1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast has a deep respect for 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: mail Man. Welcome back to another additionally Around the League podcast. 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hands, and I'm joined by a 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and Greg Rosenthal. 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: What up, Baus? What was that you stole my? Hey? Dan? 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Hey Dan? Oh that is a weird way to start 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, right off the bat a Bunsen Burner. Well, 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: I know that there there's a conscientist he a competitive 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: nature to this particular Friday program, and I'm just putting 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: my game face on, trying to get Westley in off 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: his game. That's his opener. Is like a little red 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: in the face about this. Greg started mind games. It 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: was sort of mocking west in a way more than 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: competing with him. It was an impression. That's all right, 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Unlike most players, I'm better when I'm mad. Oh, well, 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: that was This is all an illusion, Gregg said, that's 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: a day of competition. We're bringing back the award winning 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: series that has not won any awards actually or been 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: nominated for an award, but that hypothetically could happen down 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: the line. Are somewhat well known game Go get my luge, 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: Go get my Award the last part of both of those. Ah, 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: thank you, Greg. So we're gonna play that game and 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a special draft edition where we're gonna 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: get into some predictions and then try to go to 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: each other into some sandwich wagers. Uh and Mark, thank 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: you very much. We spoke about it on Wednesday's podcast 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: that we didn't really want to move forward with Go 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: get My Sandwich until you paid up your sandwiches. And 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: you did it, and you did it in spades on 30 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon and style great sandwiches from Eastboro in downtown 31 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: Culver City, Delicious, elaborate, high octane sandwich contraptions. Vietnamese sandwich 32 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: is correct action. How much did that set you back? 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: By the way, that's not important. They were pricey as 34 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: sandwiches go. They were high acting. I never actually laid 35 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: eyes on what they looked like in the flesh. I 36 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: mean I only saw them wrapped in paper, because you 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: don't like flesh. It's literally you don't even like see. 38 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: He wasn't even like calling him sandwich as he called 39 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: them contraptions on the last podcast. But thank you. If 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: you are a man of your word, Lanister always pays 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: his debts. They say on Game of Throws, a Sessler 42 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: always pays. So we're back at zero. No one owes 43 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: anyone a sandwich at this point. Well, technically I think 44 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: I might owe Greg one. Oh so you have not 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: paid up yet. Yeah, so it's a good thing that 46 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: it was. Wait, I timely got mine out of the way. 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: You actually still actually actually went above and beyond and 48 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: bought an extra standards. You pretty much paid Dann debt 49 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: for him. Well, that covers bar tabs over the years. 50 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: I think we're I think we're all that is fair. Um. No, 51 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: I thought I said that I would get your sandwich, 52 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: and then you said, don't worry about it. I remember 53 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: this is being said, all right, how about this. By 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: the time this podcast is heard by the listeners, I 55 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: will butt you lunch today. Okay, so we'll see. Oh 56 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: we're settled. Okay, Okay. See, it's very complicated game on 57 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: some level. We're gonna get into the game. But before 58 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: we do that, as we always do, there's a lot 59 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: of kind of news out there. The draft is now 60 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: what six days away, So we turned to the gold standard, 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: the man behind the glass. How you doing, buddy, Happy Friday? 62 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: You know, uh Friday was happy for you. Last week 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: you you had the phone call of the woman expecting another. Today, 64 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: there will be no no call coming your way today. 65 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: So stay on your toe. Is basically, hey, let's do 66 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: some news. Let's do it. Houston Texans general manager Ricks 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Smith had his pre draft press conferences. That's going on 68 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: all over the league right now. Front offices are are 69 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: sitting in front of reporters and telling them nothing. But 70 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, we all do this anyway because it's part 71 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: of the machine that we are part of. And Rick 72 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: Smith said on Thursday that we are quote obviously open 73 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: to moving out of the first pick. I wish you 74 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: weren't a liar. I don't know is he lying. It 75 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: seems like you're you have the number one overall pick 76 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: and they have an area in need. They have potentially 77 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: jadeveon Cloudy and Rappaport. Our NFL media inside Are reported 78 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,119 Speaker 1: on Thursday's edition of Total Access that the consensus among 79 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: all the teams kind of in the mix seems to 80 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: be Clowney is the guy that will go number one. 81 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: But the Texans maybe they're holding out for a deal 82 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: they can't refuse. I don't think any changed since last 83 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: podcast when we said it's a lot harder than you 84 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: think to trade out of number one. Whether they want 85 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: to do it or not. Of course they're open for business. Yeah, 86 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: how could that be a lie? Meet my asking pricing? 87 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: You got you got the number one pick. They could 88 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: be absolutely in love with clowney And this has been 89 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: a game of deception. They've been playing this whole time, 90 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: trying to see what gain would that do? What is 91 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: the point of that as a lie? There's no point? 92 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: What do you mean, like, what is that? What possible 93 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: advantage would they have to smoke screen anyone to thinking 94 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: that they're open for a trade when they're not, and 95 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: they're really they have the one pick. There's nothing better 96 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: have anyone they want. That's their goal is achieved. They 97 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: if they know who they want, right unless someone comes 98 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: out of the wilderness to use Assessler term and pulls 99 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: a dita rights. But wouldn't that make them inherently open 100 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: to pick? But they're not. That's not gonna happen. This 101 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: was laws. No, you're out of order, Greg, leaning hard 102 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: on your high school. Uh, that's excited. What was that 103 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: you were in the Model Congress? I was in Model 104 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: tried to convince when you tried to convince America to 105 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: get rid of the penny that was one of the 106 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: legislative endeavors. I sounds dirty. It sounds like there's not 107 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: a lot of girlfriends attached to something like that. Is 108 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: that fair? Or I didn't struggle for