to get the actual details

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Speaker 4: of what happened in this iteration here. The story that

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Speaker 4: I heard just in passing, and so you know, caveat

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Speaker 4: on that. But the story that I heard briefly was

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Speaker 4: that someone walked up and pulled a gun out and

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Speaker 4: fired point blank. And in that case there may not

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Speaker 4: have even been a chance for the guardsmen to be

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Speaker 4: able to react. But in any case, self defense is

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Speaker 4: always authorized. So if they were armed and not all

839
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Speaker 4: of the National Guardsmen that have been going around DC

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Speaker 4: have been armed, that's just a fact similar to what

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Speaker 4: we saw in January sixth. Some are armed, some or not.

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Speaker 4: The National Guardsmen on January sixth were not armed. But

843
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Speaker 4: then the National Guardsmen that were deployed to Biden's inauguration

844
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Speaker 4: and spent several weeks I think about eight weeks deployed

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Speaker 4: in Washington, DC around that time period were mostly armed.

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Speaker 4: And so self defense is always authorized. So the idea

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Speaker 4: that someone can pull out a gun and fire upon

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Speaker 4: a National Guardsman member of law enforcement, that becomes a

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Speaker 4: self defense situation, and self defense is always authorized.

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Speaker 8: That's beyond the rules of engagement.

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Speaker 4: That's just basic self preservation, which by the way, is

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Speaker 4: something that you and I would have under the Second Amendment,

853
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Speaker 4: something that anyone would have because of the protection of

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Speaker 4: your own life or the lives of others.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's just a basic right you mentioned earlier, and

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Speaker 3: I think you made a critical point that the rhetoric

857
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Speaker 3: has been such in this country, the political rhetoric that

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Speaker 3: it's encouraging people to target local law enforcement and otherwise,

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Speaker 3: what needs to happen in order to try to bring

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Speaker 3: down the temperature? Does Congress do lawmakers need to be

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Speaker 3: sanctioned when they say things that are just so outrageous

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Speaker 3: and that would encourage someone to potentially do something heinous

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Speaker 3: like what we're seeing now.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, Terrence, you know, we absolutely need to get

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Speaker 4: to the bottom of what exactly happened here, Who this

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Speaker 4: suspect or if there are other suspects involved, what was

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Speaker 4: their motivation which drove them to commit this horrible act.

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Speaker 4: But certainly there's no question that the rhetoric needs to

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Speaker 4: be toned down. And you saw this video, the seditious

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Speaker 4: six that the President of the United States has been

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Speaker 4: targeting and criticizing.

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Speaker 8: We're now seeing Secretary or Senator.

873
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Speaker 4: Kelly under investigation as a retired member of the Armed

874
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Speaker 4: Forces because of his comments claiming that the president had

875
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Speaker 4: ordered the armed forces of the United States to conduct

876
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: illegal orders and making it out as though there was

877
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Speaker 4: some sort of autocratic despot who has taken over the

878
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 4: White House and is ordering the military to conduct illegal acts. Again,

879
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 4: these National guardsmen, I see them around. I see them

880
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 4: around Farragut Square. I see them around Lafayet's where they're

881
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: usually just talking to people as they come by. They're

882
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 4: keeping an eye on things, They're making sure that everything

883
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Speaker 4: is fine. You see them on the National Mall as well.

884
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 4: They're certainly presenting no threat to anyone. But again, if

885
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Speaker 4: you have this gin up rhetoric from the mainstream media,

886
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 4: the gin up rhetoric from Secretary Senator Kelly and so

887
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: many others, then it puts a bullseye right on the

888
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Speaker 4: back of the National Guardsman, the same way they put

889
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Speaker 4: a bullseye on Charlie Kirk because of their rhetoric.

890
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Speaker 8: And it's something that absolutely needs to be responded to.

891
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Speaker 4: And we were told, Terrence, we were told in the

892
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Speaker 4: wake of Charlie Kirk's murder that the rhetoric would be

893
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Speaker 4: toned down.

894
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Speaker 8: I think that lasted about a day.

895
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Speaker 3: Let's hope that the rhetoric rhetoric continues to be toned down. Jack,

896
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Speaker 3: we appreciate you. Want to go to jd Vance, the

897
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Speaker 3: Vice President. He is speaking right now.