girls in high school, 109 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: but I definitely wasn't finding him at Model Congress, that's 110 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: for sure. Isn't it easier to conceive a team trading 111 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: up more than ever before because you don't have to 112 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: pay in theory someone like Sam Bradford five thousand million 113 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed it's it's there. Yeah, but you still 114 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: have to meet each other's asking prices. I think that's 115 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: more about you have to find common ground on on 116 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: how you value pick. I could see them training. I 117 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: love this quote from Rick Smith. I know if we 118 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: select first, it's a unique opportunity obviously to be the 119 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: first pick. So if we do select there, I know 120 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: who we feel good about there. If we move, then 121 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: obviously variables come into play. That's three ifs two sentences, 122 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: and one is the draft. He says he knows who 123 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: he wants. I believe it, and I believe that they'd 124 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: be open to trading why not um? And then on 125 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: a side note, Ian Rappaport also said Thursday, you know, 126 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: the Falcons met with Clowney twice in the last two weeks, 127 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: so they're a team that obviously people are connecting the 128 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: doubts that they can make a play to get to 129 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: number one. Another team, Rappaport reports, is that the Buffalo Bills, 130 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: who currently sit at number nine, they may also attempt 131 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: to make a move up. UM. Of course, the big 132 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: thing here is there. First of all, the number one 133 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: pick hasn't been traded in ten years now, that was 134 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: the Eli Manning Draft, and number two. The understanding around 135 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: the league is that if if you are going to 136 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: do business with the Texans, you better be ready to 137 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: sell the farm because it's going to be very costly. 138 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: I think one place where you could see some major 139 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: trade activity begin is that that number four and number 140 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: five spot where Cleveland an Ocle sit. Both gms came 141 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: out with some over the top praise for the wide 142 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: receivers Sammy Watkins and the Mike Evans, and there's a 143 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: lot of teams that want one of those guys. Potentially. 144 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: That's where I think someone might jump in, I'm not 145 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: buying the Bills trading up. What do the Bills need 146 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback? They do, They're like a quarterback away from 147 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: being a playoff team. So how does that help to 148 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: move up to number one and not draft a quarterback. Well, 149 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: that's that's if they are off front office feels the 150 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: same way the way you do. I mean, they just 151 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: used the first round pick to take a quarterback, but 152 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't ready to play at all. It's not like 153 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: with E. J. Manual. There one difference maker away from 154 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. But how but Wesley, how about if they 155 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: believe behind closed doors back channels that the Rams potentially 156 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: could pull Manzel out of a hat at number two 157 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: in theory, if you're Buffalo and maybe you do need 158 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: to move up to number one, because where are you 159 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: gonna move up? You've got Jacksonville at number three, Cleveland 160 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: number four in Oakland numbers, saying the Bills might want 161 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel, but I could I wouldn't if you wanted 162 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: to do something totally surprising. That would be Buffalo plugging 163 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: their biggest hole with the most exciting player in football. 164 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: Suddenly you're not moving to Canada I don't like the 165 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: idea of Johnny Manzel being an AFC East for a decade. 166 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: I think they could draft a mid round quarterback, but 167 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: even that would be a pleasant surprise because they just 168 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: seem to be parroting this line that E J. Manuel's 169 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: their guy, and not only that, but they don't want 170 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: to displace that lewis the greatest back. I went back 171 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: and watched Manuel this week, have started to go back, 172 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: and he just wasn't ready to play at all. There 173 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: was very little positive and maybe he improves a lot 174 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: and they like him behind closed doors for his off 175 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: field stuff and all that, but he was so far 176 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: from ready to play. And it's we're talking about a 177 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: quarterback that's had three knee surgeries. That gets forgotten. And also, 178 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: I would be shocked if they used the first round 179 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: pick on a QB because that in the in the NFL, 180 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: going back to back first round picks on a quarterback 181 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: is a huge acknowledgement of organizational failure. And I think 182 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: pride alone could keep them from doing something like that. 183 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: Moving forward, Johnny Manziel has already come up in the podcast. 184 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: I got a feeling is gonna come up a little 185 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: more once we get to our game a little later. Um, 186 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: here's an interesting post, Greg, you wrote it earlier today. 187 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: In a poll of seventeen NFL personnel people conducted with 188 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Senator, eight of them 189 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: chose Johnny Manziel is the top quarterback for it chose 190 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, while two folks, you said, folks, two folks 191 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: shows Teddy Bridgewater and Derek Carr. Even Zach Mettenberger got 192 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: a vote. Greg, I think it's just typical of this 193 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: draft class that Manzela is the closest thing we have 194 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: to a consensus, but he didn't even get of the 195 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: first place votes. He also has twenty exact it is 196 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: is whether they believed Johnny manziel would be a hit 197 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: or a miss, and twelve of them said that he 198 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: would be a miss. And he's just the perfect symbol 199 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: I think of this new type of quarterback that the 200 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: NFL really doesn't know what to do with. Even though 201 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: he's the best quarterback in this draft, half the league 202 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: basically thinks he's going to be a washout. How would 203 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: you like to find out that the team that you 204 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: root for is being operated by a general manager that 205 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: voted Zach Mettenberger is the best quarterback. So home run. 206 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: That would make me feel good at all. From what 207 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: I've read about Zach Mettenberger, he's he's essentially a thirty 208 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: six year Oldrew Bledsoe. That's great. That sounds awful. And 209 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: as the Gold Center knows behind the glass, you never 210 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: trust a Zach that spells it with an age, absolutely true, 211 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: because that would be Zach. Zach is not correct, and 212 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: the patron saint of Zack Zack Morris. Of course, Zach 213 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: attack that that's how you spell the name. Great band, 214 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: Zach attack some nice, nice numbers, as my father would say. 215 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: I like the comparison in the article A couple executives 216 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: made to Michael Vick, and they were basically saying, Manzel 217 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: and Vick, they put him together, and they're saying, was 218 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: it was Vick's career even a hit or a miss? 219 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: How would you classify? Because they think Manzel will have 220 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: some big ups some downs. You know, he made a 221 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: lot of money, He got people excited, want a playoff 222 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: game or two. He went to federal prison, right, Well, 223 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: that's that's a whole another thing. But otherwise there are 224 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: some similarities there. Yeah, I thought that was an interesting question. 225 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: I did not have an answer for whether his career 226 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: as a hit or a miss. I think if you 227 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: took away the dog fighting, which is a big if, 228 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: but we're just talking about play on the field, I'd 229 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: give it a slight hit. When you say that VIC 230 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: had to force old thinking coaches to rethink how the 231 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: positions played. And then that's where I think Manzel is 232 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: probably out of the game for a big chunk of 233 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: teams because of the coaches they have in place to say, 234 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: we don't know what to do with him, or we 235 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: don't want to figure out how what to do with him. 236 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: He's got to fit with the right team, as did Vic. 237 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: But I think it's an interesting comparison. I wrote about 238 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: that this morning that Jake Plumber and Doug Flute both 239 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: kind of worry that once NFL coaches get their hands 240 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: on Manzield will take the fun out of his game. 241 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: They'll turn him into a robot and he won't be 242 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: able to succeed. Like it's a different NFL. There are 243 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: no what Drew Bledsoe is coming out. It's just a 244 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: matter of how athletic your quarterback is. Because they're all 245 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: somewhat athletic, Like a guy like Mike Lennon gets tapped 246 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: as an unathletic guy, and if you watch it, he's 247 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: a lot more athletic than a Brady or man They're 248 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: all athletic, and it's like the NFL is now trying 249 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: to figure out what are we gonna do with these 250 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: guys because Manzel is a lot closer to a Russell 251 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: Wilson or a Kaepernicket in the league's change, it's very 252 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: interesting to watch. Mike Mayock had his final conference call 253 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: with reporters on Thursday afternoon. I found most entertaining part 254 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: of the press conferences when he excused himself to use 255 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: the men's room, said he'd gone thirty seconds, was gone 256 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: probably to fifty seconds. That's quick. That actually did you 257 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: deduce from that? I don't want. I don't I don't 258 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: think I should get into it. That makes me think 259 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: less of him, because if you're going to interrupt a call, 260 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: I feel like that should be for something serious, vanished, 261 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: big deal. I Also the other thing I like, I 262 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: guess exactly the string a newspaper with you. This tells 263 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: you you know how much I really took out of it, 264 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: but um, it's not true. But I also liked when 265 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: he whenever he gets stern with the guy screening the calls, 266 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: the guy's a charge of and he's like next caller, 267 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: and you could tell moderator, Yeah, moderator to pick up 268 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: the pace. Uh So anyway, Max said, that's West. If 269 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: West gets to the point where he's doing national conference calls, 270 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: that's so West. What I could see very good people skills. 271 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: I would want to treat any people. That's just what 272 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: I say, like I want to say to go for 273 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: And her sister didn't treat like the waitress well, and 274 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: it was like grounds were breaking up. Well yeah, and 275 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: and you're right, you're you're good in and people to 276 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: people scenarios. But you also refused to go shopping for 277 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: fear of being around too many humans. You know, the 278 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: kind of creeps that hang out in shopping all moms. 279 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: You don't want to be there anyway. Mike Mike Mayock 280 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: said that six wide receivers in his mind could go 281 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: in the first round. This is the group, and it's 282 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: a very good group. Clemson's Sammy Watkins, Texas A and 283 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: M's Mike evans Os are consensus the top two wide 284 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: receivers here, and then we have l s us Odell Beckham, 285 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: Oregon States, Brendon Cooks, UH, Florida State's Kelvin Benjamin and 286 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: usc s Mark's Lee. And he also said he expected 287 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: five cornerbacks to come off the board, and that's eleven 288 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: of thirty two draft picks using my math, that is 289 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: what eleven twenty two, that's one third just about is 290 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: that's accurate? Right? He also said five tackles. I think 291 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: so that half the first round tackles cornerbacks and UH, 292 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: wide receivers. There you go, well right off the bat, 293 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: better than last year when it was joke. And that 294 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: was so you could say the Jets, the Eagles, the Chiefs, 295 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: the Panthers, the forty Niners all primary targets for wide 296 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: receivers potentially. And that's there's more he did say. Also, 297 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: a New York reporter asked what the Jets would do. 298 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: He predicted Beckham would go to the Jets, Uh, they 299 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: do need a wide receiver. Moving forward, Mark quarterbacks quarterback talk, 300 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. This is always fun. You know. Vince Young 301 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: and Tyler Thigpen both worked out with the team this week, 302 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: and we were kind of led to believe as a 303 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,239 Speaker 1: general public that they were going to pick one of them, 304 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: and it turned out on Thursday that they signed both 305 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: Mark so Vince Young and Tyler Thigpen are both now 306 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: on the Cleveland Browns. What does it mean? I like 307 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Vince Young in terms of let's just see what happens here, 308 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: but they're both quarterbacks that h didn't even take an 309 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: NFL snap last year. So I think if they're if 310 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: they're in the big plans, you have some concerns. I 311 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: tweeted yesterday and I sincerely believe this if it plays 312 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: out where they don't do quarterback, don't lean hard on 313 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback in this draft, and it's a Vince Young, 314 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: Tyler Thigpenn, Brian Hoyer battle as a starting quarterback. Browns fans, 315 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: you are free to quit. You're free to quit the NFL, 316 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: Get out of town, get out of Dodge, because you're 317 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: staring at another three and and it's that that wouldn't 318 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: even be top twenty worst scenarios that that fan base 319 