898
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Speaker 13: Let's listen to what he has to say.

899
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Speaker 14: Well, it is great to be here in beautiful Fort.

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Speaker 5: Campbell, Kentucky. And let me just.

901
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Speaker 14: Say I want to say first before we get started

902
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Speaker 14: on a somber note, we had and some of you

903
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 14: may have seen this on your phones or on social media,

904
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Speaker 14: but apparently there was a shooting outside the White House

905
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Speaker 14: just a couple of hours ago, and we're still learning everything.

906
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Speaker 5: We still don't know the motive. There's a lot that

907
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Speaker 5: we haven't yet figured out.

908
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Speaker 14: But what we do know is that a couple of

909
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Speaker 14: National Guardsmen were injured in the line of duty. And

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Speaker 14: first of all, I want everybody who's a person of

911
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Speaker 14: faith to say a prayer for those two National guardsmen

912
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Speaker 14: that they're able to spend Thanksgiving with their families instead

913
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Speaker 14: of losing their lives, because I understand they're still in

914
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Speaker 14: pretty tough condition. But I think it's a samba reminder

915
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Speaker 14: that soldiers, whether they're active duty, reserve or National Guard,

916
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Speaker 14: our soldiers are the sword and the shield of the

917
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Speaker 14: United States of America. And as a person who goes

918
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Speaker 14: into work every single day and that building and knows

919
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Speaker 14: that there are a lot of people who wear the

920
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Speaker 14: uniform of the United States Army, let me just say

921
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Speaker 14: very personally, thank them for what they're doing.

922
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Speaker 5: We're grateful to them, and we're praying that they're.

923
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Speaker 14: Going to be safe and they're going to spend Thanksgiving

924
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Speaker 14: with their families.

925
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Speaker 5: God bless them.

926
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Speaker 14: Now I'm going to talk a little bit about the

927
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Speaker 14: business of the Army and about what you're doing, and

928
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Speaker 14: about why it's important to the United States of America

929
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Speaker 14: and why we are proud of you, every single one

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Speaker 14: of our soldiers here in Fort Campbell and all across

931
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Speaker 14: the world. We have got some incredible guests here here

932
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Speaker 14: to honor this moment, to honor you, to say thanks

933
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Speaker 14: to so many of you for spending time away from

934
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Speaker 14: your families here this day before Thanksgiving. And I want

935
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Speaker 14: to give just a few shout outs to some of

936
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Speaker 14: our special guests before we get started. First of all,

937
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Speaker 14: to General Travis McIntosh and Command Sergeant Major Charles Walker,

938
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Speaker 14: Thank you guys for leading this incredible facility, and thank

939
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Speaker 14: you for serving in the United States Army and making

940
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Speaker 14: us proud. Where are you, guys, please stand up and

941
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Speaker 14: be recognized.

942
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Speaker 5: Thank you all.

943
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Speaker 14: We've got my dear friend, Senator Marsha Blackburn, Marsha, please

944
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Speaker 14: stand up and say hello. And we also have Congressman Rose.

945
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Speaker 14: Where is Congressman Rose? Please stand up? Thank you, Congressman.

946
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Speaker 14: It's good to say you.

947
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Speaker 5: Now.

948
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Speaker 14: I've got to, of course, thank my dear friend Bob Ritchie.

949
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Speaker 5: You better know him as Kid Rock.

950
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Speaker 14: But I want to say to my staff I gave

951
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Speaker 14: them one instruction, and that's that I don't have to

952
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Speaker 14: follow a literal rock star before I give a speech,

953
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Speaker 14: and they screwed that up the day before Thanksgiving.

954
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Speaker 5: So every single one of them are fired.

955
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Speaker 14: But thank you to Bob Ritchie Kid Rock, because he's

956
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Speaker 14: not just a great musician, he's.

957
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Speaker 5: Not just a great American. He is a person who

958
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Speaker 5: loves the soldiers of the United States Army.