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: has been from the last ten years. Even quit by now, 320 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: that's not gonna put you over the top. That's more 321 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: promising than quarterback lineup. But the reason I say that 322 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: is because and I've been pounding the table, ding on 323 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: the table, vomiting on the table, saying go get Johnny 324 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: Football and revitalize your franchise. If not only do you 325 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: pass on quarterbacks in this draft, then you go with 326 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: this poop poo platter. It's just like get. But let's 327 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: in your world where that's a bad thing for Let's 328 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: just go back just one year where you can pick 329 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: between Brandon Weedon and Jason Campbell. At the time, you 330 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: had hopes for Brandon weed And going into last year 331 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: because he was okay as a rookie, and you and 332 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: we like for the guy that put you. Of course, 333 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: of course, because I said this was a four thousand 334 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: yard quarterbacks cream lantern in the preseason. I mean, he 335 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: looked out to get those numbers over the course of 336 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: his career. Maybe he won't, but no, it is Canada. 337 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: It's a totally different scenario because, yeah, he was coming 338 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: off a rookie season where there were some ups and 339 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: but this is a situation. These are journeymen. Mark. I'm 340 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: just gonna put a sandwich online, but I'd be happy too. 341 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: It's just not excited. There's no way they don't take 342 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback. So I don't think we have to worry 343 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: too much about this. It does make me think, though, 344 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: these are two guys that ran the pistol formation. Kyle 345 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: Sanahan's done that, looking for a mobile quarterback, so what 346 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: are they looking at? Maybe they're not, I think so. 347 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: I think it's entry. I went back and watched what 348 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: Shanahan did when Kirk Cousins started late in the year 349 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: because I thought, maybe we have no mobile quarterback and 350 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: he's still the coordinator, still on every third down, play 351 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: the pistol over and over and over and over, first 352 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: and second never but it was like he's he is 353 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: married to running offense out of that formation. I don't 354 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: think it's going away. Um moving forward, you know, this 355 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: is kind of interesting with the draft coming up, justin Blackman. 356 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: I remember in two thousand and twelve that was the 357 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: Blackman Draft, right. Um. There was a video guy that 358 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: we worked with at the NFL that that was a draft, 359 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: the first draft that I was involved with, and I 360 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: was in New York. And what they do they take 361 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: around the rookies that they take around the draft guys 362 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: around the city and the week leading up to the draft, 363 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: and they, you know, take him to the New York 364 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: Stock Exchange. They put him on the roof of Radio City. 365 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: They do a bunch of photo ops and things of 366 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: that nature. And I remember this particular video editor telling 367 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: me that there was one person that stood out, Justin Blackman, 368 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: was was miserable during the entire process and he just 369 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: seen it. He was very sullen and not friendly and 370 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: very rude. And I remember thinking, Oh, that could be trouble. 371 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: Now we moved to the present time. Justin Blackman, this 372 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: is you are in Naraqi Jr. Wow. Yeah, Justin Blackman 373 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: unlikely to play in two thousand fourteen. The other reason 374 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: it just triggered my memory because we're talking about the 375 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: draft a lot. But uh, you know, Blackman's had issues 376 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: with uh substance abuse. Jaguars general manager David Caldwell told 377 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: reporters on Friday that regarding Blackman, it's not something we're 378 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: counting on getting back the wide receiver who has been 379 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: suspended and definitely without pay for violating the NFL policy 380 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: and program for substances of abuse. So kind of it's 381 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: a sad story with the guy. He's so talented. He 382 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: showed itever he's been on the field, but he has 383 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: these issues that he's dealing with and it probably won't 384 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: let him get on the field. If only they had 385 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: spoken to UH private investigator Dan Hansas could have cleared 386 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: up this character concerns. He saw it. It all come 387 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: in a mile away. You don't want to a mood. 388 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: I hate to say it was not a bad mood. 389 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: It was beyond that. Apparently that this could be another 390 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: career for you. Dan Blackman in his first two games 391 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: LA could back last year when he was suspended the 392 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: other time. Nineteen catches three hundred and twenty six yards 393 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: in his first two games. I would love to see 394 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: a bizarre team like the Seahawks come out of nowhere 395 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: and somehow convince a regime that didn't drap black Man 396 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: and probably views him as a headache at this point. 397 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: Give him a late round six, seven round combination pick. 398 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: Get black Man on your roster, and see if he's 399 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: ever brought back in the league. That's some creativity. I 400 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: like he is a He started last year, showed flash 401 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: as I thought top to making the list leap, and 402 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: he only played a few games, not often that you 403 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: hear about suspending players getting traded, but you can do that. 404 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: The Cowboys spoke to the Tennessee Titans about trading for 405 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: Adam pac Man Jones back in two thousand and eight. 406 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: And so if you're and you're still toying around with 407 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: Sydney Rice, why not take a just a chance on this? Well, 408 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: it's it's I think it goes beyond just taking a chance. 409 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: Not like a guy with a bad knee or something. 410 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: This is a guy with a potential serious drug problem 411 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: that you're gonna get onto your into your hands instead 412 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: of letting someone else have Also a contract with zero 413 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: guaranteed money. Jacksonville can get out of it number one 414 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: without costing them anything, but so can the next team. 415 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: You know what the problem with the scenario is they 416 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: Seahawks draft Super Bowl m vps in the seventh room. 417 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: M hmm. Listen, last year, the guy that won the 418 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl form didn't play to the Super Bowl. Maybe 419 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: you just wait and see what happens if you dropped 420 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: Justin Blackman into the NFC West Race in week ten. Alright, Mike, 421 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: I like that. It's amazing by the way that Cowboys 422 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: gave up The Cowboys gave up a fourth round pick 423 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: for Adam Jones even though he was suspended. That is 424 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: bizarre to think about. It sounds like a Jerry Jones movie. Finally, Mark, 425 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: I just want to throw this one in here because 426 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: first of all, you wrote it, and also it's kind 427 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: of spoke. It was almost like your spirit animal in 428 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: a way. Clipboard Jesus. Charlie Whitehurst stayed in a log 429 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: cabin at Mini camp Um. This just seems like something 430 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: you would do, so I'll throw it to you on that. 431 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: I like it. He basically it struck me as odd 432 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: and bizarre because he did not want to pay the 433 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: rate the going rate at holiday inn, so he decided. 434 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: And I looked on a map, how far away from 435 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: Nashville is this like White Sands or whatever camp ground 436 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: that he went to, And it's some part of Google 437 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Maps where it just ascends into green forest land. So 438 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: he must have driven up a hill far away to 439 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: get well. I wanted to find out did he travel 440 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: three miles and night? He wasn't that far away. But honestly, 441 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: he just signed a two year, four million dollar contract. 442 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: Is this guy really pinching pennies? Some question I brought 443 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: up downstairs. I thought, if we were doing a game 444 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: where we had to pick the equivalent quarterback for each 445 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: one of the around the League writers, I think Mark 446 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: Sessler would be Charlie Whitehurst. Mark was offended by the 447 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: well I don't like here, you know, I thought about 448 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: it again. I don't like the career implications because it 449 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: suggests I have no talent. But at the same time 450 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: from your boss, like wait a minute, what but but 451 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: he's getting paid well to do he has a matt 452 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: to do nothing and make continue to stay in his 453 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: industry and make more money with this last contract then 454 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: we ever thought he would, and more than Russell Russell Wilson. 455 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: And then to take it back to the real world, 456 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: he'll make more money in this two year deal than 457 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: you'll probably see your entire life. So it's not that bad. 458 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: I was saying of his human spirit, like he's a 459 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: man of the woods, and I bet he likes Kara 460 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: Wak a lot. You know. That's more what I was 461 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: getting at. Do you think Charlie white Hurst has ever 462 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: even heard of Jack Carrowin? Yeah, I think he's into it. 463 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: I think he serves while reading Jack Carrowin. I think 464 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: it's all in play alright, reading a book on a 465 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: third board. That's what makes him the clipboard. Jesus. All right, 466 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: let's get into it. It's the game that all the 467 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: kids love. It's go get my lunch. That last part 468 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: supposed to be. At this point, it's almost like you're 469 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: just ignoring all my suggest Yeah, you're right about that. 470 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: In fact, for the rest of this podcast, I will 471 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: not say it's just I will just say it the 472 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: way it is. So this is the game in case 473 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: you are new to the game, so we've only really 474 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: played it once. Formally, go get my lunch. There's a 475 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: game of skill and valor in which each of us 476 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: will throw out and it's gonna be draft related only, 477 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, so this every everything that's thrown out here 478 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: will be predictions or kind of uh, some type of 479 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: going out on a limb on some level about something 480 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: that will happen in the draft. And then each of 481 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: the remaining men in the room will have the opportunity 482 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: to say, I agree that's that will happen, or disagree, 483 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: And if there is a disagreement, you could put a 484 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: sandwich on the line. The man who throws out the 485 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: initial proposition can choose how many sandwiches to put on 486 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: the line, So you could maybe just take one person 487 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: sandwich bet. Or if everyone's disagreeing with you, you could say, 488 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 1: you know, forget you. Guys will take all your bets, 489 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: So you could win up to three sandwiches on a 490 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: single proposition. You can also lose three sandwiches. So that 491 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: is the game. But for the record, if you don't 492 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: take all the sandwiches that people are coming at you, 493 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: we are questioning your manhood. It's a it's a game 494 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: and strategy, not it's it's a game if only the 495 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: wise survive, So you need to pick pick wisely. So 496 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: one relevant point here. It doesn't have to be just sandwiches. 497 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: It's go get my lunch. Mark not a sandwich fan. 498 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: If he wins, we have to get whatever he wants 499 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: for lunch. But considering Mark doesn't like food, the options 500 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: are going to be limited. We have to go out 501 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: and get truffle fries, high octane alive us. Alright, so 502 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: why don't we Uh, I'll get it going, all right? 503 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: How about that first one? Gentlemen, the Titans, Rams, and Cardinals, 504 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: we'll all take quarterbacks by the end of round three. 505 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: That's interesting. And wildly specific. I like m all of them. 506 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: By the end of round three, I'll take you up 507 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: on that, all right, because it's all of them. I think, Dan, 508 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: you picked well here, and I agree with you. All right, 509 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: you will not take me up. I like that. This 510 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: is the most thought provoking sandwich bet or lunch bet. 511 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: I think in the history of this game, a long, 512 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: storied history. I really like it. I think maybe you 513 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: should have put a lot more thought into Arthur Jones. Yeah, 514 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: first ever question, the first the first ever go get 515 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: my lunch question about Arthur Jones. West made out with 516 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: a couple of sandwiches. Off, I'm gonna take I'm gonna 517 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: take the bat. You will take it. Yeah, you can see. 518 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: Greg is easy to lure into things because you can't 519 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: help himself. It's so almost a man with an addiction 520 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: of this game. That's why it's perfect. All right. So 521 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: I got I got Wes and Greg sandwiches. I just 522 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: need some action, desperately. I just need to feel sandwich 523 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: bet junkie. Okay, we wrote about this last week. We've 524 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: talked about it. The Bucks are going to draft a quarterback, 525 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: which leaves Mike Glennon really available by Sunday Night, Mike 526 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: Glennon is on a team other than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 527 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: I'll take you on that. That is bold. I'll take 528 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: that in a second. You kidn it? Wow, are you 529 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: gonna take all three of us? Well? Why I thought we? 530 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: I had to. I have manhood, so I will see 531 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: you guys don't play the game with smarts. Well, speaking 532 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: of that, Marcus introduced a new level of strategy to 533 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: this game. This was supposed to be his question. He 534 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: knew that I was interested in the question, so he 535 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: flipped it to me, knowing that he would take the 536 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: opposite side. Well, I would contest. Here's the thing, though, 537 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: how you really win is if you go for some 538 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: high stakes, high reward. West took all our bets last 539 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: time on Arthur Jones, and so he ended up being 540 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: the big winner. That's how you win. This is how 541 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: you get a big score. But it's a little let's 542 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: let's stay factual. Though I did not take Westers, I 543 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: did not take Arthur j Let's not be too factual. 