959
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Speaker 14: And we are proud and grateful for Kid Rock for

960
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 14: being here today. I want to take another few moments

961
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Speaker 14: and just say thanks to Major Josh Wilcox, Master Sergeant

962
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Speaker 14: Aaron duhat Check, Mister Jim Parks, Major Rob Wright, and

963
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Speaker 14: every single soldier who made it possible for.

964
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Speaker 5: Me to come and visit. Now.

965
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Speaker 14: I won't say that the weather is cooperating because it's

966
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Speaker 14: windy as.

967
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Speaker 5: Hell and it is cold. Man, it is cold up here.

968
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Speaker 14: My staff told me to wear a jacket and I said, now,

969
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Speaker 14: just be fine.

970
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Speaker 5: And here I am two minutes in wishing.

971
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Speaker 14: That I had listened because it is really freezing cold

972
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Speaker 14: up here.

973
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Speaker 5: But we're gonna we're gonna have a little fun.

974
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Speaker 3: So you've been listening to Vice President jd Vance, He

975
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Speaker 3: of course came out. He's at Fort Campbell in Kentucky

976
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Speaker 3: set to meet with troops before Thanksgiving, but also acknowledging

977
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Speaker 3: the shootings of two National Guard troops in Washington, d C.

978
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Speaker 3: We now have an update. We are hearing that the

979
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Speaker 3: two troops are West Virginia National Guard members, and both

980
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Speaker 3: of them have now reportedly passed away from their injuries

981
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Speaker 3: sustained as they were shot right outside the White House

982
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Speaker 3: or near the White House. Eric Bowling joining us now

983
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Speaker 3: with his thoughts on all of what has happened. Eric,

984
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Speaker 3: welcome to the show again. I hate that it's under

985
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: these circumstances. Your initial gut thought, your initial thoughts on

986
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Speaker 3: all of this, Eric, As we're now learning that these

987
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Speaker 3: two West Virginia National Guard members have died after being

988
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Speaker 3: shot near the White House.

989
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Speaker 2: You know, Terrence, you're breaking the news here.

990
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 15: I've been scouring the internet looking for exactly you know,

991
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 15: very strange. President Trump called him critically wounded, and Jade

992
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 15: Vance just said, let's hope these two guardsmen are going

993
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Speaker 15: to be able to spend Thanksgiving tomorrow with their families.

994
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Speaker 15: I'm just kind of shocked to hear that they passed.

995
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Speaker 15: I mean, yeah, wow, yeah, I don't know what to say.

996
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 15: I will tell you the violence against law enforcement is real,

997
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 15: and it really kind of lays into why we need

998
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 15: to I think Mark Kelly and I think the Sedition six,

999
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 15: those six military people who said, disobey your military orders.

1000
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Speaker 15: You're superiors if you don't believe in what they're telling

1001
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 15: me to do. It just creates the wrong atmosphere, the

1002
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 15: wrong narrative for people who already have a thing.

1003
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Speaker 2: They got Trump arrangement syndrome.

1004
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 15: They don't like what Trump's doing, and it just kind

1005
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Speaker 15: of opens the door for more violence. And you know,

1006
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Speaker 15: it's not liberals.

1007
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 2: It's not Democrats who are being shot.

1008
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 15: It's law enforcements, ice, it's attempted assassinations of Donald Trump.

1009
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Speaker 2: It's Charlie Kirkatting assassinated.

1010
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 15: So the heightened rider the left will tell you, oh,

1011
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 15: it's not us, it's them. It's MAGA, it's maga extremists, BS,

1012
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 15: it's all liberal, it's all progressive. Now, I'm not jumping

1013
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 15: to a conclusion that we know who the shooter is

1014
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 15: or what the motives were for what this person did,

1015
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Speaker 15: but I will tell you it is pretty apparent I've

1016
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Speaker 15: been doing this a long time that there's one side

1017
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Speaker 15: that's getting the business end of the gun and another

1018
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Speaker 15: side who's using the hand end of the guns across

1019
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 15: America right now. Wow, I'm just kind of shocked, Terrence.

1020
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Speaker 15: I apologize because I don't even have to say. I

1021
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Speaker 15: don't think President Trump was even expecting to hear what

1022
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Speaker 15: you just reported.

1023
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Speaker 2: And I certainly know JD.