544 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: Raft a quarterback in the fourth round. Mike Glenn's out 545 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: of there. I agree, but you said by Sunday night. Yes, 546 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: that's the but I think he's gone. I don't think it. 547 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: Usually when these trades happen, they happening. That's true. If 548 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: it's got to happen, I think it will happen this weekend. 549 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: So that's why we're betting. Yeah, the Sunday following. We 550 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: should stop using the word betting. It's a bad word 551 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: around here. That's why it's called go get my lunch. 552 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: It's just an errand um Gold Center. Do you have 553 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: any idea who Richard hatches? No idea anybody else in 554 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: the room. He is the original winner of Survival and 555 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: Mark spirit Animal is the survivors. That is when it 556 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: when I sort of checked out of reality television. But 557 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: I do know that when you checked out, that's like 558 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: when it started. No the real world? Was the world 559 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: a decade? Or by the way, when everyone keep tracking 560 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: your own sandwich, I'm writing all that. Wait, so wait, 561 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: you took all of our Let's have one secretary, all right, 562 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, the Detroit Lions will pick at number ten 563 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: as planned. I feel like the air just the m'sall. 564 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: That's not that's not bold. That's like coming back from 565 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: shoulder surgery and throwing an eighty four mile put our 566 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: fastball and your first rehab start. I agree with you. Yeah, 567 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: No one thinks they'll trade. No, I mean there's a chance, 568 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: but I would if I if a sandwich on the line, 569 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to be it's a game. He's gunshy because 570 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: he just spent a lot of money. This is about 571 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: I've got I've got other questions into my arms. Do 572 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: you wanna you wanna throw out another one right now? 573 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: Or do you want to hold and think about it? 574 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: It's okay to throw out one. I mean, let me 575 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: double down. No, I don't like how that one. Let's 576 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: try this again. Teddy Bridgewater will fall out of the 577 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: first round. I'll take you up on that one. You 578 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: think he will be picked in the first I think 579 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: he will be picked in the first round. Probably about 580 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: your ground. I think he will fall out of the 581 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: first Geno Smith like, I won't take that bed either. 582 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: That sandwich idea. I was thinking of that as one 583 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: of my options. So now I gotta come up with 584 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: something else. But yeah, no, I don't think so we should. 585 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: Mike Mayock thinks he's going to fall out of the 586 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: first round, and I'm pretty sure. Disagreeing with Mike Mayock 587 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: is grounds for firing at the NFL. Sticking with you, 588 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: you you're a little bit higher than on Bridgewater than something. 589 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't get the whole fall thing, like, I just 590 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: don't understand how everybody loved his game film and then 591 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: because of a bad pro day, everybody hates it. So 592 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: Chris has him going in the first round. Yes, all right, 593 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: what if we came up with an alternate alternate word 594 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: for bet blog. I don't like that word large cartoon exasperation. 595 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: Greg ros Your all right, this one has changed. We 596 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: were having a conversation downstairs. Daniel Jeremiah was involved, and 597 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: it totally changed what I was even thinking with this one. 598 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go. Sammy Watkins will be drafted number 599 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: three by the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'll take the Jaguars for 600 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: Watkins and you can all have the other thirty one teams. 601 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: M I'll take it. I'll take that too. Go get 602 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: me some sandwiches next week because I like that one. Justin, 603 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: I gave you the field. This is what I'm going 604 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: against type, But I'm not even convinced Jacksonville picks at 605 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: number three. Mm Justin Blackman, is you know They're not 606 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 1: even counting on them, and that doesn't even matter. They 607 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: don't have any wide receivers, they don't have any quarterbacks, 608 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: they don't have any offense. So take the best offensive 609 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: prospects that can get some points on the board. They 610 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: can get a great wide receiver in the second round. Yeah, 611 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm in on that too. I will take all three 612 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: of years, and this is gonna be the key part 613 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: of me winning an avalanche of sandwiches. Next, you are 614 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: far too excited about the gambling aspect of the Sandwich Valanche. 615 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: Sandwich Valanch, You're almost suspiciously excited about this game. I 616 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: don't even know what insider information on this. No, you 617 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: guys were there, we were all talking. I'm saying beyond 618 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: it just makes a lot of sense. Are you have 619 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: you become close fast friends with David Caldwell over the 620 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: last few months, all setting up to this moment that 621 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: would be quite nefarious, Velian even all. I'll throw this 622 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: one out here. I don't know if I'll get any 623 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: nibbles on it, but I'll throw one out. I got 624 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: Jadavean Clowney as the first pick in the draft. Does 625 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: anybody want to take a sandwich bet that that's not true. 626 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: That's a tough one because you're basically, this is all 627 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: a fifty fifty thought, And is there a fifty percent 628 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: chance that he's not the pick because they could trade out. 629 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: We just talked about it. They could take Khalil mack Well, 630 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: they could trade out, and then Clowny could still go 631 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: number one. It's not the Texans that Clowney is the 632 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: number one pick by whomever. I'm not gonna take. I'm 633 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: not gonna take with you on that. Yeah, I'm not 634 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: taking no nibbles. Okay, that's fine one, all right, then 635 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: I'll throw this one. I gotta I gotta feeling. I 636 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: got a feeling that I will get something on this. 637 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys will select Johnny Manzel with their first 638 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: pick in the two thousand four NFL Draft. Take that action. 639 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: I know what I know, Dad's I gotta take all 640 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: three is he's not a true believer. I will take 641 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: all three because he's going to the Cowboys. He's the Sandwiches, 642 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: He's the quarterback of the Cowboys of the future. We 643 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: are already celebrating Chris marketing. This is great. Now you 644 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about onions, you want to talk about 645 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: believing in yourself and not carrying what anybody else said. 646 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: You want to you want to talk about just just 647 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: being filled with guts, that's it. You want to talk 648 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: about onions. I'd like some onions on the great sandwich. 649 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna get me. Oh, this is gonna be so sweet. 650 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: You know. I thought thinking of sweet. I thought the 651 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: top of the world was when I accurately predicted a 652 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl blowout. This will make that look like poppy cock. 653 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna give you two rookie quarterbacks and 654 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a boat where they both land. 655 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: All right, this is gonna cost me some money. I 656 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: have a feeling Blake Boardles is going to be joined 657 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: with Norv Turner in Minnesota, and Derek Carr is going 658 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: to go to the Cleveland Browns, and if both of 659 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: those things don't happen, we get lunch. All right, I'm 660 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: taking that one right. Well, now I feel better about 661 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: the man that Actually that might be even lower percentage. 662 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: That's that's bold. I like it might be the most bold. 663 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: So exact landing spots. Yeah, okay, so Mark says car 664 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: I'm going to uh and let her know that we 665 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: need to take some money on his account. Now we're 666 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: playing the game. Yeah, Greg and West you are you 667 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: are on the clock now because Mark and I just 668 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: let it all out. Therewhere Sammy Watkins to the Jacks 669 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: was my move. I mean, I have higher that we 670 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: come up with something on the fly. Three wide receivers 671 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 1: will come off the board in the first fifteen picks. Hmm, 672 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: So that I believe that will happen. I agree with you. Oh, 673 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: I think I'll take a sandwich on that. Who's the 674 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: third receiver? Not that you have, but just dealers, okay, 675 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: or any of the wide receivers to this. So by 676 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 1: oh you said pick fifteen. Interesting by the Steelers pick, 677 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Hold on here, you've got the jets 678 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: in there, or I'll take you on that, all right? 679 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: Just lured in another one. Alright. So Weskelen has three 680 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: receivers in the first fifteen. Oh, this is exciting. Mark 681 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: decided not to take. I'm not touching that. I see traded. 682 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what now, I'm not looking at the 683 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: teams that are there. I'm looking at the teams I'm 684 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna trade up. I like Max said, six wide receivers 685 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: in the first round, and it could happen though that 686 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's that early run in the very beginning 687 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: with Watkins and Evans, but then I see the rest 688 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 1: of it, maybe starting with maybe of Jets and steel Steelers. 689 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: Jets are an eighteen. I feel like the fourth wide 690 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: receiver off the board will go to the Jets. They'll 691 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: Beckham is the hottest name in the draft right now. 692 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't feel good about this one already. 693 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: I just lured in a couple. It's been fun to 694 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: watch the Mark playing this game. He started out thinking 695 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: about that receipt from yesterday and he just bare really 696 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: had this milk toast little fun. And then he felt like, oh, 697 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: this is no good. I gotta the old Mark's gotta 698 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: come back and the most outrageous one humanly possible. My god, 699 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: what have I done. I'm not going to be involved 700 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: in any bets anymore. We have time, but we have 701 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: time for one more and then we'll get into the 702 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: Mansill one more Manzell Blark. Okay, I need to have 703 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: a second one. It's it's similar to to Chris's and 704 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 1: uh I said this one before, So I'm gonna stick 705 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: with it. Only two quarterbacks are drafted in the first round, 706 00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: exactly two two qbs and first round there will be 707 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: no trading up for Derek Carr. There will be no 708 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: surprise Zach Mettenburger a J mccarena quarterbacks and not one, 709 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: not one, not not four, two quarterbacks. I'm gonna take 710 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: you up on that because I think you're New England 711 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: Patriots are going to cause you a problem and take 712 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: a quarterback. If you really had guts you I think 713 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: we should. I'm saying more, if we had another, If 714 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: we had we should have another subset of this game 715 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: in which you put on the line your old cessler 716 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: that Tom Brady ends up being on the Browns, and 717 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: we don't get you lunch, we get you a sandwich shop. 718 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 1: If that's true, we have to buy you a subway 719 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: franchise or something like that. I would not want to 720 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: have to deal with that, So no, thanks. Back to 721 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: back to your question. I think you nailed it, Greg. 722 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: I think uh, I think two is the number. I 723 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: think Man's that will go. And I think, you know, 724 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: probably Bordles or someone like that will go a little later, 725 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: and I I can't I can't get on Borday. Mark's 726 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: taking it. Yeah, and it's basically Bortles in Man's out. 727 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: But I won't even bother to specify it. Two quarterbacks 728 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: in the first round, are you This one is the 729 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: hardest one yet. Good if you believe in Bridgewater the 730 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: way you say you do. But I wouldn't be shot 731 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: if Bortles fell all the way out in car Car. 732 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't expect to go in the first round anyway. 733 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna need your decision. Take you up 734 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: on this, just because that's the point of the game. 735 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: That's not a smart way to play the game. That's 736 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: how you lose it. That's true. We said of the 737 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: Mariana Rivera of this game, and it's like a guy, 738 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: it's like a baseball player after the opening day talking 739 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: about he's the home run leader and sand Man if 740 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: they last parts. But if there's a listener out there 741 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: that can keep track of our all time standings in 742 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 1: go get my lunch, that would be great. You can 743 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: help us in email it to me, contact is on Twitter. 