1024
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Speaker 15: Vance wasn't two minutes ago, three minutes ago when he

1025
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Speaker 15: walked on stage and wished them well and hopeful hopefully

1026
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Speaker 15: they would spend Thanks saving with their families.

1027
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I have to say I was shocked as

1028
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Speaker 3: well that update that I just shared coming from the

1029
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Speaker 3: Associated Press, which one can question it's sourcing, but in

1030
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Speaker 3: general I think it can be fairly accurate. And I

1031
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Speaker 3: do believe that this is an accurate report from the

1032
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Speaker 3: Associated Press, once again confirming that the two West Virginia

1033
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Speaker 3: National guardsmen, which again is new information as well, that

1034
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Speaker 3: they did both pass away from their injuries near the

1035
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Speaker 3: White House. In fact, West Virginia's governor also confirming that

1036
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Speaker 3: so just a sad state of affairs when when this

1037
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Speaker 3: sort of thing happens, and when we've been talking about it,

1038
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Speaker 3: and again you don't want a second guest. There's still

1039
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Speaker 3: information coming in. We don't really know what motivated all

1040
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Speaker 3: of this, but you mentioned it, and I think it's

1041
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Speaker 3: a great point. When you've got lawmakers making videos telling

1042
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Speaker 3: our troops to disregard President Trump's order, saying that the

1043
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Speaker 3: orders are illegal, and those sorts of things, it creates

1044
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Speaker 3: an environment that potentially can also put our lawmakers and

1045
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Speaker 3: our law enforcement in harm's way. And this very well

1046
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Speaker 3: may be a result of that. Again, we don't know

1047
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Speaker 3: that for sure, but it absolutely creates an environment. I

1048
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Speaker 3: think that's pretty clear.

1049
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Speaker 2: Eric, Yeah, is there.

1050
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Speaker 15: It's it's uh, it's watered, it's fed, it's it's propped up,

1051
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Speaker 15: and always on the left, always on the left. Can

1052
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Speaker 15: you imagine what with these six So I'm sure they

1053
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Speaker 15: didn't have any idea there would be a shooting within

1054
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Speaker 15: days of them putting out the video of suggesting that

1055
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Speaker 15: military people disobey their orders if they don't believe what

1056
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Speaker 15: they're giving, what they're being them.

1057
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Speaker 2: But they've been given.

1058
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Speaker 15: But this is what happens when you heighten the rhetoric,

1059
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Speaker 15: when you ratchet up the rhetoric, and then bad things happen.

1060
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Speaker 15: You can't turn around and say we had nothing to

1061
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Speaker 15: do with it. It's the same thing with Charlie Kirk.

1062
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Speaker 15: Charlie Kirk, it's assassinated by a what they call a furry,

1063
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Speaker 15: someone who likes to dress in weird animal type things

1064
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Speaker 15: and do weird things. He was a his boyfriend was

1065
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Speaker 15: a pro was a transgender person. Not sure which way

1066
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Speaker 15: that goes, boy to girl, girl girl the boy, but

1067
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Speaker 15: you know, and then and then they say, you know,

1068
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Speaker 15: they pointed Trump and they say we're fascists. They say

1069
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Speaker 15: mag Is, Nazis and Hitler youth and white nationalists and

1070
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Speaker 15: white supremacists and Charlie kirktt's asassinated and they go, oh,

1071
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Speaker 15: we had nothing to do with it. Maybe it was Maga.

1072
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Speaker 15: Of course that's not the case. Of course, it's your rhetoric.

1073
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Speaker 15: You're heightened rhetoric. You're pointing to constantly pointing the finger

1074
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Speaker 15: at the right, calling us things names of historically horror,

1075
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Speaker 15: horrendous people.

1076
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Speaker 2: You're gonna get people that act out on this stuff.

1077
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Speaker 15: I mean, I'm just in shock right now that these

1078
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Speaker 15: guys passed away. Unfortunately, there's an original reporting that the

1079
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Speaker 15: third person was shot. I'm not sure that has materialized

1080
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Speaker 15: or not, but I mean, Terrence is just amazing that

1081
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Speaker 15: the President tweets literally twenty five minutes ago, wishing them well,

1082
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Speaker 15: We'll take down the animal that did this, and then

1083
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Speaker 15: jad Vance walks out on stage to a military gathering

1084
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Speaker 15: and says, let's hope they spend Thanksgiving with their loved ones.