744 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: That'd be a big help. Zach, will you want to 745 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: jump in now? Golden is not involved in the draft 746 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: in anyway. That's out the window. Now, m here's a 747 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: two parter you ready, despite not being listed on the 748 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: official NFL dot com three team needs of the New 749 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: York Giants. The New York Giants take a tight end 750 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: in the first round and trade down to do so. 751 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: That's very specifics. That's why I'm only taking one. The 752 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: trading down thing is where you really went wrong there. 753 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: I think Eric Ebron is going to the Giant. The 754 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: tight end thing was bold, beyond that was cessily. I 755 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: see them taking Ebron, but I don't see them taking 756 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 1: Ebron at twelve. I'll take I'll take that. I'll take 757 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: I'll take that. I will take that. They'll trade down 758 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: for it. You're only should take that bit out I 759 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, alright, so it's there, but I get 760 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: to choose who I want to take out of it. 761 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: You can choose between these three gentlemen. Okay, yeah, we 762 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: can't take too much. You don't make Greg he gave 763 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 1: me a book today, Okay, basically buying Greg lunch here. 764 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: That seems a little nefarious. You had some type of 765 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: outside it's you would both be baid that sanction Wordy 766 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: brought in a book that I thought would be interested 767 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: for Zach out of the kindness, had nothing to do 768 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: with the game, and you're taking that against me. All right, 769 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: we'll have the board will look into this. Alright, we're 770 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: running out of time, so let's just hit finally, Johnny Manzel, Gentlemen, 771 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: and and gold standard. You could also get on this one. 772 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,720 Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna pick a team where Manzel will land land 773 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: and if someone hits on it, that's sandwich is from everybody. 774 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: So that is four sandwiches to the victor. So if 775 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: you got the Cowboys right, you would get it right twice. 776 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: I would get by the way, I would make seven sandwiches. 777 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: If Johnny Manzel goes to the Cowboys, why do you 778 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: get double credit for it? It really it's just the 779 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: same thing. So now my death bet is something that's 780 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,479 Speaker 1: working in my favorite can't have it both ways. Double down. 781 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm doubling down on Johnny Manzel. So there's 782 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 1: an order here. Greg picks Team A. No one else 783 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: can pick that team. Um, I guess I'm picking the 784 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: team I'm picking. Could I guess you could split it? Well, 785 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: let's see what happens. In the spirit of double doubling down, 786 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: you get the KFC double down. In the event that 787 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 1: you win, you and then I die three days later 788 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: heart failure. But okay, alright, so, um, West, you are 789 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: the defending champion of the game, so you get Johnny 790 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,399 Speaker 1: Football is going to the Rams. M Okay, all right, 791 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: that would be exciting. I wouldn't expect that to be 792 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: the number one pick. I like that. Um. I probably 793 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: actually was about to go there myself, but I'm going 794 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: to switch up and say so that I can get 795 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: potentially two quarterback bets. Wrong here Johnny Football to Cleveland. Yea, 796 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: how does that work? Don't have to all tie together. 797 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: The strategy is faulty there, but it's okay, you're not. 798 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: The strategy makes sense. The integrity has completely gotten out 799 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: of game. Is not about integrity. If I'm gonna take 800 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: this podcast is not integrity. I'm gonna go Raiders. There 801 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: next on the board, basically number five and Gold centered. 802 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: I was going Raiders. Where do I go? Now? This 803 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: is right? Could you could go Raiders? I guess you 804 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: guys can split the bounty. Okay, so let's go. And 805 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: so I took the Cowboys, West took the Rams, Mark 806 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,280 Speaker 1: took the Browns, and Gold Standard and the Boss both 807 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: went with the Raiders. Nobody goes Jaguars, Texans, or Vikings. 808 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: I don't think he gets too Vikings at number eight 809 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: unless they're going to move up. My initial thing on 810 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: Tammy Watkins was gonna be Manzel to the Jacks, but 811 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: I changed. I don't know, I lost. I changed my 812 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: mind at the very last second. Know, like when in 813 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: Hollywood when a screenplay gets wicked hot on Friday Night 814 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: and it circulates around. That's Manzel in the in the 815 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: forty eight hours leading up to this draft. He is 816 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: everyone says, not going to fallow the top ten. He 817 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: ain't going past the top five. I think you can 818 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: take this podcast back to January where you and I 819 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: told everyone in America that he will go in the 820 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: first three picks of the draft. Right. I think you 821 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: can take it and put it in the Library of Congress, 822 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: leave it for people fifty years from now. Listen ever 823 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: to this podcast. That's that's very exciting to know and 824 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: a little all over the world. Really um all right, 825 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,760 Speaker 1: So that's it. The all the all the bets, wagers, blarks, 826 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: they're all in and Greg has them written down. Is it? 827 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: Is it organized? Greg can we trust you. I'm beginning 828 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: to think choosing me as the secretary. Will have the 829 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: audio take a picture of that and put it on 830 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: the side, because I'll get it. I'll get it done 831 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: into email form at some point. This looks wretched, Greg, 832 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 1: this does not look organized at all. There's some over 833 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,439 Speaker 1: here as well. That's funny, alright, So yeah, we will 834 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: obviously this will all be settled by next weekend the podcast. 835 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,439 Speaker 1: Mark and I head to New York this weekend, so 836 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: Greg and Wes will hold it down from the studio. 837 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: Mark and I will be on the line, will be 838 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: will be calling in. Will be very exciting, and we'll 839 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: talk all about the draft and anything else that we want. 840 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: You know what we'll do. We'll we'll put all these 841 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: sandwich propositions up on the around the league site so 842 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,919 Speaker 1: everyone can see it and and route on from home. 843 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: It's a game for all of America, all right. So 844 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: thank you for listening. We will be back on Monday. 845 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: This is Dan Hansens signing off for the Mailman, the Sizzler, 846 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: the Boss and the gold Standard behind the glass to 847 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: kill Monday, Mrs cork Bob boy, ain't my crad