1085
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Speaker 2: Wow.

1086
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Speaker 3: Absolutely shock Erica. We also have this tweet just in

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Speaker 3: from West Virginia's governor. I'm gonna read this and give

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Speaker 3: you a a couple of minutes to kind of collect yourself,

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Speaker 3: because it is a shock to all of us. Patrick Morrissey,

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Speaker 3: the governor West Virginia, writing, it's with great sorrow that

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Speaker 3: we can confirm both members of the West Virginia National

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Speaker 3: Guard who were shot earlier today in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 3: Have passed away from their injuries. These brave West Virginians

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Speaker 3: lost their lives in the service of their country. We

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Speaker 3: are in ongoing contact with federal officials as the investigation continues.

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Speaker 3: So again confirmation there again that the two National guardsmen

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Speaker 3: who were shot in Washington, DC in fact were West

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Speaker 3: Virginia National Guardsmen, and unfortunately both of them now have

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Speaker 3: succumbed to their injuries and the investigation is ongoing. We

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Speaker 3: do know that a suspect is in custody right now.

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Speaker 3: We don't know if other suspects are being sought in

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Speaker 3: all of this. But again, we can now confirm that

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Speaker 3: the two National guardsmen who were shot there in Washington,

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Speaker 3: d C. Were West Virginia National Guardsmen. Both of them

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Speaker 3: now have succumbed to their injuries, so we've got the

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Speaker 3: confirmation there. You have the last word, sir.

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Speaker 15: The only last word is horrendous, just just horrendous news,

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Speaker 15: especially for those families of those two guardsmen who have

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Speaker 15: now perished the day before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: It's just incredible.

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Speaker 15: That empty seed, I know it very well, in that

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Speaker 15: empty seed at Thanksgiving heartbreaking. It's going to be heartbreaking

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Speaker 15: for them. I'm just thrilled that we have.

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Speaker 2: The murderer. We have them in custody.

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Speaker 15: They have them in custody, and he's alive, and he'll

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Speaker 15: we'll find out what the motive was, you know, we'll

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Speaker 15: find out.

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Speaker 2: They'll do the usual investigation.

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Speaker 15: FBI will get involved, find out through scour through his

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Speaker 15: social media, find out if he has any sort of manifesto,

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Speaker 15: find out what inspired him, because there is an inspiration there.

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Speaker 15: You don't just lose your mind one day and start

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Speaker 15: killing people. You have an inspiration, maybe misguided, but we'll

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Speaker 15: find out what it was. And you know, God help

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Speaker 15: those seditious six if he had any if they have

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Speaker 15: there's any sort of hat tip towards what they said, but.

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Speaker 2: Again, that would be speculative.

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Speaker 3: We don't want to do that, so agreed, Eric, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to speculate, but I will say this kind

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Speaker 3: of as we transition into your show. Isn't it that

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Speaker 3: much more unsettling that we don't have the answers at

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Speaker 3: the moment, that all we can do is speculate and

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Speaker 3: wonder what led to this, particularly when you know that

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Speaker 3: there are other law enforcement and other national guardsmen who

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Speaker 3: were deployed across this country simply to do their job

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Speaker 3: and to make sure that people are safer in their cities.

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Speaker 3: And when you don't know what may have motivated this,

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Speaker 3: you wonder and you are concerned for the safety of

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Speaker 3: those others. That's what comes to my mind.

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Speaker 15: Indeed, Indeed, and if I misspoke by saying misguided, I

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Speaker 15: mean misguided the guy this person, I've assume it's a man.

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Speaker 15: I have no idea if man woman whatever, what they identify,

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Speaker 15: it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: This this animal.

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Speaker 15: As Trump points out as accurately as possible, this animal

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Speaker 15: was inspired by something.

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Speaker 2: We just we will find out what the inspiration was

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Speaker 2: for this and go after it and go weed it out,

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Speaker 2: root it out, find out where this evil